Let's Talk About the Marvel Snap Road Map

We discuss Phastos, The Road Map, Card Aquisition and Emotes!

Episode Transcript

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Good evening and welcome to another episodeof Cubed the Marvel Snap Podcast. Welcome
everybody tonight, and you know,as always, I have to everybody's left
bock choi aka Dakota. Can youget some clappies from you? Dakota,
I know you know how to dothat. Oh hang out. Yeah,

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and to anybody's right, we gotdark helmet aka Donald, so we get
a quack. So how are youguys doing tonight? I'm doing good,
you know, glad to be herewith you guys. Hopefully you know I
don't crap out on my computer again. Yeah, so hopefully you know,

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we do have a lot to talkabout tonight. Hopefully we don't get to
that point where you do crap out. But if you do, you know,
everybody know ahead of time. Youknow, we just roll with the
technical difficulties. So yeah, actually, let's get started, because, like
I said, we do have quitea few things that we want to discuss,
each and each one of us.I know, Don's gonna be kind

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of going into this blind, butwe'll start with something easy, something you
know we always do. Well.We'll talk about Fastos. Fastos is the
new card this week. I didn'tget him. How about you guys?

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Nope, I didn't get him yet, only got two keys, and I
just, you know, it's justhard because it's like, there's a lot
of cool things this card looks likeit can do. But I'm like,
am I ever gonna play this style? I don't think so. So I'm
like, I kind of will holdoff with the Deadpool season coming up?
How about you? Don Man?Honestly, I am disappointed in both of

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you right now. You know,you guys were leading the way, being
these whales out there, just youknow, getting all the cards and all
the keys and all the variants,and here I am, you know,
holding it down, staying you know, collection complete. You know how the
mighty have fallen? Yeah, yeah, you know. I'm taking a page

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from your book to to try andbecome a purple purpose. I was like
a purpose, Yeah, I don'tknow. The more cards come out,
the the more it takes to toto you know, some of this rubbing

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my fingers water, you know,more water it takes to afford this stuff.
So it's like I don't want todo it too often because some cards
aren't worth it. And I don'tknow if Fostos is gonna be one of
those cards that are worth it.I didn't get McCary. I know,

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Don, you pulled it with one. Dakota, did you get it?
No? I didn't. Yeah,so Dakota didn't pull either. I'm you
know, it's time to make decisionsinstead of being like collection complete, you
know quotes. I don't mind notbeing collection complete anymore if it means giving

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up some of these bad cards thatshouldn't be six thousand tokens or more than
one key. I'm not I'm notmad. I'm just makes it worse.
So uh, let's go in tooFasto's so his uh card details are He's

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a three costs three power and hison reveal effect is give each card in
your deck minus one costs or plustwo power as the person that did get
it. This week, let's startwith you, Don. How did you
I don't know if you got gameswith it yet or played against it.

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How do you feel about this card? A little bit of both. I've
seen it a couple of times.I did fit it right into my you
know, surfer deck. It's fun. I think there's a couple of ways
you can go with this. Ithink you can go with either the surfer
side, or you could actually fitit into a nice little zoo deck.

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I honestly think it worked pretty wellwith like the COCAMESH card, right,
so you're the get and reduced costor increase power that it's given you a
chance to kind of play that out. So either way you want to go
with that. You know, obviouslyit's a three power three costs fits really
well into a solar surfer deck.You know, you have to kind of

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to figure out, Hey, whatdo I want to pull out? What
do I want to add in.You know, I've actually been messing around
with McCarthy just because I have nothingbetter to do and I need to finish
those missions. I'm thinking this weekthis is pretty much going to replace that
card and we're just going to seehow it goes. You know, do
those extra couple of missions this weekend. And uh, you know, like

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I said, it took me threekeys to do it. But at the
end of the day, I likebeing complete, collection complete. I don't
know how next week's going to go. I don't know if I'm gonna get
that one, but you know,we'll see what happens. So next week
is okay, So yeah, Ibelieve with this card it works well with

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Ersham. But what are your thoughtson this card and why did you decide
to skip it as well, Dakota. It just kind of comes down to
the style of play. I don'treally see this going into any of the
decks that I'm running currently. Granted, the meta will change as cards change

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with the meta right, so it'slike I can see the card production being
or the cost reduction being a verybeneficial thing to have. This looks like
a good tech card. The onlyreason why I'm not pulling the trigger is
because so I saved up my creditsduring this time I was out in New

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York, and when I was sittingin the airport, I had over ten
thousand because the last like mission Icollected put me over that and that only
got me two keys, and mebeing able to do that again is gonna
take some time. The reason Igot there is because I skipped McCary,
And it's just this card is notgonna make it or break it for me.

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It's not something I'm like, ifI don't have this card, there's
no way I'm gonna be able toclimb. I just don't see that happening.
I could be completely wrong. Itlooks looks like it has cool chances
to change stuff. It looks likea fun card. But as far as
being the most competitive, I justI don't know. I think that it's
gonna be a little clunky, andunless you're doing like Don was mentioning he's

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doing stuff with Surfer, I justdon't only much care for the Surfer builds.
I'm kind of over Surfer personally.I do think that this card would
be cool to run thanos might bepretty fun on the stones, which is
the one reason why I am lookingat it and debating. But I'm trying
to be strong here because I reallyjust I don't see dropping my keys for

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this card unless something changes, likethroughout the week, and I just I'm
like, okay, this the iskilling me. I need this card now.
I mean, okay, So Ibelieve this card is a good card.
Like Dakota mentioned, I don't thinkit's make our break on anything.

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It does help, but if youthink about it, you use it turn
three. If you're not playing magic, you only has his effect. You
only have his effect for three turns, right, so, and you don't
know exactly what it's going to do. To the next three cards you draw,

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so you don't know if it's goingto be minus one cost or plus
two power. So it's kind ofit's kind of a worse Sarah in some
ways because Sarah, when you playher on five, I know, you
only have one turn to play hertypically, but you already know what you
have in your hand if you wantto play Sarah, right, so you

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have that knowledge behind it. Nowwith Fostos, you're very limited because at
turn three you have six cards leftin your deck. If I'm not mistaken,
did I do that math right?Six or five something like that,

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Let's just say six ish, Sothat's like half your deck that you still
have to draw, which I meanwith a deck tracker it makes it more
If there was one for mobile,it would make it more feasible to be
like, Okay, I know whatI have in my deck. You know

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these are the possibilities. Now withouta deck tracker, you have to either
write something down or be very goodat memorization, which you know, I
don't have the time to do.Like a game is five minutes. I'm
not going to write down every littlething for a five minute game, right,
It's not a tournament. So Idon't know, it's a card that

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I feel would be good at atwo cost? What do you guys think?
I agree on the one. Wehave so many three costs. You
mentioned this earlier. You know thatwe're getting a lot of surfer related cards.

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Everything is surfer, they're all threecosts. What the heck? It's
crazy to get a couple more cardsthat you can actually use in that deck
right where. You know, thesurfer style has actually been pretty stale for

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a while, right, So thefact that you know, getting a couple
of tech cards that you can fitinto it is actually kind of nice in
my opinion. You know, doI think, yeah, do I think
these are going to be make orbreak? No? But at the end
of the day, I think,I mean, how many of your season

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cards actually are make or break cards? Right? I mean just looking at
that back at the last couple ofseasons, there there's a ton of cards
in there. You're just like,I really don't need that to get the
meta going. Yeah, that's verytrue. I think the more meta defining
ones were like Red Hulk, WhiteWidow, Red Guardian. So I mean

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last season there's like three out ofthe five that were pretty not meta defining,
but if you didn't have them,you felt kind of behind, right,
especially because White Widow is such apolarizing card early game, late game
you could get past the effect.But early game if they threw that in

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throne room, or if they threwthat in the location where you draw two
cards, if you're winning, youknow the lane forgot what that one's called.
Yeah, So it's very it's avery polarizing card that helps you so
much much in the early game lategame. Like I said, it actually

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works well with some decks like runningElsa because like, oh, you feel
you gave me another card that willbe zero, but I get the Elsa
effect on it, right, Soespecially with uh what was his name during
that season it was Professor X Cannonball, right, So during that meta it
was very useful. Now, thecards this season, Theena, GILGAMESH,

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McCary, Faustos and Arisham, itseems like fun, you know, and
I'm cool with that. I'm coolwith fun, But I think in infinite,
like when you reach infinite, youplay for fun. So with the

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season coming to an end, likeAirsham next week right after Arisham, and
then the week after it's gonna beWe're gonna be tossed down into the the
dungeon again, right, and we'regonna have to be climbing. You know,
I don't see many of these cardsbesides maybe Theena, maybe Gilgamesh.

