June 17, 2025 • 46 mins
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How can you live with gratitude and purpose after having your dreams shattered? Florida Gators Basketball Star Patric Young shares his journey from competing in the NBA and European League to overcoming a life altering accident.
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How can you live with gratitude and purpose after having your dreams shattered? Florida Gators Basketball Star Patric Young shares his journey from competing in the NBA and European League to overcoming a life altering accident.
#joerogan #podcast #mensministry #christianliving #biblestudy #cussing #charliekirk #joerogan #jasonwhitlock #fearless #menshealth #christianliving #vincevaughn #timtebow #christianmotivation #churchmemes #mensministry #promiskeepers #timtebow #patrickbetdavid
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Yo, what are you doing right now?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We are gonna get real about men's issues, who Jesus
is and who we are as men in Christ. We're
gonna hear Trey, Jeremy, Michael, and Brad break it down.
These guys call themselves the cousin Christians. All right, guys,
what is going on?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Yeah, she's amazing.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
That's nice.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
That's how it happens.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Well, and I'm glad you made it down, dude. Man,
this is fantastic. Patrick Young's joining us today, Patrick without
a kid, Patrick without a kay with us. See, and
he is coming into town because one of the churches
in the area is having a men's breakfast and we
come alongside that church, and a couple of us in
this room go to that church. So and we're looking
(00:49):
forward to the men's breakfast tomorrow. We got a lot
of men that are coming in from different parts of
the county, a lot of guys bringing in their issues
and their troubles, and our ministry is just all about
helping us overcome. Now, dude, we're just glad you're here.
As you know, I've told you about this podcast. We're
imagine four guys sitting around eating wings talking about supports
(01:10):
and talking about Jesus. That's what we do. So I'm
tiggled to death. You're joining us. You got an amazing
book called Sit to Rise. Uh. The tagline is turning
your darkest pain into your brightest victory. We are here
as a ministry to emphasize that there's sometimes we have
(01:30):
to humble ourselves to be able to move forward in
the grace of God. But the grace this is the
strongest gift that we've ever been given. And I reading
parts of your book and your articles about you and
your life University of Florida starting center, you played, Michael said,
every game Florida didn't miss a game went on, and
(01:54):
before you were like really getting your feet into the
professional career, you had this accident. Man walk me.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Through displayed I played professional. I've got about six years
six years profession years professional. Yeah, before before the accident.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Just the emotions and what you went through mentally, emotionally,
spiritually and obviously physically. Summing up turning your darkest pain
into your biggest, biggest victory. What lessons can we as
guys look from getting to be buds with Patrick Young
and I think we need to get.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Little more specific because it's it's a little that's very broad. Yeah,
I mean it's a coming up. We're coming up on
three years since my accident, So I couldn't tell you
just uh. I mean there's been there's been phases and seasons.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Did you get angry?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
No? I didn't get angry.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Really so you had your faith grounded before?
Speaker 5 (02:43):
No?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
No. I think I think what what a lot of people?
And I think the church sometimes uh fails at highlighting
this thing that's so obvious is that a lot of
times your circumstances are your fault. Yeah, you made choices
in your life life that have put you in the
position that you are. And two parts of it, like
(03:07):
there's a level of gratitude that comes from thinking of, man,
all the stupid crap I did that God protected me
from exactly right, like or like dang, I could have
been dead at or something bad could have happened to
me when I made this decision, that decision whatever. And
then there's the piece of like man like, I'm fortunate
that God stopped me from going further down that path
(03:30):
with this wake up call and to refocus to chay it.
You know, I think perspective is everything if you're not
living in the perspective or as we would all say
in that app that the belief of an absolute truth,
that that is your guidance of everything that you do.
First off, where's your hope gonna come from? Right? Where
(03:51):
are you going to be guided in the situation that
you're in to not think that the world and your
situation is the end of the world. Because a lot
of people do you know, something really hard happens and
they think, oh, this is it and without having you know,
those components for me, there's no way I'd be where
I am right now.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Can we get the backstory because some people are listening
don't know your story. Yeah, they just know that you
were a basketball player at UF and you didn't miss
a game, so.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Right, So yeah, I played University of Florida from twenty
ten to fourteen, which was such such a blessing to
be a part of that that time. You know, a
lot of people don't want to consider Florida a blue
blood when it comes to basketball, but as a whole
Florida the University of Florida is one of the few
schools that have three national championships in football and basketball.
(04:41):
There's only like six schools that have that, So put
your opinion on that as you want. I did not
put a national championship up there, but we did go
to a final four, which was pretty awesome. So I
played under Billy Donovan my last year, went to the
final four. It was incredible, man, and I really love
this dynamic of it, especially since I'm going to be
(05:04):
talking to some men tomorrow. Uh we coach j Donovan.
He had to deal with some guys on our team
making some poor choices when it came to some drugs
that weren't allowed to be taken quite yet. They weren't
performance enhancing, but you know, maybe you can catch my
drift fill the blank. He made those two guys go
(05:27):
through some counseling and it went so well with those two,
those few guys that we incorporated with the whole team,
and of course, like vulnerability, at first, everyone's got their
guard up. But as soon as the first guy starts
letting that armor down and starts sharing something, then everyone started.
(05:48):
And it made it made it so because guys will
always say this, Oh, these guys are my brothers that
I'm fighting for. But when you really know what that
guy next to you is dealing with what he's burden,
is what he's struggling and fighting through. You're like, I'm
not letting that guy now because what he's going through.
I feel responsible for that too. And yeah, it was
(06:11):
priceless the experience I had and the success came after that.
I mean we went we won thirty games in a row.
We were the first team in the SEC that year
to go eighteen and zero win conference and then to
go on to win the tournament. It was. It was
a fantastic year. And then all good things come to
an end. At some point, right came to an end.
(06:31):
It's like, what's next. I was fortunate to go play
basketball for the New Orleans Pelicans, even though I was undrafted.
Team was really bad, so you know, usually when you're
the fifteenth guy on the roster, you're the first one
to go. So I got cut then went overseas. It
was crazy. I got cut and I remember I packed
(06:52):
everything up in New Orleans and my Honda Accord. I
don't know how it all fit. Drove seven hours to
back to Jacksonville. A day later, I was on a
plane to Istanbul, Turkey.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Wow, it's a talent, Like.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
I remember there were two practices that I remember. There
was one we were playing one on one and Ryan Anderson,
he he played at Cal High draft pick, really good
career over and he was he was not twilight years,
but on that first decline of his prime, he scored
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on me like ten times in a row. There was
nothing I could do. I guarded him, I gave, I
gave all of the energy and effort I could to
stopping him. And in the shot he's taking, it's not
an easy shot. He's backing me down and he's turning
around and he's shooting this fade away. But that shot
was like his bread and butter. NBA guys to that level,
(07:50):
they they just know themselves so well. Like Larry Bird,
he's known for being the biggest trash talker. He'd say,
he'd say, Trey, next play, next obsession, I'm going over
to that block. I'm gonna do this little up fake
fake and fake if fake, and then I'm going to
turn around and I'm going to make the shot and
(08:10):
there's nothing you can do about it, nothing you can do,
and then you just go and do it. So I
was never that good, Yeah, but I was.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
I was all right, Yeah, man, I what you said
a little while ago really inspired me because with our ministry,
you know, our calling card verse versus from the Bible
or James five sixteen, confess your sins to one another
and pray for one another and you can begin healing
right and then we also really go into the Galatians
versus about bearing each other's burdens. It sounds like you
(08:41):
guys kind of took on that role in identity during
that time period.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah, well, there's two folds and I buzz Williams says this.
