May 28, 2025 • 23 mins
René and Shawn are once again on the dock of the bay this time attempting to talk road trips but as usual get off topic.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Welcome to another Curveball production. Our first episode from the
dock of the Bay, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
And a gorgeous morning. I mean, well, I think every
time we're out here, we always say it's a gorgeous morning,
But this is a gorgeous morning, big fireball staring right
at us.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, I'm pretty much doing the podcast with my eyes
closed at this point.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Right but where we have our usual fisher people are
out enjoying, not catching fish, so far as from what
we can tell.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
When Sean was doing his voice checks, I kept telling
him to be quiet because the fisher people can hear.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Us voices carry I believe is what you're saying, which.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Is I got that song in my head.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yep, we got ourselves. That was not one that we
played on the road trip on the way up here.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
However, it is not, Yeah, Memorial Weekend the unofficial start
to summer particular, I think, all across us, all across
North America at least, but certainly in Minnesota, because it's like, Okay,
we're gonna call this summer about a month early, but
we're gonna call it somemore.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
We have to, because again, we don't have that long
of summer, and so we get up here and you know,
the weather is it's it's gorgeous, but it's not going
to really reach seventy yet we haven't.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Well, it has, but not this weekend, of course. But
as far as Memorial weekends go, the weather is delightful.
It's sunny, n area cloud in the sky, and the
highs have been in the mid sixties. Now, typically this
weekend we don't submerge into the glorious clear lake water. However,
Sean found himself in the lake yesterday, so that made
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for ever time.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, not because I wanted to. It was a little
jet ski fiasco.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
But ooh can I memorialize? And I don't. I'm not
being cheeky about the importance of this weekend. But the
lotion story, Oh Jesus, come on.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Okay, so it's only been told about ten times in
the last I don't know, twelve hours.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
But I feel like if I put it on the podcast,
I might shut up about fair enough, So go for it. Well,
this podcast, actually we decided was going to be primarily
about what makes the perfect road trip. But before I forget,
I want to talk about what happened on our road trip.
We got an early start because I ended up taking
some time off, and we swung into the grocery store
(02:27):
in Brainerd and Sean mentioned that he was out of
lotion at home. That's because I used it all anyway,
he wanted to pick up some lotion and he's like,
what kind should I get? And We're standing in the
aisle looking at the lotions and I'm like, I really
don't care. I have my own motion. And we're going
back and forth and he's like, well what about this one?
And I'm like, well, no, that one's stinky, and he's like, okay, Well,
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I said, I don't care, just get whatever you want.
He said, okay, how about this one? I said, well, no,
that one's got this in it. And he's like, I
thought you didn't care. So, you know, a typical exchange
between a couple probably, So he lands on the dove
and I go, yeah, you know, we should get dove.
I really like how you smell with your bar soap
in the shower. It's funny who we get the lotion.
And Sean had when he was being a pool boy
(03:09):
a couple weeks ago, he burned himself a little bit
and he his skin's a little dry. So I noticed, yes,
skayly So, I noticed when we were at the lake
for a day and a half that his skin was
not improving in any way. And I'd seen him put
this lotion on like three times. And so yesterday it
was time for me to take a shower, and I
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was putting the lotion on and I thought to myself,
this is the shittiest lotion I've ever used. And I
was rubbing and rubbing and rubbing. It wouldn't soak in,
and it finally did, but it was like a paste.
And then I went to blow dry my hair and
my hands were sticky, and I thought, I have to
talk to Sean about this. We are never buying this
lotion again. And as I was upside down blow dry
(03:50):
in my hair, I happened to glance at the bottle
and it was never lotion, It's body wash. So the
reason Sean Scaly's skin was getting worse so is he
just put repeated applications of soap on his skin. So then,
because it's the cabin and there's always some sort of calamity,
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I'm in the bathroom and I'm like, I have to
get all the soap off my skin. So I take
a washcloth and I keep rinsing it and wiping down
my arms and my legs and you know, the parts
where I'd put lotion. And then my mom says, are
you done with the water yet? And I'm standing there
all sudsy, thinking I have lotion on but I have
body wash. I'm like, no, well, I didn't know that
there was a problem with the water softener and something
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had to be done. Anyway, that's the lotion story the end.
I'm not going to talk about it again, but it
was pretty funny. I even told the lady at the
Dollar General yes I know.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Which basically means that anybody that we see gets the story.
And it's excruciating as much as it was for our
listeners to hear it. But that's okay.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I wanted to get say that your skin looks remarkable
now that it actually started putting lotion. Oh and when
Sean was in the lake, and this is what made
me think about it. He didn't know yet that he
had been putting by you wash on. So I come
down and he's in the lake freezing his Rastafari and
nanaise off and I said, while you're down there, you
might want to start scrubbing your arms and legs because
you've got a lot of soap. Anyway, the end, none, no,
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I promise.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
But then we were also we also going down the
lotion storyline, because that's the way he decided to go
with this one. I was introduced to Brazilian bum lotion.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, no idea, what that is that Brazilian bum lotion.
It's Brazilian bum cream.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Okay, it's great, And I.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Was like, hey, I don't Brazilian bum, Like, are we
talking about butts? Here? Are we talking about the unhoused?