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I don't know. I don't knowif Zoos stays around, right, because
uh, if Kayia isn't in thedeck list, kill mongers around. So
I don't know. I feel likeprobably one to two of the cards released
this season would probably be used inthe Climb. How do you guys feel

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about it? Like, you know, the cards this season, I mean,
I think you're right, Like therehasn't been a card there that has
just like stuck out. It's like, hey, I have to have this
to build a deck, right.You know Athena is it's a good card,
right. You know, It's kindof one of those nice cards where
you're like, oh, if Iplay two cards, you know, she

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goes up to power. You know, it's kind of one of those additional
ad extra little power for not doinga whole lot in the first place.
But at the same time, isI've played some decks that she's worked in,
but nothing that I'm like, Man, I know, I'm for sure
playing that deck, you know atthe beginning, and next season here we
go, you know. But infairness, I'm not even one hundred percent

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sure when we'll play next season becausewhether it's you know, any of the
cards that we've gotten over the pastyear. So but you know, but
that's a that's a two week meproblem. It's not this week me problem.
How about yourself to good? Howdo you feel about the cards being
released? Yeah, I'm right therewith you. I think that Athena is

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one that is gonna carry on justbecause the kitty kitty Angela Athena builds.
That's that's such an early smack,like you're able to just build that up
so fast that if you're not payingattention to it, you're gonna lose whatever
laye that is like that, youdon't have many answers to that once you
get cooking on it. So that'sone it's gonna stay. Gilgamesh I think

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will die off as soon as thenew season starts because Deadpool season is gonna
be very heavy. I'm sure withDestroy everyone's gonna be wanted to play him.
I'm guessing, you know, andthat means kill Munger is waking up,
which is really gonna put a damperon any Zoo builds. I mean,
yeah, you could probably do someother stuff, but I just think
that he works best in Zoo,so I'd be kind of surprised if he

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sticks around uh fastas is gonna probablybe in that same build. I don't
only see how well he's going tofall into this new season pulling in.
I mean, granted, negative oneon Deadpool would be pretty nice. You
got a zero rocking with everything cool, but Destroy is already such a solid

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play line, like you have everythingyou need already. I don't really see
taking anything out to put him in. So have you played Destroy at all
this season? And either one ofyou I have? Yeah, no,
no, Now what type of Destroy? Just the the goth mommy destroy that

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we built a while ago, thegeneralized one. How well has it been
doing? Because I know a lotof the YOGAMESH decks do run kaira.
You know, I know it's onecard out of the twelve. You don't
know if they drew it or not, but that does put a damper on
you know, Killmonger. So howhas Destroy fared for you during this season?

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It hasn't been bad? I meanthere's only been maybe I'd say if
I was to put like say twentygames I played, I think I ran
into a GILGAMESH deck weis that hadCaira. Most of the time they didn't
get if they had it, theydidn't get it, and it was they
were treated before Burned five, soI didn't even get like it was you
could see where they were going withit. Yeah, Okay, this is

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not going to happen. I gotAnd yeah, I mean once you build
up with that destroy deck, it'sreally hard to stop. Like it is
a solid play line deck. Soyeah, I always have fune with destroyed.
Destroy is one of my all timefavorites, just because I love venoms
so much, like that that card, just to play that card is like
my favorite. Yeah, I thinkright now I'm at the point where I

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don't know what I want to play, right because I was one of those
you know, we all reached infinitethis season using the cannon Ball Professor X
kind of combo, and I feellike they completely killed it. It would
be nice if they didn't completely killit and it just make a play around.

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But because that's gone, you know, I kind of that was kind
of my play style right like lockdown. But you know it's hard to do
a lockdown now that cannonball, youknow, you can't really if you can
inball something, it could go intothat lockdown lane. Professor X doesn't really
stop it anymore. So, Imean, and there's other type of lockdowns,

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but there's ways around it with Jeffwith Nocturn being relevant right now,
you know a lot of that stuffthat is relevant can't really have a lock
you know, goes against goes greatagainst lockdown decks. So I'm kind of

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in a limbo. So you know, I'm just trying to find what I
wanna start ramping up next season withbecause I don't think I think Asham is
gonna be fun. I do reallywant to see what people come up with
with Airsham, and I believe peopleare saying fast those will work well with
Airsham, but I don't believe it'sgonna be a competitive deck because it's gonna

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be a lot of random. SoI just really quick, but what are
your thoughts on Airsham coming out nextweek? Lets are what you Dakota.
So this is the thing I reallywant to hold out to play it.
Just I think I might drop keysfor it, just because I like that
it's chaos, like you just mentioned, it's not gonna be competitive, like

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this is funny because I'm such ahypocrite. I'm like, well, I
do want to get fast. It'snot gonna be something that's game breaking.
It's not going to be good.And I'm over here like Airsham. I
want him because it's just gonna beso random and I want to be a
part of that. I think that'sgonna be fun, you know, like
it it's just gonna be pure chaos, and I enjoy that when there's no
negatives being an infinite. I'm notscared to play this style because it's like

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if I lose, who cares,you know, But I wouldn't want to
play this. If I'm climbing theladder, I'd be freaking terrified. Like
no, I don't want to playthis style. So I don't know.
It's kind of hard to look atit in the light of like if it
was competitive, I would say,do not get this card. It's too
risky. Man. It's just likejust like how picks he can be just

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like your worst enemy sometimes, orjust like how Sircy can kill you.
It's got more negatives and positives.And I don't see this card being great
in the long run, but itsure looks like it's gonna be fun.
I think that's something I'm missing rightnow, is the fun concept of things.

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I do have fun playing other decks, but it's the consistency is what
kind of kills my vibe. Youknow, I'd love to play a consistent
deck, like, Yeah, Imight not win all the time, but
the deck is consistent, right,you know how it operates, it works
well together, and right now I'mnot really finding it, or maybe I'm

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just getting very bad algorithms when Iplay, But you know, I'm looking
for something consistent, and I'm takingtime and I'm losing a lot of cubes
just to try and find it.You know, but how about yourself done?
How do you how do you feelabout Airsham coming out next week?
Let's be honest. What's the mostimportant thing about having a deck? Right?

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It's cube management? Right? Youknow when to snap, you know
when to retreat, you know whatcards are your wind conditions, Like Airsham
is one of those decks that you'renot going to know any of that,
so at best, you're not goingto be like, uh, do I
snap? Do I not snap?Do I try to kick those cubes?
Do I not? Like even evenfor the funness factor, right, It's

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it's literally like when you go outand you try to run the gambit destroy
all their cards deck, right,it is literally one for shits and giggles.
And you know, if I havethe cubes, I'm not going to
or if I have the things,I might pull for it, because you

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know, I try to pull atleast once, because you know, I've
been extremely lucky, you know,oh yeah for the past month or something.
I think I got to keep thatyou know, complete level for you
guys. Yeah, we got tolive vicariously through you. But I just

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want to I just want to shoutout disco weasel, he says. As
a casual player, I like thechallenge of the introduction of new cards and
locations. But the most fun Ihave is weirdly pull one decks Devil Dinosaur
deck because Zoo decks, et cetera. And that's what's cool about you know,
GILGAMESH coming out right, it broughtback Zoo decks and those were the

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decks that we played even through Pooltwo. You know, like we were
just like, oh, just beaware of Killmonger because he's releasing Pool too,
And I had a lot of funthere. Devil Dinosaur decks definitely.
I know there's a Devil Dinosaur Lokideck, which is really fun to play

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with because Loki in general is reallyfun because you don't know what you're gonna
get from your opponent, like dependingon like if you have a full hand,
you have seven cards, I meanall six cards at most. Most
of the times you're getting half youropponent's deck. So it's really cool to

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to to have that variety. ButI think they they've fallen off ever ever
since the introduction of these new cards, so they are fun to play.
I can't wait for to see Airshimdecks. I don't like I said,
I don't know if I'm gonna getit, but we'll see if they release
some bundles with credits, because youknow, without credits, I can't get

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keys, and I don't want tobuy straight up credits. That's that's that's
not that's not the way. Youknow. I'm a sucker for a good
bundle. So the next thing Iwant to go into is I want us
to look over the roadmap that secondDinner has come out. This starts from

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September twenty twenty two, and thenit's gonna go to the most recent one,
which was June twenty twenty four,and I just want this one is
actually marked up by somebody that waslike, okay, yeah they did implement
this. Hey where is this?You know, we'll go over you know
what the signs mean. But I'mgonna go ahead and pop up right here.

