EP94 - Animal Agents Unleashed: Conspiracy or Crap?

Natty and guest Stacey dive into bizarre theories of animals being used in espionage, discussing everything from dolphins equipped with surveillance gear to sharks allegedly guided into attacks. They explore intriguing historical examples and modern-day conspiracies, including spy birds, GPS-tracked sharks, and even mysterious instances of cows as undercover agents. The episode also touches on the technological tactics used to control these animal spies and debates their plausibility.

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(01:13):
Today is Miss Stacy from Early on Wednesdays.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
I am one half of the Gorgeous Schools. We've got
some exclusive interviews. We do have an exclusive series called
No More Stolen Sisters discussing missing and murdered Black women
and girls. The second part of the series we are
talking about cases of our indigenous sisters.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
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(02:09):
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Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, definitely listen. I always love listening to you guys.
You guys are phenomenal. I do want to point out
they do have Early on Wednesday, which is on social media,
but not just that. They each have an individual one,
which is great. So you have Stacy who is witch
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(02:43):
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go over this the end too, but it really does
make a big difference. For those of you who are
not watching the video, go check out the Patreon feed.
All the video is going to be on there. It
looks like we're gonna have quite a bit of activity
tonight as usual, because when the witches get together, it happens.
But my case is going freaking batshit. We've already had
the cap ball go off, my spear box is going off.

(03:05):
It's just there's a lot of activity today. In this
day and age, we all contain some curiosity and concern
about who is watching, listening to, and monitoring us through technology.
Whether it is true or not, there are too many
coincidences to not at least contemplate the concerning concept. This week,
we're going to talk about a slightly more specific sector
of the elusive act of espionage. So before we get

(03:27):
into the exact thing, we are going to go ahead
and talk a little bit about espionage in general, because
there's a lot to espionage. People usually think it's, oh,
just spycraft, but there's a lot into it. So I
wanted to just graze over that before we can get
into the actual deep dive, because I wanted to make
sure we were all on the same page. So espionage

(03:50):
is defined as quote, the practice of spying or using spies,
typically by governments, to obtain political and military information. We
have all heard the tantalizing trope that tempts our minds
into considering cryptic considerations of our glorious but sometimes ghastly governments.
If we can all agree on that, well, yeah, in

(04:14):
China as far back as fourth or fifth century BC. Yeah, whatever,
you'll get over at These are the writings that revolved
around knowing your own military and those of your enemy
to be successful in battle. I laugh because everybody's like, oh,
it's now this dude. I was raised on BC, so sorry,
but that's what it is. I'm not always kosher, but
it happens now. The work mentioned above is called The

(04:38):
Art of War, which most of you have probably at
least heard of. Most of the time, it's iffy, but
here are some recon rolls that constitute the classes of espionage.
According to that work of art, we have secret information agent,
which is the person who provides copies of the enemy secrets.
So that's one. Then you have I love this name,

(05:00):
the penetration agent. Oh all right, sounds like a good time.
And this is the one who actually gained go ahead,
go ahead, it goes. Shiver I do.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
That was part of recall. But did just hearing you
say it, yeah, it makes it just made me giggle up, like, oh,
penetration agent.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, I it goes. I'm aware. I was almost like
the penetration agent. But anyway, so this is awesome. Yeah,
well we'll leave it in. We'll leave it in. This
is I want it okay, So apparently they want it
to So this is the agent who gains access to
the enemy commander. So this is like your inside man, h.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Your honey pot if you will.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Oh hey yeah, my honeypop penetrated.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Now I started to say you you and Lavender would
be perfect honey pots.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
This is I can't say. All right, So so this
one is one that on this podcast, and if you
are just in this genre in general, you are fully
aware of this person in this process and is the
disinformation agent, and this is the one that feeds the
enemy a mix of true and false information to create

(06:16):
confusion and or mislead them. For anybody who does anything
extraterrestrial related, you are gonna have a lot of disinformation
agents involved. Like I just did the trilogy for the
nineteen sixty six Michigan UFO sightings, and there was a

(06:37):
lot going on there. One of my listeners reached out
to me and told me that they had an opportunity
to interview mister Van Horns. So for anybody who's listened
to the episodes, I don't know what happened there, but
I was like, oh my gosh, it would be so cool,
and he's well here, let me reach my feelers out
and see if he's interested in being on your show
and getting interviewed. So that would be freaking phenomenal because

(06:58):
I was given in mad props the whole time.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
That would be cool. That would be super super cool.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Sorry, I'm having some serious coughing issues, which is funny
because my box keeps asking me if I'm sick as
I'm hacking up along. But those are the areas as
far as positions go and what they mean. Then you
have counterintelligence, double agents, and psychological warfare. Warfare are also

(07:30):
mentioned in the work as well. If you guys have
an opportunity, look into that because it has a lot
of really good information as to how why. It just
gives a lot of good background so that you have
an understanding going into if you are doing research or
listening to these things, it'll give you a really good
idea of what's happening, why it's happening in some terminology.
That's good, So go definitely again, Art of War, check

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it out. God, I really am having a hard time. Sorry,
I'm gonna butcher some of these names. Sorry, not sorry,
I am a Midwesterner. It is what it is.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Hey, words are hard, So yes, words are hard.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Definitely so ancient Greek ruler oh heah, it agrees with us.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Well, and especially from the celestial plane or the energy plane.
We're able to form our language because we're here in
this reality. But the spirit's coming through for the spirit box,
they've got to break a lot of different fields to
get that message out.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, and I try to again, there's a dictionary with
base words, hi, and there's a dictionary with base words,
but I try to add certain ones in because again,
if there's only so many words in this dictionary, they
have to get close. So sometimes you have to use
a little bit of Okay, if it's a ship, is

