September 24, 2025 • 20 mins
In the tranquility aboard a pontoon in the middle of the lake, René and Shawn discuss storms, running into deer and the creation of her Rock the Presses event.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Welcome to another Curveball production.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
And good morning, Good morning everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
You may not be listening to this in the morning,
but it is bright and early and we are on
the boat recording this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
It is. We decided last night, when we were out
doing a quick little tour of the lake, we said,
you know what, if it's nice, let's put the boat
back on the lake and do our podcast from there
where we can be just sitting out here. And I
like how Renee said, let's go out and to the
other side and we can turn around. That way, we
won't be staring right in the sun.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm not staring here.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
There is one of us who is not staring into
the sun. But that's I don't think any of you
are listening really care. You're like, oh no, they're on
a boat.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Here's the delio. We dropped anchor in spite of the
fact that Sean said, no is nary a wave out
in our bay this morning. But I get a nice
view of our cabin, which I don't get to see
very often because I'm rarely looking back at the shoreline
right And I just decided I like the spinny effect
that happens when you drop anchor, so at some point
(01:15):
I will be staring into the fireball.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
So now that we understand how boats on anchors work,
we can now talk about what we're going to talk
about today, which is we really don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
No, that's not true. I'm delirious, and everyone who knows
me knows that I should stop talking about the event
that we just did at my work. And it is
my responsibility and I'm sort of proud of it, but
it damn near kills me. And I want to give
a shout out to if you're in the Minneapolis Saint
Paul area, Shout out to the Belfast Cowboys, a nine
(01:49):
piece horn band that is phenomenal. The talented musicians are
insanely good. They're kind of a Van Morrison cover band, right,
play other stuff. I had to miss them, Yeah, I know,
well because Sean's absolute favorite song ever is Moondance, Right,
that is correct, and so that was fun. Shout out
to the food trucks that we had, the heavy Metal
(02:10):
Grill with their delightful tacos and pork sandwich, the Yummy
Tummy food truck and tater top for our gluten free friends.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Okay, that's really the reason I'm sad it wasn't there.
Those food trucks sounded phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
It's so much fun. We make it so kitchy. You
get a lanyard with your backstage pass and you get
a tour of the company already. I have a list,
an absolute page long list of things I need to
do different next time. But pro tip for uvent planners
out there. One little trick that I did this year
because we had so many people coming. I think we
had about two hundred and almost two hundred and fifty
(02:50):
clients coming, and we have eight reps, sales reps, if
you will, so I color coded the lightning bolt on
their backstage patch passes so that at a distance they
could identify who their clients were, even the people that
they had never met in person.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
And that was brilliant. Except for us color challenged.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Folk, That's true, it was not very inclusive. As a
matter of fact, I've brought one of my notes of
feedback is the red and the orange were too similar,
and people were struggling to tell the difference between the
orange people and the red people. But you know, live
and learn. It's people called your folk just fine. They did.
I absolutely made my color aqua, and it made it
(03:32):
quite nice because it was dissimilar to anything else available. Anyway,
enough about rock the presses. It's an every three year
occurrence and it's a really good time.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
And she doesn't give herself enough kudos, but she did
just rock the whole thing and she It was a
very difficult, strenuous few weeks, especially with the move of
the kid in the involved with it, and it came
up quicker than it always does.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
It always does because as we look around, because we're
a print marketing company and we're like, we are our
worst customers. You know, everything is coming in last minute,
super hot. I keep having ideas that we keep throwing
at the wall and it should really be easy at
this point, but it just isn't. And apologies to my
team and full full thanks to everybody who had each
(04:23):
other's back and made it come to life. And we
didn't have any to my knowledge, we didn't have any
terrible events occur.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
It it sounded like it wasn't fine again. I was
not able to be there. I have to ad to
work all week.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
In New Orleans. Yeah for you?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah? Well oh did you did you eat well? Did
you go do this? Did you see some jazz. I
saw the inside of a hotel room. The ballroom was phenomenal,
and everything worked out just fine.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
The best part was I was so out of touch
and truly, like very almost unresponsive while you were gone
because I was so hyper focused on the event. He
sent me a picture of a paddle boat and he
said it was off, something about awfully chili or something,
and I was like, the only response he got for me,
(05:09):
I think all day was Oh, fine, make me jealous.
