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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey guys, and welcome to another episode of Cube the
Marvel Snap Podcast. As you can see, tonight, instead of
the Cube Trio, we are doing a duo tonight, and
that is because Don has life to do. I mean
we've had life for the past, we've had life for
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the past a couple of weeks. I know this is
becoming more apparent, but yeah, life happens and things go awry.
But you know we're gonna try and pump these out
as soon as we can do this, even if it's
for half an hour. You know, I always say it's
gonna be a short episode, but you know we tend
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to go quite long. I always tell that to the guys,
so I know, you know, life, So tonight I have
with me as always or you know, I know he
was a couple, but you know, not too far back.
CHOI aka Dakota, and as always, I am your host,
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Mark Lee.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I was just like, ye, all right, So tonight we're
gonna go over the start of this season because I
think we finished off last season.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
If I'm I'm not mistaken, we went over the ota
that that happened.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
But we haven't got into this new season, and I
know we're what two weeks in.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
But there's still a lot to talk about.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
You know, uh with this season.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I mean there's pretty good cards that have come out
that are worth I mean, almost every card that's come
out is worth the talk. So we'll go ahead and
start with the Season Pass card. So the Season Pass
card is Symbiote Spider Man, and he is a four
call six power Activate card. All right, so he's merged
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with your lowest cost card. Here with this copy its
text like it just revealed. Now, first I want to
talk about it was a ghost. First, I want to
talk about Activate with you, U Dakota. So Activate is
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basically like an on reveal, except on reveal is right
when it's played. Activate you can activate at any time
of the turn. Now, you can't activate it the turn
you play it, but it goes in chronological order or
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order of operations, right, So you could play a card
then activate the activate card. You could activate the card
then play the card that way, you know, so it
goes in those order of operations that you do. The
order now it's not like move anymore where move that
used to happen as well, but now move takes priority
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and happens first and then everything else that you did
will happen. So how do you feel about this new
mechanic in the game.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I'm excited to see where it goes. This card itself
has been really funny because it brings out a whole
new style of you gotta think of what the opponent
can do after the card is played.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Okay, so like if you.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
See this in a lane in its own, you're gonna go, fuck,
it's gonna be Galactus. I gotta make sure I have
enough power to compensate with this one, and then they
might throw it down a nimrod the next turn.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
You go, oh, so they don't care about this lane,
and then they're gonna destroy that.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
So I think that the idea of activate is a
really awesome concept because we're not pigeonholed to just on
reveal ongoing or just the basic text. There's a lot
more strategic play getting into the game now, and I'm
really excited to see just what cards they decide is
going to be activated as well as you know this
new archetype building in.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
But I'm always a fan of anything Symbio related.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
You already know that, So I'm pumped about Cymbiot Spider
Man showing up in the game Blacksmooth, Spider, Secret Wars
all that goodness like that.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I am pumped for this, so you know, I'm I'm
kind of excited.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
So the thing about activate is because you know there
is Cosmo. It could get around Cosmo, now, it could.
It's not enchantrissable, it's not roguable, you know, so it's
not like anything can stop it. So right now, Cymbiote
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Spider Man is the only one that is an Activate card.
I know we have two more I believe coming out
this season, which is in Aranya. And what's the other
Spider Man, the the one with the vest I forgot
his name? Riley Reid or whatnot?
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Are you talking about the Scarlet Spider?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Scarlet Spider? But what's this great?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Is it? Riley Reidy reads a full star?
Speaker 5 (05:18):
What? Now? I don't think it's that.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
I don't think it's I remember that's where I saw
a meme with this name.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Why do I know this name? Oh man?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I forgot what is the Scarlet Spider's name?
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Oh my gosh, dude.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
For some reason, I was like, why is that Ben Riley?
Speaker 5 (05:57):
We're never gonna forget this news name.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
From ll Bean Riley.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Alright, so Scarlet Spider Man, so wow, he's the other
activate card.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
The ones that they are thinking of changing to activate
cards are hell Cow and what's that girl that allows
once to cost nothing? Oh well, black Swan black Swan,
So they're thinking about those two cards to become activate.
