March 25, 2025 • 51 mins
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Many Vets have a hard time returning to civilian life after their service. What are their struggles? Where can they get help? Garren Cone, talks about how the AVET Project is Providing Life Changing Resources from VA Benefits to Mental Health for our past & present military. More info. at https://avet-project.org
Brad recounts the story of the one armed man that he found in his bathroom.
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Many Vets have a hard time returning to civilian life after their service. What are their struggles? Where can they get help? Garren Cone, talks about how the AVET Project is Providing Life Changing Resources from VA Benefits to Mental Health for our past & present military. More info. at https://avet-project.org
Brad recounts the story of the one armed man that he found in his bathroom.
#joerogan #podcast #mensministry #christianliving #biblestudy #cussing #charliekirk #joerogan #jasonwhitlock #fearless #menshealth #christianliving #vincevaughn #timtebow #christianmotivation #churchmemes #mensministry #promiskeepers #timtebow #patrickbetdavid
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Yo, what are you doing right now? We are gonna get.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Real about men's issues, who Jesus is and who we
are as men in Christ. We're gonna hear Trey, Jeremy,
Michael and Brad break it down. These guys call themselves
the cussin Christians. All right, guys, what is going on?
So we think the driver's gone.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Dude, your drivers out my uh my freezer on refrigerator.
Freezer opened it up and there were icicles coming down
the front.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
On the the ice maker leaks.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
So the icemaker leaks, that's fixable.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Maybe, well, it's already been fixed once. I had a
brand new ice maker put in six months ago.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So yep.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
And I'm just kind of over the door.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Dispensers of ice water because it's just a mess and
it starts looking crappy, and so I I think I'm.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Gonna go get a new one tomorrow, holding fridge on
new fridge?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Sweet?
Speaker 5 (01:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Don how old is your one now?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Ten?
Speaker 6 (01:06):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Because technology has changed.
Speaker 7 (01:08):
Now you can like connect it to your phone and
for whatever reason, whatever you want to do.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
That's that's all I want to do, is connect more things.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
To my phone. Bro, check on the status for your
ice makers through your phone.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, unlocked my front door. Help with my garage door
all that.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
I don't have any of that kitchen.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I don't have keys. You don't have keys to your house? No,
you got keys here? And I have keys. There's two keys,
well three.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
That one goes to my uh locked to the lock
box that I have that has a gun in it.
This one is to my mailbox, and this was to
my truck.
Speaker 8 (01:41):
Okay, well biometrics for the gunlocked gun safe.
Speaker 7 (01:45):
See, I need to get that kind of I need
a biometric thing on the freezer. So the kids, you know,
they they're up at night, down they're cooking pizza and stuff.
They sed a thumbprint, like you can't get in there,
you're locked out?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
There you go, it'd be sweet.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
We'll take They probably have it. It's probably available.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
What happened to the days? I mean, you grew up
in small town America?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Yeah? Right?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Did you even lock your door when you're growing up?
I remember, I remember us. It wasn't a big thing.
Make Sharon lock the door. It just wasn't a thing.
I don't even know my neighbors.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I got an older couple across the street that I
just befriended because she he fell one day and she
asked me to come help him off the floor, and that's.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
How I met him.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
And and there are the only people I talked to.
But everybody else in my neighborhood, I have no clue
who they are.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
Yeah, I know a handful of them, but my immediate
neighbors I only know the name of one, and I
know that's terrible, but like, I.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Just gone to those days. Man.
Speaker 7 (02:42):
For about ten years, we lived we have a condo
Cocoa Beach, and we were living there and so we
know the neighbors right and left of us, but there's
people that are always renting, so there's always strangers around,
you don't know. There was one night we were sitting
and we're eating dinner, and you know, we can look
right out to the boardwalk that goes out to the
beach where bottom floor, and these two dudes were walking
up the boardwalk and my wife says, oh, I saw
(03:03):
these guys earlier today.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
And I'm like, Okay.
Speaker 7 (03:05):
One dude turns a corner and he's he only has
one arm, like from the shoulder, and he's just like
no arm. I'm like, oh, that's interesting. I wonder, you
know what his story is. They walked around, didn't think
anything about it, and about you know, several hours later,
we're watching TV around eight o'clock at night, and I
hear the toilet upstairs flush. It's like a split level
type thing and you have to go upstairs to get
to the front door.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I hear the toilet flush, and.
Speaker 7 (03:27):
I'm like, well, my son's gone, Like is there any
chance the toilet could have flushed itself?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Like, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
You think weird things got you got a critter in
your house? It's ah, so.
Speaker 7 (03:38):
Yeah, So I knew none of my kids were up there.
So I get up there and I walk up there
and I turned the corner and the you know, the
bathroom door's open. There's the one armed guy standing in
my bathroom. He's looking in the mirror. He's like he's
doing something like hey man, and he looks at me
and he's like shocked.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
He's like oh.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
He kind of jumps back because he was a little dude,
but you know, he has one arm. I'm like, hey man,
so I think you're in the wrong place. He goes
what he goes I thought was five oh four and
I'm like, you're on the wrong place, dude, and I'm like,
let's go.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I opened the door and he's like, oh, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I'm so sorry he was, but.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
Like we didn't hear him come in because like our dog,
our dog hears everything and barks if anybody comes in there.
So after that, I was much more vigilant about monitoring
the door, keeping it. Lock it at night anyway, but
we just didn't lock it in the evening when our
kids are coming and going. But yeah, the one armed
guy in the bathroom story is always all get tell.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
My wife call comes into my office last week and
we had football stuff going on. She was like, hey,
you know, like the oven, we can hook it up
to our phones, right, I was again, and it's hooked
up to mine, but we've never used it, right because
I was like, we should probably try that while we're
home before we like decide to try that when we're
at the football field. Like, let's let's make sure we
(04:50):
know how to work that thing.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
You said, the oven, Mm hmm. Cool. So well you
can like remotely start it and yeah, like.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
If you want to like preheat the oven, you can
put it on the smart mote or whatever, and then
you just preheated on the way home.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
That's cool, but who needs that?
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Not me?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Me?
Speaker 9 (05:05):
You got your you got your appliances, you got your
TV watching you when you don't think it is.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Yeah, I don't trust any of it.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
I've just given up on the fact that you're all
just fooling yourselves. You think they don't know already. I
went through the entire Newark Airport the other day on
facial recognition. Didn't even get an id out.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, as last time I flew a few weeks ago,
I'd never pulled out my driver's.
Speaker 9 (05:23):
Lo which is nice coming through customs. You know, you
don't have to deal with it just in your face,
which is sweet.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Hey, we're missing brother Michael today. Michael left four days
ago to head up to Kentucky. He is serving.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I mean, it is his job.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
But with those storms that went through in Kentucky last week, Uh,
there's a lot of devastation.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
I'd be with them.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Yeah, well, you have baseball sized hail.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
He had pictures of front yards that looked like it
was snow stacked up, and the damage to windows and
cars and homes and roofs was awful and Michael, God
bless you. You and your team are going to be
up there for a few weeks. It sounds like to
to sort through all the insurance claims to help those
(06:10):
people out. So I know he's going to look for
an opportunity to share Jesus with everybody he can, and
in spite of the fact that he's so far away
from his wife and we want him back here.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
But he's doing great, great work there. I just hope
he's careful which Pentecostal church he goes to.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Do you see Michael dancing in the aisle bro I'm
talking about the snake ones, all the snake ones. That's right.
They are there. Yeah, well crazy a little bit south
of the Owensboro, but yeah, they are out there. Well
I grew up not far.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
From but you know, we had Gary, I'm sorry. We
had Bill on on the podcast a couple.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Of weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
And mister Tod mister Toady, which his story is a
great his salvation story. His mission in life now is
to help local veterans out. And another person that I
got introduced to the past year and a half through
our friend Tim Thomas.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
As we were seems like it's been longer than no.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
No, dude, it is crazy, right.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
But as if you don't know the story of our
Impact Warriors initiative, we work with a lot of men
that might be going through depression and suicidal thoughts, you know,
and threats and things like that. And there was a
couple of years ago a couple of young veterans came
into our life where we counseled with them with others.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
And it just it just stirred me so much.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
And as I started talking to Tim getting the numbers,
the you know, suicides for veterans is twenty two a day,
and we talked about that with Bill. The challenges of
coming back and adjusting back into civilian life, from just
reconnecting with your family to paperwork, bureaucracy you got to
(07:55):
do to get your benefits, to just confusion, not knowing
how having anybody to relate to, because when you're in
the military and you're going away for eighteen months or
however long your deployment is, you're speaking a certain language.
When you come back, they struggle sometimes just having conversations
with their own family members. And Tim brought garon Cohne
into my life, and uh, we've been kind of attached
(08:16):
at the hip on some of these veterans things. And
he worked you Gary, you work with an amazing Well
you're the founder and want to say your wife's the
head honcho, but you're you're the hired helt. I'm just uh,
but Garan's with the a VET Project right here Brevard County,
and we're going to be teaming up with the a
(08:36):
VET Project as part of our military initiative and awareness
campaign for OOPS, the Matthew West event.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
We're going to have it here in two months.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
So it's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Man.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I appreciate you coming out just sitting in with us.
This uh, this uh is cool. I've been on your
podcast about a year.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Maryland Warrior Radio. American Warrior Radio actually did a good job.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I did.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Yeah, wow, well hey good a.
Speaker 9 (08:59):
Vet American veterans. Here's the key empowerment other key team.
We're a team American Veterans empowerment team. And because of him,
I've been able to reach even more people. And you're
talking about impact Warriors. Tell tell the viewers and the listeners.
You started to say how you got this going? But
(09:20):
why because you're not a bet yourself.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
No, I'm not a VET. None of us are vets.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
But it struck me with this veteran named Evan, who
was a Navy Corman.
Speaker 9 (09:35):
Dude, Like I'm saying, by this guy, he's like a tree.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Yeah when when when I met him, he's he's two inches.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Taller than me. And just so, he didn't work on
the sub No, he was.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
He was a medic for the with the Marines, going
out in the field and putting bodies back together.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And he's he shared some of the horrific things that
he experienced and when he came back to Revard, he
didn't know how to relate. He tried to fill himself,
you know, he couldn't reconnect with his wife, his child.
He he he started trying to fill himself with satisfaction,
(10:16):
but going the strip joints and drinking a lot, doing
some drugs, and he just spiraled out of control to
where I got the call from Hudson and Gary Miracle. Hey,
we need to talk to this guy and put our
arms around him. He had his nine millimeters in his
mouth this morning and we were able.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
To talk him out of it.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
And it just I don't know, it struck me with
this guy and talking with him, garn and you can, man,
I want you to give your experience in working with
veterans in a.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Lot bigger volume way than me.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
It touched my heart so much that these, however, many
hundreds of thousands of people that go through the military millions,
they're disconnected with their own country somehow, and a lot
of times when they come back home and how we Jacob,
one of our brothers that joined our military group for
a while, the Warriors, he said, I came back and
(11:13):
my parents don't even want to talk to me about
what I did, and I need to flush this out,
but it's all superficial. I can't really talk to them
that well. They just want to push it. They just
know that I went to Iraq somewhere, but they don't
want to know any more than that. And it's a disconnect.