I'm working my butt off and you're on a boat
cruise and he's like, I was referring to the boat
cruise you and I went on when we were in
New Orleans. Last time I.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Thought I was being nice. I saw our boat. I
took a picture of it. Yes, No longer was I
texting during that time.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Hey, I do want to bring up something though, that
I think is going to kind of consume this podcast.
We've been meaning to talk about weather, but not in
the way that we typically moaning grown about weather.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
No, and we know we love fall, that's true.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Everybody knows we love fall. But when Tanner and I
were on our road trip, I know you're sick of
hearing about that. But here's the deal. As we came
into Phoenix, the highway signs started saying slow down, high
winds ahead. And I was so confused because it was
sunny out.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
It was a phenomenal day, and we just talked about
road signs and how they weren't supposed to be funny.
And now you're thinking yourself, okay, is there joke in
there right right?
Speaker 1 (06:09):
And all of a sudden, Tanner looks up and goes,
oh no, oh no, And I said what and he said,
look up ahead, huge sandstorm. And I'm like, oh, my goodness. Now, Thankfully,
because of our events at Zion National Park, we pulled
into town at just the right moment.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Well done.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
And we pulled into our hotel with about five minutes
to spare. But the winds were already raging and dust
was everywhere thick, and it becomes night. That's your viewpoint,
but worse than night. You can't see your hand in
front of your face. There is so much dust. The
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sun is completely gone, and then the rain comes in
after it. Typically, which this whole event most people would
know as a' monsoon. I think throughout the world, or
at least most of the country, it's like, oh, yeah,
we've heard of monsoons, right, But the real term is
a haboob. And the first time I heard the term ubb,
(07:14):
I thought my kid, my college kid, was playing a
prank on me and wanted me to go around calling
it a haboob. But here's the thing. Tanner said, we
have to get to the hotel otherwise we're going to
be stuck. And I said, what do you mean and
he said, I said, we'll just pull over. He said, yeah,
you have to turn your car off and put your
phone down. And I said, well, okay, but I mean,
(07:36):
what do you mean? He said, you have to turn
all your lights off and sit in the dark. And
to me, as a Northerner from Minnesota, whenever there's bad weather,
I turn my hazards on because I want people to
see me and know that when it gets stormy, I
drive like a grandma. And you should know that you're
going to come up on me hot and I'm going
to be going too slow.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
And blinking lights typically mean okay, slow down, there's something.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Up there right right, And he said, no, Mom, I
swear you have to turn your lights off. Well, we
didn't end up having to pull over. But as soon
as we got into the hotel, we of course turned
on the TV that was greeting me as an IgG priority.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Remember she was in her favorite IHG hotels that is
to be renamed named. We're not gonna tell you where.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
It's at, No, but it's actually in Glendale, right across
from State Farm Stadium. Anyway, that's kind of weird, but anyway, Yeah,
so we turn on the news and sure enough, the
kids not crazy. They went over protocol for what to
do if you're in your car during a haboob and
you do pull as far off the road as you
(08:43):
possibly can, turn all your lights off, and the goal
is to be invisible, which is so contrary to what
we would do up north. I would pull over and
put my hazards on. But I guess the deal is
you turn all of your lights off and put your
phone down. You don't want any when to find you
because if someone's driving, it is so very dark that
(09:05):
if they see the tiniest gleam of light, people follow
it like a beacon and they will slam into you
because they think you know where you're going.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
How weird is I mean? It's just like like as
I was putting up for the podcast like a bunch
of lemmings, just like, ooh, we're pretty light, let's go
to the light. I mean, we don't they understand that
that Okay, there's a light, but that just means that
there might be a person there that no.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Apparently light means safety, or maybe maybe that's the light
at the end of the tunnel, if you will. And
so people will follow the light and you will probably
get into a horrible wreck because somebody trying to find
their way through the boob will find you and slam
into you in your car. So you're supposed to stay
in your car, stay dark until the storm passes, and
(09:51):
it can last. This one took about twenty minutes to
pass through, and then the rains followed, which actually I
guess helped because it got rid of some of the
dust because typically there's like an inch of us. This
particular haboob was the tallest, didn't I tell you? It
was two miles.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Into the sky.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
So this dust cloud was two miles high into the
atmosphere and it was quite huge. But the dust and
stuff got washed away by the torrential rains and then
I mean it just poored. Okay, I feel bad if
anybody was, you know, inconvenienced by the haboob. But it
was wicked cool to be a part of, you know.