I'm not going to take it from him. There cannot
be any change without truth and then and then there
can be there can be no growth without accountability if
we say that we you know, we can't say we
want to go somewhere and not be truthful about where
(09:06):
we are. A GPS is pointless, It's useless. If it
has it can it can give you all these different
paths of but if it doesn't know where you're starting,
and it's and when you're not asking when it comes
to vulnerability and getting to know people and you're not
asking them to, you know, give all the deepest parts
of their soul right away. But there is there going
to be a point or a certain relationship where that's necessary.
(09:27):
Maybe absolutely, But it is like having more than just
a surface level relationship that's based off of Uh, our
kids go to school together, so we're friends by proximity,
or we're we like fantasy football. We like this team,
so that's why we're friends. It's like is this guy
this person? And in Hebrews that says it, and like
(09:48):
running your race. If marriage is something that you feel
called to do, is this person helping elevate you? Or
are they a weight and you being a good husband
and a good father towards Because that's that's I mean.
Men that have been called to be fathers and husbands,
I think the calling for them is even so much
more higher, you know, in what God is calling men
(10:09):
to do to love their wives and their family, is
Christ love the Church, to be willing to die for them.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
See these guys know my story and the reason I'm
in a relationship with this guy and doing impact ministries
is because coming to that point of truth and saying
to myself, I can't isolate myself anymore. I am miserable.
I am at the point where I don't want to
(10:36):
live this life anymore. So I went to a breakfast
like we're having tomorrow, and during that time, I stood
up and I said, Trey, I'm a fixer. I try
to fix things. I try to do that on my own.
And there's a lot of men that do that, Yeah,
for sure. And I finally told him during that time
at that breakfast, I can't fix what's going on me anymore,
(10:58):
so that truth can out. And for me, that totally
flipped my relationship with Christ and brought me so much
further than what I could do on my own.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yeah, it's so it's so beautiful. It reminds me of
like you got to a point there's something that made
you say, Okay, I can't do this on the exactly.
And I thought the same thing when I was just
in a situation where I felt like I couldn't change anything. God,
I need you, I need you, help me, help me,
And I felt this conviction you always need me. Yeah, yeah,
(11:32):
it might be more like your senses or your awareness
might be more, but you we always need him and anytime,
and that's what you know. It's and I'm sure you
talk about it a lot. With the Ministry of Fighting Pride,
we have to be relentless in seeing the pride and
where it shows up. It is so hard. We can
(11:53):
have willpower, all of us can, but at a certain
point our willpower is going to run out and the
enemy once to still kill and destroy, but he also
wants to pacify us. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Having a pocket God meaning we take him out of
our pocket when we need him, and then we put
him back in when things are going cool and smooth.
And that's how I lived my life because it was
like God, I need you.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Huh, So I take him out of my pocket.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Yeah, I need you?
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Are you show the others in the road you got him?
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Yeah? Yeah, like like some type of like a card
that you oh yeah, no, I'm called I got it.
I got it. Yeah, And that's the only time you
bring it out is exactly yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Yeah, And that's that pride thing.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
So you were playing basketball over in Turkey for a while.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
So, uh, career went. I was in Turkey first team
first year is then Bull Turkey with a team called Galatasaraye.
That was from like December fourth to May twenty eighth.
I remember those dates because I was ready to get
out of there. Not that I didn't enjoy it, it
was just like that was my first time like truly
being away from home for so long, for so far.
(13:01):
And then after that team I was in Greece for
two years. That's where I really look back and think,
I wish I could have maximized those times a little
bit better. Uh, just because they value and love sports
so much over there, there's so much attention that come
like the pride is gonna come in there, like you're
gonna start thinking higher of yourself, Thank you deserve that
(13:23):
this and that. The temptations are there, the deception of
sin will tell you, oh, well, I'm not as bad
as that guy. You're both still sinning. That's like, that's
like saying, hey, guys, let's have a let's have a
contest who can jump the furthest in the Grand Canyon. Yeah,
you're still gonna You're still going down, Yeah exactly, And
without proper guidance, it's just a matter of time before
(13:46):
you just start falling off of being who you are.
God doesn't move, but you realize, like like a drift,
you're getting pulled, pulled in every direction and you're like, dang,
how did I get this far from from the starting place?
And I'm just grateful for God's great faithfulness and mercy
and grace, because I'm thinking if I was him looking
(14:06):
at me, I would have been like, dude, I'm tired
of dealing with your stuff, just.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
When you know, we all have different stories, different testimonies.
I know I I really didn't start connecting the dots
as a professed believer till later in life, and it
was a suicidal moment. And when I started connecting that
dots of his grace and how powerful he was, and
how I oftentimes didn't appreciate that. Often times I wasn't
(14:40):
in awe of who he was or what he did
on the cross and the resurrection. But at some point
we all start connecting those dots. When when was that
for you?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Yeah? I wonder what it is, you know, whether it's
getting desensitized from the gospel because you hear it so much,
or were you raised as a believer yeah, okay, yeah,
or is it church is not doing a great job
of putting all into our eyes or looking at the
stars and like thinking how incredible. But there's a disconnect
(15:10):
there somewhere of God's grandeur, like oh my gosh, it's
glory and part of it for me is you know
when I went on to college and experienced consequences of sin,
when you realize, like dang, life is not going the
way I thought it would. I don't know how to
handle these situations. I must be doing something wrong and
(15:33):
getting called out in truth and love. Like having in college,
I was able to maintain these two personalities, or these
two faces. I would say personality was the same, but
two different faces. When I was around the athletes and
action group, I was one guy. I was at all
the events, the big Mondays. But then when I was
in the locker room with the guys, same personality, but
(15:57):
the motives and the intentions and the the swaying and
the conversation, it's all so different. You would, without a word,
without a doubt, hypocrite and thank God for someone that
loved me, that deposited enough enemy that I could take
their confrontation. If you want to use that word, and
(16:19):
know that it's not coming from a place of like
you're bad. It's like, no, I love you and I
want to get you off that this path you're on on.
