March 11, 2025 • 42 mins
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How do we make our jobs, our kids, and our ministries into idols? When do good things become idols to us? How can we keep this from happening? The guys break it down. Michael reveals the origins of old sayings.
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How do we make our jobs, our kids, and our ministries into idols? When do good things become idols to us? How can we keep this from happening? The guys break it down. Michael reveals the origins of old sayings.
#joerogan #podcast #mensministry #christianliving #biblestudy #cussing #charliekirk #joerogan #jasonwhitlock #fearless #menshealth #christianliving #vincevaughn #timtebow #christianmotivation #churchmemes #mensministry #promiskeepers #timtebow #patrickbetdavid
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Yo, what are you doing right now?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We are gonna get real about men's issues, who Jesus
is and who we are as men in Christ. We're
gonna hear Trey, Jeremy, Michael and Brad break it down.
These guys call themselves the cussin Christians.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
All right, guys, what is going on here?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
As an advisor to Clinton?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
And he's still whack John?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Stop it, stop it, stop it.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
But what are their conversations like every night? Are they
like just in each other's kitchen?
Speaker 6 (00:35):
Imagine sitting at like the dinner table and just having
like these intense debates every single night about.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Oh, I'd be worn out.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah, what you don't agree about? I mean, I think
you could be.
Speaker 6 (00:44):
You're goulda be in separate parties, but like your core
values would have to all be the same, right, Like,
I mean, I could see where you know, a woman
might vote different than a man. I can see that,
But like I couldn't see the the whole core value
systems being left and right that far apart.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Right grounds for divorce in the Bible?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Is that legal no political division? I don't think so. Sure.
Maybe it's in the apocrypha. I looked it up.
Speaker 6 (01:08):
I think the only language, I think the only grounds
for divorce was actually uh adultery, adultery.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
And there's some there's some interpretations of.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Abuse. Was some type of abuses. Also, it was also
could justify a divorce. But and that that that.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Had been interpreted differently over the past hundred years.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
But well, it's a good thing we got Jesus because
you know, we don't have to worry about the sin
of divorce.
Speaker 7 (01:35):
Yeah, I know, Michael, you were talking earlier about old
sayings that we don't use anymore. I always thought talking
about finding a needle in a haystack, well, needle is shiny.
It's a shiny object. And I don't think it would
be that hard to find a needle, I mean, because
it's going to.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Shin a lot. Have you ever seen a haystack? Yeah,
but I mean I think it'd be hard to find
a noodle in a haystack, because I mean, so I
used it.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
They kind of blended.
Speaker 7 (02:00):
Yeah, Well, like, yeah, it's the same color, it's the
same shape, it's it's not a shiny you know, you're talking.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
About a raw noodle, not a soft noodle. Yeah, yeah,
raw noodle. So I'm like, hey, man, that's like fine
trying to find a noodle in a haystack.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
I'm just just making sure you get the point, because
it find we are a simple guys.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
It's like piss poor.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
You know.
Speaker 8 (02:19):
They used to tan leather with urine, so that's how
they made their money when they were so they were
piss poor.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Oh oh yeah, that's what you know. They made money
off of that.
Speaker 8 (02:30):
And then throwing the baby out with the bathwater was
the baby always had the last bath. The father always
took the first one, and then it went down. I
mean you imagine.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
I remember my grandfather and grandmother told me stories about
that stuff like that's I mean, they grew up in Virginia,
you know, poor farmers stuff, and I mean that's how
they took baths.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I mean, and you didn't take them every day either.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yeah, you get a pretty man.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Everybody shared shared the same bathwater.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
It ain't Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Take that bath before.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
I remember taking like bass of my little brother and
stuff when I was a kid, and I thought it
was gross.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I mean I was like six and he was one.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
There's no telling anytime he could just blow oh yeah,
you know, and then the bath.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
To the baby Ruth in the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, oh my gosh, I won.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Yeah, one of the classic scenes of all movies.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
With the baby Ruth bar and the pool pick it
up and eat it too.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Originally piece of information about that movie.
Speaker 8 (03:32):
He never had any lines originally in the movie, and
he transformed it with all the stuff that he did.
Everything was ad live, and I guess the original tape
was like six hours long, and I had to That's
why when you watch the movie it's kind of hodgepodge.
It doesn't jump around, it doesn't flow real well sometimes.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
But yeah, image editing that, oh man, Yeah, with that
much raw footage and trying to figure out what.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
We got to keep that take, you got to keep it.
Speaker 8 (04:00):
No, that's that was their problem because especially Bill Murray
was ad living through everything.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Especially you know that he would have been a lot
of fun to work with. I mean, it would have
been a lot of fun to work with it. I
can't imagine even the stuff he does now it's fun.
Oh god, I mean he's hilarious.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Oh, guys, missed, missed everybody. Last week I was out
of town. Some came up with you guys, so we
circled back full swing all four of us in the place.
Had an amazing chat with Bill Tody on the last
one what a guy we last week Impact Ministries and
(04:36):
why we were formed came to fruition As. On Wednesday,
I got a phone call. Some some ladies saw saw
my son, my stepson at the at the gym, and
he was wearing one of our shirts with the with
the seal on it. And she saw it and she
went up to him and just said, talk to me,
what what's this about this group? I've seen these shirts?
(04:59):
And he explained, who are kind of what we do,
what our goal is to help men overcome? Right, She goes,
I would love to get my husband plug men. He's
going through some horrible things. I'm scared. And Matt just said,
call my dad. And I was getting ready to go
to Texas for the funeral. My phone rang. It was
her and I'd met her before at the gym. She
(05:21):
and her daughter had actually come to see Zach Williams
and she realized who I was, and we talked and
reminisced about that, and she but then she was she's
just scared of death for her husband and in the
state of mind he was in and what he was
contemplating and I couldn't get to him. I called Bill Tody,
who was our last guest. You know, and this guy's
(05:43):
twenty year vet of a veteran. Uh, she's she's actually
a veteran as well. And I called Bill. He said,
I said, dude, I can't break away. Someone needs to
get with this guy. And he goes give me the
address and to hours later he called me and said,
I just sat at their kitchen table and he was
(06:08):
planning it.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
But we have another plan now, planning suicide.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Yeah, okay, And but but then Bill said afterwards, now
he and I have a plan. And he came to
the first Veteran of the Veterans meeting on Monday night
that happened happens at the church, and he just said,
I was in a dark spot. I didn't know where
to go. And I said, dude, we got you. So
that was impact in action last week. And yeah, so
(06:38):
just the leadership, right and and and Bill, and Bill
was thankful because he you know, he's a retired he
doesn't have a job. He does have a job, he's retired,
but you know, and as he said, he's only been
saved for two years, right, And he had this successful
military career, then successful career the business world, and finally
(07:01):
he came around and Jesus found him and he accepted it,
and he made the comment, I was so happy to
get to him because there's a few that I haven't
been able to get to.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
And I feel that as well.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
You know, we've done two or three suicide funerals the
past few years, and in any case, I just wanted
to give that shout out to our friend that was
on the last podcast. If you haven't seen his podcast
yet with us, please go backwards one episode and you'll
see our interview and time with Bill Tody. And also
(07:35):
I put it on our Facebook page his own podcast
that they surpassed ten.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Million views the other day.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
So it's called the Unauthorized Biography of the Pacific War.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I believe that's with authorized history Pacific War.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Right, and yeah, history of the Pacific War.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
And he's got veterans from all over the world following that.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
So just an inspirational guy.
Speaker 8 (08:00):
So just on that note, Trey, if you guys contact
us in an email or whatever, somebody's going to reach
out Impact Ministry, somebody is going to be there.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
We've done it before.
Speaker 8 (08:12):
You know, you've sent me emails and IT'SID I call
the guy so it happens.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
It's important.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
I met with a man yesterday that wants to be
one of those guys for someone that might be struggling.
And on the Brotherhood support page of our website, it's
listed are you struggling with? And there's a watch list
of things struggling with. There's a man that we know.
We can put you in touch with you if you
(08:39):
send me an email and saying you're dealing with something
that I can't relate to. Guess what I can put
you in touch with someone that has experienced exactly what
you have. And and I met with this man Wednesday
because suicide is part of my past and then the
experience of having three friends of mine commit suicide was
(09:01):
really heavy on my heart. So I felt like he
and I made a connection and we're going to be
meeting each week and he's gonna he's a Christian and
sometimes Christians getting into a season of life. Man, and
the depression and suicidal thoughts are real. If you can
be transparent about it, you'll get no judgment, no condemnation,
no nothing from us, but on arm around you and
(09:22):
let's pray together and try to work through it. So
I just wanted to open that with that since we
haven't been around each other in a while and I've
missed you guys.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, life's just good right now, I mean awesome, you know,
catching up.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Looking back, I think we can all relate to this,
and it's kind of what our topic is tonight. I mean,
looking back, how consumed do we get with other things
happenings in our life, the worry, the anxiety, and now
looking back here going I went through that time, I
was stretched, but now I'm seeing the light again, and
(09:58):
you're you know, we.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Go through the these seasons, right.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
And sometimes you got you get readjusted on. I shouldn't
have been concentrating on that so much.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Well that's one of those things.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
It's ironic we're having this conversation today because I actually
was in a conference room yesterday morning talking to two
young ladies, and one of which is Hindu, the other
which is a Catholic that's trying.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
To figure out her way out. Actually she was talking
to me ironically.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Our way out of the Catholic faith.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
No, she's her thing is like she she always has
been Catholic, right, so she's she believes.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
But she's just kind of trying to figure it out.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
And ironically, the night before we're at a bar with
some clients and she started talking to me about it,
and I said, you know, well, my biggest thing is
the religiosity of the Catholic Church is like, I think
people get caught up in that versus you know, relationship,
and you know, you can put all the ashes on
your forehead you want, but that's not going to get
you to have it. And you know, like yeah, yeah,
that's when we had the conversation with Ash Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
So it's like, you see all these guys, I love it.