And we decided that both of our minds went to butts,
which is probably why Sean was like, yeah, I'll take
some of that brazilion of that. He does smell delightful,
but there's no way I'm spending thirty six bucks on
a toble lotion.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Although, because your mom probably will listen to the podcast,
while it sounds smells delightful, she thought it smelled it
a little bit different.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, mom says it's starting to turn. And women of
a certain age, myself included, we know when beauty products
start to turn. There's I give it a plato smell. Actually,
so Lauren can't smell it. But then when we told
her that, she said, well, that's why I brought it
to the cabin. We're going to use it up. Everybody
at the cabin, men and women alike. We all smell
like Brazilian bumb Now.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yes, awesome. So anyway, so now that we've covered all
of that important information.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
It's funny that was never going to be on the pipe.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
It was never going to be on the podcast, which
is funny because it's called a curveball production and things happen. Wow,
look at all the boats.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Now, well, we're not going to disclose where my cabin is,
but we are adjacent to a fishing hole. Yes, the
Lauren got one last night, first fish of the season.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, and I got I got my first fishing license ever.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
That I can't even believe. You've never had a Minnesota fishing.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Line, Well, I've never fished.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Fun story for our listeners who are becoming grandparents. When
my brother and I each had our children as a
gift when they were born, my parents purchased a lifetime
fishing license for each of their grandchildren, so none of
the grandkids ever have to buy a fishing license and
it's kind of cool. So they just go in and
there's actually a little fish indicator on the back of
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their driver's license that says that they have a lifetime license.
But for some reason, they still have to register it
with the state every year, so they still have to
go through the pain of saying, hey, I want a license,
even though they don't have to pay any money for it.
But I think that's kind of a cool gift if
you're a new grandparent, especially if you have a cabin
or you spend a lot of time on a lake.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
And for those of you who are unfamiliar with fishing
and fishing licenses, yes, it's something you have to do.
You have to go. You have to buy a license
that you keep with you and at any time, if
you're out on a boat and you're fishing the pond
police might stop buy and say, hey, do you have
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a license? And if you don't, then you get a
big fine. And then only that's the license is only
twenty five dollars.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, you know, it helps with the DNR, and it
helps keep the lake stocked and clean, and you know
all the things that the DNR does.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
So that's what Jacob and I were talking about Jacob
being her Rene's nephew, about you know, where does all
the money go and how's it working. So he started
explaining to me about you know about the DNR and
the different the way the money is actually spent once
it's gotten. I'm like, okay, I can I can give
into that. I mean, that's that works for me.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I don't. I don't add it on my tax return though.
You know where you can add money to the election
campaign or you can give additional money to the DNR.
That that's a hard pass for me.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Well, you've given the twenty five dollars, you're good to go.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I do because I don't have a lifetime license. If
you look into it once you're a little older, it's
not something that you're just going to willy nilly add
to your life as an adult. But cool gift for
grandchildren anyway. So we were talking about as the unofficial
kickoff summer road trips because we had our first road
trip to the cabin.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And this time of year again in Minnesota, it is
a big road trip weekend starting Wednesday into Thursday, and
then especially on Friday, then the roads are packed people
leaving the cities heading out to their various cabin spots,
resort spots, whatever they wherever they want to go in
western Wisconsin all throughout Minnesota. And so we started talking about,
(09:30):
you know, when when you road when these people are
road tripping, what is the what is it? What do
you do? How how do you actually put together your
road trip? Are you a, Okay, we're at point A.
We're going to get to point B. That's our goal,
and we're gonna get there as fast as possible. Now
on a Thursday night or Friday night, it's very difficult
because traffic is terrible, right, So you got a plan
(09:52):
for that? I know, Uh, Renee, you're more You're you're
definitely a point A to point B stops on the way.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Well enough for me, it really depends on where we're going.
You know, like anything, I can't ever give a straight answer, Sean,
I know, everything is an essay question.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
That's why I'm turning off my microphone having a sip
of coffee.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Go. No, I'm just you know, like back and forth
to the cabin because we were trying to figure it
out on the way up, and we figure I've probably
made this trip over four hundred times in my life. Easily,
and we were thinking a road trip like that for
me is more point a to point B. I've stopped
at all of the crazy spots along the way. I've
went to Treasure City in Royalton. You know. When I
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was younger, we went to Paul Bunyan Land and deer
Land and you know, I've been to Dairy Queen more
times than I should have. And so those types of
trips for me, like this.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
One, the Chocolate ox is that what?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Oh yeah, the kids love going to I don't ever
go there because you have to get off the road. See,
I'm a little bit more point a to point b.
Like for instance, we were talking about road trip snacks
and food depending on where you're going. Are you going
to have a meal on the way to the cabin?
For us, the cabin is about a two and a
half hour drive tops if you if there's not a
lot of traffic and you don't have stop planned. So
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the thing is is are we going to stop and
go in somewhere and eat? Are we going to just
eat on the fly? Right?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And we're more eat on the fly people. I mean,
Sean bless him is has no problem at all with
a gas station sandwich.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Again, it's you pull in, he gets you stop, you
get some gas, you run in, you get your beef jerky.