I mean it's kind of like I suppose if you
(10:30):
live in Florida your whole life and you finally see
a snowstorm, which got us thinking, have we been doing
the snowstorm thing the wrong way?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Because yeah, so of course, because we're intrepid reporters on
the Current Ball podcast, I said, well, okay, you know,
you learn from an early age in the northern worlds,
the northern climes that what we're calling now, Yeah, because
I would, after you hear a little bit about this,
(10:57):
we are, I think a bit more sophisticated. We go
about our business as you're driving around in the wintertime
up here in the north. You learn when you're you know,
fifteen sixteen, because we start driving early, right, you know,
when when it's snowing out or you're in a blizzard.
Here are the things that you do. And so I
(11:20):
wanted to go, okay, is just another one of those
things where you get told something when you're a kid,
and it's not quite true, but it's what you're told,
and so you believe it, so I of course went
to chat GPT, who is totally believable and all things,
and I said, okay, what to do when you're driving
in a blizzard, Well, the first thing it tells you
(11:41):
to do is don't right it, stay home again, because we're.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Willing to bet down in the southern in Phoenix, they
probably tell you to stay home.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
You I did not look up what to do while
driving in a boob to see if that would be
the first thing.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
You're just afraid to type the word bob because you're
afraid the algorithms to put naughty things on your phone.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Will it so the so so so. Further on, it said,
you know, drive slowly, headlights on low, beams, windshield wipers
on low, be careful, steer into the skid if your
(12:22):
car starts. It's just all the thing.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I do remember that. The light thing though, it was
always like use your low beams because if you've ever
put your high beams on on a snowstorm, you feel
like you're in Star Wars going through the galaxy.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
It's very high beams will illuminate the wall of snow
in front of you versus the ground in front of you.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
It has something to do with the reflective nature of
the snow, I believe as well.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
And now and I can I can understand during a
boob when that they would like you to turn your
car off, because I don't imagine they want a whole
bunch of sand coming through your engine.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Well, that was what Tanner said, safety be damned. His
point was, mom, this stuff like, you don't want to
breathe in all this dust. As a matter of fact,
there is a condition that comes from these haboobs called
valley fever. If you live down in these desert areas
and you inhale too much of the dust spores, you
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can get quite quite sick and end up in the hospital.
And I will tell you that for a few days
after the haboob, I mean we were in Oh, I'm
having trouble finding my words today, we were I felt
very yucky in my lungs, like just a little bit
that I was out breathing in because it's not like
you can hold your breath. And you did see people
(13:39):
like with masks on, and I mean I pulled my
shirt up over my nose and mouth a little bit
to try. But oh, my goodness, in your eyes, everything,
it's just you can't get away from it. Not healthy
for anyone. Whereas if you inhale a bunch of snow
in therapy, it's going to melt well.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And again when you're in a blizzard, it does tell
you also do not leave your automobile because if it's
a blizzard, it's probably cold and you will end There
is the danger of just getting lost as you walk
away and all of a sudden you can't see anything. Sure,
but I thought it was. And again I my intrepid
(14:17):
reporting did not have me type in what to do
while driving in a hiboob to see if it brought
up some of the same things. But when for the blizzard,
it was very, very factual. This is what you do,
and shout out to mom and dad very much what
you've told us to do ever since we're fourteen fifty.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Absolutely, especially that part about hey, idiot, if there's a
blizzard coming, stay stay home.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Stay home. No still go out. It's a simple deal.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
It's kind of like every time my kids leave the house,
I always say, watch for deer. One would think that
we live in a pasture of deer, but anytime it's
morning or evening, I'm like, watch for deer. Watch for deer,
even in the city which there our deer. But why
do we These warnings don't always prove fruitful. However, last night,
(15:06):
after our little boat tour, we went for a walk
and we saw plenty of deer on the road.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
We did see plenty of deer crossing the road, one
of a pack of herd heard we heard. We're not
sure about that one.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
We could go back to the podcast about groups of animals.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
If you feel free to go back and check a
fact check me on on what a group of deer
would be. That was would have been probably about a
year and a half ago, perhaps.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