And with Evan, it was it got to the point
where his wife left him, took the baby, and they
(11:35):
moved to North Carolina or South Carolina, North Carolina, and
he just spiraled out of control and don't want to
I don't even want to be here anymore, and was
about to take his life before Hudson.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
And them intervene, and it just breaks my heart that.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I'm free to sit here and say whatever I want
on this microphone for the world to hear because of
their efforts, Yet they don't get the credit when they
come back. What do you see what guys coming back
man from.
Speaker 9 (12:03):
Definitely, definitely a disconnect. You've become a regimented machine.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
You're a gi government issue.
Speaker 9 (12:09):
You do what you're told when you're told to do it,
and you do it the best you can when you
come back and whether that's six months, a year, multiple deployments.
I know a kernel hast done fourteen combat deployments. Now
tell me that's not going to twist your brain. Sure,
but in the case of people like Evan, it's about
reintegration and that's one of our core programs pr and
(12:31):
R Project Recuperation and Reintegration. They don't have the touchstones
that they did. They've lost that sense of family, that
brotherhood sisterhood of being in the military, and when they
come back, like you just laid it out there, even
their own family members may not even want to engage,
let alone know how.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
And that's probably as much of the issue as anything.
It's like as a parent, you start to hear the
stories and you're hearing your son know I was in Iraq. Well,
now you have to picture what they pictured in your mind.
Speaker 9 (13:01):
And start by listening. Yeah, just open your ears and
let them talk if they want to talk. A lot
of them don't want to talk. A lot of them
become disconnected with God, whether they've known, whether they've had
a belief in Jesus Christ prior to or maybe they've
lost that based on things they've experienced and seen or
done themselves. So there's a whole lot of different challenges,
(13:24):
and Impact Warriors is like there's plenty of Bible studies.
Impact Warriors is not a Bible study in the classical sense.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
It's an opportunity.
Speaker 9 (13:36):
You bring it every third Tuesday of every month.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
You have the topic set up, but we don't always
follow those.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
It's more of it's like anything we do with our
regular impact. We yield to the brother the needs yielding too,
right exactly, and they need more of that well. And
I think it was so important with Evan, and Evan's
got a great ending to his story, by the way,
because he's reconciled with his wife.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
The actually another child.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
He went to North Carolina and he's living with them
he came to our church and some of our men's
groups and functions and breakfasts and things like that.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
I don't think i've seen him for over a year now, dude.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yeah, and he's just a delightful young man. And I
can't imagine what he saw. He shared with me some things.
But this is where I struggled with Evan. Okay, and Gart.
I've shared this with Garn and Tim and others. I'm
(14:34):
great at coming alongside and put more arm around you,
talking about Jesus with you, but I don't talk military sure.
And that's where when I was trying to talk with Evan,
I could feel it and I sensed it he has
I'm not connecting with him in as deep a way
as I want. So that's when I called Tim Thomas
and I said, man, I'm not sure what this is
(14:56):
going to look like, but it might be the most
important thing we've ever done. I want to start as small,
but I need military guys and I'll organize it, maybe
lead a discussion or two, but I need to turn
it over to where a military guy that stroke can
look at another military guy and bring it. And so
I think I have every branch of the military represented
(15:17):
and except for the Coast Guard. So if you're a
Coast Guard guy and you want to join us, please
give me a call. Force, Space Force and Space Force. Yeah,
I still haven't made this. That's an additional thing, Space Force,
Air Force, UH, Army Navy Marines.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
But so I got this. What the sound like?
Speaker 5 (15:38):
I haven't heard?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Are the Stars the Star Wars?
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Well, I don't know if it would be Star Wars
because they were based off of the Nazis.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Really the Stormtroopers, and I had no call.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
How about Star Trek.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Today?
Speaker 9 (15:58):
But well, they've got the emblem right. Their logo very
much resembles START. That is true, But we got it
right over here Patrick Space for Space.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
It wasn't that logo designed years ago.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
I thought that logo is like, has it been around
for forty years or something like?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It goes way back. It wasn't something they just came
up with.
Speaker 9 (16:16):
Possibly I'm not familiar.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
It is a cool logo. I do like it.
Speaker 9 (16:21):
It's just that you always think a star director see it,
which is fine because they're doing a very important mission.
But guys talking about this mission impact Warriors. We got
to grow this. Everybody out there that's watching this and
listening to this. You got to get this word out.
If you are a veteran or even active duty. We
got active duty guys, oh yeah, yeah, all from nine
(16:42):
to twenty rescuing. You got to get plugged in. And
if you know somebody that's struggling and they don't have
some place to go where it's safe and they can
talk to other people that will relate to them, perfect opportunity.
Because I look at it when you can correct me
if this doesn't work nomenclature wise. More of a support group,
the Christian based support group.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, well yeah, and absolutely it. Like you said, when
I started to impact in sixteen, I went to my wife.
I said, I want to get some guys together, and
she said, oh, you want to do a Bible study?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
And I went, no, Bible is going to be a
big part of it.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
But I've got three Bible studies I'm going to now.
But I wanted a place where men could come get real,
share their fears, share their you know, what hurts them,
share their frustrations, share their glorious things, and you know.
And and it kind of went over into the military
piece because Evan had no joy. Evan had no hope,
(17:40):
and then all of a sudden, we started planning the
seas of Jesus in his brain and his heart started
taking off. And you know, I want to Guaran to
be on because what he deals with day in day
out with veterans, their struggles and getting things. I just
wanted to pick his brain about seventy five thousand veterans
our county alone.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Am I right?
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Is that? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (18:02):
It could be. That's a good number. Yeah, and that's
just veterans. You got the active duty component, a National Guard,
like you said, Coastguard lots.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
So you know in our counties eight hundred thousand people
or so, so you look at one in ten people
that you run it. Yeah, they're military for sure. And
tell us about some of the challenges that you have
to address with these guys and girls and our ladies
and gentlemen.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
There runs the gamut. It really does.
Speaker 9 (18:29):
Predominantly aside from every other issue they might be facing.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
They want to get back here.
Speaker 9 (18:35):
They've heard of this whole VA claim or maybe VA
health insurance. Okay, because again, coming from the military, everything's provided.
You know, you know where you're going to eat, you
know where you're going to sleep, everything's done. It's then
you're thrown out into the civilian world again and they
hear these things, I got to get plugged into the VA.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Well, the VA is a monstrous machine.
Speaker 9 (18:57):
Oh yeah, Anything you ever wanted to know about the
VA is right there at VA dot gov. It's an
ocean of information everything you want to That hard there.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Very very hard to navigate.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
That's just it.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (19:10):
You know, so somebody, whether they're even somewhat versed in
military issues, because you've got Title thirty eight, which governs
the VA, you got Title ten, which governs active duty,
they may know Title ten. I mean, let's hope they
haven't come across the UCMJ. That's where you get in trouble.
That section of the code addresses that, so they may
have some familiarity. But the Transition Assistance program that was
(19:35):
pioneered back in the early nineties, I had a very
tiny part in that in the San Diego area. The
emphasis was to educate them about what's going to take
place once they leave service, and one of those primarily
is getting plugged into your benefits, whether it's healthcare or
whether it's VA benefits. If something happened to you while
(19:57):
you're on active duty. In other words, you you came in,
you were presumed to be of sound mind and body.
If you had a pre existing condition, you may or
may not have gotten in, so you're healthy. When you
get in. They do their intake physical so then you serve.
Maybe it's two years, maybe it's four, maybe it's twenty,
and things happen over that period of time, especially when
(20:18):
you're in the military. I shouldn't say especially because you
could be working for IBM. If you fell off a
ladder and you weren't drunk, you were on the job,
you're going to get workers comp so VA compensation disability
compensation is basically an implied workers comp agreement with the
government standing by their warriors, saying this happened because you
(20:39):
were serving your country, and it's going to be with
you can't be acute and transitory. It's got to be
something that is really going to be a chronic problem.
We're going to help you out, whether it's compensation or
immediate enrollment in healthcare. They come out not really knowing
any of this because the TAP program Transition assistance program
has started off strong, and it's just kind of like
(21:01):
so many things, you know, good intentions but it's not
where it needs to be. And here we are in
twenty twenty five. These kids have more opportunity, more educational
opportunity than ever before. All right, I'm the forgotten generation
from I was in from eighty to eighty seven. From
nineteen seventy five to nineteen ninety, there was nothing.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
There's the door.
Speaker 9 (21:26):
I got medically discharged after Urgent Fury and Grenada.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
There's the door. You're out of here.
Speaker 9 (21:32):
So the Vietnam era folks, they got their GI Bill.
There were other benefits that were payable, you know, free education.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
That's awesome. Would have love that. I had VEEP.
Speaker 9 (21:42):
Veterans Educational Assistance Program, which is for every two dollars
you put in, the government put in a dollar. It's
like a little savings account, and then it was taxed
also at the end of it all. But so for
that period of time, there was nothing. Since that, since
PGW one, the benefits have grown exponential, so they have
they don't know what they you know, didn't have, so
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they know what they've got.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
But it's still there's that connection. You're talking about.
Speaker 9 (22:10):
Leaving military service and coming back out into the civilian
sector presents all kinds of challenges, whether it's familial, nobody's
relating to you. You know a lot of guys and
gals will go to the vfw's or the American Legion
post just to try and strike that up. Well, guess what,
that's not really happening either, because you've got another general
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even my generation and older that are not accepting. They're
not welcoming them in as much as they could for sure,
so they're they're left dangling again.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Why is that?
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Is it like there is like the old timer go
dudes are sitting around and they're going, who's this? Yeah,
they're not going to fit in here? I mean, is
it kind of the mentality old boy?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
The old boy thing?
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
It was rougher my day type things that don't tell.
Speaker 8 (22:56):
Me you don't know how bad you had it, which which,
believe me, the kids today do have a leg up far,
far in excess of what previous generations have.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
But still we got to help them out when we can.
Speaker 9 (23:10):
And you're talking about the challenges, it's about going from
the military back into the civilian sector. Whether they have
a job lined up already, that's awesome because then they
kind of fit right in, But they and I'm.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Sure Bill could talk about this issue.
Speaker 9 (23:25):
It's not always as rosy as you think it might
be because you have this military mindset.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Wait a minute, where is my checklist? Right?
Speaker 4 (23:32):
You know the cheke list.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah, well, you're very focused in your duties.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
What you're doing.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
Is that what they call the three foot world where
it's like you're every day you know what you have
to do, but you get out and it's like you
may not die if you don't do anything for a
few days. But also you're just overwhelmed with all you know,
what should I do?
Speaker 9 (23:49):
I think so, I think that's been our experience. And
again I mentioned the Cornerstone program. If they bet Project
PR and our Project Recuperation Reintegration, it's a retreat, whether
it's at c I think two veterans days, we had
one hundred and thirty vets in their families go to
the Bahamas with us. We have them right there and
we just give them all kinds of information, opportunities to
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get massage, psychological therapy, benefits, info. It's just a really
awesome program because when somebody's coming out of the military
and they haven't they haven't assimilated yet, and then they
go on a PR and R retreat. They're going, yeah, yeah,
so it's really effective land based.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Same thing.
Speaker 9 (24:29):
Last Veterans Day we had about thirty vets in their families.
