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July 3, 2024 • 58 mins
We discuss Arishem and the most recent OTA!
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Good evening, and welcome to Cubedthe Marvel Snap Podcast, and welcome to
episode twenty. As always, woo, we are in the we're in double
digits, but then we're in thetwenties now, so that's good. That's
uh. We're almost halfway to halfa year, so that's pretty amazing.

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I know we skipped some episodes hereand there, but like, fifty six
episodes is the goal, and thenafter that we are gonna go for another
fifty six. So as always,I'm joined by To everybody's left is Backchoi
aka Dakota. That's too cute toput the collapse or the quack failing on

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this that the next job for meis to create the soundboard. But to
everybody's right we have Dark Helmet akaDonald. So we're going for fifty six
weeks, not fifty two weeks.Oh you know what? See oh you
know what? One more episode andor a half week? No, no,

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never mind, see twenty six isokay, I'm ath wrong, sorry,
twenty six is half fifty two,so we'll fix it. We're doing
in live, guys, We're doingit live. So this week is a
very exciting week for many people setmyself, I'm not too excited about it,

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but I'm excited for the future ofMarvel Snap. Now. The reason
why everybody is excited is because thenewly released card is Arisham and this is
a very long awaited card by manypeople. And it's because it's a card

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that you know, people think willbe It creates its own art type,
right, it's along the lines ofThanos, along the lines of high evil.
What else can you guys name anythingelse that created its own art type?
Loki Loki? So okay, yeah, So like it's another arc type

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defining card. So let me goahead and read this card for everybody,
and uh, we'll discuss about it. So the card is a seven cost
seven power card. The first sevencosts. Ever, the effect is at
the start of the game, youget plus one max energy, then you
shuffle twelve random cards into your deck. Now, let me go ahead and

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start with you, don how doyou feel about this card overall? You
know, I think it's gonna beinteresting to see how this plays out.
I think in the hands of reallytalented players it's gonna be good because I
really have no idea what they're playing. I think for the rest of us,
for less than skilled players such asmyself. This card is going to

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be a lot of RNG and Ithink I'm gonna lose a lot of cubes
with it, but you know what, it'll be fun to win with it
regardless. Okay, how about yourself, Dakota, Yeah, this card is
just pure chaos. It's been funto play. The rounds that I have
have been very hit or missed.I'm out like fifty to fifty right now,

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which isn't too bad, honestly.I mean, I've been having a
blast just getting random cards, tryingto come up with a play line and
go, Okay, let's try thisand see if it's it's kind of like
a different style of stats meets Okay, let's see what archetypes I remember how
it works. Well, it's beenreally fun, Like I've been enjoying this
deck a lot, Okay. Andthat's what's crazy. It's a It adds

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twelve cards to your deck, sothat means you start off with twenty four.
Now just going for the counter,you know, dark This this makes
dark Hawk a little bit well,a little bit better, right it Actually,
it's funny. It makes dark Hawksstart at forty eight or actually no,
not forty eight. I'm sorry becauseyou already draw four, so you

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know for sure that it's gonna bearound so twenty four forty. It's gonna
be at forty ish at the startif you could play it first turn right.
But on top of that, youknow Dark Hawk decks run the Rock
Throw, what Rock Slide and corg, so you know it's gonna be adding

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a lot of stuff into your deck. They run Black Widow. Some are
even running What's What's the Sentinel?The master Mold, So some people are
even running Master Mold to stop youdrawing cards, which is insane, but
to also counteract that deck. Alot of Air decks are running blob.

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So how do you feel this cardwill shape up the upcoming meta? Let's
go kind of start with you,Dakota. So upcoming men to me,
like this season we're about to walkinto right now with the next week until
we get the new season cards.I think that this one's gonna be something

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that everyone saved their their tokens foror their keys for, because a lot
of people who have like looked intowhat's to come, they see this and
they go, Okay, this iswild. If if you look at what
we passed, right, not alot of people went after is it McCary
macart what's her name again? Yeah, McCary, and then Fostos and yeah
yeah. So it's like, youknow, we had a lot of hit

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and miss with the Eternals. Sowhen it comes down to it, this
one is what everyone's been waiting for. I think that this is going to
have a very big play for maybethe next four days, and then you're
gonna see people kind of drop offon this, getting ready to go into
this next season. It being astaple in the meta, probably not.
It's gonna be a fun thing that'saround for a little bit, and then

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I think everyone's gonna try to getback to stuff that's a lot more competitive,
because that's all this one is.It's just pure chaos and fun.
But as far as trying to climbthe ladder, trying to keep things where
you know you can guarantee what yournext play line is gonna be, this
one's not that. So I don'tthink this could be super relevant for very
long. Okay, so how aboutyourself done? How do you feel if
this will change the meta coming up? You know, I think kind of

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along da Koder's line, I thinkeveryone's gonna really play around and have a
lot of fun with us early.I think once we get a little further
in, there's gonna be a concernabout consistency, right, like, because
you never know what's gonna be inyour deck because you never know how they're
gonna interact consistency, and then Cubeman, right, you're gonna probably boom or

