We will be "Russian" to obtain Red Guardian

We discuss the newest patch and the upcoming card, Red Guardian.

Episode Transcript

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Hey guys, and welcome to episodeeleven of Cubed the Marvel Snap Podcast.
Tonight, we actually have another OTA, well not OTA, it was actually
a patch that we're gonna talk about. I know it happened about last week,
but you know, we do this. We try to do this Monday
or Tuesdays and every Monday Tuesday.But you know, we've only missed one

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so far, so we're not doingtoo bad. But typically we're we're always
behind all the other content creators becausethey get a heads up, like they
actually make videos before the patches becausethey're privy to that information before we are.
And then the only thing they haveto do is withhold their video and

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before and like basically like put iton pause and then like it's already uploaded,
they just post it right when theyget that in the okay to post
that video, which it kind ofsucks for upcoming content creators, but it
is what it is. You gotto play the game. Hopefully someday we'll
be part we'll be privy to thatinformation. We could get you guys this

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information sooner. So we're gonna gointo the patch that we just had the
last week, and then we'll gointo the cards that came out last week
and the card that's coming out thisweek. So to start it off,
I just want to say thank youBOKCHOI, thank you Dark Helmet for joining
me today again as always, alwaysa pleasure. So we'll go we'll get

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right into it, you know.So the first change that I want to
talk about is this the one thatwe all I don't know. I don't
know if you guys liked it.I kind of didn't, but it's excuse
me. Eliath. So Eliath wasa changed from a six cost two power
to a six cost eight power,and his effect change he used to be

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on revealed destroy all unrevealed enemy cardshere. Now he's changed to onn reveal
remove the text from all unrevealed enemycards here. Now, I want to
start with you, Dakota. Howdo you feel about the change to this
card. I'm not a big fanof it. When we're going off of

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let's just talk about the show LokiEliath. His whole premise is he just
destroys everything in his path. Hetouches, he's gone, And I think
that to change it to where itkeeps the card or removes text, I
don't know it's it's a little muchfor me. I feel like there are
some other ways we can still workaround. It's in a way, it's

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like basically taking like to put itin perspective, it would be like Galactus
only kills like one lane as opposedto how powerful he really should be,
right, Like, you're nerving himso hard that to me, it just
he's gonna be He peers after this, like no one's playing him anymore because
you've lost that epic power that youknow. I mean, it was so

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fun to have your control and everything. I hate it. I'm really upset
they did this. I understand thatthey're trying to move things around, but
initially it's basically a sixth cost nowGuardian card, you know, the Red
Guardian has a similar text, youknow, And I'm like, oh,
that's kind of annoying. Okay,that's How do you feel about the change

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on this stun? Yeah, Imean I don't know how I feel.
Obviously, a life has been thebane of so many people's existence for so
long, you know, there's areason that's been nerved down so many times,
and you're just like, ah,oh oh, yeah, they have
a life, and it's destroyed waytoo many of my games. At the

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same time, I don't really knowwhat to make of this new change.
Like I like that they increase hispower to give him a little more workability,
but the fact that it's just removingthe text from an unrevealed card,
I mean, it could have somebenefit, but I just I'm torn on
how I feel about it. It'sone of those ones that time is gonna

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tell. Yeah, I agree,And I mean I thought the change initially
was really good because, like Imentioned in previous podcasts, I did play
a lot of Thanos and he withinthe first few weeks or a few days
of this change has once only beenaround a week. It was doing pretty

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well. But I feel once peopleknew exactly okay, well, I don't
have to worry about Eliath killing mycards anymore. I feel like it's harder
to use a six to eight.I mean, especially with Red Hulk out
there, A six to eight justdoesn't cut it anymore. If you if

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you skip one turn, you gotthey have a six fifteen Red Hulk,
you know, skip one turn withenergy. So it's kind of hard to
to to make this feasible, andit's tough to say that this card,
like Dakota mentioned, like if we'retrying to make this card or cards kind

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of like what they do in comicsor in the shows, this was kind
of a bad way of doing itbecause, like you said, it does
destroy things in the show. AndI enjoyed exactly you know what this card
did at first, but I doget that it was kind of ruining comebacks,

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right. It basically made a lotof turn sixes where if you could
only play one card, it became, you know, the nail in the
coffin. Whereas if you're playing likea combo deck, then you're just like,
okay, well I gotta choose whereI gotta play a love So only
combo decks were able to probably youknow, out match Aliath. Now I

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have a question to post for youguys. If you guys could change this
to make it more feasible and usableand fair to keep its original effect,
how would you guys go about that? Just like roughly, I don't need

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like certain answers like this is theway, Like, how do you guys
think it would be to balance thiscard by making it go to a similar
original effect. Anybody could jump inif you if you have an idea I

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think. So here's what I think. Okay, I think what you need
to do is actually kind of putan effect on it where you're winning the
lane, right, m okay,so almost put the the omega red.
Put it back to six' tworight. Oh yeah, where you're going

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to be. I mean that's notgoing to change it that much obviously,
right, Yeah, but you won'tbe able to play in an empty lane.
Right. So if there's an epulane, you know you're not going to
get a lia there, right becauseyou know it's a tide lane. So
I think if they change that thatmight get it back to its original.
It puts that extra stipulation. Youknow, you have to be winning,

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you have to be winning the lane, you have to have prio. Right.
It puts an extra little thing inthere, but it does make it
an extra condition that might help.That makes sense. Yeah, So change
it back to a six to twoand b if you're winning this lane,
basically destroy any unrevealed face down cardsbecause not only do you have to be