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I like the thoughts of that. I like how you'll
be able to play hell Cow without a consequence until
you want the consequence, right. I like how you could
play black Swan and she'd be like, okay, cool, turn
three you can play her down. I can wait till
turn six. You don't have to be like okay, well
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I have to play her turn five right, so at
least now, but if you draw her, you can't play
her turn five and expect her to activate, which sucks.
You know, if you top deck that card, it's not
gonna be useful to you. So there are downsides to it.
But I do like how they're looking into other ways
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of making the game a bit more competitive. Cosmo can't
stop everything right every on reveal Now they added this
new mechanic, so it's something people have to think about.
They see a activate card fall down, you'd be like Okay,
when are they going to activate this? So it's it's
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it's another thing to think about, and it's pretty awesome
if you ask me. I mean, Simbioe Spider Man is
the only one in the game right now, and he's
taking the game by storm. I haven't used him as
much because you know, I do like particular types of decks,
and Symbiote Spider Man is a four cost, right, so
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that means you play if you don't play him on
four and you play him on five, you could only
activate him on turn six, right, So if you don't
play on one, turn four, it makes it kind of clunky.
So but if you do play on turn four, you
could juke the opponent like is he gonna play turn five?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Is he gonna activate turn six?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
But so that's the only thing that's a problem with
Symbiot Spider Man. I would like activate cards to be
in the mid range where it's like turn three you
could play them, and I wouldn't mind Symbiote Spider Man
going down in power just so you could be usable more.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Yeah, I'm cool with that.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I think that you're right as far as it's kind
of hard to always get him.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Out on turn four. But on the same side, I mean,
he he's not the he should never be just the
end all, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Like he Yeah, in most of the decks that you
see him in, he's got a lot of like key components,
but without him, the deck still runs fine.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Maybe the power where he's at, in my opinion, is
kind of its own way to keep him in check.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I mean it also it's also with his ability, right,
his ability's pretty good. Oh yeah, play him alone with
a card that you want to reactivate, then it's basically
a no brainer. But i'd the only thing is I
like options. I like, but I can see why it
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could be overpowered in that way, Like if he was
a three three, I feel like it wouldn't be too bad,
but then it could kind of go awry where.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
You're just like insane.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, I mean, so I can see where it is,
you know. It's just it's tough when you're playing a
deck like I said, you drop him turn five and
it's just like, well, I either play this and one cost,
which typically you don't have one cost. I don't know,
I don't really run somebo spy ron so I don't know,
maybe you do. Uh So it's a really good card,
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really good card. I'm glad it's in the game. Have
you ever have you played tested this card?
Speaker 4 (10:36):
So today, especially because I needed to get my weekend
missions done, I've been messing with a few different things.
A silver Sable deck, the Bounce one. I was trying
that for a little bit just to see how that
was going. Didn't like it, so that's never really been
my archetype that I enjoy. Bounce is just not fun
for me. So you already know how addicked I am
to Galactis. I kind of switched things around and tried
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a Galactus style deck, and I mean, in reality, it's
a long black panther deck with Galactus in it, so
it's not like this hell Mary play line. And it's
fun because you also have magic in there and you
can totally juke people and be like I'm setting up
this long play and then you're like, Gala like this bitch.
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I mean, I like it. It's been fun the decks that
I've played it in. For sure, the Bounce was the
least favorite of mine. But I am curious to see
what other stuff you can do with this card as
far as activating. Taking that on reveal effect, it's pretty dope.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
And that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You don't even have to just take on reveals. You
can take ongoings.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
You could take.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Just a blank text, blank text. I was just like,
what else do you take? Yeah, so you could you
could take uh uh. They usually call it vanilla cards
and uyio. Vanilla cards don't have effects, right, so if
you if you take that, it could be buffed by
what's his name?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Uh Iron No, no, Patriot. It could be buff by Patriot.
So it's it's pretty cool effect that it just copies
the text. So it's it's an all around good card
mm hm. And you know, you could slaughter it into
almost any deck because who doesn't want to do? You know,
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do have another text of the same card, right, I
mean this is basically what iron Lad is. It's just
you have to think about playing it and activating it,
and you know exactly which card you're gonna copy because
you play it on that you know.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
So it is a little bit of like you gotta
think before you do it. The first time I did it,
I'm like, okay, activate play the card.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I stay assuming.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Yeah, yeah, the stakes were made. That was a very
disappointing thing after that. But yeah, the the that Silver
Surfer deck that I made was all the play lines
of Silver Surfer without Silver Surfer.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
It was a gwyinpool style. So I threw down.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Gwen, then I activated, and then I absorbing manned and
my what's it?