Try and always include the families because as you guys,
I'm sure no, just like in the real world, it's
not the individual. It's all the people that are around
us that are affected by our moods and temperaments and
you know, our pluses and minuses. We're all inter played,
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you know what I'm saying. So it's important to get
them plugged in to good information as quickly as we can.
But then again, and I'm kind of rambling here, but
I have a point. There was a Lieutenant Colonel gal
Oh garn I can't go. I don't want to take
somebody else's seat. No, there's people that need it more
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than I do. I said, you're being so selfish. What
do you mean I'm being selfless? I said, no, what
you have to share when you get in a room
with some of your brothers and sisters in arms, you
may affect somebody profoundly just by telling your story. So
got to keep an open mind. And that's what I
was mentioned to. It was one of you guys. Maybe
it was you Jerry that you just listen, you know,
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the guys and gals get back, open up your ears
and listening. You may not like what they're saying, sure,
but it's worth listening to. It helps them. It's therapeutic, you.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Know, with an officer like that because you know, in
the military, and this is just what I assume because
I am not military.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
But the people below him put him on a pedestal,
him or her on a pedestal. They look at.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Him as they should.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
It's kind of like what we do with pastors.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
But how many time do pastors just strip it down
and get real about what their fears are and who
they are and things like that.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
So they can't right and.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
They don't feel like they can and and it's got
to be in the proper format and proper setting and
all that stuff. And I would I would love to
for more of them to to to release that, because
if I'm hearing their struggle, that's why I like, yeah,
but that's why I like, I've been listening to uh
the Misfit Preachers with Tollyan and those guys, and I'm like,
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they give it gives credibility to everything. He's trying to do.
When I hear the struggles that they went through, the
failures they had, right, and a lot of times you
put an officer on that pedestal like he didn't have
fears and he didn't have failures. She didn't have this
or that, but they share it. Oh my gosh, imagine
the walls and the impact it has.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
On the people. On relatability, relatability and.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Garon, When, when and where did you serve?
Speaker 5 (26:59):
I was in the Air Force.
Speaker 9 (27:01):
I was a crew chief on one for ones, and
then I transferred to C fives and in nineteen eighty three,
if you're all familiar with our little Grenada escapade there,
got injured, got out, nineteen eighty seven, went back to school,
spent a little bit of time in corporate American Hornmale Foods,
Reveland Cosmetics, and then got into Veterans' advocacy, which is
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really you want to talk about my service the military.
It was during peacetime, and fortunately during that time period,
the Reagan era, we were building up, because when I
went in, it was decimated.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
You had Vietnam. We were driving around metros.
Speaker 9 (27:39):
These are the bands that go out onto the ramp
and take you out to your airplane.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
These things were junk.
Speaker 9 (27:46):
I mean, they wouldn't have been they wouldn't have been
roadworthy in the real world. And we're trying to operate
on something as simple as a metro that's so outdated
and so out of whack, and we're dealing with cannibalizing airplanes.
What that means is, let's say a C five, which
at the time was the largest bird in the air.
They have thirty five based at Travis Air Force Base.
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That's where I was based out of, and I've done
some service in other places. If one of them, well,
they have it planned routine depot maintenance, they bring it
in to a big hangar and they start cannibalizing. They
start leaving parts off of it to keep the rest
of the fleet flying because they don't have the parts.
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They Nobody had the foresight to say, wow, we're going
to need a lot of these parts and stuff. So
during the Reagan era, a lot of that was still
going on, and it made it rough because nobody wanted
to go back into the depot. Your bird is dead
for at least three months, probably up to six months,
and while it's keeping the rest of the fleet flying,
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it's just kind of a miserable Nobody was really happy.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Okay.
Speaker 9 (28:54):
We had a wonderful deputy commander maintenance who used to
bring the beer truck out to the hangar every once
in a while. Everybody loved that. You know, It's like, yes,
bring it out, we'll have we'll have some fun. And
that was the kind of relief that you had, you had.
I had a tdy to Elmandorf, Alaska because one of
the seafives, which is a monster plane, the nosegear collapsed
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and it just made a mess on the way there.
And that was my first td my first opportunity to
actually go out and see something else. And it was amazing,
you know, because we had we had moose coming across
the runway.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
They'd be out there running them away.
Speaker 9 (29:31):
It's a different kind of life based on the tempo
they have now. Okay, because during that period of time
when a route and of course Grenada, when those things
were taking place, we're very isolated.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Everybody had a part to play.
Speaker 9 (29:44):
I would say most every branch of service did, and
unfortunately I got injured. But when you talk about the
tempo that the kids I'm in, I'm sixty two, so
I can call them that the kids are dealing with today.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
That's bad. It's far worse.
Speaker 9 (30:03):
Than being not complacent, but just wondering what am I
going to do now because everything is kind of stagnant
in from seventy five to ninety kind of the forgotten military.
Well now we're just ringing them out. And in this
town we have two big National Guard units and their
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deployment tempo has been like back to back to back
for many many years. They were ringing them out. Why
because they had to augment the active force. Well do
you think now if active duty isn't getting the support
they need when they come back from their deployments, how
much less so are these National guardsmen? You know they're
weekend warriors. You know they'll take care of themselves. So
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it just compounds the compounds the problem. But answer your question,
I was in and then I, like I said, I
enjoyed my time.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
I learned a lot.
Speaker 9 (30:58):
You grow up, you know, an opportunity I ask on
American Warrior Radio any veteran that I have on, because
it's not just vets we have on. We want people
that are interesting and have a story to tell as
it relates to you know, our military and for the veterans,
would you advise? Oh, I have a quick story to share.
So one of the guys I just asked this last
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probably Sean Parnell, who is now the chief spokesman for
the Pentagon. He was on American Warrior REA. I actually
interviewed him what six seven years ago on AWR while
he was working for Concerned Veterans of America over in Orlando.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
And now and.
Speaker 9 (31:37):
I've represented before the VA and we won that case.
But now he's the spokesperson for the Pentagon, which I'm
really proud about that. But I remember asking him because
he's a gung ho, you know, retired captain and he's
got all kinds of credits to and two purple hearts,
all this stuff. Would you he's got kids, would you
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recommend military service to your kids? It's like putting them
on the spot. I get varied answers. The response can
be yeah, you know, it's always a little bit tepid.
I haven't heard anybody go yeah, I would. You know,
so that tells you a little something.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
What was your motivation to get involved to serve?
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (32:21):
Really, it's kind of been a family tradition. I had
one brother, that didn't serve, but everybody else pretty much
has from World War Two to Korea through Vietnam and
then my brothers. But I went to Southernllinois University for
one semester out of high school, and well, you guys
are all huge. It's like I'm sitting in amongst a
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football team here. I remember, I thought I was a
football player. I go into a walk on camp at
the big auditorium there. This is walking. These are guys
that are not going to make the team, right. I
walk in there and I'm looking up. Oh no, this is.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Not all of a sudden. All of a sudden things
got bigger faster.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Yeh. It's like okay, right a little bit too.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (33:04):
So from there and my studies, I just I wasn't
there yet. Yeah, So I figured, okay, I'll go in
the Air Force, keep my keep my butt safe, but
still do something productive, learn a skill. Of course, I
wanted to be a flight engineer and I wanted to
be on the flight deck, but I didn't have my
degree at that time. So going into crew chief, which
is basically at your bird. You know, you've got your
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name on the door, and anything that happens to it.
It's you're responsible, which for a kid, a nineteen twenty
year old kid, that's a lot of responsibility.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
They're still doing it today. Okay, make no mistake. You
see that.
Speaker 9 (33:38):
You look on a fighter jet even it'll have his
crew chief there. Huge responsibility. They're watched closely. But you
learn a lot you grow up. And that's why I
asked that question, would you recommend or suggest somebody going
to the military today?
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Well, my dad didn't like because I wanted to, like
I'm like nine to eleven era, right, and yeah, I
came home when I was all gung ho ready to
go and like.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Let's go do this, and uh, he didn't want that
for you. He was he knew where you'd be going.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
Yeah, he was ex marine like during that era, just
post Vietnam like you know, so he remembered all that
and he was like and fortunately I got the chance
to play football in college. And he was like, hey, listen,
like you're going to get a scholarship. I'll support you,
but the only way I'll support you is if you
go to college first, and he goes, because then he
can go to O c S.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
You can go do all these other things. Good and
playing a smart guy.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
He was like, but I do not want you over
there doing what I know you'll end up being done.
He goes, you're a big guy. They're going to hand
you a machine gun, and that's what your job is
going to be.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Like he go kill the enemy.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
Yeah, exactly. I thought I was gonna be a Navy
Seal sniper. Like that's what I wanted to do. He
was like, that's not how it's going to work.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Out, and that's the movie I want to I want
to be a I want to be a well that's
his seal.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
In the movies.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Remember the Charlie Remember the Charlie Sheen movie Navy Seals.
I wanted to be the guy I think he called
himself God and he sat up like he was like
he'd like had the thermal scope. And I was like,
that's what it'll be. Like I'll be hanging out on
top of buildings taking people out. But I mean it's
fifteen Like that's what you're that's what you visualize.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
That's not what war is.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Though they helped the recruiters, you know, love that that's
not true.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Oh yeah, because he jumps off the jeep.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
I was like, that's the guy, I want to be
jumping off the jeep on the bridge swimming over.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
You know, let me ask you. You give me some
of your testimony and some of the hardships you've gone
through in life.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
The faith walk. How tough is it?
Speaker 9 (35:27):
Well, there are chaplains if you want to. If you
want a chaplain, you can find one there. They're deployed, Yeah,
they're forward deployed. You know, they're not caring weapons and
that's you know, part of the part of the whole program.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
But they're there for the guys and gals that want to.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
How does that person that's active, that's out there doing
their job stay strong in faith in a military background
when you're out there.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Well, I can give you one story.
Speaker 9 (35:58):
Early on in a VET project, we hosted a PR
and R retreat with our director of counseling. Beautiful piece
of property on the Rogue River which is famous for
its fishing right there in southern Oregon, you know, beautiful place,
and we bring in about ten warriors. It was our
first one there and Joe Anne, who's Native American, she's
our director of counseling. Like I said, she's dealing with
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these young guns and they're fresh out. I think the
one I'm talking about here goes by his label named
Soldier Herd Jeff Barrelero. He was a tanker and he
through one of the sessions said you know what, Joanne.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
I can't I enjoyed killing. But guess what.
Speaker 9 (36:44):
Joanne wasn't taken aback for a second. She goes, well,
God makes warriors. You're a warrior, so she and it
kind of struck him like, wow, I really didn't expect
that everybody has a part to play. I know, if
it's more beneficial to have a deep seated faith before
you go in the military, because they may challenge that.
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You know, you may run up against, especially women guys
because they have a tough road to hoe. And we
were talking about boys Club earlier. You know, oh, come on,
it can be rough. I wouldn't want to be a woman.
Now it's gotten better, just like in the V eight
they've started to address women's issues. But if you have
a strong faith prior to going in the military, it's
probably going to be challenged just because of the the
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yuck that you're going to encounter, whether it's a young
man or a young female. If you don't have any faith,
I don't know that the military is a place where
you're going to grow.
Speaker 7 (37:41):
It When you say it's going to be challenges it
challenged by other people or just by the circumstances and
the death and all the things that you see.