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winning, but you have to havepriority. So I mean that makes sense
that that that's a good change tomake it very much even because if you're
attempting to win one lane. Itis hard to to what is it get
priority? Right, so if youhave to not only be winning one lane,

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you have to be winning both lanes. Now, what do you think
about this? Uh? It changesback to a six maybe maybe a little
bit higher than a six two,But it destroys the lowest enemy card in

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this location, because we have ashan chi that destroys like ten and above,
right, do we have cards thatdestroy lowest? We have a what
is it? What's her name?She just got both we're gonna talk about
her. Uh kill kill lady thatstrike. Yeah, yeah, so I
mean, but what do you guysthink about that? Like it's like maybe
like a six five or something likethat, or I don't know, maybe

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it could work with a six eighttoo, because it destroys the lowest uh
sorry, lowest power card here.Or better yet, how about lowest original
power card here. Because that couldget rid of death uh uh death Hawk.
This is his name, dark Hawk. It could get rid of dark

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Hawk. It could get rid ofwhat's the iron Man, you know,
because if it's the original, it'sgoing to bypass the ongoing Yeah, I
don't know, it's just just athought. Obviously it's a hard card to
really balance, right, and that'swhy we've seen so many changes back and

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forth. Right, Yeah, Idon't know. Like I said, I
think this this card is kind ofcutting to lead into a deck style.
Right. So now that we're sayingsomething like Red Guardian coming out this week,

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right now, we're going to havelike removed cards, which means we're
probably going to see more of thosetype of cards, which it might fit
into a new archetype. In thatsense, this is just a way of
being like, hey, this hasbeen a bane to a lot of the
community for a long time. Soif we do this, we start shifting
it into this new arch type.I don't know, that's my best theory

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of maybe what's going on. Sothen they have okay, this is the
first six and that arch type andyou just kind of move down from there.
Yeah, that makes sense because youhave Enchantris, you have a rogue
well basically for ongoing who else Imean you could play Cosmo and something like
that for on reveals, So itmakes sense. Well, other cards like

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take away Somebody's ability to use itseffect, Enchantress would be another card that
kind of fits into there. Echowould be another Yeah, yeah, so
make that the couple. Yeah,so I get I guess, yeah,

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if they're trying to go for thattype of arc type. I mean,
it's interesting because it's very niche,right, but it's not gonna be uh
usable until we get more So yeah, all right, that's cool. You
know. I do like your ideathough, like of changing back to six

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to two and and uh reiterate whatyou just said, so it'd be a
six to two, but you haveto be winning the lane. Yeah,
okay, yeah, I like thatthat that would probably be the best workaround,
right because, like you said,there's another stipulation. All right,

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So, uh, the next changethat we got was it was just a
wording change. This kind of didn'tgo out, but they just changed wording
kang. The conquerors wording got change, Uh, look at what your opponent
did, then restart the turn withoutkang. Now they just put look at
what your opponent did, then restartthe turn without this. I'm guessing this

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is because you may get multiple kangs. So if you can't, like,
uh, there's that time library orsomething like that that that gives you a
copy of the last card drawn.So I guess with the previous effect,
if you use Kang, you loseboth kangs. But if you use this
one, or if you if youuse one Kang now with this wording,

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you still keep the other Kang.That's what I'm guessing. So we don't
have to dive too much into that. Uh. But the next card was
actually a pretty good change in myopinion, because it gives, uh,
this card more play. And sothe new the card I'm talking about is

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Lady Death Strike. So her effectwas she was a five five costs four
power, and she was an onreveal that said destroy each card here with
less power than this. But nowit changed to a five costs seven power
and it says on reveal, destroyeach card here with three or less power.

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Let's start with you, don howdo you how do you feel the
change of this card went kind oflike it Now again you're you're aiming more
targeted, but it also feels likeyou're getting a little power on the field.
Right, So if you play thisinto a lane that you know they
start stacking early. Let's say you'replaying against a high EMO deck, right,

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and you know they have their MistyNight sitting there, right, and
you're just like, man, thisthing keeps giving power. Well, not
only do you take two power awayfrom them plus whatever power they we've gotten
for sending that, you also putseven power on the field. That's a
ten power swing, which is,you know, enough to really do some
good stuff. Dex. Right ifyou let's say, what do we see

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a ton of right now? Well, let's see, I'd say, mobius,
this helps, but yeah, mobius, uh, this will clear that
right up. I think the effectactually works out well, So you're not
like, oh man, let metry to buff this up and destroy something

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so that I actually get high enoughto do it. I think, like
I said, if you destroy onecard, you know, a five nine,
a five ten again, not greatbut not bad. How do you
feel about Have you tried this?And I know you play a lot of
destroy Dakota, So how do youfeel about the change to this card?

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You know, first I was upsetbecause I wanted to start doing stuff with
sureI and other stuff. But youknow, even with that, because she
was a four okay, cool eight, because of the inflation of all these
costs or the power, she stillwouldn't get played. Right So now,
right, like everything that we're fightingis either discard or annihilist claw man.