You might get your your your deli sandwich, a nice
a nice ham and cheese, maybe maybe an Italian HOGI
there you go, grab that out of the out of
the refrigerator section.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
For some reason, I'm afraid I'll a quick trip. Notwithstanding
because you know I'm a big quicktik fan, and I
will say, as far as breakfast sandwiches go, the western
omelet croissant. Sorry, quick, but.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Then you got to heat it up.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
No, no, no, it comes section. No, I don't. I don't
do the little deli sandwich. Well, I don't really do
that much. But I'm telling you this is such a
this is such a Yeah, I'm not going to get
into how I know all this, but it comes up. Okay,
fair enough, and so but we typically eat on the
fly with a handheld sandwich of sorts. Yes, jerky, we're
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big road trip jerky people.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
But it has to be wherever we stop, at least
for me anyway, whether it's a gas station or an
eating place, it has to be on the side of
the road that you're going. You don't want to ever
have to cross the road the interstate to get to
your spot, because you got to then got to come
back across.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
It's preferred certainly. I mean, unless there's like an emergency bathroom.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Well there's there's that and that, or you see that
there's that loan McDonald's and you know the arches are
only on the.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Left right, and so you got to stop some fries, correct,
Or you don't want fries, but you make sure the
person in the car next to you orders fries so
that you can steal their fries.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
That's how it works. The and then and then if then,
because we've done this trip to the cabin so many times,
we know the place is not to stop because it's
going to be forever. I e. The uh and I
apologize to the Taco Bell and Brainerd, but we're never
stopping there again.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Well at least, yeah, it's technically Baxter. I don't know
if there's a Taco Bell and Brainard. So we want
to make sure people are aware of the wonder world
woid Taco Bell in Baxter. You may as well go
to a fine dining establishment or a supper club and
plan on spending two hours there is no getting in
and out of there.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
No, it did take a rather long time for us
to get our Taco Bell order.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
But it actually became comical because what Tanner was with
us on that trip, I believe, and you two were
like ready to give up your dreams of Taco Bell
at that point.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, we paid for it and everything, We're like just
leave it.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Well it didn't, but it took an.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Out, did not. But again yeah, so you so again,
it does depend on where you're going. And like if
you're doing a long road trip from here, like to
Wyoming or something, yeah, you're going to stop along the
way and see some sites. You're not just going to go, Okay,
well we want to get to Wyoming to the dude
ranch just top my head. And what we're gonna do
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is we're gonna stop where. We're not going to stop
the entire time. We're just going to get there. But
well you'll want to stop, and uh, if you want
to stop a Medora, you take that route? Do you
take a longer route to get to your point B
so you can see different sites along the way, knowing
that when you're done with your trip, it's always point
A to point B. When it's time for to come home.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
That's true. When you're coming home, it's pretty much a
dead head back. However, I have no interest in going
on a long road trip as point A to point B.
If it's a long road trip in an area i've
never been, Like, if it's a trip like the cabin,
then I've made a zillion times. That's fine. But one
thing this year I'm bitter about is I didn't road
trip back from Phoenix with Tanner. And we have had
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a fantastic as I've discussed on the podcast at nauseum
road trips, finding different places, hiking different places, and I
was cheated out of that. This year. We shipped his
car back, which was really expensive, and what did I
get from it? No new sup years. I can't say
that I was in another state that I haven't been in.
I haven't hiked any beautiful places. So but come August
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when he goes back down there, we're going to take
another new route.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Oh jeez, congratulations Tanner, Poor Tanner.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Right, So you know, I really love these road trips.
I think he likes him too, because he's definitely not
a point A to point B person, which is the
main reason why we shipped his car back. I had
a work event, and so it was going to have
to be this like deadhead from Phoenix to Minneapolis, and
I have no interest in that, but the poor kid.
Like when we think about our kids and the way
they have electronic entertainment in the car on any road trip,
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it's so different than our experience growing up, right, But
the one thing that my kids have in common with
my childhood is the sing along. And I mean we're
not talking hokeys camp songs, although that's been done too.
We're talking who controls the DJ or who's the DJ,
who controls the sound? And then at what point do
people just start putting headphones in to listen to their
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own stuff because they're tired of your voice, which is
and when I say your voice, I mean my voice
completely off key.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
The So I think we've talked about this before a
road trip with Renee and the music and how it's uh,
you don't get to you don't get to listen to
the entire song, although she points it out that if
she knows the words and if it's her favorite song,
then she will play the whole song. Most of it
is you just get your snippets your bumper music, as
they would say, the biz.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Well for you though, when we're on road trips, Sean
likes himself some bangers and that's great, you know. I'm hey,
I used to be a heavy metal music director back
in my college years, right, so I like a good banger.
I like classic rock. But for me on a road trip,
I need to know the lyrics. I want to sing along. Yes,
it isn't a beat thing for me. That's when we're dancing,
I want to sing along. So although you know we
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take turns, I mean it's it's a it's a five
to one ratio. I think I picked five songs to
your one, typically because I'm like, okay, it's your turn next.
But then he hasn't come up with anything yet, and
so then I just take over some other Well you
know who you know who I love to road trip
with is Lauren. No matter the length of the road trip,
we spend at least an hour, even on a cabin trip,
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but on a longer road trip hours just belting out
songs like we are the songbirds of the century, and
we actually convince ourselves we sound pretty good. And honestly,
I'm tone deaf, so I know that's not true. And
when you road trip with Noah, he likes to sing.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
He likes to sing. And and here's the thing, I
can't sing. You like to sing, No I cannot. And
soople the people who are with or with me, if
they're singing, I'm totally fine with that, is all, because
again I'm not I'm not a music aficionado at all.