Speaker 8 (10:53):
I wipe them off of people when I see him
nice wow, oh you guys.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
No, No, it's like such an asshole.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
That's such a movie.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
That's because how long are you supposed to keep them
on until they wash off? Well, so that's next morning
when you take a shot that evening.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
If you have seen them their forehead, oh yeah, there's
probably If there was a seven people in the bar,
about forty of them had ashes on their forehead.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Do you do the ask yourself? It is a pre
to the church.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
And remember man that you were dust in the dust,
you shall return and it's made out of the palms
from palm Sunday Sunday.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Right, Yeah, so let's go through the trouble.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
They'll go through the trouble to go to a it's
a church, it's a service, okay, and everybody gets it
done and then they go to the bar that night.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Or wherever you keep it.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
I mean, I was in downtown Charlotte. There's a Catholic
church right there, and there's a line out the door.
They literally just assembly line them through. Yeah, I mean,
it's it's all it is. Like they basically do the
Eucharist and then like they just start walking through.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Freaking Catholic out. Next time you get something on your.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Head, no, no, I'm you don't get smacked more often. Yeah,
I love you. But like if you came up there
and we tried to wipe off my forehead, I think.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Next year I might do like I'm a dazzled one,
Like I'll get some little stick on jewels and do
like a really elaborate giant cross on my forehead.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, just one up, you know.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Like yeah, So no, I was talking to her and
then the next morning we got a chance to sit
down and we were just talking about just things in general,
and it kind of came up of like, you know,
she actually made the comment. She goes, you know, we
just like we don't sit and observe because I wonder
how much many things we miss on the phone and
(12:37):
different things like that. And it led to this conversation
about like and I said, well, you know, think about it.
I was like, you know, what we've been we were
talking about anxiety and depression and things like that, and
I said, you know, it's funny. I was like that
the things that we get anxiety and depression over are
things that don't really matter ninety nine percent of the time.
It's like, think about like our counterparts in India, the
people they walk by on the street every morning. I
(12:59):
was like that literally don't know where they're going to
sleep tonight. They don't know where they're gonna eat, they
don't know what they're gonna drink. Because like, the anxiety
is a is a natural thing, but it's it's made
to make you think about like you know, so you
get moving, right, but we get so consumed and a
lot of times our phones become that thing that we
focus on more. I was like, and I believe that,
you know, you don't have to worry about tomorrow. It's
(13:20):
just gonna come anyway. So like, you know, I don't
get the anxieties off, and I still get it, don't
get me wrong, but like, but anyway, led this really
good conversation that you've got a chance to bring up
to God and Jesus and whatnot, so and just kind
of why I don't why we don't need to worry,
you know, but if I leave this at home, if
you're going to the storm and forgot your phone and
then like dang it, yeah, like what am I going
to do now?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
It's it's almost like it needs me.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Yeah, And it's almost like you pull into the parking
lot if I haven't gotten out of the car yet.
Sometimes I consider going back to get the phone before
I drive back to go into the store.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Yeah, I mean, but yeah, it's it's I don't know,
it's amazing how much this device it can be instilled
in our life. And when we were talking, actually said,
you know, one of the the funniest thing is like
when I go on these offshore trips, I'm gone for
four days right at about twelve to fourteen miles, you
lose cell phone service typically, and it's gone, and I
have this anxiety for like six or eight hours, and
(14:12):
then all of a sudden, my body's like they get
over it, right, and then I'm so peaceful the whole trip. Yeah,
And then all of a sudden we get back within
that twelve to fourteen miles three days later, four days later,
and you know, all the bars pop up and you
can hear my phone just dinging, and then like the
anxiety hits me again because it's like.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Oh, with everyone that dings, you're going, huh, it's just
like my mountains because I got to read it again,
you know. Well, it's like I talked about C. S.
Speaker 8 (14:37):
Lewis's book Screwtape Letters, and then I mentioned in a
while back, and that is he's talking to the other
Satan's talking to the other demons, and he says, what's
the best way to get the Christ followers away from Jesus?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
And he says, distraction.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Yeah, we have so many idols, yea, in the Western culture,
in the Western Church, we have so many idols. And
he started with that with the with the phone, and
we kind of went around the room of He said,
isn't it crazy how we always say, you know, I'm
going to set up to work God in for like
forty five minutes today. Why why why don't we Why
don't we set up to say, you know, I'm going
(15:16):
to be with God all day to day and I'm
going to work forty five minutes and to check my
emails and check and check my text and return calls.
Why don't we say we're going to work that in
to God's thing? And I thought it was and just
the idols that we follow that we look at. Sure,
And I just asked, you guys, think about what what
what idols have you had in your life? You just
(15:39):
said your phone? And maybe louis this talk about what
this distraction is?
Speaker 3 (15:45):
What this idol?
Speaker 5 (15:46):
What? What is that golden calf that has been made
for us so that we've made well, They keep us
from focusing.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
They can even be good things that are just out
of balance absolutely focus. For me, I think in the
past it I may have wandered into that realm with
playing on the worship you know, playing on the worship team, because.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
For twelve interesting comment right there.
Speaker 7 (16:06):
For twelve years my wife and I both played twice
a month, you know, for like ten years uninterrupted and
so and I love doing it's great, it's serving, but
the thought of that being taken away from.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Me would have devastated me.
Speaker 7 (16:19):
It would have been like, oh no, my life is
over kind of thing, right, And I think when it
gets to that point is when it becomes it can
become an idol.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Right, And so that's session.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
Yeah, sometimes we have to evaluate ourselves and say, okay,
what what if my phone broke or what if I
couldn't play guitar anymore? It's like would I be devastated
or could I still? Could I still rejoice in you know,
my relationship with the Lord? Like would that still? Would
that be the top thing? So it's like whatever is
taking the place of God or whatever is competing with
our affection towards Him is something we got.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
To So yours is great intentions. Actually, ministry focused was
an idol for you?
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Sometimes, I wonder because we there's a lot of opportunities
to serve. Anytime you're at church, everybody's very encouraging. They're like,
you know, thanks for helping out, and it is a
good thing to serve. But I think I think you
can you can wander into that space where it becomes,
you know, more important than than your relationship with the Lord.
Speaker 8 (17:12):
Why I asked you about the work life balance, you know,
it's the job overtaking you're like I had said before,
that that order that God wants us to be in,
you know, seek first the Kingdom of God and all
his righteousness, and all things will be out in under you.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
That work life bounce, I don't. I don't do it anymore.
Speaker 8 (17:34):
I mean there was times, especially when I was in
a different division, I'd leave on Sunday and get back
on Friday, and it was like, man, it was it
was tough, dealing with criminals. And so I just I
can see where your job can can be an idol
for you. And I just wondered if struggling with that.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
You know, I think that God gave me this job,
in this this move, right, He's put it in front
of me, and he wants me to honor him through
what I do there. Right, So I'm very dedicated to
what I'm doing, and it is interfered some and like
you know, because I'm out late, you know, things like that,
I'm traveling like I'm not home as much.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So I don't have as much time on my hands.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
But but no, I don't think right nowadays, I think
anything that that brings us affirmation or makes us feel
good about ourselves can easily become an idol. Could And
so you know, I mean you're feeling good, You're you're
cruising along with your your being successful in your work,
You're getting a grip on it. So that's something that
could they could become a folk there.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
Yeah, But I mean, you know, we had talked to
last week about crazy sports parents and how we we've
all had kids in sports, we've all coached.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
I was that you were a crazy sport dad.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
Not keep going on, No, no, I'm just saying, yeah,
that's that's that's a very tangible thing. You can You
can look at other people and say they are nuts
about their kid's success in sports, and it's more about
the parent than it is about the kids. But it
becomes I mean, that becomes an idol because why what
you wouldn't behave that way if you had a proper
balance of God's First, This is a nice you know,
(19:02):
sports is a good thing for my kid to be
involved with. But but my day is not made or
ruined by whether they lose or win. And you know,
like I said, we've all coached, we've all had kids
that were in it, and and for five or six years,
my son was like the best. He was the best
kid on the field playing soccer. And so it felt good,
like indirectly it felt good like hey, I'm the dad
of the best kid out there.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, And I don't think of it, but it steeps in.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
And then when he decides to quit or he doesn't
want to play anymore, it's like, oh wait, wait a minute,
like my life. Yeah, we're upset, Like hey man, that
that made me feel good, Like what do you what
do you think you're doing?