One of my fingers. We did that up here. We
did it from the dock of the bay.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
So it would have been during the summertime anyway, the
so yeah, we did, and there was a vehicle that
came right after it, And then we started thinking to ourselves, well,
what would we do if that vehicle had been a
little earlier and ran smack right into that heard a deer.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
That would have been yucky. I probably would have cried
because well, I mean, I guess for whatever reason, hopefully
the people in the car would be okay. But I
don't want to see a bunch of deer gets slaughtered
like that.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
And here's and here. The interesting thing for those of
you who aren't familiar with driving around whether there are
plenty of deer, is that as you're driving along on
the road, and if you're going anything over forty five
point fifty, if a deer decides to cross the road,
there isn't much you can do.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
You No, they say, the absolute worst thing you can
do is slam on your brakes, because your car is
likely to lose control or you will lose control of your.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Combination the combination of that, and when you slam on
your brakes, the hood of the car goes down, which
gives the inactual slope for the deer. If you were
to hit the deer, the slope of the car goes
down to the deer would then come up the hood
into the windshield.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Is that true?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
That is true?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I heard yet.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
So that's why that's one of the reasons why you
would not want to The second reason is that, believe
it or not, the deer, much like a squirrel or
anything else, senses the speed that the vehicle is going
and as best it can for that. Now, deer occasionally
aren't as fast as they think they are.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Sure, based on the number of carcasses on the side
of the road, I would say their depth perception and
ability to discern the safety of their crossing is a
little bit challenged from time to time.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
But the point is that even if you do see
a deer and the deer crosses the road in front
of you, there's not a lot you can really do.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You can't swear you can. You can be mindful and
watch ahead of you and have everyone in your car
with their eyes peeled and be like, help me watch
for deer. My eyes are really bad at night. Help
me watch for deer. And you know, there's a witching hour,
that's what my mother calls it, so you know right
around you know, if.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
It's if it's dusk and you can there's enough lights,
you can see far enough ahead, then that would Yes,
that does sometimes help out, especially they're standing in the
middle of the road. If it's night, you can really
see as far as your headlights really, so I mean
you can't really see that and see what's coming up
ahead of you, but it does, especially if it's night
and you up here and you've been driving for a
while and you're tired. It does kind of perk you
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up a little bit. Get something to do.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
It gets like an I spy game, gets your senses
on high alert.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yep, you can, so you can watch for them. So
for those of you who have I have personally knock
on wood, have not hit a deer for wow, very close.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Wow, you just said that. Why did you put that
into the universe.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I put it into the podcast. Well, because you never
let me drive, so don't have to worry about it.
So I got that.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I let you drive the other day. Oh yeah, I
was so tired.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yes, she has. She has to be like dead to
the world.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Well, you liked it when we when we go on dates,
you drive usually I just don't. It's a long distance drive.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
If we're going to the movie theater about two blocks
down the road here, honey, you have control.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Okay, six and a half years and we went to
three movies, two of which had my children along. I
hardly would call that a date. But anyway, well that's
as far as we're gonna this podcast. Podcast will continue
after we turned off the mics.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
So so basicly so basically our dates are I go
to Target to get food for dinner, so I get
to drive at that point. It's awesome.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
That's very true. There was one thing I was going
to mention because I think we've pretty much beat a
dead deer in this podcast. But the dog does the
same thing. When a dog comes running at you full
speed and you think you're going to outsmart the dog
and step out of its way, the dog is aware
of how fast you are going, which direction you are going.
And I always tell people if clover comes running at
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them full speed and excitement, do not do not zig
because she's already planning on zigging. And if you both zig,
Chaos and Susan were painful on your knees and your shins.
