To Get or Not to Get...Makkari Raises This Question

We discuss the newest card, Makkari, and the most recent OTA!

Episode Transcript

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Hey guys, and welcome to anotherepisode of Cubed the Marvel Snap Podcast.
Welcome to episode eighteen. I knowwe've been away for a little bit,
partly my fault. I was outin Florida and we wanted to do this
before Dakota aka bok Choy goes toNew York. So, as always,

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I already mentioned it, but bockChoy is here on our on everybody's left
and aka Dakota and Dark Helmet ison our on everybody's right aka Donald Tello
aka Don. So there's actually Ithought we had a lot to talk about,

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but there are a few things wewant to talk about, but it's
not too much. You know,the cast won't go too long. But
the first thing I want to dois, uh, how are you guys
doing tonight? I know it tookus a while, but I think we're
here and I think we're good togo. In all honesty, my computer

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is dying very very quickly, andit's kind of a sad thing. So
sorry for the delay, but youknow, here we go. Sorry,
I just I could take them back. The last time my computer did this
to me, it was at agig, so I sympathize with you.

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I hate when computers just slowly dielike this. It's the most frustrating thing
ever. So I apologize. ButCosco has a great deal to match his
audio. Dakota, go ahead andtry and speak into the mic. More
give me get up in here likethose dogs. Is better? Yeah,
that way it matches our volume,because I see yours is kind of like
dipping. But it's just yeah,it's just because you're a little bit away

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from the mic. So I knowthe first thing we're gonna do, we're
kind of gonna do it the oppositeway because I don't know if you guys
saw our meme. But this week'scard is I don't want to say pure
garbage. I feel like it couldbe used for something, but I'm gonna
go ahead and jump into it rightnow, just so we can talk about

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it. So the card for theweek. See. The worst thing about
it is is I don't even haveit pulled up because I thought I would
have it in my collection, butno, I didn't even go for it.
So let me pull it up here. So McCary is the card of

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the week. She is a threecost four power card and the effect is
after the turn runs from your handto a random location if possible. Now
I'm gonna go ahead and let Dakotastarted this start us off on this.

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How do you feel about this card? I'm not a fan. I just
don't really see me ever using thiscard. It's good if you want to
get priority really quick off of likeif you were I think we talked about
this earlier today. If you're inmatch and TVA is present, this card
might get you some cubes like that'sfantastic. But in reality, if you're

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coming down to it, you're notgonna sub this card in in a surfer
deck. There's better cards than her. It just it sucks. I really
looking at this card. This isthe first time I even got Marder.
Okay, when it came out,I was roll with this thing. This
card is the first time I lookedat it and just said, I don't
even want to try with this.I'm gonna save my keys. I'm gonna
save my tokens because it's just hottrash in my opinion, So all right,

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how about yourself done? Man,this is the best cards that come
out with ever. I mean,there's been no better discussion. I mean,
I'm telling you six thousand tokens orlike four keys. I mean this
card right, Actually, weirdly enough, I think of the only ones who

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did all once for this, andluck I got in the first try and
all of the day, so unlikeyou losers, I am a collection complete.
Unfortunately, it's an interesting card,right, So, I think this
is one of those cards that allof a sudden is gonna get buffed,
just like week one, and thenit's just gonna be just a little bit

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better. But as of right now, it is a pretty PREMI card.
I've played with a little bit.It's interesting to see it, just like
have a free three costs out there, but overall it's very underwhelming, especially
for a tier five card. Right, yeah, So okay, it's funny

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that you mentioned that because I knowyou said it probably might get buffed or
I think it will get buffed,But I think it came They already buffed
it before it came out, right. It was originally a three three,
and I think having it as athree to three would have made it be

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a little bit better than a threefour because as a three three it has
Cerebro right, like Cerebro three decksand Cerebro two decks have probably been the
most dominant out of all types ofCerebro because Cerebro two at the time you

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had, you know, Captain America, which you know if he's in the
ongoing line, he gives plus twoto ongoing, which automatically gives your your
mystique and your cerebro plus two power. But now because that's changed, they
kind of nerved uh what's his name, Uh, Captain America in Sreebro two

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decks, But in Sereebro three youhave Valkyrie. So Valkyrie can change anybody
that is not a three power cardto a three power card. So I
think McCary would have excelled in aC three deck because it's just like you,
you want three cost cards on thefield as much as possible. The

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thing that C two has over Cthree is it has uh sorry, mister
Sinister and Brood, those are atwo costs and a three costs and those
give you two and three cards onthe field, respectively. So C three

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was lacking in the in the waywhere you could just fill the field,
right. So I feel like McCarywas that was a good card if it
came out as a three for thatspecific reason. But now it's a four.
It's kind of more. I don'tknow, you can't really use.

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It's not widely used, but Ithink if they buffed it up to ce
A three three five, I thinknot only does it have raw stats which
we see a lot of three fivesare you know, Lady Sith, we
have corvs glave. You know thoseare not only good effects, but it's

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pretty decent power at a three cost, So I think buffing it to three
five it also works in C five. You know. C five has been
a deck that's been around for acouple months now and it does pretty well.
But because a lot of cards thatare five power are higher cost,

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it's hard to get them on thefield. So if it goes to three
five, I think it'll have aplace in C five. So anything else
you guys want to add about thisamazing card? Yeah, why didn't you
get I did? I pulled outnice? I mean that that was probably

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This is probably the, like uhDakota mentioned, the most underwhelming card they
have released in a while. Notto say it's terrible, right, It's
just it's not as good as weas it comes to releasing a card of
this stature, right, because especiallyif they're making a a five, what

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is it pool five? They makeit a pool five. That's kind of
insane. If they made a Poolfour, I would understand not so great,
you can't really play it everywhere,but pool five is just insane in
my opinion. Same. I mean, you can't expect this to be in
the same class as like Sasquatch,you know what I'm saying, Like,

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that's just put it in perspective ofwhere we have fives at. Like these
cards that have always been coming out, they are solid, They actually are
viable in the game. They changethe game. This card has done nothing.
It will do nothing unless it,you know, unless there's some sleeper
deck like this card, something goingon out there with Strong Guy. I
don't know, like some meme decksomewhere. But legitimately it's it's frustrating that

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they would put this that high upin the game. It shouldn't it shouldn't
be there. Yeah, it's veryweird that they put it as a poll
five. Uh. I didn't eventhink about it, you know, comparing
it to Sasquatch or comparing it toany of the other you know, even
some of the season pass cards.You know, these season pass cards are