(08:58):
it a boat? Is it a spaceship? Is it? Like?
What is it? Because they only have certain words that
they can use, so I try to add some more
contemporary words in or names, so that way they can
have a little bit more of a ballpark to try
to reach out. But I try to switch them up
every now and then too. If I start hearing the
same word over and over, I try to put more

(09:20):
specifics in. But anyway, so that's where that's at. Ancient
Greek ruler his deisis diosus his das something like that
would locate a local messenger, shave the SAP's head, scribe

(09:41):
some secrets on a scalp, wait for the lock to
be long enough to mask the message, and send him
out to be shaved once more to relay the message
beneath Ingenius. For back in the day, this is what
I started to say.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Can you imagine, for just for a minute, you have
these deep military secrets, You have these deep defensive or
offensive or you've got this treasure trove on your.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Head, oh much. It reminds me of that rush hour
where you have they're looking for the list of the Triad,
like all the members of the Triad or whatever, and
they're like, we're looking for this list, and they get
a hold of this woman and they're like pushing her
to get it, and she's like, I am the list
and she takes her wig off and they're all written

(10:33):
on the back of her head. That's what it reminded
me of.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
That's okay. And then for your horror fans like I am,
think of Clive Barker's Books of Blood okay, because the
lead character of that story and movie, all of the
sins of these spirits that surrounded him are written on
his skin.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Ah okay, it goes I love you, oh of you too. Anyway,
So the patients, it would take because if you have
to shave it, write the messages and wait for the
hair to grow back enough to hide the message, it
can't be an immediate need, you know what I mean,
because it's going to take time.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Well, not only that, I mean think about the pain
that has to be associated with that, because it's not
like they could take a sharpie and write this information
on their head. This stuff has to be carved.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
And so my thing is is. But they did have
calligraphy and that kind of thing where ink was actually involved.
So I feel like daughter, Oh, hello, I think I
know who we're talking to now, Nita? Is that you?

(11:53):
Oh that seemed like a yeah on there, but it's
been going crazy anyway. Can you do it again for me?
If that's Nita? Thank you? Hi mom, her mom. I'm
a thirty Hey mom, that's so crazy. I don't know
what thirty means, but there's thirty.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
But my higher thirty two years.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Younger. Carl goes thirty higher younger. Well, you're higher above.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Me, it's said Carl in thirty.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah, I said thirty higher younger Carl positively. Yes, apparently
that's something. Oh shit, okay, we just had a look
on your face. Sorry, your face just changed, like your
whole energy just shifted. Oh it's going yep, and it understand.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
When I was in college, myself and one of my
very close friends, he was gay, but he was a Mormon.
Oh and so to pass in front of his family,
I married him and he committed suicide, oh before his

(13:22):
thirtieth birthday.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Bedroom, Yes, are you hitting me.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
No, no, okay, he shot himself in his garage, but
he left all of the notes and everything in the bedroom.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Oh shit, okay, well that just got real deep, real fast. Well, hi, Carl,
I'm sorry that you had to do that.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
I'm sorry you did too, because you would have been
a hell of a man and things would have changed,
just as dying.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
It just got really heavy in here.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
And I don't know if you noticed it, but I've
seen it, mate. I hope it comes on the playback
you have in the corner. It's on. It'll be your
right hand side. Yep, right there, you have a shadow doing.
It's not a normal shadow. It's not a normal shadow.
It comes in and out, but it's the shape of

(14:35):
a it's the shape of a body.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
That is insane. Oh wow, wow, Well this just got
really sad, and I gotta shift back to this pionage.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
In all honesty, this was like his deal. This was
his thing.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Really loved yea.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
He loved movies about war. He loved stuff about government
and conspiracies. Was there a nick that came through? Nicholas
was his boyfriend, his long term partner.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Oh oh okay, well we'll try to lift our spirits
back up with espionage. All right, so we went with sorry,
the Greek guy who would shave the head, write the message,
and then send him off to be shaved and get
the message. Because then my thing is, so then did
he come back with his hair or did they shave

(15:32):
him again before he left him?

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Okay, we were talking about the calligraphy and the ink,
so I could see that, yes, that it would.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Be because it wouldn't be as painful.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Well, it wouldn't be as painful, but how potent. Well
you couldn't really chat to it or carve it, because
then you'd have to wait for their skul to heal
before he could put a new message on.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Hello. Oh my goes hello and the light comes on Hello.
Yah's see. That's what I was wondering too, because that
they're doing messages back and forth or do they just
shave somebody else's head and send them all their way
on the other guy to fade.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, heal or whatever.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Maybe they each have like their own messengers because issues
with them going back and forth.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Very true. But now here's my question. My thing though,
and I'm I'm sure it's just going to be rhetorical,
but these guys either have to be house servants or
they needed or they were in indentured slaves, because I
can't see these military men paying the kind of money

(16:42):
it would take for these people, these messengers to risk
their life.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
But what if they were trade like traders, not like
trade tor but like a trade dur where they would
travel from place to place and trade whatever goods they had,
and they were just using that person and to get
in and out, because that'd be somebody that could easily
gain access to multiple locations and that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Well, they would have access to the people who have
access to royalty because you're trading goods. That's m That
would be like the best cover.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, because no one's gonna think it.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
No, not for the little little old lady that comes
and brings her flour and sugar and makes her pastries,
makes her bread.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Oh I was thinking the wine guy. But yeah, these
two because back in the day the religions and stuff,
they always had sacramental wine.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, absolutely, and you had to have the guy who
made the wine.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, So we got some options there. So this is
the one that I think is so crazy. There was
Elizabeth van lew and she smuggled messages in hollowed out eggs.
She took the thing, crack the egg at the bottom,
drain the eggshell, rolled up messages, and stuck it back