I'm telling you from personal experience. Just assume the dog
sees you and is not going to run into you. Now,
from time to time she misjudges her size and grazes,
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you know, the back of your knee, which also not pleasant.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Agreed. While we're going to wrap this one up to
let everybody know that we are currently the only boat
out on the water. There was a fissure.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
There is a boat right there?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Oh is there where?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Right there? Oh we moved sorry, well I couldn't see
it because I've been.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Blinded by the sun is bs out here. There's actually
there's a boat right there, a guy's fishing, and another
a red boat right there where.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Anyway, it doesn't matter. I think we're the only boat
as far as I can tell, from what I can
see steering into the sun. We're the only boat that's fair.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
You are staring into the sun. This has been another
Curveball production
Welcome to another Curveball production.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
And good morning, Good morning everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
You may not be listening to this in the morning,
but it is bright and early and we are on
the boat recording this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
It is. We decided last night, when we were out
doing a quick little tour of the lake, we said,
you know what, if it's nice, let's put the boat
back on the lake and do our podcast from there
where we can be just sitting out here. And I
like how Renee said, let's go out and to the
other side and we can turn around. That way, we
won't be staring right in the sun.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm not staring here.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
There is one of us who is not staring into
the sun. But that's I don't think any of you
are listening really care. You're like, oh no, they're on
a boat.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Here's the delio. We dropped anchor in spite of the
fact that Sean said, no is nary a wave out
in our bay this morning. But I get a nice
view of our cabin, which I don't get to see
very often because I'm rarely looking back at the shoreline
right And I just decided I like the spinny effect
that happens when you drop anchor, so at some point
(01:15):
I will be staring into the fireball.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
So now that we understand how boats on anchors work,
we can now talk about what we're going to talk
about today, which is we really don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
No, that's not true. I'm delirious, and everyone who knows
me knows that I should stop talking about the event
that we just did at my work. And it is
my responsibility and I'm sort of proud of it, but
it damn near kills me. And I want to give
a shout out to if you're in the Minneapolis Saint
Paul area, Shout out to the Belfast Cowboys, a nine
(01:49):
piece horn band that is phenomenal. The talented musicians are
insanely good. They're kind of a Van Morrison cover band, right,
play other stuff. I had to miss them, Yeah, I know,
well because Sean's absolute favorite song ever is Moondance, Right,
that is correct, and so that was fun. Shout out
to the food trucks that we had, the heavy Metal
(02:10):
Grill with their delightful tacos and pork sandwich, the Yummy
Tummy food truck and tater top for our gluten free friends.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Okay, that's really the reason I'm sad it wasn't there.
Those food trucks sounded phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
It's so much fun. We make it so kitchy. You
get a lanyard with your backstage pass and you get
a tour of the company already. I have a list,
an absolute page long list of things I need to
do different next time. But pro tip for uvent planners
out there. One little trick that I did this year
because we had so many people coming. I think we
had about two hundred and almost two hundred and fifty
(02:50):
clients coming, and we have eight reps, sales reps, if
you will, so I color coded the lightning bolt on
their backstage patch passes so that at a distance they
could identify who their clients were, even the people that
they had never met in person.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
And that was brilliant. Except for us color challenged.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Folk, That's true, it was not very inclusive. As a
matter of fact, I've brought one of my notes of
feedback is the red and the orange were too similar,
and people were struggling to tell the difference between the
orange people and the red people. But you know, live
and learn. It's people called your folk just fine. They did.
I absolutely made my color aqua, and it made it
(03:32):
quite nice because it was dissimilar to anything else available. Anyway,
enough about rock the presses. It's an every three year
occurrence and it's a really good time.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
And she doesn't give herself enough kudos, but she did
just rock the whole thing and she It was a
very difficult, strenuous few weeks, especially with the move of
the kid in the involved with it, and it came
up quicker than it always does.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
It always does because as we look around, because we're
a print marketing company and we're like, we are our
worst customers. You know, everything is coming in last minute,
super hot. I keep having ideas that we keep throwing
at the wall and it should really be easy at
this point, but it just isn't. And apologies to my
team and full full thanks to everybody who had each
(04:23):
other's back and made it come to life. And we
didn't have any to my knowledge, we didn't have any
terrible events occur.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
It it sounded like it wasn't fine again. I was
not able to be there. I have to ad to
work all week.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
In New Orleans. Yeah for you?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah? Well oh did you did you eat well? Did
you go do this? Did you see some jazz. I
saw the inside of a hotel room. The ballroom was phenomenal,
and everything worked out just fine.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
The best part was I was so out of touch
and truly, like very almost unresponsive while you were gone
because I was so hyper focused on the event. He
sent me a picture of a paddle boat and he
said it was off, something about awfully chili or something,
and I was like, the only response he got for me,
(05:09):
I think all day was Oh, fine, make me jealous.
