May 14, 2025 • 20 mins
Why do we have two of everything? René and Shawn talk about the amazing human body and the redundancy of life.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Welcome to another Curveball production. We are alive and in
the normal studio studio.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
And it is a very chilly studio.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I can't even describe on our PG rated podcast how
chilly it is. Well, it's very chilly.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
The reason behind it is because it is been a
glorious couple of weeks here in Minnesota. The weather's been perfect,
but it's getting to get getting to warm up a
little bit, it is, and that with when you warms
up in my house anyway, we turn the.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Ac on we do at your host. At my house,
we want to turn the ac. Yes, but okay, true story.
Some ac crept out in me last fall, and I'm cheap,
so I'm like, well, we're gonna wait to get a
new one in the spring, thinking that may would be
a good time to do it, not knowing we are
going to be hitting like ninety degrees in May. Nonetheless,
(01:05):
I may have taken the screens off the windows in
some of the rooms because they need to be washed,
and I thought there are no bugs this time of year,
so I opened up Lauren's bedroom window and I was
getting some cross ventilation. Going great idea. However, Comma, my
apple tree is in full bloom, and yesterday we had
gale force winds. If you will, and anyway, I happen
(01:28):
to walk into her bedroom, remember no screen on the window.
Her bedroom looks like a romantic novel. It is little
white flower petals all over her bed, all over the floor.
Quite the mess. Shot backworthy, well done. Lesson learned.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Lesson learned. Don't open the windows or put the screens
back on.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Put the screens back on. Don't be so lazy. Good
news is I do have the AC repair guy. Well
he's not there ac repair guy. It's the AC sales
guy right coming out tomorrow so that I can find
out what the damage and I will.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I will be there to help out, to make sure
that you know, you get a good deal, because I'm
good at that stuff. It's true, I'm really not.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I probably negotiated her, Yes you do.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I'm just like, he's a nice guy.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
You can't play the single mom card.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I can't oh the single mom card.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Which really upsets my nephew. My nephew is like, you
can't play the single mom card. I'm like, I sure can.
He's like, well you have Sean. I'm like, Sean and
I are technically legally single, right, correct? So I mean
when it comes to negotiating a deal in an appliance,
I very single.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And he looked at me and he's like, are you
going to put up with that? And go she's getting
a deal with that? Absolutely? Are you kidding me? Which
I had that card in the pocket.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Well you could be the single dad.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
It didn't work. Whatever, it doesn't work. Yeah, it doesn't work.
It's like, you know, I'm not even going to try that.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I don't know why we got so off topic. Oh,
we were talking about the weather and I have turned
it into the rene.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Well it happens, no, but we're talking about well, you're
a c N sprinkler systems getting fixed too, so it's
gonna be a big week.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
There was something else that's wrong at my house too.
Is umbrella, Oh yeah, which I afectionately called the pergola
because it looks like a bear attacked it.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It is very tattered, and that's getting replaced.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
That is coming on Wednesday. This is it's gonna be
a whole new house by the time the week's over.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
But unfortunately for you, you do not have a redundant air conditioner.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I do not, well, I don't I don't have a
redundant air conditioner, but I do have a pretty solid workaround,
which a redundant house, which is why we're here.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Right, got the redundant house, the air conditioner works here,
and the pool is about to be opened. That's true,
So we got all sorts of stuff going on.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Sean the toolman, Taylor was busy patching the pool this weekend.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
It was yesterday. I spent a Mother's Day after of course,
wish my mother happy Mother's Day. Pool work?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Right, is that when you called me because you unveiled
the pool, you said, oh, yeah, He's like, I pulled
the tart back and you wouldn't believe it. A giant hole,
a giant hole in the side of the pool. I'm
gonna have to fill it. And I thought to myself, oh,
and I'm like, I'm so sorry. This is awful. So
I said, well, send me a pick because it was
a busy weekend. We were doing a lot of hosting
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of birthdays and Mother's Day and things like that. And
so he sends me the picture and I'm like, where's
the hole. It's at most the size of a volleyball,
and it's not even like very deep. It wasn't really
a hole.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
It was a hole.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
But then I thought to myself, he's a guy, it's
really big. Talk about exaggeration.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Wow, not true, But we had to go there. Okay,
explicit Mark and I making a note right now, that's
what we're going.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
To I'm talking about your idea of the size of
repair that needed to happen.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Copy that. That's what you're talking.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Wait a second, though, true story. Be honest, how many
times have you went to Home de Bow or the
pool store or Ace Hardware with all of this?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I did one trip to home Depot for all the
cement and a POxy stuff as well as a not
a trowel. A what's the thing called this? This cement?
