The Pixar S-Tier List

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Speaker 2 (01:17):
Hey? Everyone, what's going on?

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Man?

Speaker 1 (01:21):
So Ryan, I gotta ask you your opinion on this.
So I was running CC's vaccination schedule through chat GPT,
and I gotta say it, it varied greatly. Kind of
got to a crossroads with what your pediatrician has been
telling me and what chat GPT is saying. And I
know you're not a father, so your opinion as usual
as irrelevant, But what would you do in this situation?

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Here's what I wouldn't do.

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I wouldn't put my child's vaccination or any medical advice,
records or training or anything through chat GPT.

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I just don't think that's a good move.

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You know what. In fact, Shannon pulled me aside recently
when we're at your house and she was sharing what
I think us and a lot of our friends have
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Hello, Welcome. I'm back to Cuss Basement, and we'll have
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I am here to introduce my new permanent co host,
Craig oh Coin.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
What'sed up?

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Everyone just came off my big bump of buckbone ready
to go.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
That's right, Craig. That's why I'm doing the applause sound
effect that's why we need your positive. Your positivity not
always dragging me down, second guessing me, just shitting all
over me like the prior co host did.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
So a lot of negative negativity.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
There a lot of negativity. Although I will say, Craig
kind of pissed off by your last name because you
know you and Andy Juno. It's like it's O coin,
so everyone listening thinks, oh, it's o apostrophe. See, no,
it's a U C is the beginning of your last name.
That's kind of bullshit. And Andy Juno to any Juno's

(03:50):
last name is g U I g n O Like
what like, who who do you guys think you are?

Speaker 4 (03:55):
I'm sorry it's the French spelling, but it got americanized.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Wait, oh, hold on, we have a caller calling in Coller.
You're on the air.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Hey, this is Ryan. How are you? Oh?

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Hey, how's it going good?

Speaker 3 (04:15):
I just saw you guys were green on teams and
I just thought I'd just shoot a message over see
what's up.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Well, we might as well make the best of it
because we might have some disagreements on this topic, Ryan,
and we need a tiebreaker. We're here to do the
Disney Princess S tier list and the st the S
stands for Sexiest. No, we were actually joking. We were

(04:40):
joking about that, and like about if we actually did
a podcast. I'm like, who's the hot hottest Disney princess?
But and like, I understand that the idea of that
is weird, But all the Disney princesses are hot. And
I know you can think that's weird or gross, but
they're drawn hot, They're obviously drawn pretty. It's very intentional.
Everyone knows that. Like, name one Disney princess that's not beautiful?

(05:01):
Can you name one?

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Great point?

Speaker 5 (05:09):
I don't go now now it's tode of my head.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Right done, argument one victory tim once again. But no,
we are actually doing a different S tierless. We are
doing the Pixar S tier list. Ryan is not a father,
as I already reiterated in this podcast that we know of,
Craig is very much a father. Craig, you have six kids?

Speaker 4 (05:36):
Yeah, I actually have to lucky number seven now nice. Yeah,
it's a good.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
Taps right off. I cover that in my finance podcast.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
A lot of love making Craig's house, shout out Echa.
But no, Craig is very well versed because we have
a group chat. Andy Juno met Craig. Ryan Craig is
very well versed in all things like children's movies or
tillelevision shows, and it is because of his children, unlike Ryan,
who's just a weirdo. But I thought it would be

(06:07):
a great topic because I have been watching all of
the Pixar movies that I've never seen. I think that
it's fair to say that, like we started out seeing
all of them, because the Pixar movies for the most part,
are very very very very good. Even to this day,
there's very few terrible Pixar movies. So I would go

(06:27):
out of my way to see Pixar movies. In fact,
Ryan and I and I discussed that we think Toy
Story is the greatest quadrilogy and maybe even trilogy of
all time if you're looking at the consistency of each film,
because like, name another trilogy where each film is that good,
very very difficult to do.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
Yeah, I think you mentioned this way back in your
Toy Story Pod Diehard's up there.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
That's a good trilogy. But I agree Toy Story is
pretty pretty fantastic.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
But then there was there's there's more than three toy
story and there's more than three diehards, and the other
diehards are terrible. But yes, I agree two is maybe
like the weak one, but I still enjoy Diehard too,
die Harder. So I thought that we'd be we're all
kind of experts in this field. And since Cec was born,
I've seen every Pixar movie that I had never seen prior,

(07:23):
except for eli Oh. I said to Craig, like, I've
never seen I called the Ilio, but it's actually called Eloh.
And Craig said, well, you're in luck because it comes
out this Wednesday on Disney Plus. So I actually managed
to watch it before recording this pod. So I've seen
all twenty nine pitch Tar movies, as has Craig. Not
Ryan though pregrass guys, Ryan, you've seen twenty of them,

(07:49):
you said.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
I've seen twenty.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
From going through this list, I was like, wow, I
have not spent All of them are literally the past
five six years.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, Run, How would you describe Pixar's quality and history
overall as a company.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
For a long time, they probably were the best run
of movies from a single company probably ever, because usually
you see like runs of movies from like creative teams, actors, directors, whatnot.
But like in terms of like a sheer, like this
is one production company who makes their own movies. I

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can't like think of one that was their own thing.
I mean, obviously they were owned by Disney, but like that,
from like ninety four to like two thoy ten or eleven,
it just got so good you were like you just
no matter what they were putting out, you were going
to see it.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
It didn't matter.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, And how so Toy Story was there for the
first ever Pixar movie. They were already owned by Disney.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
At that point, they had Disney. I don't think they
were owned by Disney. I think it was more like
Disney used the tech technology of Pixar to make Toy
Story because a lot of the people who worked on
Toy Story had worked as Disney animators and worked on
other Disney productions and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
And then they were Pixar was going to go independent
after Ratitituoy or was it before Ratiitue.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Before ratitu rat two.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
He was the movie they were producing to be their
first solo movie.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Without because Disney decided they didn't need them anymore, didn't
want them anymore.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
I think their contract was up, but I think Pixar
was like, we're good, like we can go on our
own and be okay, and I think Disney was like,
we need you, so come back.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
It's like I got the pression that was the logic.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, And what year was ratiituey?

Speaker 2 (09:43):
That was two thousand and seven seven?

Speaker 5 (09:45):
What were you going to say, Craig, Yeah, I was
just gonna say I was looking it up.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
It looks like Disney bought Pixar officially in six for
a wow point four billion, so that kind of tracks right.
Pixar was probably ready to be like I don't need you,
which I think is true, and then he said, no,
here's a truckload of cash.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
And if we well, sorry, go ahead, Ryan.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Let me say if quick, I think a quick comparison
as I think they bought Star Wars for four point
eight four point nine billion and then also bought Marvel
the entire company for a similar amount. That just kind
of shows you're right there, how insane Pixar was.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
Yeah, both at four million. Yeah, I think now.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
I think nowadays things have shifted in the past almost
which is crazy to say, almost twenty years since rattitude
he came out. But now nowadays Disney's having more success
without Pixar. They have Incanto of which was massive, Frozens massive,
Molwana was massive, and if you look at Elio, didn't

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make a lot of money, didn't even get that good reviews.
Same with Elemental Onward, which we'll talk about all these movies.
Onward got screwed because it was during COVID. But there's
and then a lot of times where the Pixar movies,
the Last Dinosaur or what was it called Good Dinosaur
that didn't make a lot of money and didn't get
that good of reviews, and then whenever that seems to happen,

(11:13):
Pixar is like, all right, let's make another Toy Story,
or let's make a sequel to Finding Nemo, or let's
make a sequel to Cars. So it's sort of like
one for you, one for me kind of thing, it seems.
But I'm a little worried about Pixar's status of late
because Lao just came out and was not a hit,
which they've had a couple now that have not been hits.