I'm working my butt off and you're on a boat
cruise and he's like, I was referring to the boat
cruise you and I went on when we were in
New Orleans. Last time I.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Thought I was being nice. I saw our boat. I
took a picture of it. Yes, No longer was I
texting during that time.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Hey, I do want to bring up something though, that
I think is going to kind of consume this podcast.
We've been meaning to talk about weather, but not in
the way that we typically moaning grown about weather.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
No, and we know we love fall, that's true.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Everybody knows we love fall. But when Tanner and I
were on our road trip, I know you're sick of
hearing about that. But here's the deal. As we came
into Phoenix, the highway signs started saying slow down, high
winds ahead. And I was so confused because it was
sunny out.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
It was a phenomenal day, and we just talked about
road signs and how they weren't supposed to be funny.
And now you're thinking yourself, okay, is there joke in
there right right?
Speaker 1 (06:09):
And all of a sudden, Tanner looks up and goes,
oh no, oh no, And I said what and he said,
look up ahead, huge sandstorm. And I'm like, oh, my goodness. Now, Thankfully,
because of our events at Zion National Park, we pulled
into town at just the right moment.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Well done.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
And we pulled into our hotel with about five minutes
to spare. But the winds were already raging and dust
was everywhere thick, and it becomes night. That's your viewpoint,
but worse than night. You can't see your hand in
front of your face. There is so much dust. The
(06:53):
sun is completely gone, and then the rain comes in
after it. Typically, which this whole event most people would
know as a' monsoon. I think throughout the world, or
at least most of the country, it's like, oh, yeah,
we've heard of monsoons, right, But the real term is
a haboob. And the first time I heard the term ubb,
(07:14):
I thought my kid, my college kid, was playing a
prank on me and wanted me to go around calling
it a haboob. But here's the thing. Tanner said, we
have to get to the hotel otherwise we're going to
be stuck. And I said, what do you mean and
he said, I said, we'll just pull over. He said, yeah,
you have to turn your car off and put your
phone down. And I said, well, okay, but I mean,
(07:36):
what do you mean? He said, you have to turn
all your lights off and sit in the dark. And
to me, as a Northerner from Minnesota, whenever there's bad weather,
I turn my hazards on because I want people to
see me and know that when it gets stormy, I
drive like a grandma. And you should know that you're
going to come up on me hot and I'm going
to be going too slow.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
And blinking lights typically mean okay, slow down, there's something.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Up there right right, And he said, no, Mom, I
swear you have to turn your lights off. Well, we
didn't end up having to pull over. But as soon
as we got into the hotel, we of course turned
on the TV that was greeting me as an IgG priority.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Remember she was in her favorite IHG hotels that is
to be renamed named. We're not gonna tell you where.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
It's at, No, but it's actually in Glendale, right across
from State Farm Stadium. Anyway, that's kind of weird, but anyway, Yeah,
so we turn on the news and sure enough, the
kids not crazy. They went over protocol for what to
do if you're in your car during a haboob and
you do pull as far off the road as you
(08:43):
possibly can, turn all your lights off, and the goal
is to be invisible, which is so contrary to what
we would do up north. I would pull over and
put my hazards on. But I guess the deal is
you turn all of your lights off and put your
phone down. You don't want any when to find you
because if someone's driving, it is so very dark that
(09:05):
if they see the tiniest gleam of light, people follow
it like a beacon and they will slam into you
because they think you know where you're going.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
How weird is I mean? It's just like like as
I was putting up for the podcast like a bunch
of lemmings, just like, ooh, we're pretty light, let's go
to the light. I mean, we don't they understand that
that Okay, there's a light, but that just means that
there might be a person there that no.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Apparently light means safety, or maybe maybe that's the light
at the end of the tunnel, if you will. And
so people will follow the light and you will probably
get into a horrible wreck because somebody trying to find
their way through the boob will find you and slam
into you in your car. So you're supposed to stay
in your car, stay dark until the storm passes, and
(09:51):
it can last. This one took about twenty minutes to
pass through, and then the rains followed, which actually I
guess helped because it got rid of some of the
dust because typically there's like an inch of us. This
particular haboob was the tallest, didn't I tell you? It
was two miles.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Into the sky.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
So this dust cloud was two miles high into the
atmosphere and it was quite huge. But the dust and
stuff got washed away by the torrential rains and then
I mean it just poored. Okay, I feel bad if
anybody was, you know, inconvenienced by the haboob. But it
was wicked cool to be a part of, you know.