I don't I know what I like, and that's as
far as I go.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Well, especially because one of your favorite road trip songs
is by Dwayne Johnson, Dwayne the Rock Johnson, and it's
from the Muana soundtrack, You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Because because I it's just just one of my theme songs,
one of my many theme songs that I have.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, I mean, that wouldn't be your favorite song, but
I would say that in every road trip, but almost
almost every road trip, it makes an appearance.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Well yeah, but uh but yeah, so And and when
I'm when I'm traveling, well, when I'm by myself in
the car and I'm doing a trip of some sort,
it's generally talk radio, sports or other just because it's
just too it's just what i'd much rather listen to.
Occasionally I'll throw some music on. Well, what if I'm
road tripping by myself and Renee's at home or something,
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She'll typically text me a song, Hey, play the song.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, well you've done that for me too. It's like,
here's some let me be your DJ for an hour.
Depending on the length of the road trip, right, if
it's a long road trip, I have to bust it
up with podcasts, you know, songs that I can sing
along to, just some gentle music to kind of admire
the landscape, Like if I'm in the well, if I'm
in the mountains, then I'm definitely playing some John Denver. Yeah,
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even though like when we were down in uh we
were in the Rocky mountains, but we were playing why
can I think of the name of the song home?
It doesn't matter anyway, we can edit this part out.
We were singing it on the way up here anyhow.
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So yeah, that's what I got about that. So everybody
has a different approach to the road trips.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And again, these days, I mean, and you could do
it in the I shouldn't say these days. In the past,
we all had our walkmans with our cassette players and
our headphones, so we could listen to our own stuff
that we wanted to unless.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
You forget the disc man. You couldn't jostle it too
much or your CD would skip right.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
But you you can do it that way. But however,
those back and back in that day, unless you had
the cigarette car charger, you had to really ration your
own music because the batteries only lasted so long.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Oh my gosh, when you think of how many batteries
those things, yes, cook it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
You buy bricks.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
That industry must really be suffering. Yes, when you think
about all the rechargeable batteries that exist now, like your
door cells and your energizers, I mean they I'm surprised
they're not asking for federal relief at this point.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I agree, because you know, there's just nothing out there
except you know what, our podcast recorder is now using batteries.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I was just thinking that, you know, And I was
chuckling because a friend of mine just got back from
New Orleans and I was talking about how when we
were in New Orleans, we spent hours walking along the
river looking for a place to plug our podcast You're in,
only to find out that it was battery operated, even
though we had been doing this for more than three years.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
No, we had not at that time. That time, it
was a two years okay, But anyway, we don't we
don't talk about that. That's that's stuff I'm supposed to know.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
And you're nudging, you're nudging homeless people off a bench
so that you can check the power. Come to find
out that never happened. And of course they're not just
willy nilly running power along the Mississippi River.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
They're not well. And that's the thing is when we're
when we're looking for was the day prior, we're walking
along and we're seeing all these outlets, right, we're just like,
there's outlets of plenty. We won't have any trouble at
all walking by and just finding someplace to plug in.
But of course we didn't put the two and two
together that you doubt the city of New Orleans is
just having all those outlets hot for anybody to stop,
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buy and plug stuff in.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Correct. Also, I'd like to say, you never would nudge
a homeless person or another always person off their bench.
As a matter of fact, you were hustled. This is
a great story which if you haven't listened to our
New Orleans podcast, highly recommend. It's one of my favorites.
But Sean got hustled in New Orleans. A guy came
up to him and said, if I can tell you
where you got them shoes, we let me shine him
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for you. And Sean's like what And he says, if
I tell you where you got them shoes, well let
me shine him for you. And Sean's like, sure if
I can remember. And the guy says, you got him
on the bottom of your goddamn feet, And that was
pretty funny.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
It was.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
And so then he takes Sean's shoe and puts it
up on his knee and applies some brown liquid and
start shining them. Have no idea what it was, and
then does the other one, and then he goes, that'll
be forty bucks. Sean's like, what just happened? You did
give him a twenty.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Second twenty for the twenty for the shoe shine in
the entertainment.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
And I did. Yeah, I thought that was a pretty
solid hush, Yeah, it was pretty good. Well, anyway, that
has nothing to do with road trips, but it's a
Curveball production.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Well, it was a trip that we took and it
was on the road, so we can go from there anyway.
So I don't know that we've actually covered what we
were going to cover on this particular road tripping.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
No, because you wanted to talk about dancing.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Didn't you, Well, no, I was gonna would. We were
gonna we were talking about, you know, our favorite song
comes on, we're gonna talk, we're gonna get all into
music tribalism, and we'll save that for another one. And
then we were trying to figure out because I said,
those songs, I like, are you know if I can
dance to it? And then it made me think of
what the show I couldn't think of, and you found
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out the name of it was American Bandstand. It couldn't
think of it, and that was going to go another route.
We didn't go that route because you know what we would.