Speaker 6 (19:36):
So you yeah, no, there's a guy at the when
my kids do the NFL flag and you know, Gary
Miracle's commissioner over there and the commission commission and so
this one coach, I mean, they're beating this team pretty good,
and the coach starts yelling at the kids, not his
kids are kids. And the next thing he was yelling
(19:56):
at Hunter and Hunter. You guys know Hunter, I mean
he's the we just kid out.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I mean, yeah, yeah, he's.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Competitive, but he's the first one to be like, hey,
good job to the other team, like he's not talking
smack out there, it's coach is yelling at Hunter, and
Hunter Hunters running goes will you just stop talking to me?
Like so, like I mean, and the coach ends up
yelling at Gary and and like just made a whole
scene on the field, and and my wife was like,
you need to go talk to that coach. I was like,
(20:22):
first of all, if I talk to that coach, I'm
going to punch that coach. I was like, so I'll
go about it the right way. And I reached out
to Gary and I was like, hey, man, like listen,
I'm not trying to be that guy. It's not because
it's my kid, right, but that coach is way out
of line. I mean, he should not be yelling at
the kids. I mean, they want to yell at the
kids for talking smack, but the coach is yelling at
our kids like he needs to keep to his team,
like you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
So anyway, we handle it the right way, and you know,
the coach apparently got talked to.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
But it's just crazy why you would be so upset
over a ten year old flag football. It's not even
tackle football, Like that's flag freaking football, you know what
I mean, Like, yeah, everybody thinks that.
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Their kid's going to be in the NBA, in the
NFL and MLB. The chances of the numbers are for
a kid to be in MLB is like one in
six million.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
I think as well, maybe maybe that's one in six
million little league players, right, not one in six million kids.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
That's six million that actually played little Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
You know, but you have the context and the experience
of playing football at the highest level to realize.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I mean, you're one of a small.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Fraction a ten million or whatever that that got your
whole college paid for. Then you were one of even
a smaller amount that got a shot at the NFL.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
Yeah, I mean that's my thing is like, listen, if
you guys make it great. But then like I look
at TV on TV and I'm much in a combine
or whatever, and I'm like, Hunter, I just want to
show you why daddy's telling four point three Yeah you mommy,
look at daddy. You don't have those genes.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
You know.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
We talk a lot about what we fill ourselves with, right,
And I was going through a bad time. This is
when I was in the bottom of that pit and
My outlet was Garrett. Yeah, my outlet wasn't my marriage.
My outlet wasn't wasn't focusing on Jesus. My outlet was
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focusing on And I wasn't that parent to sit in
the stands and make a scene. But I was that
parent that said, I'm going to give him everything I
can to foster what to help, you know, help him develop.
So if it was coaches, blah blah blah, we're talking.
(22:38):
But and that was turned out to be all I
ever really talked about with my son was baseball and football.
And I look back on that, going, yeah, Now, I
had a friend that we lined up, you know, after
I got through coaching then transferred Garrett to the high
school coaches. Right, there was a dad this part of
that group that you know, kids are going through tryouts
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or freshmen or sophomores in high school and to go
to the high school team. And this one dad I'm
sitting next to and he goes, I think he's gonna
make it.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
And I said, why is that?
Speaker 5 (23:09):
And he goes, well, he has a lifetime batting average
six seventy seven. And I went, what are you talking about?
The kids fifteen sixteen years old. He has kept his
statistics since he was in te ball.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
That's weird.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Since he was in t ball, every game he kept
a mental look at. He could tell me how many
hits he's had, Wow, how.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Many is batting average? How many home runs?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Still?
Speaker 3 (23:34):
And I'm like, oh man, you got a problem.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
I think we as a society have a problem because
you look at the highest all the highest rated TV
shows or NFL games, and you know how much we
pay the athletes. I mean, these guys are getting two
hundred and fifty million dollar contracts. I'm like, how how
is there even that much money available?
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Well? TV ratings and sponsored you know, all the sponsorships
all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
So it's a nine billion dollar year. Ye.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Well yeah, I don't think there's anything wrong. I mean
the difference though, I think what we're talking about those
there's nothing wrong. Like I mean, listen, I have my kid,
a hunter does speed and agility training on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
He does practice Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, and then has
games on Saturday. Right, So like, there's nothing wrong with
putting your kids in a position to succeed. No, nothing
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wrong at all, But like it's not our life, you
know what I mean, It's not my life at least,
you know now. For him it's everything. He loves it, right,
and listen, I want to support him every way I
can so.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
And if he was musical, you would shift it to that. Yeah,
it is a piano guitar or we like to dance
like you did.
Speaker 8 (24:40):
And I was a real dick during my coaching days, kids, parents, whatever.
I was really going through a rough time and so
I some of the things that I look back on
now that I I really feel bad about that. I
if I ever see one of these kids or you know,
I'll apologize for But it was my idol because it
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was like, Okay, I'm coach. Now, our kids are going
to go to the we Literal League World Series. Everything
I do is going to get him there because I'm
so brilliant, you.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Know, blah blah blah. And I look back on it
and there was no God in it whatsoever.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
It was my idol. And so I won't say names.
If you're watching, I love you. I forgive me for
all that crap. But it was a rough time and
I can see how we make these things our idols,
and it separates us from the Father, because who elevates
us guys as believers, who takes us to the top.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Is it what we do.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
Or is it God's plan for our life that takes
us to an opportunity where he lets us go on
our own let's us do our own thing. Yeah, Jeremy,
I'm gonna let you start this business. He's the one
that promotes us, He's the one.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
That takes He Literally, I started that job, and it's
crazy to think, but like I was probably a month
away from going to my four one k and emptying
it out to keep things a float. That first paycheck,
it was literally like the last of my money was there, Okay,
I mean I can't like that's how close I was
to like having to like pull money out of places
that you shouldn't pull money out of. I mean, it's
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amazing how you just like took that road. He opened
it up. I struggled for a long time. The very
end I started seeing some success, and then he put
this other opportunity in front of me, and I just
knew that's where I needed to go. And then literally
it was a paycheck away from having to empty money
out of the four one K.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
What was you what were you doing. I want to
hear what you were doing during that time going what
was your prayer?
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Like, honestly, I just got to a point and it
was earlier in the year where I was like when
I was just like, I mean, it was probably it
was actually this time last year, right before so I
was going to cruise and I think I told you guys,
I went through a really really dark spot and like,
I mean it was really dark and like I wasn't
like I didn't know what I was going to do next,
and like, and we went on the cruise and honestly,
I was an asshole in the cruise, Like I mean,
I wasn't very nice. I mean it was I mean,
(27:00):
I stayed out drinking at the at the casinos all night,
get up early, and I'd be pissed off because I'm
up early. I mean it was you know, I wasn't
doing the things I should be doing. And it was
funny because I met that pastor on the cruise and
we started talking and then like kind of the cruise
kind of turned around from there, which is kind of
interesting too, part of that story. And then when we
got back, I was just kind of like, you know
what like you're gonna take care of this, right, and
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like I know you will. And that's when we pivoted
to the CPAs and placing financial advisors because that time
TECH was dead, like there was no staffing for tech
at that point, like it was crazy.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
And that's when I started getting some wins.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
And then it still wasn't great, I mean, and I
was definitely stressing, and I finally got I don't know,
I just doesn't feel like this is the path you
want me on basically, but I don't know where to
go because nobody's hiring people like me, right, you know
what I mean, Like my skill set is not being
hired as being laid off right now. And then I
was on LinkedIn one day and I saw a Jay
(27:57):
who's our or our COO. He's co owner with and Jeanie,
our CEO. So I reached out to a Jay. I
was like, hey, man, like, haven't talked to you in
like five years, and blah blah blah. And the next
thing you know, I got a call from recruiter and
it just kind of all worked out, and I remember
at the end, I was like, Lord, I don't know
what you want me to do next, but like you know,
And he actually gave me a couple of wins there
at the very end, and it was almost like, hey,
(28:18):
if the job doesn't work out.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
Saying, I'd me staying this. This is going pretty good.
So do you think Satan was dangling a bone going,
God's going to provide for him, and God's going to
do this thing in a big way. But I'm I'm
gonna leave Jeremy astray with this bone over here.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
Absolutely. And here's why I know that's true. So I
got forty thousand dollars worth of fees my last week
before I started at Artech, or before I accepted the
job at Artech, so I knew I had forty thousand
dollars coming in. I took the job three weeks in.