I mean it's kind of like I suppose if you
(10:30):
live in Florida your whole life and you finally see
a snowstorm, which got us thinking, have we been doing
the snowstorm thing the wrong way?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Because yeah, so of course, because we're intrepid reporters on
the Current Ball podcast, I said, well, okay, you know,
you learn from an early age in the northern worlds,
the northern climes that what we're calling now, Yeah, because
I would, after you hear a little bit about this,
(10:57):
we are, I think a bit more sophisticated. We go
about our business as you're driving around in the wintertime
up here in the north. You learn when you're you know,
fifteen sixteen, because we start driving early, right, you know,
when when it's snowing out or you're in a blizzard.
Here are the things that you do. And so I
(11:20):
wanted to go, okay, is just another one of those
things where you get told something when you're a kid,
and it's not quite true, but it's what you're told,
and so you believe it, so I of course went
to chat GPT, who is totally believable and all things,
and I said, okay, what to do when you're driving
in a blizzard, Well, the first thing it tells you
(11:41):
to do is don't right it, stay home again, because we're.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Willing to bet down in the southern in Phoenix, they
probably tell you to stay home.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
You I did not look up what to do while
driving in a boob to see if that would be
the first thing.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
You're just afraid to type the word bob because you're
afraid the algorithms to put naughty things on your phone.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Will it so the so so so. Further on, it said,
you know, drive slowly, headlights on low, beams, windshield wipers
on low, be careful, steer into the skid if your
(12:22):
car starts. It's just all the thing.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I do remember that. The light thing though, it was
always like use your low beams because if you've ever
put your high beams on on a snowstorm, you feel
like you're in Star Wars going through the galaxy.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
It's very high beams will illuminate the wall of snow
in front of you versus the ground in front of you.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
It has something to do with the reflective nature of
the snow, I believe as well.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
And now and I can I can understand during a
boob when that they would like you to turn your
car off, because I don't imagine they want a whole
bunch of sand coming through your engine.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Well, that was what Tanner said, safety be damned. His
point was, mom, this stuff like, you don't want to
breathe in all this dust. As a matter of fact,
there is a condition that comes from these haboobs called
valley fever. If you live down in these desert areas
and you inhale too much of the dust spores, you
(13:17):
can get quite quite sick and end up in the hospital.
And I will tell you that for a few days
after the haboob, I mean we were in Oh, I'm
having trouble finding my words today, we were I felt
very yucky in my lungs, like just a little bit
that I was out breathing in because it's not like
you can hold your breath. And you did see people
(13:39):
like with masks on, and I mean I pulled my
shirt up over my nose and mouth a little bit
to try. But oh, my goodness, in your eyes, everything,
it's just you can't get away from it. Not healthy
for anyone. Whereas if you inhale a bunch of snow
in therapy, it's going to melt well.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And again when you're in a blizzard, it does tell
you also do not leave your automobile because if it's
a blizzard, it's probably cold and you will end There
is the danger of just getting lost as you walk
away and all of a sudden you can't see anything. Sure,
but I thought it was. And again I my intrepid
(14:17):
reporting did not have me type in what to do
while driving in a hiboob to see if it brought
up some of the same things. But when for the blizzard,
it was very, very factual. This is what you do,
and shout out to mom and dad very much what
you've told us to do ever since we're fourteen fifty.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Absolutely, especially that part about hey, idiot, if there's a
blizzard coming, stay stay home.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Stay home. No still go out. It's a simple deal.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
It's kind of like every time my kids leave the house,
I always say, watch for deer. One would think that
we live in a pasture of deer, but anytime it's
morning or evening, I'm like, watch for deer. Watch for deer,
even in the city which there our deer. But why
do we These warnings don't always prove fruitful. However, last night,
(15:06):
after our little boat tour, we went for a walk
and we saw plenty of deer on the road.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
We did see plenty of deer crossing the road, one
of a pack of herd heard we heard. We're not
sure about that one.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
We could go back to the podcast about groups of animals.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
If you feel free to go back and check a
fact check me on on what a group of deer
would be. That was would have been probably about a
year and a half ago, perhaps.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
One of my fingers. We did that up here. We
did it from the dock of the bay.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
So it would have been during the summertime anyway, the
so yeah, we did, and there was a vehicle that
came right after it, And then we started thinking to ourselves, well,
what would we do if that vehicle had been a
little earlier and ran smack right into that heard a deer.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
That would have been yucky. I probably would have cried
because well, I mean, I guess for whatever reason, hopefully
the people in the car would be okay. But I