Speaker 5 (13:20):
My Sebastian Shaw was like a twenty three.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
My brood was almost out of twelve, and I was like, bro,
this is ridiculous, Like it was really fun just to
have this stupid, you know, stat stick and then these
massive broods and the guy that was playing did the
what is it the heimdel.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Oh yeah, I was like, yeah, I was shocked too.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Bro. I didn't see that coming either.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Oh man, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Well along, you just mentioned the next card that we're
going to talk about. But along with Simbio Spider Man,
the first Spotlight card was Silver Sable. Now Silver Sable
is a one cost, one power on revealed card and
you steal two power from the top card of your
opponent's deck. Now, I don't know why I keep going
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through that Ghost one.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
It just reminds me.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Now this card, it's not bad, and I wouldn't say
it's a great card. It's a useful card, especially in
decks that you want to play that negative effect on, right,
it's yeah, because I believe in those decks they don't
really have a one cost card to play, so not really. Yeah,
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so it's very useful. And like say, if you get
this turn two, three, four, you know, if you don't
have enough energy, it's it's nice to have something to play,
you know, to cover that energy cost where it's just
like if you have a two costs on turn three,
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like what's his name, Scorpion, you can play Scorpions and
Silver Sable. Right, So it's just a nice little energy
saver card that you could play in those ajax stacks. So,
so what are your thoughts on Silver Sable.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
She's got a lot of disrupt capabilities. If she nails
that Deadpool card, it's done. She hits iron Man, it's
a hard way to get that back unless you have
something to buff him up. It's disrupt capabilities. It's in
my opinion, becoming one of the best one cost cards
next to Nebula. This card is absolutely cracked all the
times I've used her. And then you follow up with
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Cassandra Nova. I'm telling you, man like being able to
hit these two down. If you didn't get her on one,
you hitting her on two.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Whatever. This card's pretty fun, man.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I've seen a lot of rage quits just from this
card alone.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
We have a couple of.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Guys in our alliance that are obsessed with the bounce
style with her, the Ajax mods and all that, And
I mean the numbers that they put out, they are
crazy high with the Ajax capability. If you like that toxic,
you like that clog, this car can really just ruin
your opponent's day.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
So I like this card.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah, I mean it's a really good toxic card. The
only thing is is, like with any negative deck, the
bane of.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Their existence Louke Cage yep.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
So, I mean I've seen some people teck it in
just because Silver Sable has been going out, you know,
heavy out the box right or out the gate, and
it's just like you play it turn one, You're just
like hopefully, you know, we made a meme on this,
but it's just like hopefully the card it hit.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I don't need.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
But I mean, how many cards, how many cards in
your deck are cards you don't need? I mean like
you basically hand pick almost every card, every card you want,
except if you're playing Airsham, right, Yeah, so you hand
picked those cards and you're like, Okay, this is very useful.
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But when Silver Stable you see that pop up on
the field, you're just like, well, hopefully that can do
without the next card, because I mean, it's gotten to
the point where I'm just like, dude, should I just
Teken a Luke Cage? Maybe I should, you.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Know, because yeah, it's everywhere.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, because I made that deck. I mean, I think
two months ago the all the one I golded out.
That one had Luke Cage, but it also had Shadow King,
and with the change to Shadow King, I don't even
know how good that deck would be anymore because Luke
Cage was supposed to counter shadow shadow King, but it
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doesn't anymore.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
M I mean, it's cracked.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
It's really I think, becoming a very strong archetype that
I'm I haven't seen too much of the symbiote hit
Silver Sable honestly, but you know that would be that
wouldn't be a terrible thing to do.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
You can throw those together. I could see that being
even more disgusting.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Like I said, Silver Symbiote Spider Man. You could toss
them into any deck and just it could improve it,
you know. Oh yes, you could double an effect, which
is insane. You could basically negative for the next card
your opponent draws.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
M hm.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
So oh yeah, I mean again, like the guys on
Our Alliance, Man, they were thrown in that bounce, they
were pulling it back doing it again. I mean you
could see sometimes that card at like almost twelve. By
the time they were done messing with it, they got
goose out there. So no, nothing can really contest with that.