Speaker 9 (37:50):
I think you just said it all those check all
those boxes.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
But certainly, you know.
Speaker 9 (37:56):
People have a big part to play in the development
of any kind of military member. You can have good people,
just like you can have good bosses out here, people
that want to encourage you to take their job. You know,
that's probably on the lower end of the scale than
the ones that are power hungry and want to get
their rank next and you know see you as in
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their way.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
But when it.
Speaker 9 (38:19):
Comes to faith every I think on base right now,
there's a South chapel, and there's a main chapel. There's
I think five different denominations represented. We're talking about Patrick
Space Force Base, almost at Air Force Base, and it's there,
it's available. But I don't see them reaching out. I
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don't see them making a real strong, concerted effort in
any branch of the military to say, hey, let's have
just come in and have a meal with us and
let us share some stuff with you. You go to
any of the academies, the Air Force Academy, the West
Point Annapolis. Oh yeah, you're going to church. You know
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you're going to be You're going to have that opportunity
to go to chapel because it's just part of bringing
up you know, proper officer. But in the active duty ranks,
in the enlisted ranks.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
Probably not so much.
Speaker 9 (39:14):
So Yeah, I think it's I think there's a challenge
that's something that they could address.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
You know.
Speaker 9 (39:19):
That's why I want to see impact warriors grow. We
don't need to get huge. I just want people to
get the word out. There's a place where you can
go learn about what God can do in your life
and share some stories and be relatable to other bets.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Tell us.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
How God's worked in your life to overcome I know,
I know your I know the biggest thing and if
you want to share it, this grade, but tell us
tell us how you were able to over how you've
been able to overcome and you ever come after your
active duty time. But I would love to hear the
depth of this because these.
Speaker 9 (39:56):
Two guys either coming from a breakfast we had or
maybe I shared some yeah impact. Yeah, well everybody has
their challenges, right, But God's always been, always had a.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Place in my heart. I've always known Jesus.
Speaker 9 (40:10):
I wasn't baptized until nineteen ninety one, and I remember
the little church. I can't remember the name of it,
but I know exactly where it's at. It may not
even be a church anymore, but it was important for
me to get baptized because I knew I needed to
do that up till that point. Is that story I've
told you a little bit about. It was just a
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horrific scene with an ex wife and what happened was
had a beautiful boy, and she began poisoning him, just
horrible against me because we had I was done with her,
and as she used him as a tool, And so
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I can That's as close as I can get to
knowing that I was a deep believer in Christ, knowing
after that I was less so because I was so angry.
I remember coming out of it was in Seattle. I
was coming out of a particular court hearing. I'm not
going to go into the details, just imagine the worst.
And I'm on my motorcycle. It's raining out and I'm
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driving down I five and I couldn't even tell that
it was raining because I was crying someone. I was
just bawling and I had to pull over. And Okay,
the next time God appeared in my life, same motorcycle.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
I was being a.
Speaker 9 (41:32):
Dork and popped a wheelie in front of some girls
driving in the car and boom, guy flipped his lights
on and I told him what was going on with me,
and he let me off and I said, thank you God.
So then I knew God was still there. But that's
the long and short of it. Okay, God's always been
with me. I got baptized, I guess kind of late.
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And then you know, I've got thirty two now years
with this wonderful woman that I'm married to, Kim. She's
the biggest blessing God's ever brought into my life.
Speaker 5 (42:04):
By far.
Speaker 9 (42:04):
Yes, And when he says she runs, he's not joking.
She's the brains behind it and the driving force. But
it just shows the magnificence of God. And just like
every morning I wake up, I just have that moment
and I just let him know. And I again, it's
probably more selfish. It's just me needing to express to him,
you know how awesome he is. So God's played a
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huge part in my life. Ever since, we've had some
real good connections with pastors I've been.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
I've had some really awesome pastors.
Speaker 9 (42:36):
John Corson Applegate Christian Fellowship, one of Chuck Smith's disciples,
amazing teaching even here on the Space Coast with the
East Coast Christian Center with Dan Stallbaum before he retired.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
You talked about it.
Speaker 9 (42:49):
It's that relatability when a pastor can come out there
and their own foibles and their own trials, and.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
It's just, man, I need that, I need to know,
I need to know more about you. I need to
know more about you you because it helps me.
Speaker 6 (43:02):
I think that's one of the big things with Impact
is like number one is you know, we're talking about
our Veterans program, right like, we identify very quickly who
we can relate to, and if we can't do it,
we find a guy that can exactly and we got
one in there that'll.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
Do it right.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
But then we also have people that have such different
stories across the board that we can find somebody that
not only has probably been in your situation, but can
relate to the situation you're exactly in today, so that
there's no condemnation, there's no you can truly talk on
a level.
Speaker 9 (43:32):
Right.
Speaker 6 (43:32):
It's like if you're dealing with PTSD, that that's a
big spectrum. Man like you could be the guy that
was in the hummer that got blown up, or it
could be the guy that was putting them back together.
And those are two different perspectives and they're very other
guy that was taking the lives of other humans or
the one that was exactly And that's a hard thing
that I mean, you can have to compartmentalize to do that,
and then when you come back to the real world,
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the real world says that's not a good thing, that's
not acceptable.
Speaker 9 (43:58):
Same thing can happen in the military, can happen in
any career field. Things can happen external influences. That's why
to have a center, to have the center being God
is super important. I don't proselytize AVT project doesn't.
Speaker 5 (44:14):
We don't talk about Jesus.
Speaker 9 (44:16):
We have prayer, you know, we open everything and and
you were invited, but you didn't make it because you
were busy, which you know you're Does everybody know how busy.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
Is I think I was out of town that night.
Speaker 5 (44:27):
Okay, that day but.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
I asked for the raincheck. Bro God, I got the
rain check.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
Call you got it.
Speaker 9 (44:34):
So we we introduced God and we're there and we're available,
and we have people that can talk much more learnedly.
If that's a word, then I can about the Bible.
I love the Bible and I read it and I
have devotions around the house that I go through every day.
But at the PR and R Retreat, just like, we
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don't talk politics.
Speaker 5 (44:55):
We don't let them drink booze.
Speaker 9 (44:57):
Okay you can, you've got three days, you can go
without it, right, We're here to focus on a mission
and get things done on you. Yeah yeah, So no politics,
no booze, no uh, proselytizing, But is there if anybody,
and you'd be amazed often and they'll find their little
subgroup you start talking.
Speaker 6 (45:15):
Find it's a good idea, right because you need to
have if you I mean, let's face it, like religious organizations,
we get a bad name, right and when you start
making that the center of everything, like you would, you
would turn guys and women off. They wouldn't come because
they're like, well, I don't want to get preached that.
I want to talk about my issue. But then having
an impact group that's a partner alongside. It's like, hey,
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they want to know more, Like here's here's the guy,
like call this one, you know, yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Give us the the a VET what you can do
for someone that needs some help and elevator speech.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
The elevator speech with the how to get ahold of you.
Speaker 5 (45:51):
It's really easy.
Speaker 9 (45:52):
Everybody a ve e T dash project dot o RG,
a VET dashproject dot org. You go to that website
and again this is constructed by my wife. She's a magician.
Everything that we do you can see all right. You
can click on events. It's going to show you some
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historical photographs. You can go, oh, yeah, I can see that.
Oh there's a pr and arbitry. Oh there's the first
Female Veterans Day celebration. Now that's not Veterans Day. This
is to celebrate female veterans. Was about three years ago
that Kim put together at the Nomiinami room at Bavard Zoo.
We were hoping on hopefully fifty people, had about seventy
five people show up. Then it grew to aden one
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hundred and twenty five. Now we have to move it.
So this coming flag, I think it's June twelfth, we're
going to celebrate the female veterans here in Bavard at
the Holiday and Convention Center off of five twenty. If
you want to get involved, see a little bit about
what we do and see the impact of bringing women together.
Just to women, men are welcome. Please buy tickets guys
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and just see how it moves them and move them
together and more closely. It's pretty, it's wild. That's just
one one opportunity. A Vett dashproject dot org. Also American
Warrior Radio show. Eve been doing it. Avett Project was
founded in two thousand and nine, so what's that sixteen years.
Speaker 5 (47:16):
The following year.
Speaker 9 (47:17):
We started on Trestal Radio with American Warrior Radio and
we've been doing it. Took some hiatus on both fronts
for a number of years for a number of different reasons,
but we're out there. The information is at avetdashproject dot org.
Even if it's something as simple as wanting some background
on a do it yourself claim boom very well laid
(47:38):
out and.
Speaker 5 (47:40):
Things like this.
Speaker 9 (47:41):
Partnering with other like minded groups I love, Obviously, I'm
all about faith based partnerships. We have to be careful
because we don't want to alienate. We want to invite
them in and if it kind of organically grows and
it works, yeah, that's fine. But we're not going to
be out there saying, well, support Tim Thomas because he's
a vent and he's running for you know, Florida State Center.
Speaker 5 (48:04):
We can't do that. We don't want to do that.
Speaker 9 (48:06):
You know, we don't want to say up, come come
to Jesus, come here and we'll help you out with
your faith walk.
Speaker 5 (48:11):
No, we want to open the door, bring them in.
Speaker 9 (48:14):
And the easiest way for anybody to find out more
about that avetdaeshproject dot org or go to American Warrior
Radio Show on YouTube. Get involved, help us help them,
whether it's volunteering for one of the events. We need
people for the Female Veterans Day celebration. You know, you
always find a place to plug somebody in. And then,
of course money is always important because we can't do
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these things alone. And that's why it's really special to
partnership with you, Trey and Impact and Impact Warriors to
get the word out because this dude, Matthew West amazing,
amazing and it's going to be an awesome night. I've
been to the others you've invited me. Thank you for that.
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And it's just what you're putting together here the Grace experience.
Really looking forward to it. And have a VETT Project
alongside or as part of that is really special.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
Great segue bro uh we uh I May thirty.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
First, we're going to be teaming up with a VET
Project and Amigos and Cristo. That's our first foreign mission
uh organization that we're working with raising awareness and funds.
And this guy, Matthew West, five time Grammy nominated Christian
Artists singer songwriter, is going to join and I might
have a special speaker guest that might be joining us,
so I'm working on that now. You can get your
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tickets at Kingcenter dot com, go to our website that
links there to at Impactmanistries dot org and we want
to hear from you. Click on the Brotherhood Support Network
link listen to one O six point three because one
O six point three hope one O six point three
giving away tickets as well. Our friend Eric's going to
be joining us probably within the coming weeks to promote
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their station. Also, lastly, the Impact Warriors Project we meet
every third two day of the month at the Freedom
Boat club right out front of Grill's Riverside. Our friend
Joe and Chris from Grills have donated that space for
us to get together. We would love for you to
come peel back the layers, get real about who we
are as men and understand who God says we are
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as a children. So, uh, it's been a joy having you, Garin,
thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (50:23):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
He's all right, so but we will uh well, we
will circle back up with some of the other amazing
things to talk about in the coming weeks.
Speaker 4 (50:33):
Until then, I'm Trey, I'm Brad, I'm Jeremy.
Speaker 5 (50:35):
This is Garon Cone with Project and we are the.