We didn't go from point A to point B on
this one. We didn't wait all the way all the
way around stops along the way. So whatever you did
for your weekend, if you just stayed at home and
enjoyed it, if you got some yardwork done, if you
didn't do a gosh darn thing, I hope you had
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a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Yeah, And I hope that you took a moment to,
you know, remember the people who we've lost to because
technically that's what this weekend's all about. It isn't supposed
to be the official start to summer, the unofficial start
to summer. It's about remembering people we've lost, particularly our veterans.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
This has been another Curveball production
Welcome to another Curveball production. Our first episode from the
dock of the Bay, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
And a gorgeous morning. I mean, well, I think every
time we're out here, we always say it's a gorgeous morning,
But this is a gorgeous morning, big fireball staring right
at us.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, I'm pretty much doing the podcast with my eyes
closed at this point.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Right but where we have our usual fisher people are
out enjoying, not catching fish, so far as from what
we can tell.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
When Sean was doing his voice checks, I kept telling
him to be quiet because the fisher people can hear.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Us voices carry I believe is what you're saying, which.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Is I got that song in my head.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yep, we got ourselves. That was not one that we
played on the road trip on the way up here.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
However, it is not, Yeah, Memorial Weekend the unofficial start
to summer particular, I think, all across us, all across
North America at least, but certainly in Minnesota, because it's like, Okay,
we're gonna call this summer about a month early, but
we're gonna call it somemore.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
We have to, because again, we don't have that long
of summer, and so we get up here and you know,
the weather is it's it's gorgeous, but it's not going
to really reach seventy yet we haven't.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Well, it has, but not this weekend, of course. But
as far as Memorial weekends go, the weather is delightful.
It's sunny, n area cloud in the sky, and the
highs have been in the mid sixties. Now, typically this
weekend we don't submerge into the glorious clear lake water. However,
Sean found himself in the lake yesterday, so that made
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for ever time.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, not because I wanted to. It was a little
jet ski fiasco.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
But ooh can I memorialize? And I don't. I'm not
being cheeky about the importance of this weekend. But the
lotion story, Oh Jesus, come on.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Okay, so it's only been told about ten times in
the last I don't know, twelve hours.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
But I feel like if I put it on the podcast,
I might shut up about fair enough, So go for it. Well,
this podcast, actually we decided was going to be primarily
about what makes the perfect road trip. But before I forget,
I want to talk about what happened on our road trip.
We got an early start because I ended up taking
some time off, and we swung into the grocery store
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in Brainerd and Sean mentioned that he was out of
lotion at home. That's because I used it all anyway,
he wanted to pick up some lotion and he's like,
what kind should I get? And We're standing in the
aisle looking at the lotions and I'm like, I really
don't care. I have my own motion. And we're going
back and forth and he's like, well what about this one?
And I'm like, well, no, that one's stinky, and he's like, okay, Well,
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I said, I don't care, just get whatever you want.
He said, okay, how about this one? I said, well, no,
that one's got this in it. And he's like, I
thought you didn't care. So, you know, a typical exchange
between a couple probably, So he lands on the dove
and I go, yeah, you know, we should get dove.
I really like how you smell with your bar soap
in the shower. It's funny who we get the lotion.
And Sean had when he was being a pool boy
(03:09):
a couple weeks ago, he burned himself a little bit
and he his skin's a little dry. So I noticed, yes,
skayly So, I noticed when we were at the lake
for a day and a half that his skin was
not improving in any way. And I'd seen him put
this lotion on like three times. And so yesterday it
was time for me to take a shower, and I
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was putting the lotion on and I thought to myself,
this is the shittiest lotion I've ever used. And I
was rubbing and rubbing and rubbing. It wouldn't soak in,
and it finally did, but it was like a paste.
And then I went to blow dry my hair and
my hands were sticky, and I thought, I have to
talk to Sean about this. We are never buying this
lotion again. And as I was upside down blow dry
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in my hair, I happened to glance at the bottle
and it was never lotion, It's body wash. So the
reason Sean Scaly's skin was getting worse so is he
just put repeated applications of soap on his skin. So then,
because it's the cabin and there's always some sort of calamity,
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I'm in the bathroom and I'm like, I have to
get all the soap off my skin. So I take
a washcloth and I keep rinsing it and wiping down
my arms and my legs and you know, the parts
where I'd put lotion. And then my mom says, are
you done with the water yet? And I'm standing there
all sudsy, thinking I have lotion on but I have
body wash. I'm like, no, well, I didn't know that
there was a problem with the water softener and something
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had to be done. Anyway, that's the lotion story the end.
I'm not going to talk about it again, but it
was pretty funny. I even told the lady at the
Dollar General yes I know.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Which basically means that anybody that we see gets the story.
And it's excruciating as much as it was for our
listeners to hear it. But that's okay.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I wanted to get say that your skin looks remarkable
now that it actually started putting lotion. Oh and when
Sean was in the lake, and this is what made
me think about it. He didn't know yet that he
had been putting by you wash on. So I come
down and he's in the lake freezing his Rastafari and
nanaise off and I said, while you're down there, you
might want to start scrubbing your arms and legs because
you've got a lot of soap. Anyway, the end, none, no,
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I promise.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
But then we were also we also going down the
lotion storyline, because that's the way he decided to go
with this one. I was introduced to Brazilian bum lotion.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, no idea, what that is that Brazilian bum lotion.
It's Brazilian bum cream.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Okay, it's great, And I.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Was like, hey, I don't Brazilian bum, Like, are we
talking about butts? Here? Are we talking about the unhoused?