That was when the dots started connecting from me.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Wow, So in your actual college years, not not post
college Okay, that's that's big because you know we had
that event in Gainswelle last year with Tim and Zach right, yeah, yeah,
And the whole message of that night was, you know,
the statistics are staggering. The the eighteen year old Christian
that leaves and goes away to college, over two thirds
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walk away from their faith. That's a dangerous statistic. And
Jason Shack and I were talking about he said, that's true.
Now a lot come back, they come back, but that
numbers dec So that was a whole purpose of that
event in Gainsville was to stay true to what the
seeds have been planted in you what what words of
wisdom would you have for that college student today? Well,
(17:11):
there's so much coming in.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
I don't want to I don't want to have to
come at parents like this. But it's it's a book
that I read. There was so good the Disciple Making
Parent and it it first and early in the book.
It dispels a lot of myths. First off, you can
do everything perfectly and it still doesn't guarantee that your
kids are going to come to Christ. That that's so
(17:34):
so you know, like there is a point in time
where your children have to make their own decisions without
a doubt. And one of the biggest ones that I
saw that I really related to. It talked about the
myth of parents thinking if I just put them in
the right places, then they'll get it, versus I need
(17:56):
to be the example of not only And I can
attest to this, you know, like my parents grew up
and grew up in church and and I would say,
you know, we're God fearing family, but when we at home,
you know, there was a disconnect in what you saw.
You know, more as more is caught than what's taught,
And it kind of seemed like it was something we
(18:16):
kind of just sprinkled into our lives, and that instead
of it being like the foundation, like how this table
is the foundation of what of of everything for us
right now in this moment, uh for this, for this podcast,
Like it wasn't the foundation. So that's a huge piece
of it. I think God is okay if we're coming
to him with questions. It's when you're it's when you're
(18:38):
not you're you're like, I'm my heart is heart and
I don't want to hear anything ever, Like they'll stay
away from people like that and try not to become
a person like that as well.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I think for some of us, it's just like for
me because I grew up in the church as well.
My parents were great. But it wasn't until I hit
a point where I knew I needed him. I mean,
like you said, we do need him. But when when
I got my girlfriend pregnant, and and you know my
you know, I was always the golden child, you know,
at home and everything, and my parents thought I could
do no wrong. And I had to write them a
letter saying, hey, I got this girl pregnant. And that
(19:12):
letter that I know, well, it's funny. It's funny because
she's my wife. Now, we've been married thirty six years.
So that worked out. But her mom called her. Her
mom had a very prophetic, you know, gifting and she
called my Mike at the time. My girlfriend says, God
told me you're pregnant, and so wow. So my wife
didn't even have to say anything. I'm like, I can't
tell my parents, like, I just can't. So I wrote
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them a letter, send it to you know, mailed it
to him this thirty years ago. I mailed him a letter.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
But but but I tell you.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I knew, you know, even before then I knew I
need to be training to God. I could feel him
drawing me, but I was just putting him off. But
when that happened, it's like, okay, I know, like this
is it. Like I got to get my stuff together
because now I'm responsible, responsible for a wife and a daughter.
And so it was that moment for me. But you know,
we grew up in the church and we had been
exposed to the Word and you know, good parenting and
(20:01):
all that. But I don't know. I guess for each
of us it takes something different. And you know, hopefully
some people have the grace to I guess turn that
over to Him before they get to a crisis moment.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
You know, I've heard this false heart. There's no grandparents,
there's no parents. We're all children of God. And I
know you and both have talked about the fact that
you were living your parents' relationship with Christ and so me,
I got so many stories.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I grew up.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Catholic, but I don't even want to go there right
now because I'll get off freaky about that anyway. So
I know that I didn't have my parents' relationship with
Christ growing up because they didn't have one. But you
guys talk about it. I don't know if that's what
you are meaning when you say because we all have
to have that personal relationship with Jesus Christ and it
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comes down to being a child of God and how
we relate to God in that relationship.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Even after college and being a pro there's still are
you all the way committed? Are you all the way submitted?
And there's moments where God confronts us multiple times I
think you can't live half in with him? And going
(21:22):
through this accident that really solidified do you believe in God?
You know really or just like brought that to the forefront.
Do you believe God is who he says he is
and what he says about you? And if you do,
then what are you worried about? You know that you
know God never said, oops, what am I going to
(21:43):
do in this situation? That he's not caught off guard?
And always say this, I'm so grateful. God is not
like us. Yeah, he's not like us. We are made
in his image, but he doesn't doubt, He's never confused.
So it's just put you in a position where I'm like,
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I want to see what God is going to do
through all this and in the meantime, the good that's
come from it, I'm waiting on the Lord, waiting for
an answers here or there, for this or for that.
But like, what about today? What can I do today?
It's a lot I can do today. It's a lot
of all of us can do today. It's a lot
of all of us can do tomorrow and the day
after that and the day after that, and just trying
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to keep stacking wins for the Lord's That's kind of
where I've been at.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Do you want to share about your accident? Can you?
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Yeah? For sure?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
How many years ago now?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
It'll be on June Windy, ninth of Bey three years
I was up in Nebraska doing some work for irrigation company,
and it was it was early in the morning, it
was about I mean, we start working at he comes
to the guy will come to picking up around four
point fifty am. And we were finishing up a job
where we were transporting one of these big parts of
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a pivot that can be about one hundred and fifty
feet long, and we had one more piece that we
were going to go and grab and it was right
up the road and I was in a bit of
a rush to get up there because there was a
phone call I needed to make, and before you know it,
the moment not being locked in on the moment, you know,
being on this dirt road I wasn't familiar with and
(23:19):
coming up on the highway where you know, I couldn't
see any vehicles coming. My cargoes completely parallel to the road,
and the momentum takes it off the side. Thing got
nobody else got injured, and the truck flips over one
time and when it lands back on all fours, I
just feel this pop in my back and knew something
was immediately wrong. And I never hit my head or anything,
so I was fully aware of everything that was going on,
(23:43):
and it was it was just surreal. So I, as
you can imagine, you brace up in that moment, and
that felt a pop in my back, and that pop
was my t seven getting dislocated and pinchon into the
spinal cord YEP, and then I don't know, thirty minutes later,
I'm want a helicopter getting life lighted to a hospital
(24:04):
in South Dakota where I have an eight and a
half hour surgery that puts two rods and twelve screws
in my.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Back and this was how long after your career had
ended basketball playing?
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I pretty much stopped playing basketball in twenty twenty. That
was my last like professional team, and early in twenty
twenty one, I was still kind of like, ah, maybe
and uh, but I was. I was pretty much done
with basketball before the accident. Okay, but there's seventeen thousand
new spinal cord injuries every year, about forty nine a day.