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way better bang for the buck thanMcCary. If McCary was a season pass
card, I'd be like, Okay, decent season pass you know, no,
don't now even if it was aseason pass card, it'd be pretty
bad. But you use the key, would we would? That's if he

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spent for that, that card,the season pass would still be way disappointed.
You'd be like, why did theydo this? I would understand because
typically a season pass you don't wantit to be an overpowered card, right
they they've done it quite a fewtimes with uh Loki and I can't I

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can't remember other season pass cards,but yeah, like they've done it before
where these cards were broken. Oh, Zambu was a season pass card,
right, So it's it would beunderstandable if they made a card that you
have to buy, like if youwant it, you know, when it

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first comes out, you have topurchase it to be not so good,
you know, uh, because it'sso weird that they would make it like
this, and it's a like Isaid, we said, pull five card,
which you need either six thousand tokensto get or be very lucky with
the keys that you use to getthis mediocre card. You know, that

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that that means they're kind of likelosing money, Like people aren't gonna pull
people aren't gonna use resources. Dongot lucky, lucky, You're lucky keys
man, but every god damn it, I think I think I need to

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go bald or something, you know, and then oh man, or maybe
just rubbed on's head for luck,get your ass over here. So yeah,
I mean, I have nothing toadd to this. Besides, I'm

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very underwhelmed. I'm I'm excited tobe whelmed by the card in the future,
but as of right now, veryunderwhelmed for sure. All Right,
So, uh, we will gointo the ota that we did miss discussing.
It happened already, but I wantto go over, you know,

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our thoughts on all the changes thatwe've had. So the first card,
you know, it was a majorhit, especially uh, I mean it
was a major hits all of usbecause I think this card actually took us
all to infinite you know, thisseason. So the card I'm talking about

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is a Professor X. So theychanged him from a five costs one power
and the ongoing was locked down thislocation. Cards can't be added, removed,
et cetera. The only thing thatcould get added. There was Jeff,

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right because Jeff can be played anywhere, but they changed it now,
so he's a five costs two powerongoing. Still moving is the only way
to add or remove a card fromhere. Now, let's start with you,
don How do you feel about thischange to Professor X. Yeah,

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I kind of feel like, aha, we were already seeing uh I

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wish you could hear how perfect thatwas when you started a screen to the
astral plane because it cut out thatwas one of the best Oh my god.
Anyway, sorry, we already sawlike a almost a nerve to this

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card right when we saw the Fantischanges, right, so there was another
card that could actually play into thisthis area. So I think that they
kind of jumped the gun with changingthis as much as they did. I
mean, really, I can't counthow many games, Like there were plenty
of games where I played Professor downand just lose that lane instantly, right,
Yeah, so it was kind ofa crap shoot every now and then.

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So I do think that obviously thisis a death blow for Professor X,
but you know, what are yougonna do? Yeah? And I
feel like it's unfortunate because this cardI know it was. I think that
the terrible thing about it was theinteraction with cannonball, right, So cannonball

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is what made this broken where itlocked down the lane and since nothing else
can get in, cannonball would send. If they filled the other lane,
Cannonball would just destroy the other card. So I feel like that was the
thing that they probably should have lookedat instead of a Professor X, because

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now he's kind of useless. Imean as a five to two, it's
kind of pointless, where I feellike, if it's this kind of effect,
it should be a three, threeto two or something like that.
So, I mean, I'm lookingforward to seeing what they do with Professor

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X next because if moving is theonly way to add or remove a card
there, then it would be greatin a move deck. But you'd have
to really play this out sooner.So how about yourself, decoder, how
do you feel about this change?Well, essentially doing this turned it into

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a five cost storm. I mean, what's the difference at that point?
I mean, obviously it's like astorm mixed with armor, right, you
can't you can't destroy the card eitherthat's in that lane, correct, Yeah,
and add to it. So yeah, I said, actually, they
just kind of turned it into twodifferent kinds of cards. It's frustrating that

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this is the way they went withit. I agree with you one hundred
percent that I think that Cannonball shouldhave been looked at or some other cards,
because honestly, this kind of destroysan entire archetype of lockdown control.
You have King Gray, you havesome other things you can do, but
this, this was a different style. Like everyone hoots and hollers about Hell
all the time. You know,obviously we'll get into that later, but

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she's still playable. You can't dothis lockdown style anymore. And yeah,
you know, it kind of wenta little rampant there for a little bit.
A lot of people used it,and that tournament, especially with the
Conquerors, a lot of people hadthat deck, you know, like that
was the the winner in those tournaments. I see where villain for a little
bit, see the frustration, Butthat's still, in my opinion, shouldn't

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have been the cause for this sicketuse. I think it's a little over
Yeah, I agree, Like Ifeel like lockdown decks should be a thing,
right, There should be a deckthat can control the field. Now,
if you need to nerf this card. You have to do it in
a better way that you know makesit usable, because then now no,

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Lockdown is a dead deck. Youcan't you don't play Lockdown anymore. So,
like I said, I think theydo a rotation of like what should
be strong. You know they didthis with We've seen it a lot of
times where especially like say, let'sAngela, right, Angela's very strong in
the beginning, then they toned herdown, then they killed her, then

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they brought her back up to whereshe is now. So you know,
we see a cycle of what they'retrying to do. So hopefully, like
you know, we said, it'llcome back, but right now he's dead.
Can't really do anything with him.Like, like I said, in
a move deck can work. Butliterally, if you're playing this in a

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move deck, your turn six isthe Byfrost guy. Yeah, yeah,
no, straight up, you're avery pigeonholed playing that in a move deck.
It doesn't actually work because I mean, let's think about the other move
cards, right, Like, uhso you could still move Jeff in there.