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This card answers all those problems.Right now, you have Dracula in that
lane. Bye bye, it's gone. You have but you threw your void
over. You're gonna send it tome. I don't get crap, it's
gone. Like you really can answera lot of the problems that they try
to fill your lane with along withyou know, I really didn't try this
as much in destroy deck. Itwas more of like my own version of

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a clog deck with her. Soit was like, if I didn't get
annihilist, I can avoid I canyou know. It kind of was a
fun way to move things around andfor it. I think that this is
something that has a lot of potentialas we get new cards, as we
get new things that are going tobe a little bit low costs. So
yeah, I mean I'm for it. I think it's pretty cool. Yeah.

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I feel like this card was achange for the better because a lot
of the cards that you were targetingwith this card when it was four power
and it's old effect, it wasalready lower than four right because it was
always destroy any card that's less powerthan this. If I'm not mistaken,
I'm just gonna go back back here. So it used to be destroying each

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card here with less power than this. So you can even destroy anything with
four, so it always have tobe three or less. Right, So
when when Mobius was on the rise, and now he's back on the rise,
you know, almost everyone's playing himin the deck. So it's useful
for that. It's useful for Angela'sthat haven't gotten buffed. It's useful for

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bishops that haven't gotten buffed. Uh, there's another card, Hope Summers.
Oh my god. Wait wait,Hope Summers is four four. Yeah,
not Hope Summers. It's Elsa Bloodstone. So Elsa Bloodstone is another one that
you know because people are running thatsilky smooth deck, including me, you

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know. So Lady death Strike allthe more becomes a useful card because it
just gets more power, so you'renot afraid of putting it out on the
field on turn five because you're notlike, oh man, it's only gonna
have four more power in that lane. Now it has seven more power,
which is you know, it's notpremium stats because there's four tens, but

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its effect is probably one of themost useful. Right now, seeing all
these cards that are buffing their smallercards, So I feel like they did
good with this card. I thinkit has more play if I'm not mistaken,
I haven't checked the stats or anything, but at least destroy has another

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thing and it's arsenal that they cantry and change it up. I know
they made the change to what's hisname, saber Tooth, So maybe they're
just giving more options and you know, only time will tell, Like Don
says, we'll see if something cankick it out of the main deck,

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because it's kind of hard to kicksomething out of the destroyed deck because there's
so many usefulness. Everything kind ofis cohesive already, so for them to
kind of change it up, itwould be very niche. So the next
card that we had changed was Pixie, and this was a pretty fast change,

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I think, if I'm not mistaken, it was only out for what
like three weeks, right, andthey got changed. Yeah, so the
change goes. It kept the samecost and power, which is to cost
one power. The old effect wason reveal shuffle the cost of all cards
in your deck that's already there.The new effect is on reveal shuffle the

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base costs of all cards in yourdeck that started there. I don't even
know what to say. Uh,do you want to start us off to
go to Oh they changed it allright? I mean at this point it's

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it's pretty much it just is whatit is. I believe didn't play this
card too much, so the changedoesn't affect much any of my deck building
that I got going on. Soyeah, I really don't have much to
comment on this one. Okay,how about yourself done? You know what,

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I am so very happy that thisa six thousand token card, right
because obviously this had to be asix thousand token card with as much as
so many of us have played it, we've played it so much that they
just had to change the card.My goodness. No, at the end

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of the day, I don't thinkthis really changes a whole lot. Obviously,
this card has always been heavy RNGin the first place. You hope
that you get a bunch of likehigh power, low cost, but let's
be real, like it almost neverhappens. Your six is switch with sixes

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and the consistency is just like,oh no, your six switches with a
five, right, Like, Imean, it's not because there's no consistency
with it. So how much withthis card Okay, it's it is what

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it is. Yeah, sorry,I didn't mean to click that, but
yeah, I mean I agree withuh the I don't even see the I'm
just gonna read it. I'm notsure if I'm understanding it correctly. So
it used to be shuffle the cards, shuffle the cost of all cards in

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your deck. That started there,and then this one says shuffle the base
costs. Oh you know what,I think it can no longer. Okay,
so six can can't switch with sixanymore? Right? If that if
I'm not mistaken, because a lotof people were complaining that a six would
shuffle and then it become a sixagain because there's another six in the deck,

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So now it can't. It hasto be something different other than six.
So I guess that's good. Imean, rang is gonna be rang,
so at least it says that itwon't be the same cost as it
originally is. I mean, yeah, I think that's initially meant to do

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in the first place. But thenit just the coding and the wording and
go that way. They made itwhat it was supposed to be originally.
You know, that's great. Throwingmy six thousand tokens. Okay, exactly
whatever, and that all my mymy keys, like just the keys and

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six thousand tokens, you know whatever. Yeah, it's it totally could have
been a three thousand, you knowcoin card like a pool four. But
this was this is what I meantfor it to go. That I thought
you were done, and then thisis a this was for Pixie the time.
It works every time. So soall right, the next change we

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got to, uh Sandman. SoSandman was still stays a five costs.
He changed from a four power toa seven power, and he used to
be ongoing players can only play onecard a turn. Now he's an on
reveal. Players can only play onecard next turn. So typically, if

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you only are in a six turngame and you don't have any what is
it discounts you this only works onturn six. Now, how do you
how do you feel about the changeto this card, Dawn, I'm torn.