It's like, oh my gosh, it's disgusting. What are you
doing to these people?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
You freaking play this and then you play Falcon, and
then you play this on the Falcon lane and then
Beast it up, and then you play that and then
Falcon again, and then by that time, man.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Yeah, you just think about if you can do black
Swan activate on top all that nonsense. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
So that'd be crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Or you could also Silver or what is it, Symbiote
Spider Man, the Falcon again or the Beast m h.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
That's just insane.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
So yeah, those types of decks definitely annoying, but It's crazy, man,
It's crazy that the thought the thought process that goes
into that kind of stuff, you know, deck building and whatnot.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
So yeah, oh my boy, Sully, Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
So hopefully when they make the change to black Swan
and make her an activate, hopefully she sees more play
because I believe you know, in Bounce Deck, she's going
to be killer. Now the next card? Are we only
on the first week?
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Shoot, I was just like, what's the next card?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Oh? Yeah, the next card already is Madam Web. So
we're coming into the second week tomorrow, and let me
just go ahead and read what Madam Web does for everybody.
So Madam Web, let me move this over, make you
a look on nice all right. So Madam Web is
an ongoing card. She's a two costs one power. You
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can move one of your other cards away from here
each turn. Now, this is gonna be a big, big
buff for move now, Move jeez. Move itself has been
one of those archetypes where it's just like, oh, well,
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you know it's gonna be. It's not as great, right,
you see that it has potential, but the consistency of it,
like the cards always going left right, especially with time doll,
You're like, okay, well turn six, I'm moving left right now.
There are cards that have been released to make sure
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they go right right. So you have Ghost Spider, you
have Her Strange, Doctor Strange, so they've adapted cards or
you know, Doctor Strange has always been like that, but
they added more cards for things that can go right now.
The only thing that Move has that is troubling is.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Space.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I always find that if I'm playing a move deck,
I consistently run out of space, not only because you're
you're playing so many cards, because you you know you
should if you're playing a card for every turn, or
you know, your deck covers the entire field, right, so
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you're you have twelve cards in your deck, there's twelve
spaces in the field. Now, where you're consistently moving things,
things tend to get cluttered, and Madam Webb provides that
that little thing that can maybe toss move over the
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edge right, because you could play, uh, what's his name?
What's the It starts at a K move guy, it's
the he he has a a movie coming out, Why K.
I was gonna say something else, porn starting right Johnny
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so Craven. You know typically you play on two on three.
If you play Hercules, you play Hercules right now, then
you want to start moving, you want to start moving
the cards. The thing about Hercules is it bounces a
card into another a random location, which can sometimes hurt you.
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But what's cool is Madam Web and you could basically
have any card just land in the Madam Web lane, boom,
move it out. And on top of that, it's a
two costs one power, you know, so it's on par
with you know, playing Craven. You could play Craven in
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the same lane as Madam Web something moves in, move
it out the next turn, right, you could freaking stack
Madam Web Craven and uh, what's his name Hercules in
the same lane, move in, move out, and then or
I don't know. It's just you have a lot of
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different techniques that you can do now, right, because typically
before I would play Craven and Hercules in the same
lane moving into the Hercules lane, moves it out. At
least Craven gets the plus two right, So there's there's
a lot of things that you can actually do now
with this Madam Web card. So what are your thoughts
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on this one?
Speaker 4 (24:38):
I'm in the same boat where I feel like Moved
is more of a clutter base for me. I know
that we again, we have some dudes in our alliance
that move is like their bread and butter, and I
love watching like those screenshots in the videos they have,
like dude, you guys killing it on those ones. But
for me, the most enjoyable move deck there is is
Phoenix Force, and that's kind of a hard thing to take.