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snap a lot more because of it. I mean, like I have no
idea what the next card is,and all of a sudden, Oh,
look at that card. It's amazing, right. I think you're gonna see
a lot more of that kind ofstuff with it. It's gonna be fun.
There're gonna be some people who arejust really good at playing decks that
are going to do well with it, but I think for most people that's

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gonna drop off quick. On theflip side of that, I think we're
about to see another dark because youknow, it's been a while since we've
done that, So it'll be fun. Yeah, And it's very interesting because
I think they knew exactly when torelease it, right, So at the
end of the season, people aren'treally gonna be playing competitively because they're not

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fighting. You know, there arestill some people that haven't made infinite that
are trying to make infinite. Butfor everybody that is already infinite, they
could just, you know, forlack of a better turned fuck around.
Right, So they're just playing thisdeck, which is you know, I
don't know a lot of people sayingthere might be a competitive build, but
I don't know. We don't knowjust yet. But right now it's all

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fun. Right, So with theend of the season, it's just like,
okay, cool, let them messaround. And then by the time
the season comes again, you know, the new season, maybe Risham won't
be around, maybe it will.Maybe people would have if it is going
to be around, people would havefinalized their lists to see how that would

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be going into the next season.And it's very scary because you're getting twelve
cards out of I don't know howmany total cards are there, do you
guys know it's like over two hundred, right, yeah, I have no
idea on the official number. Okay, yeah, so I want to say
maybe around two hundred. I mightbe you know, don't please fact check

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me, but you know, twelvecards out of two hundred, can you
can you imagine you know, sothat that's what a six percent chance of
getting cards, and I don't know, that's pretty crazy to think about that
something like that could be competitive becauseit's very random. Now, I don't

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dislike the card. I don't likelike you know, Donald was mentioning queue
management, right, the way youdo cube management best is when you know
what's in your deck. With thiscard, you know, you only know
you know half your deck, andwho knows what you're gonna draw. So

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it's a very interesting thing. It'sit makes it very fun, makes it
very frustrating as well, because youknow, you see it work for others,
and I play it does not workfor me. So I'm happy for
right now keeping him just upgraded touh what that first upgrade, just to
not make it gray. Uh doyou guys frame break? Yeah? Do

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you guys see yourself playing this cardin the future at all? Or what's
going on? Not in not oncewe hit the season, I'm sure as
he'll not plan it. I knowmy luck, I'll get like I don't
know, Pixie and Pixie and Pixie, it'll all be pixies, you know,

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because they you know, existed sayingsaying that it's random, means that
there's always a chance. Now,is there a chance to duplicate the card?
Do you know? I have noidea, but knowing this, I
will get just the worst. I'llget a bunch of uh. I'll get

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like four leaders altogether. Again notthe worst, but you can only play
two of them. Yeah, Ihad Enchantress. I picked and threw her
in there, and then during thesame round I had another one pop up
from Irish himself. I was like, oh, shoot, okay, double
not the ongoing. So ain't nobodybeing ongoing in this? So you won't

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be playing it at all at either, Dakota, No, man, I'm
not gonna be playing this card afterthis when I if I'm not infinite,
I'm not gonna be playing this.That's rule one. I don't see trying
to be competitive with this at all. The only reason I'll be playing it
outside of it is if there's amission that needs to be completed. It's
I only use err, which isdefinitely the weekend mission exactly straight up,

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It's not that will probably be fine, but I looked it up. It's
two hundred and seventy three cards arecurrently in the game. Okay, well,
that's not even a six percent nowyou have You're closing to like three
percent, you know, because youalmost have three hundred cards, So that's
insane. You have a three percentchance to have a card that you you

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know, quote unquote need you know. So it's very interesting that this is
an our tape, But I kindof want to discuss the the what is
it? Just like the effect ofthe card, right, because Ersham is
a very big card or a bigcharacter in the Eternals movie, right,

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and where does his effect derived from? Do any of you guys know?
It's definitely not comic based from myopinion, because he's the judge, like
he's supposed to be the one thatdecides if universes are alive or not,
like he decides planet's fate. Soyeah, I don't know where the idea

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of it's like, ah, you'regonna have you know, double the deck
right now. I don't know.That's kind of a random thing. I
feel like Mephisto, if we wereto talk about I think Maphisto having this
effect would make the most sense becausehe's like, you know, the devil
of chaos or the demon of chaos. So it's like I could see that
because this is chaotic. But no, I don't really know where this ideas

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coming from. How about you don't? Do you do you do you think
you have an inkling of where thismight effect might have derived from? Uh?
Not really? I mean the deepdark parts of my brain are like,
uh, he's kind of a creator. I mean he was the earth
was created around him. He hasa bunch of living stuff around him.