(24:37):
You're kidding forty nine a day.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
So you had this accident and you did something amazing
a few days later? Yeah, what did I do? Didn't
you get married like a few days?
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Oh? Yeah I did?
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Yeah, eight days or seven days after or something like that.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Oh it was July seventh. Yeah, yeah, so we initially
were gonna get married on July tenth? Was the date?
July ninth or drown? I mean, it just all kind
of blurred together. We jumped in not even knowing fully
what the future. You know, I'm saying fully you're not
gonna know fully what the future is gonna hold, but
(25:17):
at least even having like a flashlight, so I you know,
what's the next year gonna kind of look like? And
we didn't even have that. And even though you know,
being married and becoming a stepdad was one of the
greatest things that I've was blessed to have. I mean,
it just wasn't built on at time, on a foundation
(25:39):
that she was content with and that I was even
ready to hold. I mean, new body, new husband, new
dad just too much, too much to put on anybody,
and we ended up we ended up getting separated. And
that's that's part of my story though, you know, that's
part of the story. And how do you still when
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even parts and components of things, or even taking a
step back, when your dream is destroyed or it's just gone,
or that thing that you thought you you wanted, how
where do you go from there? Whether that is marriage,
whether that's a career thing, whether how do you still
have hope that that is in the end? And I'm
(26:24):
a living testament of that.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
How do you come back from being separated?
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Obviously, it's it's it's a process. You know, I don't
believe in the homage of time heals all time might
uh you know, in the same way that you might
just put some stuff under a rug and think, ah,
you know, we kind of just can forget about it.
You know, it's an it's a wound. It's an it's
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a wound that needs to be treated properly in for
in order for it to heal. Time can be absolutely
be a help of that. But you know, you need,
I think for a for a real wound to heal,
it needs to be in the perfect setting. It can't
be too dry, it can't be too wet, it needs
to be protected from infection. It needs to have someone
needs to have eyes on it. Like men, men that
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are hearing this. If you're dealing with an open wound
and your your chest cavity is open, you can't just
put a shirt on it to act like it's all
gonna be all right.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Oh gosh, that's beautiful anology.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
You can't. Yeah, yeah, could you imagine? You know, there's
a lot of men, Yeah, I know, I know many.
I know many that are dealing with dad wounds, mom wounds,
relationship wounds, and they think, oh, I'm just gonna get
through this thing without any type of therapy, any type
of prayer, any type of intention. And one of the
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stuffs for me of healing and this was like I'm
spending my time around people that I know are predictable,
Like I'm spending time with my best friends. I'm spending
time with my family. I'm spending time in areas where
I know it's going to be. And I'm not saying
you got to orchestrate all the parts of your life,
but in terms of trying me trying to become whole
again and being okay and moving past what's happened, I
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had to be you kind of got to protect your energy,
be selfish in that way. And yeah, I like spending
time with my best friends and their little kids. That's
been so life giving to me. And uh, you know,
my hope and dream will be to get married again
and have kids one day. But I'm not I'm ever
going to do things on my own timing. That's not
going to happen.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
You know, you've overcome a lot physically, emotionally, spiritually, and
all that time kind of you know, started to uh
ebb on, you started connecting the dots and now you're
just influencing so many people with your story and everything else.
How did that get going? On?
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:48):
I mean you're you're you're you're doing basketball for the
SEC network, right, yeah, and you're doing that a commentary
and then you're I saw you speak in front of
a couple hundred kids at the SCA and I knew
I had to get a hold of you. Yeah, tell
me about that journey.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Yeah. I think I think for for a lot of
us in general, that maybe you feel called to do something,
there's a level of fear. Oh yeah, there, Like even
even with the SEC Network job, and this is before
the accident, Like I felt that was a calling of mine,
but I still had fear can I do this job?
And it took reps, It took it took uh, you know,
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working with being in the actual environment too to see like, Okay,
how are the people that I'm working around with? And
it helped me to say, no, you're You're meant to
be here, You're meant to be doing this. And it
was and this is talking about sports. When it came
to like going through this accident and like thinking about
starting a foundation, Like no one would have blamed me
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if I was all just thinking internally in me. But
some reason God put it on my heart to be
thinking about others and giving and going and doing. And
that was in the form of starting a foundation of
wanting to help people as that have gone through what
I'm going through and have no help and they need
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financial resources they need like they might need a wheelchair
rant built around their house or it doesn't matter, it
doesn't like my foundation. I saw that there's such a
gap and what insurance says, Okay, you have life, now
go back to living it and to what actually is
life giving to people and then stepping out on the
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stage and wanting to share your story like I didn't
feel ready for that. There was a high level of fear,
and I just felt God, say go do it, Just
go do it, trust me and go do it before
you're ready. I mean, I thought of all the people
that he had used, that stutterers, adulterers, liars, this, and
that he can use me. And my favorite story I
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love to share was the first page speaking engagement I
ever had the company in Jacksonville. I wasn't ready. It
was in November of the same year I had had
the accident, and I'm like, well, uh, in my mind,
I'm just like, okay, all right, just gonna go and
do our best.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
What do I have to give?
Speaker 4 (31:13):
What do I have to give?
Speaker 5 (31:14):
I gets in there and goes there.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I don't want to hear that.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Oh it was more so, it was more so just like,
are you sure you're you're not you know what do
you really have to share? You're not Eric Thomas, You're
not Tim Tebow, You're not thinking more kind of just
kind of disqualify me in that way I go and speak.
It's a half hybrid, half in person event. And I mean,
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I'm like, okay, I did okay, Like I, you know,
have some good questions. I need some more reps. That
that's my kind of carnal mindset I'm having towards this
how did I do? What? Do every what does everybody think?
Go through some more life? Right, write the book, get
a bunch more reps, go into and they bring you
back to speaking in the next year. So obviously I
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must have did okay. And I felt super confident in
how I presented this next time, and like, you couldn't
have told me I did anything wrong. I was like,
oh man, I dominated this event. But the most meaningful
part of it was that there was a man waiting
to come talk to me at the end of this.
And I'd never seen this guy before and I don't
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know his name now, and I'm am a terrible person
for not remembering it. Yes, you can tell me that
he waits till everybody's gone, and he says, I wasn't
here last year, but I watched online through zoom. He said,
I had the method, the plan, and the note for
how I was going to take my life last year. Wow,
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the method, the note, and the plan. He said, you
saved my life. He said something about you coming up
in the middle of your circumstances not having answers just
sobered my mind from whatever I was in. And gosh,
you won't to talk about an affirmation, okid to keep
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going because you weren't.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
It wasn't candy coated, and you were just honest and
saying that was it. This is fresh. I got fresh wounds.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
And there were a lot of people there at that day,
like they're like, your accident was just how long ago? Yeah? Yeah,
I look back. I can't say I recommend, you know,
trying to go do something for other people right after
a major traumatic event that's happened. But in this case
it worked.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
God leaving the ninety nine going after the one.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
It reminds me of the story of Gideon, when you
know he was hiding on wine press and God, God
says a risey body man Feler and he's like, I'm
not a mighty man. He's like, I'm the least of
my family and my family, Yeah, and he says, go
in the strength you have, and it sounds like that's
that's what God said to you. Like you didn't think
you were ready, you didn't have it all polished, but
he said, go in the strength you have, and look
what effect that had on somebody.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Still do we still need to like always give our best,
absolutely and like prepare of course, but like we can't
let that get in the way of being obedient of
like nah God, Like Lord's saying, no, no, no, don't worry.