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That is already set, you know what I mean. And
you're not really worried about movement because once you bring
that on, you can move it again. But as far
as this could be more like a tech card, throw
this in, you know, like you got a card.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
It's a big boy.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
You want to move, get it out of somewhere. Say
you do something like you lock down a lane with
storm or something like that, and you throw this bad
boy out. Now, okay, manam web can move. You're cold
city and over, no problem. I'm not worried about that nonsense.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Like there's some moves you could do.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
I think that would run really well with There was
the one deck that I was obsessed with for a
little bit, the Bone Prussure. Yeah, you know, you know
that one is fun. It's got a lot of that
high ten cost power you can get scar out and
all that nonsense. I mean, I feel like this card
has mobility outside of just move.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
That.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
For me, I'm excited about just you know, putting out
even a lane that you think you're gonna set something
up with again, playing with this this long black panther
symbio and all that nonsense, like you put this card out, Okay,
I move Wong, gotcha, I can do everything on the
other lane.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
I think that's kind of cool too.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
So I mean, yeah, I'm looking forward to what this
card is gonna be and I think the cooks are
going to be insane.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, and because of the low cost of it, it
can Basically it's basically a.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Tech card, right.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
You see a lot of people that play most cards
that are tech cards are like three and below.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
They're very energy saving. They're not the strongest card, they're
not an ARC type card, but they can go into
basically any deck and make it better. And you know, yes,
move will get a major upgrade with Madam Web because
I mean, it's just an insane card. It doesn't say
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you can move this card to the right. It doesn't say,
you can move a card to the left. It says
you can move anywhere. If Madam web is on the
very left lane, you can move that card to the
very right lane right. So it's insane to think of
like the possibilities of how this car is played. You
could base you can basically move the card into specifically
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a Hercules lane.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
So it's just like it's crazy. It's crazy, Like, uh,
I don't know. There there's a lot of things that
you could do.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
And you know, Sully in the chat says, you know,
it's gonna be playing like tennis, you know.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
With.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
You put Hercules and Craven and Madam Webb in like
their own lanes, They'll be playing tennis and h. Craven
is gonna be benefiting from it, you know. Yeah, I mean,
if you think about it, right, you put Hercules and
Craven in one lane, Madam web in another. Start basically
putting stuff in the Madam web blane, move it to
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the freaking Hercules lane, it moves it back into Madame
web Blane.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
You're basically just you know, so you have a.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Bro it's ongoing. You could totally mistik it and have
two Madam Webbs.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Oh my god, Lord, have mercy got man? We out
here cooking?
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Yah yo?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Can you imagine you put Madam Webb in one lane,
you put Mystique in another, and then Hercules in the
other lane.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Yo, Yo, that's gonna get cracked.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Okay, it's just like when everyone discovered that what's it
the blob could be taken over by mistake.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Not anymore.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
We have to fix this.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Misteque Madam Web never never even crossed my mind. Yeah,
that's that's pretty wild. I'm cooking over here.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
We got what we got. We saw taking some money.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
This bitch, yeah, I see, and and ghost Ghosty says,
you know, on curve as well. Then play Torch and
task Master.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Turn six. Imagine.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Okay, here here's here's here's the you could go. No,
I'm just sorrying to turn two. Turn two you could
do Madame webber Craven right. Turn three you could do
her Hercules or sorry, no, you actually do want to
do Madam Web Turn two Mystique turned three Hercules Torch.
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Play Torch on either Madam Web's lane or Mystique lane,
and then move Torch into the Hercules. Hercules will bounce
it back over. Turn five you can move it back
into the Hercules lane and then it'll get bounced out again.
But it's crazy, dude, So.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
What if you could even just arn them, like move
everything around and then arn them your human torch.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
It's it's this is a.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Well you can't you can't arn them because it's gonna
be a fifty to fifty you know. So you're gonna
have one card in each lane. But imagine this. You
could move Hey, what's up rib Nation?