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I kind of feel like this thiskilled some of the like Ramp Sandman
decks that were out there now thatyou could only do it for one turn.
On the plus side, you know, it does take a little more
thought and intuition to when you're gonnaplay this, and it also doesn't pigeonhole

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you for the whole game. Soso I some good, I see some
bad. I think you're actually gonnasee maybe the car a little bit because
of this, which you know,say which wayever you want to go,
whether that's a good thing or bad. But I didn't see this card that
often, so that power is anice change. I'm not sure what's going

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to do as farr As play forthe card. Okay, how about yourself,
Dakota. It's interesting, a reallyinteresting tech card. If you're someone
like me who really loves to justscrew with people and use this, there's
another way around it. Now youcan do your electro and just viper that

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thing over to their side, andnow they're stuck with only having one car
per turn, and you got thesexual energy. So I'm just gonna say
you have to be stuck with this. If you will still want to play
at the Sandman style, just bea little sneaky with it. You can
still do it. It's it's notsomething that that I'm happy about because I
did like the old style, butI want to see what their plan is.

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We got a lot of interesting cardsmoving through and they did this for
something. Right, it's the samething where they changed, like Don said,
they changed theliath because now we haveRed Guardian and there's something about removing
texts. They're moving towards some newarchetype, right, so we'll see what
we have going forward into this.They really felt like this deck was just
so rampant that they had to doit. I didn't see it as much

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moving into this point for this changeto happen that, you know, it's
really rare to come across it andbegin with. Obviously with Claybolt, it
was something that people tried, butit lasted like what two days, and
then it was gone. So Idon't know's it's it's not going to break
the bank. At first, Iwas upset. It was like, man,

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why are you gonna do this?You know, like I enjoyed having
this. It was an archetype,right, we'll see what we got.
Yeah, So, like you said, it kind of destroyed its own arc
type and it kind of sucks becauseit was one of those decks that kind
of went into the meta game andjust be like, okay, let's go

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one for one, right, Imean, besides Jeff and what's his name?
War Machine? Yeah, you couldn'treally get past this card because on
say you on turn five you playit right or turn four, who's gonna

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waste an enchantress to do? Youknow, using enchantress on this when you
might only have one turn left andchantress on turn five or six or yeah,
five or six is like it's notfeasible. So people would just be
like, okay, let's go forthe one for one, see if I
could win. So I don't knowit now. It's kind of weird because

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I saw somebody playing a ramp deckand they, U, what is it?
They electrode into this next turn,so they electrode turned three and then
Sandman turned four and I was like, well, I still have turned six
to do whatever I want. Soit kind of like it kind of shut

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itself down. I know some peoplewere saying that this was probably a good
change for Sandman in a shury deck, like turn four you do Shurry,
turn five you do Sandman, youhave a five fourteen And then they could
only play one card, right,So obviously your card is either task Master

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or you know, red Skull,so it kind of has some play there,
but it's like you ruined an arctype. So you could put a
single card in another archtype like doesn'tmake sense. You know, I'd rather
have a Sury deck and a Sandmandeck, not Sandman in a Shury deck.

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You know. So I don't know. It's like Don was saying,
maybe they have something planned or Idon't know. It's it's it's it's hard
to say. Now, why areyou shaking your head? They're making up
as they go. Yeah, youknow, it's like you know when you

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when you have one card right,you're like, oh, you know,
maybe they got a plan for this, And then you get to the next
where you're like, maybe they havea plan for this one. They get
to this one's like there might bea plan for this one, you know.
So so I'm getting to the pointwhere, you know, I don't
think they know what. They're justkind of, you know, grasping its
straws. And here we are,Yeah, I mean we're we're we're we're

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all peons on the what is itjust on where where they're little puppets or
whatever? You know, we haveno say they control all the strings,
and like we're saying, time willtell. I mean, we hope they
do have plans. They're not justdoing this to be like, no,

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we want this deck to be goodright now because we want to sell cards,
right or yeah, randomly uh youknow what is it? Name in
a fish jar and then they justpull on. Oh, time to nerve
this card, right, or it'stime to change this card so that it's
while there's so many other cards thatpeople have been talking about for months now

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that they haven't changed at all.Captain America, Captain America, Captain America.
Like one of your most iconic cardsis Trash. Yeah, it's like,
come on, man, like makesome I don't know if they're waiting

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for Captain America for like, comeon, it's Sam Wilson's Captain America.
You could change this Captain America ifyou wanted to. Yeah, Captain America.
Okay, now this would be interesting. Would they create a you know
how there's a spider Man and thenthere's Miles Morales Spider Man. Right,

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do you think they do Captain inAmerica and Sam Wilson Captain in America?
Oh see why because we already haveFalcon But would we have forgotten we have
Sam Sam Wilson. Now think aboutthis though, right, Okay, And
you're saying like, Hey, okay, so Captain America is coming out.

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How many knockoffs Captain America's did weget this season? Red Guardian and a
US Agent? Oh my gosh,I'm just like, and there yet,
and he's sitting by himself exactly,and and they're actually not terrible cards,
right, well maybe US agents terrible, but at least he has a h

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I don't know, do you think? I know? I think I think
Captain America could outrank what is it, US Agent just because US agent four
five six? Right, you don'treally play all your four five six is
in one lane, so at most, actually we'll we'll talk about that.
We're gonna talk about that later.So yeah, oh yeah, we'll go

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we'll go into that in a bit. But yeah, buff Captain America.
So the next change that we haveis to Shadow King. He stayed the
same cost, same power, butit says on Reveal his old effect was
on Revel set all cards here totheir original base power, but now it's

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on Revel set all cards here totheir base power. Can you guys think
what that would change? I'm notactually too sure what the change was,
so I'm gonna read it again Unrevealedset all cards here to their original base
power, and then now it's setall cards here to their base power.