The two clients both of them called me. They were like, hey,
the guys aren't working out, so you're gonna to repay
the fees. Oh he took the fees off the table.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Wow, whoa wow.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
So there's no one back right, there was no company
there to go back to.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
He literally said, hey, you know, you could probably use
forty grand right now, but I don't want you to
think that this isn't my path and.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
He just took the forty grand off the table. You
know you mentioned you went on this cruise. It was
it was a it was a leisure cruise.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah. Your anniversary.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Yeah, time for you to check out, Time for you
to rekindle things with your wife, Time for you guys
to enjoy each other, time for you to experience different
parts of the world. R and R. Shut your phone
down all that yet you were consumed, right, And last
(29:41):
year I experienced something kind of similar because I, as
great as that Gainsville event, was our ministry to giant
hit and Donna and I went on a cruise not
long after that as well, and the whole it was
like three quarters of the time all I could think
about was I got to pay some bills and it
(30:04):
just brought me down, man.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
And I was so.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Focused on the money part of ministry that I missed.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Money was your right on the money?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Was the idol on that. And then one day I
met one of the Saint Islands St.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Thomas, and we were on a catamaran cruise and I'm
sitting there with an umbrella drink waist deep in this
beautiful Caribbean water, and this guy comes up to me
and goes hello, mate, and I said, shrimp on the
bobby and he goes, absolutely, I'm from Australia. And then
(30:44):
he said, I've noticed your shirt. Tell me about this group.
And my whole trip changed and I was focusing on
Jesus once again. It's weird how it took a guy
from Australia that shared with me his story near death,
(31:09):
you know, all these things. And ever since after that,
all of a sudden, the money stuff started. The lord
just the money stuff started taking care of itself without
me stressing and putting it up on a pedestal.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
And thinking, I got to do everything I can to
fix that.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
And it was one guy from Australia on the cruise
and I hung out with him a lot the rest
of the time. I gave him a bracelet, he gave
me some things from you know, some of the things
from his church.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
It was just too cool.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
But you know, we had different idols at different times
in our life.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
And you know, the money my kid's been one in
the early days still kind of is because I really
try to focus on how I can help him and
I can't. All I can do is give him to
the Lord, and he's he's on a journey and he's
working it out. You, You and your sports parent deal,
you and the a noble cause, Man, I'm gonna I'm
gonna play music and sing for Jesus.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
But it consumes you.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Yeah, we all have something.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Is there anything else that our wives are idols?
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Sometimes? Sometimes obviously we don't do it enough.
Speaker 8 (32:14):
Let's face it, guys, I married my wife for looks,
but not the ones I've been getting lately, I'll tell
you but s. And I think guys can do that
as far as put our spousuess first.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
And whatever we idolize can be taken away.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
And when it does, either we're devastated or angry, and
then that just brings our whole world down. And so
we've all slipped into this thing where we've we've idolized
something we didn't realize we're doing it. And then, like
on your trip, when when God kind of turns it
around and you get your focus back on him, it's
like such a relief. And then you look back and go, man,
that thing that I was idolizing was making me miserable.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
Oh gosh, it does it does? It might give you
some short term like little jolt, But yeah, it doesn't.
I found, you know, with the with this guy from
Australia talking with him and his wife. He told me,
you know, can you can you can you please pray
for this family member that was sick and things like that.
All of a sudden, I realized, I'm focusing on someone
(33:12):
else in christ Now, I'm not focusing on woe is me? Now,
I'm not focusing on that's got to get me from
point A to point B. And it just totally changed
the ball game. Totally changed the ball game.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
I think also, whatever you idolize, you have to keep
feeding it. It has to keep like, I need more wins.
My kids team needs more wins for me to be happy.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
You need to go to this combine, this company, I mean,
this travel league stuff. I mean it was every weekend hotels.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Wore me out, man, and it was expensive, wore me out.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
I tell people today some of the best memories of life,
but also some of the most stress I ever had,
because when Garrett was going through it in high school,
that's when I was going through my darkest stage. I
didn't have the money to pay for it. I was scrambling,
borrowing everything else to get him to go to Atlanta
to the World wood Bat Championship in Atlanta, and you know,
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all these all these perfect game tournaments and all that,
you know, and.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
It wore me out.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
I always tell people, man, that's a great place to be,
but I don't ever want to go back.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Yeah, I just don't.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
You know, we have the Bayhill things going on today
here in Orlando, and you know I was watching you guys.
Ever watch Full Swing on Netflix?
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Yes, I've watched its of it.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah, it's a super good series.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
But you watch these guys, and these guys are guys
that are like one point right, and I would I'm
not going to judge anybody, but I would say Tiger
Wood's at his peak, like his idol was probably golf.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Right.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
But you watch and you watch the Brysons and these guys,
so you can tell, like their whole world is golf.
Bryson is he's a machine man, I mean, and he's
he takes a scientific approach to it. I mean, that's
why he's hitting the ball four hundred yards, right. But
then you watch this guy, Scotty Scheffler, and Scotty at
the Masters, which he won last year. His wife was
(34:54):
pregnant and do any day. And they asked him what
he's going to do if she goes into labor. He goes,
I'm gonna set golf clubs down and go, get on
jet and go. And he talks about God all the time.
He gives, I don't even care. He's like, I don't
care if I win another match. He's like, it's whatever
God has in store for me. He keeps God at
the very center of his entire world.
Speaker 7 (35:14):
And you know, player in the world, how hard that
is to do, because you you have to put everything
to be that good of a golfer. It has to
be everything twelve hours a day. To be a professional musician,
you have to do twelve hours a day.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
It has to be you're probably your craft.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
He is just so centered in the right places. I mean,
it's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Well, that's why if we put God first, the arrows
are going to come. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
He gets a run, and the guy is calm, cool, collected,
stretching in a jail cell because he knew it was
going to work out, Not because hes Scotty shuffler, because.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
He knew it was going to work out. What was
the scenario he there there was an accident and.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
He was trying the traffic was being held up because
of some accident.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
He had to get to the tournament.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
And he was pulling into the get to.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
The tournament, and one cop told him to go one way.
The other cop told him to go the other. He
went the one way, and the cop that told him
to go the other way got mad at him and
was holding onto his car and Scotty was just kind
of barely moving. The guy fell, got a hole in
his pants and scraped up his knee and then boom,
he's going He's going to jail.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
But but yeah, it it.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
You see that you're talking about Tiger, right, I mean,
you know he was zoned in all those years. And
then last week I saw the pictures of him in
a high school football stadium cheering on his daughter who
just won the state semifinals and soccer.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
She's out on the field and he's over there with
all the.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
Other Joe Schmoe's in the world, high fiving everybody. And
that makes my heart feel good, you know it. You know,
it ain't all about golf. It's about celebrating and and
and I don't know if Tiger knows who Jesus is,
but I just I got this impression of him with
somebody different than just someone laser laser beamed like that.
Speaker 8 (37:03):
Well, you know, the people of Israel when they made
the Golden Calf, they weren't that far removed from coming
on seeing all the miracles and.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
Things that God did for them, literally mana coming from
the sky right type miracles.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Like and I'm like, okay, then you you leave that.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
That's what we do.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
That's the exact same thing we do. We leave that
that first love, we leave the truth.
Speaker 8 (37:27):
We get into these idols that we make for ourselves
thinking that that's going to be better for us, and
ultimately it's not. And so we come back to that
hopefully as men, as as Christ followers, and we realize
what our priorities are. And I've I've been on that
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roller coaster in the last few years. It doesn't affect
me anymore. I don't go there anymore to to lift
myself up in the world's eyes.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Do you think about a fis this man?
Speaker 5 (38:00):
And you know Paul wrote the letters to Corinthians and Ephesus,
and you know they go out and preach this message
of Jesus, focus on Jesus, just Jesus, just Jesus.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
And what do they do.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
They built these little idols called Diana Artemis and they
start worshiping a woman.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
And that way we believe in Jesus.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
But this little and Paul almost got killed because he
he hurt the trinket makers living because they were making
little idols, little little statues of this person this this
quote unquote God.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
I guess the question is what's your idol? What has
been your idol?
Speaker 5 (38:41):
We kind of we kind of shared some things today
about our past and what we used to idolize. And
I'm not sure what might pop up tomorrow that I'll
look at and not focus on God.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
It could be anything.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Sure.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
I just know from my experience in this short time
of my life I've been doing this stuff. I get
consumed with who I'm meeting with, where I'm going to go,
show up, what I'm going to be doing, who I'm
gonna be speaking to.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
And what's the response from the crowd, And yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Or yeah or y'all know me?
Speaker 5 (39:13):
Who responds to us on a social media post in
a negative way.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
That's Jeremy's John, that's Jeremy's job.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Jeremy is the one are getting right.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Yeah, no, yeah, and I.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
Can't handle it man, and have an idol Sometimes if
you have like a codependency issue like I kind of
still do. Those are tough, especially when people far back
at you and so you get you get fixated. So
we're just surging everyone here to think about that. What
what How do you get fixated on things?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
What?
Speaker 5 (39:43):
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We got you right, Yeah, we would love for you
to do that. So, well, that said, we ran on
this bad boy up. I'm Trade, I'm Brad, I'm Jeremy.