I don't know what that is? Well, no, it's god.
It's got another name. I don't know what margin. Maybe
it's a margin trowel.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Perhaps we could get cult on the power and he
could teach us a little bit more about that.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Was that was the only That was the only trip
that I took. Really, it's not finishing, It's not okay.
I went to Ace Hardware to get a sprinkler head
or a faucet redundant fawcet head to stick with the
theme of our potential podcast that we might get to
actually and what else, And there was something else. I
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went to, no, if that was a hardware store for
something else, So really it wasn't. It wasn't about it.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I was just curious because you know, we have this
theory about it. It's not a real project unless you
go three times.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Well, it's not. To your point, it's not done. Water
is not in the pool yet.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
So you did hint to what the topic of our
podcast is going to be.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Renee was talking with a physician the other day and
he brought up just I'm not sure how it came up,
but just brought the thought of the amazing human body
and the redundancy that we have.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, I mean, it really is pretty cool. And I
think we all think about I mean not daily, but
a lot of us know somebody who has either needed
a kidney or got a new kidney or something along
those lines, right, and you think, oh, yeah, you can
a lot. I think it's somewhat general knowledge that people
can live with one kidney. So I right away started
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thinking about that. And he said, you know, the body,
whether you believe in creationism or evolution, or whatever your
thoughts are on. It was beautifully designed with all of
this redundancy, he said, think about it. So he's like,
you've got two lungs you can live with, you know,
only one long and he starts going down. Well, now
he's talking and we're back to the batter at hand.
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I'm like, squirrel, I'm off listing in my head all
of the redundancies I can think of, and it's harder
to think of something that I mean, it's it's easier
to think of something that isn't redundant and finish your list.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And as we're so, we thought to ourselves again it
goes two arms, two legs, two eyeballs, and the.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Two ears for listening.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
You should try to remember use both. Some don't use either.
And what we then then he brought up, okay, I
know what you're thinking. You're thinking, only one heart, one brain,
one liver. How does that work? So the body isn't
all that redundant.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
One knows, but dual nostrils and sinus cavities.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
That is correct.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Well, the thing that we found with the brain is
although there isn't a separate brain, there is something called
the circle of willis which is like the rerouting of
pathways in your brain so that it can't totally be stopped.
Blood flow can continue. It just finds different ways. Similarly,
with the heart, you only have one heart, but you
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have two chambers, and you can technically live with one
chamber or one functioning chamber of your heart. So I
was like, this is crazy. I mean, do I have
two stomachs? Never I just thought of this.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
We never discussed this. But you only have one mouth,
which is why you only have one stomach. Oh, fair enough,
See that's that's how that works. But do you think
about it?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
But think about that if you okay, because this is
all about survival, right, how else would you get food
and nutrition if you didn't have a mouth. I guess
you could go through your situs cavity like you know,
but I mean really like, you have to be able
to eat good. You have to be able to drink
the water the doctor and let him know he forgot.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
One, forgot one because you're in trouble if you don't
have the mouth.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I would think, So that's supposed to be better off
about a month.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I wasn't going to go there, but yeah, so we
started thinking about just you know, the body is very,
very redundant and in what it has to do. And
as it was pointed out to us that it's you
think of it more as the redundancy just being essential
to living. You have to have that redundancy to be
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able to work, to get through life.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Well, the funny part is, if you look up the
definition of redundancy or redundant, it would be something that
is unnecessary. But what we found in this preparation, if
you will, is that, yeah, it really is oftentimes a
bit of a need. It's an essential form of survival
or just our daily function. We started making lists of
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all the other things in our lives that we have
redundancy and that are pretty pretty important we have.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I mean, if you go, like in a business world,
there's redundancy all over the place. Obviously you got your generators,
and in the internet world you got redundant ISPs. Those
are okay things to have.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
They're not very exciting, but they are important.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
They are.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
You know, there's a lot of people have multiple bank accounts,
you know, because what if one of your banks get seized.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Right right, then you got that one in the Caymans,
right exactly, So because you got to.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Have that, or even things like on your car, right,
I mean, think about it. My old car, I operated
with one headlight for eight months. Right, If I didn't
have that one extra headlight, I would have been in
pretty big well I should have been in trouble anyway,
but I probably would have killed someone or myself.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I have two propane tanks because you'd never know, because
what's worse than you're grilling and all of a sudden
you run out of propane and you're stuck there with
a half grilled steak. Not good. Well, unless somebody likes
it rare, we you're okay.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Or you could even make the argument that if you
ran out of propane, you have an oven. But here's
another good example. Alarms. How many alarms do I have
in my phone? I can't even just say I have
two I have. Tanner was laughing so hard on me
the other day. He's like, what are all these alarms for?