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I think they're just they're removing originalfrom it just because the original may change.
I don't know, So it's justI think there it's they're they're trying
to make it less wordy for maybenew players, so we don't have to
go into that too much. Sothe next card, we let's spend twenty

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minutes talking about this original. Mean, okay, let's look at Webster's definition
of original. All right, Sothe next change we got was too strong

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guy. He keeps the same costof three, his same power of three.
His old effect was ongoing. Ifyour hand is empty, he gets
plus six power. Now he's changedyou ongoing plus six power if your hand
has one or fewer cards. Allright, let's start with you, don
How do you feel about this change? I like this change. It actually

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gives you more of a chance topull it off, you know, because
if you clear your hand out andthen you draw one on your last turn,
you know, it kind of suckedin the past where you couldn't have
any cards in your hand. Nowthis meets meeting the requirement. It's so
much easier than it used to be. That honestly, I like the change.

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I've actually seen him played against me, I don't know, two or
three times this season, which istwo or three times more than any other
season I think ever, So uhyeah, I like the adjustment. Okay,
how about yourself, Dakota. Okaythat you have he looks like Larry

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David. Who's Larry David? Ishe is? He looks like Larry David.
He just needs hair on the top. Well, I gotta make a
beam about that. Anyway, I'mglad. I'm glad that they kind of
gave a little work change this guy, because shoot, I don't think I've
ever actually played him since Pool oneor whatever pool he was in when he

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first showed up, Like, yeah, a strong guy, and no point
has he ever worked. So it'scool to see he has a chance again,
like he's actually and I wouldn't sayagain, he finally has a chance
to be in the game. Andit's cool that he's running with Discard,
which we already know has such asolid archetype. We already have good lineups.

(34:52):
Yeah, I think it's it's prettycool. I'm for it, and
he's he's actually showing up in gameswhen I'm fighting people, I see him.
Oh wow, here we go strongGuy. Okay, he's made it.
Yeah, I think for this card, they finally make him ah a

(35:13):
possibility to run in discard because thisbasically covers if you have Apocalypse in your
hand, right, So if you'renot gonna play Apocalypse and you want your
Dracula to hit him on the verylast turn, then you're gonna still have
Apocalypse back into your hand. Sothis kind of gives leeway for Strong Guy

(35:36):
to still get that effect while discardingall cards in your hand, probably using
modoc and then getting the the Apocalypseback. So I'm all for it.
It's another card that you could kindof use in discard. I don't know
if there's like too many variants ofdiscard you can run, but it's nice

(36:01):
to know that they're trying to buildoptions, just like you know with destroy
Uh don't have seen him sometimes,but it's like more niche like you know,
it's not still not the standard.So it's nice to see that they're
making changes for older cards. Allright. So the last card in the

(36:28):
patch was Zabo Zaboo Mafu, sohe changes. He changed from a two
cost two power to a two costthree power. He gets a power,
but he changed from an ongoing yourfour cost cards cost one less minimum of

(36:51):
one to an on reveal until theend of your next turn. Your four
costs cards cost one. Four costcards cost one less. As I say,
I was like his tongue tire tunguetongue to so Dakota start us off

(37:12):
on this, like, how doyou feel this changes for in general?
Because Zabu has always been a strongcard, Like, if you're gonna play
fours, you run Zabu in it. But now, like, what is
this change for for Zabu? Itcompletely changes everything. This is the one
that I was upset with. Yeah, I know y'all have different opigons probably,

(37:36):
but it's to me, it's like, man, this goes. There's
no more of the shung cheat andTarkhawk or whatever you want to do here.
You can be completely smacked. Thisis done. If you want to
do it, you gotta make sureturn five are gonna play this, and
that just completely changes everything around.On your turn six, you're not gonna
want to put a two and athree out to do I just it completely

(37:57):
changes your setup, your lineup everything. I was enjoying the the hell not
the hell? What was it?It was a war machine? And sorry,
just to interject real quick, itdoesn't work with dark Hawk at all
anyways, Black Night, Yeah,we can't can't do all that crap because
dark Hawk's five now ruined it.It's you know, because of that.

(38:22):
I'm I do not like what they'vedone to Zabu. They completely murdered him.
And yeah, you gotta be morestrategic with it. But I liked
it. I like the young goingman. Just throw it down, So
I'm in pain. How about yourselfdone? How do you feel about this
change? I mean, let's behonest, this card has been slightly overpowered

(38:46):
for a very very long time.I agree. Yeah, it's allowed you
to cheat out a bunch of fourcards. It was about time that gets
changed. Right, You can stilldo a lot of interesting stuff with this
card if you want to play thosesix Well, first of all, they
already took away your ability to playdark Hawk with this card a while ago,

(39:09):
but you know, at least now, let's say on turn five you
can play this card and another threecost card, right, and then on
the next turn you can play twochords, So there's still ability to kind
of have it do its thing,but it's definitely reduced down quite a bit.

(39:31):
But again, I think it's goingto open up some other cards and
decks that we haven't seen for awhile. I agree. So, like
Dakota was saying earlier, like yeah, we we donn And I kind of
did like this change because Zaboo feltlike a cheat card for a long time.