(11:34):
But Toy Story five is coming out next year, correct.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Yeah, twenty six four of the next five Pixar movies
are either sequels or related to a release that has
already come out.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Well, that makes sense. What are the next five?

Speaker 4 (11:52):
Well, at least I'm assuming on this right, I think
Hopper's right. Isn't that the Bug Life spin off I
think is coming up next? You got Toy Story five
movie called Gato, which I assume is independent of the
other ones.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
But then you got Incredibles three and Coco two.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Coco two, so they're making a spinoff of the Kevin
Spacey character Hopper from Bugs Life, which is.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
Oh no, it isn't.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
I'm sorry, I'm gonna get I'm gonna get lots of
calls on this, but no, I'm just looking at Hoppers now.
It's apparently about a beaver, and I got it completely wrong.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
God, sorry, I was gonna say, I doubt that because
people don't even like Bugs Life, which we may or
may not agree with. We'll get to it, and sure,
for those that don't know what an S tier list is,
it's really a thing from video games. We're in video
games when you get grades A through F. If you're
better than an A, you get an S, which stands

(12:49):
for essentially special or super It's like you are above
and beyond even an A. This is the best possible scenario.
So I wanted to clarify what do these letters mean
in this list, so we're all on the same page
because we could each have our own distinct definitions of them.

(13:09):
And what I had texted you is, this is how
I define it, and I'm the boss, as Brian knows,
so we have to do it like this. S means
as Ryan used to know. So four S means extremely special.

(13:29):
This movie moved you as a movie you will remember
for the rest of your life. I personally think of
these twenty nine. I didn't actually sit down and do
the math of like what would be what I think
we should only have like four or five. You can't
because the problem with S to your list is if
somebody has ten S movies like no, You're You're, You're missing.

(13:50):
The point of this S is for one of the
greatest movies of all time. A means this is very very,
very very good. This is an excellent movie. This is
one of their best movies. B means this is good.
C means this is fine. I enjoyed it, It's just
not really that special. D means I kind of didn't

(14:13):
enjoy this. This is one of their weaker movies, and
f means this movie sucks. This should not have been made.
This is a blemish to the brand of Pixar. So
does that make sense to everyone?

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yep, okay, And I think we should get right into it.
I actually have You can Google create a Pixar s
tir list including L E. L, and it gives you
them in chronological order. So I have it right here.
I'm going to be compiling this if my computer allows
me to close the ad for Monday Night Football, which

(14:50):
it apparently isn't. So give me one second here as
I refresh this website. All right, I fixed it. So
and Ryan or Craig, I'm gonna I don't have the
years in front of me. So if one of you
could do me favors and tell me the years of

(15:11):
these movies as we mentioned them.

Speaker 5 (15:13):
I got them up.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yep okay. So the first movie is a little known
film called Story of Toys. It came out in what year?

Speaker 5 (15:23):
Came out ninety five.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Nineteen ninety five. So Toy Story starring Tom Hanks and
Tim Allen. Before we decide what this is going to be,
I want to caveat this. I don't think that this
should be an S tier. I'm concerned you both have
an stier because it started Pixar as a brand. It's
the first toy story, it started toy story. This isn't

(15:47):
the best toy story movie. It's poorly animated, so it's
amazing for the time. It's an extremely important movie. I
do not think that this is an S tier movie. Craig,
what do you have as letter grade?

Speaker 4 (16:01):
So I don't have it as an S. I do
have it as an A, but like a low A,
and it for that reason of it. This was so
new and unique at the time to launch it that
I think that that deserves some credit for that. But
I if someone were to say, I would say, this
is closer to a B than an S.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
But I have it as an A.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
And Ryan I have it in A as well.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
We are unanimous, my friends. I'm sorry. I apologize for
being concerned. I have this as an A. So toy
story one it's it might. I mean, if somebody told
me they thought it was the worst toy story, I
wouldn't think that was crazy. But it is a great movie.
It's very important. I'm going to give it an a
We're all in agreement.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
The next movie is A Bugs Life, which came out
in what year?

Speaker 5 (16:55):
Nineteen ninety eight.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Nineteen ninety eight, Sorry, Dennis Lear, Kevin Spacey, Dave Foley, Julia,
Louis Dreyfuss. Yeah, and I'm just going off with them here, huh.
Richard Kind, Richard Kind, nobody listening who that is? But okay, yes,
this I think is polarizing. I think this is not

(17:23):
if you read like the historical views of Pixar movies
and what critics think today. This movie is not very beloved.
It was never made into a sequel. Nobody really talks
about it at all. Now it's kind of frowned upon.
And Ryan and I have personally talked about how we
don't get that. We actually really like A Bug's.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
Life came out today be a massive head.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, I agree. It's it's based on the Seventh Samurai
or the Magnificent Seven for Western fans, like loosely based
on that. Craig, what are your thoughts on A Bug's Life?

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (17:59):
I like this one. I have it.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
I have it as a b I thought this was
a really good movie, and I note one thing that
I recall from this is how the animation really is
much better, even though it picks our second movie. So like,
from Toy Story to Bugs Life. I know it's three years,
but like, the animation just was so much better. It's
so much closer to what they have now. And again,

(18:24):
I really enjoyed the story. I know it it gets
a knock as not being maybe a.

Speaker 5 (18:28):
Top one, but.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, I think that Toys Story. I said, Toy Story
is poorly animated. I don't want to like criticize them
or the animators like they did a bad job or
they half asked it. I just mean that technology. The
technology was not there, and it's really noticeable with humans
when they animate humans, you know Sid or Sid's sister,
they just look awful. And if you look at the

(18:52):
early Pixar shorts which are available on Disney Plus, we
can also do a short Pixar shorts estelist. Lava would
be s There's one about a baby playing with a toy.
I can't remember what it's called, but the baby looks
terrifying because they just couldn't animate people appropriately.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yeah, it's I think it's the reason why Buck's Life
looks so much better. Is because they just don't touch humans. Yeah,
they make cartoon iice bugs, and they really go minimal.
So it's smart to be like, let's try this instead,
because humans just such a They're just such a high
shot to make.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
But yeah, I agree. So, Ryan, what would you have?
Craig said, be what would you have?

Speaker 2 (19:37):
I also have in my beats here as well.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
I also have it on beats here. This is gonna
be so funny. This is we're supposed to. I'm gonna pause.
The producer just texted me more conflict, more heat. We
need to get ratings, guys, we need ratings.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Oh so that makes a lot of sense. Why I
don't have a job anymore.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Oh so, really we know what happened.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
I got one coming up I think will cause a
little bit of controversy.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
I'm intrigued it all right. The second Story of Toys
came out in what year?

Speaker 5 (20:12):
Nine?

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Nine?

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Ninety nine year?

Speaker 2 (20:15):
The laughter?

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Is this the last movie of the nineties?

Speaker 5 (20:19):
This is the last movie of the nineties.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yep, all right, Toy Story two. I'm gonna ask Brian
where does this rank? Well, I don't want to spoil anything,
I guess Ryan, what is your letter grade? And what
are your thoughts on Toy Story two.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
I have it in my A tier toy story too.
I think it's an excellent movie. Animation definitely improved on
this one.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
They went for slightly less humans, which I think was
a smart move.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
I think also that no, with Al, they only only
have Al and the old man who was already in
bugs life.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah that's true, they only really have that. Yeah, that's fair. Okay.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Also, I think that Jesse montage is like, what what
is Pixar for the future?