We are the Christians, so we don't truss all the
time Jeremy does.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Jeremy does.
Speaker 6 (41:38):
I had to talk with HR about it, So that
about you. Yeah, listen, I can't tell it on the air,
but yeah, I'll tell you the story
Speaker 8 (41:48):
About it, all right, all right boy, oh boy, Larry's
Yo, what are you doing right now?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We are gonna get real about men's issues, who Jesus
is and who we are as men in Christ. We're
gonna hear Trey, Jeremy, Michael and Brad break it down.
These guys call themselves the cussin Christians.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
All right, guys, what is going on here?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
As an advisor to Clinton?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
And he's still whack John?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Stop it, stop it, stop it.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
But what are their conversations like every night? Are they
like just in each other's kitchen?
Speaker 6 (00:35):
Imagine sitting at like the dinner table and just having
like these intense debates every single night about.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Oh, I'd be worn out.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah, what you don't agree about? I mean, I think
you could be.
Speaker 6 (00:44):
You're goulda be in separate parties, but like your core
values would have to all be the same, right, Like,
I mean, I could see where you know, a woman
might vote different than a man. I can see that,
But like I couldn't see the the whole core value
systems being left and right that far apart.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Right grounds for divorce in the Bible?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Is that legal no political division? I don't think so. Sure.
Maybe it's in the apocrypha. I looked it up.
Speaker 6 (01:08):
I think the only language, I think the only grounds
for divorce was actually uh adultery, adultery.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
And there's some there's some interpretations of.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Abuse. Was some type of abuses. Also, it was also
could justify a divorce. But and that that that.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Had been interpreted differently over the past hundred years.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
But well, it's a good thing we got Jesus because
you know, we don't have to worry about the sin
of divorce.
Speaker 7 (01:35):
Yeah, I know, Michael, you were talking earlier about old
sayings that we don't use anymore. I always thought talking
about finding a needle in a haystack, well, needle is shiny.
It's a shiny object. And I don't think it would
be that hard to find a needle, I mean, because
it's going to.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Shin a lot. Have you ever seen a haystack? Yeah,
but I mean I think it'd be hard to find
a noodle in a haystack, because I mean, so I
used it.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
They kind of blended.
Speaker 7 (02:00):
Yeah, Well, like, yeah, it's the same color, it's the
same shape, it's it's not a shiny you know, you're talking.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
About a raw noodle, not a soft noodle. Yeah, yeah,
raw noodle. So I'm like, hey, man, that's like fine
trying to find a noodle in a haystack.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
I'm just just making sure you get the point, because
it find we are a simple guys.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
It's like piss poor.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
You know.
Speaker 8 (02:19):
They used to tan leather with urine, so that's how
they made their money when they were so they were
piss poor.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Oh oh yeah, that's what you know. They made money
off of that.
Speaker 8 (02:30):
And then throwing the baby out with the bathwater was
the baby always had the last bath. The father always
took the first one, and then it went down. I
mean you imagine.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
I remember my grandfather and grandmother told me stories about
that stuff like that's I mean, they grew up in Virginia,
you know, poor farmers stuff, and I mean that's how
they took baths.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I mean, and you didn't take them every day either.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yeah, you get a pretty man.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Everybody shared shared the same bathwater.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
It ain't Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Take that bath before.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
I remember taking like bass of my little brother and
stuff when I was a kid, and I thought it
was gross.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I mean I was like six and he was one.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
There's no telling anytime he could just blow oh yeah,
you know, and then the bath.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
To the baby Ruth in the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, oh my gosh, I won.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Yeah, one of the classic scenes of all movies.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
With the baby Ruth bar and the pool pick it
up and eat it too.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Originally piece of information about that movie.
Speaker 8 (03:32):
He never had any lines originally in the movie, and
he transformed it with all the stuff that he did.
Everything was ad live, and I guess the original tape
was like six hours long, and I had to That's
why when you watch the movie it's kind of hodgepodge.
It doesn't jump around, it doesn't flow real well sometimes.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
But yeah, image editing that, oh man, Yeah, with that
much raw footage and trying to figure out what.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
We got to keep that take, you got to keep it.
Speaker 8 (04:00):
No, that's that was their problem because especially Bill Murray
was ad living through everything.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Especially you know that he would have been a lot
of fun to work with. I mean, it would have
been a lot of fun to work with it. I
can't imagine even the stuff he does now it's fun.
Oh god, I mean he's hilarious.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Oh, guys, missed, missed everybody. Last week I was out
of town. Some came up with you guys, so we
circled back full swing all four of us in the place.
Had an amazing chat with Bill Tody on the last
one what a guy we last week Impact Ministries and
(04:36):
why we were formed came to fruition As. On Wednesday,
I got a phone call. Some some ladies saw saw
my son, my stepson at the at the gym, and
he was wearing one of our shirts with the with
the seal on it. And she saw it and she
went up to him and just said, talk to me,
what what's this about this group? I've seen these shirts?
(04:59):
And he explained, who are kind of what we do,
what our goal is to help men overcome? Right, She goes,
I would love to get my husband plug men. He's
going through some horrible things. I'm scared. And Matt just said,
call my dad. And I was getting ready to go
to Texas for the funeral. My phone rang. It was
her and I'd met her before at the gym. She
(05:21):
and her daughter had actually come to see Zach Williams
and she realized who I was, and we talked and
reminisced about that, and she but then she was she's
just scared of death for her husband and in the
state of mind he was in and what he was
contemplating and I couldn't get to him. I called Bill Tody,
who was our last guest. You know, and this guy's
(05:43):
twenty year vet of a veteran. Uh, she's she's actually
a veteran as well. And I called Bill. He said,
I said, dude, I can't break away. Someone needs to
get with this guy. And he goes give me the
address and to hours later he called me and said,
I just sat at their kitchen table and he was
(06:08):
planning it.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
But we have another plan now, planning suicide.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Yeah, okay, And but but then Bill said afterwards, now
he and I have a plan. And he came to
the first Veteran of the Veterans meeting on Monday night
that happened happens at the church, and he just said,
I was in a dark spot. I didn't know where
to go. And I said, dude, we got you. So
that was impact in action last week. And yeah, so
(06:38):
just the leadership, right and and and Bill, and Bill
was thankful because he you know, he's a retired he
doesn't have a job. He does have a job, he's retired,
but you know, and as he said, he's only been
saved for two years, right, And he had this successful
military career, then successful career the business world, and finally
(07:01):
he came around and Jesus found him and he accepted it,
and he made the comment, I was so happy to
get to him because there's a few that I haven't
been able to get to.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
And I feel that as well.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
You know, we've done two or three suicide funerals the
past few years, and in any case, I just wanted
to give that shout out to our friend that was
on the last podcast. If you haven't seen his podcast
yet with us, please go backwards one episode and you'll
see our interview and time with Bill Tody. And also
(07:35):
I put it on our Facebook page his own podcast
that they surpassed ten.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Million views the other day.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
So it's called the Unauthorized Biography of the Pacific War.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I believe that's with authorized history Pacific War.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Right, and yeah, history of the Pacific War.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
And he's got veterans from all over the world following that.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
So just an inspirational guy.
Speaker 8 (08:00):
So just on that note, Trey, if you guys contact
us in an email or whatever, somebody's going to reach
out Impact Ministry, somebody is going to be there.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
We've done it before.
Speaker 8 (08:12):
You know, you've sent me emails and IT'SID I call
the guy so it happens.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
It's important.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
I met with a man yesterday that wants to be
one of those guys for someone that might be struggling.
And on the Brotherhood support page of our website, it's
listed are you struggling with? And there's a watch list
of things struggling with. There's a man that we know.
We can put you in touch with you if you
(08:39):
send me an email and saying you're dealing with something
that I can't relate to. Guess what I can put
you in touch with someone that has experienced exactly what
you have. And and I met with this man Wednesday
because suicide is part of my past and then the
experience of having three friends of mine commit suicide was
(09:01):
really heavy on my heart. So I felt like he
and I made a connection and we're going to be
meeting each week and he's gonna he's a Christian and
sometimes Christians getting into a season of life. Man, and
the depression and suicidal thoughts are real. If you can
be transparent about it, you'll get no judgment, no condemnation,
no nothing from us, but on arm around you and
(09:22):
let's pray together and try to work through it. So
I just wanted to open that with that since we
haven't been around each other in a while and I've
missed you guys.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, life's just good right now, I mean awesome, you know,
catching up.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Looking back, I think we can all relate to this,
and it's kind of what our topic is tonight. I mean,
looking back, how consumed do we get with other things
happenings in our life, the worry, the anxiety, and now
looking back here going I went through that time, I
was stretched, but now I'm seeing the light again, and
(09:58):
you're you know, we.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Go through the these seasons, right.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
And sometimes you got you get readjusted on. I shouldn't
have been concentrating on that so much.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Well that's one of those things.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
It's ironic we're having this conversation today because I actually
was in a conference room yesterday morning talking to two
young ladies, and one of which is Hindu, the other
which is a Catholic that's trying.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
To figure out her way out. Actually she was talking
to me ironically.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Our way out of the Catholic faith.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
No, she's her thing is like she she always has
been Catholic, right, so she's she believes.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
But she's just kind of trying to figure it out.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
And ironically, the night before we're at a bar with
some clients and she started talking to me about it,
and I said, you know, well, my biggest thing is
the religiosity of the Catholic Church is like, I think
people get caught up in that versus you know, relationship,
and you know, you can put all the ashes on
your forehead you want, but that's not going to get
you to have it. And you know, like yeah, yeah,
that's when we had the conversation with Ash Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
So it's like, you see all these guys, I love it.