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You can still move uh Nocturn,you can still move Vision, but
you can't you can't doctor Strange inthere because you can't play doctor Strange in
there. You can't go Spider tobring that in there. You can't cloak
to get in there. You know, you could uh iron fists in there,

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but you know it's it's very aniche kind of thing to get in
there, you know, so veryfew cards to actually utilize. Professor X
now, like he's not he's notuseful in anything anymore so maybe thanos,
I don't know. I mean,he shouldn't be too too synergistic. No,

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just because he's a five cost.Yeah, so you're gonna like you
want to have vision before you wantto play. Yeah, he's too shitty
a cost for it to be thisway. Like, like I said,
if if he was in a movedeck, he should be at least that,
you know, at most the threecost with that two power, because

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even putting this at a five sevenprobably would be the minimum to be like
okay, yeah, because then hecould close out a lane like okay,
he has enough power to close outa lane. You know they have to
do they have to work to getin there, but for one turn unless

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they magic. So anything else youguys want to add on this card.
Maybe also he must have gone tothe Sharer Empire because now you can move.
Yeah, they're they're making it canon. And speaking of canon's the next

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The next card they change was cannonBall, right, So what they did
was they just removed a power fromhim, so he went from a five
costs eight power to a five costsseven power. Now, if they gutted
Professor X, I feel like theyshould just left cannon Ball the way he
is, or maybe even give hima maybe make him a five to nine,

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you know. But other than that, I feel like there's not really
any change. Uh, there's notany deck that you could probably use.
You could probably throw them in likea junk deck to make sure that they
are filling the lane before you useit. But yeah, other than that,
there's not really a lot of decksyou could probably use him in anymore.

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So let's start with you, Dakota, how do you feel about this
change? Just going off of whatI said before, I mean, having
your massive play line, it justgets massive play link Mac like that.
You're not gonna be able to pullthis off, it really is. He
started to get some lifts with acard that was enjoyable when he came out

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in the X Men versus Avengers season. Man, this car was so fun
because he was synoistic. There wasthese really cool things we could do in
the game, which you know secondary. It was awesome and it was fun
to play with him. That wasit. That was the last time we
really had anything. Now this deckcame a rise and it dude, it's

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just it's been fun. Okay,I'm not the best operating it. I'll
be honest. I wasn't. I'mnot the best control, but I still
had a really good time playing thisstyle. And to have his time to
shine just get kind of stifled.It's frustrating. It really is frustrating.
I was so excited to have itall set up. You throw down your
professor, it's like, this isgo time. Your other opponents looking at

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this thing, going like I shouldprobably leave. And then it's fun to
just go, okay, let's seewhat they got and you can just take
them out. Let's say, havedanos. But it was it's a big
game changer. And to have himjust be getting hit on top of two,
it's like, man, stop myboy alone. Let them have his
time in the sun. How aboutyourself done? What do you think about
the change to this card. Yeah. I mean, honestly, the power

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doesn't matter that much. I mean, it is nice to have that extra
one power, but really it wasall about that professor exchange that really was
the biggest nerves for this. So, you know, if I just don't
see where this card fits anymore,so at the end of the day,

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you know, we're going to seethis card go from like being played a
ton to almost no play again.You know. And then when it first
came out, there was kind oflike, oh, this is kind of
an interesting mechanic, and then it'slike it just kind of disappeared for pretty
much a long time until about thisseason, and then it kind of really
ramped up and like, well,let's hit that with a nerve stick three

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date three times. So let's callit a day. Yeah, like I
said, we won't see this onefor a while. But you know what
the good news is, it doesopen up the opportunity for new parts of
the meta to kind of, youknow, be figured out. So while
I hate the nerves that happened here, you know, it does give an

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opportunity to kind of re invigorate yourthoughts on decks in this game. So
there are yeah, and I thinkhe was seeing more more play than shang
Chi if I'm not mistaken, becauseshang Chi requires you to have a card

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that's plus ten, right ten plus. Now this guy a cannonball just requires
you to be the highest you knowpower card in that lane. Didn't require
it to be ten, and itif if your opponent had another spot open,
that literally won them that lane.So it's like it had to be

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precise. I mean, I've hadgames where I'm just like, okay,
let's try and outthink this cannonball player. Right, if I leave a spot
open here, and I leave aspot open here and one switches, do
I still win both lanes? Right? So it had play rounds. That's
what was cool about it. Butyou were stupid if you could think that

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if he played Professor X and there'sa chance that he has cannonball, you're
gonna try and stick out that game, Like, no, that's a leave,
you know, like if they professor, actually you're not winning that lane,
you practically leave, or you tryand win by having an open spot,
you know, in both lanes.So it's it's a it's a it's

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disappointing to see him go away sofast because he was a shining ball for
a little bit. But uh yeah, I mean hopefully something in the future
near future makes him viable again,not say he's not viable right now,
he's just not as good. Ithink if you if he took this card

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and you actually made it more ofah it moves a random card, right,
and you put Professor X back theway it was, I think it
would make it better because right now, I mean, it was targeting the
highest card there, so you knowexactly which part it was gonna right.
Yeah. I think if they justswitched it up, you put Professor back
to the way he was, youmake it a random card here, I

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think that would solidify some of thatwhere it's like, hey, maybe you're
gonna hit the biggest, maybe you'regonna hit the smallest, you know,
and that's gonna kind of change thevariability of that. I think that would
work out to make this they wouldput stuff back the way it was,
but also to make it a littleless effective. But I think a lot

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of the only thing is is Ithink a lot of people don't like the
randomness of things, and a lotof random cards. I don't think it
would seem more play if he gotthat change because when people want to play,
let's let's use discard for an example, right, Like they're using Lady
Siff, which targets things instead ofrandom sword Master, right, sword Master

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has more power, but they'll they'drather use the Lady Siff because it has
a target effect. So like changinghim to a random I think it would
actually make him see less play unlesshe was like five ten. Then he's
shoes now because it's going to beseen pretty much no play. Yeah,

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exactly. And that's the thing.I think it would stay the same if
it was a random card just becausebut he would have to have a boost
in power, right, because youdo see some of those players that do
play the sword Master over Lady Sithbecause it has two more power. Right,
So if it was like a fiveten five eleven, then I think

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it would see some play just becauseof the raw power that it has.
But as for an effect which doesn'ttarget, if it's just random, I
would rather use the shank Chie becausethen I know for sure that card is
getting destroyed. So that's my twosaints, all right, So let's move

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on. Let's move on. Thenthe next card that we had changed was
Hella, So they did a likean overhaul change on the decks that were
reigning Supreme. But I feel likethis change was very mid because it's easily

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counterable with either Shadow King or withlike Luke Cage. You know, and
I know this Hella decks don't runit. But swapping one of your big
cards for one of those to ensurethat your cards don't even lose even if
it loses you know, the power, it's not that significant. But before