Speaker 4 (50:41):
You know, this might be the first episode without a
cuss word in a long time.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
He did reference Hell on Earth, which yeah, he spelled ho.
Is that is that?
Speaker 5 (50:51):
What that? That's not?
Speaker 4 (50:52):
What that means?
Speaker 1 (50:53):
What we call people host Hell on Eric Hell
Yo, what are you doing right now? We are gonna get.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Real about men's issues, who Jesus is and who we
are as men in Christ. We're gonna hear Trey, Jeremy,
Michael and Brad break it down. These guys call themselves
the cussin Christians. All right, guys, what is going on?
So we think the driver's gone.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Dude, your drivers out my uh my freezer on refrigerator.
Freezer opened it up and there were icicles coming down
the front.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
On the the ice maker leaks.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
So the icemaker leaks, that's fixable.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Maybe, well, it's already been fixed once. I had a
brand new ice maker put in six months ago.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So yep.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
And I'm just kind of over the door.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Dispensers of ice water because it's just a mess and
it starts looking crappy, and so I I think I'm.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Gonna go get a new one tomorrow, holding fridge on
new fridge?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Sweet?
Speaker 5 (01:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Don how old is your one now?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Ten?
Speaker 6 (01:06):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Because technology has changed.
Speaker 7 (01:08):
Now you can like connect it to your phone and
for whatever reason, whatever you want to do.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
That's that's all I want to do, is connect more things.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
To my phone. Bro, check on the status for your
ice makers through your phone.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, unlocked my front door. Help with my garage door
all that.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
I don't have any of that kitchen.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
I don't have keys. You don't have keys to your house? No,
you got keys here? And I have keys. There's two keys,
well three.
Speaker 6 (01:32):
That one goes to my uh locked to the lock
box that I have that has a gun in it.
This one is to my mailbox, and this was to
my truck.
Speaker 8 (01:41):
Okay, well biometrics for the gunlocked gun safe.
Speaker 7 (01:45):
See, I need to get that kind of I need
a biometric thing on the freezer. So the kids, you know,
they they're up at night, down they're cooking pizza and stuff.
They sed a thumbprint, like you can't get in there,
you're locked out?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
There you go, it'd be sweet.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
We'll take They probably have it. It's probably available.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
What happened to the days? I mean, you grew up
in small town America?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Yeah? Right?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Did you even lock your door when you're growing up?
I remember, I remember us. It wasn't a big thing.
Make Sharon lock the door. It just wasn't a thing.
I don't even know my neighbors.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I got an older couple across the street that I
just befriended because she he fell one day and she
asked me to come help him off the floor, and that's.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
How I met him.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
And and there are the only people I talked to.
But everybody else in my neighborhood, I have no clue
who they are.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
Yeah, I know a handful of them, but my immediate
neighbors I only know the name of one, and I
know that's terrible, but like, I.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Just gone to those days. Man.
Speaker 7 (02:42):
For about ten years, we lived we have a condo
Cocoa Beach, and we were living there and so we
know the neighbors right and left of us, but there's
people that are always renting, so there's always strangers around,
you don't know. There was one night we were sitting
and we're eating dinner, and you know, we can look
right out to the boardwalk that goes out to the
beach where bottom floor, and these two dudes were walking
up the boardwalk and my wife says, oh, I saw
(03:03):
these guys earlier today.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
And I'm like, Okay.
Speaker 7 (03:05):
One dude turns a corner and he's he only has
one arm, like from the shoulder, and he's just like
no arm. I'm like, oh, that's interesting. I wonder, you
know what his story is. They walked around, didn't think
anything about it, and about you know, several hours later,
we're watching TV around eight o'clock at night, and I
hear the toilet upstairs flush. It's like a split level
type thing and you have to go upstairs to get
to the front door.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I hear the toilet flush, and.
Speaker 7 (03:27):
I'm like, well, my son's gone, Like is there any
chance the toilet could have flushed itself?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Like, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
You think weird things got you got a critter in
your house? It's ah, so.
Speaker 7 (03:38):
Yeah, So I knew none of my kids were up there.
So I get up there and I walk up there
and I turned the corner and the you know, the
bathroom door's open. There's the one armed guy standing in
my bathroom. He's looking in the mirror. He's like he's
doing something like hey man, and he looks at me
and he's like shocked.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
He's like oh.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
He kind of jumps back because he was a little dude,
but you know, he has one arm. I'm like, hey man,
so I think you're in the wrong place. He goes
what he goes I thought was five oh four and
I'm like, you're on the wrong place, dude, and I'm like,
let's go.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I opened the door and he's like, oh, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I'm so sorry he was, but.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
Like we didn't hear him come in because like our dog,
our dog hears everything and barks if anybody comes in there.
So after that, I was much more vigilant about monitoring
the door, keeping it. Lock it at night anyway, but
we just didn't lock it in the evening when our
kids are coming and going. But yeah, the one armed
guy in the bathroom story is always all get tell.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
My wife call comes into my office last week and
we had football stuff going on. She was like, hey,
you know, like the oven, we can hook it up
to our phones, right, I was again, and it's hooked
up to mine, but we've never used it, right because
I was like, we should probably try that while we're
home before we like decide to try that when we're
at the football field. Like, let's let's make sure we
(04:50):
know how to work that thing.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
You said, the oven, Mm hmm. Cool. So well you
can like remotely start it and yeah, like.
Speaker 6 (04:56):
If you want to like preheat the oven, you can
put it on the smart mote or whatever, and then
you just preheated on the way home.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
That's cool, but who needs that?
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Not me?
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Me?
Speaker 9 (05:05):
You got your you got your appliances, you got your
TV watching you when you don't think it is.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Yeah, I don't trust any of it.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
I've just given up on the fact that you're all
just fooling yourselves. You think they don't know already. I
went through the entire Newark Airport the other day on
facial recognition. Didn't even get an id out.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah, as last time I flew a few weeks ago,
I'd never pulled out my driver's.
Speaker 9 (05:23):
Lo which is nice coming through customs. You know, you
don't have to deal with it just in your face,
which is sweet.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Hey, we're missing brother Michael today. Michael left four days
ago to head up to Kentucky. He is serving.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I mean, it is his job.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
But with those storms that went through in Kentucky last week, Uh,
there's a lot of devastation.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
I'd be with them.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Yeah, well, you have baseball sized hail.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
He had pictures of front yards that looked like it
was snow stacked up, and the damage to windows and
cars and homes and roofs was awful and Michael, God
bless you. You and your team are going to be
up there for a few weeks. It sounds like to
to sort through all the insurance claims to help those
(06:10):
people out. So I know he's going to look for
an opportunity to share Jesus with everybody he can, and
in spite of the fact that he's so far away
from his wife and we want him back here.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
But he's doing great, great work there. I just hope
he's careful which Pentecostal church he goes to.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Do you see Michael dancing in the aisle bro I'm
talking about the snake ones, all the snake ones. That's right.
They are there. Yeah, well crazy a little bit south
of the Owensboro, but yeah, they are out there. Well
I grew up not far.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
From but you know, we had Gary, I'm sorry. We
had Bill on on the podcast a couple.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Of weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
And mister Tod mister Toady, which his story is a
great his salvation story. His mission in life now is
to help local veterans out. And another person that I
got introduced to the past year and a half through
our friend Tim Thomas.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
As we were seems like it's been longer than no.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
No, dude, it is crazy, right.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
But as if you don't know the story of our
Impact Warriors initiative, we work with a lot of men
that might be going through depression and suicidal thoughts, you know,
and threats and things like that. And there was a
couple of years ago a couple of young veterans came
into our life where we counseled with them with others.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
And it just it just stirred me so much.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
And as I started talking to Tim getting the numbers,
the you know, suicides for veterans is twenty two a day,
and we talked about that with Bill. The challenges of
coming back and adjusting back into civilian life, from just
reconnecting with your family to paperwork, bureaucracy you got to
(07:55):
do to get your benefits, to just confusion, not knowing
how having anybody to relate to, because when you're in
the military and you're going away for eighteen months or
however long your deployment is, you're speaking a certain language.
When you come back, they struggle sometimes just having conversations
with their own family members. And Tim brought garon Cohne
into my life, and uh, we've been kind of attached
(08:16):
at the hip on some of these veterans things. And
he worked you Gary, you work with an amazing Well
you're the founder and want to say your wife's the
head honcho, but you're you're the hired helt. I'm just uh,
but Garan's with the a VET Project right here Brevard County,
and we're going to be teaming up with the a
(08:36):
VET Project as part of our military initiative and awareness
campaign for OOPS, the Matthew West event.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
We're going to have it here in two months.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
So it's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Man.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I appreciate you coming out just sitting in with us.
This uh, this uh is cool. I've been on your
podcast about a year.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Maryland Warrior Radio. American Warrior Radio actually did a good job.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I did.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Yeah, wow, well hey good a.
Speaker 9 (08:59):
Vet American veterans. Here's the key empowerment other key team.
We're a team American Veterans empowerment team. And because of him,
I've been able to reach even more people. And you're
talking about impact Warriors. Tell tell the viewers and the listeners.
You started to say how you got this going? But
(09:20):
why because you're not a bet yourself.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
No, I'm not a VET. None of us are vets.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
But it struck me with this veteran named Evan, who
was a Navy Corman.
Speaker 9 (09:35):
Dude, Like I'm saying, by this guy, he's like a tree.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Yeah when when when I met him, he's he's two inches.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Taller than me. And just so, he didn't work on
the sub No, he was.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
He was a medic for the with the Marines, going
out in the field and putting bodies back together.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And he's he shared some of the horrific things that
he experienced and when he came back to Revard, he
didn't know how to relate. He tried to fill himself,
you know, he couldn't reconnect with his wife, his child.
He he he started trying to fill himself with satisfaction,
(10:16):
but going the strip joints and drinking a lot, doing
some drugs, and he just spiraled out of control to
where I got the call from Hudson and Gary Miracle. Hey,
we need to talk to this guy and put our
arms around him. He had his nine millimeters in his
mouth this morning and we were able.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
To talk him out of it.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
And it just I don't know, it struck me with
this guy and talking with him, garn and you can, man,
I want you to give your experience in working with
veterans in a.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Lot bigger volume way than me.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
It touched my heart so much that these, however, many
hundreds of thousands of people that go through the military millions,
they're disconnected with their own country somehow, and a lot
of times when they come back home and how we Jacob,
one of our brothers that joined our military group for
a while, the Warriors, he said, I came back and
(11:13):
my parents don't even want to talk to me about
what I did, and I need to flush this out,
but it's all superficial. I can't really talk to them
that well. They just want to push it. They just
know that I went to Iraq somewhere, but they don't
want to know any more than that. And it's a disconnect.
And with Evan, it was it got to the point
where his wife left him, took the baby, and they
(11:35):
moved to North Carolina or South Carolina, North Carolina, and
he just spiraled out of control and don't want to
I don't even want to be here anymore, and was
about to take his life before Hudson.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
And them intervene, and it just breaks my heart that.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I'm free to sit here and say whatever I want
on this microphone for the world to hear because of
their efforts, Yet they don't get the credit when they
come back. What do you see what guys coming back
man from.
Speaker 9 (12:03):
Definitely, definitely a disconnect. You've become a regimented machine.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
You're a gi government issue.