I called you to this. Go I got it. Yeah,
go go go do that thing, Go start that business,
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go call that person. Whatever I'm I will take care
of the rest. And yeah, I mean so it just
goes to show, like with a mustard seed amount of obedience, guy,
can gosh make a runway of impact and redemption through that.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
Yeah. You know you're talking earlier about wounds. Yeah, and
obviously you have some scars. And the thing about the
scars is you overcame a wound, it's been healed, right,
And so many times with those guys we just hide
behind masks and never show what our wounds are, what
our fears are, what our anxieties are, our stresses or whatnot.
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You know, I feed off of these guys. I feed
off the Mayor of Melbourne that's sitting over there, you know, Brandon,
join us today, and the moments and the and the
intimacy we get to get with each other emotionally. It
just opens up so much room for healing that most
men don't want to go there. I know, and that
that's part. That's why our ministry was founded in twenty sixteen.
(35:16):
Was guys, I just want you to take off your mask,
quit talking about your kids batting average with me, and
let's talk about what's going on with you. You and I
have had that conversation before because we're baseball guys. But
that guy you got vulnerable, and that guy was moved
by the Lord. The Lord move that guy through you somehow,
and why don't we take more opportunities to do that.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
It's shown that men have zero to one best friend.
That's it.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
I've spoken before. I stole it from a friend of mine,
Nate Larkin's, and I've ended it many times where I said, okay, guys,
let's circle up. Do you have six men to carry
your coffin?
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Oh? Wow?
Speaker 5 (35:57):
And if and most of us don't.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Dang, But I love the way you said it better
because I was thinking of corner totters for like, thinking
story of Mark, But I like that better. This is
just such a part of that story. In Mark, it
doesn't talk so much about the man on the mat
his faith. Like do you have those people in your life,
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those men and women that'll say, hey, I see you're
going through a tough time or stuff. I need to
get your butt to Jesus. Yes, Like, I don't care
how we have to do it. You're you're going to church,
go through the roof, but then too the room too,
Like how far did they carry him when they got
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to the spot. Obviously they were a little bit late,
so it was full. How'd they get him on the roof.
I'm sure they had a pulley system or something, but
if they didn't, that's even crazy.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Think how they got him on the roof lumber and shingles,
bro and it was that I'm afraid about falling through
with some fat dude on a stretch.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Okay, well, and apparently it took it took them probably
about two hours to get through the roof for this
friend to get down there, And it's like, do you
have people that are willing to go through all of
that with you for you to get healed? Amen, instead
of just hey, I'll pray with you on Sunday, Like, nah,
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I'm willing if you call me on Monday, if you
call me on two, I'm gonna be there.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
And where do you find men like that?
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Where do you find men like that? First starts young
starts with teaching your kids to have the discernment, the
discernment looking for things like, hey, is that person in
your life? Is that? Are they like? Are they kind?
Are they loving? Do you like? Why are you friends?
Why are you friends with them? Motives understanding that and
(37:56):
then I guess as men taking inventory. Sure, sometimes like
if this person, if I if I don't text them
for a week or a month, will they ever reach
out to me? That might not be a coughing carrier,
you just saying yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah, I've definitely found those guys at church just being
being a part of the men's group, but also making
yourself vulnerable. You know, sometimes you reach out. We always
have opportunities at these men's breakfast to talk about whatever
it is we're going through and.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
We have table time tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Yeah, and that's that's where, that's where you connect with people.
I mean, I met Michael at a men's breakfast years ago.
I think it was the same day that you stood
up talk about it. I'd never met you before, but
we started talking and hanging out, and you know, here
we are four or five years later doing the podcast.
So get yourselves around those kind of men and look
for them. Hopefully you've got a good church or a
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men's group or something you can be a part of.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
It's not enough just to watch online. Yeah, it's not enough.
Like it's got to be uh. And there's a really
cool career. I'm sure they have it here if you're
a big fitting this person F three Yes, Fitness Fellowship. Yes,
they got locations all around. You can get to the morning,
get a morning workout in.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
Those guys are too early for me. But no, and
no one of the guys that organized that here goes
to the church where you're gonna beat them all. Oh yeah,
so yeah, you're right, and we'll make sure and get
you introed.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
And actually I listened to a really cool podcast yesterday.
There's there's men starting a ministry of getting guys together
at breweries.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
That's hey, take it. We meet every Friday, and if
you could have gotten here earlier, we have we called
Barbecue and Bros every Friday. Yeah, and what we used
to call it. We used to call it barbecue, Bruise
and Bros. But I took the bruise out because I
don't want to promote that. But if they want to
have a beer, they can have a beer. Yeah, I
don't care. It's like this podcast. We call ourselves a
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cussin Christians.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
So it's sad. I mean some men they won't step
foot in church, right, bring it to them? Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
And then and that's that's the Church of Acts. Yeah,
you know, around the camp fire, around the dinner table
on the beach side, I mean you know it's there.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
They had they had wine on them tables.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
And I said this before Jesus looked at Peter and said, Peter,
pull my finger.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
You think you're talking about Okay, I get it all right.
Michael Thomas. Every every episode he has one singer he
throws in and he I.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Got one of his father's there right. And I told
my kids, you're lucky you're here because your mother wasn't
in the mood.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
It was up to her. Right.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
Well, man, hey dude, you didn't know what you're giving it.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
Yeah. I love the truth. It's truth. I love it.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Michael Thomas a man the myth legend. So you started
speaking and now you've got your own foundation. Tell me
about what the foundation's doing.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
Yeah. So one thing that we're doing this month actually
is a new first, the first inaugural of this called Reptorize,
where we're striving to get people to move their bodies
for twenty minutes a day with intention, with gratitude for
the sake of people that have disabilities and for being
able body, just because God's blessed you with having a
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healthy body. And on actually the twenty ninth, we're going
to have an in person event and it's it's gone
so well. We had to double the goal, which is
pretty cool. A goal was sixteen, six hundred and twenty
nine dollars and now it's thirty three thousand, six twenty
nine dollars. Yeah, and we're already at like twenty four.