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But I got nothing. Now,how many eternals were there? That's the
only thing I'm thinking. Were theretwelve eternals? That wo'd be like,
Okay, I sow I send twelveeternals to every earth. So I'm gonna
give you twelve random cards. Sosee, we didn't add sprite, didn't
make it into this. Well,yeah, they didn't add sprite. They

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didn't add the main one. Theydidn't add ajax icarus ajack. Who else
were they missing that's coming in uhseason two in the second release, because
they're also missing the guy that controlsthe minds of people. So there's ten

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E turtles. Oh, ten Eturtles also be the guy that shoots the
guns from his hands to the laserbeams. The lame is Q. Yeah,
so so there were ten, soyeah, I'm two off, but
uh, I don't know. Yeah, it's it's it's a very interesting card
dynamic. Do you now, Iknow, it just came out. Do

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you guys see them changing the effectat all or do you think it's you
know, it is what it is. I think this one's say for a
while, just because like how chaoticit is. Now, if people start
really developing these kind of consistent decksthat can you know, change the meta,

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I could see them nerving it insome way. I'm not really sure
how. Yeah, but overall Idon't see a whole lot of change into
this card. I think they'll eitherbuffer probably buff a couple of the other
cards from the season before they woulddo anything like this. Oh yeah,
okay, how about yourself, Dakota, Yeah, I agree completely. I

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I don't really see this when gettingtouched. It just it is what it
is. It makes sense the wayit runs. If they changed anything,
I would be surprised. I don'tknow what you would change, well,
I mean because don't they if anything, you know, just being the person
that you know wants to see youknow, competitive cards, do you ever

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think they would like change it tobe more competitive or do you think they
would just keep it like, oh, it's a fun card, right,
because they have made changes in thepast to like cards like they they made
high evolutionary, right because a lotof the normal cards without effects, they
weren't being used as much except inwhat is his name? Patriot decks,

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right, and even now they're notusing Patriot decks anymore. So what they
did was they made high evolutionary andit's like, oh, you know,
these cards are useful now, andit became its own art type. Right.
So I wonder if in the future, like erisham giving less cards,

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maybe you know, let's say sixcards to make it a little bit more
competitive, because K twelve is alot you ask me, I don't know.
I feel like twelve makes it aclown fiesta, and that's why it
won't be as competitive. I thinkthe whole point of it is for it

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to be a grab bag, right, Yeah, I mean the whole point
of this deck is to be like, you never know what you could get.
You could get a bunch of cardsthat you don't have. You can
get a bunch of cards that youdo have. You could get a bunch
of useless cards. You can getcards that just start game breaking, right
you know. Can you imagine justlike because because you could do it one
turn earlier, all of a suddenhaving a galactus right, Oh yeah,

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just like it's just another way toget a colactus out there. So imagine
the chaos. Well, you know, actually going off what you said,
if we were to make it morecompetitive, now you mentioned like maybe six
cards if they did it where hegives you one of each cost so one

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on the way with additional plus oneenergy. Oh my gosh, Now that's
pretty dope. That would be actuallyinteresting because then you know, you get
one of each costs you could playon curve, but you don't know what
cards. Yeah, that would actuallybe pretty good. That'd be cracked.

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Okay, okay, let me takea shot. Then, I think what
you're saying, he adds the eternalsto your deck, that that would actually
be pretty good if if the eturnals were good together. A lot of

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the turnals aren't good together. Solike Fena, she works in a very
specific deck. Now we don't knowabout the rest of the eternals. Well,
what if it's like add six randometernals into your deck. So I
mean that would be cool to havetwo fostos, you know, play one

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on turn two, play one onturn three. Five. You know what
I'm saying. So that is interesting. I actually like both of those ideas
that that would be pretty interesting.Uh but is there anything else you guys
wanna say to finalize how this cardhas affected you on this day of versham

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oh bro. I mean, likeI said, it's been kind of fun
to mess around with just because itis. I'm at that nice like.
No, I'm just happy to behere an infinite I'm just like happy it's
gonna be. I'm gonna play whateverI really feel like this week. You
know, I'm not gonna be attop thousand like mister gg Mark Lee over

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here trying to crack cloud all ofhis stuff. You know, I'm out
there high competiting, and I'm justsitting here, you know, fifty thousand,
watching myself drop lower and lower.I haven't played a ladder match in
I don't know, three weeks.It's been good. Well. The thing
is, you know, like Ilove the game a lot. You know,

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of course it has its downsides,but when you're done with all your
tickets in conquest, you don't wantto play more conquest. You just hop
on the ladder, right and onceI hit the ladder, there's just a
competitiveness in and I'm just like,you know, so, I mean last

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season, I was like content beinglike top fifteen hundred, you know,
or even top twenty five hundred,you know, top half of the people
that are shown. But this season, you know, I started at one
forty something when I reached infinite,and I know I did, I'm gonna
decline because I'm not as good asthose guys up there. I don't have

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the time to be as good.But my goal was to, you know,
just stay top one thousand, andyou know right now I'm keeping to
it. We'll see in the nextweek. Maybe you know, I do
have a tendency to fall out ofyou know, ranking, but we'll see.
So how about yourself? You haveany last thoughts on airstream Dakota.

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No, I'm enjoying it. It'sgonna be fun until the next season.
We gonna be playing this just forthe just for goofing off. Man,
It's a mean deck in a way, it's just enjoyable. It's not the
monotonous like stress cellery. You justgo for it, have a good time
through air Man good Time. Yeah, so make sure you guys get all

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your conquests, you know a goodies. You know you want to get all
those free goodies. You have oneweek to do it. You have one
week to do your uh Infinity tickets. So if you guys have Infinity tickets,
make sure you guys give it atry. Even if you don't like
Conquest, you never know, youcould have a five game winning streak.