(18:06):
into the egg shells, and she would deliver them to
soldiers that were captured by confederates. She would bring food
to these soldiers and feed them. I actually heard about
this on a History Channel documentary as well. And she
would do that. So she would basically break the bottom
of the egg, let it drain, put the messages in,

(18:27):
and she would feed these people. And they would just
pick up the egg because it just looked like regular eggs,
and so they'd pick them up and unroll the message
from the inside.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
See, no, I know exactly what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
That's one thing I thought was super cool. But we
have all had an idea of how these things work
and the multitude of methods that were used. However, is
this ballad The one that I really wanted to discuss
today was the conspiracy that countries conducted crazy missions using
none other than crafty covert critters. Yes, so I love it.

(19:09):
I love it because I was like, oh, she's gonna
get a kick out of this one. Oh, I have
a multitude of examples here. Oh man, yeah, that's right.
So we have all admired an absolutely astonishing animal kingdom
coming to the forefront as spies. The first example is

(19:33):
free spirited superspies. The bee eater bird, which is a
cool name.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
So in May, and.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
This is fairly recent too, so in May of twenty twelve,
a b eater bird bit the dust within the boundaries
of gauzean Tep, Turkey, ironic, and when unsuspecting citizens happened
upon it, they noticed it sporting a strap later identified
as an Israeli band is what they called it. So

(20:05):
whisper whispers, poop, there you go. I have a slur
occasionally now apparently, he so whispers rapidly whipped through the
community that the strap contained a microchip and the bird
was in fact an aviary agent.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
That sounds like foul play to me.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Ah, but I.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Love it.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
And the head of their version of the Department of
Agriculture named Akif Asimpei, Okay, I can say, thanks, get
props for that one. I can't see the country, but hey,
that was pretty good. Did a full ass autopsy on
the bird and he stated that quote the nose of
the bird is very different and much lighter than others,

(20:52):
and then added it can be used for audio and video.
It was then, as I assume, in theoretical voice, he
gave it extra evidence, saying, quote, in the case of Israel,
they do.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
So they put a little like cabra in their beak.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
So that's what I'm trying to figure out. Is it like?
So he does the autopsic thing in the bird, He
noticed that the beak is there, but it the strap
was on. Well, I guess it didn't say where the
strap was. It just said there. Did it say where
it was? Hold on, let me go back up your oath.
Something's going crazy back there now. I just so it
just says it was sporting. It was sporting a strap.

(21:34):
It doesn't say where it was. Now, if the strap
was around part of its beak, and then they're saying
it's hollowed out and it could do sound or video
or whatever, that would make sense. But I don't see
them strapping the thing's beak shut because then it would die.
This thing's going nuts now, hello, So I was thinking
the strap would be like around its foot, but it

(21:55):
didn't specify, so who knows. But I'm with you. Yeah,
hollowed out and they could do audio and stuff, But
how helpful would that be if there was no device?
Unless they're saying the bird itself was a device, but
he didn't say that it was mechanical when he dissected it.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
No, that wouldn't make any sense because a mechanical bird
is going to get a lot of attention because can
you imagine the animatronics to make that bird. It's going
to be expensive. The auditory in visual equipment is going
to be hell of expensive because they would have to
be tiny for the beat.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yep. I don't know. That's just something I saw in there,
And it was ironic to me that he specifically went to,
oh Israel does like the whole concept? Is Israel's using
all these animals for covert operations. It has been surrounding
Israel for a long time. These conspiracies are my favorite ones.
Later on, but so there's that one, and it says

(22:58):
that they even brought in counter terrorism unit to pooh
the idea and reassure the population that these features are
common in migratory foul, which is funny that you said
foul to people were so worked up and convinced that
they brought in counter terrorism to make a statement to
chill out the masses.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Well, okay, I just think it's funny. Used to pooh
the idea that I thought about. Maybe they fed the
microchip to the bird edge. Shit.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
So there's a guy that I'm going to cover. Actually,
you know what, I might cover him soon. What was
his name, the guy that would eat anything? His name
was not Noah.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
It said Noah sang it.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah, you know Noah too.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
I have a.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Look for me. So maybe they're going to give you signs, Stacy.
I don't know how soon, but just be prepared.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
I'm like, I don't doubt it because whenever my mom
she's not here.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Oh but it said sign look for me, and so
maybe she's like, hey, look for me, and she left.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
It could be anytime my mom wants wants my attention
or wants me to know she's with me, she will
send me some type of owl. And it doesn't mean
a visitor a live owl. Yeah yeah, And it doesn't
always mean a live owl. Sometimes it's a picture. Sometimes
it's like on my safety best for work, there's an

(24:31):
owl on the zipper.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Oh heck, yeah, apparently you just need to look for
a sign of a visitor. So I guess you're gonna
be getting a visitor sometime soon.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
I hope they bring food because I don't want to cook.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
I can feel that. So again, this was twenty twelve,
and then again in twenty thirteen, an avan adversary was
accused of espionage. Has Bola claimed that they ended up
in possession of an Isra eagle spy. They added that
a multitude of these winged warriors had been witnessed soaring

(25:08):
over the landscape with the goal of gathering intel via
GPS chips. This particular eagle was said to be a
part of a particular project revolving around Raptors and Tel Aviv.
It never mentioned the bird was breathing when they bought
it into custody, so I don't know if the bird
was dead, if it came down, if they just caught it.
But there was an eagle that supposedly was part of