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah, so imagine this. You could move multiple cards too, right,
so if you have a card in Madame Web and
a card in Mystiques lane, you can move both around.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
So man, that's a lot of move.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
So that's a whole lot of move basic, a whole lot.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
So it's very interesting on the things that you can
do with this card, and like you mentioned earlier, you
don't have to use it in a move deck. There's
I mean, the best type of move deck that I
like to play was not even with Dagger or Human
Torch or Vulture. It was with like Spider Man and
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Miles Morales and you know, Silk, So it was more
of the spider move was more interesting to me than
the typical move, which is pretty funny because one move
is like Spider Man's enemies and the other one is
like Spider Man's allies.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
M h.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
The only thing that didn't fit that was cloaking Dagger.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
I don't know where, like, I don't think they were
they were out of nowhere. Yeah, it's just funny that
there there was some correlation between the two. But I
like that because you know, the Spider Spider people are
always you know, they're they're the most mobile, So I
guess that's why most of them are like move cards.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
Yeah. I think that's cool that that's pretty on brand
with the comics. I'm all about that.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I like that a lot. But you see, what's your
rate on this card?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Okay, So after talking about the potential with mystique and
slowly just said something maybe a crack out too, is
that the moving Cosmo will be the bane of my existence.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
That's a huge thing. Okay right there off the rip.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
If we're able to now control a lane, move it
over and go heyo, you try to avoid what I
was about to do.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Now you try to bend them over there, got Joe, bitch.
There's a lot of things like that.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Yo. Imagine if you do. Uh, what is it?
Speaker 1 (32:04):
You go Madam Web into Mystique and then Cosmo, and
then you just move the Cosmo between the.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Madam Web and Mystique lanes.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
You're like, hell, no, you're not playing on reveal at all, dude.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
And the thing is, I want Spider Man twenty nine.
I want Miguel.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
I want that card to actually work, you know, like
it'd be fun. But it only does it once.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
It does it once, but if you can imagine, it
would be so broken if it could do it multiple times.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Like, I get it.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
I get that he needs to be something more because
the strong you know, if if it was destroyed the
strongest card here, it would be good. But since he
does it randomly and he only does it once, it
could whiff so hard. That's the only thing.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Spider.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
What if we could somehow create a deck that's you know,
you got the Discard of the Gambits and all that nonsense.
What if there's a way to be like, move the card,
fuck the opponent's deck, come on back over here, move
it again, bam, symbio.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
Activate be kind of crazy.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
It would be, but uh, yes, okay, So typically when
you move Spider Man twenty nine. You either what uh
iron fist him or you.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
What so you fisted him?
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Or or you go spider him right, or you know
you have something else if he's the strongest one that
you can move him with. But typically the only card
that will will it worked is if you knock him
into a lane where he's the only one with Spider
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Man twenty ninety nine, right, spider Man twenty ninety nine
takes the lowest costing card, so you'd have to have
him either in a high area or high cost card area,
or you have to have it a lane to himself.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
But I was getting over rambunctious.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
On top of that though, if you think about it,
because if you play Spider Man twenty nine or Simbio
Spider Man turned four right, that means you have five
and six unless you magic now, Spider Man twenty ninety
nine is a five cost if I'm not mistaken, right.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Or is a fore cost?
Speaker 5 (34:45):
I think he's a five Okay, let's see. Do you
have the game open?
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Yes? I do, so see.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, okay, so he's a five cost, right, So if
he's a five cost, how is he gonna move?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
You know? That's the thing.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Maybe on turn six you could probably I would. I
was gonna say ghost Spider, but then if you go
Spider him into the lane with.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Symbio, then it's gonna take not gonna work.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
I take back my time. It's not gonna work. Let's
go back to the last thing.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I said.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Yes, Mystique into Madam Webb, that's wild, that's that's it's
a crack all right.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
So rip Nation asked, have we already talked about all
the counters though? So he said, I feel like it
needs some defense of its own now, Madam Webb, Uh,
there's not.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
A huge defense.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Besides, you know, anything that counters ongoing, like if you
play Echo first or if you have Rogue or Enchant. Right,
But number one thing, I think if you're playing against
a move deck, it would always be shadow King, Shadow.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
King and shang Chi shadow King.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Shang Chi for me still remains the number the number
one turn six play. It's such a scary turn six play.