(39:54):
Now he's more of a strategy card, right, so it's like you
have to pick and choose when youuse them, not like, okay,
turn two always plays Zabo because thatwas everybody's like, oh, why is
Zabu in the deck? Oh,because I'm running fours and on turn two
I'll play If I have Zabu,I play him. There's there's very rarely

(40:15):
another card that you're like, Okay, I'm gonna play this over Zabu because
on turn three I want to playa fore Coost. You know, it
cheats something out very easily. Sofor this change, I feel like now
you kind of actually have to thinkabout how you're gonna use Zabu, and

(40:35):
I feel that makes the game overallbetter. Right, people shouldn't get used
to like Okay, I'm always gonnaget this discount, you know, I
mean a lot of Sarah decks,you know, they play magic just to
get that extra turn. Zabu,you get this on turn two. You
know, I'm trying to think ofanything else that you could get turn two

(40:58):
that discounts because, uh, what'sher name? Ravona is turned three,
which makes sense because you're already playinglow power cards, right, so Zabu
he was playing high power cards.If you think about it, like,
there's a lot of four tens andSabu's changing them to three tens. So

(41:21):
that's kind of insane where Ravona she'schanging. You know, I guess the
worst that you could do on afterplaying Ravona is play Hobgoblin. So at
that point, it's four negative eightand you're playing a turn four. Typically

(41:42):
on turn four with without Zabo,you're playing a four ten, so that
still out matches Ravona. So Ithink that this change to the card like
that it makes it more strategic inits usefulness. Is like three costs?
I thought it was a two?Is it too? Is she too?

(42:04):
Okay? What's she had three before? About dark Hawk? I completely forgot
they changed to a five that's howlong its been since I played him.
I've just up said that I can'tdo that anymore. I should have been
upset back then. Okay, yeah, Ravona is two three, but so
even then, So say, ifyou play Ravona on two, the word

(42:28):
the best you can do on turnthree is a negative three power, right,
I mean yeah, because I'm tryingto think, like there's not anything
that's big power that can do,like right if or old can do?
Like did you think of something else? Do you could? Still you can

(42:54):
run? Man? Why my friendnegative? Right? Okay, yeah,
I mean it does give you negativepower, So I get that, which
makes sense because you're you're yes,you had it on three, which you
know, uh, negative decks arenow running Silock instead of Zabu. Right,

(43:15):
so it's Silock and Ravona instead ofZabu and Ravona, which I don't
know, why not run Silog Zabuand Ravona. I don't know. It's
just just a thought, but it'sit's the thing about cheating out power,
where you know, mister negative doesbuff your cards in a way, but

(43:38):
it's still putting negative power. Youknow, It's it's putting negative power on
your side, which is you know, it's a it's a what is it?
A risk, high risk high reward? Right, So Zabu wasn't high
risk high reward. It was kindof all reward. Yeah, So I
mean I get I get why theychange it, so I'm here for it.

(44:01):
I hope they make changes like thisto better the game state instead of
having people just cheat their way toeasy wins. So with that said,
do you guys have anything else aboutthe patch? Do you do you think?
Or what are you guys looking forwardto the next patch? I hate

(44:23):
it all, man, We'll seewhat the next thing comes. You know.
The good news is like these patchesalways give us something fresh to work
with, right, Like, theone thing about this game is like you
can't just have one deck, oneset of cards and be like I'm good

(44:44):
for the rest of the time.You have to constantly be changing and adjusting
and kind of making yourself better indifferent ways. Right Like, all these
little changes, like you know,some of them might seem like nothing,
right, but we might end upseeing some amazing new decks and new archetypes,

(45:07):
new playing styles. Where Like thispast season I've seen more decks on
the ladder than I've ever seen right. You know. Luckily, you know
I'm in now, I don't reallyhave to worry about it. So yeah,
so you know, I agree likehaving a you know, there's not

(45:30):
one top deck. I mean,there are more consistent decks where destroy is
still probably one of the more consistentones and Discard, which is funny to
say that Discard is probably one ofthe better ones. But there is a
diverse meta game right now. Youhave the silky smooth deck, you have

(45:52):
what is it, you just runAngela in other decks. You have bounced
decks that are are typically good rightnow too, So it's just like it
gives a good variety of the gamestate. Nobody's playing Thanos anymore, which
kind of sucks because they could makeit in a way where Thanos is viable
but not overpowered, but maybe that'sfor the future. So it sucks that

(46:15):
they're cutting out some archetypes where ifthey just kind of like nerf them or
well, I mean they'd nerf thehell out of thought Noos, but if
they kind of did like a balancingof the card instead of nerving, right
like, hopefully that's something they dobecause the next patch that we're supposed to
get is probably the twenty fourth ofthis month, so hopefully we see more

(46:38):
changes that will improve the metagame,not in a way that powers up one
specific deck, but makes more viablethat you know, you don't know,
Like you said, don you won'tknow what you're facing. And it's nice
because right right now I'm seeing alot of discard. But you know,

(47:00):
it's a variety of discard. Now, so I say, NERF, let's
take him out a dead horse,all right. So uh now we'll go
into last week's card, which Ican safely admit I don't have much to

(47:27):
say about this card, so I'llgo ahead and read it. I know
we read it last week, butI'll go ahead and read it again.
So it's a it was us agent. He's a two cost three power and
his ongoing is four five and sixcost cards here have negative three power,
So I'm gonna go The first thingI stated earlier was that the reason why

(47:52):
I feel he's a worst Captain inAmerica is because let's just go to Captain
in America real quick. Captain Americais at three to three and we all
know his effect. But for thoseof you that don't know it's ongoing,
your other cards here have plus one, So Captain in America alone could be