(25:29):
this project where they were flying eagles consistently through the
area and getting intel via GPS chips, which would make
sense if they're doing land recon, that would make a
lot of sense.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Well, and also too, I was going to say that's
definitely not in the United States because eagles are protected here,
but that doesn't mean they're protected everywhere.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, this is saying that they were flying in Tel Aviv.
I don't know who was in charge that I know of. Now,
get this, when they got into custody, I don't know
if it was live or dead, but they began firing
on the supposed feathery agent, like after finding it. So
they see the flying agent and they just start gunning

(26:16):
at it. Can you imagine, like you don't even know
what's going on, You're just shooting at this bird.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
And if that sucker's got C four in his stomach,
then you've just caused a major Well, if you're.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Shooting it high in the sky, maybe it wouldn't. It
is enraged. Something does not like the idea that with
it's shooting birds.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
I don't like the idea either, to be honest, but
I mean, it doesn't make any sense to me. You
put a message in a bird, so you shoot it down.
What if you destroy the message?

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Oh no, they're saying, so somebody put the chip on it.
The bird flies over, say Tel Aviv, and they're shooting
at it in Tel Aviv. I don't want you to
get this information back, so they're shooting them down.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Oh okay, but's still do yes.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
I just want to point out the irony of we
had how many weather balloons just float on over us
and no one did anything about it. But they're gunning
down these birds, like.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Oh exactly, and it was just what was it? Would
they say it was? It wasn't weather balloons this time
of something else.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
I thought they were weather balloons? Is it?

Speaker 2 (27:25):
That was what they were saying they were.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was weather weather balloons. They
were just doing weather patterns and stuff like that, and it.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Was hush, yeah, but yet it's got Japanese writing on it.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah. We're not going to get into that, but I
just wanted to point that out. We'll just graze over
that one now. I will say. After investigation, it was
determined that the raptor on the recon mission was simply
being tracked for research and under the watch of Golden
Heights Gamla Nature Reserve. Oops. However, the butchered bird was

(28:05):
brought back to Israel on September fifth of twenty seventeen.
So in twenty thirteen, they see this bird, they gun
it down and they think that it's giving out because
it's got this chip or whatever on it. They do
this still to this day. They'll find migratory birds and
they will put trackers on them so they can track
the migration patterns to figure out why are they going

(28:27):
one way or the other, what are their patterns, what's happening?
Are things changing? Why are they changing? And they are
doing that to this day. But I think it's interesting
that in twenty thirteen they gun one down, find out
that it was just a research bird, and it doesn't
get brought back to Israel until twenty seventeen, four years.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
That's what I was saying, What the hell took them
four years? And you can't tell me this bird was still.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
What researchable exactly, So I don't know what was going
on with it, but at least it was returned.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
They do that with sharks too, a great sharks, They
track them.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
They do, whales, sharks, dolphins, penguins like, they do a
whole bunch of animals like that. And they're even getting
now to where they're tracking butterflies.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
As cool as an idea is, that is, it's very dangerous.
Wish I was gonna say it's how delicate that butterfly is,
Like you could take out a whole species of butterflies
if you're not. Oh, I can barely.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
I don't think they're tagging the quantity. I think they're
doing a lot fewer of them, like maybe picking a
few out of the whole whatever flock of butterfly. I
don't know what you call a flock of butterflies.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
But I yeah, I don't even know.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
But I feel like they don't do as many. So
maybe it's like if something happens and there's a certain
way that they do it. I think I don't know
the processes, but I've just heard that they do it. Well.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
I'm just gonna put this out there and then we
will move on from it. Guys, stop wasting your money
and time on butterflies, and let's find a cure for cancer.
Let's find a way to keep children from suffering. Let's
find a way to prevent more suicides. Yes, and now

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I'll get off my soapbox and we'll continue with our animals.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
As other birds accused of aiding the enemy were griffins, vultures, pelicans,
and kestrels. I don't know what kestrel is. I think
it's more like a herring or maybe I don't know,
but those are all birds that have been accused.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Okay, the pelican I could see, because you can. You
can soa summon into the side of that sucker's lip
and you'd never find it.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Exactly. All I could think of are the birds for
finding Nemo.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Mine.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Let's take a into some other conspiracies containing curious, counterintelligent
trained creatures. Well, many of us are afraid of what
lurks beneath the water and fear we should have brought
a bigger boat. These theories will tap into underwater terrain
and tempt you to travel closer to find out for yourself.
Let's start with the main monster of the marines, the

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scariest submarine Steelmaster Sharks.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Oh, and just to throw it out there, because it
is my absolute favorite movie and has been for my
whole life. Joss turns fifty this year. Really, yes, it does.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
This is as shirt. They agree. So we're on sharks
and back in twenty ten, there was an uptick in
shark attacks near South Senai resort in Oh my gosh,
charm El Shekh, Egypt. So in Egypt, a German tourist

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became human shark bait. Wah I literally wrote me, I
wrote it in my notes.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
You beat me to it because I started when you
said shark bait I was waiting for so I could say, yeah, funny.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
I literally typed it into my note.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
That's awesome. So now we've had to NEOs.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Nemos on it today. So these things grabbed the attention
of the media, and a captain named Mustafa Small was
interviewed on Egypt Today TV show. He was brought in
and introduced as a famous diver. He made the accusation
that a GPS tracker had been transdermally attached to one

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of the sharks and was serving as a guiding device,
so saying due to the chaos and misconstrued credentials of
the guest, rumors ravaged through the country that Israel was
in fact seeking these mammoth sized marine monsters on unsuspected
swimmers to seasoned semen. So they're taking these sharks and
they've got think of a heat seeking missile, but it's shark.