Second place is having a Ravona down and you could
iron man mystique on turn six that those top those
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are the top two turn sixes in my in my book,
I always try and if I'm running a shank Chi,
I'm trying to run a Shadow King as well, and
vice versa, right, because there's such useful tech cards where
you take care of one could take care of one
lane each, right, So depending on how you play it,
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you're basically just setting yourself up for success. But if
they're playing ahead of you and being like, okay, well
I gotta stay Undershong Chi range, right that those smart
players gotta be aware of those.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Guys, then big energy.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, then it's just a shadow King, right because if
they stay under ten but they're still you know, gaining power,
then Shadow King is such a really good card.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Yeah, he's He's probably one of the top right now
as far as counters is considered.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Because a lot of things out are powering themselves up right,
or just like I said before, you have these negative
decks that are starting to affect you, and then Luke
Cage ends up being something that you want to play.
But even Shadow King counters Luke Cage. Now, so yeah,
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any other counters that you can think of for Madam Web.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
We already mentioned rogue.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Yeah, you know, that's that's something I also want to mention.
They really just destroyed Professor X.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Yeah, you know the fact of the matter is that
you can move things in and out of that. What
is the point in this card besides it's kind of
like a five cost armor.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Okay, That's the only thing I don't like about it
now is Jeff isn't as good anymore, right, because if
you're playing Professor X, all you gotta do is play
move Now, it's not even you know, Jeff's not special anymore.
(38:47):
I felt like, you know, I think I mentioned this
a couple of weeks ago, where I felt Jeff was
very needed in a meta where Professor X was kind
kind of utilized, but because of his effect, now I
feel like, well, Jeff is just like any other move card.
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The only thing that makes him different now from any
other move card is he can get played in locations
where you can't play cards, right.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
Thrown room or something like that, or yeah, or yeah,
the one where you can't actually play a.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Card exactly, or you know, you could add him along
with thrown Room. But even Thanos has that ability now, right,
you can't stop Thanos from being played anywhere. Jeff is
just a weaker Thanos. Yeah, So I don't know, I
feel like they took his identity away from him a
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lot of people were saying that.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
What is it? What is it?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
They were saying that Jeff and Nightcrawler's effects should have
been switched because Nightcrawler is more of the thing that
can go anywhere. Yeah, but I was just like, you know,
I like Jeff because I feel like Jeff's such a
iconic character in the in Marvel Snap game. I didn't
really read too much of it in comics, but you know,
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it kind of made everybody love Jeff, right mm hmm.
But now I just feel like, yeah, not too good.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Yeah, they brought an Activate, but they also killed Lockdown.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yeah, and Sully mentions, you know, Jeff counter Sandman, Jean Gray,
and what's awesome about the gene Gray. You know, you
play Jeff first in another lane. You don't have to
do that Jean Gray lane shit anymore. You're just like,
I'm I am opted out from that.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
So yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
It's not great anymore. It's not a card worth spend
six thousand tokens three maybe, but I'd look to get
it free from now. And you know, even then, I
don't see him getting tossed in too many decks over
even you know, Nocturn at least Nocturn has a secondary effect.
Speaker 5 (41:18):
Yeah, more power as well.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
I mean she does cost more, but still she has
an effect that is useful.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Let's see.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
So Sully says, what if they just made it, Jeff,
a smaller vision you can move every turn and be
played anywhere.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
That would be too much. I would feel like.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Now we're getting to in my opinion, now we're just
like giving cards secondary effects, which then they'd have to
go back and like give every card a secondary effect,
which I still kind of feel like the High Evo
cards should have already had effects. I feel like High
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Evo should have just like made those cards a bit
better in my opinion, because I don't know what it
is about effectless cards, right, cards that don't have effects.
I feel like they did them dirty and for them
to be useful you have to play High Evo or
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Patriot Cyclops was such an it, Cyclops the Hulk, you know,
just those two alone, those are such iconic cards that
for them not to have an effect, it's kind of
like a slap in the face. I mean, wasp, Okay,
I guess, Abomination, the thing man, the thing should they
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should have already had effects, which is insane to think
about that. They're just like, you know, let's just put
a nice little quote under their names, or like above
their names and just call it good. Yeah, but hey,
I'm not a developer.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Maybe they saw something that I don't know.
Speaker 5 (43:17):
They just hate the Hulk.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
I hate all these characters the person is up there,
just like you know, I hate Cyclops.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
He's the worst. Yeah, no abilities this guy, I know, I.
Speaker 1 (43:27):
Mean, oh man, like, especially when you play him and
you don't have High Evo, like he still makes.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
That that lasering like he's not doing anything. Why what
is that he's not doing? Right there?