Speaker 8 (10:53):
I wipe them off of people when I see him
nice wow, oh you guys.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
No, No, it's like such an asshole.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
That's such a movie.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
That's because how long are you supposed to keep them
on until they wash off? Well, so that's next morning
when you take a shot that evening.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
If you have seen them their forehead, oh yeah, there's
probably If there was a seven people in the bar,
about forty of them had ashes on their forehead.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Do you do the ask yourself? It is a pre
to the church.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
And remember man that you were dust in the dust,
you shall return and it's made out of the palms
from palm Sunday Sunday.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Right, Yeah, so let's go through the trouble.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
They'll go through the trouble to go to a it's
a church, it's a service, okay, and everybody gets it
done and then they go to the bar that night.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Or wherever you keep it.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
I mean, I was in downtown Charlotte. There's a Catholic
church right there, and there's a line out the door.
They literally just assembly line them through. Yeah, I mean,
it's it's all it is. Like they basically do the
Eucharist and then like they just start walking through.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Freaking Catholic out. Next time you get something on your.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Head, no, no, I'm you don't get smacked more often. Yeah,
I love you. But like if you came up there
and we tried to wipe off my forehead, I think.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Next year I might do like I'm a dazzled one,
Like I'll get some little stick on jewels and do
like a really elaborate giant cross on my forehead.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, just one up, you know.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Like yeah, So no, I was talking to her and
then the next morning we got a chance to sit
down and we were just talking about just things in general,
and it kind of came up of like, you know,
she actually made the comment. She goes, you know, we
just like we don't sit and observe because I wonder
how much many things we miss on the phone and
(12:37):
different things like that. And it led to this conversation
about like and I said, well, you know, think about it.
I was like, you know, what we've been we were
talking about anxiety and depression and things like that, and
I said, you know, it's funny. I was like that
the things that we get anxiety and depression over are
things that don't really matter ninety nine percent of the time.
It's like, think about like our counterparts in India, the
people they walk by on the street every morning. I
(12:59):
was like that literally don't know where they're going to
sleep tonight. They don't know where they're gonna eat, they
don't know what they're gonna drink. Because like, the anxiety
is a is a natural thing, but it's it's made
to make you think about like you know, so you
get moving, right, but we get so consumed and a
lot of times our phones become that thing that we
focus on more. I was like, and I believe that,
you know, you don't have to worry about tomorrow. It's
(13:20):
just gonna come anyway. So like, you know, I don't
get the anxieties off, and I still get it, don't
get me wrong, but like, but anyway, led this really
good conversation that you've got a chance to bring up
to God and Jesus and whatnot, so and just kind
of why I don't why we don't need to worry,
you know, but if I leave this at home, if
you're going to the storm and forgot your phone and
then like dang it, yeah, like what am I going
to do now?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
It's it's almost like it needs me.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Yeah, And it's almost like you pull into the parking
lot if I haven't gotten out of the car yet.
Sometimes I consider going back to get the phone before
I drive back to go into the store.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Yeah, I mean, but yeah, it's it's I don't know,
it's amazing how much this device it can be instilled
in our life. And when we were talking, actually said,
you know, one of the the funniest thing is like
when I go on these offshore trips, I'm gone for
four days right at about twelve to fourteen miles, you
lose cell phone service typically, and it's gone, and I
have this anxiety for like six or eight hours, and
(14:12):
then all of a sudden, my body's like they get
over it, right, and then I'm so peaceful the whole trip. Yeah,
And then all of a sudden we get back within
that twelve to fourteen miles three days later, four days later,
and you know, all the bars pop up and you
can hear my phone just dinging, and then like the
anxiety hits me again because it's like.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Oh, with everyone that dings, you're going, huh, it's just
like my mountains because I got to read it again,
you know. Well, it's like I talked about C. S.
Speaker 8 (14:37):
Lewis's book Screwtape Letters, and then I mentioned in a
while back, and that is he's talking to the other
Satan's talking to the other demons, and he says, what's
the best way to get the Christ followers away from Jesus?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
And he says, distraction.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Yeah, we have so many idols, yea, in the Western culture,
in the Western Church, we have so many idols. And
he started with that with the with the phone, and
we kind of went around the room of He said,
isn't it crazy how we always say, you know, I'm
going to set up to work God in for like
forty five minutes today. Why why why don't we Why
don't we set up to say, you know, I'm going
(15:16):
to be with God all day to day and I'm
going to work forty five minutes and to check my
emails and check and check my text and return calls.
Why don't we say we're going to work that in
to God's thing? And I thought it was and just
the idols that we follow that we look at. Sure,
And I just asked, you guys, think about what what
what idols have you had in your life? You just
(15:39):
said your phone? And maybe louis this talk about what
this distraction is?
Speaker 3 (15:45):
What this idol?
Speaker 5 (15:46):
What? What is that golden calf that has been made
for us so that we've made well, They keep us
from focusing.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
They can even be good things that are just out
of balance absolutely focus. For me, I think in the
past it I may have wandered into that realm with
playing on the worship you know, playing on the worship team, because.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
For twelve interesting comment right there.
Speaker 7 (16:06):
For twelve years my wife and I both played twice
a month, you know, for like ten years uninterrupted and
so and I love doing it's great, it's serving, but
the thought of that being taken away from.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Me would have devastated me.
Speaker 7 (16:19):
It would have been like, oh no, my life is
over kind of thing, right, And I think when it
gets to that point is when it becomes it can
become an idol.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Right, And so that's session.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
Yeah, sometimes we have to evaluate ourselves and say, okay,
what what if my phone broke or what if I
couldn't play guitar anymore? It's like would I be devastated
or could I still? Could I still rejoice in you know,
my relationship with the Lord? Like would that still? Would
that be the top thing? So it's like whatever is
taking the place of God or whatever is competing with
our affection towards Him is something we got.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
To So yours is great intentions. Actually, ministry focused was
an idol for you?
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Sometimes, I wonder because we there's a lot of opportunities
to serve. Anytime you're at church, everybody's very encouraging. They're like,
you know, thanks for helping out, and it is a
good thing to serve. But I think I think you
can you can wander into that space where it becomes,
you know, more important than than your relationship with the Lord.
Speaker 8 (17:12):
Why I asked you about the work life balance, you know,
it's the job overtaking you're like I had said before,
that that order that God wants us to be in,
you know, seek first the Kingdom of God and all
his righteousness, and all things will be out in under you.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
That work life bounce, I don't. I don't do it anymore.
Speaker 8 (17:34):
I mean there was times, especially when I was in
a different division, I'd leave on Sunday and get back
on Friday, and it was like, man, it was it
was tough, dealing with criminals. And so I just I
can see where your job can can be an idol
for you. And I just wondered if struggling with that.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
You know, I think that God gave me this job,
in this this move, right, He's put it in front
of me, and he wants me to honor him through
what I do there. Right, So I'm very dedicated to
what I'm doing, and it is interfered some and like
you know, because I'm out late, you know, things like that,
I'm traveling like I'm not home as much.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So I don't have as much time on my hands.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
But but no, I don't think right nowadays, I think
anything that that brings us affirmation or makes us feel
good about ourselves can easily become an idol. Could And
so you know, I mean you're feeling good, You're you're
cruising along with your your being successful in your work,
You're getting a grip on it. So that's something that
could they could become a folk there.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
Yeah, But I mean, you know, we had talked to
last week about crazy sports parents and how we we've
all had kids in sports, we've all coached.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
I was that you were a crazy sport dad.
Speaker 7 (18:42):
Not keep going on, No, no, I'm just saying, yeah,
that's that's that's a very tangible thing. You can You
can look at other people and say they are nuts
about their kid's success in sports, and it's more about
the parent than it is about the kids. But it
becomes I mean, that becomes an idol because why what
you wouldn't behave that way if you had a proper
balance of God's First, This is a nice you know,
(19:02):
sports is a good thing for my kid to be
involved with. But but my day is not made or
ruined by whether they lose or win. And you know,
like I said, we've all coached, we've all had kids
that were in it, and and for five or six years,
my son was like the best. He was the best
kid on the field playing soccer. And so it felt good,
like indirectly it felt good like hey, I'm the dad
of the best kid out there.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Amen.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, And I don't think of it, but it steeps in.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
And then when he decides to quit or he doesn't
want to play anymore, it's like, oh wait, wait a minute,
like my life. Yeah, we're upset, Like hey man, that
that made me feel good, Like what do you what
do you think you're doing?