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Like that's what they do with every movie?

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Now?

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Is that whole thing? Like it starts that whole thing.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Uh. The Jesse well, just to acknowledge this and to
a story too, there is a montage of how Jesse
was left behind by her human to Sarah McLaughlin when
somebody loved me? Is that what it's called? Yes, And
it is the saddest scene in the history of films.
If you watch it and you don't want to, like

(21:38):
think about killing yourself, then you don't have a soul.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
It's also fascinating.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Craig actually was I were talking about this fairly recently
about how like this was supposed to be a direct
to video sequel that was going to be two D animated,
and then they made it and then like Craig was
telling me the story, like they almost lost to the
entire movie and someone had saved it on the heart.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
It's crazy. Yea.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
There was a big, big exec Pixark who was on
maternity leaves and she had backups of the movie that
they were working on because she was not in the
office re COVID, and somehow they lost all of the
video footage of Toy Story too, like somebody absidentally deleted
out of server or something, and she had a copy

(22:26):
so they could refresh and reboot right from where they
left off.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Wow, that's terrifying. That's that's like also just certain things
that are completely lost to history. It's so funny to
think of in the digital age, like back when things
were on physical film and oh we lost the film.
It's gone. No one will ever see this movie again.
It's just bizarre, it is.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
And it's also and it's so fascinating how like you
still hear about like if they were storing a movie.
Actually one we covered a while back, and they made
a movie called Plague Dogs.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
They had like a vah.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Always back to plague dogs.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Right, gotta bring it back. I gotta try.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Sorry to the producers, but they were like they wanted
to make it. So this company was putting out on
the on Blu Ray was like, hey, we're putting it out,
we got some a version of it whatever.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
When they get announced.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
They were playing it out, the director of the movie
was like, I personally own a better version of the
movie than you own than you have.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
I have the copy of this movie like on film.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
And it's like had they they weren't even gonna acknowledge
that this guy was part of this Blu Ray all this,
We're just gonna put it out because we're just gonna
put it out. And he was like, I have a
better version, and they made it and they were like, yeah,
this is a thousand times better off from a personal collection.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
It's just so interesting.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
I would say, I'll let Craig break the tie here.
I had this as b I think the Jesse scene
is s tier on its own. But I if you
were to ask me, hey, Tim, you can watch any
Toy Story movie right now, what would you pick? This
would probably be my last choice. Probably, So because of that,
I'm gonna say this is a Bee. I just don't like, Like,

(24:12):
there's certain thing you know, you know, Like I've always said,
I don't want to see a Wolverine movie where Wolverine
loses his powers, even though Logan was amazing. So Logan
proved me wrong, But like I don't want to see
a Superman movie where Superman loses his powers. There's certain
things I don't like, you know, I don't like this
storytelling choice. It's just not for me. I don't like,
what are you being separate from them the entire time?

(24:33):
I don't like the Prospector. I don't I like Jesse,
like she's fine, she has that great scene. I don't
like al I just was not like I don't. I
don't want to be there, I guess is my explanation.
Where I love being in the daycare, I love being
in the antique shop in Toy Story four, I love
being with bo Peep on the playground, Like I just

(24:55):
I don't want to be there. So, Craig, what is
what is your tiebreaker?

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Thought? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (24:59):
Not surprising, Tim is right here. I have it as
a B category as well. Again, Toy Toy Story is
a fantastic one through four, but I do think this
is the lowest of the toy stories. And yeah, if
it's on TV, I'm like, nah, so it's a it's

(25:20):
a it's good, but it's it's not great in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, And also I don't really like the lore introduced
in this movie that they referenced many other times that
Wood he is actually worth tons of money. I just
I don't know. I didn't like a lot of choices
they made here.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
I thought the whole idea was to kind of like
reverse the Buzz thing on you. Like Buzz was like
the prize toy and you kind of saw where he
came from. They're showing you where what he came from,
and they're showing you like how actually old Wood he
is too.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
And the idea that like what do these toys want?

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Like they've then they go into this course more later,
but like they want to live to be like played
with and be with Andy, but like they all tell him,
like you can live forever if you stay with the
Round Up Gang. I fucking knew that name is Bath's
blowing my mind right now.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
But like.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
It's like Bill Zion Jesse and it just.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Makes sense and how like and how like prospectors like
if you're not here, we're worthless. And it's like that's
how the other toys feel about what he in Andy's life.
It's just like it's just this interesting kind of dichotomy.
I thought that was really good.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
But yeah, it's not a bad movie.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Like Craig said, none of these these are why these
are the best series, just none of them.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Dip that low.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, okay, fair enough. Moving on, we have Monsters Incorporated,
which came out what.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
Year, two thousand and one.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Starring Billy Crystal and John Goodman. This was a tough
one for me. Oh and Steve you Sammy is the
villain who plays the guy who's in charge of the
scare factory, the spider guy who's the voice of him.

Speaker 5 (27:12):
A second and pull it up.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Colburn, Wi Wilmer, Valderrama.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
No, no, so close though, James.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Coleburn, Oh got you? Okay?

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Uh this this? I love this movie. I love this movie. Craig,
what did you give it?

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (27:31):
See, this is where we might have a little controversy.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
Maybe I have this as a c I this is
not one of my favorite Pixar movies.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
I think it's fine.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
I think it's you know, it's it's Okay, I don't
mind watching it because the kids enjoy it a lot
more than I do. But I don't know, maybe because
I've just seen it so many times. I'm just like,
this doesn't hold the same kind of feelings or magic
for me, So I am it us a.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
C for me?

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, I gotta, I gotta disagree with that. I love
Boo the Little Girl. I I think that I don't know.
I think Mike Wazowski Billy Crystal's character is funny. It's
like the only time I've enjoyed Billy Crystal in anything
where I've actually found him funny and for any moment
in time. And I don't know. I like Randall the

(28:27):
CEB semi. It's I kind of like the whole conspiracy
aspect of it, Like this evil corporation is running this
conspiracy to try to stay open and make a bigger
profit because that's what they would do. Uh yeah, I would.
I was thinking I was gonna give this an a Ryan,
What would you give this movie?

Speaker 2 (28:49):
I had this as an a.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Myself, Okay, and any thoughts on it or just.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Said, such a great idea, great story. I always think
it's weird when they make adorable like characters, but like
when Sully goes monster mode, it is like legitimately terrifying.
You're like, holy shit, this thing is absolutely mortifying. Also
a A plus fucking ending and a plus ending when

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they rebuild the door.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yes, so great.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yes, and the Pixar in many movies does horror very well. Uh,
which we can We'll talk about later, but they can
if like they want. There are scenes that it's it's
sort of almost it's either intentionally trying to be scary
or it's it's scary, which is funny because it's so
absurd that, like this actual scary moment is happening in

(29:46):
a Pixar movie. But I sort of looked at CC like,
is she gonna be okay with this? Because when when
when Sully screams and roars to genuinely scarre and Boo
gets scared, that is a scary moments. Greatness, he is
good in it. So Craig, you said, c right.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
I did. I did.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
I'm gonna I'm gonna hold hold for my mind because
I'm not gonna be crush it in the change of
my thing. But you know, I mean, I think this
is good, Like I don't think it's bad.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
I just in the realm of Pixar. I have it
as one of my lower movies.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
I'm gonna I'm gonna put this as a B because
I don't feel even though Ryan and I had it
as an A, I don't feel it's fair if Craig
has a two grades below to put it as an A.
So we're gonna put it as as B. And the
next one is just an iconic title, but we might
have different opinions on this as well. It is Finding Nemo,

(30:42):
which came out in two thousand and three, and one
of you told me recently that William H. Macy film
the entire movie as Nemo's father, and the audience hated him,
so they recast them and did the whole voice again
with with what's his name?