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So this is September twenty twenty two. We have right here where it
says coming soon. You know,we got all these which is the Global
Mobile launch, which of course wegot PC early access localizations, thirteen,
welcome bundle, reward delivery, inboxsystem, variant rarity system. Great.

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Right, then we get in developmentan unranked mode. So this is ever
since December September twenty twenty two,they were supposed to make an unranked mode.
I don't know if that was supposedto be conquest. But what do
you guys think about them not releasingan unranked mode right now? Let's start

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with you don As far as I'mconcerned, infinite is unranked mode because it
doesn't matter if you are ten orten thousand or one hundred thousand. You
don't get anything for it, sobut you got to get there. No,
I think this would actually be afun thing to do looking at it

(25:59):
right now, Basically, Proving Groundsis your unranked mode because you go in,
you both snap first turn, youknow, you a cube. Hopefully
you leave after that. But it'dbe nice to have somewhere you can test
these things out and not be like, oh, this jerk's gonna take me
two or three rounds just because they'renot playing Proving Grounds the way you're supposed

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to. Now do you think doyou feel like this is forgivable? They
haven't unranked, they haven't released anunranked mode yet. Do you do you
do you feel that's forgivable? Yeah? I don't have much of an issue
with it. Like I said,if you really just want to mess around

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and you want to do something that'snot super serious, I mean, let's
be honest, like, for themost part, anything under Gold in the
The Conquest, Escape Me in theConquest, Yeah, it is fairly low

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risk, low reward, right,That's that's how I feel. So I
don't really have a problem that wedon't have this in the game right now.
Okay, and I agree with whatyou said. It is a low
risk, high reward just because theygive gold tickets in cases. I'm still
not a fan of that, andthat that is why you don't actually need

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to battle through proving Grounds through silverto get a gold ticket. So when
you get these gold tickets for free, I feel like it's it kind of
under sells the first two areas ofConquest. But how about yourself to code,
how do you feel about them notreally releasing an unranked mode. I'm

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really on the same page with onwith this. I feel like the Proving
Grounds in a way is the unrankedmode because if you really look at it
in the perspective, if you win, you get fifteen coins or tokens or
whatever to use it in their shop. If you lose, nothing happens to
you. You just okay lost.Yeah, so in a way that for

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sure is unranked. It's not thesame exact play style as you would go
for, you know, for cubes, but that's fine because if it's unranked,
you're not going for cubes anyways.Yeah, I'm cool with it.
I think that the Conquest idea theymolded unranked into it, and I'm cool
with that. I got no problemwith it, but I just I get
so annoyed when people don't honor thecode. Man, come on you,

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snapper up the rip. If you'remaking me fight you at four and four
and two like screw man, youneed to be better. There's no honor
among thieves. Maybe get better thanthis post. All right, So let's
move on to the in concept thatthey had in September twenty twenty two.
So it looks like they had Ohwell, let me just go over the

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rest of the in development. Sothe battle mode with friends, we got
Collector's Tokens, PC, widescreen userinterface and titles. At the time,
in concept was new competitive modes,which we did get. I guess Conquest
is that new competitive mode, guildsand social systems. I know. I

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believe next season is when they're goingto start it. The update today was
for that to be downloaded, somake sure you guys update your games in
game events. They have been doingthat more recently, which is really cool.

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Infinity Rank leaderboard, we did getthat. There's like a top five
thousand in online collectible emotes and cardemojis. We are getting those. Uh,
we do have these emojis that youknow we can purchase and mythic variance.

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I don't know what that means,but done start us off on on
some of this. Do you haveanything to add on? Like, because
right here it says, you know, the guilds and social systems and the
collectible emos and cardi emojis. Doyou feel they've done their job? You
know? Right now, I'm takingapplications for the Cube Guild, just you

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know, just throwing it out there, just you know, a very exclusive
group guild that we will be formingfor only the most most highly ranked purposes
out there. I'm kidding. It'sgonna be a mess. So as far
as that goes, it'll be uh, it'll be fun. Yeah, I

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look forward to seeing what this actuallymean. Like, okay, what does
having a guild in this game mean? Is it gonna be a you know,
guild versus guild three versus three,five verses five? You know group
play? Whoever wins gets I don'tknow, bragging rights that who knows?

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Mm hmm. How about yourself?To code, how do you how do
you feel about all this, theguilds and the emotes and stuff that they
have been coming out with. Areyou laughing because he's stuck. Yes always
he No, he's not stuck.He's just he's a very good ventriloquist.

(31:41):
I was gonna say, yo,right now, whoa, whoa, whoa.
There ain't no hands up anywhere,brother, Oh my god. Yeah,
So going off again, just piggybackand like its new competitive modes all

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that stuff. We don't only havea new competitive modes outside of conquest,
so we're going off of just that. There's not really much to go with.
We're all in speculation on still.If we're doing now, they're calling
them alliances and stuff. Supposely that'sabout to begin. So that's cool to
the train wreck in Europe from whatI've been hearing, but I didn't really

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follow it too intently. I've justbeen like seeing on comments from just people
going off on it. So it'sbeen interesting to watch. The rank still
to me needs to be revamped.Granted, yeah, okay, we see
a leaderboard. You should be gettingsomething if you're at a certain rank.

(32:42):
One thing point in fighting and gettingto that level, if you're not getting
any perks for it, you know, well, I think that should be
something. I do want to saythat when when you fight up there in
the ladder. I think the rewardis getting more competitive games, right because
conquests, you know, you don'tknow what kind of level you're gonna play,

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but if you're in the higher bracketsof the leaderboard, then you get
more competitive games, and those areIt seems like that makes it easier to
do, Like, Okay, whatif I wanted to play this in a
tournament? Can I you know,you could just queue up onto the what

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is it? Onto the ladder andthen try things out. So I think,
you know, because if they makeit so there's rewards for like top
players right in the leaderboard, thenit kind of leaves a bad taste in

(33:52):
everybody else's mouth. People that don'tmake it right, you know, people
that play the game for fun.They're like, oh, well it's it's
actually if it's a say they givelike a variant, right, a good
variant, it makes it feel likea slide like, oh, that's the
only way I can get that variant. Now, if they did this,

(34:14):
I wouldn't mind them doing like,oh, you get two free premium mystery
variants. Right, at least it'srandom and these mystery variants can be obtained
by everybody else. It's not toobad. It's not like an ultimate,

(34:35):
and then people are like, ohmy god, they get a free ultimate.
That would be instane. That wouldbe amazing. It would be amazing,
and it would be something for peopleto strive for. But I could
see a lot of people getting saltyabout it. You know what I'm saying.
Oh yeah, this community can gofrom being like this grame is great

(34:57):
to like fuck this game. Theyjust get all that. Where's the mamu?
Everyone gets a free pixel? Yeah, so I mean I wouldn't mind
that, you know, like,imagine get a free pixel because that means
one less you don't pull from yourcaches. So I'm gonna go ahead and
move on to let's see this one'sDecember twenty two. I'm just gonna read

(35:23):
over these really quickly to speed everythingup. So the coming soon at that
time was Battle Mode versus Friend's NameChange, artists credits. I think we
could change our names every I believe, like every month or yeah. Yeah,

(35:44):
so Russian and Vietnamese language support,Infinity Split mod details. I don't
know what that means. In development, pcy screen UI smart decks. I
think smart decks is the auto deck. Yeah, I'm not mistaken. Okay,
new competitive modes, so yeah,has done rank mode and then in

(36:06):
concept we have all those done.Booster magnets is something new PC controller support.
I know they mentioned that before seasoncash improvements. There's a check there,
but I don't think they really improvedit. Oh sorry, I'm on

(36:27):
the side here, so yeah,right here, this right here, the
season cash improvements. I don't believewe got improvements. I mean, I
feel like the system was better beforein some ways. In some ways,
I do like how they make iteasier for you to obtain variants, but

(36:52):
they make it harder for you toget tokens, right, so it's it's
toss up, I don't know,and gold harder to get gold. Let's
see. So for me personally,I don't see why you would play controller

(37:13):
with PC for a card game,but that's just me. So other than
that, I am kind of interestedin the booster magnets, which they've mentioned
that you'd be able to choose whatcard you get boosters for and that would
help so much mythic variants. Theystill haven't mentioned what that is, but