And like it keeps me moving in the right direction?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Correct, and it's it's like, oh yeah, one alarm is
to remind you that you forgot the other alarm pretty much,
and the way you go. I mean a lot of
people when you think about it, a lot of people
have two kids. I mean redundancy definitely.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Okay, but that's the thing. One of them isn't unnecessary,
very essential.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
They're essential there is. They're essential to have for multiple
reasons to have two kids.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I would say that for sure, we need to have
redundant gardens or crops. I mean, if you think about
that industry, farmers don't plant one tomato plant or even
in your own garden. I mean, there's a an acceptance
of a failure to some degree, right, So you know
that you have to have redundancy in farming and with
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your gardening.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
You just got for your birthday redundant potted plants. I
did because.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Everybody knows it, and it was it was the best part.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
About it is you got one that works in the
sun and one that works in the shade. So you know,
that's total redundancy as you go back. So that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
What about my rubber scrapers, A lot of rubber scrapers.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
We were we were baking one day, and.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
She's always baked together.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
She's she's going through the rubber scrapers and my job,
my job when she bakes her cooks is to load
the dishwasher, and all of a sudden she's got the
I'm looking and there's like rubber scrapers all over the place,
and she's because she can't like use one and rinse
it off and then use another one when there's a perfect,
good clean one in the drawer, just grab it and
use that one.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I think, I think I have eight rubber scrapers.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yes, and and.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
But the day all but like two were used.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Did they have to all be to all?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
But to be well, you have to worry about cross contamination, Sean, not.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Really, you're baking a cake. I mean it's going to.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Be it's not their allergies. You have to be careful.
You can never be too careful, which brings me to
other redundancies seat belts and air bags. There's some safety
redundancies that we need in our lives.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Some gentlemen have to wear suspenders and belts because you
just never know which one's gonna blow.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Desserts, I mean, if one of them is bad, you
need to have an option for another dessert.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Those are I think, what do we I think we
had three desserts the other day, just to just to
have three.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Oh Saturday at the parties Yeah. We had Princess tort
strawberry short cake, and a lemon thing.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
It's a lemon thing. Yes, three desserts. That was awesome.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I just learned that my family likes to eat, yes,
and he doesn't. It's funny. We were just talking when
you weren't there yesterday. It was like, yeah, Sean doesn't
care much for sweets, and I'm like, well, Sean says
he doesn't care for sweets because he doesn't actively seek treats.
But if they're in front of them, then it's like
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when in row and you get mocked.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
If you don't, I get mocked. That's the number one thing.
If I don't have a dessert, I'm lost. You have
to have dessert.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I come to a food pushers and people who live
in great fear that they will have an event and
not have enough food for the people that are there.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
It's yet, I've yet to be at one of the
events at your mom's house where there has been not
enough food.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
It's never going to happen, which is, mind you. My
mom is eighty two pounds, so it's not like it's
not like she's the problem.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Which is for a leftover guy like myself. Right, I'm
a big fan, true, although a little bitter because you
did make a brunch for your mom and dad Sunday,
which was Mother's Day, and you made a scrumptious breakfast
egg bake thing.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
It was this braided thing. It actually looked pretty good.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yes, that all right.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
But my dad liked it so much. Yes, he was like, oh,
I'm going to have that tomorrow's open.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
That doesn't that doesn't work that way.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I owe you. I owe you that particular. I mean,
aren't you tired of egg beaks? This has just happened
to be a new one.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
No, I'm not tired of eg baks. It's got egg
and it's got meat and it's got cheese.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Speaking of breakfast, you know something else. We have redne
and see with coffee pods, so we both have curic machines.
And I don't plan as well as Sean. I think
everybody has probably picked that up in the podcast by now.