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Say that they're controlling these sharks, saying, you like guiding it,
go attack these divers, go attack, these swimmers, go attack
these military institutions or I guess boats, ships, whatever and
that kind of thing. What the hell.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Well, and truthfully, and if I'm telling you guys something
you already know about sharks is something that's very interesting
to me is by truthfully, they could actually do this
guiding of sharks because all they would have to do
is give them an obsession. Like sharks, like they say, blood,

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blood in the water. All they would have to do
is take the censor. Because the shark's brain is simple,
it's very is not complex at all. It's literally it
gains an obsession eat. Yeah, the obsession is what it
wants to eat is swims and makes little sharks. So

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all they would have to do is change whatever the
obsession is. Instead of it wanting a seal, they can
make it want anything. They could attract it to the
metallica of a warship, and this sucker could sink a ship.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Even the governor Mohammad Abdul Fadli Shusha Shaosha that's close enough,
started off in a conference saying, quote, what is being
said about the Mussad throwing the deadly shark in the
sea to hit tourism in Egypt is not out of
the question, but it needs time to confirm end quote.

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So he's straight up saying, hey, it's possible, but we
can't confirm it until we get more info.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Well, yeah, because I mean, if you've only got one
or two sharks that show up in the area, you're
not going to be able to say, oh, this was
a directed attack because it's only one or two. But
now if you start getting a fleet of sharks that
show up, but not only and truthfully, a great white
wouldn't be the best. A bull shark, yes, a bull

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shark would be the best, but.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
It doesn't say which kind of shark. It just a shark.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
It just a shark.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Yep, because they can go brackish, salt and fresh water. Technically,
as far as I understand, bull sharks can.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Bull sharks can survive in a freaking toilet if they
could if they were small enough.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Yep. And the biggest argument that the underwater assailants were
in fact marine militants is in fact that they were
claimed to not be native to the area, so how
else would they get there. So they were picking sharks
that were not native to the areas that were attacked,
and the attacks were increasing in numbers.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
But that doesn't make sense to me. And maybe it's
because it's I'm not a military high up or I'm
not a terrorist, but that doesn't make sense to me,
because what would gain the most attention If you're in
an area where.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Let's say they do use bull sharks, because bull sharks
are versatile, you can they're probably not assuming that they're
gonna get caught. They're not gonna get caught, and they're
not gonna catch them in a net or carpooned or whatever.
So I can see them. What's the most durable and
versatile one tagging it where you can't see it, and

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they might be like, well, we have this rogue shark
that came out of nowhere, and why are they all
of a sudden migrating here or whatever?

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Okay, A bull shark that would gain attention, but not
the same would be like, okay, well it's a understandable
that it's gone from fresh water to salt. That's okay
or whatever. But if you have an area like, say, okay,
tiger sharks like warm water, they're not gonna survive somewhere

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that it's icy and they're gonna get They're gonna get
a lot of attention for even coming close to an
area like that.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Now, I don't know it's since they're not native to
the area, but I'm wondering if they're using something similar,
because again, if you're not thinking the shark is gonna
get caught and it's just a bit, most people aren't
going to look into what type of bie, what's the
size of the bike. They're just gonna be like, shit,
this mofo got bit by a shark. It's clearly bit
by a shark, and then end of story until there's

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not may be too many.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Well I started to say, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Actually, so I can see them being like, who cares.
We just want something that's gonna be durable that we
can use, cause it's just gonna be a shark bite sharp.
It's not like it's attacking an entire boat where the
whole by mark's gonna be there, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, and also too, I mean, if it's like you said,
a rogue shark and it's one, maybe two people, that's
But again, if they show up as a fleet, then.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Yeah, I'm guessing it's probably not a fleet. It just
says it's an uptick in attacks, so they might send
in one or two rogue sharks. And I've heard, I
think I've heard some instances where say there's like a
hurricane or there's something going on, and they really do
have someone they're like, wait a minute, why is this
shark here. They don't normally come this direction, they don't
get that close to the people, and they do that.

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I've heard the term rogue shark before.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Oh so yeah, rogue sharks. That's several, that's not unknown.
But you said a hurricane, I thought a shark Nato.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Rlado.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
They sent one or two in and they're like, hey,
this ship works, and then next thing you know, there
the movie came out.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
They put the move movie out. So that way, that's
the disinformation, because you get truth and false and you're like, oh,
it's such a joke. There's no way that would happen.
And not only that, but the Israel Foreign Ministry rebutted
with a simple maybe they watched too many Shark, too
many Jaw movies, like literally the responsible. Maybe they watched

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too much Jaws. That was their response.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
There it is right there.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
No scientiarument, yeah, not a scientific argument, not anything like that.
It was just maybe they watched too many shark movies.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Okay, here, just I'm gonna throw this conspiracy in there
because that's why it's fun. Okay, what how do you
get a tsunami? You get a tsunami by plates, the plates.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Shifting an earthquake, right like an earthquake.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah, you get an earthquake, or you get if the
plates shift hard enough, it will create a tsunami. What
is one of the best ways to take an area
out is a tsunami. There's movies like Bait. There's movies
like There's so many where they talk about sharks that