(37:38):
I'm interested to find out what thatis. So let's start with you decode
how do you feel about these mythyou know, quote unquote mythic variants booster
magnets and PC controller support. Thecontroller support to me is, yeah,
it doesn't bother me because I wouldn'tbe using it. The thing that does
bother me, though, is frommy understanding, it still hasn't to implement

(38:00):
it, to put things in concept. Granted that just means is what they're
thinking about doing. I don't know. It's frustrating to have them even say
we're thinking about doing this and thenthey never follow through. Here we are
now in twenty twenty four. TheI don't understand the variant thing that's interesting.
I am very much for them toactually get this implemented with the magnet

(38:22):
because I can't tell you how manytimes I have played decks hoping to get
boosters for one specific card and Inever get those boosters. I don't know
what the heck it is, butit goes to everybody else. Like when
Nico came out, I was playingher. It took me so and I
played destroy a lot and I playedthat card a lot, and it took
me probably three months to finally geta full split. Not kidding like it

(38:46):
just I could not get boosters forher. I tried it on Conquest.
I tried it on the ladder.Nothing was working. It was getting so
annoying. And Wolverine the same thingin a destroyed deck. I never get
for Wolverine never. I don't knowwhat the heck. So I'm for the
magnet big time. All right,how about yourself done? Yeah, I

(39:10):
think a magnet's nice. It woulddefinitely make it easier to get those splits
that you're looking for, you know, I know right now. You know
I'm trying to get a couple ofgold backs on a couple of things to
get a nice full gold deck.So it would be a lot easier to
do that instead of just hoping toget them. Mythical variance, Hey,

(39:36):
wasn't that checked off in one ofthe ones up above? You know what?
It was checked off in this one, right, Oops, that's our
logo, that's myths, my judgment, So it was checked off in this
one. I don't know why,because this one's older, So I don't

(39:59):
know why they check that one offwhen we haven't gotten mythic variants. Maybe
were they called mythic variants before theultimates? Right? Or maybe maybe that's
what it is. Yeah, I'mgonna do a little google here. Okay,
Well you know why they're mythic,right, No, because they never

(40:22):
existed. There's just stories about themover and over again. They're myths.
So I'm gonna move on to uhso that was December twenty twenty two.
I'm gonna move on to March twentytwenty three, and so you know,

(40:42):
same things here. I'm just gonnashow it real quick, things that they've
they've added and implemented. I'm gonnafocus more on the in concept things that
haven't come out yet, which theguild social systems we talked about seasonal audio.
Mythic variance comes back in collectibles,emotes and card emojis we're getting though

(41:05):
we have those now. The onethat sticks out is this test deck mode.
So I'm thinking this mode. Sorry, I'm still stuck on Dawn.
I think this mode is supposed tobe where you don't own the cards yet

(41:25):
and you're just testing them in game. Now. I've heard a lot of
talk about this, saying like,Okay, this would give me a better
better reason behind purchasing the card righteither through using keys or using tokens.

(41:47):
But I want to test the cardout before I buy it. You know,
you don't. It's kind of likea car. You don't just buy
a car straight up unless you testit first. So it's really it'd be
really beneficial it Maybe more people wouldpurchase cards if they would be able to
test it first. But how doyou feel about that concept? On you

(42:14):
guys test your cards first? That'ssorry. I think this would be interesting.
I think this would be a funa fun little place set because I
think it really does. So,you know, there's so many times with
cards like I don't know, likeNico. Right when Nico was first coming
out, everyone was kind of like, oh, I don't think this card

(42:37):
is gonna be a very good card, and then all of a sudden it
became the staple, and so manydecks, especially the Gothmammy deck. Right,
you know, it would give youa chance to actually play around with
Okay, how does this work?How does it it work? And so
many different things, and you probablywould like you know, this week is

(42:59):
a perfect example, right fistos.It's kind of like, hey, I
don't know if I want to buythis. I don't know if I do,
so this will work really really wellevery time I see you laughing that.
My brain just goes because you SAIDOS. I was like, so,

(43:28):
how about yourself, Dakoda, howdo you feel like do you think it's
because looking at it now, thiswas back in March twenty twenty three,
it is now June twenty twenty four. We don't have a test deck mode.
How do you feel about not havingit yet but still getting other stuff
before that's not even on this listyet. It's getting frustrating. You know,

(43:52):
if you're not going to follow throughwith something, don't dangle the carrot.
Okay, don't be telling them thisis the kind of idea you guys.
At this point, they should reallyunderstand what they're capable of doing and
implementing, and and not following throughwith what their roadmap is consistently, it's
getting ridiculous. And this is startingto get to that point where're like,

(44:12):
okay, cool, we still don'tknow what the hell the mythic variants are.
Yeah, they're not finixing this PCcontroller support, which should have been
a pretty easy thing to do withthis point. I mean so honestly,
I would say, like, ifyou're going to trash the PC controller support,
just tell us, because the freakplays controller on a card game.

(44:34):
I don't know, like one dude, I just I just want to I
just can't wait for me, youknow, like it's just it's a crack
up, man, who's going tobe doing that? It's a mobile game
to begin with your PC? No, I'm sorry, Like, just who
who thought that? That's one ofthose like drunken ideas they came up with.
They were just tossing around like,you know what, who'd be a

(44:55):
good idea? I will not standhere and have you bat controller? You
you you gentlemen? Are are youknow? Fiend? You know what?
I'm just gonna stand here and stayvery all right. So the next one

(45:23):
that we have here is the sowe we get PC launch. This is
August twenty twenty three, right,We got the PC launch. Sorry they
move it. We got the PClaunch. We got Twitch drops were amazing,
card upgrade, improvement, seasonal Audios, Conquest, Polish Infinite Rank Revamp,

(45:45):
Global matchmaking Phase one. So wedon't have full global matchmaking just yet.
If I'm not mistaken, like wecan't play somebody in the Philippines or
in Korea. You know, Ithink it's still separated. So in development

(46:06):
they have here prestige levels. Ilike how they checked off Spotlight cash improvements
because yeah, whatever wrong, Sothis is interesting right here. Ultimate variant
evolution. I know they mentioned this. They mentioned that if you purchased an
Ultimate, it would be different ina way than regular, and you could

(46:31):
see here in concept they have mythicvariants, so it is different from Ultimate
variants. So it's very weird thatthey haven't mentioned anything about mythic variants.
I don't know if those were supposedto be the Spotlight variants, but I
don't know. New game mode here, let's see what else the new infinite

(46:55):
splits and split system improvements. Idon't know what that's supposed to meet,
but I don't Yeah, but Ithink the most polarizing things here are the
prestige level. Like I don't knowwhat prestige level means. I mean,
I know in Call of Duty,prestige meant you start from one, right,
but then you get like a badgethat you that only you get if

(47:20):
you start over from one. ButI don't know what that would mean in
this he laughing, Well, Alex, Alex has been prestiging this whole time.
Sorry, if you guys don't know. We have a coworker that plays
the game, and multiple times ithas he restarted the games. One of

(47:46):
the times was not his fault.He he doesn't spend money on the game.
He's a free to play player,which you know, totally support.
But he doesn't link anything to hisaccount. So he changed phones. Of
course it didn't link. So he'slike, well, I downloaded it and
my information is not there. Sohe started from one. But every time

(48:08):
if the game gets too hard,he'll just restart. But yeah, that's
he's been. He's been prestiging man, like three times. Correct. So
I'm going to start with you,Dakoda, like, how do you feel
about them not having this prestige level, mythic variance and ultimate variant evolution?

(48:30):
Like I said, I'm getting frustratedat this point too. It's just watching
them say, hey, we're goingto do this stuff and then they don't
do it, over and over andover again. It's like, come on,
you know, and where's my PCcontroller support? Damn it? No,
it doesn't make sense. Man,if you're not capable of doing this,

(48:50):
don't tell us, don't get ourhopes up. I'm sick of it
getting my dreams crushed over here.I want my ultimate venom to evolve,
damn it. Like there's stuff itcould do. I don't even know what
the concepts are, but to havethat be implemented it would be great because
this game is starting to get stealedfor a lot of players. I still

(49:12):
love this game. I'm not reallyhaving the same issues as I agreed to
the comments that most are. Butto see them just continuously dangle the carrot
and then just dip on us,it's getting annoying. Yeah, I mean,
okay, so I agree with whatyou're saying, Like, you know,
stop dangling the carrot. I getit. Things change, right if

(49:35):
they if they're thinking of concepts andit goes past what they wanted to do
before and it's a new direction thatthey're going in. I believe they should
take that direction if they think it'sbetter for the game. But I think
number one thing in any relationship iscommunication, right, especially from people that

(49:57):
are supporting you guys, you know, or not not you guys, but
supporting second Dinner. Right, Soif we play the game, I feel
like, you know, if youjust give us, if you're if you
communicate with us, and be like, oh, this is why we're going
a different direction. This is whywe're not doing this anymore. I apologize.