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So, uh, before we gointo the next thing, let me see
Okay, Yeah, So the nextthing is we're gonna talk about last week's
OTA. So we've had an OTAlast week on the twenty seventh, and
we had let me see, howmany cards one, two, three,

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four, five, six, sevencards that were changed? So I'm gonna
start with the most, uh,the one that affected me the most.
And uh, this deck, it'sstill probably one of the cards, one
of the decks I'm gonna play inthe upcoming season. But this change affected

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the uh, you know, Angela. So they changed her back to what
she was before. I actually knowthey didn't change her back. I think
she was a two to two beforeand she was getting one, but they
changed her from a two zero andshe got plus two to A two three
to uh cost three power and nowshe only gets plus one for every card

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that's played in the lane. Solet me start with you, Dakoda,
how do you feel about the changeto Angela? I mean, I guess
it makes sense. Everybody is playingthis card. The decks she was in,
she was overpowered and in certain ways, but there was answers to her.
You know, you could shadow kingthis, some other things you could
do. If she got big enough, you could just some shunk chi it.
But if this is all for thesake of balance, okay, fine,

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but I'm gonna miss the power.Oh yeah, definitely. How about
yourself done? Yeah. I meanwe all kind of saw this one coming
in a little way. You know. Once they buffed her, they nerved
her a long time ago, everyonestopped playing her all of a sudden,
They buffed her, put her rightback to what she used to be,
and everyone started playing her all allof a sudden again. So we knew

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they were going to turn around andbe like, you know what, people
are playing this card too much,especially with you know, Hope and uh
Elsa and all these bove cards likeit really did make this card a little
bit more powerful than it really itshould be. Yeah, so it's gonna

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be a good change. I mean, honestly, it's you look at the
deck we played to make the Infinitethe season, and they've nerved like,
I don't know, two or threeof those cards already. You're like,
well, I guess that thick thatI've made it in the first week with
really was a little too powerful becauseall the cards are getting nerve now.

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Yeah. So, and that's thething, you know, at least they
made it still playable, right.The best part of it is it's easy
to keep her under shang chi range, where if you get her to nine,
you're just like, okay, ifdon't play any more cards or you
know, you cap that lane rightthen and there. I think the problem
when she was a two zero isyou play five cards on her, especially

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when you're running what's her name,Kitty Pride, you're probably playing two three
cards on a turn on you knowAngela. So's it's it was harder to
keep her on under shang chi range. Now you know, you play six
cards, you're still safe. AndI think I think it's a good thing.

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At least she's still playable. Butshe's not broken now to find a
deck that she will work consistently in, it's very hit or miss right now,
especially with this meta. But Ido enjoy playing an Angela deck,
So that's probably what I'm gonna beplaying to Infinite next season. That was

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one of the questions I was gonnaask you guys, Do you guys have
any inklings on what deck you willbe playing to Infinite next season? Are
trying to play with I'm gonna playwhatever you're playing and hope for the best.
I think that's that's what they doevery season, some seas to work

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some seasons, doesn't you know?I just follow our you know, amazing
number one snapper of this Cube group, the man, the myth, the
legend, the luckiest player I've everseen in my life. Oh you know,
I just likes a fist pump andpissed people off. You know,
the number one in our hearts,number one thousand on the letter G Did

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you markle? Baby? Let's go? Man? You had quite a quite
a bit of callbacks there. Howabout you, Decoda, do you have
any inkling on what you might playon the ladder? Whatever you're playing?
Baby? Another vibe, Baby,let's go. No, I've torn because

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this season I most of my clientsstarted with Blink, the Blink deck,
the one with Magneto. Oh yeah, Olk Red Hulk got a little bit
of a nerve, so he's notgonna have as big of a staple in
that deck as he did. He'sstill gonna be forced to be reckoned with,
but it's not probably gonna run assmooth, so we'll see. I
love that deck. I think that'sone of the best ones that I can
just hop on and have fun nomatter what, even they having fun,

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just like hopping on there and goofingoff with it. So it's been it's
been fun playing that. Shout outto Sully, one of our followers.
He sent something over that looks likea good one. Uh, it looks
like an answer to Airshim, SoI'll probably be playing that. It's basically
a black Hawk deck with Ronan tryingto just counter what's what's to play right

(27:21):
now, So I wouldn't mind tryingthat again. Every meta changes stuff,
so who knows what we're gonna stepinto once we get the new cards.
But yeah, probably the two linesthat we go off of, Yeah,
we'll discuss those two new cards releasingnext week. But yeah, I mean,
I think it's a really cool deckthat Sully did. This. It

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was Sully, right, what's thatHis name was Sully? Yeah, it's
uh, it's it's be blessed.Let me, let me, I'll put
his actual name up, so wantsso like Stelly's So savage is what he
has on his handle. Yeah,like that. That's a really cool,

(28:03):
cool deck that he made. ButI wonder if it's going to be on
the ladder, you know, usefulon the ladder, because you know,
we're talking about how ershim's fun rightnow? Would they use it on the
ladder to try and get infinite?That's the question. So you're right,
So we'll see about that and we'llcontinue on with the next card. That
was uh, some call it nerve, I you know, but most call