And we decided that both of our minds went to butts,
which is probably why Sean was like, yeah, I'll take
some of that brazilion of that. He does smell delightful,
but there's no way I'm spending thirty six bucks on
a toble lotion.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Although, because your mom probably will listen to the podcast,
while it sounds smells delightful, she thought it smelled it
a little bit different.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, mom says it's starting to turn. And women of
a certain age, myself included, we know when beauty products
start to turn. There's I give it a plato smell. Actually,
so Lauren can't smell it. But then when we told
her that, she said, well, that's why I brought it
to the cabin. We're going to use it up. Everybody
at the cabin, men and women alike. We all smell
like Brazilian bumb Now.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yes, awesome. So anyway, so now that we've covered all
of that important information.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
It's funny that was never going to be on the pipe.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
It was never going to be on the podcast, which
is funny because it's called a curveball production and things happen. Wow,
look at all the boats.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Now, well, we're not going to disclose where my cabin is,
but we are adjacent to a fishing hole. Yes, the
Lauren got one last night, first fish of the season.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, and I got I got my first fishing license ever.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
That I can't even believe. You've never had a Minnesota fishing.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Line, Well, I've never fished.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Fun story for our listeners who are becoming grandparents. When
my brother and I each had our children as a
gift when they were born, my parents purchased a lifetime
fishing license for each of their grandchildren, so none of
the grandkids ever have to buy a fishing license and
it's kind of cool. So they just go in and
there's actually a little fish indicator on the back of
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their driver's license that says that they have a lifetime license.
But for some reason, they still have to register it
with the state every year, so they still have to
go through the pain of saying, hey, I want a license,
even though they don't have to pay any money for it.
But I think that's kind of a cool gift if
you're a new grandparent, especially if you have a cabin
or you spend a lot of time on a lake.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
And for those of you who are unfamiliar with fishing
and fishing licenses, yes, it's something you have to do.
You have to go. You have to buy a license
that you keep with you and at any time, if
you're out on a boat and you're fishing the pond
police might stop buy and say, hey, do you have
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a license? And if you don't, then you get a
big fine. And then only that's the license is only
twenty five dollars.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, you know, it helps with the DNR, and it
helps keep the lake stocked and clean, and you know
all the things that the DNR does.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
So that's what Jacob and I were talking about Jacob
being her Rene's nephew, about you know, where does all
the money go and how's it working. So he started
explaining to me about you know about the DNR and
the different the way the money is actually spent once
it's gotten. I'm like, okay, I can I can give
into that. I mean, that's that works for me.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I don't. I don't add it on my tax return though.
You know where you can add money to the election
campaign or you can give additional money to the DNR.
That that's a hard pass for me.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Well, you've given the twenty five dollars, you're good to go.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I do because I don't have a lifetime license. If
you look into it once you're a little older, it's
not something that you're just going to willy nilly add
to your life as an adult. But cool gift for
grandchildren anyway. So we were talking about as the unofficial
kickoff summer road trips because we had our first road
trip to the cabin.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
And this time of year again in Minnesota, it is
a big road trip weekend starting Wednesday into Thursday, and
then especially on Friday, then the roads are packed people
leaving the cities heading out to their various cabin spots,
resort spots, whatever they wherever they want to go in
western Wisconsin all throughout Minnesota. And so we started talking about,
(09:30):
you know, when when you road when these people are
road tripping, what is the what is it? What do
you do? How how do you actually put together your
road trip? Are you a, Okay, we're at point A.
We're going to get to point B. That's our goal,
and we're gonna get there as fast as possible. Now
on a Thursday night or Friday night, it's very difficult
because traffic is terrible, right, So you got a plan
(09:52):
for that? I know, Uh, Renee, you're more You're you're
definitely a point A to point B stops on the way.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Well enough for me, it really depends on where we're going.
You know, like anything, I can't ever give a straight answer, Sean,
I know, everything is an essay question.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
That's why I'm turning off my microphone having a sip
of coffee.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Go. No, I'm just you know, like back and forth
to the cabin because we were trying to figure it
out on the way up, and we figure I've probably
made this trip over four hundred times in my life. Easily,
and we were thinking a road trip like that for
me is more point a to point B. I've stopped
at all of the crazy spots along the way. I've
went to Treasure City in Royalton. You know. When I
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was younger, we went to Paul Bunyan Land and deer
Land and you know, I've been to Dairy Queen more
times than I should have. And so those types of
trips for me, like this.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
One, the Chocolate ox is that what?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Oh yeah, the kids love going to I don't ever
go there because you have to get off the road. See,
I'm a little bit more point a to point b.
Like for instance, we were talking about road trip snacks
and food depending on where you're going. Are you going
to have a meal on the way to the cabin?
For us, the cabin is about a two and a
half hour drive tops if you if there's not a
lot of traffic and you don't have stop planned. So
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the thing is is are we going to stop and
go in somewhere and eat? Are we going to just
eat on the fly? Right?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And we're more eat on the fly people. I mean,
Sean bless him is has no problem at all with
a gas station sandwich.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Again, it's you pull in, he gets you stop, you
get some gas, you run in, you get your beef jerky.