(50:20):
We promise you guys this in concept, but we're not going to do
that anymore. Let us know,because then we're just like, it just
disappears from the in concept, Itdisappears from the in development, and we're
just like, what happened to it? You know? And then they add
new things to the lists and we'rejust like, well, you know,
you act like people don't take screenshots, you know, so it's like we're

(50:45):
not, Yeah, we're not.You know, people aren't dumb. They're
just like, you know, hey, just give us that information. Tell
us why you're not doing it anymore. If you're not doing it, if
if you are still doing it,why did it leave the list? You
know, give us that information.You know. Oh it got pushed down
more because we're still working on it, you know, because of course as

(51:08):
game developers, you know, Ican't do what you guys do, but
it's nice to know that if youcommunicate with us, then we know,
okay, cool, it's just gonnacome later on down the road. But
when it disappears from the list completely, that's when it looks kind of shady,
you know, and it looks like, oh, I'm gonna give you

(51:30):
something here. I'm gonna, likeyou said, dangle the carrot and then
you know, give you a radish. You know. It's very weird how
they do that. Now, howabout yourself done? How do you feel
about not having this prestige level,this ultimate variant evolution and this mythic variance

(51:51):
that I have been mentioned here andquite a few times. Well, since
I still don't know what all amythic, I don't know how I feel
about it. I don't think SecondDinner knows what it is like. You
know, it's kind of like this, like this idea. It's a word
that's on a piece of paper.But I have no clue since I've been

(52:15):
proven wrong about the ultimate variant,you know, stuff. Honestly, looking
at some of this stuff, inmy opinion, a lot of this stuff
is really really unimportant, right,Like, these aren't the problems I'm seeing
with the game that are really drivingme to maybe want to spend less money

(52:39):
on it. You know, Ithink the the bigger issues like these are
just like the extra little cuts tothe bigger issues, right, they're not
addressing some of the simple fact that, like I mean, in order to
keep cars and continue to get cards, like you have to spend some serious

(53:01):
money on this game, and fora game that has prided itself on being
like, oh, you don't haveto spend any money on this game.
You know I do, but youknow, for for a get, for
a game that was basically built onthat process, that concept. I think
that's like the bigger thing that's reallydry, like making people upset. And

(53:24):
then you see these little things,these stupid things like okay a PC console
and you're not you're not communicating right, and you're not giving that like it
just it says extra little like cutsthat just really start to get under your
skin and really start to just budthe hell out of you, when obviously
the deeper problem is is something else. Yeah, And I feel like with

(53:47):
people when it happens time and timeagain, they start to turn you know,
oh, you know it's an anthill, right, but you keep
doing it, keep creating it all. Then it becomes a molehill, right,
and so people end up being well, you know, you didn't give
us this, you didn't you startthey start listening things and it's just like,

(54:09):
well, you know it was,it's something that they kind of cause
for themselves because if, like Isaid, if they were just vocal about
things, people wouldn't get as heatedin the moment because they're like, Okay,
well, you know what you're workingon it, you know you have

(54:31):
you've had a few hiccups, andwho can deny that. I mean,
everybody has hiccups at work, right, uh So, I don't know,
it's it's kind of it's kind ofweird. I think even going from that
road map, like we we lostout on the what is it the booster

(54:54):
magnet that disappeared from the thing,so that that was kind of weird.
But we'll take a look at Januarytwenty twenty four here, let me read
them real quick. So coming soon, Character mastery, albums, improvements.
We did get those in game events, selectable card effects, selectable borders,

(55:17):
which is awesome. You know,that was a big thing for everybody.
New Infinity splits. We did notget those just yet. Collectible reactions.
We do have reactions in development Clansone point zero. Hopefully we get those

(55:37):
next month. Collectible borders. Wedo have those booster vats, I think
that's the magnets, if I'm notmistaken. More event types in game Graveyard
we got that, which was anamazing in concept new game mode. New
game boards haven't got those yet,but you know that's only since January twenty

(55:59):
twenty four. And then I thinkfor the game boards, it's basically just
for esthetics, so it doesn't changethe game at all. Clan competitions,
we don't even have clans yet.Ultimate variant evolution, new card mechanics.
I think we've got new card mechanics. But the biggest thing here is character

(56:24):
mastery and Ultimate Oh the new cardmechanics. So character mastery supposedly was the
more you upgrade, purchase the variants, purchase anything regarding one specific character,

(56:49):
you would have this type of masteryof that character that if you like,
say for me, like if Ipurchase everything iron Man, I would have
something to show that, oh,this guy really loves iron Man, right,
Or like you know, Dakota,like you like your Venom variant,

(57:09):
their ultimate variant and you upgraded itto the max, right, you know,
you would have something that shows,oh he really loves Venom, you
know, something like that, Likeyou purchase all the venom symbiote variants,
right and like like you do,and you would have something to show for
that. Now, I'm just gonnascroll up real quick. They don't have

(57:35):
it there, which a lot ofpeople, you know, I just want
to show you guys them. I'llshow you guys the newest one real quick.
You know, has Deadpools Diner,which is coming out next month.
Improved technical performance, which is abig thing because I know we're all talking
about the lag of the game,right yes, well yeah, so have

(58:00):
custom card improvements, which is great. You know, custom cards really cool.
You get to change the border.It gives you a little flavor of
like who are you as a player, So that's cool. Alliances Leagues,
I think those are the same things. New card mechanics, Collectible Infinity splits,

(58:22):
draft Mode, so that's the newestin concept thing. Card acquisition improvements,
it's back on there, which isgreat. And Alliance's competition. So
I want to go to you onthis, Dakota. They mentioned that this

(58:42):
character mastery right now it's gone.How do you feel about stuff like that?
Especially when they introduced it in January, people are like, oh cool,
if you like a certain character,I'm gonna start buying everything for that
character and then boom, June twentytwenty gone from the roadmap. How do
you feel about that? I'm bummed. I'm pretty upset about it. It's

(59:07):
frustrating. That was something I wasreally looking forward to. And again,
the more that we dive into thispodcast, we're starting to really watch as
they promote things on their social media. The responses is something that I feel

(59:29):
like if I was a creator andwe are technically now, you pay attention
to what people are saying. Andthe reaction of Mastery was great. Everyone
was like, this is awesome.Can't wait for that. For it to
disappear without any explanation or like,hey, we're working on this is taking
longer. I don't know, Likeas a DJ and that this is kind

(59:52):
of random, But as a DJ, when you're running a wedding, for
instance, if you're an MC andrunning winning, you gotta let people know
what's gonna happen here, because theyrestless, they get upset, and you
don't want that. You know,you want to make sure the guests know,
hey, you know what, thebride and groom, we're gonna take
their pictures right now. That's it'sgoldenwur But we have games over here,

(01:00:13):
you guys have you know, wegot this for you. Enjoy your time.
Soon we're gonna be moving forward withthe events. It's the same damn
thing with this game where we can'tjust be saying like, okay, we're
gonna do this and then it justit's gone. And that bothers everybody.
Like the amount of comments that rolledin on their page the day that they
all discovered matters gone. Yo,dude, there was all I'm doing you

(01:00:37):
the game this is trash, likeyou know, I doubt everyone actually said
that it's gonna fallow through, butyeah, that's a wake up all my
opinion, you should see that andgo, hey, maybe we should address
this or fix this, or stopsaying we're gonna do things and not do
it. All right, how aboutyourself done? How do you feel about
something just disappearing from the the roadmapwithout without an explanation, right, I

(01:01:00):
think that's the biggest thing is theydid it without an explanation. They they
never said, hey, it's stillgoing to be there. Hey, you
know, just we just put itoff to the side. It's actually even
lower than in concept, So sohow do you feel about that? Don
Yeah, I mean this is clearlya messaging issue, right, the simple

(01:01:22):
fact that it's in coming soon,Like, really, it should never been
in coming soon. It should alwaysbeen in concept. Like if things disappear
from in concept, I think that'skind of like, hey, we have
this idea that we're trying to workon, right, and then you know
in development, like hey, we'reactively working on getting this thing into the
game, coming soon. Everything iscoming soon, should be implemented. Right.