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it buff. He did lose power, but he he lost a cost,
and he's much more useful at hiscost now. So his we're talking about
hercules. So his old cost wasfore cost and seven power, but now
he is a three cost four power. So he did lose three power,
but uh, he's more useful now. In my opinion, I've been seeing

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a lot of move decks in thepast week or so, and you know,
with a lot of people not playingkill Monger, a lot of more
people are running the human Torch.Now, if destroy becomes more relevant,
I know they're going to be playingmore Dagger, more Vulture, more what

(29:21):
is it? The multiple men?But how do you feel about this change,
Dakota? I'm for it. Ithink that move has been a very
just kind of slept on thing becauseit had a few moves. But it's
like, okay, at the end, we're going to move left every day,
move left. You know, ifyou can you can counter that.
You pretty much can can win that. No problem. This is going to

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move things around to where you haveto kind of guess your next opponent's move.
And the thing is, you're right. I mean, kill Monger can
answer the human torch issue. Butif they're bringing in Dagger and they're bringing
these other cards, this is gonnabe something to to Really, you have
to build up quick to catch upto it, otherwise you're going to lose

(30:02):
the lanes that they're contesting. Ialso, I also want to reiterate that
they also even though they did havea human Torch, they also played Falcon
and Beast in it, so theystayed not getting priority. So kill Monger
would have to be very you know, you have to play a really risky

(30:26):
kill Monger. I hope it's stillthere, but it was very interesting.
So how about yourself, don howdo you feel about the change to this
card? Hopefully we'll actually see moreplay with it. It sounds like you
have on the ladder. Honestly,I haven't seen this card since it came
out. The only reason I knowit's in my deck is because you know,

(30:48):
I'm collecting complete Otherwise I would haveno idea it was there. That's
how many times I've played this cardand where I've played it, And you
know, it's one of those thingswhere it's like, oh, yeah,
I do have that card, don'tI? And they changed it. So
the best six thousand tokens ever spentin my life, You know, these

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cards? I do want to gomess around with Move a little bit more.
Obviously Move tends to be a littlebit more big brain in order to
get it really to work. Sohopefully this week come when I find some
time mess around with it, seewhat I feel. Overall, I don't
see this as a huge It's notlike everyone's gonna go out and start playing

(31:32):
move again. And that's the thing. I'm a very big fan of Move.
When I first started the game,I know there was Molt that was
like the only guy playing Move,But since then they've created a lot of
diversity in move, which is reallycool. The one that I like to

(31:52):
play, though, was mainly likenot the typical move right. It's like
angela hit move where like you're playingVision, you're playing Jeff, you're playing
Nocturn right before or Silk. Itwas like the silky smooth one where you
didn't really play iron Fists. Youdidn't play Cloak and Dagger. You didn't

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you know, those are the typicalmove on reveal moves. I like the
move that it didn't have effects becausethen it couldn't be stopped by Cosmo,
it couldn't be stopped by the locations, so it was it was a very
it's a very different type of move. But I'm glad there's actually the other
move type is coming up, andit's it's boosting a lot of power.

(32:39):
I mean, especially human torch numbers, where some people are doing human torch
move into tribunal and winning games,which is it's pretty insane to see.
So now the next card we havewait, damn asks wait yeah, yeah,
sorry, the next car do wehave? Is? Uh? I

(33:01):
was like, did I show thiscard ready? Kingpin? So they change
Kingpin from a two to three toa one two, and his effect stayed
the same. When an enemy cardmoves here, afflict it with negative two
power. Now let me start withyou, don how do you feel about
the change to this card. Ikind of like this, especially since you

(33:25):
know you were talking about the factthat you were playing these half move decks.
You know you plan to angela,you move the card out and do
that kind of thing. This doeshelp with some of that. The fact
that it's a one to two meansthat you're not making that huge commitment to
put it down there. I mean, in reality, if it hits one

(33:45):
card that's moved out right, Imean, it's basically a one to four,
which is not too bad of astat line if you think about it.
You don't have to make as bigof a commitment to the kingpin as
you used to. Again, they'renot playing a lot of move either way,
move them move my cards. ButI do like that it's a little

(34:07):
bit easier to play on the field. I like that. I like how
you said, you know, youdon't have to make a commitment to play
this card, And that's very truebecause when you played it before, when
it was a well it was athree powered card, it was a two
powered card, it was quite acommitment, right, because there's so many

(34:30):
good cards to play at two oreven later in the game. Right,
So if you for you to say, reserve two energy just to play Kingpin
later on, it was just kindof detrimental because you'll be like, well,
they see it, it's on thefield, so they know I'm gonna
either move it or they can't movethere, or they're gonna have to make

(34:51):
a move somewhere else. So youdidn't you didn't leave you with many options
because it leaves you open to beinglike, oky, yeah, they're gonna
play Magneto. So it's cool thatthey did make it a one cost where
it's less detrimental to what you havein your hand. Now you could play
Kingpin with another card and you know, hopefully get some kind of negative power

(35:15):
on a card before they can doanything about it. So how about yourself,
to God, how do you feelabout the change shit this card?
I like it. I think thatit's nice to have something that it's not
gonna contest with Craven. Now Idon't have to go as like one of
the other I can't. Now Ican have both in the deck and decide
how I want to go from there. You know, I think this is