I'm very positive that will make this goal and all
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the money goes towards in the communities of and it
you know, got to spread, which it has only been
three years since I started the foundation. We help individuals
and we help institutions with resources that they need, whether
it's just money grant money for paying your groceries because
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your loved ones had an accident and someone had to
stop working. Those bills don't stop. Whether it's actually going
to a person's house and getting things done for their
house where there's ramps, whether it's doorways. We haven't gotten
to the full renovation part yet, but that that's in
the works. We purchased a vehicle for Brooks Rehab in
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Jacksonville that is going to do two to three hundred
car driving evaluations every year. So there's an impact on
a individual level and a community level either way. The
Patrick Goam Foundation is going to help those as many
as possible finding their path.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
The wholeness car evaluation is people are able to use
the hand control hand control yep, that's right, yep, before
they can actually if you've.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Had a spinal cord injury, if you've had a seizure,
if you've had a stroke, you have to go through
this drive and it's expensive. It's five hundred dollars. Uh.
Not everyone can afford that. So we filling the gap
and we give financial assistance so people can get their
evaluations and eventually we're going to want to be able
to get and pay for those hand controls for people
(43:04):
to get in their vehicles as well. Foundation again, the
Patrick Young Foundation.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Patrick, isn't that a Spanish?
Speaker 4 (43:14):
That's my mom's fault. Blame her.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
She forgot to put the k on there. She's hurry.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
Well, my sister Sarah with no h too.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
So when did you start the SCC network thing again?
Speaker 4 (43:26):
That'll start. We'll start in November. That's when season starts.
Speaker 5 (43:28):
You have to be just enjoying that, especially when you
guys win in the National Championship.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
It was just so strange for me, you know, being
in this space where I don't want to be a
homer what I am and the team's really good. You know,
I chose them. I chose them pre season number three
in the SEC. I didn't choose them number one because
you know, I didn't want to be seen as a
homer again. I had to I had to wait until
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like February after everyone else National Guys, Local guys are saying, oh,
this team can win when it before I could start
saying that this is the championship team and now they
got a chance to be really good again next year.
Speaker 5 (44:10):
Uh. Guys, if if you're not following shit on YouTube
or on your favorite podcast channel, please do. Impactmanistries dot
Org is our website. That's the letter M P a
c T. Ministries. Patrick's book is Sit to Rise, Turning
your darkest pain into your brightest victory. If people want
to check you out as far as where you're speaking
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of what you're doing, your ministry or your foundation, is it
Patrick Young dot com? Yeah, Patrick Com Okay, Okay, Patrick
Young dot com. Okay, we'll put that in the description
of everything. Brad will take care of that. So it's
just a pleasure and honor to have you here, dude.
I'm so glad you're having you came into my life.
Thanks for taking a leap of faith. Bro. Oh yeah,
that's so inspiring.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
And I don't know what I could have taken. No, well,
not a good one.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
I do a bad one, right, right, So we follow
in your sorrow. You know, you know they say, you
know the best way to grow your faith is to
share it and then that's what you do, and you
grow on the inside every time you do it. And
it's so inspiring to hear your story. So thanks so
much tuning in. We will catch you next week with
another amazing person or two to talk about who we are,
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who God says we truly are as his as his children,
has forgiven his holy and his righteous sons, and how
we can better be the spiritual leaders He creates to
be as a father, as a husband, as a friend,
and a community leader. So join us Impactmanistries dot org.
And until then, I'm trade.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
Michael brad Patrick.
Speaker 5 (45:39):
We are the Christian.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Gold in the strength you have.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
My wife was off cranky this week now, so I
shouldered my boods. It did not have the same uns.
Speaker 5 (45:49):
Doesn't that we go all right?
Yo, what are you doing right now?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
We are gonna get real about men's issues, who Jesus
is and who we are as men in Christ. We're
gonna hear Trey, Jeremy, Michael, and Brad break it down.
These guys call themselves the cousin Christians. All right, guys,
what is going on?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Yeah, she's amazing.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
That's nice.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
That's how it happens.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Well, and I'm glad you made it down, dude. Man,
this is fantastic. Patrick Young's joining us today, Patrick without
a kid, Patrick without a kay with us. See, and
he is coming into town because one of the churches
in the area is having a men's breakfast and we
come alongside that church, and a couple of us in
this room go to that church. So and we're looking
(00:49):
forward to the men's breakfast tomorrow. We got a lot
of men that are coming in from different parts of
the county, a lot of guys bringing in their issues
and their troubles, and our ministry is just all about
helping us overcome. Now, dude, we're just glad you're here.
As you know, I've told you about this podcast. We're
imagine four guys sitting around eating wings talking about supports
(01:10):
and talking about Jesus. That's what we do. So I'm
tiggled to death. You're joining us. You got an amazing
book called Sit to Rise. Uh. The tagline is turning
your darkest pain into your brightest victory. We are here
as a ministry to emphasize that there's sometimes we have
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to humble ourselves to be able to move forward in
the grace of God. But the grace this is the
strongest gift that we've ever been given. And I reading
parts of your book and your articles about you and
your life University of Florida starting center, you played, Michael said,
every game Florida didn't miss a game went on, and
(01:54):
before you were like really getting your feet into the
professional career, you had this accident. Man walk me.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Through displayed I played professional. I've got about six years
six years profession years professional. Yeah, before before the accident.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Just the emotions and what you went through mentally, emotionally,
spiritually and obviously physically. Summing up turning your darkest pain
into your biggest, biggest victory. What lessons can we as
guys look from getting to be buds with Patrick Young
and I think we need to get.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Little more specific because it's it's a little that's very broad. Yeah,
I mean it's a coming up. We're coming up on
three years since my accident, So I couldn't tell you
just uh. I mean there's been there's been phases and seasons.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Did you get angry?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
No? I didn't get angry.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Really so you had your faith grounded before?
Speaker 5 (02:43):
No?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
No. I think I think what what a lot of people?
And I think the church sometimes uh fails at highlighting
this thing that's so obvious is that a lot of
times your circumstances are your fault. Yeah, you made choices
in your life life that have put you in the
position that you are. And two parts of it, like
(03:07):
there's a level of gratitude that comes from thinking of, man,
all the stupid crap I did that God protected me
from exactly right, like or like dang, I could have
been dead at or something bad could have happened to
me when I made this decision, that decision whatever. And
then there's the piece of like man like, I'm fortunate
that God stopped me from going further down that path
(03:30):
with this wake up call and to refocus to chay it.
You know, I think perspective is everything if you're not
living in the perspective or as we would all say
in that app that the belief of an absolute truth,
that that is your guidance of everything that you do.