(01:01:45):
You're literally saying, hey, hereit is right, it's about to
be here, and for you togo, okay, well not anymore,
goodbye, see you later, notgoing to be a thing, and then
just just just for that nothing happened. You know, that's a messaging issue,
right. You really need to makesure that Like look, if it

(01:02:06):
was in the in concept right anddisappeared, you're like, okay, that
concept just didn't play out, right, Yeah, But it's literally like everyone's
like, oh man, look,Mastery, it's it's gonna be right here.
It's it's it's you know, uhman, I can't wait to get
my dippool mastery right, or oryou know, whatever your favorite character is.
And then it's just like hah,gotcha, yeah right, And it's

(01:02:30):
it's funny because once people heard aboutthis, because they did speak about it,
I believe in one of the liketheir monthly introduction videos, they're like,
oh, yeah, this is thisis something that's gonna come soon,
so get ready. Right, Soof course people got ready and started purchasing

(01:02:50):
things, things that they wouldn't havepurchased unless you know, something came out
of it, because like how manyvariants of you know, for myself,
how many variants of Iron Man doI need? You know, like I
only need the ultimate right like realistically, everything else. I'll be like,
okay, i'll get it when likeif I luckily get it from a cash

(01:03:14):
or if I get it from apremium mystery, a free premium missingy Reriant.
Right, I'll just let But peoplestart purchasing things like okay, because
you know, I want this mastery. I want the like you mentioned Deadpoole
mastery, So I'll purchase all thevariants I'll purchase. Uh, you know,
what is it like any emoji thatcomes out as a Deadpool emo,

(01:03:37):
Right, I'll do I'll do allthe Deadpool stuff that way. When the
masteries come out, I'll be likethe number one Deadpool guy, you know,
so it's kind of interesting for themto do that and then just be
like, you know, you gointo the next concept and it's like nothing's
on there. So oh, Imean there's dead pulls diners. So if

(01:04:01):
you love Deadpool that much, he'sgetting his own diner. But they showed,
they showed a lot of things.I know, Dakota, you deal
a lot with our social media,so I know you were you interact more
with our our followers, and Iknow they were having a hard time with

(01:04:25):
this, you know. They theybrought this up like, oh, we
want to hear your your thoughts onthis, and starting with you, Dakota,
what are your final thoughts on likeroad maps in general and what can
Second Dinner do to improve it.I think that because they continuously are changing

(01:04:47):
what they think is going to happen, I they'll say something and it doesn't
happen. They're losing credibility incredibly fast, and when you lose that with your
community, it's almost impossible to getit back at times, and I think
that they really need to step uptheir game and follow through. They need

(01:05:09):
to fix the issues that are theyshould not be happening anymore. We're not
in beta. We're running this game. Okay, this is no longer just
like a TALS And you know,we shouldn't be having lag like we're having.
We shouldn't be having problems when Ultronplays that the game crashes, or
any of the token cards crashing.Like, there's issues here that at this

(01:05:32):
point should not be there. AndI think that they're road maps instead of
going like, okay, look,obviously, going off of what we've seen,
they're not able to implement this stuff, but we don't know what's going
on behind the scenes, right.You know, coding is a whole crazy
world that I don't like myself,you know, me and computers, I'm
not the best with that. I'vehad my fair share, and I know

(01:05:54):
how crazy that can be. Soif they're biting too much off that they
can actually chew, I would thinkit'd be incredibly humbling and awesome if they
just came forward like, guys,we're trying to fix this. We realized
we got a little rambunctious and wedemand banking out here, and this day
we're gonna fix this. Just giveus some time, try to actually come

(01:06:16):
back to the community that is feedingthem their money and say, hey,
let's let's let's all try this again, and we're going to first let's fix
this X, Y, and Zwith the lag or get this game running
smooth again, and we'll go fromthere. And I would feel a lot
better on that. I think thatthey're again their credibility is shot and they
have some things to make up for. On that side, I still love

(01:06:40):
the game, but it is frustratingthat it takes me forever to actually play
it. And the new problem thatwe have right now is these cards effects
are not actually even working. Onturn six, You're having people that you
know, my Cosmo's out, andthen somehow Odin still goes off lane,
which is absolutely insane. What's happeninghere? Oh man, I haven't even

(01:07:05):
come across that yet. So yeah, you know, it's little coding stuff
here and there where. It's justlike you know, when you if you're
releasing a card every week, youneed to make sure it doesn't affect the
entire game, right, Yeah,Like every week people are pumping in money

(01:07:28):
just to get the new card,right. Oh, they want to be
collection complete like mister don But butit does take one. It takes luck,
you know, luckiest guy on everybody'sright here, But it takes money
too if you're not lucky. Youknow. I'm sure if you go through

(01:07:51):
our posts and our Instagram you'll seethat I probably have the most four key
things ever, you know, Solike I'm very unlucky. So you know,
for someone that does that like me, I actually have to put in
money if I want to get thenew card, and I'm not willing to
do that every time, you know. So that's why it's just like it's

(01:08:15):
infuriating that little stuff like this.We're just like, hey, this is
promised, and but it just disappears. It's like, you know, I
probably get like six thousand tokens forthat or something a ticket, I know,
but I don't know. It's justlike like I mentioned before, all

(01:08:39):
kidding aside, like just communicate withyour community, because your community wants to
be in the know. I mean, if don't tell us like things that
are even lower than in concept,right, tell us about things that have

(01:08:59):
already been stated and you you havean update on it. Right, If
you have an update, let usknow, oh okay, sorry it didn't
work out, you know, becausethings happen, like you mentioned before,
coding right, Oh, we thoughtwe could do it, you know,
where we don't have the staff todo it because we we know that they're
going through something. They're they're they'recutting ties with New Verse supposedly. I

(01:09:24):
don't know New Verse is still there, but yeah, yeah, I don't
know. So it's funny because it'slike, oh, I thought New Verse
was gonna be gone by now,but you know, if not, then
that's totally fine. It's just likeI said, communicate with your community,

(01:09:45):
now, how about yourself done?Any any final words on like how Second
Dinner should handle things? Yeah,it seems like they really need to make
it. So Helen Keller isn't dryingthis roadmap, you know, because it's
kind of one of those things whereit's like, you know, here's a
concept and that should be down theroad somewhere, and then and then you

(01:10:11):
should have in development, which shouldbe right there, but then you got
like mastery just like pops up nextto you and then it's gone and you're
like, wait, I wanted tomake that turn, but but you know
what, it's not there, likereally what they need to do, just
like you were saying is consistent.Right, you should see what's in development,
what is a concept, and thenit should move to the development It

(01:10:32):
should be there, coming soon.And then here's a crazy idea, it
should be in the game. Right, That's how that should work. And
again, if for some reason somethingdoesn't work in there, just let us
know. Hey, the coding onthis was like we just couldn't get this
concept or we felt like it wasgoing to break this aspect of the game,

(01:10:54):
Like there's those little things. Buthonestly, just taking your concept ideas
and in development and throwing them ata dartboard and be like, I guess
it's there now. They need todo better. And as far as the
communication part and the messaging part andjust the keeping up with people and not

(01:11:15):
being like, well there's a thingyou wanted and it's gone and it's goad
and that's that's I also want to, you know, give credit where credits
do. Second Dinner has done anamazing job with all the other stuff that
they've implemented, right, I mean, yeah, there are some downsides to

(01:11:36):
it, but having things be uniqueto a player, like the borders,
like the splits, right, youknow, they've done an amazing job.
On that. And you know,these criticisms come from people that want to
continue to play the game. It'snot like, oh, these are the
reasons why I'm leaving the game,right, No, these are reasons why

(01:11:59):
I think you should act like yourcommunity means something to you, you know,
like just doing things or you know, getting rid of things and not
talking to me community. It's likeit makes us feel like they don't care,
you know, and in you know, relationships, you have to have

(01:12:19):
that right. You gotta have thatconfirmation. It's like show us you care,
right, And it's not just like, oh, give us free stuff.
I could you know, yeah,give me free stuff if you want
to, but I'd rather you justtell me what's going on. Right.
So, I don't know, Ifeel like I don't know if we're too

(01:12:43):
late on this. Maybe they cameout with something already, but nothing that
I've heard. So we'll leave itat that. Before we so the next
thing, I know, you wantedto talk about acquisition, right, Dakota