So I have a little jar and then a drawer
where I keep emergency coffee pods so that I don't
ever run out. And I have to have two, yes
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to have two, because you're usually there and I don't
want to be that it happened once.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Remember, Yeah, it was bad.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
We actually I can't believe we made it through that day.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Well, I think I ran out to Starbucks and got
coffee because he is an expensive mistake. Well, it's quite
all right, it was. We had a nice time with that,
I think because now it's now it's so nice that
it's coffee on the deck in the morning. Yeah, which
is always a nice time, just to get relaxed. Suns
starting to come up. No redundancy on the Sun.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Though, there's just ones. Well for us anyway, Yeah, that's
true for other galaxies probably.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Oh yeah, there's other galaxies that have two sons. If
there's a if I can't remember the Star Wars or
Star Trek or Star one of the stars is Chik
has a deal with the two sons. I don't know
the other and the other thing I was thinking about
with the redundancy, and I wonder if this is part
of it is when you ever go to a store,
there's always two for one deals, never three for one,
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but always two for one.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
That's true. And he doesn't like a good bogo.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yes, I mean, because you look like at my local
Lunson Byerley is they'll be at when you first walk in,
there's usually the Bogo it's buy one bag of chips,
get another one, which I think is important because as
you know, when you go and you put the car
is put the groceries in the back of your vehicle,
and you might have a couple of twelve packs of
die Do sitting right there stacked, and then one of
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those happens to fall over. One of the key trips
when you buy your Bogo chips is don't put them
both in the same bag, separate bags. When so when
the twelve pack falls onto one and crushes the one bag,
you got the other bag sitting right.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
There, why don't you just have the bag up in
the front passenger seat?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
There is that. I mean you could, you could, you
could work it that way, but the two for one
is a great redundancy.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, I think we're all a fan of that, well.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Some of us are, maybe, and that what's that That
kind of brings us then to the and it kind
of goes with the two kids and all that is
airplane rides. I know a number of people that when
they go on a family vacation, they will book flights
and have you know, half the family on one flight
and half the family on the other flight, just in case.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
That was actually the most beautiful part of my divorce, because.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
All right, then let's stalk, that's have.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
A little therapy. No, because I like, if this is
really sick. But if the whole family was traveling, then
we were on a plane together like one goes, we
all go. Problem solved. But if max husband and I
were traveling with all the kids, which honestly only happened
a couple of times, I insisted that we flew separate
so that if the plane went down, the children wouldn't
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be orphaned, got it. So I was that person. But
then but then I got divorced, and we're never on
an airplane together. Funny how that works. So it just
kind of problem solved.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
What would you now this will be? This would be
a tough one though, because if you had to split
up and with the kids, I mean, how do you
how do you work that? No? I would never do that, yeah,
because that's stuff because that was always the for for
one family. It was you know, the mom went on
the flight with a couple of kids, and dad went
on a flight with a couple of kids. Then I
was just which kids go with which. Then there was infighting, oh,
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because it's like, no, well I don't want to go.
I want to either die with dad or live with dad,
And so they had to.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I feel like this is a personal tale.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Actually it is not. We don't have that many people
in the family, gotcha. But anyway, so redundancy is very
important in everyday life. I mean, you think about everything
that you have in your world that you either have
redundance year maybe you should.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
We need to have more than one friend so that
when you have a really bad day at work, if
the first friend doesn't pick up, and your AI friend
your replicac throwback. That's a little clap back to last
week's pot No two.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Weeks ago podcast.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
And if you didn't get a chance to listen to
last week's podcast, shout out to Sean and his son Noah.
They did a fabulous job talking about Noah being overseas
for school and and and yeah, because it was more
than just school and v countries seventeen countries.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Well again we were counting Austria even though he just
zipped in and zipped out. We're counting it. And then
the other thing that we need just because you reminded
me the two weeks ago with Tako when we talked
about the AI companion. If you happen to have watched
the last Law and Order, I believe it is season
twenty five, episode twenty one. They took that from us,
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They ripped from the headlines or in this case, ripped
from our podcast listening.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
To Curveball production, and they developed that quickly.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yes, so they put it together with an AI companion storyline.
So we're ahead. Watch that Law and Order. We're fantas
there too.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I tell you everything with Ai we seem to be groundbreaking.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
That's how we roll. This has been another Curveball production.