Speaker 2 (31:01):
With Mark my God, Brooks, Brooks.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Albert Brooks, Hank Scorpio from The Simpsons. That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Yeah, I guess I was listening to a podcast about
Fargo because he's in that and he kind of plays
like a Weasley, kind of like piece of shit guy,
and they the person was saying, have you ever heard
this about? Like they did the whole like run through
and they tested in the audience is like, we hate Marlin,
and like you can't hate Marlin.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
But yeah, this movie, uh most picks our movies, maybe
not all to my knowledge, but there's a reoccurring trend
much like Disney movies, original Disney movies, horrible tragedies, dead parents,
missing parents, with no explanation. And this movie has a brutal,

(31:54):
b brutal opening scene where it's this loving couple of
clown fish and the wife is murdered by a barracuda.
And I didn't remember this movie and I watched it
a couple of months ago and I was like, holy
shit after that happened.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yeah, very much classic Disney storyline here.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Yes, Ellen is in it. Uh, Dennis Leary again, Wi Dafoe.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah, Willem Dafoe, Jeffrey.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Rush, Jeffrey Epstein, Harvey Weinstein is a voice as well.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
They also made they also made seagulls absolutely terrifying in
this movie.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Oh yeah they did.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
What do they say? They go, mine, mine, mine, fever?

Speaker 2 (32:48):
You do just bounce straight into my mouth. It's just
like it's that how that's how awful they are to
deal with?

Speaker 5 (32:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah, oh yeah, So I this franchise. These two movies.
Not a massive fan Ah, this is so hard to
give a letter grade for me. I want to say, see,
I feel like I'm Craig with Monster z Inc. I

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think this movie's fine. I like it. It's a good
story and journey, but I don't kind of get why
this is one of the biggest Pixar movies ever and
they made a sequel and everybody loves it. I think
this movie's fine. I'm giving it a C. And I
think Dorry is fucking annoying.

Speaker 5 (33:43):
Yeah, I would. I would agree with you.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Dory is annoying in some sense, but I do. I
do like this movie.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
I don't know. Maybe if it's because of the fact
that it's.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
Like, you know, I'm a dad and I am too,
but this came out well before I was a dad,
so maybe I'm going recency bias here.

Speaker 5 (34:01):
But I have this as it again, it's.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
An A for me.

Speaker 5 (34:07):
It's a low A.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
It's like lower on my my A tier movies. But
I do have it there just because I can. If
I see this movie on TV, or if the kids
see this movie on TV, they'll put it on and
I don't. It's like I'm happy to watch it, So
that was kind of my rationale there.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
I was like, well, I don't want to turn this
off if I see it on TV, so it's gonna
be an a movie for me.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Okay, all right, I think most people would agree with you, Ryan,
what do you think?

Speaker 2 (34:34):
I have it as a B.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
I think it's an extraordinarily well made movie, but I
just have never been as emotionally connected to it as
other people were.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
I feel the same way. So great as it a
Ryan B mec I'm putting it as a B. Makes sense.
This is their first attempt next at the superhero genre.
It is The Incredibles.

Speaker 5 (34:59):
Which came in two thousand and four, oh four.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
This is when I was a senior in high school. Wow,
that's W're old and really enjoyed this movie. Loved it
at the time, rewatched it, really enjoyed it. It felt
kind of I don't like when animation feels empty. It
makes it seem almost like cheap. And to go into

(35:26):
another genre, which I said we should do, which is
non Pixar Disney CGI movies. Frozen is a great movie,
but just the background of Frozen is very blah and empty.
There's very few people in Frozen and the background is
just like all white and blue with brown trees. Then
you look at a movie like in Kanto, which is
the background is so detailed and vibrant, all the walls

(35:49):
in every scene, it's like visually stunning. So the incredible
seems very empty to me, which I didn't love. But
the movie, I don't know. The movie itself is great.
Craig Tea Nielson who is the wife as a.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
Holly Hunter Holly Hunter, you get it?

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yeh, yep, Craig, what would you say about us?

Speaker 5 (36:10):
I do really enjoy this movie.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
This is high, random fact, tied for the most times
I've seen a movie in a movie theater with five.
I've seen this movie five times in the movie theater
couple with Ryan.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
But you never really watched it because YouTube and stop
making out.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
Well that's true, that's why we had to keep going back. Yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Mean, I really like Brad Bird and a lot of
the stuff that he does, So I have this probably
higher than most the average person. I have this as
an a tier, and I mean for me, it's it's
arguably almost on my Mount Rushmore, which again that's probably

(36:59):
too high.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
If you're gett asked the general public. But for me,
I think it's just really solid. I really enjoyed it.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
I will watch it every time I see it on
TV or if I if the kids want to watch it.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
I'm like, yep, here we go.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Ryan, I want your opinion, but first I have to say,
mister Incredible's original suit, the black and blue, is way
better than the new way better.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
All their old suits are better.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, their old suits are sick elasta girls. Yeah, yep.
I well, Ryan, your opinion.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
I have this iss s wow wow.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
First of the night.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
I think so many of the movies in the same
genre can barely touch what this movie does.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
They do the family elements so well.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
I love everything about this looks amazing, score is fucking incredible.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
It's famous.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
I mean this is the most cliche line about it,
but it outdid Fantastic four before they made a Fantastic
for a movie.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Yes, Like, it's just and it's just the whole like
sixties retro vibe of it.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
I love it just has a great and I just
think the story of what it's doing is just so.
It's like a first movie and a sequel at the
same time. I don't know how to describe it like
also just bomb Voyage as a villain. He's just always
stuck in my head. I just think it's just so funny.
I just think there's an extraordinary movie.

Speaker 6 (38:32):
I was just so similar to Unbreakable.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
I was just like, if it ever make a sequel
to this, like, it has to be fucking amazing. I
don't know, something amazing, I guess, but as this is
my first as.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Here, I think this has to be an A because
for me, I was maybe I'm trying to be pessimistic
and I was maybe leaning B. But then as Ryan
was talking, there's so many things I remembered, just the
whole story of you have to give up your dream,
and this is one of the reasons I bumped it
up to an A.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Mister Incredible in the movie is a claims adjuster, which
is which is what Ryan and I used to be.
We both used to be claims adjusters. And it's miserable
and whenever we help, yeah, no help. He whenever he
has a scene with his boss, his boss is yelling
at him, and mister credible Incredible is enormous. He is

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ten times bigger than his boss and he just just
sit there and he's so sad. But then when he
starts to become a superhero again, he's fat and he
doesn't fit into the suit, but he's just so happy
because it's like, this is my passion, this is what
I want to be doing. Sam Jackson is in it.
We've got to mention that.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Which is Greaton's amazing. Love his suit.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
I think the thing that I was impressed by two
is this movie is being an zero four post Columbine
and especially post nine to eleven. There was really a
very big like, do not put violent in movies that
are geared towards kids. Do not put like specifically gun violence.
I'm kind of for when you watch this movie, like

(40:07):
especially now, like the villains legit shoot at the kids,
and then like when they're hiding in the cave, Helen
warns them, these people will kill you like they're not
they don't care if your kids, And it was just
like to see that kind of severity in this kind
of movie was interesting even now.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah, another credit to Pixar movies is they don't really
chicken out about Mortal Danger. All of these movies, for
the most part, involve life and death, and it's very
clear that like you will die if you do this. Yeah,
so this and this is a great superhero movie back
when there were not a lot of great superhero movies.