don't want to see a bunch of deer gets slaughtered
like that.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
And here's and here. The interesting thing for those of
you who aren't familiar with driving around whether there are
plenty of deer, is that as you're driving along on
the road, and if you're going anything over forty five
point fifty, if a deer decides to cross the road,
there isn't much you can do.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
You No, they say, the absolute worst thing you can
do is slam on your brakes, because your car is
likely to lose control or you will lose control of your.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Combination the combination of that, and when you slam on
your brakes, the hood of the car goes down, which
gives the inactual slope for the deer. If you were
to hit the deer, the slope of the car goes
down to the deer would then come up the hood
into the windshield.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Is that true?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
That is true?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I heard yet.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
So that's why that's one of the reasons why you
would not want to The second reason is that, believe
it or not, the deer, much like a squirrel or
anything else, senses the speed that the vehicle is going
and as best it can for that. Now, deer occasionally
aren't as fast as they think they are.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Sure, based on the number of carcasses on the side
of the road, I would say their depth perception and
ability to discern the safety of their crossing is a
little bit challenged from time to time.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
But the point is that even if you do see
a deer and the deer crosses the road in front
of you, there's not a lot you can really do.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You can't swear you can. You can be mindful and
watch ahead of you and have everyone in your car
with their eyes peeled and be like, help me watch
for deer. My eyes are really bad at night. Help
me watch for deer. And you know, there's a witching hour,
that's what my mother calls it, so you know right
around you know, if.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
It's if it's dusk and you can there's enough lights,
you can see far enough ahead, then that would Yes,
that does sometimes help out, especially they're standing in the
middle of the road. If it's night, you can really
see as far as your headlights really, so I mean
you can't really see that and see what's coming up
ahead of you, but it does, especially if it's night
and you up here and you've been driving for a
while and you're tired. It does kind of perk you
(18:03):
up a little bit. Get something to do.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
It gets like an I spy game, gets your senses
on high alert.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yep, you can, so you can watch for them. So
for those of you who have I have personally knock
on wood, have not hit a deer for wow, very close.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Wow, you just said that. Why did you put that
into the universe.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I put it into the podcast. Well, because you never
let me drive, so don't have to worry about it.
So I got that.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I let you drive the other day. Oh yeah, I
was so tired.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yes, she has. She has to be like dead to
the world.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Well, you liked it when we when we go on dates,
you drive usually I just don't. It's a long distance drive.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
If we're going to the movie theater about two blocks
down the road here, honey, you have control.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Okay, six and a half years and we went to
three movies, two of which had my children along. I
hardly would call that a date. But anyway, well that's
as far as we're gonna this podcast. Podcast will continue
after we turned off the mics.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
So so basicly so basically our dates are I go
to Target to get food for dinner, so I get
to drive at that point. It's awesome.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
That's very true. There was one thing I was going
to mention because I think we've pretty much beat a
dead deer in this podcast. But the dog does the
same thing. When a dog comes running at you full
speed and you think you're going to outsmart the dog
and step out of its way, the dog is aware
of how fast you are going, which direction you are going.
And I always tell people if clover comes running at
(19:32):
them full speed and excitement, do not do not zig
because she's already planning on zigging. And if you both zig,
Chaos and Susan were painful on your knees and your shins.
I'm telling you from personal experience. Just assume the dog
sees you and is not going to run into you. Now,
from time to time she misjudges her size and grazes,
(19:54):
you know, the back of your knee, which also not pleasant.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Agreed. While we're going to wrap this one up to
let everybody know that we are currently the only boat
out on the water. There was a fissure.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
There is a boat right there?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Oh is there where?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Right there? Oh we moved sorry, well I couldn't see
it because I've been.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Blinded by the sun is bs out here. There's actually
there's a boat right there, a guy's fishing, and another
a red boat right there where.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Anyway, it doesn't matter. I think we're the only boat
as far as I can tell, from what I can
see steering into the sun. We're the only boat that's fair.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
You are staring into the sun. This has been another
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