(35:37):
a smart move to bring it down. It's yet to be overpowered. I've
yet to come across this yet whereit's like, okay, here, we
got Kingpin here, and it's like, if I start seeing them back to
back, I'll probably start hating thiscard. But you know, there's always
kill Munga's Baby, yep, killMungu's chung as we can just bring the
destroy back, kill Mungo Kong byBye. I don't think so, but

(35:59):
yeah, also a beautiful variant lovethe Venom Mite a beautiful I agree with
that. You know now that itcould be kill Monger, that that means
they have to be more wary aboutwhere they play the card when they play
the card, So there's a lotof factors that they kind of put into

(36:20):
making it a one cost But Ifeel I think ideally it was for the
benefit of the move package, right, So is it also does it only
do opponents cards. Yeah, it'sonly opponent cards. So it's just like
you get the maximum effect for movingyour cards, but moving another person's card

(36:40):
or your opponent's cards is really detrimentalfor them. So that's really cool.
Now, the next card we haveis Miles Morales spider Man. The only
thing that they change about this cardis they gave it a power, so
it went from a four to fiveto a four to six. Let's start
with you, decoda. How doyou feel about the car on the change
on this? For it? Man, I've said it once, I've said

(37:04):
a thousand times. We are inthe inflation period of power and Marvel Snaps.
Everything is going up to just contestand stay relevant. You know,
I'm for it all right? Howabout you done? I mean this the
last couple of cards really says alot about where Marvel Snap is right,
or what decks are being played andwhat decks aren't being played. The simple

(37:28):
fact that we have three move decksthat are becoming getting buffed, or three
move cards in a move deck thatere being buffed, says that nobody's playing
these cards right now, and theyreally do want to try and make this
a little bit more competitive with what'sgoing on. So hopefully these changes will
kind of open up another archetype thatpeople haven't been playing for a while,

(37:55):
just to kind of make them meta little well I'm more competitive with or
more yeah, yeah, so likemore versatile where it's just not like one
deck that's raigning supreme, right ifI think that's what I'm catching on.

(38:15):
Yeah, and I agree with that. You know, it's cool that they
are willing to do that, especiallyso soon because we know that they are
buffing move cards because is it AugustI think August season pass is. Uh.
They're creating a new arc type ofcards and it's gonna be an activate

(38:37):
you know, it's not on reveal, it's an activate card, and we
don't know too much about it yet, but you know, we know that
a lot of those cards are goingto be move cards because it's going to
be the Spider Man season or whatever. So it's gonna be interesting they're probably
doing. You know, luckily weget these data mine leaks, so we

(38:58):
know. But like when we seethese cards, imagine if we didn't have
that in mind, like why arethey changing move you know? So it's
it's a nice surprise or you know, planned surprise to know that they're getting
these cards ready to be played withcards in the next coming months and they're
doing their due diligence to make sure, Okay, is it working in the

(39:19):
meta right now? Right? Becauseyou don't want to release a card or
like buff a card and then becomesbroken once the other things are being released.
The good thing about the Miles Moralescard is he's taken care of by
Mobius, which it's really it's areally I used to play Miles Morale Is
a lot because I was playing thatmove deck and I was like, oh,

(39:40):
one five, it was great.I mean, now it's a one
six, but I'm just so scaredof Mobius still. So Mobius is like
is like every everywhere that you don'texpect him to be. So. Uh
So, the next card that theybuffed was a high evolutionary and I don't

(40:06):
know why they did this, butmaybe you guys can enlighten me more.
The only thing they did to toto buff high Evolutionaries they gave him more
power, so he went from afour to four to a four to six.
Enlighten me done. I feel likeeven though this was in a number

(40:27):
of decks. It probably never gotplayed. It really felt like a dead
draw overall. So I think thisjust kind of gives you more options to
put a little more power in there. Though it's not like that deck really
needed that much more power. Butapparently, you know, he was just
a weakling who got beat up bya raccoon and so they needed to buff

(40:51):
him up two points. All right, have a unicode. How do you
feel about it? Yeah? Heevolved. Man, he's doing his thing.
He's going up to contest everyone else. I agree with don I think
that he just when we've ever playedthis, he was never the one like,
okay, great, I can playhigh evolutionary. Damn it, I
hate this card. Oh yeah,I'm glad that they're giving him little something.

(41:14):
So it's some power to contest something. So I'm for it. Yeah,
it's pretty funny, I mean,especially with high evolutionary decks. Uh,
you top deck this card and you'rejust like you, right, you're
just like, well, I guessI'm losing or when uh what is it's
a card brings down a card?It brings down high evolutionary. Here you're

(41:34):
like, oh, man, theworst card in my hand. So I
guess you know, I see thatwhere they give it two more power,
it could contest some lanes. Now, I don't know like this card adding
effects to other cards. It isstrong, but I feel that like they
should do a little bit more forthis card so that it's not such a

(41:59):
dead card in your hand. Evenat four to six it's pretty dead.
I feel like if it was athree six, I'd be happy. What
do you guys think? Oh,three six is a crazy stat line though,
right, Like, I mean,how many how many three cost cards