(48:15):
three are seven? No, no, sorry, three six because if other
cards here and you fill out thelane, each one of them has plus
one power, so that makes himat three to six. Now, if
we go to a US agent,very rarely are you playing four, five

(48:36):
and six costs in the same lane. And the only one I can think
about is the tribunal deck, whichthis one card alone will murder a tribunal
deck. But if the case isthat there's only one four, five or
six cost card in the lane,which typically that's the case, you're looking

(49:00):
at a two six. Oh maybehe is better than Captain America. Maybe
I eat my words, so Idon't know. I mean, yeah,
buff Captain America goes back to buffCaptain in America. But yeah, so

(49:21):
at most it makes him a twosix, which isn't too bad. But
that also means you kind of haveto wait to play him on four or
five or six, right, becauseif you play him on two, the
opponent will be like, well,don't play my four, five's or six
there, you know, So heends up being a two three. So
like, let's go and start withyou decode how did your your you're testing

(49:45):
of this card go? Because Iknow we all got the card if I'm
not my escape mistaken right? Dongot free variants because of the bug happens
to him, and he got thecard in two keys. No, I
ended up just buying it. Okay, okay, even better. You know
you didn't have to waste any keys. You got your keys back. You

(50:06):
just use tokens. So how didyour play testing go, Dakota? And
what what did you? How didyou how strong did you feel about this
card? So I kind of madelike a high evo toxic deck with him.
It's been going well. Honestly,I've been surprised at how much fun

(50:30):
this card has been because I thinkit's so outlandish that no one really knows
what the heck is going on withthis deck. So the idea is to
just you know, you you havemagic, so if you have more turns,
you know, it helps obviously,but the more negative you push you
get your abomination. Now you gotit's basically your version of mocking Bird,

(50:52):
you know, So you're you're puttingout a good amount of power has been
just destroying the enemy, and youhave luke K to answer the problem on
your side. Really, it's beenfun. I have to say, I've
been surprised at how much I've enjoyedthis card. It's been going really,
really well for me. I've beenstealing a lot of cubes from people because

(51:12):
they have no idea what the heckI'm doing. So it's been pretty fun,
all right. How about your how'syour playtesting going? Don well?
When I finally got this card afteryou know, several days of just waiting
for the stupid glitch to work.Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to
have the variants, but even stillit took me a while. I've had

(51:37):
fun with this card. To behonest, like I think it's I don't
think it's a great card. LikeI would easily say that You're right,
not a great card. But youknow what, you could have a lot
of fun when you're beating someone upwith us agent. You know, you
put it in a lane once youhave your loop cage. You could put
a heavy card there and they can'tdo anything about it. Right, But

(52:00):
I know one of the favorite thingsthat of the death that Dakota came up
with. You know, you puthim you put a swamp thing in a
lane and if you have Luke Cage, like, you're winning that lane already,
right Like, no matter what theyput there is going down in power.
And then you get a free abomination. So I think there's some interesting

(52:22):
things that that can come out withthis card. Again, yeah it's a
two three, but you you getone or two cards and all of a
sudden, you know, this cardreally helps out you play it in lane
with let's say they have Omega Red, right, this card instantly reus that

(52:45):
card down. I mean, Ithink it has more uses than what we're
giving credit for at this point.However, you know, time will tell
how much use of this card.The use I like that what what you
said about? Uh, what isit? The US Agent and what's his

(53:05):
name? The man Thing? That'sa pretty cool combination to have. I
know, Dakota, had you wererunning a deck like that, right,
Okay? Is that something that youyou just thought of or is it like
there was a amuse to your deck? Okay? So okay, So the

(53:30):
deck we have there is a sunSpot, has matt Us Agent, Magic
Cyclops, is that Hope Summers HopeSummers Blue Cage, High Evolutionary Man Thing,
Abomination Red Hulk and the last onewas Hulk. Okay, that seems

(53:52):
pretty pretty pretty interesting because I wasthinking about a little bit differently, where
if you go US Agent with manThing, you have Luke Cage. Uh,
you're kind of going into an ongoingthing because then you could probably do

(54:13):
like spectrum or something like that.So I don't know, it's it's uh,
it's something cool that you can do. Because if you do a US
Agent with man thing, man thingaffects US Agent. Oh okay, okay,
yeah, they affect each other.But if you have Luke Cage,
it's not terrible at all. Butthe only bad thing about those types of

(54:36):
decks is, I guess enchantris sowell we don't see her. We actually
don't see her too much anymore.So that's actually a probably a good thing.
But like I said, I didn'tdo too much testing with it.
I didn't really like it. SoI know some people ran into tribunal and

(54:57):
you use US Agent to do tribunalon it. The deck that I ran
to do the weekend missions was basicallya surfer deck that included him in it,
and I rarely ever played him,so I just got the four wins
and I was just like, I'mdone, don't ever have to play this

(55:20):
card again. But that's just me. I know a lot of other people
enjoyed it, especially you guys.So we'll go into the last part of
our topics, which is next week'sor tomorrow's card, Red Guardian. So
I'm gonna go ahead and read it. So he's a three costs three power

(55:43):
and he has an on reveal thatsays, afflict the lowest power enemy card
here with minus two power and removeits text. Now I'll let you go
ahead and get started with its donbecause you did mention you know the arc
type that might be removing effect.So what do you think about this card
in general? I think this isgonna be another one of those interesting we'll