(01:13:03):
or keys or what were you talkingabout? Oh yeah, I wanted to
bring up an idea okay, whereyou guys pick your brain for a second
about the seasons, so we allpay for the ten dollars wee get the
season going. I'm thinking in thecashes that there should be some keys wait
in the like what cashes in thecashes that we go through it like zero

(01:13:30):
to fifty within that, Oh,I'm thinking there should be some keys in
there. Man, I don't knowabout you guys, just want to hear
your thoughts. So okay, SoI know meant Don mentioned this earlier where
you know they probably themselves on afree to play game, right that you
are able to play the game forfree completely. It'll just take a while

(01:13:55):
right now. I know we talkedabout this before. I don't know I
feels on the podcast or if itwas personally, because we talked about this
game a lot. I mentioned thatfor people like us that started the game
in the MODOC season, you guysstarted just a little bit like I think

(01:14:15):
like a week and a half afterme. But like I started in a
MODOC season and it took us probablyabout a year to get collection complete at
the time. So that was withus spending money, right, quite a

(01:14:36):
bit of money for some of us, for some of us, for some
of us. Yeah, But thething is, when say, if you're
you're you're totally collecting what is itfree to play? I would actually not
even double I'd probably triple that,right, because the money you spend it

(01:15:00):
gives you way more resources then youcould obtain in a week sometimes, right,
So I would even go as tosay quadruple that. You know that
time, so it'd be crazy tosay that it would take you four years
to get collection complete. But notonly that, you're getting a card released

(01:15:25):
every week. So if you're unlockingone card a week, and one card
a week is coming out, you'llnever be collection complete, right. And
I don't know if if that's theirtheir stick or if that's what because there
used to be a respite week atthe very beginning where it's just like,

(01:15:46):
oh, okay, these are justrandom spotlight variants of good cards. We're
not releasing anything new this week.And then you're just like, cool,
I have time to use resources,save resources. But they haven't given us
that in four five months, ifI'm not mistaken, maybe even longer.

(01:16:10):
So it's it's very it's a veryhard system to work around because you want
people to purchase things, right,but I feel like variants are those things
people will want to purchase variants.I mean I would want to purchase variants,
So it's very I don't know theprice point on like if they're trying

(01:16:35):
to milk everybody dry or if they'rejust like, hey, you know,
we care about you, you supportour game. But let's start with you
know, so how about you done? How do you feel about you know,

(01:16:56):
I know we like I said,we talked about it before. How
do you feel about the acquisition?Card acquisition? Obviously it's slow. I
mean, let's be honest, Likewe're at the point where we've all been
playing for a very long time.Right, we talked about being clutching complete,
but for the most part, likewe're not right. I mean I

(01:17:18):
am, but but like we're gettingclose to but you know, come next
week, I'm I might not beright. Yeah, And because we've played
and played and played, and we'rehaving difficulty keeping up with this, right,
So so imagine someone who doesn't evenbuy the season past or the goal

(01:17:40):
pass, right, you know,because I think those are pretty cheap options,
you know, when you're talking abouta game, and like that's mainly
what I've done through this. Youknow, I've bought some stuff here and
there. Don't get me wrong.But you know, and I've been able
to keep up, give or take. Granted, I've been one of the
lucky sobs you've ever met in yourlife. But that's a whole different thing.

(01:18:04):
This simple fact remains that like ifsomeone if people like us are having
difficulty keeping up people who are playingjust casually, there's no chance, right,
yeah, And let's be honest,like there are so many cards and
the way that they get changed sooften, which you know, I like
that things change a lot, butalso it makes it more difficult because you

(01:18:26):
know, imagine that person who's playingthat Professor X, right, They're like,
I finally have something I can kindof do. I saved up,
I buy Cannonball and then next thing, you know, is just like,
well that's gone. Yeah right,you know, so I feel for that.
I think it is going to drivepeople to ultimately spend I mean,

(01:18:50):
look at you guys, right,you both are saying, hey, like,
I'm spending less money because of this, right, because I want the
cards, I want to be complete, but it's not worth it's yeah,
I mean, uh, what's goodis that in the roadmap it does have

(01:19:10):
in concept card acquisition improvements. SoI'm guessing they do see what's going on,
and you know, hopefully, uh, something's changed, because you know,
I'm hoping, and that's what I'mhoping, because I'd love to have
the cards to mess with like McCarryand stuff. But I'm just like,

(01:19:30):
it's not time to mess with ityet. But on top of that,
they've known, they've been known tochange a card like two weeks down the
road. So if Fostos gets abuff and it becomes a two cost,
I just missed out, you know, not getting him. And I know
a lot of people have been upsetabout that. It just like if you

(01:19:55):
didn't release him like that and youbuffed him so soon or you know X
card X or Y card, Uh, it's kind of a slap to my
face, like, oh I wouldhave got it or vice versa. Right,
they released Red Hulk and they nervedhim. They're like, well,
it seems like my tokens were wasted, right. I mean it's not,

(01:20:17):
but I'm just saying, you know, it's just yeah, like that card
is underpowered. Yeah, let's goCannonball, right. You know, people
like people were like, oh man, you know, Cannonball is not that
great. I'm going to pass hebecame the ship, right, and then

(01:20:39):
they're like, oh, I missedout on it, and then they ended
up buying it with tokens, youknow, and now they've nerved it and
they're like, well, I don'tknow why I bought it with tokens.
He doesn't really work in anything almostanything, right, So it's it's very,
uh, very weird how this works. And I'm hoping that these card

(01:21:02):
acquisition improvements not only help us buthelp newer players, because that's the biggest
thing, right We want more playersin the game support the game so that
we don't have to spend as muchbecause I think, honestly, I feel
like if there were more players thatactually, if they made price points decently,

(01:21:28):
that they wouldn't have to do hundreddollar bundles, you know, because
they're like, oh, well,well, we have a player base of
a couple million, and if acouple of million purchased this twenty dollars bundle
instead of like a couple thousand purchasingthis hundred dollar bundle, we're making way
more. Or you never know ifthey're just going to be greeting and just
do both. So I don't know, I might just be talking shit right

(01:21:53):
now. So well, I meanthat's how I hope they care about us
right as players. So anything elseyou'd like to add to coda on the
while we're on that subject, No, I think you guys have a lot

(01:22:14):
of good points on it. That'swhy I wanted to bring it up.
Just have one thought about it.So yeah, I think you all nate
it on the head and it iswhat it is. I mean, I'm
on that boat with you, man, so hopefully you know with the changes
in concept that we'll get something soon. Now. The last thing I want

(01:22:38):
to talk about is, uh,so I've had if you guys don't know,
I've had encounters with a lot oftop streamers you know in my game
right And I told you, Itell you guys all the time. I
bring it up to you guys,but for our viewers out there, I
do end up playing against a lotof tops, which is an amazing thing

(01:23:01):
because I like to I like thecompetition. But I came across one thing.
Should I name the content creator?Okay, so we'll say content creator.
We'll call them content creator. Theywere upset with the timing of an

(01:23:29):
emoji. So let me paint thepicture because it's very confusing, all right.
So we we do have emojis thatconvey a lot of things, right,
So you have that Spider Man emojiwhere it's like, oh, you
play the same thing as I did. Right. We have the uh,

(01:23:51):
the what is it? The onethat everybody doesn't like, the Miss Marvel.
You know, uh, you playeda good game, you know,
but you know a lot of peoplesee it as a slap in the face,
you know, if you do it. Now. We also have the

(01:24:12):
Hulk and the thing fist bumping.To me personally, that means good game,
or if you play in the beginning, have a good game right now.
Whenever I do play a content creator, and you know, I do

(01:24:35):
give them the fist bump at theend. Sometimes I don't realize who I'm
playing at the time, and Idon't do any emojis because I know how
but hurt people can get. Idon't do any emojis in the very beginning.
Now, when I played this contentcreator, good game, fist bumped

(01:24:57):
him. I like to rewatch theirend of things because it's it's very uh
what is it. It's it's veryfew times where you get to see,
oh, what was in their hand? And you know, why did they
decide to play that? Because Ilike to get, you know, in
their thought process, because I knowwhat I'm thinking. What were they thinking?