Welcome to another Curveball production. We are alive and in
the normal studio studio.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
And it is a very chilly studio.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I can't even describe on our PG rated podcast how
chilly it is. Well, it's very chilly.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
The reason behind it is because it is been a
glorious couple of weeks here in Minnesota. The weather's been perfect,
but it's getting to get getting to warm up a
little bit, it is, and that with when you warms
up in my house anyway, we turn the.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Ac on we do at your host. At my house,
we want to turn the ac. Yes, but okay, true story.
Some ac crept out in me last fall, and I'm cheap,
so I'm like, well, we're gonna wait to get a
new one in the spring, thinking that may would be
a good time to do it, not knowing we are
going to be hitting like ninety degrees in May. Nonetheless,
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I may have taken the screens off the windows in
some of the rooms because they need to be washed,
and I thought there are no bugs this time of year,
so I opened up Lauren's bedroom window and I was
getting some cross ventilation. Going great idea. However, Comma, my
apple tree is in full bloom, and yesterday we had
gale force winds. If you will, and anyway, I happen
(01:28):
to walk into her bedroom, remember no screen on the window.
Her bedroom looks like a romantic novel. It is little
white flower petals all over her bed, all over the floor.
Quite the mess. Shot backworthy, well done. Lesson learned.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Lesson learned. Don't open the windows or put the screens
back on.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Put the screens back on. Don't be so lazy. Good
news is I do have the AC repair guy. Well
he's not there ac repair guy. It's the AC sales
guy right coming out tomorrow so that I can find
out what the damage and I will.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I will be there to help out, to make sure
that you know, you get a good deal, because I'm
good at that stuff. It's true, I'm really not.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I probably negotiated her, Yes you do.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I'm just like, he's a nice guy.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
You can't play the single mom card.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I can't oh the single mom card.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Which really upsets my nephew. My nephew is like, you
can't play the single mom card. I'm like, I sure can.
He's like, well you have Sean. I'm like, Sean and
I are technically legally single, right, correct? So I mean
when it comes to negotiating a deal in an appliance,
I very single.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And he looked at me and he's like, are you
going to put up with that? And go she's getting
a deal with that? Absolutely? Are you kidding me? Which
I had that card in the pocket.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Well you could be the single dad.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
It didn't work. Whatever, it doesn't work. Yeah, it doesn't work.
It's like, you know, I'm not even going to try that.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I don't know why we got so off topic. Oh,
we were talking about the weather and I have turned
it into the rene.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Well it happens, no, but we're talking about well, you're
a c N sprinkler systems getting fixed too, so it's
gonna be a big week.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
There was something else that's wrong at my house too.
Is umbrella, Oh yeah, which I afectionately called the pergola
because it looks like a bear attacked it.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It is very tattered, and that's getting replaced.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
That is coming on Wednesday. This is it's gonna be
a whole new house by the time the week's over.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
But unfortunately for you, you do not have a redundant air conditioner.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I do not, well, I don't I don't have a
redundant air conditioner, but I do have a pretty solid workaround,
which a redundant house, which is why we're here.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Right, got the redundant house, the air conditioner works here,
and the pool is about to be opened. That's true,
So we got all sorts of stuff going on.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Sean the toolman, Taylor was busy patching the pool this weekend.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
It was yesterday. I spent a Mother's Day after of course,
wish my mother happy Mother's Day. Pool work?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Right, is that when you called me because you unveiled
the pool, you said, oh, yeah, He's like, I pulled
the tart back and you wouldn't believe it. A giant hole,
a giant hole in the side of the pool. I'm
gonna have to fill it. And I thought to myself, oh,
and I'm like, I'm so sorry. This is awful. So
I said, well, send me a pick because it was
a busy weekend. We were doing a lot of hosting
(04:18):
of birthdays and Mother's Day and things like that. And
so he sends me the picture and I'm like, where's
the hole. It's at most the size of a volleyball,
and it's not even like very deep. It wasn't really
a hole.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
It was a hole.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
But then I thought to myself, he's a guy, it's
really big. Talk about exaggeration.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Wow, not true, But we had to go there. Okay,
explicit Mark and I making a note right now, that's
what we're going.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
To I'm talking about your idea of the size of
repair that needed to happen.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Copy that. That's what you're talking.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Wait a second, though, true story. Be honest, how many
times have you went to Home de Bow or the
pool store or Ace Hardware with all of this?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I did one trip to home Depot for all the
cement and a POxy stuff as well as a not
a trowel. A what's the thing called this? This cement?