First off, where's your hope gonna come from? Right? Where
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are you going to be guided in the situation that
you're in to not think that the world and your
situation is the end of the world. Because a lot
of people do you know, something really hard happens and
they think, oh, this is it and without having you know,
those components for me, there's no way I'd be where
I am right now.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Can we get the backstory because some people are listening
don't know your story. Yeah, they just know that you
were a basketball player at UF and you didn't miss
a game, so.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Right, So yeah, I played University of Florida from twenty
ten to fourteen, which was such such a blessing to
be a part of that that time. You know, a
lot of people don't want to consider Florida a blue
blood when it comes to basketball, but as a whole
Florida the University of Florida is one of the few
schools that have three national championships in football and basketball.
(04:41):
There's only like six schools that have that, So put
your opinion on that as you want. I did not
put a national championship up there, but we did go
to a final four, which was pretty awesome. So I
played under Billy Donovan my last year, went to the
final four. It was incredible, man, and I really love
this dynamic of it, especially since I'm going to be
(05:04):
talking to some men tomorrow. Uh we coach j Donovan.
He had to deal with some guys on our team
making some poor choices when it came to some drugs
that weren't allowed to be taken quite yet. They weren't
performance enhancing, but you know, maybe you can catch my
drift fill the blank. He made those two guys go
(05:27):
through some counseling and it went so well with those two,
those few guys that we incorporated with the whole team,
and of course, like vulnerability, at first, everyone's got their
guard up. But as soon as the first guy starts
letting that armor down and starts sharing something, then everyone started.
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And it made it made it so because guys will
always say this, Oh, these guys are my brothers that
I'm fighting for. But when you really know what that
guy next to you is dealing with what he's burden,
is what he's struggling and fighting through. You're like, I'm
not letting that guy now because what he's going through.
I feel responsible for that too. And yeah, it was
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priceless the experience I had and the success came after that.
I mean we went we won thirty games in a row.
We were the first team in the SEC that year
to go eighteen and zero win conference and then to
go on to win the tournament. It was. It was
a fantastic year. And then all good things come to
an end. At some point, right came to an end.
(06:31):
It's like, what's next. I was fortunate to go play
basketball for the New Orleans Pelicans, even though I was undrafted.
Team was really bad, so you know, usually when you're
the fifteenth guy on the roster, you're the first one
to go. So I got cut then went overseas. It
was crazy. I got cut and I remember I packed
(06:52):
everything up in New Orleans and my Honda Accord. I
don't know how it all fit. Drove seven hours to
back to Jacksonville. A day later, I was on a
plane to Istanbul, Turkey.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Wow, it's a talent, Like.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
I remember there were two practices that I remember. There
was one we were playing one on one and Ryan Anderson,
he he played at Cal High draft pick, really good
career over and he was he was not twilight years,
but on that first decline of his prime, he scored
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on me like ten times in a row. There was
nothing I could do. I guarded him, I gave, I
gave all of the energy and effort I could to
stopping him. And in the shot he's taking, it's not
an easy shot. He's backing me down and he's turning
around and he's shooting this fade away. But that shot
was like his bread and butter. NBA guys to that level,
(07:50):
they they just know themselves so well. Like Larry Bird,
he's known for being the biggest trash talker. He'd say,
he'd say, Trey, next play, next obsession, I'm going over
to that block. I'm gonna do this little up fake
fake and fake if fake, and then I'm going to
turn around and I'm going to make the shot and
(08:10):
there's nothing you can do about it, nothing you can do,
and then you just go and do it. So I
was never that good, Yeah, but I was.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
I was all right, Yeah, man, I what you said
a little while ago really inspired me because with our ministry,
you know, our calling card verse versus from the Bible
or James five sixteen, confess your sins to one another
and pray for one another and you can begin healing
right and then we also really go into the Galatians
versus about bearing each other's burdens. It sounds like you
(08:41):
guys kind of took on that role in identity during
that time period.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah, well, there's two folds and I buzz Williams says this.
I'm not going to take it from him. There cannot
be any change without truth and then and then there
can be there can be no growth without accountability if
we say that we you know, we can't say we
want to go somewhere and not be truthful about where
(09:06):
we are. A GPS is pointless, It's useless. If it
has it can it can give you all these different
paths of but if it doesn't know where you're starting,
and it's and when you're not asking when it comes
to vulnerability and getting to know people and you're not
asking them to, you know, give all the deepest parts
of their soul right away. But there is there going
to be a point or a certain relationship where that's necessary.
(09:27):
Maybe absolutely, But it is like having more than just
a surface level relationship that's based off of Uh, our
kids go to school together, so we're friends by proximity,
or we're we like fantasy football. We like this team,
so that's why we're friends. It's like is this guy
this person? And in Hebrews that says it, and like
(09:48):
running your race. If marriage is something that you feel
called to do, is this person helping elevate you? Or
are they a weight and you being a good husband
and a good father towards Because that's that's I mean.
Men that have been called to be fathers and husbands,
I think the calling for them is even so much
more higher, you know, in what God is calling men
(10:09):
to do to love their wives and their family, is
Christ love the Church, to be willing to die for them.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
See these guys know my story and the reason I'm
in a relationship with this guy and doing impact ministries
is because coming to that point of truth and saying
to myself, I can't isolate myself anymore. I am miserable.
I am at the point where I don't want to
(10:36):
live this life anymore. So I went to a breakfast
like we're having tomorrow, and during that time, I stood
up and I said, Trey, I'm a fixer. I try
to fix things. I try to do that on my own.
And there's a lot of men that do that, Yeah,
for sure. And I finally told him during that time
at that breakfast, I can't fix what's going on me anymore,
(10:58):
so that truth can out. And for me, that totally
flipped my relationship with Christ and brought me so much
further than what I could do on my own.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Yeah, it's so it's so beautiful. It reminds me of
like you got to a point there's something that made
you say, Okay, I can't do this on the exactly.
And I thought the same thing when I was just
in a situation where I felt like I couldn't change anything. God,
I need you, I need you, help me, help me,
And I felt this conviction you always need me. Yeah, yeah,
(11:32):
it might be more like your senses or your awareness
might be more, but you we always need him and anytime,
and that's what you know. It's and I'm sure you
talk about it a lot. With the Ministry of Fighting Pride,
we have to be relentless in seeing the pride and
where it shows up. It is so hard. We can
(11:53):
have willpower, all of us can, but at a certain
point our willpower is going to run out and the
enemy once to still kill and destroy, but he also
wants to pacify us. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Having a pocket God meaning we take him out of
our pocket when we need him, and then we put
him back in when things are going cool and smooth.
And that's how I lived my life because it was
like God, I need you.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
Huh, So I take him out of my pocket.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Yeah, I need you?
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Are you show the others in the road you got him?
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Yeah? Yeah, like like some type of like a card
that you oh yeah, no, I'm called I got it.
I got it. Yeah, And that's the only time you
bring it out is exactly yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Yeah, And that's that pride thing.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
So you were playing basketball over in Turkey for a while.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
So, uh, career went. I was in Turkey first team
first year is then Bull Turkey with a team called Galatasaraye.