(40:48):
Twenty one years ago, there were not a lot of
great superhero movies.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
And I think even though it's been twenty one years,
I think a lot of them would bounce right off this.
I think they really would. I think a lot of
them would not have the same pack energy. I mean,
even like the the Dash action scene when he can
run on water is just fucking great. It's just a
great action scene.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
It's yeah, Dash render the Star Wars character.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
No, you don't want you don't want me to start
with this, I don't even Yeah, the es.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Your list of every Jedi up next is Kit Pisto.
He is s obviously moving on.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
Every every Jedi's and s There's just no this. No
one gets below it. The one was really good.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
The one regret I have of this movie is I
really wanted to see Jack Jack's powers, which you don't
really get to see in this movie for the most part, Like,
I want to see Jack Jack use his powers in
a real way and not just fuck with the babysitter.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Well, at the end, he he takes out syndrome kind of.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
I mean you do see it a little, you do
have there's a short out there with Jack Jack, but yeah,
that's there.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Is the movie the Yes, okay, So I think this
should be in a Craig and I said, a Ryan said,
S we have to be very precious. Is what we're
gonna put is S No s as yet and I'm
very proud of us. We've only been through six movies,
though I thought we went through more. Up next is

(42:21):
Kaz starring Owen Wilson, Michael Keaton, Paul Newman.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Unt Bony Hunt who Stuffy Yep.

Speaker 5 (42:34):
This came out in two thousand and six.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Man, Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 5 (42:43):
Larry, Larry the cable guy.

Speaker 7 (42:45):
I don't okay, and this movie I was like what
because at the time I really hated NASCAR and Nascar
culture kind of still do.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
But I feel like NASCAR had a boom at that
time where people were like, oh, Nascar is going to
become a very very mainstream in the next ten years,
and it sure didn't. So, but it was like a
bit bothered me more then, so I was like, what
is Pixar doing. I don't want to see this at all,
but I went and saw it because it was Pixar,

(43:19):
and I absolutely loved it at the time, was really
impressed by I mean, and Paul Newman is so good
in this, He's great. Yes, so Michael Keaton's great, And
then forgot, Yeah, Ryan, what letter grade would you give this?

Speaker 3 (43:37):
I have this as a C, not in like a
it Actually, when you think about the scale of those movies,
it's kind of a good one because the whole movie
is about like what slowing down and like taking things
in where like Pixar like is ramping up.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
So I think it's interesting like this movie would come out.
Don't get me wrong, I'm.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Sure there was like the idea of, hey, we can
sell fifty five different versions of cars, so like let's
put this out. But like, I just really like the
town they're in, with what they're doing. It's it's a
really cool pace. I just to me compared to other
ones to.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
See, okay Craig and yeah, cars.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
So stupid, so stupid.

Speaker 5 (44:27):
Yeah, I mean it.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
You know, we haven't had many low letter grades, so
see almost feels like we're knocking on it here.

Speaker 5 (44:34):
But no, see, it's a good movie, right, Yeah. I
enjoyed it.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
You know, it wasn't at the same level for me
as some of the other ones. So just like growing
and said all the things. Yeah, a good story.

Speaker 5 (44:46):
I enjoyed it.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
But you know, this is not one of those ones
where if you say, when I think picks are which
movies am I gonna go look for?

Speaker 5 (44:56):
This is not one of them.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
For me.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
I'm gonna because that I liked it so much more
than I thought I would. I'm giving this a B.
But for our list, I'm gonna put it at C
because you both think it's a C. Also, is Andy
Juno into Nascar? Please tell me he's not.

Speaker 5 (45:10):
Yes, he's he is.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
He might be in it a little bit, just for
like some of the some of the pools and the
fantasy stuff, but I don't think otherwise he's into it.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Andy Juno is into every sport that no one watches
because he's he wants people to be like, oh, you're
so unique and different. Oh wows.

Speaker 5 (45:30):
Yes, stout out Wimbledon Soccer Club for Andy.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
You know.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Also, I miss I missed the call, but I heard
from the Reddit and the Twitter post that you were
starting off complaining about everybody's spelling of their name. Like,
that's a great new that's a great They have a
lot of control over that.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
Yeah, it's just stupid, you know, go ahead, sorry, my quick,
my quick, other cars not what.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
I probably have this wrong. The listeners will correct me.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
But I think this is the first time that they
picture trying to bring him like mainstream music.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Hmmm.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
Like right, Life is a Highway. They had a show
Crow song in that right and then and you can
see get into the later movies it's really starting. They're
going away from original music and now they really made
it heavily on kind of mainstream music.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
It's a great call up because it's all Newman pretty
much until.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Randy Newman.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Yeah, uh, I fucking hate Randy Newman. And like that's
the bate of my existence watching these great movies, is
I always think of Family Guy. You know, for all
the criticism Family Guy takes, Family Guy is genius every
now and again. And when they and I know, it's
like random and manatees pushballs to come up with jokes.

(46:44):
As self Park indicated. There's a joke about, oh, it's
like Randy Newman writing a song and it's just him.
He's just describing somebody walking and he's live foot right,
live foot right, but so he shut up, Randy Newman.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
Take a lot look it.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Yes, yes, exactly, but I agree that Cars is the
most vibe so far by far, so far that we're
completely selling out in every way. But then it was
followed by like the least to sell out movie ever,
so they made up for it, which is Ratituy and
that came out in two thousand and seven, right, correct, okay, ratituey. Ryan,

(47:29):
do you have this st here?

Speaker 2 (47:31):
I absolutely do, of course I do.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
I thought you would, so go you go, you go
ahead and start Ryan.

Speaker 5 (47:38):
What is this?

Speaker 3 (47:39):
It's like it's to me, it's like there first like
flex of like this is there's no love interest, there's
no like they have action scenes in it, I guess,
but there's the plot of this movie is like the
stress of opening a restaurant up the potential you know,

(48:02):
will issue, but the idea that like Remy is just
in love with food and the animation of this movie
and like how they do this makes it you see
and capture that feeling through rats in Paris. It's just
it's such a bizarre what do they call it? Hat

(48:22):
on a hat thing? But it's just so well done.
It's just so incredibly I.

Speaker 6 (48:28):
Don't know, it looks extraordinary.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
The famous line is Paris looks better and reddit too
than it doesn't anything else. But like, it's just I
think it's just so unique. It's such an excellent movie.
I think it's truly bizarre that Disney World has ratit
to your theme stuff.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Now. I think it's very bizarre to me.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah, this is such a weird pitch of the movie,
and it's it's just excellent. And that's why I said that.
And I had no idea that Ian Holm is the
villain chef.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Yeah, yes, you have Genine Garoffalo, you have Will Arnett, Yes,
so many great cast members. Actually, I think it's Tony
Romano is Linguini. He's an animator at Pixar. This is
also like famously a production where they have two directors.
One was I guess asked to leave and Brad Bird
took over.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
I think they just thought he couldn't handle it.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
I think it just got too big and they thought
like he wasn't producing and Brad Bird had to kind
of come in last minute. I think if you listen
to interviews with Brad Bird about this movie, about his career.
He always says that like he's never been like, hey,
this was mine. He was like I literally was like
asked to like parachute in and do this movie. So
I did it, and like he invented the Gusteau character.