Speaker 4 (43:42):
I played like a legitimate laser in real life. It's
like I'm planning you, I'm planning. He was like, stop please, Now.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
It doesn't do anything unless you play Patriot or High
Evo then he's great.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
But no, so and not.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Even in hot in Patriot anymore. You know, Patriot's all
about h freaking Ultron. You're you're not playing in a WASP,
you know, so you're not playing Cyclops in that. You're
only playing Cyclops in High Evo now, so it's just
like it's kind of useless. Yeah, but those are just
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our opinions. Like you said, the dev's no better. Sometimes
it's just my.
Speaker 5 (44:23):
I didn't say that was well.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
He they made a successful game, so I'm here for you.
Speaker 5 (44:29):
That's true. They're trying to fix things here and there.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
I guess yeah, but you know, all we can do
is hope that they have the game, the betterment of
the game in mind. Yes, So, uh, anything else you'd
like to add before we sign off here?
Speaker 4 (44:50):
A well, besides the thank you so much everyone who
who's even here right now, we love you guys.
Speaker 5 (44:57):
The Alliance. This week we kicked the ass. We got
all over.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
She's done like Wrapp the rip with the bounties. Y'all
kick an ass. So we appreciate that. Thank you for
being uh, you know, forgiving. I got married last weekend,
so thank you for all the congratulations and all that goodness.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Sorry we didn't get that premium mystery mystery variant he
got married. I was on vacation, like I know, we
tried to pull through, but you know, we'll get it
next time. I don't plan on being on vacation anytime soon.
Maybe actually in November, i am, but you know, not
this month, so I'm gonna be trying to get those bounties.
Speaker 5 (45:34):
Mm hmm. Yeah, So thank you guys for just kicking
ass like you've been.
Speaker 4 (45:38):
It's been awesome to always look at and be like, oh,
everyone's just doing their thing, because yeah, not more getting married.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
It's all right.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Hopefully it only happens once, you know, twice to Dakota.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
But you know, the say.
Speaker 5 (45:49):
The story, what happened there, We get it.
Speaker 4 (45:50):
We had like a quick elopement early in the year
March was like this small ceremonies and we planted this
big one for up here. So the joke has been
this is my second marriage, same wife, but you.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
Know, you just have two ceremonies.
Speaker 5 (46:06):
So next year, on my third wedding, everyone's invited. It's
gonna be good time.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
It's gonna be.
Speaker 5 (46:14):
Two cakes, that's right. Yeah, we had two cakes. The
second one was fun fetti because that's how we fucking roll, baby.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Yo, fun fetty rips. It's it's good, dude.
Speaker 5 (46:24):
It was hilarious every when we cut into it, like like,
of course it's fun feed. What kind of question is that, dude?
Speaker 3 (46:30):
It was awesome.
Speaker 5 (46:31):
It was a good time.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
But yeah, I just appreciate you guys, thank you for
you know, being so gracious on that but thanks for
the love, support, the memes you guys have been sharing everything,
and just the community we're building here. It's super dope.
I know I say it a lot, but seriously, you
guys are the best. So thanks for just coming alongside
of us and just giving us your words of wisdom
as we drop whatever we think is going on, and
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just helping us build this community up.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
Second that man, you guys have been awesome. Uh, whether
it's a podcast or whether it's the memes or even
in just in game, the support you guys show, not
just us, but each other, it's it's such an amazing
thing and it's cool to see. You know, I started
that Instagram chat and it just blew up and I'm
(47:17):
so happy, Like I'm getting like like message after message,
but you know, it's just you guys talking with each
other and it's amazing to see. I mean, it basically
runs itself. So you guys are crushing it and we
you know, I'm just happy to be alongside you guys
for the ride.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
So hopefully you.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Know, onward and upward is what they say, So we'll
keep cracking, cranking out the meat, cracking, cranking out the memes.
Speaker 5 (47:46):
It's gonna be a great time.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
So we'll keep trying to make you guys laugh and
again thank you guys for the support. So until next week,
we will see you guys on the next episode of
Cube the Marvel to.
Speaker 5 (48:03):
Say bye bye, have a good night, love y'all.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
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