I don't know what that is? Well, no, it's god.
It's got another name. I don't know what margin. Maybe
it's a margin trowel.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Perhaps we could get cult on the power and he
could teach us a little bit more about that.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Was that was the only That was the only trip
that I took. Really, it's not finishing, It's not okay.
I went to Ace Hardware to get a sprinkler head
or a faucet redundant fawcet head to stick with the
theme of our potential podcast that we might get to
actually and what else, And there was something else. I
(05:49):
went to, no, if that was a hardware store for
something else, So really it wasn't. It wasn't about it.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
I was just curious because you know, we have this
theory about it. It's not a real project unless you
go three times.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Well, it's not. To your point, it's not done. Water
is not in the pool yet.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
So you did hint to what the topic of our
podcast is going to be.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Renee was talking with a physician the other day and
he brought up just I'm not sure how it came up,
but just brought the thought of the amazing human body
and the redundancy that we have.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, I mean, it really is pretty cool. And I
think we all think about I mean not daily, but
a lot of us know somebody who has either needed
a kidney or got a new kidney or something along
those lines, right, and you think, oh, yeah, you can
a lot. I think it's somewhat general knowledge that people
can live with one kidney. So I right away started
(06:44):
thinking about that. And he said, you know, the body,
whether you believe in creationism or evolution, or whatever your
thoughts are on. It was beautifully designed with all of
this redundancy, he said, think about it. So he's like,
you've got two lungs you can live with, you know,
only one long and he starts going down. Well, now
he's talking and we're back to the batter at hand.
(07:05):
I'm like, squirrel, I'm off listing in my head all
of the redundancies I can think of, and it's harder
to think of something that I mean, it's it's easier
to think of something that isn't redundant and finish your list.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And as we're so, we thought to ourselves again it
goes two arms, two legs, two eyeballs, and the.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Two ears for listening.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
You should try to remember use both. Some don't use either.
And what we then then he brought up, okay, I
know what you're thinking. You're thinking, only one heart, one brain,
one liver. How does that work? So the body isn't
all that redundant.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
One knows, but dual nostrils and sinus cavities.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
That is correct.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Well, the thing that we found with the brain is
although there isn't a separate brain, there is something called
the circle of willis which is like the rerouting of
pathways in your brain so that it can't totally be stopped.
Blood flow can continue. It just finds different ways. Similarly,
with the heart, you only have one heart, but you
(08:08):
have two chambers, and you can technically live with one
chamber or one functioning chamber of your heart. So I
was like, this is crazy. I mean, do I have
two stomachs? Never I just thought of this.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
We never discussed this. But you only have one mouth,
which is why you only have one stomach. Oh, fair enough,
See that's that's how that works. But do you think
about it?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
But think about that if you okay, because this is
all about survival, right, how else would you get food
and nutrition if you didn't have a mouth. I guess
you could go through your situs cavity like you know,
but I mean really like, you have to be able
to eat good. You have to be able to drink
the water the doctor and let him know he forgot.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
One, forgot one because you're in trouble if you don't
have the mouth.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I would think, So that's supposed to be better off
about a month.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I wasn't going to go there, but yeah, so we
started thinking about just you know, the body is very,
very redundant and in what it has to do. And
as it was pointed out to us that it's you
think of it more as the redundancy just being essential
to living. You have to have that redundancy to be
(09:18):
able to work, to get through life.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Well, the funny part is, if you look up the
definition of redundancy or redundant, it would be something that
is unnecessary. But what we found in this preparation, if
you will, is that, yeah, it really is oftentimes a
bit of a need. It's an essential form of survival
or just our daily function. We started making lists of
(09:42):
all the other things in our lives that we have
redundancy and that are pretty pretty important we have.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I mean, if you go, like in a business world,
there's redundancy all over the place. Obviously you got your generators,
and in the internet world you got redundant ISPs. Those
are okay things to have.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
They're not very exciting, but they are important.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
They are.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
You know, there's a lot of people have multiple bank accounts,
you know, because what if one of your banks get seized.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Right right, then you got that one in the Caymans,
right exactly, So because you got to.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Have that, or even things like on your car, right,
I mean, think about it. My old car, I operated
with one headlight for eight months. Right, If I didn't
have that one extra headlight, I would have been in
pretty big well I should have been in trouble anyway,
but I probably would have killed someone or myself.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I have two propane tanks because you'd never know, because
what's worse than you're grilling and all of a sudden
you run out of propane and you're stuck there with
a half grilled steak. Not good. Well, unless somebody likes
it rare, we you're okay.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Or you could even make the argument that if you
ran out of propane, you have an oven. But here's
another good example. Alarms. How many alarms do I have
in my phone? I can't even just say I have
two I have. Tanner was laughing so hard on me
the other day. He's like, what are all these alarms for?