(49:48):
Just a lot of great stuff. Again, an unbelievable score.
Anton Ego fucking amazing villain for as little that they
give him in that movie. That shot of him eating
the rabbits when he just like time travels back to
his childhood, it's just absolutely incredible.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good that's a good point, Craig,
what would you give it?

Speaker 4 (50:14):
Yeah, this is another one. I talked about Incredibles being
really high up there. This is another really high up
there one.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
For me.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
I have it as an a because I'm maybe kind
of like a low S tier kind of guy. But
I don't get mad if people say this is an
S movie, I could see that.

Speaker 5 (50:32):
Love it.

Speaker 4 (50:32):
It's definitely fantastic. You know, Ryan's nails all the points.
I guess I'll throw like just a random trivia factor
in there. For me, My my favorite part is Antony Ego,
if you watch the whole movie, is rail thin, super skinny,
and then at the end of the movie because.

Speaker 5 (50:50):
He keeps going yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
And then as he continues to eat at the new restaurant,
right because he's eating all the food, he actually builds
up and his frame is bigger because he actually enjoys food. Again,
that's my one little like gratitude.

Speaker 5 (51:10):
Uh trivia noe. But yeah, I have this as an A,
so it's really high up there.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
I love when he takes a bite of the food
and he is transported into his childhood. I I this
is almost an S tier for me. The reason I
put it at A is because, like, I don't really
enjoy the hell out of it, Like could watch it

(51:34):
on repeat, would want to watch it right now. So
I think it's just such a good movie. But I'm
being super precious. It seems so far, but I think
that's about to change with S tier. I'm I reluctantly
am gonna say A. But it doesn't matter because Craig's
aid A, and I don't think that anything should be

(51:55):
stier unless we have a unanimously S tier. So we're
gonna put radit tattooy that A. We have no S tiers.
Up next, we have wall E. This came out in
what year two eight, two thousand and eight. This is
my first S Tier movie. I think this is unquestionably

(52:18):
an s here Ryan.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
S Tier, Craig, we are three for three on the
S Tiers today.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Fellas Walls, Let's do It.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Wally is an S Tier film that is the first
Pixar Stier film on our list. This movie is just
I mean, the characters don't talk, and this movie has
more heart and soul than like ninety nine point nine
movies I've ever seen. It's about two robots that don't talk,

(52:52):
a cockroach, a bunch of fat people in space.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
For dark like.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
It's this movie is incredible. I mean I don't even like,
what do you have to say?

Speaker 4 (53:06):
Yeah, I mean to tell such a story with so
little dialogue.

Speaker 5 (53:13):
You know, I often joke with my wife.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
We have a big framed picture of Wally and Eva
where Wally's.

Speaker 5 (53:21):
Trying to hold her hand while she's in you know,
the that mode where she shut down.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry to interrupt you. I'm sorry to
interrupt you. You even saying that like made me overwhelmed
with emotion because I visualized that moment in the movie.

Speaker 5 (53:38):
Yeah, I mean, this is this is like I say,
this is us.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
I was like, I'm that you know, run down, beat
down robot that's you know, maybe not as as flashy
or as new, and I am just a hopeless romantic
trying to you know, get the nice beautiful robot, which
I categorize as my wife, and so like this to me,
it's it's it relates. I feel like it relates so much.

(54:01):
But just the fact that it can stay so much
of a story without all that dialogue.

Speaker 5 (54:08):
Absolutely es tier, absolutely mount retchmore for me.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Evah, I like, this is a robot that barely emotes.
He does emote by shifting his eyes. He doesn't really
have a face. And I watched this movie recently and
I was like, I think Wally might be my favorite
Pixtar character, well, the picture character I like the most
as a guy that like I would want in my

(54:34):
life because he's just such He's just so good. I
just love Wally. And yeah, Ryan your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
I mean, we can, we could probably we probably should
just do an entire podcast in this movie because it's
just so much unpacking it. But I will just say
how how bad down people were for this this movie.
When I saw this movie in theaters. It was like
a ten PM show all adults. When they change, like

(55:09):
when they reset Wally and he's like his regular like
builder rup robot program and he runs over the cockroach.
Our entire audience gasped, yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Honestly, like, don't even mention that, don't like no, just no,
when Wally gets his memory raised, No.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
No, it's just no.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
It was I'm like, you got us, you got us.
It's so it's so good, it's so great. It still
looks great now. And then again this is like them
just like now we're just gonna flex and do like
like again like ratituy. I think this whole run is
just like all right, now we're going to do a
movie that has no dialogue, and they decided to make

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it look like a movie, so like Wally is now
all photographic because animation is just you know, drawn and constructed,
where like they brought in a real movie cinematographer to
work with them to see how cameras would react and
behave like it was actually shooting Wally like a movie.
Just such a and also Sigourney Weaver being the voice

(56:11):
of the ship, what a great call back that is.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
It's just so it's so crazy. We could do it.
We could do a whole thing about this movie. We
really could.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Yeah, Craig, I wanted to ask you because you ranked
every Pixar movie ever one through twenty nine. Is Wally one?
For you?

Speaker 5 (56:28):
Wally is not one?

Speaker 1 (56:30):
It's okay, don't tell me, don't tell us. Okay, I
told you, but well, no, don't tell us. What what
is one or two?

Speaker 4 (56:37):
But it's okay, yeah, yeah, okay, Okay, it's not And
I mean for me, it's it's one, two, three, and
then it's I don't want to say a cliff, but
I mean there's one, two, three is gold, silver, and bronze,
and they're very tight. And then and it's not disputable
that those my top three.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Okay, that's very fair. Moving on, we really should do
We'll do that one day an entire Wally pod uh
oh up? Next? All right, this is gonna be this,
don't Yeah, I'm looking at this list and okay, I
want to I want to kick off the next couple,
the next three. I want to give my letter grade
first for the next three films. So the next movie

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is up? And what year did this come out?

Speaker 5 (57:20):
Two thousand and nine?

Speaker 1 (57:22):
Okay, I have Up as s tire back to back
s tears for Me, and I said that the Sarah
McLoughlin when Somebody Loved Me it was the statust scene
of the history of film. I actually forgot that. I
was wrong. It is The opening of UP is the
statust scene in the history of film. Craig, what did
you have for a letter? Read for Up?

Speaker 4 (57:42):
I also have this as an s This is my
It's not in my top three since I just referenced that,
but it is. It is definitely up there. It's it's fantastic.
The opening scene is absolutely brutal. But love this movie.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Ryan, do you have this ass? And I'm gonna guess
you're gonna say no and ruin it for all of us.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
I am gonna ruin if everybody have it as a
go to hell Ryan, Yeah, I mean, obviously the opening
is incredible and it's like the most famous thing about it.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Love Carl, love the movie. I think it's great. I
just think.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
The movie as a whole, the other ones I prefer more.
It's still amazing. Of course, Also the end when he
opens the book, Oh my god, soul crushing ending ending.
I'm sorry, but oh.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
Yeah, I mean I part of what made my rankings
was how much did this make movie make you want
to cry? And for me, like multiple scenes in this
movie was like, holy crap, they're really hitting me hard
with these.