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I continue, let me go aheadand read what the card does. So
it used to be uh an Onrevealed resurrect all cards you discarded to random
location, but now they added withnegative two power, so your infinite instead
of coming back at twenty become comingback at eighteen, which is like,

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what's the difference? You know,it's still a beat stick. So how
do you feel about this changed on? I think it was. I think
it's a good change, right.I mean, ultimately it's not a significant
change, but it's enough to makeyou go, okay, you know what,
I can't tell you how many likeHella decks I've lost, you know,

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one or two points here and there. This also does play a big
factor in the like Iron Man,right, So now when we have iron
Man, right, and he's ata negative two and then they're playing the
onslaught and the what the Tribunal,at least you're getting a negative for a

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negative six off of that. Soactually do at least a little bit to
almost do two off of each.Not that it's a huge significance, but
it is enough that at least youget a little bit. Yeah, and
I feel like the Hello Tribunal wouldbe affected affected more just because of the
iron Man, right. The ironMan was such a huge part of the

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hell A Tribunal absolutely all right,So how about yourself to good? How
do you feel about this change?Yeah, I'm coming with you on it.
It's right now. The tribunal movewith this one is a little it's
kind of in the past. WhenEliath became such a prevalent card, we

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stopped with the Invisible Woman, westop with the modoc play with Blink coming
out, that opened up a wholefor Hella, right, and that's why
everyone started a bitch and moan aboutthis car, going like yo, y'all
need to touch this because it's justit's overpowered. We can't seem to stop
it now, you know, Iprobably hate, but I loved playing Hella.

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This is a really fun deck andit's it's brainless. It's something you
can just do and like, Okay, I can know where I have the
rip. I'm gonna win and I'mgonna lose. I got these cards just
scarded. Everything's good. I don'tsee a Cosmo coming my way. Great,
I want and it's so it's enjoyable. I like the style, like
playing with the big cards, butat the end of the day doing a
negative to power off the way thatthe deck is run. Now, okay,

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cool. So I think the biggesthit you're really gonna do is maybe
be like when I'm returning my blackCat cool. So instead a big deal,
it's not in the world, andit's still you're gonna be right where
she was. I've heard from likewhen we were watching The Conquerors people and
seeing on everything saying like when areyou gonna fix? Hell? When's this

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people want to be where she's onlyreturning like three cards or like four cards
or the most. And it's like, honestly, it's it's interesting because at
what point do we just say,hey, we're just gonna give archetypes,
you know, like yeah, wehave ghost writer who can return things too,
but that's one card. I thinkthat the Hella play is it's in
my mind. I don't see itas big of a deal, and I

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enjoy this style. I think peoplewould be more wary of what they discarded
if it did. If Hella broughtback only a certain amount of cards,
right, So if Hella did bringback, say three, then you're just
be like, Okay, well,do I play the Lady Sif or do

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I play the Corvis Glave. I'dplay the Lady Sif because I know it's
discarding a top card, right,Corvus Glave might discard your excuse me,
Jubilee, you know, so ifshe if it discards Jubilee, You're just
like, well, I don't wantto bring I mean, maybe I want
to bring it back, but whatif I draw all my big cards,
right, it's not going to doanything. So it's it's kind of hard

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to say which is better at themoment. But I feel like if it
brings back only three cards, itwill slow down the deck for sure.
People wouldn't make so many uh ballsmoves, right, They would have to
make more calculated moves. So Ithink if they did that, I wouldn't

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be mad at it. So anythingelse you guys want to add, no,
I mean this was all This wasa deck for most of the time.
You know, either know you're gonnawin or you know you're gonna lose.
And if you see it popping up, either know you're gonna have a
shot or you know you're not.I mean for the most part. So

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like, I mean, if you'relosing four D eight cubes against this deck,
then that's your own fault. Yeah, And that's the thing. Like,
now that they added the discard view, you shouldn't have any problems.
You're like, okay, I knowwhat they discard before. You're just like,
all right, what did they discardbefore? You know, it's like

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do I lose? I don't knowif I lose. No, it could
be like, okay, I dolose, I'm gonna get out of here.
So so another card that they actuallychanged in the same vein is another
discard card was an Ebony Blade andit was a four zero ongoing can't be
destroyed and its power can't be reduced. I feel like the Ebony Blade was

(35:25):
a semi overpowered card because if theydiscarded a card like infinite, like what
was the one that goes only onthe left giganto giganto right, or or
if they did something else big,then you're just like, well, I

(35:45):
can't destroy it with chung Chi.I can't reduce it with shadow King.
I'd have to rogue and then shadowKing or row and then shang Chi.
So you had to do like amultiple kind of move in order for you

(36:07):
to actually deal with this card.Now, was it easy to get an
Ebony Blade with that much power?Some games? You know, not all
games, but I feel like itleft little to no counterplay, right,
every card shouldn't have a counterplay thatway. It's like, oh, okay,

(36:30):
you know, it's kind of likerock paper scissors. You can't just
play a game of rock and scissorsbecause then rock would always win. Right.
You need them to have a wayto counteract this effect. So because
of that, they changed it.They kept the same cost, the same

(36:51):
power, but it can't be destroyed. Only it could have its power reduced.
So that's good. You're clopses willwork, your things will work,
your shadow Kings will work. Allthat stuff that can reduce power will now
affect Ebony Blade, which is great. I mean I'd rather try and destroy

(37:13):
it, but can't have both,right, So let's start with you,
Dakota. How do you feel aboutthe change to Ebony Blade? Kind of
like what I was saying with HellaMan when War was a war machine.
When he came out and there wasthe deck running with Ghostwriter, Ebony Blade
was a freaking MVP. And Iloved that it couldn't be destroyed and all

(37:36):
that, but I agree with youit needed to have a counter. I'm
glad that it actually can be destroyedin an aspect with Shadow King. It
makes you play a little more onedge. You gotta agree that. Okay,
I'm not just gonna win this linecompletely. You know you're fine with
from shang Chi, but hey,what if he's got something a little sneaky
up his sleeve? You don't know? So I liked it. It makes
you continuously think about what you're gonnado, which is completely opposite I said

(38:00):
about Hella, because Hella is abrain dead deck. But when you're playing
this card, yeah, you gotto have a chip on your shoulder because
the odds are your opponent will havethat, so so be ready. And
I think that's cool. Okay,how about yourself done. Yeah, I
think they could have hit it righton the head. I mean, this
is a strategy game, right,It's a card strategy game. You having