(56:09):
see where it is in a littlebit kind of a card. Initially,
here's why I see it going againstI see it taking out your but where
Tod just escape the jet Quinjet.So this card instantly makes that card useless,

(56:34):
right, it becomes a zero costcard and it becomes, you know,
just nothing. It's a clogger itself, right or something like we've been
seeing a resurgence with Angela, right, Yeah, that's gonna help kitty Pride.
Right, you play this into aKitty Pride lane, all of a

(56:58):
sudden, it's not bouncing back.They just filled in their their whole guess
what. That's awesome? Yeah right. I think this is gonna have some
really interesting play styles, and likeI said, I'm guessing looking forward to
start to see more cards that dothis kind of thing where, uh,
you know, it removes the abilityfrom something you know before tonight actually didn't

(57:22):
think about building a dead of likeremoving powers or taking powers or something like
that. But I think there couldbe an interesting experiment to do, which
is awesome because you know I'm init and I can finally do it.
I love how you throw that inthere. All right, So how about

(57:42):
yourself to go to how do youfeel about this? Uh, this new
card? So I'm excited about thisone. I think that there's a lot
of potential where he can work inwith cards and just got passed. So
like they does strike, Okay,you're running the lane already that's got these
things. Let's kill all these lowcost cards that's already in there. Now

(58:05):
the lowest cost card something pretty impressive. They say they were able to put
something big out right mam, throwthis down there now that's gone. I
don't know. I think there's somepretty cool stuff you can do with this.
I'm excited to see, you knowit, And Surfer Decks is probably
gonna be rolling in there with Sebastian'sgonna be rolling in there with you know,
all the other ones to be costs, so I could see it has

(58:28):
the potential with Clog a lot ofother things too, Like it'd be cool
to just see where it goes.I got, I got high hopes on
this one. I'm not like i'dsay if I was to rate it from
like a zero to five and putit like a like a maybe a three,
I think this is some potential here. Okay, yeah, so uh,
this card really seems like a goodtech card. The only thing is

(58:53):
is it could backfire because it saysAfflick the lowest power card here. Oh
mindsets enemy card. Never mind,it can't backfire at all. So yeah,
I think wrong. So okay,I think this is probably something just

(59:14):
to tech in. I'm not reallysure what deck I would teck it in
just yet, if, like ifany of the top decks right now,
like I can't see it being inlike a silky smooth deck. I can't
really see it. Maybe in alow Ki deck I could see it working.

(59:34):
Or just what is it? Whatis the deck that the anti meta
deck? That's just I forgot whatit's called. But uh, it's just
a counter deck where it has Maximusin there. It has Marvel, Marvel,
Miss Marvel. It had Zabo,but I don't know if it runs

(59:55):
Sabo anymore so, but I hadSarah there you go, Sarah control.
Yeah, Sarah control. So Idon't know. Maybe it works in a
Sarah control deck. Probably takes theplace of Zabu maybe, so only time
will tell. Now for for thelast thing, how many keys do you

(01:00:16):
predict that it'll take you? Oneof them? I have five keys,
use five keys. It's gonna happenwith Don. It will somehow not give
it to me and I'll have touse all five keys. Well, I
mean, at least you'll get thisfive keys back and keep the variant,

(01:00:38):
right, Don, what's your prediction? What is your prediction on how many
it will take you? I'm goingto go with two, after you know,
finally having a four, five,six, seven key week No,

(01:00:58):
that was I'm thinking too. I'mgonna go with two this week. Okay,
well, I'm gonna be bold andsay four. I'm gonna be bold
and and say it's gonna take meone because I really don't like this week.

(01:01:19):
I am gonna buy the card becauseI do want the variant. But
this week it's Lady Death Strike,Red Guardian, and High Evolutionary, and
none of those variants look really goodexcept that Red Guardian one, which the
Victor Farrow version. The whole thiswhole month is basically Victor Farrow, and

(01:01:39):
that's what they've been doing. Idon't know if they've always done that before,
where the cards in the season arethe variants in the season past,
and all the variants in the spotlightsare all by one artist. So I'm
not too sure how many months they'vebeen doing that or ready, but I

(01:02:00):
noticed it like within the past twomonths. I don't know if it goes
any further back, so that that'spretty cool that they're they're kind of giving
artists some kind of spotlight. Ididn't enjoy the Pandart one because it was
like different, like it was likea different kind of artist that did it.

(01:02:21):
And I feel like Pandart has oneof the some of the best variants.
So for us to get a seasonof Pandart and not get a single
good one, I mean, Imean, I'm not saying a single good
one, you know, I don'twant to say it's like totally trash what
we were wanting. Well no,no, no, this weird. Well

(01:02:45):
no, that's that's Victor Farrow.I'm talking Pandart. Yeah, yeah,
I think it was last uh,the one with Hope Summers. So I
mean, yeah, she really changedher arts he she it changed there it's
arts style very differently. It wentfor like anime ish or no, it
went from like cool looking three dish kind of realistic into like anime electricity,

(01:03:10):
dragon ball z kind of style.So you know, I'm hoping to
use one key because I don't wantanything else. Yeah, because you know,
pan Art are the best, exceptwhen they're not exactly I mean our
art germ are probably the best andpan Art second best. All right,

(01:03:38):
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you know I want to throw allright, go ahead to go it started
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(01:05:13):
comments as well, So like,you know, how many keys do you
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need to know. Yeah, letus know how many keys, or let
us know how many keys it didtake you, you know, because that's
always nice to know too