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go into areas because of a tsunami. You could have
all of these sharks that tracked them and then all
of a sudden you set off a bomb or whatever
underneath you ship those plates there you go. I'm so
glad you hit me up. And I was on vacation
because I'm so glad I'm part of this.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yeah, this is freaking I've.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Done all day.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
I thought it was perfect. So another accused animal swims
in the sea, but it's not necessarily of the fishy variety,
And this one is none other than everyone's favorite aquatic attraction,
the dolphin. Oh yeah, they are. In contrary to popular belief,
these mammalian geniuses are known as a little hasty in

(40:58):
the wild. So I've noticed that they do, like they'll
pack up, pack up, like they're getting a suitcase. No,
Like they get together into these pods and they can
cause some issues. Yeh yeah, like they can attack big prey.
Sometimes they do get a little hasty, but not very
often do you. Usually it's like killer whales and stuff

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like that are now starting to attack people in boats
and stuff like that. But they do get a little hasty.
They can attack pretty much anything as long as they're
in their pod. But initial conspiracy theories making these malicious
mammals out to be monsters began hitting heavy in August
nineteenth of twenty fifteen, but rumors have been going around
for about twenty years before this. So is a oh

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my gosh, is a din Oh my god. Brigades were
that's horrible. I'm so sorry. Hamas declared they caught it
off and strapped with a camera as well as unspecified
quote unquote equipment after the malicious mammal maimed and murdered
one of their members. So this is I'm guessing some
kind of military brigade and this dolphin they caught it

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after it was screwing this dude up. I mean, it
messed him up, and they ended up catching it, and
they said they had all this equipment on it, and
they're assuming that's why it was doing what it was doing,
like it was programmed to attack these people.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Okay, but real quick, before we move on to dolphins.
It's something else just occurred to me. Austin Powers.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Yes, sharks, sharks the head and lasers on their freaking heads.
Oh my god, I love those movies. I put that together.
I should have, but I did not. Epic fail on
my end.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
How often do dolphins really attack people?

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Though? I don't know. I've heard some cases, but not
a lot.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Well, yeah, they're like the the big prayer bullies and
they're like bully fighters.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yeah. I just washed the documentary and I'm watching a
lot of documentaries apparently lately that a woman like went
in the water and these dolphins started circling her. So
a lot of times they'll find a body of fish
and they will basically cyclone these small fish and they

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surround them and get them to go in a certain
pattern and it pushes the fish up to the top
of the water.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
And they eat them birds.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Those fish. I mean, it's like a packfest. All kinds
of species come together and eat it when the dolphins
do this. So these dolphins started circling this woman and
they couldn't figure out what was going on. And when
they were circling her, she got to her boat because
they were like pushing her towards the boat. And when
she got in, there was a shark nearby, so it
almost seemed like these dolphins were trying to push her

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towards this boat. And a whale did the same thing
with another woman.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
There have been dolphins that have swam down deep where
you've had divers that went too far. It's where they've
gone down and they've gotten divers and they've either given
them their dorsal fin or they've given them like their tail,
and they'll bring them up to the surface, but bring
them up at a pace where they don't end up
with them. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Dolphins are amazing. So they found, like I said, they
found this dolphin that's attacking this brigade member, and Iran's
Fars News agency did what all media outlets do and
they embellished the situation. And stated that quote is really
made robot dolphin equipped with espionage equipment including video recording cameras.
End quote. Well done on the alliteration. It sounds like

(44:42):
something I wrote. I did not.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
I was like wow.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
And a photo started circulating of him holding up what
seemed to look like a nose harness with a cylinder
style device attached to it. And you can check out
the twz link in my description then you'll find the video.
But what the absolute hell is going on here? There
was also a Twitter post with a description of quote

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breaking a legend. Israeli Navy trained dolphin killed hamas frogman
and the picture is fabulous. Is as I should probably
clarify that these frogmen are no relation to the Loveland variety,
but are divers and scuba gear. Then they go in
and out of places, Okay.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
But a harness on their nose like that doesn't make
sense to me because that's how that's where all their
sensory is.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Yeah, So what I'm picturing is is almost it's almost
like a strap that goes over. It looks like a
strap that goes over, almost like a muzzle, but not
closed at the end. It's like it slips over its
head and straps down so that the sensor is like
on the muzzle but not affecting its movement.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Oh okay, well yeah, because all their brain power, that's
that's what there's going to be is right there, oh man.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
And as we are all aware and have been talking about,
we're bestowed with a beautifully intelligent brain. They can be
trained to locate, spot mark and occasionally recover relics of
the deep. Unarmed underwater agents can complete reconmissions and scout
for explosives or ram into divers, causing disorientation. Some speculate

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that if the equipment with a weapon such as a blade,
could stab unsuspecting scuba divers like little scuba steves down there,
and a less aggressive but also effective technique, these creatures
can stick strobe lights to a subaquatic traveler so they
can be spotted and dealt with before they are a threat.
Tagger it and they stick them like bump into them

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and hear this flasher like a strobe onto these divers
that they can't get off, and then no matter where
they go, they're going to be able to be seen.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
But they have an already natural like inborn natural sense
to protect humans and animals and things in the sea.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
There would have.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
To be some kind of There's been attacks scramble.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
There's been attacks in like places like SeaWorld or zoos,
or there's been documented attacks on people in these confined spaces.
I don't know why they're happy, but these trained helpers
or divers or whatever that are participating in these events,
I guess to entertain people have been attacked and in

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smart yep by dolphins, like some of them are like
fatal or nearly fatal, like getting rammed and held under
and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
So I know orcas do that because orcas are like
the line of the sea world.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Yeah. And my thing is because they are so intelligent
they can be trained. If you don't have penguins as
much doing tricks at a zoo or sea world or
anything like that. They're picking whales, they're picking dolphins to
do these jump through the hoop and their little stand
up and flippy thing, and they can do these commands.