And like it keeps me moving in the right direction?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Correct, and it's it's like, oh yeah, one alarm is
to remind you that you forgot the other alarm pretty much,
and the way you go. I mean a lot of
people when you think about it, a lot of people
have two kids. I mean redundancy definitely.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Okay, but that's the thing. One of them isn't unnecessary,
very essential.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
They're essential there is. They're essential to have for multiple
reasons to have two kids.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I would say that for sure, we need to have
redundant gardens or crops. I mean, if you think about
that industry, farmers don't plant one tomato plant or even
in your own garden. I mean, there's a an acceptance
of a failure to some degree, right, So you know
that you have to have redundancy in farming and with
(11:50):
your gardening.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
You just got for your birthday redundant potted plants. I
did because.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Everybody knows it, and it was it was the best part.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
About it is you got one that works in the
sun and one that works in the shade. So you know,
that's total redundancy as you go back. So that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
What about my rubber scrapers, A lot of rubber scrapers.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
We were we were baking one day, and.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
She's always baked together.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
She's she's going through the rubber scrapers and my job,
my job when she bakes her cooks is to load
the dishwasher, and all of a sudden she's got the
I'm looking and there's like rubber scrapers all over the place,
and she's because she can't like use one and rinse
it off and then use another one when there's a perfect,
good clean one in the drawer, just grab it and
use that one.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I think, I think I have eight rubber scrapers.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yes, and and.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
But the day all but like two were used.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Did they have to all be to all?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
But to be well, you have to worry about cross contamination, Sean, not.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Really, you're baking a cake. I mean it's going to.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Be it's not their allergies. You have to be careful.
You can never be too careful, which brings me to
other redundancies seat belts and air bags. There's some safety
redundancies that we need in our lives.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Some gentlemen have to wear suspenders and belts because you
just never know which one's gonna blow.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Desserts, I mean, if one of them is bad, you
need to have an option for another dessert.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Those are I think, what do we I think we
had three desserts the other day, just to just to
have three.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Oh Saturday at the parties Yeah. We had Princess tort
strawberry short cake, and a lemon thing.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
It's a lemon thing. Yes, three desserts. That was awesome.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I just learned that my family likes to eat, yes,
and he doesn't. It's funny. We were just talking when
you weren't there yesterday. It was like, yeah, Sean doesn't
care much for sweets, and I'm like, well, Sean says
he doesn't care for sweets because he doesn't actively seek treats.
But if they're in front of them, then it's like
(13:59):
when in row and you get mocked.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
If you don't, I get mocked. That's the number one thing.
If I don't have a dessert, I'm lost. You have
to have dessert.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I come to a food pushers and people who live
in great fear that they will have an event and
not have enough food for the people that are there.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
It's yet, I've yet to be at one of the
events at your mom's house where there has been not
enough food.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
It's never going to happen, which is, mind you. My
mom is eighty two pounds, so it's not like it's
not like she's the problem.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Which is for a leftover guy like myself. Right, I'm
a big fan, true, although a little bitter because you
did make a brunch for your mom and dad Sunday,
which was Mother's Day, and you made a scrumptious breakfast
egg bake thing.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
It was this braided thing. It actually looked pretty good.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yes, that all right.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
But my dad liked it so much. Yes, he was like, oh,
I'm going to have that tomorrow's open.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
That doesn't that doesn't work that way.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I owe you. I owe you that particular. I mean,
aren't you tired of egg beaks? This has just happened
to be a new one.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
No, I'm not tired of eg baks. It's got egg
and it's got meat and it's got cheese.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Speaking of breakfast, you know something else. We have redne
and see with coffee pods, so we both have curic machines.
And I don't plan as well as Sean. I think
everybody has probably picked that up in the podcast by now.