(01:25:21):
Right? So I watched it backand he said something very weird that
threw me off. He goes.He goes, Oh, I've played this
guy before, and he might thinkthat he's saying good game because he fist

(01:25:42):
momped he and he won, andI'm just trying to fist bump him.
Right, Yeah, like I've played. I think he means good game,
but it could it comes off ascocky. I don't, I don't.
I forgot the term that he usedspecifically. But he's saying that the time

(01:26:04):
you you you could emote all youwant in the beginning, but when you
emote at the end of the game, no matter what, it's disrespectful.
So it doesn't matter what emoji youuse. So and and then yeah,

(01:26:24):
yeah, so let me let mehear your thoughts on that, don because
I talked to the Dakota before andI'll let Dakota go again. But what
how do you feel about that?So it's rude if you lose a game
and you do the same thing hesaid. He said if you lose,

(01:26:45):
it shows good sport that you emote, but if you win, it shows
cockiness and disrespect. You know,this is this is verbatim. It's it's
not it's not exactly what he said. It's it's not verbatim. What's a
what's the other word? Like it. I'm I'm summarizing what he said.

(01:27:08):
I'm summarizing what his intent and hesaid. He also said, you know,
we just want to educate, educatepeople, you know, And because
his his chat was, you know, in my mind, I'm just like,
this is kind of like bullshit,because it doesn't matter when you emo,

(01:27:29):
it matters what you emo is whatis in my head. I didn't
know there was timing for things,So go ahead. I think, Like
I think to me, like,look at the end of the game,
if you're given to have fits one, I think universally because that's been there
forever, just like just like theSpider Man thing, It's not like everyone
i mean obviously everyone kind of understandsthe context, so they're just like,

(01:27:50):
oh, yes, or like ifyou do something stupid, you know,
oh you do the Deadpool right,m h. These are these are like
common things that honestly like at theend of the game, I fist moump
even if I know I'm going tolose, right, the card haven't even
gone out yet. I'll throw afifth mump out there and just be like,

(01:28:10):
hey, good game. You know, it sounds like he's having an
issue, right and not understanding thatthe cards. Like it's one thing if
you go out there and like you'rejust emoting all the time, right,
or you're you're hitting the big brain, you know, the leader, right,
like you know, or you know, at the end of the game,

(01:28:36):
at the end of the day,it's a game, right, The
whole point is to have fun.If you're going to get mad because someone
is giving you an emote in general, like just go maybe you should not
be playing this game, right,Maybe maybe you need to go take a
break, you know, I don'tknow, get a massage, you know,
get some sunlight because your vitamin Dis apparently very low. You know,

(01:29:00):
do something because you know you needto take a break. It's it's
fine, like people, you know, even when they change et emote,
I don't care, yeah, right, I mean, it's a game,
and the best thing in the world, the best feeling in the world is
when they chain remote you and thenit's just like they lose and then you
just give them a little venom.Okay, so good tell me your thoughts

(01:29:28):
on this. I know you toldit to me before, but please share
your thoughts on this, Dakota withwith our viewers. Oh yeah, I
straight up. If I'm fist bumpsis respect. You don't fist bump out
of anger. It's like, okay, it's gig. It's literally your name,
good game. It's over the factthat you're upset with the fist bump
makes no sense to me. Ifyou're one to piss someone off, it's

(01:29:51):
cyclos. Anytime I get cyclopes,you're talking about people who gotta go outside
and relax. Pissed. I getpissed you cyclops if I lost because of
a dumb play and you psychlosed meyourself so mad. You know what.

(01:30:11):
I never cyclops until unless somebody cyclopsme and they lose, you know,
So like, I never like leadwith cyclops because I don't know. It's
like in the bottom of my emojis. But I'm always here to try and
have a good game. So whenI went back and heard that it was
it was very it was very uh, I was taking aback by it,

(01:30:33):
right, and he said because he'she's like top one thousand, right,
so he's a good player. Butto teach your community that fist bump when
when you fist bump it seems stupidto do it after game. I'm just

(01:30:53):
like, then, I don't know. I was like, why, why
is I want to say this generationis soft as fuck, but like he
seems like he's our generation, soI don't know if he's just soft as
fuck. He was just really,next time, the next time you play

(01:31:15):
him, you need to give upthe uh, the magneto just stuff.
Okay. But on top of this, get this right, this streamer plays
Tanjo. Whenever I play Tonjo,I I do emo in the very beginning,
I emote the you know, thewhole the good game, right,

(01:31:39):
and that's what Tonjo does against him. Tonjo also beats him and emotes the
same thing, and he goes,oh, man, Tanjo is a good
guy. I'm just like, whythe fuck? You know? He I
beat you too, and I wassaying, good game, Tonjo beat you,
and he said good game. Butthen his is cool and mine isn't?
Is it? Because I'm ranked lowerthan you, and you expect to

(01:32:01):
beat me, Like it doesn't makesense to me, Like, oh,
I wasn't expected to lose to you, you know, to win against you,
right, So that's why mine itcomes off as disrespect. I don't
know. It's not disrespectful. Idon't think so. You dare no,
like no, you go ahead,go ahead? Done. Yeah, No,

(01:32:30):
it's not disrespectful at all. It'sit's honestly, people just need to
grow up and remember this is agame. We're here to have fun.
Like again, I don't even carewhen people give me the leader or or
even the cyclops. Honestly, itdoesn't bother me that much. I just
am I. Oh yayo, whogo enjoy it now. I'm gonna go

(01:32:50):
play another game and win. Youknow, Yeah, it's fun. I
feel like I get more mad atmyself than I do get mad at another
place, because I'm just like,oh, I made the mistake. They
didn't do anything to me. Imade the mistake, you know, or
you know, they were just better. They had a better hand and I
can't change that. But even whenthey emote, I think it's funny.

(01:33:15):
You know. I don't take anydisrespect from emotes. For a little badge
of honor to hurt you that bador to feel disrespected by it. I
feel man soft. It's like,how are you? How are you out
in like real life? Like youcan't everybody has to kiss your ass,

(01:33:40):
you know, I don't know.That's the only thing about content creators,
man, They feel like everybody shouldworship them or something, just because I
mean, come on, I don'tknow. We're three regular guys. You
shouldn't worship you know, anybody exceptfor me, except for Dawn. You
know he's collection complete. Yeah,he's collection yeah. You know you guys

(01:34:04):
at least for this week. Youknow you guys can bow down to collection
complete next week. You know it'llbe well, I'll be back, all
right. Anything else you like,you guys like to add on that shout
shout anybody out or say something underyour breath. Just stop cyclops in me,

(01:34:29):
please, you know, everyone outthere when you see buck Choy cyclops
all game long, win, lose, draw, just do it. It
makes me wish and I could justtype in, like I get some bad
what's your Instagram? So I couldunfollow you? All right? Well,

(01:34:53):
I want to thank everybody that issupporting our other social media's We really appreciate
you guys on TikTok Instagram. Welove responding to you guys, chatting with
you guys. So most of thetime you will be hearing from Dakota,
but every now and then Don andI hop on there and we'll chat with

(01:35:15):
you guys, and it's always it'salways nice to hear from you guys.
Things that are coming out. Weare working on a trailer right now,
hopefully we can get that up soon. Uh, just just something to get
people excited about what the show isabout and just show show them who we
are as you know, as people. Anything else, don anything else,

(01:35:48):
Nah, I just want to thankyou guys again for honestly all the work
you guys are putting in. Imean they talk a lot about how you
know, you might talk to oneof us now talking to one of them,
like I won't. I won't evenlie, like, uh, you
know, I can't even get mycomputer to work half the time. So

(01:36:08):
I'm just amazed that that I'm playingthis game and I'm sitting here with these
guys. So I really do wantto thank these guys putting into all the
hard work to get us to youknow where, we're at. I think
everyone who has been just kind ofcome along with us, you know,
the community that's kind of you know, commenting. We love reading your comments,

(01:36:29):
we love seeing all the stuff,and we really appreciate all of you.
Now did oh on that one?It's like the last post that we
did today with Fastos that was soawesome to see everyone's hopping on telling each
other like, this is what I'mworking on, this is an idea I
have. That's that's literally the goal. We want the community here, and

(01:36:50):
it is so exciting to see youguys are you Guys are just awesome.
So it's fun to meet you.People out there that love Marvel Snap as
much as we do in are justso fun to talk to. Like it
really it is enjoyable to get aDM. I'm like, oh, shoot,
what's going on? You know,Like I get like, oh,
I made it into the three thousands, and I'm like, oh man,

(01:37:13):
but get it, dude, youfreaking you're doing it. So it's it's
always so awesome and yeah, it'struly just super fun to just hang out
with these guys and do this.So thank you guys for just supporting us
on YouTube and all the other stufflike yeah, you guys rock. It's
really a fun time. So allright, So until next time, guys

(01:37:34):
uh you will catch you on thenext episode of Cubed, the Marvel Snap
Podcast. Have a good night.We can say bye bye