Speaker 9 (12:09):
You do what you're told when you're told to do it,
and you do it the best you can when you
come back and whether that's six months, a year, multiple deployments.
I know a kernel hast done fourteen combat deployments. Now
tell me that's not going to twist your brain. Sure,
but in the case of people like Evan, it's about
reintegration and that's one of our core programs pr and
(12:31):
R Project Recuperation and Reintegration. They don't have the touchstones
that they did. They've lost that sense of family, that
brotherhood sisterhood of being in the military, and when they
come back, like you just laid it out there, even
their own family members may not even want to engage,
let alone know how.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
And that's probably as much of the issue as anything.
It's like as a parent, you start to hear the
stories and you're hearing your son know I was in Iraq. Well,
now you have to picture what they pictured in your mind.
Speaker 9 (13:01):
And start by listening. Yeah, just open your ears and
let them talk if they want to talk. A lot
of them don't want to talk. A lot of them
become disconnected with God, whether they've known, whether they've had
a belief in Jesus Christ prior to or maybe they've
lost that based on things they've experienced and seen or
done themselves. So there's a whole lot of different challenges,
(13:24):
and Impact Warriors is like there's plenty of Bible studies.
Impact Warriors is not a Bible study in the classical sense.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
It's an opportunity.
Speaker 9 (13:36):
You bring it every third Tuesday of every month.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
You have the topic set up, but we don't always
follow those.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
It's more of it's like anything we do with our
regular impact. We yield to the brother the needs yielding too,
right exactly, and they need more of that well. And
I think it was so important with Evan, and Evan's
got a great ending to his story, by the way,
because he's reconciled with his wife.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
The actually another child.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
He went to North Carolina and he's living with them
he came to our church and some of our men's
groups and functions and breakfasts and things like that.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
I don't think i've seen him for over a year now, dude.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yeah, and he's just a delightful young man. And I
can't imagine what he saw. He shared with me some things.
But this is where I struggled with Evan. Okay, and Gart.
I've shared this with Garn and Tim and others. I'm
(14:34):
great at coming alongside and put more arm around you,
talking about Jesus with you, but I don't talk military sure.
And that's where when I was trying to talk with Evan,
I could feel it and I sensed it he has
I'm not connecting with him in as deep a way
as I want. So that's when I called Tim Thomas
and I said, man, I'm not sure what this is
(14:56):
going to look like, but it might be the most
important thing we've ever done. I want to start as small,
but I need military guys and I'll organize it, maybe
lead a discussion or two, but I need to turn
it over to where a military guy that stroke can
look at another military guy and bring it. And so
I think I have every branch of the military represented
(15:17):
and except for the Coast Guard. So if you're a
Coast Guard guy and you want to join us, please
give me a call. Force, Space Force and Space Force. Yeah,
I still haven't made this. That's an additional thing, Space Force,
Air Force, UH, Army Navy Marines.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
But so I got this. What the sound like?
Speaker 5 (15:38):
I haven't heard?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Are the Stars the Star Wars?
Speaker 6 (15:47):
Well, I don't know if it would be Star Wars
because they were based off of the Nazis.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Really the Stormtroopers, and I had no call.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
How about Star Trek.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Today?
Speaker 9 (15:58):
But well, they've got the emblem right. Their logo very
much resembles START. That is true, But we got it
right over here Patrick Space for Space.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
It wasn't that logo designed years ago.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
I thought that logo is like, has it been around
for forty years or something like?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It goes way back. It wasn't something they just came
up with.
Speaker 9 (16:16):
Possibly I'm not familiar.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
It is a cool logo. I do like it.
Speaker 9 (16:21):
It's just that you always think a star director see it,
which is fine because they're doing a very important mission.
But guys talking about this mission impact Warriors. We got
to grow this. Everybody out there that's watching this and
listening to this. You got to get this word out.
If you are a veteran or even active duty. We
got active duty guys, oh yeah, yeah, all from nine
(16:42):
to twenty rescuing. You got to get plugged in. And
if you know somebody that's struggling and they don't have
some place to go where it's safe and they can
talk to other people that will relate to them, perfect opportunity.
Because I look at it when you can correct me
if this doesn't work nomenclature wise. More of a support group,
the Christian based support group.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, well yeah, and absolutely it. Like you said, when
I started to impact in sixteen, I went to my wife.
I said, I want to get some guys together, and
she said, oh, you want to do a Bible study?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
And I went, no, Bible is going to be a
big part of it.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
But I've got three Bible studies I'm going to now.
But I wanted a place where men could come get real,
share their fears, share their you know, what hurts them,
share their frustrations, share their glorious things, and you know.
And and it kind of went over into the military
piece because Evan had no joy. Evan had no hope,
(17:40):
and then all of a sudden, we started planning the
seas of Jesus in his brain and his heart started
taking off. And you know, I want to Guaran to
be on because what he deals with day in day
out with veterans, their struggles and getting things. I just
wanted to pick his brain about seventy five thousand veterans
our county alone.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Am I right?
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Is that? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (18:02):
It could be. That's a good number. Yeah, and that's
just veterans. You got the active duty component, a National Guard,
like you said, Coastguard lots.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
So you know in our counties eight hundred thousand people
or so, so you look at one in ten people
that you run it. Yeah, they're military for sure. And
tell us about some of the challenges that you have
to address with these guys and girls and our ladies
and gentlemen.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
There runs the gamut. It really does.
Speaker 9 (18:29):
Predominantly aside from every other issue they might be facing.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
They want to get back here.
Speaker 9 (18:35):
They've heard of this whole VA claim or maybe VA
health insurance. Okay, because again, coming from the military, everything's provided.
You know, you know where you're going to eat, you
know where you're going to sleep, everything's done. It's then
you're thrown out into the civilian world again and they
hear these things, I got to get plugged into the VA.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Well, the VA is a monstrous machine.
Speaker 9 (18:57):
Oh yeah, Anything you ever wanted to know about the
VA is right there at VA dot gov. It's an
ocean of information everything you want to That hard there.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Very very hard to navigate.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
That's just it.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (19:10):
You know, so somebody, whether they're even somewhat versed in
military issues, because you've got Title thirty eight, which governs
the VA, you got Title ten, which governs active duty,
they may know Title ten. I mean, let's hope they
haven't come across the UCMJ. That's where you get in trouble.
That section of the code addresses that, so they may
have some familiarity. But the Transition Assistance program that was
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pioneered back in the early nineties, I had a very
tiny part in that in the San Diego area. The
emphasis was to educate them about what's going to take
place once they leave service, and one of those primarily
is getting plugged into your benefits, whether it's healthcare or
whether it's VA benefits. If something happened to you while
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you're on active duty. In other words, you you came in,
you were presumed to be of sound mind and body.
If you had a pre existing condition, you may or
may not have gotten in, so you're healthy. When you
get in. They do their intake physical so then you serve.
Maybe it's two years, maybe it's four, maybe it's twenty,
and things happen over that period of time, especially when
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you're in the military. I shouldn't say especially because you
could be working for IBM. If you fell off a
ladder and you weren't drunk, you were on the job,
you're going to get workers comp so VA compensation disability
compensation is basically an implied workers comp agreement with the
government standing by their warriors, saying this happened because you
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were serving your country, and it's going to be with
you can't be acute and transitory. It's got to be
something that is really going to be a chronic problem.
We're going to help you out, whether it's compensation or
immediate enrollment in healthcare. They come out not really knowing
any of this because the TAP program Transition assistance program
has started off strong, and it's just kind of like
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so many things, you know, good intentions but it's not
where it needs to be. And here we are in
twenty twenty five. These kids have more opportunity, more educational
opportunity than ever before. All right, I'm the forgotten generation
from I was in from eighty to eighty seven. From
nineteen seventy five to nineteen ninety, there was nothing.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
There's the door.
Speaker 9 (21:26):
I got medically discharged after Urgent Fury and Grenada.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
There's the door. You're out of here.
Speaker 9 (21:32):
So the Vietnam era folks, they got their GI Bill.
There were other benefits that were payable, you know, free education.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
That's awesome. Would have love that. I had VEEP.
Speaker 9 (21:42):
Veterans Educational Assistance Program, which is for every two dollars
you put in, the government put in a dollar. It's
like a little savings account, and then it was taxed
also at the end of it all. But so for
that period of time, there was nothing. Since that, since
PGW one, the benefits have grown exponential, so they have
they don't know what they you know, didn't have, so
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they know what they've got.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
But it's still there's that connection. You're talking about.
Speaker 9 (22:10):
Leaving military service and coming back out into the civilian
sector presents all kinds of challenges, whether it's familial, nobody's
relating to you. You know a lot of guys and
gals will go to the vfw's or the American Legion
post just to try and strike that up. Well, guess what,
that's not really happening either, because you've got another general
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even my generation and older that are not accepting. They're
not welcoming them in as much as they could for sure,
so they're they're left dangling again.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Why is that?
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Is it like there is like the old timer go
dudes are sitting around and they're going, who's this? Yeah,
they're not going to fit in here? I mean, is
it kind of the mentality old boy?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
The old boy thing?
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
It was rougher my day type things that don't tell.
Speaker 8 (22:56):
Me you don't know how bad you had it, which which,
believe me, the kids today do have a leg up far,
far in excess of what previous generations have.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
But still we got to help them out when we can.
Speaker 9 (23:10):
And you're talking about the challenges, it's about going from
the military back into the civilian sector. Whether they have
a job lined up already, that's awesome because then they
kind of fit right in, But they and I'm.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Sure Bill could talk about this issue.
Speaker 9 (23:25):
It's not always as rosy as you think it might
be because you have this military mindset.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
Wait a minute, where is my checklist? Right?
Speaker 4 (23:32):
You know the cheke list.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah, well, you're very focused in your duties.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
What you're doing.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
Is that what they call the three foot world where
it's like you're every day you know what you have
to do, but you get out and it's like you
may not die if you don't do anything for a
few days. But also you're just overwhelmed with all you know,
what should I do?
Speaker 9 (23:49):
I think so, I think that's been our experience. And
again I mentioned the Cornerstone program. If they bet Project
PR and our Project Recuperation Reintegration, it's a retreat, whether
it's at c I think two veterans days, we had
one hundred and thirty vets in their families go to
the Bahamas with us. We have them right there and
we just give them all kinds of information, opportunities to
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get massage, psychological therapy, benefits, info. It's just a really
awesome program because when somebody's coming out of the military
and they haven't they haven't assimilated yet, and then they
go on a PR and R retreat. They're going, yeah, yeah,
so it's really effective land based.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Same thing.
Speaker 9 (24:29):
Last Veterans Day we had about thirty vets in their families.
Try and always include the families because as you guys,
I'm sure no, just like in the real world, it's
not the individual. It's all the people that are around
us that are affected by our moods and temperaments and
you know, our pluses and minuses. We're all inter played,
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you know what I'm saying. So it's important to get
them plugged in to good information as quickly as we can.