Speaker 6 (19:36):
So you yeah, no, there's a guy at the when
my kids do the NFL flag and you know, Gary
Miracle's commissioner over there and the commission commission and so
this one coach, I mean, they're beating this team pretty good,
and the coach starts yelling at the kids, not his
kids are kids. And the next thing he was yelling
(19:56):
at Hunter and Hunter. You guys know Hunter, I mean
he's the we just kid out.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I mean, yeah, yeah, he's.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Competitive, but he's the first one to be like, hey,
good job to the other team, like he's not talking
smack out there, it's coach is yelling at Hunter, and
Hunter Hunters running goes will you just stop talking to me?
Like so, like I mean, and the coach ends up
yelling at Gary and and like just made a whole
scene on the field, and and my wife was like,
you need to go talk to that coach. I was like,
(20:22):
first of all, if I talk to that coach, I'm
going to punch that coach. I was like, so I'll
go about it the right way. And I reached out
to Gary and I was like, hey, man, like listen,
I'm not trying to be that guy. It's not because
it's my kid, right, but that coach is way out
of line. I mean, he should not be yelling at
the kids. I mean, they want to yell at the
kids for talking smack, but the coach is yelling at
our kids like he needs to keep to his team,
like you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
So anyway, we handle it the right way, and you know,
the coach apparently got talked to.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
But it's just crazy why you would be so upset
over a ten year old flag football. It's not even
tackle football, Like that's flag freaking football, you know what
I mean, Like, yeah, everybody thinks that.
Speaker 8 (20:54):
Their kid's going to be in the NBA, in the
NFL and MLB. The chances of the numbers are for
a kid to be in MLB is like one in
six million.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
I think as well, maybe maybe that's one in six
million little league players, right, not one in six million kids.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
That's six million that actually played little Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
You know, but you have the context and the experience
of playing football at the highest level to realize.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I mean, you're one of a small.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Fraction a ten million or whatever that that got your
whole college paid for. Then you were one of even
a smaller amount that got a shot at the NFL.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
Yeah, I mean that's my thing is like, listen, if
you guys make it great. But then like I look
at TV on TV and I'm much in a combine
or whatever, and I'm like, Hunter, I just want to
show you why daddy's telling four point three Yeah you mommy,
look at daddy. You don't have those genes.
Speaker 8 (21:51):
You know.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
We talk a lot about what we fill ourselves with, right,
And I was going through a bad time. This is
when I was in the bottom of that pit and
My outlet was Garrett. Yeah, my outlet wasn't my marriage.
My outlet wasn't wasn't focusing on Jesus. My outlet was
(22:16):
focusing on And I wasn't that parent to sit in
the stands and make a scene. But I was that
parent that said, I'm going to give him everything I
can to foster what to help, you know, help him develop.
So if it was coaches, blah blah blah, we're talking.
(22:38):
But and that was turned out to be all I
ever really talked about with my son was baseball and football.
And I look back on that, going, yeah, Now, I
had a friend that we lined up, you know, after
I got through coaching then transferred Garrett to the high
school coaches. Right, there was a dad this part of
that group that you know, kids are going through tryouts
(23:01):
or freshmen or sophomores in high school and to go
to the high school team. And this one dad I'm
sitting next to and he goes, I think he's gonna
make it.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
And I said, why is that?
Speaker 5 (23:09):
And he goes, well, he has a lifetime batting average
six seventy seven. And I went, what are you talking about?
The kids fifteen sixteen years old. He has kept his
statistics since he was in te ball.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
That's weird.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Since he was in t ball, every game he kept
a mental look at. He could tell me how many
hits he's had, Wow, how.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Many is batting average? How many home runs?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Still?
Speaker 3 (23:34):
And I'm like, oh man, you got a problem.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
I think we as a society have a problem because
you look at the highest all the highest rated TV
shows or NFL games, and you know how much we
pay the athletes. I mean, these guys are getting two
hundred and fifty million dollar contracts. I'm like, how how
is there even that much money available?
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Well? TV ratings and sponsored you know, all the sponsorships
all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
So it's a nine billion dollar year. Ye.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Well yeah, I don't think there's anything wrong. I mean
the difference though, I think what we're talking about those
there's nothing wrong. Like I mean, listen, I have my kid,
a hunter does speed and agility training on Tuesdays and Thursdays.
He does practice Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, and then has
games on Saturday. Right, So like, there's nothing wrong with
putting your kids in a position to succeed. No, nothing
(24:21):
wrong at all, But like it's not our life, you
know what I mean, It's not my life at least,
you know now. For him it's everything. He loves it, right,
and listen, I want to support him every way I
can so.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
And if he was musical, you would shift it to that. Yeah,
it is a piano guitar or we like to dance
like you did.
Speaker 8 (24:40):
And I was a real dick during my coaching days, kids, parents, whatever.
I was really going through a rough time and so
I some of the things that I look back on
now that I I really feel bad about that. I
if I ever see one of these kids or you know,
I'll apologize for But it was my idol because it
(25:01):
was like, Okay, I'm coach. Now, our kids are going
to go to the we Literal League World Series. Everything
I do is going to get him there because I'm
so brilliant, you.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Know, blah blah blah. And I look back on it
and there was no God in it whatsoever.
Speaker 8 (25:18):
It was my idol. And so I won't say names.
If you're watching, I love you. I forgive me for
all that crap. But it was a rough time and
I can see how we make these things our idols,
and it separates us from the Father, because who elevates
us guys as believers, who takes us to the top.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Is it what we do.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
Or is it God's plan for our life that takes
us to an opportunity where he lets us go on
our own let's us do our own thing. Yeah, Jeremy,
I'm gonna let you start this business. He's the one
that promotes us, He's the one.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
That takes He Literally, I started that job, and it's
crazy to think, but like I was probably a month
away from going to my four one k and emptying
it out to keep things a float. That first paycheck,
it was literally like the last of my money was there, Okay,
I mean I can't like that's how close I was
to like having to like pull money out of places
that you shouldn't pull money out of. I mean, it's
(26:19):
amazing how you just like took that road. He opened
it up. I struggled for a long time. The very
end I started seeing some success, and then he put
this other opportunity in front of me, and I just
knew that's where I needed to go. And then literally
it was a paycheck away from having to empty money
out of the four one K.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
What was you what were you doing. I want to
hear what you were doing during that time going what
was your prayer?
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Like, honestly, I just got to a point and it
was earlier in the year where I was like when
I was just like, I mean, it was probably it
was actually this time last year, right before so I
was going to cruise and I think I told you guys,
I went through a really really dark spot and like,
I mean it was really dark and like I wasn't
like I didn't know what I was going to do next,
and like, and we went on the cruise and honestly,
I was an asshole in the cruise, Like I mean,
I wasn't very nice. I mean it was I mean,
(27:00):
I stayed out drinking at the at the casinos all night,
get up early, and I'd be pissed off because I'm
up early. I mean it was you know, I wasn't
doing the things I should be doing. And it was
funny because I met that pastor on the cruise and
we started talking and then like kind of the cruise
kind of turned around from there, which is kind of
interesting too, part of that story. And then when we
got back, I was just kind of like, you know
what like you're gonna take care of this, right, and
(27:22):
like I know you will. And that's when we pivoted
to the CPAs and placing financial advisors because that time
TECH was dead, like there was no staffing for tech
at that point, like it was crazy.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
And that's when I started getting some wins.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
And then it still wasn't great, I mean, and I
was definitely stressing, and I finally got I don't know,
I just doesn't feel like this is the path you
want me on basically, but I don't know where to
go because nobody's hiring people like me, right, you know
what I mean, Like my skill set is not being
hired as being laid off right now. And then I
was on LinkedIn one day and I saw a Jay
(27:57):
who's our or our COO. He's co owner with and Jeanie,
our CEO. So I reached out to a Jay. I
was like, hey, man, like, haven't talked to you in
like five years, and blah blah blah. And the next
thing you know, I got a call from recruiter and
it just kind of all worked out, and I remember
at the end, I was like, Lord, I don't know
what you want me to do next, but like you know,
And he actually gave me a couple of wins there
at the very end, and it was almost like, hey,
(28:18):
if the job doesn't work out.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
Saying, I'd me staying this. This is going pretty good.
So do you think Satan was dangling a bone going,
God's going to provide for him, and God's going to
do this thing in a big way. But I'm I'm
gonna leave Jeremy astray with this bone over here.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
Absolutely. And here's why I know that's true. So I
got forty thousand dollars worth of fees my last week
before I started at Artech, or before I accepted the
job at Artech, so I knew I had forty thousand
dollars coming in. I took the job three weeks in.