Speaker 5 (58:59):
I mean got at least different scenes where I won ballin.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
I think that like just the plot in general, an
old man just tired of society, feel like, ties every
balloon possible to his house and then floats away. Amazing,
and we're leaving out arguably the best part of the movie,
Doug the Dog. Doug the Dog was freaking incredible and hilarious.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
Also at the villain fucking so bizarre, so fucking weird,
just this guy who's just like lost, It's just like
it's so bizarre.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Oh, terrifying, terrifying villain death. It's one of the most
just like really wow, okay deaths for a Pixar villain
in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
Shout out for those listeners that love Doug six sixth
episode mini series Doug Days on Pics Disney Plus. Encourage
encourage everyone to watch it. We've the kids and I
have seen all of those multiple times.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Well, so, Craig, you actually took the words right out
of my mouth. We watch. I watched The Up with CEC,
and CEC was obsessed with Doug specifically and asked to
rewatch the movie. But I but I needed to fast
forward through the parts that didn't have Doug. And if
we were watching a part that didn't have Doug, she

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would go.

Speaker 8 (01:00:18):
Eh ah ah, and I go like, okay, all right,
and we must have seen because unfortunately, I mean, it's
expensive to make and ed Asner Rip died.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
They only made six episodes of this Doug show. I
have seen the Doug Show, which is good. Those six episodes.
I have seen each of them about fifteen times, and
I hate it. And she so like her dog noise,
she said, she actually says up, so she goes up up.
That means that means like bark, bark. So she'll say

(01:00:51):
up up, and that means I want to watch the
Doug Show. And Shannon will say, oh, you want to
watch Doug, and I go, don't even say it. Why
are you saying it? Because then it confirms to her
and she'll freak out if we don't turn it on.
But I am very, very very sick of that show.
At least Blue has one hundred and fifty episodes instead
of six.

Speaker 5 (01:01:09):
You can mix it around. Yeah, yeah, it does. It
doesn't get better.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
They keep they keep one on, watch the same stuff
over and over and over again.

Speaker 5 (01:01:18):
Boom. I can test.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Sounds like, Shannon, let's what do you want to watch?
Like a nineties romcom? We've seen before? No, how about
we watched the one hundred thousand movies that have came
out since then? How about we do that?

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
So we're gonna put up at a because Ryan just
ruins everything. And we are moving on to the Third
Story of Toys, which came out in what year?

Speaker 5 (01:01:46):
Twenty ten?

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Correct? And I'm going to give this an S t here,
So there are three s years in a row for me.
The reason I gave this an S here is because
I think that one of the Toy Story movies should
get an S here. And it's really tough. I was like,
why are they making Toy Story three? This is gonna
be bad. It was fucking amazing. And then when they

(01:02:10):
made Toy Story four, Oh No, Toy Story three was
so good. Why are they making Toy Story four? Maybe
even better? I don't know. So I think three and
four are the best toy stories. I think one of
them should be An s Tier and I chose Toy
Story three. So I'm gonna say s Tier for Toy
Story three.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
Craig, Yeah, I'm gonna say this four movie stretch for attitude.
They tour Story three is like the stretch for Pixar
just to find where they were absolutely on fire.

Speaker 5 (01:02:42):
I'm gonna give it An s Tier as well. This
is this is really high up there for me.

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
The We'll talk Toy Story four in a minute, but
like Toy Story three is just I thought, complete, wonderful.

Speaker 5 (01:02:59):
What I think thought at.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
The time was ending of a trilogy, amazing story, amazing
ending everything.

Speaker 5 (01:03:08):
Probably one of the best.

Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
Villains, if not the best villain of all time in
all the Pixar movies. I don't have really almost anything
negative to say about this movie.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Ryan, the hardest ass I could have ever put in
this list.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Wow, this is the best third movie ever, hands down.

Speaker 5 (01:03:32):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
I can't think of I can't think of a third
trilogy or even series movie that is better than this.
I can't. I think it did the impossible. Like everyone
thought like there's no way this will be good, or
like it will be kind of whatever, and they just
are on It was just such a perfect way to
end this series. Looks incredible, loved Spanish settings, buzz, great

(01:03:59):
villains with so.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Just did such a great job. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Another thing that these movies do, and I don't mean
Toy Story, all the Pixar movies. As an adult, they
genuinely make you laugh and a moment I was like
burst out laughing is I had joked to Craig and
Ryan via text that if we did a Pixar villain
Mount Rushmore, my first pick would be Big Baby, which
is just this massive, terrifying baby doll that is that

(01:04:31):
does not speak and it's used as an enforcer. It's
basically like if Jason Vorhees was in the shape of
a baby and they are trying to escape the daycare
in the middle of the night and they look at
it to see what Big Baby is up to, and
Big Baby is just sitting on a swing which is

(01:04:51):
creaking in the wind, just staring out in the distance
at nothing, and it's terrifying, and it's like, what is.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
The when they when they sneak by him and his
head just completely turns around and think fucking amazing. Also,
the who's the clown toy who tells the story of
lotso he is amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
It's like weepy or something, and he's like, oh, lots
of some bad things happen a lot. So it just
like it's, oh my god, he's so good.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
And the monkey that watches the security cameras is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
Terrified, psychotic, just screams.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
And this this kills off the Andy storyline because it
wouldn't make any sense, but but it realistically believably continues
it with a new person, and I because it's started
to get weird. I'm like, Andy's way too into Woody.
In Toy Story three, he plans on bringing Woody to

(01:05:50):
college and it's like, what are we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Yeah, it interestingly opens with like.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
The toys being the toys have been in the attic
for years, and I love I love what the opening
is supposed to be, like another Toy Story movie, where
like it's playing the Randy Newman song and it just
like it shows them throw Woody in slow motion on
the ground and just the song.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Is just going We'll be from Fool.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
And just goes in slow motion and then it just
cut to Woody in a black bag.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
I just think it's so funny. I think it's so brilliant.
They just did I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
And this is actually, I think a different creative team.
I don't think it was Andrew Stanton and John Lasseter
are doing this one. I think it was different writers too.
They just did this so well. And also Michael Keaton
is fucking amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
It's Ken, Oh, Ken, Ken, because he plays like basically
he's heterosexual and he's Ken, but his tendencies are very gay.
And they tell him you're a girl's toy and he's like,
why do people say that? And he's obsessed with fashion.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
And uh yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
But Ken is great in that. Michael Keaton's the man
just fantastic, really unbelievably good movie, probably the best toy
story movie. But we are moving on to Craig said
that they had a hell of a run, and my friends,
it has come to an end. So the last movie

(01:07:21):
I wanted to start is Cars two. Craig, this came
out in what year?

Speaker 5 (01:07:26):
Twenty eleven?

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
This is an f Cards two is an abomination. I
could barely watch it. It was awful. It was awful.
It was awful. It's about Larry the cable guy. His
character's name is Mayner. It's it's they decide let's focus
entirely on him, and it's like a spy thriller where

(01:07:53):
where it's like a Switcher Rouse storyline where they everybody
thinks he's a spy, but he doesn't realize that they
think he's a spy. It is awful. It's a slog.
So I'm giving this an F for fuck you for
making this movie Pictar. And Ryan, what are you going
to give this?

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
I have not seen this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Don't ever see it. Michael Caine is in it?

Speaker 5 (01:08:23):
Why Michael k Alfred?

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
Yes, he is essentially Alfred as a car.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
Yeah, Craig, what letter would you give this.

Speaker 5 (01:08:36):
To? Kind of go off?