But then again, and I'm kind of rambling here, but
I have a point. There was a Lieutenant Colonel gal
Oh garn I can't go. I don't want to take
somebody else's seat. No, there's people that need it more
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than I do. I said, you're being so selfish. What
do you mean I'm being selfless? I said, no, what
you have to share when you get in a room
with some of your brothers and sisters in arms, you
may affect somebody profoundly just by telling your story. So
got to keep an open mind. And that's what I
was mentioned to. It was one of you guys. Maybe
it was you Jerry that you just listen, you know,
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the guys and gals get back, open up your ears
and listening. You may not like what they're saying, sure,
but it's worth listening to. It helps them. It's therapeutic, you.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Know, with an officer like that because you know, in
the military, and this is just what I assume because
I am not military.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
But the people below him put him on a pedestal,
him or her on a pedestal. They look at.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Him as they should.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
It's kind of like what we do with pastors.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
But how many time do pastors just strip it down
and get real about what their fears are and who
they are and things like that.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
So they can't right and.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
They don't feel like they can and and it's got
to be in the proper format and proper setting and
all that stuff. And I would I would love to
for more of them to to to release that, because
if I'm hearing their struggle, that's why I like, yeah,
but that's why I like, I've been listening to uh
the Misfit Preachers with Tollyan and those guys, and I'm like,
(26:34):
they give it gives credibility to everything. He's trying to do.
When I hear the struggles that they went through, the
failures they had, right, and a lot of times you
put an officer on that pedestal like he didn't have
fears and he didn't have failures. She didn't have this
or that, but they share it. Oh my gosh, imagine
the walls and the impact it has.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
On the people. On relatability, relatability and.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Garon, When, when and where did you serve?
Speaker 5 (26:59):
I was in the Air Force.
Speaker 9 (27:01):
I was a crew chief on one for ones, and
then I transferred to C fives and in nineteen eighty three,
if you're all familiar with our little Grenada escapade there,
got injured, got out, nineteen eighty seven, went back to school,
spent a little bit of time in corporate American Hornmale Foods,
Reveland Cosmetics, and then got into Veterans' advocacy, which is
(27:25):
really you want to talk about my service the military.
It was during peacetime, and fortunately during that time period,
the Reagan era, we were building up, because when I
went in, it was decimated.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
You had Vietnam. We were driving around metros.
Speaker 9 (27:39):
These are the bands that go out onto the ramp
and take you out to your airplane.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
These things were junk.
Speaker 9 (27:46):
I mean, they wouldn't have been they wouldn't have been
roadworthy in the real world. And we're trying to operate
on something as simple as a metro that's so outdated
and so out of whack, and we're dealing with cannibalizing airplanes.
What that means is, let's say a C five, which
at the time was the largest bird in the air.
They have thirty five based at Travis Air Force Base.
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That's where I was based out of, and I've done
some service in other places. If one of them, well,
they have it planned routine depot maintenance, they bring it
in to a big hangar and they start cannibalizing. They
start leaving parts off of it to keep the rest
of the fleet flying because they don't have the parts.
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They Nobody had the foresight to say, wow, we're going
to need a lot of these parts and stuff. So
during the Reagan era, a lot of that was still
going on, and it made it rough because nobody wanted
to go back into the depot. Your bird is dead
for at least three months, probably up to six months,
and while it's keeping the rest of the fleet flying,
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it's just kind of a miserable Nobody was really happy.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Okay.
Speaker 9 (28:54):
We had a wonderful deputy commander maintenance who used to
bring the beer truck out to the hangar every once
in a while. Everybody loved that. You know, It's like, yes,
bring it out, we'll have we'll have some fun. And
that was the kind of relief that you had, you had.
I had a tdy to Elmandorf, Alaska because one of
the seafives, which is a monster plane, the nosegear collapsed
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and it just made a mess on the way there.
And that was my first td my first opportunity to
actually go out and see something else. And it was amazing,
you know, because we had we had moose coming across
the runway.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
They'd be out there running them away.
Speaker 9 (29:31):
It's a different kind of life based on the tempo
they have now. Okay, because during that period of time
when a route and of course Grenada, when those things
were taking place, we're very isolated.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Everybody had a part to play.
Speaker 9 (29:44):
I would say most every branch of service did, and
unfortunately I got injured. But when you talk about the
tempo that the kids I'm in, I'm sixty two, so
I can call them that the kids are dealing with today.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
That's bad. It's far worse.
Speaker 9 (30:03):
Than being not complacent, but just wondering what am I
going to do now because everything is kind of stagnant
in from seventy five to ninety kind of the forgotten military.
Well now we're just ringing them out. And in this
town we have two big National Guard units and their
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deployment tempo has been like back to back to back
for many many years. They were ringing them out. Why
because they had to augment the active force. Well do
you think now if active duty isn't getting the support
they need when they come back from their deployments, how
much less so are these National guardsmen? You know they're
weekend warriors. You know they'll take care of themselves. So
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it just compounds the compounds the problem. But answer your question,
I was in and then I, like I said, I
enjoyed my time.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
I learned a lot.
Speaker 9 (30:58):
You grow up, you know, an opportunity I ask on
American Warrior Radio any veteran that I have on, because
it's not just vets we have on. We want people
that are interesting and have a story to tell as
it relates to you know, our military and for the veterans,
would you advise? Oh, I have a quick story to share.
So one of the guys I just asked this last
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probably Sean Parnell, who is now the chief spokesman for
the Pentagon. He was on American Warrior REA. I actually
interviewed him what six seven years ago on AWR while
he was working for Concerned Veterans of America over in Orlando.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
And now and.
Speaker 9 (31:37):
I've represented before the VA and we won that case.
But now he's the spokesperson for the Pentagon, which I'm
really proud about that. But I remember asking him because
he's a gung ho, you know, retired captain and he's
got all kinds of credits to and two purple hearts,
all this stuff. Would you he's got kids, would you
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recommend military service to your kids? It's like putting them
on the spot. I get varied answers. The response can
be yeah, you know, it's always a little bit tepid.
I haven't heard anybody go yeah, I would. You know,
so that tells you a little something.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
What was your motivation to get involved to serve?
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (32:21):
Really, it's kind of been a family tradition. I had
one brother, that didn't serve, but everybody else pretty much
has from World War Two to Korea through Vietnam and
then my brothers. But I went to Southernllinois University for
one semester out of high school, and well, you guys
are all huge. It's like I'm sitting in amongst a
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football team here. I remember, I thought I was a
football player. I go into a walk on camp at
the big auditorium there. This is walking. These are guys
that are not going to make the team, right. I
walk in there and I'm looking up. Oh no, this is.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Not all of a sudden. All of a sudden things
got bigger faster.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Yeh. It's like okay, right a little bit too.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (33:04):
So from there and my studies, I just I wasn't
there yet. Yeah, So I figured, okay, I'll go in
the Air Force, keep my keep my butt safe, but
still do something productive, learn a skill. Of course, I
wanted to be a flight engineer and I wanted to
be on the flight deck, but I didn't have my
degree at that time. So going into crew chief, which
is basically at your bird. You know, you've got your
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name on the door, and anything that happens to it.
It's you're responsible, which for a kid, a nineteen twenty
year old kid, that's a lot of responsibility.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
They're still doing it today. Okay, make no mistake. You
see that.
Speaker 9 (33:38):
You look on a fighter jet even it'll have his
crew chief there. Huge responsibility. They're watched closely. But you
learn a lot you grow up. And that's why I
asked that question, would you recommend or suggest somebody going
to the military today?
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Well, my dad didn't like because I wanted to, like
I'm like nine to eleven era, right, and yeah, I
came home when I was all gung ho ready to
go and like.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Let's go do this, and uh, he didn't want that
for you. He was he knew where you'd be going.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
Yeah, he was ex marine like during that era, just
post Vietnam like you know, so he remembered all that
and he was like and fortunately I got the chance
to play football in college. And he was like, hey, listen,
like you're going to get a scholarship. I'll support you,
but the only way I'll support you is if you
go to college first, and he goes, because then he
can go to O c S.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
You can go do all these other things. Good and
playing a smart guy.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
He was like, but I do not want you over
there doing what I know you'll end up being done.
He goes, you're a big guy. They're going to hand
you a machine gun, and that's what your job is
going to be.
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Like he go kill the enemy.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
Yeah, exactly. I thought I was gonna be a Navy
Seal sniper. Like that's what I wanted to do. He
was like, that's not how it's going to work.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Out, and that's the movie I want to I want
to be a I want to be a well that's
his seal.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
In the movies.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Remember the Charlie Remember the Charlie Sheen movie Navy Seals.
I wanted to be the guy I think he called
himself God and he sat up like he was like
he'd like had the thermal scope. And I was like,
that's what it'll be. Like I'll be hanging out on
top of buildings taking people out. But I mean it's
fifteen Like that's what you're that's what you visualize.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
That's not what war is.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
Though they helped the recruiters, you know, love that that's
not true.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Oh yeah, because he jumps off the jeep.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
I was like, that's the guy, I want to be
jumping off the jeep on the bridge swimming over.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
You know, let me ask you. You give me some
of your testimony and some of the hardships you've gone
through in life.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
The faith walk. How tough is it?
Speaker 9 (35:27):
Well, there are chaplains if you want to. If you
want a chaplain, you can find one there. They're deployed, Yeah,
they're forward deployed. You know, they're not caring weapons and
that's you know, part of the part of the whole program.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
But they're there for the guys and gals that want to.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
How does that person that's active, that's out there doing
their job stay strong in faith in a military background
when you're out there.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Well, I can give you one story.
Speaker 9 (35:58):
Early on in a VET project, we hosted a PR
and R retreat with our director of counseling. Beautiful piece
of property on the Rogue River which is famous for
its fishing right there in southern Oregon, you know, beautiful place,
and we bring in about ten warriors. It was our
first one there and Joe Anne, who's Native American, she's
our director of counseling. Like I said, she's dealing with
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these young guns and they're fresh out. I think the
one I'm talking about here goes by his label named
Soldier Herd Jeff Barrelero. He was a tanker and he
through one of the sessions said you know what, Joanne.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
I can't I enjoyed killing. But guess what.
Speaker 9 (36:44):
Joanne wasn't taken aback for a second. She goes, well,
God makes warriors. You're a warrior, so she and it
kind of struck him like, wow, I really didn't expect
that everybody has a part to play. I know, if
it's more beneficial to have a deep seated faith before
you go in the military, because they may challenge that.
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You know, you may run up against, especially women guys
because they have a tough road to hoe. And we
were talking about boys Club earlier. You know, oh, come on,
it can be rough. I wouldn't want to be a woman.
Now it's gotten better, just like in the V eight
they've started to address women's issues. But if you have
a strong faith prior to going in the military, it's
probably going to be challenged just because of the the
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yuck that you're going to encounter, whether it's a young
man or a young female. If you don't have any faith,
I don't know that the military is a place where
you're going to grow.
Speaker 7 (37:41):
It When you say it's going to be challenges it
challenged by other people or just by the circumstances and
the death and all the things that you see.
Speaker 9 (37:50):
I think you just said it all those check all
those boxes.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
But certainly, you know.
Speaker 9 (37:56):
People have a big part to play in the development
of any kind of military member. You can have good people,
just like you can have good bosses out here, people
that want to encourage you to take their job. You know,
that's probably on the lower end of the scale than
the ones that are power hungry and want to get
their rank next and you know see you as in
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their way.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
But when it.