(38:22):
a card that you can just putdown and not think about really kind of
takes away a lot from it.Don't get me wrong. There are things
you have to do to make itwork. Right. You have to play
this card, and then you haveto discard it, and then you have
to have to play the card.Right. Yeah, but at the same
time as having the ability to counteractit it's a good thing, and then

(38:45):
be able to just reduce it downand make it so, you know,
it doesn't completely take everything away fromit. You know, it still has
is a card that have really goodpower, but it's not immune to everything,
which is good. Yeah. AndI feel these types of decks like
it runs like, uh, whatis it Black Knight Blade, Lady Siff,

(39:09):
some run ghost Rider, right,So say if they do discard a
an infinite and you have the twentypower Ebony Blade and then they bring back
the Infanitte with the ghost Rider,at least it's susceptible to a turn six
shang Chi Shadow King play. Youknow, we know, Bam, you

(39:29):
could probably win both lanes by playingshann Chi Shadow King. So you just
it's cool that they have some counterplaybecause once you see them discard that Infanitt,
you're just like, well, Ilose, you know, can I
win the other two lanes? CanI beat an Infanitte or can I beat
the Ebony Blade? I can't beatboth, So it was it was very

(39:52):
uh, it was very hard tocounterplay once they get a good Ebony Blade.
Now when they get a bad everyBlade, just like yeah, bitch,
you know, but iron hard becauseyou know, they play Black Knight
and then they play Corvis Glade andyou're like, you know, it's like,

(40:15):
you know, you just hope theydon't discard something. Uh, you
know, too strong that because Infanittis tough to beat already. You know,
if you see them on other deckswhere Infanat is played and they skip
turned five, you're just like,all right, can I beat an infinite
turn six? You know? IfI can't, you leave, right.
But Ebony Blade and ghost Rider getsit out so easily. So those twenty

(40:42):
powers are no joke. But yeah, counterplay, which is great. Now.
The next card that they changed wasRed Hulk. Now before it was
a six' nine, and beforeit was if your opponent had unspent energy,

(41:02):
it would it would gain plus fourpower. Now it's a six'
ten, and with if your opponenthas unspent energy, you yet plus three
power. Now let's start what you'vedone. How do you feel about the
change to this card? This?This is We all knew that these nerves
were going to be going back andforth, right, I know when we

(41:25):
originally talked about this, we're like, you know, getting a plus three
power seems about right. Force seemeda lot because I mean just two with
that plus eight. Now it's plussix, which you know, six sixteen
is nothing to scoff at. Butat least it's like, okay, I
can plan around it. It's nottoo bad. So I think this is

(41:49):
a good change. Moving back upto six ten is nice because if he
does get played down and you haveused all your energy, it's still shunk
table, which is another good thingversus where he was before, where he
was a six' nine. Ifyou used all your energy and he didn't
go up, well he can justplay it and stay from that chunk gi.
So I think it's a good agood adjustment. Okay, how about

(42:14):
yourself, Dakota. Yeah, I'mwith you on that one. John.
We all called this a while agothat this is gonna get hit again.
No surprise. I wouldn't even again. I'll say it again. Won't be
surprised if it goes down to twoplus two instead of three, just like
they did. Kind of how theHulk runs. Watch him go up to
maybe a six eleven and then keepinghim out of plus two for a good

(42:37):
while. Because this card is opit really and still even after this,
if you want to call it anerfu, it's still gonna be in a
lot of deaths. I'm running intoit everywhere. I'm still using it like
most people. It's a very strongcard. It runs smooth even with this
quote unquote nerve. Yeah, he'sstill He's still present. Yeah. I

(43:00):
feel like they changed this card.Didn't really do anything right because, uh,
the only thing I did, likeDon said, it made it shunk
cuble without having to skip any energy. So you know that when you played
it, you're already in danger.So you could be like, Okay,
I have to play it on theright time now because your opponent sees if

(43:22):
it gains or not. Now ifyour opponent sees it, then you're just
like, okay, well it's minegames then so it's like, okay,
is he gonna play it on turnsix or turn seven if there's a turn
seven I saw how much it gained? Or is he gonna play something that
adds up to six energy? Right, So it's a nice little kind of
bluff while you play, and it'sgood in Dex where you have a little

(43:46):
a lot of small costs cards becausethen you're like, okay, they're gonna
play the Red Hulk here, andthen you just start you play like a
bunch of stuff and they're like,oh, where's Red Hulk? You know,
so it gets them thinking. SoI I like that that part that
Red Hulk does show the opponent,not like the Hulk, where the Hulk
it only shows the person using it. So it was a good change,

(44:12):
But I agree with Don it mightchange again, so we'll see how well
it does. So the next changethat we got was a pretty fast change
for one of the season past cardswhere I think they felt it wasn't doing
well so they had to do something. Now, if McCary was a season

(44:37):
pass card, it would probably beeven faster, just as fast as McCary,
they would probably change it that fast. But Gilgamesh changed from a five
to seven to a five to nine. Not too significant, but it makes

(44:59):
it so so having him as aturn six is actually a somewhat decent power
play. So we got a lotof testing done by others. You know,
I didn't really test him yet,but I've had him play against against
me, and he doesn't do toowell when he was at five to seven,

(45:20):
right, So to make him morecompetitive, five to nine was a
jump off point, and I feellike if they go a bit higher,
I wouldn't mind, but I thinkfive he would have to be a six
at that point. Like if hestarts like at ten, he'd probably be
a six in my eyes. Buthow do you feel about the change to

(45:45):
this card, Dakota. I thinkthat this card has a lot of fun
play with Zoo. It's been enjoyable. But I have lost a couple of
matchers because when he's like, youdo the math, like this guy should
be able to pull this off,and they come in with something you didn't
see that's just a little bit stronger, You're like, all right, Okay,

(46:07):
so he's he's good, but he'snot that great. Having this buff
puts him back where it's like,Okay, this is a viable card in
the Zoo deck build. Watching theConquerors tournaments, I don't know if it
must have been requirement and was like, y'all gotta play yoga match because when
they did play this fool, youknow, they never won. Apparently ever

(46:30):
won. I was like, Wow, you're really selling this card, aren't
you. So yeah. I thinkthat they did it for a number of
reasons, but the number one isprobably because you know, you're looking out
at the Instagram for Marvel stab.A lot of people in the comments were
like, oh, we hated theEternal movies, why are we doing an
Eternal season? I'm not going tobuy the pass. And I guess that

(46:52):
had to be the case across theboard because for them to buff a season
card this fast, they must nothave been doing good on sales. They're
trying to make this card relevant,and that's how I see this going.
Sorry, I just want to interjectthat I feel like just because the the
the movies didn't do good, Idon't think that should affect the card in

(47:13):
any way. You know, they'rethey're Marvel like before they were in the
movies they were Marvel characters. Soyou know, I felt that that kind
of statement was is weird to think, like, oh, because the movie
sucked, the cards sucked right therethere. There's so many cards that are
in the game that haven't even beenintroduced in any live action or cartoon.