(42:20):
actually have a six cost? Ithink let's see, let me let me
look you that up real quick,because I think three five, let's see
energy eight you know one. Yeah, so the highest we have is three
eight, three seven. Yeah,there's no three six at all. So

(42:42):
everything else is like three five isthe We have quite a bit of three
fives, so the only outliers areGladiator and sword Master. Yeah. So
it gives you a little bit morewith no real downside, you know,
because if you're if you have toplay this is it is the only thing
you can play on that turn.Yeah, then well you're probably not in

(43:04):
a good anyway because typically you wantto save energy, which means are going
to play it on five. Itjust makes it slightly more appealing when you
get those random oh well this cardpopped up here. I think that's all
that really is. Just I don'tknow why they decided to because I don't
read anything as far as the OTAinformation. I just kind of, you

(43:30):
know, wait for you guys tokill me and then try to talk about
it on the fly. Yeah.I think you nailed it though, you
know, like it's less of adead draw in your hand, so you're
able to not feel so bad usingthe four energy instead of like skipping it
into Sunspot. Right, you skipit into Sunspot, you get that four

(43:52):
in it because he was a fourfour, So it's just like you want
to play a four four, youwant to go into Sunspot. So you're
like, oh, just now youactually have to decide, oh do I
have Sunspot out? If I haveSunspot is uh misty night out? You
know, so you have a lotof things you could think of now,
and if it doesn't work, youjust play high evolutionary, which is still

(44:13):
bad. But uh, the nextcard we have, am I skipping over
you decode today? I ask you? You asked me kind of about it.
I mean the double down again.It's just it is what it is.
I don't I don't see playing ittoo much. But I agree with
what you said, like the theidea of sun Spot and everything else,
Like you really if you got himstill at six, you're looking at it

(44:37):
saying I'd rather use that energy towardsmy other guys, Like I can go
ahead and have them negative a fewguys here and there. With Cyclops,
I can Misty Night. I cannow my my chee hoole's dropping down,
like it gives you a little bitmore thinking. See, I didn't even
yeah, I didn't even realize Cyclops. See cause say, if you have
Sunspot, Misty Night and Cyclops onthe field already, like I'm skipping that

(45:01):
four energy you know, or thatsix energy because Cyclops gives you minus two,
which is a plus two on yourside. You get four from uh
Sunspot, and then you get thatextra one from Missy Night. That's seven
right there. Yeah, Like ifyou get that. I can't remember the
name of it, but it's likeguest domain is if you put something there,

(45:21):
you get plus two energy. Think, and then there's the other one,
which like the first card you playhere dies like, where a high
evolutionary you use him? You hada good time, Yes, you don't
feel too bad, no matter what. That'd be pretty funny, all right.
So the next card that they buffedwas Nick Fury. Now this is

(45:47):
something that you know, I'm nottoo sure what they have planned, but
I don't know. I'll just readit. So it went from a four
five to four six. The effectdidn't change. It's on reveal add three
round six cost cards to your hand. Now, how do you feel about
this change to Tonick Fury? Dakotatheir their following suit with the everything's getting

(46:10):
a little bit more power to contest. He's got the same status as high
evolutionary. So yeah, I thinkthis just trying to raise the bar on
power on most cards. And I'mguessing this one getting played too often,
which is also why a little morepowerful get today playing the news. There's
one deck out there that utilizes NickFury. Agent Colson, I have been

(46:37):
seeing him, so I'm like,okay, maybe this was a chance to
say, let's put some some additionalon Nick Fury just to get him out
there more often. Okay, Ijust want to go real quick before we
go into your thoughts on it,don what do you think about before?

(47:01):
Like we we discussed your end onI feel like this car uh Nick Fury,
What do you feel? How doyou feel about the effect of the
card? Like it adds three randomsix cards to your six cost cards to
your hand? How do you guysfeel about that? I mean, how

(47:22):
often do you actually need those sixcost cards? Right? Yeah? I
mean the only reason you would probablyplay this is get those extra cards to
throw Loki out, to change theminto something cheaper that your opponents, right,
Like, I think that's probably whatit would be. How would you

(47:42):
mean, Yeah, you have achance to get some cool sop. Yeah,
but then again, you got achance to get apocalypse, a six
six apocalypse that is just a waste. How would you feel if it was
add three shield cards to your hand? So like mocking Bird, mocking Bird,

(48:04):
there's like there's Quinn Jet, there'suh all those ones. Yeah it
escapes me. But there's like therethere are shield cards like Maria Hill.
There's another one a Coulson, YeahColson. Now, but don't they just
give you more random cards? Yeah? So here add these cards in your

(48:28):
hand, they give you more randomcards. Take more later. And what's
because it's crazy for for Nick Furyto add like three, like three random
six. You can't play all thesesix costs. That's why I feel like
it's not getting played right now.Right they should be Avenger cards. Hmmm,
what if Avenger or Shield? Yeah, so it's like, okay,

(48:52):
cool, now we got Iron ManCaptain America. You're dropping in some stuff
like that. That would make senseSpider Man. But I mean, the
only way would work is not thatthey go to your hand like you have
too random either Shield or or aVender's cards. It's that he goes back
up to a five, right,Yeah, and it's just randomly somewhere almost

(49:14):
like a Hello effect, but justthrows them down randomly maybe something like that.
But that's a whole difference shift tothis card. It is. But
then that's the thing, right,like, even even Loki decks Nick Fury
is not being useful because you know, at four you want to play Loki.