You might get your your your deli sandwich, a nice
a nice ham and cheese, maybe maybe an Italian HOGI
there you go, grab that out of the out of
the refrigerator section.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
For some reason, I'm afraid I'll a quick trip. Notwithstanding
because you know I'm a big quicktik fan, and I
will say, as far as breakfast sandwiches go, the western
omelet croissant. Sorry, quick, but.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Then you got to heat it up.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
No, no, no, it comes section. No, I don't. I don't
do the little deli sandwich. Well, I don't really do
that much. But I'm telling you this is such a
this is such a Yeah, I'm not going to get
into how I know all this, but it comes up. Okay,
fair enough, and so but we typically eat on the
fly with a handheld sandwich of sorts. Yes, jerky, we're
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big road trip jerky people.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
But it has to be wherever we stop, at least
for me anyway, whether it's a gas station or an
eating place, it has to be on the side of
the road that you're going. You don't want to ever
have to cross the road the interstate to get to
your spot, because you got to then got to come
back across.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
It's preferred certainly. I mean, unless there's like an emergency bathroom.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Well there's there's that and that, or you see that
there's that loan McDonald's and you know the arches are
only on the.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Left right, and so you got to stop some fries, correct,
Or you don't want fries, but you make sure the
person in the car next to you orders fries so
that you can steal their fries.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
That's how it works. The and then and then if then,
because we've done this trip to the cabin so many times,
we know the place is not to stop because it's
going to be forever. I e. The uh and I
apologize to the Taco Bell and Brainerd, but we're never
stopping there again.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Well at least, yeah, it's technically Baxter. I don't know
if there's a Taco Bell and Brainard. So we want
to make sure people are aware of the wonder world
woid Taco Bell in Baxter. You may as well go
to a fine dining establishment or a supper club and
plan on spending two hours there is no getting in
and out of there.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
No, it did take a rather long time for us
to get our Taco Bell order.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
But it actually became comical because what Tanner was with
us on that trip, I believe, and you two were
like ready to give up your dreams of Taco Bell
at that point.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, we paid for it and everything, We're like just
leave it.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Well it didn't, but it took an.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Out, did not. But again yeah, so you so again,
it does depend on where you're going. And like if
you're doing a long road trip from here, like to
Wyoming or something, yeah, you're going to stop along the
way and see some sites. You're not just going to go, Okay,
well we want to get to Wyoming to the dude
ranch just top my head. And what we're gonna do
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is we're gonna stop where. We're not going to stop
the entire time. We're just going to get there. But
well you'll want to stop, and uh, if you want
to stop a Medora, you take that route? Do you
take a longer route to get to your point B
so you can see different sites along the way, knowing
that when you're done with your trip, it's always point
A to point B. When it's time for to come home.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
That's true. When you're coming home, it's pretty much a
dead head back. However, I have no interest in going
on a long road trip as point A to point B.
If it's a long road trip in an area i've
never been, Like, if it's a trip like the cabin,
then I've made a zillion times. That's fine. But one
thing this year I'm bitter about is I didn't road
trip back from Phoenix with Tanner. And we have had
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a fantastic as I've discussed on the podcast at nauseum
road trips, finding different places, hiking different places, and I
was cheated out of that. This year. We shipped his
car back, which was really expensive, and what did I
get from it? No new sup years. I can't say
that I was in another state that I haven't been in.
I haven't hiked any beautiful places. So but come August
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when he goes back down there, we're going to take
another new route.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Oh jeez, congratulations Tanner, Poor Tanner.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Right, So you know, I really love these road trips.
I think he likes him too, because he's definitely not
a point A to point B person, which is the
main reason why we shipped his car back. I had
a work event, and so it was going to have
to be this like deadhead from Phoenix to Minneapolis, and
I have no interest in that, but the poor kid.
Like when we think about our kids and the way
they have electronic entertainment in the car on any road trip,
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it's so different than our experience growing up, right, But
the one thing that my kids have in common with
my childhood is the sing along. And I mean we're
not talking hokeys camp songs, although that's been done too.
We're talking who controls the DJ or who's the DJ,
who controls the sound? And then at what point do
people just start putting headphones in to listen to their
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own stuff because they're tired of your voice, which is
and when I say your voice, I mean my voice
completely off key.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
The So I think we've talked about this before a
road trip with Renee and the music and how it's uh,
you don't get to you don't get to listen to
the entire song, although she points it out that if
she knows the words and if it's her favorite song,
then she will play the whole song. Most of it
is you just get your snippets your bumper music, as
they would say, the biz.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Well for you though, when we're on road trips, Sean
likes himself some bangers and that's great, you know. I'm hey,
I used to be a heavy metal music director back
in my college years, right, so I like a good banger.
I like classic rock. But for me on a road trip,
I need to know the lyrics. I want to sing along. Yes,
it isn't a beat thing for me. That's when we're dancing,
I want to sing along. So although you know we
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take turns, I mean it's it's a it's a five
to one ratio. I think I picked five songs to
your one, typically because I'm like, okay, it's your turn next.
But then he hasn't come up with anything yet, and
so then I just take over some other Well you
know who you know who I love to road trip
with is Lauren. No matter the length of the road trip,
we spend at least an hour, even on a cabin trip,
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but on a longer road trip hours just belting out
songs like we are the songbirds of the century, and
we actually convince ourselves we sound pretty good. And honestly,
I'm tone deaf, so I know that's not true. And
when you road trip with Noah, he likes to sing.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
He likes to sing. And and here's the thing, I
can't sing. You like to sing, No I cannot. And
soople the people who are with or with me, if
they're singing, I'm totally fine with that, is all, because
again I'm not I'm not a music aficionado at all.