(47:36):
I mean, let's talk about awave and arrow. You know they're strictly
yeah, Jeff, wait, what'sup? Done in fairness, they were
right, this card sucked. Themovie sucked, so yeah, but they
were right. But lawyers instantly donedone with the facts. Man, I

(48:06):
just feel it shouldn't have any bearingon like oh yeah, like if he
started out a five nine, Ifeel like they would say, oh,
it sucked just because they didn't likethe movie. But I feel like,
uh, you know, it's notgiving credit to the actual card itself,
you know there, because I mean, the Hulk is a really great character

(48:29):
or sorry, Captain America was areally great character, and it wasn't until
recently that it became a good card, you know, and those movies were
amazing, the Captain American movies.So oh yeah, I agree with you
on that too. Like I'm alwaysblown away by the comments and what people
are saying, like because of this, that means X, Y and Z.
It's like, where the hell didyou even get that remotely from this?

(48:50):
Like what so, yeah, theinternet is undefeated. Yeah, And
it's crazy like like thinking about likethe cost, right, Like the strongest
hard should be the most costs,right. No, I mean, yeah,
Thonos is a six cost, butyou know, not every six cost
is the strongest character, right.I mean I don't know, I can't

(49:13):
you know, at the top ofmy head, I can't think of a
one cost that's like a really strongcharacter in the comics or movies. But
he Ma is one yeah yeah,oh yeah, yeah he rivals some avengers.
Yeah. And for them to tosay something like that, I'm just
like, well, it's a cardgame. It's not the movies, right,

(49:34):
so or it's not the comics.So I'm guessing they're just like they're
trying to make excuses on why theydon't want to get it. So yeah,
So the change to this card,I feel like it was a good
change. It makes it more appealing. I mean, I don't know if
that would make more people buy theseason past, but I feel like it

(50:00):
would help. So what about yourselfdone. How do you feel about the
change of this card. I don'tknow if it's really going to change a
whole lot. I mean, let'sbe honest. I've played with it a
bit. It's it's an interesting card. But then again, you know,
we've seen so many of these cardswhere it's like, hey, uh,

(50:21):
I don't know how to play this, how it's going to fit in next
thing? You know, it getsnerve to hell and it gets two cards
to nerve to be honest, justlike Cannonball. So yep, time will
tell just like I always say,exactly all right. So the next whoops.
So the next card that we havethat was, oh we talked about

(50:44):
this, but it was it wasa se I don't know if it was
a buff or a nerf. Itwas Captain America. So Captain America was
changed from a three to a threethree and he was already changed to have
his effect go to an ongoing thatyour other ongoing cards here have plus two

(51:08):
power now now because when he,like I mentioned earlier, when he had
two power, he was great inC two. But now this has this
card more as a spectrum ongoing deckcard. But let's start what you've done.

(51:28):
How do you feel about this change? No, all right? Yeah,
yeah, wow that clears up.How do you feel about this card

(51:58):
to Koda? Well, like yousaid, with Spectrum, that's really what
I have used him the most.With that destroyer build deck that you're able
to lock down with you got Cosmo. You know, no one's gonna f
with that lane because again, whenI was playing that was when Cannonball was
just a monster. He was everywhere. So I enjoy kind of using that

(52:20):
with him. And uh yeah,having the plus one on his power definitely
didn't hurt it. The deck stillruns very smooth. I'm cool with it.
I enjoy it. So yeah,I mean I'm happy that he's getting
a little buff now. Granted Inever play Cerebro decks, don't have good
luck with him. I don't knowwhat it is. They hate me,

(52:42):
so every time I've ever played Cerebrodeck it has been just a nightmare for
me. So yeah, him goingout of that, I don't care.
OLL give a damn because I likeplaying him in the Destroyer deck, so
yeah, I'm all for it.Yeah, because now he wouldn't work in
a C three deck because he onlygives plus two to the ongoing. So
if you was gonna buff what isit the mystique and cerebro, it wouldn't

(53:07):
even buff it up. So Idon't know. It's kind of it's kind
of at a weird spot where hecan't be played in C two anymore.
He could only be played in likewhat is it, uh the spectrum decks
or any ongoing deck. Right.So the next card we have that was

(53:29):
buffed was Shauna, So she wentfrom a three to two to a three
four, you know, And likeyou mentioned earlier, Zoo is coming back.
With all these changes, I feellike Zoo is gonna it's probably I
think it's one of the top decksfor the week. And it's insane because

(53:52):
I haven't tried it yet. Ireally want to try it because it takes
me back right. The only thingis I'm scared of is still the same
card kill Monger. Oh yeah,dude, So but I think I mean,
you have you have kai Era thatyou could add into the deck now,

(54:13):
you know, for that protection.So how do you feel about the
change to to Shanna? Dude?Just having Zoo kind of be prevalent again
is exciting for me. Just thenostalgia of what got us into this game.
What had us like, well,I wouldn't say what got us into
it, but our original competitive decksgrowing up into infinite for the first time

(54:37):
using a Zoo deck man every nowand then. Before this last season,
I would throw a Zoo deck outwhenever our mission was like, play one
cost cards because I enjoy it somuch. It's just a fun style to
play. You're always terrified they mighthave kill Monger, but please we get
through this. So the fact thatit is relevant again all for it.