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So what's to say they don't just have a dolphin
and they just train it to sniff out bombs, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
I think that's absolutely possible. Yeah, there's no doubt and.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
If you can train a dog to do that, you
have attack dogs. What if you have an attack dolphin.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Well, and that's true too. I mean think about it.
You scrambled the signals in their brain. And they do
the same thing with human soldiers. Why couldn't they do
it with an aquatic soldier exactly where they brainwash them
into believing what they're doing is for the greater good.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Yeah, or the people are bad.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Or people are bad, and so you have to pretend
or they're prey. Oh pray if they're.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Like when they say divers, A lot of times they
think that sharks attack the divers because if you look
at a diver from a shark's perspective, it looks an
awful lot like a seal.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Which is their favorite food because exactly fatty. They're fatty,
and they're warm. They taste good. Now they'll meat them up.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yep, Dolphins, beluga whales, and sea lions are the most
common covert critters under the sea, rumored or proven to
be used on military missions. So it's not now. The
attack dolphin is a theory, but they have proven that
they use dolphins for things underwater. Go get this underwater,
Identify this underwater, assist underwater, that kind of thing. Now

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we're going to touch base on a few more. We're
just gonna touch base. We're not gonna get too far
deep in these. But believe it or not, lizards are
sometimes said to be sourced by the Jews to spy
on nuclear status of varying countries because the theory he is,
their scaly skin is attracting atomic waves, so I guess

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they'll absorb. Maybe if they go into these places and
they come out, then you could absorb. Use the Geiger
counter to see how potent?

Speaker 2 (50:20):
About how big is this damn lizard?

Speaker 1 (50:22):
I don't know. Doesn't say it's like a super skime.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
I was like, this is like a freaking.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Or a chameleon blends in. That's a really ambission though.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
I was gonna say that you gotta have a lot
of time for that. You might, Yeah, you may have
a couple of generations of scientists dealing with that ship.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Yeah. I just thought that was funny. But they do
say that even rats were cut loose in cities to
try to drive out the inhabitants, and there were even
that yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
That's a pig. Because I just started to say, look
at the bubonic plague.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Yep. Interesting, I think that was witchcraft, but we're not
gonna get into that now. There were also whispers that
Israel had used cattles with camera and covert listening devices
to spy on farmers, although I'm not sure what kind
of government secrets these farmers could be hiding. But they

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use cows on your cameras on cows, supposedly, that's the rumor.
Wouldn't that be a little.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
I was just gonna say, where the hell would you
put that?

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Because you all, what if it's one of those little
tiny fl like you could stick a camera to something,
you see, just stick the thing and what they stick
it on their little ear tag. Oh I'm not gonna pay.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
At that, the whole ear tag. There's your device right there,
the whole tag.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Yeah, the chip and the tag and the camera and
plant it into it. I don't know what you would
use a cow camera for. Let's go to the cattle
can guys. Let's see if they're sucking in the barn.
It's like country porn.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Oh god, but think about it though, But think about it.
Who is going to be the least who's going to
really sit there and.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
Think how much fertilizer. Do they have.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
A methane is you methane is flammable.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Yeah, don't think use it for bombs.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
You can light a cow fart and blow up a barn.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Yeah, shootout sparks out of the camera.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
How many of us didn't do that in high school? Hey,
let me see if I can lie my fart.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
I have never lit a fart. I do a lot
of weird country stuff, but I have never lit a fart.
Because if you want to, never that hole is open
and you can you literally can burn your anus. This
is just going downhill fast, but you can literally burn
your anis. So do not light a fart. Guys. Disclaimer,
do not do it. No either.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Yeah, girls, don't do this because you've got two openings.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Oh yeah, but you really do. So. He's got to
open for air to come out, and it moves very fast,
so you can send your booty hole. No one wants
the burnt stars.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Oh man, do you think.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Animals are really being used in the art of spycraft?

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Okay, my heart wants to say no, because I am
such an animal lover. I mean should I've got seven
dogs and now we have two cats. We rescue animals.
But at the same time this is also there's also

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entities that will take a human and make them into well,
I mean, look at you have the suicide bombers, these people.
Why wouldn't weaponize the one thing that people are going
to fall immediately in love with because they are the least.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
Or that there's the healthiest. Birds are everywhere. You're not
going to see a shark coming, They're not aside from
the camera, cows, they're all things that people see them
all the time. They wouldn't even think of it, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Well, and what's going to be more unassuming for a
spie than a farmer?

Speaker 1 (54:56):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (54:56):
I just I've just out here milking my cats and
sticking messages in a bottle, sticking poison into you.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
You don't know, yep.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
And if we've if we are talking about it, that
means somebody else thought about it and it tried it
years and years before.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
All right, So I have two more questions. Question one,
which of these options do you find the least plausible?