(49:37):
You don't want to play Nick Fury. So he ends up becoming a
really dead card in any type ofdeck right now, But how do you
feel about them adding a power tomDon? Like I said, it doesn't
change a whole lot I think theonly thing that would get me to really
play this card more often is ifyou had Samuel Jackson saying motherfucker every time,

(50:02):
and then that the opponent could hearyou like like it just it's so
that they hear it every time,even if it's muted, it's just it's
out loud. It's at a hundreddecibels, so everyone around them. In
that case, I play this card. That's that's my social how to fix
this in reality? And then youknow what it would be the ultimate meme

(50:25):
card that I would play in everydeck? Really what what deck would that
work? You know, it wouldbe funny if there was a card that
gave you like two seconds to leavea voice memo that you're plays to your
opponent. Oh my god, ithas to be a terrible card though,

(50:47):
like it's like it's a bad card. I'll let you record a two seconds
like, oh, you're bound rightnow, and then when you play it,
it just says that ship. Thatwould be so funny, give them
the hawk, so funny you hearthe second dinner, This is genius.

(51:10):
Listen, Mark's been in fact,baby oh man. All right. So
the next card that we had changedwas an old favorite of you know everybody,
uh, and an old you knowNemesis for Everybody, which was Aliath,

(51:30):
which uh, they kind of justgave him two power, so he
oops. He still does the samething where you know, he removes the
text from all unrevealed enemy cards uhthat are played in the location. But
it's so funny because I always forgetabout this card still because uh, ever

(51:53):
since they changed his effect that hedoesn't destroy them, like I haven't really
been using him. But now withthe change, he becomes more usable and
like his power is something to bescared of, because if he can't destroy
the card, then he should atleast be able to contest it. So

(52:15):
that's that's probably a good thing withthe change. How do you feel about
this changed on? It's a goodthing. Obviously. Him having more power
is always nice. I think afterit got nerved into oblivion time and time
and time again, I mean theybeat it like a dead horse. It

(52:38):
really at the end of the day. I've played it a couple of times.
There's a couple of decks that I'vekind of messed around with, but
I don't see this really changing myuse of this card. Oh Okay,
how about yourself, Dakota. Ilove this card. Oh this card.

(52:58):
I'm glad that it's to a tennow because you know there's a few TEXTA
can run pretty smooth with this.I mean I saw, okay, So
when I first was mess around withthe Aerostrom, I had him in here
just because I got a plus oneright energy, and it was fun to
throw him out. And then Iwas I happened to have a scar.
I was like, all right,cool, so now I already got this

(53:20):
is going good. And yeah,I love this ability. I wish it
was because that was just so funof his destroying like man, that was
sober powered. But those were thedays, I'll tell you. But yeah,
I love this card all for it. Man, make it as twelve.
And that's the thing. I feellike they kind of neutered this card

(53:43):
just because it doesn't feel like comicaccurate anymore, right, or show MCU
accurate, right, because he usedto destroy anything in its path, and
you know, so shout out toSofa King two six. He said,
I used to love it. Yeah, people used to love the card,
right, So they kind of nervedhim into oblivion where it's just like he

(54:07):
doesn't even resemble who he is inthe show anymore in the show, in
the comics, So it kind ofsucks. I hope they could do something
or you know, find a waywhere he can get his his ability back,
even if it's like destroy the highestpowered unrevealed card. I don't know,

(54:31):
you know, so in the lane, not anywhere, you know,
just like in the lane, atleast it would. It's kind of like,
you know, Cannonball, right,Cannonball targets the highest So it's like
so it's like, you know,maybe they now that we have and he's

(54:53):
a five cost. He's a fivecost with eight power, so that means
you could play something else alongside him. You could play a demon alongside him.
So that that's that's the crazy part. So maybe they'll change him back,
but for now it is what itis. At least he has some
power to contest with the cards thathe's stopping the effect of instead of fully

(55:19):
destroying on. So I don't know, all right, So let's see.
That was the end of it.So that was the end of the OTA
overall. I feel like we didn'tget a whole lot of anything. Yeah,
and Sofa King did say, doessay move decks? Are about to
be sexy and uh so we didcover Airsham at the very beginning. Uh

(55:43):
sorry, Uh, I know itis kind of later in the show,
but check out the YouTube and liketomorrow we talked about Airsham. Uh.
Well with that, is there anythingelse you guys would like to add before
we end the show? Just thanksagain for everyone haha for getting us the

(56:07):
three hundred followers on Instagram. Ireally appreciate you guys. We're having a
lot of fun doing this. Youknow, people are around or not.
I think you guys are just kindof spend some time, even with my
internet issues, and I really likethat. But I mean it like that.

(56:28):
So I love you guys, anduh, thank you everyone. Okay,
straight up, I doubled down,like, thank you guys for just
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we do, just goof off andtalk about this game that we all love
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(56:50):
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(57:13):
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