(55:00):
It's just been it's been a it'sbeen a really fun time. Yeah.
Yeah, So I feel like,uh, them buffing Shanna gives it gives
Zoo another thing to to be competitive, and I feel like that's a good
thing because, like you said,we did come from you know, in

(55:21):
Pool one, it's like, okay, well, once we reach Pool two,
you have to be afraid of killMonger. But since we're in Pool
one, we're okay right now,you know. So it felt like you
had you didn't have to be carefulwhen you're in Pool one, you're just
like, yeah, play all theZoo cards that you are, the ones
that you want, and you don'thave to play it on uh turn six

(55:43):
you can play it on one,two, three, and then four you
play uh kazar our ks Are,and then five you play blue Marvel right,
and then turn six you play evenmore ones. But once you reach
pool two you're like, okay,well beware of kill Monger. But now
we have Kayia, so you know, uh, if you draw it,
at least you have some type ofprotection. Now, the last card that

(56:09):
we have that was updated was aStegron, which very surprising. So this
card changed from a four six toa four to seven. The on reveal
before used to be move an enemycard here from another location. Now this

(56:30):
was at random. Now the onreveal effect says move an enemy card here
one location to the right. NowI feel I mean, we just talked
about this earlier, right where insteadof randomness, it gives you a clear

(56:52):
a clear uh ability where it's justlike, okay, well it you still
have some of the randomness where youdon't know which one it's gonna move,
but now you know it's gonna moveone location to the right. So if
it's like, well, I needI need to move at least one car
from here, and say it's aa an ant man lane, you knock

(57:16):
one out and it's like, ohwell, no more ant man. Right.
So there's so many decks like thatwhere they try and stack a lane
and you could just use Stegron hitit one one uh location to the right
and feel good about it. Right, So, now, how do you

(57:37):
feel about this change? Got No, it's cool because, like we've said
before, there has to be somesort of way to play into this strategy.
When it was complete randomness, you'renot gonna know which way you're going.
You don't really get to set upyour next move or this doesn't get
to help you benefit from the movementunless you're playing a strictly moved Okay,

(58:00):
so on they moved. Here's youknow, Miles Moral. It's cool.
So it's cool that it's still randomenough to where you don't have one hundred
percent that it's going to be thiscard of that card, but the fact
that you're able to control which wayit's going definitely gives you a leg up
trying to move forward in on curvewith this card. So I think it's
great. I'm happy they're starting tomake things a little more strategic. It

(58:23):
still has the randomness, but it'snot completely random. Yeah, so I
like that. Yeah, I feellike I've been wanting to make a deck
that moves your opponent's cards, youknow. So I mean, now we
have more reliable stuff that can moveopponents cards. So you have you know,

(58:43):
Polaris of course, you have Magneto, now Stegron, you know,
or it's gonna Spider Man very random. You don't know if it's moving to
left or right, you know,or middle. So it's not as good
as the other ones. I knowa lot of people do like Spider Man,
but I was more of a fan. I think everyone was more of
a fan of his old effect,so I mean his new effect. It's

(59:07):
it's cool, but because like Imentioned, the randomness, the randomness is
the thing that kills a card's viability. If if you knew where it's going,
you could make more informed decisions.You don't have to be like,
oh, well, I think let'srely on Lady Luck, right, that's
what Hella players do. It's like, well, I'm just gonna discard all

(59:30):
these cards and hopefully they just spreaditself where win all three lanes. You
know, like you said, itis, it is a brain dead deck.
You're just like, Okay, onturn two, play nothing, turn
three, play chorvis Dave or playLadysif oh, if we were on turn
one and you have Blade and somethingon the very right, was really good

(59:52):
to discard play Blade. But no, now you know, you have to
actually think about some stuff. AndI feel like that's better for the game,
Like it will raise the level ofplayers because now they have to think,
like, Okay, where's it gonnago. You know, if I
know where it's gonna go, whatcar do you go? If this car

(01:00:14):
goes, do I still win?That car goes, do I still win?
Right? Then you get to weighout your options. So I feel
like, uh, it was agood change, and I feel overall this
OTA was a a great thing.Uh for the meta game. They're changing
it up, making sure some decksyou know, excel, some stay quiet

(01:00:37):
for a little bit, But overallI think it was a good OTA.
How about yourself? Yeah, Iagree. I think that it's always interesting
after these big changes to cars tosee the meta just be like I don't
know what to play, and yeah, you kind of see people are like
just trying out things, like I'veran across a lot of sar on decks.

(01:01:00):
The really last couple of days,and I'm like, okay, so
that buff that they did a littlebit ago. People are going, okay,
well now that this is gone,let me try all reliable. Yeah
over here, it's funny, sureinto either Red Skull or Vision and then
just like win from there with Taskmaster. Yeah, it's crazy, and I'm

(01:01:22):
glad, Like that's the thing.You know, they bring, they nerf
things, so they bring stuff backand then they nerve those things and then
bring the others back. You know. It makes the metagame not so stagnant.
So and like I said, Ido enjoy when they do release cards
on a weekly basis, but theprices at which they sell these cards is

(01:01:46):
insane. Out of hand, it'sinsane, like if you're not ahead by
you know, fifteen keys, you'regonna be falling behind, you know.
And where at that point now whereit's just like we have no keys.
So of course, yeah, we'renot gonna buy the car because it's not
a great card. I'd rather waittill it's three thousand, or if I

(01:02:08):
get it randomly, if I getit randomly from one of the caches from
the Spotlights, I'd be happy.I'm just like Okay, cool collection complete
a yet, but for now,you know, I will save my keys
that I don't have, so I'mright there with you. I don't see
spending a key on this thing willinglyanytime soon at all. It just likelihood

(01:02:34):
will be like, oh, thisspotlight with something else because they're trying to
get you to get it, andI'll end up getting some dumb ass variant
that I didn't want the first place. But it's frustrating. It should not
be this expensive to just play thegame, especially when all of their trailers
we see them all the time too, because you know, we're always looking
at Marvel Snap. We talk aboutMarvel Snap our phones. Hear it.

