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September 16, 2025 417 mins
In this episode of the Curious Realm Podcast, Host Christopher Jordan ventures forth to the 2025 Turning the Tide 9/11 Justice Conference in Washington, DC. Sponsored by the International Center for 9/11 Justice, this one-of-a-kind conference brings together the best researchers in the world of 9/112 research with everything from presentations, to open forum debates on the topic and new data that has been found in recent years concerning the most tragic event to ever occur on US soil.
In the first part of this episode we welcome Wayne Coste. We discuss his latest data regarding the attack on the Pentagon in Washington, DC on 9/11. From his research he has found that the case for the Pentagon being struck by a plane is absolute. From frames of video showing a plane, to damage on objects as well as the pentagon itself, which is indicative of a plane, not a missile, and even new discovered flight recorder data that confirms these data points. Our second guest is author and researcher, Madhava Setty, MD. We discuss his book Woke. An Anesthesiologist's View and how the principles discussed in it apply to field of 9/11 research as well as his work with the International Center for 9/11 Justice. How are we to discern fact from fiction? How we can begin to open minds to the reality of science, which shows the events of 9/112 and the fall of buildings in New York were NOT caused by fire. As well as how now, 25 years later, hearts and minds of not only the public, but survivors, and families of victims may be ready to face these hard truths. Our next guest is Dr Aaron Good, political scientist, and author of the book, American Exception: Empire and the Deep State. We discuss the many ways that the September 11th attacks were exploited by the national security state to justify more covert operations and expand US imperial power. As well as the long history of imperialistic actions by the United States across the globe and many ways that has led our country down a road of political self-destruction. Next, we welcome Dr Richard Elelfritz, assistant professor of sociology, and author of Gale Researcher Guide for: Social Media and Global Social Movements. We sit down to discuss the long-term sociologic and psychologic effects that the 9/11 attacks have had on society, as well as the ways in which personal belief and bias affect the way we take in data about world shaking catastrophic events like these. Up next, we sit down with physicist, physics teacher, and researcher with 911SpeakOut.org, David Chandler to discuss his expert analysis of the events of 9/11 and how the narrative provided in the National Institute of Science report provided on the twin towers and world trade center building seven do not add up scientifically. We also get into the physics of the building falls as they happened and the numerous anomalies not only in the NIST report, but on videos of the events themselves. Next, we welcome Dr Piers Robinson, research director of the International Center of 9/11 Justice, and board member and researcher for the Organisation for Propaganda Studies. We get into the media’s involvement with pushing the false narratives presented after the 9/11 disasters. We also discuss the long-time relationship of the media with the CIA and other propaganda creating groups and the numerous cases throughout US history of propaganda being used as a false flag leading the United States into for-profit war mongering actions across the globe. Our next guest is .css-j9qmi7{display:-webkit-box;display:-webkit-flex;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-webkit-flex-direction:row;-ms-flex-direction:row;flex-direction:row;font-weight:700;margin-bottom:1rem;margin-top:2.8rem;width:100%;-webkit-box-pack:start;-ms-flex-pack:start;-webkit-justify-content:start;justify-content:start;padding-left:5rem;}@media only screen and (max-width: 599px){.css-j9qmi7{padding-left:0;-webkit-box-pack:center;-ms-flex-pack:center;-webkit-justify-content:center;justify-content:center;}}.css-j9qmi7 svg{fill:#27292D;}.css-j9qmi7 .eagfbvw0{-webkit-align-items:center;-webkit-box-align:center;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;color:#27292D;}
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