I don't I know what I like, and that's as
far as I go.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Well, especially because one of your favorite road trip songs
is by Dwayne Johnson, Dwayne the Rock Johnson, and it's
from the Muana soundtrack, You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Because because I it's just just one of my theme songs,
one of my many theme songs that I have.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, I mean, that wouldn't be your favorite song, but
I would say that in every road trip, but almost
almost every road trip, it makes an appearance.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Well yeah, but uh but yeah, so And and when
I'm when I'm traveling, well, when I'm by myself in
the car and I'm doing a trip of some sort,
it's generally talk radio, sports or other just because it's
just too it's just what i'd much rather listen to.
Occasionally I'll throw some music on. Well, what if I'm
road tripping by myself and Renee's at home or something,
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She'll typically text me a song, Hey, play the song.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah, well you've done that for me too. It's like,
here's some let me be your DJ for an hour.
Depending on the length of the road trip, right, if
it's a long road trip, I have to bust it
up with podcasts, you know, songs that I can sing
along to, just some gentle music to kind of admire
the landscape, Like if I'm in the well, if I'm
in the mountains, then I'm definitely playing some John Denver. Yeah,
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even though like when we were down in uh we
were in the Rocky mountains, but we were playing why
can I think of the name of the song home?
It doesn't matter anyway, we can edit this part out.
We were singing it on the way up here anyhow.
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So yeah, that's what I got about that. So everybody
has a different approach to the road trips.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And again, these days, I mean, and you could do
it in the I shouldn't say these days. In the past,
we all had our walkmans with our cassette players and
our headphones, so we could listen to our own stuff
that we wanted to unless.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
You forget the disc man. You couldn't jostle it too
much or your CD would skip right.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
But you you can do it that way. But however,
those back and back in that day, unless you had
the cigarette car charger, you had to really ration your
own music because the batteries only lasted so long.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Oh my gosh, when you think of how many batteries
those things, yes, cook it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
You buy bricks.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
That industry must really be suffering. Yes, when you think
about all the rechargeable batteries that exist now, like your
door cells and your energizers, I mean they I'm surprised
they're not asking for federal relief at this point.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I agree, because you know, there's just nothing out there
except you know what, our podcast recorder is now using batteries.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I was just thinking that, you know, And I was
chuckling because a friend of mine just got back from
New Orleans and I was talking about how when we
were in New Orleans, we spent hours walking along the
river looking for a place to plug our podcast You're in,
only to find out that it was battery operated, even
though we had been doing this for more than three years.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
No, we had not at that time. That time, it
was a two years okay, But anyway, we don't we
don't talk about that. That's that's stuff I'm supposed to know.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
And you're nudging, you're nudging homeless people off a bench
so that you can check the power. Come to find
out that never happened. And of course they're not just
willy nilly running power along the Mississippi River.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
They're not well. And that's the thing is when we're
when we're looking for was the day prior, we're walking
along and we're seeing all these outlets, right, we're just like,
there's outlets of plenty. We won't have any trouble at
all walking by and just finding someplace to plug in.
But of course we didn't put the two and two
together that you doubt the city of New Orleans is
just having all those outlets hot for anybody to stop,
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buy and plug stuff in.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Correct. Also, I'd like to say, you never would nudge
a homeless person or another always person off their bench.
As a matter of fact, you were hustled. This is
a great story which if you haven't listened to our
New Orleans podcast, highly recommend. It's one of my favorites.
But Sean got hustled in New Orleans. A guy came
up to him and said, if I can tell you
where you got them shoes, we let me shine him
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for you. And Sean's like what And he says, if
I tell you where you got them shoes, well let
me shine him for you. And Sean's like, sure if
I can remember. And the guy says, you got him
on the bottom of your goddamn feet, And that was
pretty funny.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
It was.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
And so then he takes Sean's shoe and puts it
up on his knee and applies some brown liquid and
start shining them. Have no idea what it was, and
then does the other one, and then he goes, that'll
be forty bucks. Sean's like, what just happened? You did
give him a twenty.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Second twenty for the twenty for the shoe shine in
the entertainment.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
And I did. Yeah, I thought that was a pretty
solid hush, Yeah, it was pretty good. Well, anyway, that
has nothing to do with road trips, but it's a
Curveball production.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Well, it was a trip that we took and it
was on the road, so we can go from there anyway.
So I don't know that we've actually covered what we
were going to cover on this particular road tripping.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
No, because you wanted to talk about dancing.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Didn't you, Well, no, I was gonna would. We were
gonna we were talking about, you know, our favorite song
comes on, we're gonna talk, we're gonna get all into
music tribalism, and we'll save that for another one. And
then we were trying to figure out because I said,
those songs, I like, are you know if I can
dance to it? And then it made me think of
what the show I couldn't think of, and you found
(22:38):
out the name of it was American Bandstand. It couldn't
think of it, and that was going to go another route.
We didn't go that route because you know what we would.
We didn't go from point A to point B on
this one. We didn't wait all the way all the
way around stops along the way. So whatever you did
for your weekend, if you just stayed at home and
enjoyed it, if you got some yardwork done, if you
didn't do a gosh darn thing, I hope you had
(23:01):
a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Yeah, And I hope that you took a moment to,
you know, remember the people who we've lost to because
technically that's what this weekend's all about. It isn't supposed
to be the official start to summer, the unofficial start
to summer. It's about remembering people we've lost, particularly our veterans.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
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