(01:02:55):
It's always the first. Like,you don't have to spend one hundred dollars
to play the games like bitch wedo, because you can to keep up
to play competitively, you know,like and that's the thing, Like I
enjoy playing the game at the levelthat I'm at because it doesn't make the

(01:03:15):
game stale. You know, youplay against a lot of these good players.
You end up on their stream sometimesand it's just like what Don says,
you don't only play that content creator, you're playing their entire chat So
it's you versus like a thousand pluspeople because they have those people to correct
their mistakes. I don't have anybodybehind my back looking like was that the

(01:03:38):
correct move? No, it's Irely on myself. You know, I'm
not saying, you know, thecontent creators don't rely on themselves. But
everybody makes mistakes, so do they, But they make less mistakes because everybody
is watching their moves. So sofeel good when you actually win against a

(01:04:00):
content creator because you didn't just beatthem, you beat their entire you know,
chat room. Yeah, you're like, yeah, I guess my Hello
deck is unstoppable. Bit so yeah. Unfortunately Don cut out here at the
end. But was was there anythingelse you'd like to add before we end

(01:04:25):
the show? I was talking toa few people over the week about the
roadmap that so we can wait fornext week when Don has good connection,
because I think that'd be something Ilove to hear his opinion on too,
If that's cool. Yes, yes, yes, I totally forgot about that,

(01:04:47):
even to a picture of that.I do, and we'll probably make
it at a h a earlier time. You know. We things did run
a bit late because of technical difficulties, but hopefully I do want to discuss
this. Sorry everybody, Uh,it was on the docket. But with
the O T O t A happening, if we do get another O TA,

(01:05:09):
Wi'll make it quick so that waywe could discuss all the other stuff.
We We do want to get intothe nitty gritty, and we don't
enjoy when people lose out on stuff, especially us as players, right,
you know, we we are supportingthis game that we love to play,
and it's it's not like any othergame, any card game that we've played

(01:05:31):
before. I mean, I comefrom a background of playing Yu yi Oh,
from playing Magic, from playing Pokemon, you know, and I've I've
played those card games, but thiscard game is something different. You know.
I also played what was that that, the World of Warcraft one the
Heartstone. Yeah, so I meanI get it. You know, I

(01:05:54):
haven't probably oh No, I probablyspent a lot way more money on y
yi Oh than this game. YeahI was. Yeah, I think Yoh
was the the number one thing Igot into. Besides yeah, Yu gioh

(01:06:15):
was my card game at the time. You know, I didn't spend as
much on like other card games.But yeah, I mean it's such a
refreshing take on card games. Andit's not what's cool is it's not something
you you have to hold, right, you don't have to bring it to
a friend's house to play. Youcould be like, hey, are you
on, give me your your youryour your room code, you know,

(01:06:39):
and we'll play a match. Right. And it's funny because we actually don't
do that quite often. We're justlike, yeah, let's play some random
people because it's it's a live personmost of the time, so you get
to test your skills against them.And it's it's such a refreshing way to
play. And and because we loveit, we want to see it excel.

(01:06:59):
So you know, when when youpromise things, it's expected that you
follow through. Right. So whenif you're a company, your word is
all your you know, we takefrom you. You know, you don't
you don't give us anything. Youknow, we technically all compensate you for

(01:07:21):
what we get right our time,our money you know, becomes your money,
you know, as a company.So but you could see that people
do love the game that much tocontinually do that, Like, hey,
if you just make it a littlebit cheaper, if you make it more

(01:07:42):
accessible, they're willing to spend thatmoney. So and it's something I do
want. I can't believe I forgotabout it, but yeah, it is
something I want to discuss next week. Uh, what will will go into
a deep dive of somebody made ahost and they have the roadmap, they
have the things that they promised andthe things that they left out on the

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newest roadmap. So we'll go overall that stuff on the next cast.
So please join us on the nextcast live if you want to, if
you if you want to leave youryour thoughts about it. So Uh,
I just want to shout out thosepeople that that that brought it to our

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attention because you know what we dotry and bring you guys uh content to
keep you guys entertained. So weappreciate you guys giving us the feedback.
We appreciate you guys following us onMarvel snap Cube, the Marvel Snap podcast
on Instagram and Cube, Marvel Snapon TikTok Uh. If you haven't followed

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us, please consider following us.Uh, leave us a follow on at
gg mark Lee, on Twitch andon YouTube. This is where we provide
live and you know playback options.So anything else you want to add Dakota

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just thanks so much for just thedms you guys. It is an awesome
time getting to just talk to youindividually about whatever's going on, like when
you're letting me know like, ohman, I'm my game bluggy right now.
It's I like seeing this stuff becauseit's something we can bring up too,
you know. And it's enjoyable tohave conversations with you guys, seeing

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you kick ass on the ladder,sitting you ass on conquests. You send
me your favorite variants, everything,please send us everything. Yeah, it
has just been a joy to havethis community that we're building right now,
and I appreciate you all big time, Like it has been a blast to
be I get I run another pagewhere I do phishing content because that's my

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other love passion. But I haveto say making memes for cubed and uh
and being alongside Mark and Don withthis has been just so much fun.
I just get so excited and it'slike, hey, normally I'd be asleep
right now. I know most ofyou guys probably are, and I really
am bummed that Don's having connection issues, but straight up for us to be

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able to sit here and talk toyou guys about this game. It's just
it is so exciting. Yeah,I mean when we're when we're at work
in between our breaks going off andwe're loud, we got everyone knows me
playing marbles. We're always anybody,but we do. We definitely want to

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talk about next week, just kindof the road everything else. But thank
you all so much for the loveand support. Please describe, tell you
help us grow. And yeah that'sthat's that's my last shout out. Love
you guys. If you guys wantto, if you guys want anything else
more specific, let us know.Just like the coda mentioned, uh,

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he does a lot of our ourour communications with other people. But sometimes,
you know, don and I jumpin there and you know, I'll
text somebody and I myself enjoy itas well, you know, like I
enjoy seeing what you guys are goingthrough because my perspective is only the games
that I have been playing. Sowhen I see the nuances that you guys

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go through, and you know,wherever you are at in the ladder or
on conquest or you know whatever gamemode, or you know how your feelings
are about something that Second Dinners hasdone, it's it's enjoyable because we're like
you guys, you know, we'rejust regular guys playing Marvel Snap like that's

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our bio, right, like wewe aren't trying to be the top one
hundred. We're not trying to beto tell you what to play, because
you know, we're learning the gameas much as you are. You know,
Unfortunately we're not in full content creationmode. We don't spend all our

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time just drafting up decks, goingthrough the little nuances we ourselves. You
know, we what they call netdeck right where it's just like we look
at somebody else's deck that they createdand it's like, oh, that could
work, but I'll put my owntwist on it, right, So we
don't copy it per se, butwe'll we'll take inspiration from it. So

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and it's the people that actually taketheir time and have to you know,
they do that. You know,they're they're they have more following of course
because they have the time for that. But we appreciate you guys giving us
your time even though you know wewe don't do that. But all in
all, thank you so much,and hopefully we will catch you guys on

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the next episode of Cube. TheMarvel Snap podcast Yeah, I have a
good night, does heay bye bye