Speaker 4 (01:08:37):
Ryan said, this is the hardest F that I think
I could give a movie. This was just so bad really,
Like I'm sure people at Pixar are like, Man, I
just wish we didn't make this.

Speaker 5 (01:08:48):
I wish this was not in our database. Awful, this horrible.

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
Just screamed cash out. It's just screamed like cash out
to me. Yeah, that wasn't the reason I didn't see it,
but it just screams.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
I mean so many parts of this movie like just
didn't make sense.

Speaker 5 (01:09:07):
There was like no real good storyline. There was just
like I couldn't even really follow it that well, yes, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
And one of the things that I think is so
weird is because it's a spy thriller and Michael Caine
plays a spy car. He's like an Aston Martin or something.
He is constantly getting out of these tricky situations that
don't make any sense for a car to be in.
So the way that they get out of it is
he has this device under his car that shoots ropes,

(01:09:40):
so like metal wires and that grappling hooks. So he's
kind of like Spider manning out of everything throughout the movie,
and I'm like, what are we doing here?

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
Yeah, it's like the James Bond car, but like on steroids,
you can do everything.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Yeah. Just terrible, awful garbage. So really, you know, well,
so how many movies do we have here? We're at ten, eleven, twelve.
We'll do one more movie because there's twenty nine thirteen,
so that would be fifteen fourteen. We'll do two more
movies and then we'll go to part two. Yeah, don't

(01:10:17):
see it. Ryan Up Next is a movie that I
just recently saw for the first time. It is Brave,
which came.

Speaker 5 (01:10:23):
Out in twenty twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
I thought this was very interesting because it's the only
movie about humans so far other than well, I guess up,
now that's not true. I'm totally wrong incredible ratitude and
up or all about humans. But this seemed like the
most realistic kind of movie about humans. It's it's sort
of medieval. It takes place in Scotland and you know,

(01:10:48):
hundreds of years ago, and it's about this girl and
her Scottish clan, and it's about like swords and stuff
like that. It's so I was the vibes of this
going in. I thought, oh, this is gonna be awesome.
I'm really into what they're trying to do here. The
poster is great, it's like her with a bone arrow,
and I thought it was very average. It was kind

(01:11:10):
of math for me. I would probably give it like
maybe a D for disappointing. Yeah, Craig, I have this as.

Speaker 5 (01:11:29):
It's gonna be disappointed for you. Tim a low a
low b. I just really watched this, so duma out there.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
I don't know if I have some recency bias, because again,
I mean I've seen this a while ago, but I
just rewatched it this week, and uh, just just the
ending scene. I don't know why, but it got me.
It got me emotional, and so the ending for me,
for some reason got me, and that's why I was like,
you know, I'm just gonna put this a little higher.
You know, I've got so many of these movies rated

(01:12:03):
high that like, even though it's a beat, it's still
it's still like, it's not in my top ten.

Speaker 5 (01:12:08):
It's it's it's not right, it's it's.

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
In that kind of middle section that says, hey, these
are good, they're worth a watch, but you know, no,
these are not. This is if somebody says, hey, what
Pixar movie should I watch? This isn't one of them,
but I have it a little higher.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
It's Kelly McDonald, Emma Thompson, Robbie Coltrane, Billy Connolly, who's
the witch in this? Julie Walters. Yep, yeah, Ryan, did
you see this?

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
I did on theaters.

Speaker 6 (01:12:38):
I gave this a C tier, not bad at all,
just to never really suck with me.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
Yeah, it didn't stick with me at all. Yeah, we'll
put it. We had B C D, so we're putting
it as a C. Next to see for Cars.

Speaker 5 (01:12:53):
I don't like that we're agreeing with Ryan's take on this,
but that's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
I respect that. Actually, we'll move it to a beef
for brain.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Great logic.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
Monsters University is an M from Monsters University. No what year?

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
Then it might be controversial if you go by the
letter system.

Speaker 4 (01:13:13):
Here twenty thirteen from Monsters University twenty thirteen.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
This is a prequel to Monsters inc. Is this the
only prequel they've done so far?

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
Yeah? I think so right, Yeah, yes, only prequel.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
I thought this was fine. It was very average to me.
I'd give it a C at best, maybe a D.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Ryan I have it as a C as well.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
I like it. It was fine when I saw it.
I had no issues with it, but it just didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
Yeah, Craig, see is for college?

Speaker 5 (01:13:58):
Yeah, we go see us for college. We're gonna go
three for three. Yeah, nothing nothing about.

Speaker 4 (01:14:05):
It screamed, you know, you know, memorable for me on
this one, it was fine.

Speaker 5 (01:14:12):
I watched it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:13):
I've seen it, and the other kids will watch it
if it's on the TV, but you know, I'll be
in and out. I won't be that super interested into it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:20):
It's fine, fine movie.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
I you know, I could argue, I think, you know,
d would be I wouldn't be mad if somebody put
it there.

Speaker 5 (01:14:27):
But it's a see.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
I asked chat JBT like months ago, what are some
college movies? Because I was trying to think of examples
of college movies, and it said, you're a list of
college slash fraternity movies and it was like Animal House,
Van Wilder, Monsters University. I guess it's technically true.

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
Hey, guys to my triple feature R rated comedies ending
with Monsters University.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
So I was fucking dying laughing at what Ryan said
in the text jet So I said, Helen Mirren plays
Dean hard Scrabble, and I came up the fictional conversation
where Craig said he thought Dean Hart Scrabble was the
greatest villain in the history of film, and then Ryan
said his response. His response to that would be, how's

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work going?

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
You need to pull him back out of the water,
gonna pull him up. That's a bad time, A bad
time if I'm saying that, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
How's work going? Like King good? Can't be going good, Peter.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
You're gonna never land too long?

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
Man oh man, all right.

Speaker 5 (01:15:41):
I mean not, you know, is Dean Howe scrabble even
the villain in.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
This yes, definitely. Well, it's like Nathan Johnny Fillian.

Speaker 5 (01:15:49):
Nathan Fillion is Johnny. I feel like it's a villain.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
But you know, she's a bitch, she's trying.

Speaker 5 (01:15:55):
To get kick out of school.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
She's she is kind of terrifying too.

Speaker 5 (01:16:01):
He has a presence demeanor.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
Maybe it's that what what a college movies teach us, Craig,
What does Homer Simpsons say? It's always the crusty old Dean.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (01:16:14):
Hey, Jeff, did you see that? Nerd?

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Excuse me? That's one of my that's cold. O'Brian wrote
that episode. That's my fair nerd. Hey, buddy, do you
see that?

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Nerd?

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
Excuse me?

Speaker 4 (01:16:30):
My favorite line from that episode is, is that a
sound of a pig fainting?

Speaker 5 (01:16:35):
Like that?

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Do that?

Speaker 5 (01:16:37):
That's what it was?

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
Tingum danum, Sorry for the running you over prank, prank.
I think that. I think my favorite moments of that
episode are Homer in class. There's one class where he,
like I think it's this episode, sees a squirrel and
he runs. You see him running outside of the classroom
and then through the window. You see him chasing the
squirrel around the tree. Also, the professor makes a nuclear

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fission joke and everybody in the class laughs but Homer.
And then the professor drops his notes and no one
laughs but Homer. That is just so genius. But anyways,
I could talk about Homer goes to college all day.
Thank you for listening to Ryan, title of the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
Just calling in, I think okay.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
And thank you Craig. We were going to bring this
to a part two. We're gonna end the Pixar s
tier list. Thank you for listening easy so much, blending
oh so freely behind them like they're really queasy