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Heay, mine's got to be it's unless that's a giant
lizard that and just.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
I mean, we know.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Aviation. We know there's been several.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
I think if the scales are there, I don't know,
I don't know, I don't I don't know, And how
many lizards died so that they can figure out which
ones scales hold the hold what like, they got to
have some kind of testing kind of Oh my gosh,
I keep bringing up Projects Sunshine. Maybe I just need
to cover that at some point. But when they would

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test flesh and its reaction to nuclear amounts of different
types and blah blah blah to figure out the damage
that would be done, they'd have to do the same
thing with lizards. If you look at a lot of
testing sites, and these places where these machines are or
I guess these weapons are being held are generally dry, desert, deserted,

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desolate places. And who's gonna think a lizard's just gonna
be a lizard. No one's gonna think about it. And
it's not attaching anything to it, it's just the scales
absorbing it. How do you track the lizard? You send
Bob in and you get Jerry out, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
But you've got to look at it from a realistic
point of view too. How much funding is truly going
to be available for you to keep killing freaking lizards
to figure out which one scales.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
There's one I forgot about that out was at a
ghost covered and I about died. So they trained, they
got this cat. They spent all this money and time
and effort training this cat. They let the cat loose,
and the cat like walked into traffic and got hit
by a car, or like just wandered off and just
like wasn't doing anything they wanted it to do.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Can you imagine, I guesse cats don't do what you
want them to do. They don't care.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
I just thought it was funny that they were like
training this cat. They're like, Okay, this cat's gonna we're
gonna train it to go to this certain person or
the certain type of persons they trained. They let it lose.
It it just like wanders off.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Fuck y'all because that cat was probably at the end
of the day. Fuck you, you're I'm gonna go push a
glass off of a counter. I don't care about what
you should have trained.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
A dog, Yep, I don't kill a dog. Now we've
already so we just touched base on which one we
find least plausible. So the lizard's out but which one
do you find to be the most plausible? All freaking few.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
They're so smart, they're people pleasers.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
I mean, I feel dolphins or birds?

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Oh yeah, because we've had because no one ever looks up. Well,
then think about look at the holding pigeons they use
in World War Two.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Yep, I mean they were using pigeon break decades. Oh
but yeah, I'm with dolphins. Well, dolphins are birds. Birds
are more versatile than dolphins. They can go morea.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Well, and I started to saying they would be more
cost efficient too.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Well, the only thing the dolphins are obviously only aquatic,
but at the same time they would do they have
more options of things that they can do. A bird
is a bird. You might know their migratory patterns, but
you don't know that it's gonna fly over a certain
space or land in a certain area or whatever. Now,

(59:10):
I guess if they're flying around, you're gonna get a
lot of good aerial view.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Can you imagine, though, attaching a tiny camera to like
the breast or the underbelly of a bird and there
you go, Right there, You've got a perfect spy camera.
If the little bastard flies where you wanting.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
To fly exactly. But I guess if you're studying the
migratory patterns, you're gonna know exactly where these mofos are going,
and if it crosses through, you're gonna be like cash money.
It's like the drone cameras before drones were a thing.
It's the same concept and that they were in my head.

(59:50):
They're using them. They had to have been using it,
because as soon as that drone came out, what was
the first thing they did, Let's put a camera on
and go look stuff? Becauseho's going to think about a drone?
Oh yeah, yeah, So there was a pretty inquisite there.
I feel like to make it automatically a.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Thing, I agree. I agree, Sorry, period, I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
But I just like I said, there's a lot of
them make a lot of sense. Now, as far as
homing a shark into a certain area to attack a
certain type of or group of people, I feel like
that's a I feel like that one is embellished. There's
probably some truth to it, maybe not that they're honing it,

(01:00:35):
but if the shark say it's an aggressive species, or
that particular shark is just aggressive in general, I can
see them letting it loose and It's fine, just run rampant,
kill as many people as you can, all of that.
But I don't think that they're steering it into a
group of specific people or anything like that. I feel
like it is more they are using its primal instincts.

(01:00:57):
I guess primal is not the verb I'm looking for,
but they're using it natural intint No, that's right, Okay, okay,
I feel like that that's not the word I was
looking for. We'll go with that. But they're using its
instincts to get it to respond a certain way, not
that they are training it to respond a certain way.
So I feel like that one's a little bit both

(01:01:18):
ends going.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Unless you have a high navy or an aquatic military presence,
that's not going to really help you because you can't
fly over anything.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. That's what I was
thinking with the sharks and the dolphins. I mean, if
you're wanting things to be aggressively attacked, and you want
it to be more natural and unsuspicious, you would go
with a shark. Yes, a dolphin could have essentially kill
a person or people and all that, but it's going

(01:02:03):
to be so out of character that it's going to
draw more attention. You can't just write it off as oh,
the shark's a shark. It's wait a minute, this dolphin's
attacking people. Why are we having dolphin attacks? This is
not right. Something's up, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
They make cameras. You can put a camera into a
contact lens mhm. Or you can make an artificial eye
that is a whole computer. Why can't you do that
on a dolphin.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
That is a good point, because then if you want
to get real sci fi, you put these fake eyeballs
or what are these lenses these whatever. Maybe it's just
a mask, like a glass thing. It's like glasses, but
you can make it see different things. So if it
sees it's ai, it sees a person, but it makes
it look like something else. Or they hear a certain

(01:03:01):
voice or a certain sound like maybe scuba equipment translates
into danger or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
You know what I mean, the sonar that they have
in their noses.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
Mm hmm. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
I really just now I've got on this whole idea
of you have an intelligence agent that is sending it
signals and making it do what it wants it to do.
That's plausible.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Yeah, I'm just thinking because they can interpret it into anything, friend, foe, target,
whatever you're wanting it to do, which is why sometimes
it goes and gets stuff. Sometimes it just wanders around.
It's just gick. Maybe they just let it have free range.
Like I said, it's like a sleep rage. It's just
this dolphin that's just doing its thing. They're getting information,

(01:03:51):
they're getting all this stuff, and then it's nope, I
need you to do this now. Boom code goes in
and it switches gears and it does whatever it needs
it to do, and then you can turn it back
off and it's just a regular float and dolphin.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
I agree thousand percent.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
That's what we have on espionage and animals and all
of that stuff. So if you guys see this comment
on it, let us know which one you think is plausible,
which one you think is bogus. But I guess we'll
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