So I have a little jar and then a drawer
where I keep emergency coffee pods so that I don't
ever run out. And I have to have two, yes
(15:28):
to have two, because you're usually there and I don't
want to be that it happened once.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Remember, Yeah, it was bad.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
We actually I can't believe we made it through that day.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Well, I think I ran out to Starbucks and got
coffee because he is an expensive mistake. Well, it's quite
all right, it was. We had a nice time with that,
I think because now it's now it's so nice that
it's coffee on the deck in the morning. Yeah, which
is always a nice time, just to get relaxed. Suns
starting to come up. No redundancy on the Sun.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Though, there's just ones. Well for us anyway, Yeah, that's
true for other galaxies probably.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Oh yeah, there's other galaxies that have two sons. If
there's a if I can't remember the Star Wars or
Star Trek or Star one of the stars is Chik
has a deal with the two sons. I don't know
the other and the other thing I was thinking about
with the redundancy, and I wonder if this is part
of it is when you ever go to a store,
there's always two for one deals, never three for one,
(16:27):
but always two for one.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
That's true. And he doesn't like a good bogo.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yes, I mean, because you look like at my local
Lunson Byerley is they'll be at when you first walk in,
there's usually the Bogo it's buy one bag of chips,
get another one, which I think is important because as
you know, when you go and you put the car
is put the groceries in the back of your vehicle,
and you might have a couple of twelve packs of
die Do sitting right there stacked, and then one of
(16:52):
those happens to fall over. One of the key trips
when you buy your Bogo chips is don't put them
both in the same bag, separate bags. When so when
the twelve pack falls onto one and crushes the one bag,
you got the other bag sitting right.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
There, why don't you just have the bag up in
the front passenger seat?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
There is that. I mean you could, you could, you
could work it that way, but the two for one
is a great redundancy.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah, I think we're all a fan of that, well.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Some of us are, maybe, and that what's that That
kind of brings us then to the and it kind
of goes with the two kids and all that is
airplane rides. I know a number of people that when
they go on a family vacation, they will book flights
and have you know, half the family on one flight
and half the family on the other flight, just in case.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
That was actually the most beautiful part of my divorce, because.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
All right, then let's stalk, that's have.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
A little therapy. No, because I like, if this is
really sick. But if the whole family was traveling, then
we were on a plane together like one goes, we
all go. Problem solved. But if max husband and I
were traveling with all the kids, which honestly only happened
a couple of times, I insisted that we flew separate
so that if the plane went down, the children wouldn't
(18:14):
be orphaned, got it. So I was that person. But
then but then I got divorced, and we're never on
an airplane together. Funny how that works. So it just
kind of problem solved.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
What would you now this will be? This would be
a tough one though, because if you had to split
up and with the kids, I mean, how do you
how do you work that? No? I would never do that, yeah,
because that's stuff because that was always the for for
one family. It was you know, the mom went on
the flight with a couple of kids, and dad went
on a flight with a couple of kids. Then I
was just which kids go with which. Then there was infighting, oh,
(18:47):
because it's like, no, well I don't want to go.
I want to either die with dad or live with dad,
And so they had to.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I feel like this is a personal tale.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Actually it is not. We don't have that many people
in the family, gotcha. But anyway, so redundancy is very
important in everyday life. I mean, you think about everything
that you have in your world that you either have
redundance year maybe you should.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
We need to have more than one friend so that
when you have a really bad day at work, if
the first friend doesn't pick up, and your AI friend
your replicac throwback. That's a little clap back to last
week's pot No two.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Weeks ago podcast.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
And if you didn't get a chance to listen to
last week's podcast, shout out to Sean and his son Noah.
They did a fabulous job talking about Noah being overseas
for school and and and yeah, because it was more
than just school and v countries seventeen countries.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Well again we were counting Austria even though he just
zipped in and zipped out. We're counting it. And then
the other thing that we need just because you reminded
me the two weeks ago with Tako when we talked
about the AI companion. If you happen to have watched
the last Law and Order, I believe it is season
twenty five, episode twenty one. They took that from us,
(20:08):
They ripped from the headlines or in this case, ripped
from our podcast listening.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
To Curveball production, and they developed that quickly.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yes, so they put it together with an AI companion storyline.
So we're ahead. Watch that Law and Order. We're fantas
there too.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I tell you everything with Ai we seem to be groundbreaking.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
That's how we roll. This has been another Curveball production.
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