The two clients both of them called me. They were like, hey,
the guys aren't working out, so you're gonna to repay
the fees. Oh he took the fees off the table.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Wow, whoa wow.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
So there's no one back right, there was no company
there to go back to.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
He literally said, hey, you know, you could probably use
forty grand right now, but I don't want you to
think that this isn't my path and.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
He just took the forty grand off the table. You
know you mentioned you went on this cruise. It was
it was a it was a leisure cruise.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah. Your anniversary.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
Yeah, time for you to check out, Time for you
to rekindle things with your wife, Time for you guys
to enjoy each other, time for you to experience different
parts of the world. R and R. Shut your phone
down all that yet you were consumed, right, And last
(29:41):
year I experienced something kind of similar because I, as
great as that Gainsville event, was our ministry to giant
hit and Donna and I went on a cruise not
long after that as well, and the whole it was
like three quarters of the time all I could think
about was I got to pay some bills and it
(30:04):
just brought me down, man.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
And I was so.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Focused on the money part of ministry that I missed.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Money was your right on the money?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Was the idol on that. And then one day I
met one of the Saint Islands St.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Thomas, and we were on a catamaran cruise and I'm
sitting there with an umbrella drink waist deep in this
beautiful Caribbean water, and this guy comes up to me
and goes hello, mate, and I said, shrimp on the
bobby and he goes, absolutely, I'm from Australia. And then
(30:44):
he said, I've noticed your shirt. Tell me about this group.
And my whole trip changed and I was focusing on
Jesus once again. It's weird how it took a guy
from Australia that shared with me his story near death,
(31:09):
you know, all these things. And ever since after that,
all of a sudden, the money stuff started. The lord
just the money stuff started taking care of itself without
me stressing and putting it up on a pedestal.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
And thinking, I got to do everything I can to
fix that.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
And it was one guy from Australia on the cruise
and I hung out with him a lot the rest
of the time. I gave him a bracelet, he gave
me some things from you know, some of the things
from his church.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
It was just too cool.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
But you know, we had different idols at different times
in our life.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
And you know, the money my kid's been one in
the early days still kind of is because I really
try to focus on how I can help him and
I can't. All I can do is give him to
the Lord, and he's he's on a journey and he's
working it out. You, You and your sports parent deal,
you and the a noble cause, Man, I'm gonna I'm
gonna play music and sing for Jesus.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
But it consumes you.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Yeah, we all have something.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Is there anything else that our wives are idols?
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Sometimes? Sometimes obviously we don't do it enough.
Speaker 8 (32:14):
Let's face it, guys, I married my wife for looks,
but not the ones I've been getting lately, I'll tell
you but s. And I think guys can do that
as far as put our spousuess first.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
And whatever we idolize can be taken away.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
And when it does, either we're devastated or angry, and
then that just brings our whole world down. And so
we've all slipped into this thing where we've we've idolized
something we didn't realize we're doing it. And then, like
on your trip, when when God kind of turns it
around and you get your focus back on him, it's
like such a relief. And then you look back and go, man,
that thing that I was idolizing was making me miserable.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
Oh gosh, it does it does? It might give you
some short term like little jolt, But yeah, it doesn't.
I found, you know, with the with this guy from
Australia talking with him and his wife. He told me,
you know, can you can you can you please pray
for this family member that was sick and things like that.
All of a sudden, I realized, I'm focusing on someone
(33:12):
else in christ Now, I'm not focusing on woe is me? Now,
I'm not focusing on that's got to get me from
point A to point B. And it just totally changed
the ball game. Totally changed the ball game.
Speaker 7 (33:22):
I think also, whatever you idolize, you have to keep
feeding it. It has to keep like, I need more wins.
My kids team needs more wins for me to be happy.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
You need to go to this combine, this company, I mean,
this travel league stuff. I mean it was every weekend hotels.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Wore me out, man, and it was expensive, wore me out.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
I tell people today some of the best memories of life,
but also some of the most stress I ever had,
because when Garrett was going through it in high school,
that's when I was going through my darkest stage. I
didn't have the money to pay for it. I was scrambling,
borrowing everything else to get him to go to Atlanta
to the World wood Bat Championship in Atlanta, and you know,
(34:01):
all these all these perfect game tournaments and all that,
you know, and.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
It wore me out.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
I always tell people, man, that's a great place to be,
but I don't ever want to go back.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Yeah, I just don't.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
You know, we have the Bayhill things going on today
here in Orlando, and you know I was watching you guys.
Ever watch Full Swing on Netflix?
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Yes, I've watched its of it.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah, it's a super good series.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
But you watch these guys, and these guys are guys
that are like one point right, and I would I'm
not going to judge anybody, but I would say Tiger
Wood's at his peak, like his idol was probably golf.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Right.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
But you watch and you watch the Brysons and these guys,
so you can tell, like their whole world is golf.
Bryson is he's a machine man, I mean, and he's
he takes a scientific approach to it. I mean, that's
why he's hitting the ball four hundred yards, right. But
then you watch this guy, Scotty Scheffler, and Scotty at
the Masters, which he won last year. His wife was
(34:54):
pregnant and do any day. And they asked him what
he's going to do if she goes into labor. He goes,
I'm gonna set golf clubs down and go, get on
jet and go. And he talks about God all the time.
He gives, I don't even care. He's like, I don't
care if I win another match. He's like, it's whatever
God has in store for me. He keeps God at
the very center of his entire world.
Speaker 7 (35:14):
And you know, player in the world, how hard that
is to do, because you you have to put everything
to be that good of a golfer. It has to
be everything twelve hours a day. To be a professional musician,
you have to do twelve hours a day.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
It has to be you're probably your craft.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
He is just so centered in the right places. I mean,
it's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Well, that's why if we put God first, the arrows
are going to come. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
He gets a run, and the guy is calm, cool, collected,
stretching in a jail cell because he knew it was
going to work out, Not because hes Scotty shuffler, because.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
He knew it was going to work out. What was
the scenario he there there was an accident and.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
He was trying the traffic was being held up because
of some accident.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
He had to get to the tournament.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
And he was pulling into the get to.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
The tournament, and one cop told him to go one way.
The other cop told him to go the other. He
went the one way, and the cop that told him
to go the other way got mad at him and
was holding onto his car and Scotty was just kind
of barely moving. The guy fell, got a hole in
his pants and scraped up his knee and then boom,
he's going He's going to jail.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
But but yeah, it it.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
You see that you're talking about Tiger, right, I mean,
you know he was zoned in all those years. And
then last week I saw the pictures of him in
a high school football stadium cheering on his daughter who
just won the state semifinals and soccer.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
She's out on the field and he's over there with
all the.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
Other Joe Schmoe's in the world, high fiving everybody. And
that makes my heart feel good, you know it. You know,
it ain't all about golf. It's about celebrating and and
and I don't know if Tiger knows who Jesus is,
but I just I got this impression of him with
somebody different than just someone laser laser beamed like that.
Speaker 8 (37:03):
Well, you know, the people of Israel when they made
the Golden Calf, they weren't that far removed from coming
on seeing all the miracles and.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
Things that God did for them, literally mana coming from
the sky right type miracles.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Like and I'm like, okay, then you you leave that.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
That's what we do.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
That's the exact same thing we do. We leave that
that first love, we leave the truth.
Speaker 8 (37:27):
We get into these idols that we make for ourselves
thinking that that's going to be better for us, and
ultimately it's not. And so we come back to that
hopefully as men, as as Christ followers, and we realize
what our priorities are. And I've I've been on that
(37:48):
roller coaster in the last few years. It doesn't affect
me anymore. I don't go there anymore to to lift
myself up in the world's eyes.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Do you think about a fis this man?
Speaker 5 (38:00):
And you know Paul wrote the letters to Corinthians and Ephesus,
and you know they go out and preach this message
of Jesus, focus on Jesus, just Jesus, just Jesus.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
And what do they do.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
They built these little idols called Diana Artemis and they
start worshiping a woman.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
And that way we believe in Jesus.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
But this little and Paul almost got killed because he
he hurt the trinket makers living because they were making
little idols, little little statues of this person this this
quote unquote God.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
I guess the question is what's your idol? What has
been your idol?
Speaker 5 (38:41):
We kind of we kind of shared some things today
about our past and what we used to idolize. And
I'm not sure what might pop up tomorrow that I'll
look at and not focus on God.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
It could be anything.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Sure.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
I just know from my experience in this short time
of my life I've been doing this stuff. I get
consumed with who I'm meeting with, where I'm going to go,
show up, what I'm going to be doing, who I'm
gonna be speaking to.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
And what's the response from the crowd, And yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Or yeah or y'all know me?
Speaker 5 (39:13):
Who responds to us on a social media post in
a negative way.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
That's Jeremy's John, that's Jeremy's job.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Jeremy is the one are getting right.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Yeah, no, yeah, and I.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
Can't handle it man, and have an idol Sometimes if
you have like a codependency issue like I kind of
still do. Those are tough, especially when people far back
at you and so you get you get fixated. So
we're just surging everyone here to think about that. What
what How do you get fixated on things?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
What?
Speaker 5 (39:43):
What could you qualify as an idol in your life
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We are the Christians, so we don't truss all the
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