Speaker 9 (38:19):
Comes to faith every I think on base right now,
there's a South chapel, and there's a main chapel. There's
I think five different denominations represented. We're talking about Patrick
Space Force Base, almost at Air Force Base, and it's there,
it's available. But I don't see them reaching out. I
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don't see them making a real strong, concerted effort in
any branch of the military to say, hey, let's have
just come in and have a meal with us and
let us share some stuff with you. You go to
any of the academies, the Air Force Academy, the West
Point Annapolis. Oh yeah, you're going to church. You know
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you're going to be You're going to have that opportunity
to go to chapel because it's just part of bringing
up you know, proper officer. But in the active duty ranks,
in the enlisted ranks.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
Probably not so much.
Speaker 9 (39:14):
So Yeah, I think it's I think there's a challenge
that's something that they could address.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
You know.
Speaker 9 (39:19):
That's why I want to see impact warriors grow. We
don't need to get huge. I just want people to
get the word out. There's a place where you can
go learn about what God can do in your life
and share some stories and be relatable to other bets.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Tell us.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
How God's worked in your life to overcome I know,
I know your I know the biggest thing and if
you want to share it, this grade, but tell us
tell us how you were able to over how you've
been able to overcome and you ever come after your
active duty time. But I would love to hear the
depth of this because these.
Speaker 9 (39:56):
Two guys either coming from a breakfast we had or
maybe I shared some yeah impact. Yeah, well everybody has
their challenges, right, But God's always been, always had a.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
Place in my heart. I've always known Jesus.
Speaker 9 (40:10):
I wasn't baptized until nineteen ninety one, and I remember
the little church. I can't remember the name of it,
but I know exactly where it's at. It may not
even be a church anymore, but it was important for
me to get baptized because I knew I needed to
do that up till that point. Is that story I've
told you a little bit about. It was just a
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horrific scene with an ex wife and what happened was
had a beautiful boy, and she began poisoning him, just
horrible against me because we had I was done with her,
and as she used him as a tool, And so
(40:53):
I can That's as close as I can get to
knowing that I was a deep believer in Christ, knowing
after that I was less so because I was so angry.
I remember coming out of it was in Seattle. I
was coming out of a particular court hearing. I'm not
going to go into the details, just imagine the worst.
And I'm on my motorcycle. It's raining out and I'm
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driving down I five and I couldn't even tell that
it was raining because I was crying someone. I was
just bawling and I had to pull over. And Okay,
the next time God appeared in my life, same motorcycle.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
I was being a.
Speaker 9 (41:32):
Dork and popped a wheelie in front of some girls
driving in the car and boom, guy flipped his lights
on and I told him what was going on with me,
and he let me off and I said, thank you God.
So then I knew God was still there. But that's
the long and short of it. Okay, God's always been
with me. I got baptized, I guess kind of late.
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And then you know, I've got thirty two now years
with this wonderful woman that I'm married to, Kim. She's
the biggest blessing God's ever brought into my life.
Speaker 5 (42:04):
By far.
Speaker 9 (42:04):
Yes, And when he says she runs, he's not joking.
She's the brains behind it and the driving force. But
it just shows the magnificence of God. And just like
every morning I wake up, I just have that moment
and I just let him know. And I again, it's
probably more selfish. It's just me needing to express to him,
you know how awesome he is. So God's played a
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huge part in my life. Ever since, we've had some
real good connections with pastors I've been.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
I've had some really awesome pastors.
Speaker 9 (42:36):
John Corson Applegate Christian Fellowship, one of Chuck Smith's disciples,
amazing teaching even here on the Space Coast with the
East Coast Christian Center with Dan Stallbaum before he retired.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
You talked about it.
Speaker 9 (42:49):
It's that relatability when a pastor can come out there
and their own foibles and their own trials, and.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
It's just, man, I need that, I need to know,
I need to know more about you. I need to
know more about you you because it helps me.
Speaker 6 (43:02):
I think that's one of the big things with Impact
is like number one is you know, we're talking about
our Veterans program, right like, we identify very quickly who
we can relate to, and if we can't do it,
we find a guy that can exactly and we got
one in there that'll.
Speaker 4 (43:16):
Do it right.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
But then we also have people that have such different
stories across the board that we can find somebody that
not only has probably been in your situation, but can
relate to the situation you're exactly in today, so that
there's no condemnation, there's no you can truly talk on
a level.
Speaker 9 (43:32):
Right.
Speaker 6 (43:32):
It's like if you're dealing with PTSD, that that's a
big spectrum. Man like you could be the guy that
was in the hummer that got blown up, or it
could be the guy that was putting them back together.
And those are two different perspectives and they're very other
guy that was taking the lives of other humans or
the one that was exactly And that's a hard thing
that I mean, you can have to compartmentalize to do that,
and then when you come back to the real world,
(43:54):
the real world says that's not a good thing, that's
not acceptable.
Speaker 9 (43:58):
Same thing can happen in the military, can happen in
any career field. Things can happen external influences. That's why
to have a center, to have the center being God
is super important. I don't proselytize AVT project doesn't.
Speaker 5 (44:14):
We don't talk about Jesus.
Speaker 9 (44:16):
We have prayer, you know, we open everything and and
you were invited, but you didn't make it because you
were busy, which you know you're Does everybody know how busy.
Speaker 4 (44:25):
Is I think I was out of town that night.
Speaker 5 (44:27):
Okay, that day but.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
I asked for the raincheck. Bro God, I got the
rain check.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
Call you got it.
Speaker 9 (44:34):
So we we introduced God and we're there and we're available,
and we have people that can talk much more learnedly.
If that's a word, then I can about the Bible.
I love the Bible and I read it and I
have devotions around the house that I go through every day.
But at the PR and R Retreat, just like, we
(44:54):
don't talk politics.
Speaker 5 (44:55):
We don't let them drink booze.
Speaker 9 (44:57):
Okay you can, you've got three days, you can go
without it, right, We're here to focus on a mission
and get things done on you. Yeah yeah, So no politics,
no booze, no uh, proselytizing, But is there if anybody,
and you'd be amazed often and they'll find their little
subgroup you start talking.
Speaker 6 (45:15):
Find it's a good idea, right because you need to
have if you I mean, let's face it, like religious organizations,
we get a bad name, right and when you start
making that the center of everything, like you would, you
would turn guys and women off. They wouldn't come because
they're like, well, I don't want to get preached that.
I want to talk about my issue. But then having
an impact group that's a partner alongside. It's like, hey,
(45:35):
they want to know more, Like here's here's the guy,
like call this one, you know, yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Give us the the a VET what you can do
for someone that needs some help and elevator speech.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
The elevator speech with the how to get ahold of you.
Speaker 5 (45:51):
It's really easy.
Speaker 9 (45:52):
Everybody a ve e T dash project dot o RG,
a VET dashproject dot org. You go to that website
and again this is constructed by my wife. She's a magician.
Everything that we do you can see all right. You
can click on events. It's going to show you some
(46:13):
historical photographs. You can go, oh, yeah, I can see that.
Oh there's a pr and arbitry. Oh there's the first
Female Veterans Day celebration. Now that's not Veterans Day. This
is to celebrate female veterans. Was about three years ago
that Kim put together at the Nomiinami room at Bavard Zoo.
We were hoping on hopefully fifty people, had about seventy
five people show up. Then it grew to aden one
(46:34):
hundred and twenty five. Now we have to move it.
So this coming flag, I think it's June twelfth, we're
going to celebrate the female veterans here in Bavard at
the Holiday and Convention Center off of five twenty. If
you want to get involved, see a little bit about
what we do and see the impact of bringing women together.
Just to women, men are welcome. Please buy tickets guys
(46:56):
and just see how it moves them and move them
together and more closely. It's pretty, it's wild. That's just
one one opportunity. A Vett dashproject dot org. Also American
Warrior Radio show. Eve been doing it. Avett Project was
founded in two thousand and nine, so what's that sixteen years.
Speaker 5 (47:16):
The following year.
Speaker 9 (47:17):
We started on Trestal Radio with American Warrior Radio and
we've been doing it. Took some hiatus on both fronts
for a number of years for a number of different reasons,
but we're out there. The information is at avetdashproject dot org.
Even if it's something as simple as wanting some background
on a do it yourself claim boom very well laid
(47:38):
out and.
Speaker 5 (47:40):
Things like this.
Speaker 9 (47:41):
Partnering with other like minded groups I love, Obviously, I'm
all about faith based partnerships. We have to be careful
because we don't want to alienate. We want to invite
them in and if it kind of organically grows and
it works, yeah, that's fine. But we're not going to
be out there saying, well, support Tim Thomas because he's
a vent and he's running for you know, Florida State Center.
Speaker 5 (48:04):
We can't do that. We don't want to do that.
Speaker 9 (48:06):
You know, we don't want to say up, come come
to Jesus, come here and we'll help you out with
your faith walk.
Speaker 5 (48:11):
No, we want to open the door, bring them in.
Speaker 9 (48:14):
And the easiest way for anybody to find out more
about that avetdaeshproject dot org or go to American Warrior
Radio Show on YouTube. Get involved, help us help them,
whether it's volunteering for one of the events. We need
people for the Female Veterans Day celebration. You know, you
always find a place to plug somebody in. And then,
of course money is always important because we can't do
(48:35):
these things alone. And that's why it's really special to
partnership with you, Trey and Impact and Impact Warriors to
get the word out because this dude, Matthew West amazing,
amazing and it's going to be an awesome night. I've
been to the others you've invited me. Thank you for that.
(48:56):
And it's just what you're putting together here the Grace experience.
Really looking forward to it. And have a VETT Project
alongside or as part of that is really special.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
Great segue bro uh we uh I May thirty.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
First, we're going to be teaming up with a VET
Project and Amigos and Cristo. That's our first foreign mission
uh organization that we're working with raising awareness and funds.
And this guy, Matthew West, five time Grammy nominated Christian
Artists singer songwriter, is going to join and I might
have a special speaker guest that might be joining us,
so I'm working on that now. You can get your
(49:33):
tickets at Kingcenter dot com, go to our website that
links there to at Impactmanistries dot org and we want
to hear from you. Click on the Brotherhood Support Network
link listen to one O six point three because one
O six point three hope one O six point three
giving away tickets as well. Our friend Eric's going to
be joining us probably within the coming weeks to promote
(49:53):
their station. Also, lastly, the Impact Warriors Project we meet
every third two day of the month at the Freedom
Boat club right out front of Grill's Riverside. Our friend
Joe and Chris from Grills have donated that space for
us to get together. We would love for you to
come peel back the layers, get real about who we
are as men and understand who God says we are
(50:16):
as a children. So, uh, it's been a joy having you, Garin,
thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (50:23):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
He's all right, so but we will uh well, we
will circle back up with some of the other amazing
things to talk about in the coming weeks.
Speaker 4 (50:33):
Until then, I'm Trey, I'm Brad, I'm Jeremy.
Speaker 5 (50:35):
This is Garon Cone with Project and we are the.
Speaker 4 (50:41):
You know, this might be the first episode without a
cuss word in a long time.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
He did reference Hell on Earth, which yeah, he spelled ho.
Is that is that?
Speaker 5 (50:51):
What that? That's not?
Speaker 4 (50:52):
What that means?
Speaker 1 (50:53):
What we call people host Hell on Eric Hell
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