That was from like December fourth to May twenty eighth.
I remember those dates because I was ready to get
out of there. Not that I didn't enjoy it, it
was just like that was my first time like truly
being away from home for so long, for so far.
(13:01):
And then after that team I was in Greece for
two years. That's where I really look back and think,
I wish I could have maximized those times a little
bit better. Uh, just because they value and love sports
so much over there, there's so much attention that come
like the pride is gonna come in there, like you're
gonna start thinking higher of yourself, Thank you deserve that
(13:23):
this and that. The temptations are there, the deception of
sin will tell you, oh, well, I'm not as bad
as that guy. You're both still sinning. That's like, that's
like saying, hey, guys, let's have a let's have a
contest who can jump the furthest in the Grand Canyon. Yeah,
you're still gonna You're still going down, Yeah exactly, And
without proper guidance, it's just a matter of time before
(13:46):
you just start falling off of being who you are.
God doesn't move, but you realize, like like a drift,
you're getting pulled, pulled in every direction and you're like, dang,
how did I get this far from from the starting place?
And I'm just grateful for God's great faithfulness and mercy
and grace, because I'm thinking if I was him looking
(14:06):
at me, I would have been like, dude, I'm tired
of dealing with your stuff, just.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
When you know, we all have different stories, different testimonies.
I know I I really didn't start connecting the dots
as a professed believer till later in life, and it
was a suicidal moment. And when I started connecting that
dots of his grace and how powerful he was, and
how I oftentimes didn't appreciate that. Often times I wasn't
(14:40):
in awe of who he was or what he did
on the cross and the resurrection. But at some point
we all start connecting those dots. When when was that
for you?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Yeah? I wonder what it is, you know, whether it's
getting desensitized from the gospel because you hear it so much,
or were you raised as a believer yeah, okay, yeah,
or is it church is not doing a great job
of putting all into our eyes or looking at the
stars and like thinking how incredible. But there's a disconnect
(15:10):
there somewhere of God's grandeur, like oh my gosh, it's
glory and part of it for me is you know
when I went on to college and experienced consequences of sin,
when you realize, like dang, life is not going the
way I thought it would. I don't know how to
handle these situations. I must be doing something wrong and
(15:33):
getting called out in truth and love. Like having in college,
I was able to maintain these two personalities, or these
two faces. I would say personality was the same, but
two different faces. When I was around the athletes and
action group, I was one guy. I was at all
the events, the big Mondays. But then when I was
in the locker room with the guys, same personality, but
(15:57):
the motives and the intentions and the the swaying and
the conversation, it's all so different. You would, without a word,
without a doubt, hypocrite and thank God for someone that
loved me, that deposited enough enemy that I could take
their confrontation. If you want to use that word, and
(16:19):
know that it's not coming from a place of like
you're bad. It's like, no, I love you and I
want to get you off that this path you're on on.
That was when the dots started connecting from me.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Wow, So in your actual college years, not not post
college Okay, that's that's big because you know we had
that event in Gainswelle last year with Tim and Zach right, yeah, yeah,
And the whole message of that night was, you know,
the statistics are staggering. The the eighteen year old Christian
that leaves and goes away to college, over two thirds
(16:48):
walk away from their faith. That's a dangerous statistic. And
Jason Shack and I were talking about he said, that's true.
Now a lot come back, they come back, but that
numbers dec So that was a whole purpose of that
event in Gainsville was to stay true to what the
seeds have been planted in you what what words of
wisdom would you have for that college student today? Well,
(17:11):
there's so much coming in.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
I don't want to I don't want to have to
come at parents like this. But it's it's a book
that I read. There was so good the Disciple Making
Parent and it it first and early in the book.
It dispels a lot of myths. First off, you can
do everything perfectly and it still doesn't guarantee that your
kids are going to come to Christ. That that's so
(17:34):
so you know, like there is a point in time
where your children have to make their own decisions without
a doubt. And one of the biggest ones that I
saw that I really related to. It talked about the
myth of parents thinking if I just put them in
the right places, then they'll get it, versus I need
(17:56):
to be the example of not only And I can
attest to this, you know, like my parents grew up
and grew up in church and and I would say,
you know, we're God fearing family, but when we at home,
you know, there was a disconnect in what you saw.
You know, more as more is caught than what's taught,
And it kind of seemed like it was something we
(18:16):
kind of just sprinkled into our lives, and that instead
of it being like the foundation, like how this table
is the foundation of what of of everything for us
right now in this moment, uh for this, for this podcast,
Like it wasn't the foundation. So that's a huge piece
of it. I think God is okay if we're coming
to him with questions. It's when you're it's when you're
(18:38):
not you're you're like, I'm my heart is heart and
I don't want to hear anything ever, Like they'll stay
away from people like that and try not to become
a person like that as well.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I think for some of us, it's just like for
me because I grew up in the church as well.
My parents were great. But it wasn't until I hit
a point where I knew I needed him. I mean,
like you said, we do need him. But when when
I got my girlfriend pregnant, and and you know my
you know, I was always the golden child, you know,
at home and everything, and my parents thought I could
do no wrong. And I had to write them a
letter saying, hey, I got this girl pregnant. And that
(19:12):
letter that I know, well, it's funny. It's funny because
she's my wife. Now, we've been married thirty six years.
So that worked out. But her mom called her. Her
mom had a very prophetic, you know, gifting and she
called my Mike at the time. My girlfriend says, God
told me you're pregnant, and so wow. So my wife
didn't even have to say anything. I'm like, I can't
tell my parents, like, I just can't. So I wrote
(19:33):
them a letter, send it to you know, mailed it
to him this thirty years ago. I mailed him a letter.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
But but but I tell you.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I knew, you know, even before then I knew I
need to be training to God. I could feel him
drawing me, but I was just putting him off. But
when that happened, it's like, okay, I know, like this
is it. Like I got to get my stuff together
because now I'm responsible, responsible for a wife and a daughter.
And so it was that moment for me. But you know,
we grew up in the church and we had been
exposed to the Word and you know, good parenting and
(20:01):
all that. But I don't know. I guess for each
of us it takes something different. And you know, hopefully
some people have the grace to I guess turn that
over to Him before they get to a crisis moment.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
You know, I've heard this false heart. There's no grandparents,
there's no parents. We're all children of God. And I
know you and both have talked about the fact that
you were living your parents' relationship with Christ and so me,
I got so many stories.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I grew up.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Catholic, but I don't even want to go there right
now because I'll get off freaky about that anyway. So
I know that I didn't have my parents' relationship with
Christ growing up because they didn't have one. But you
guys talk about it. I don't know if that's what
you are meaning when you say because we all have
to have that personal relationship with Jesus Christ and it
(20:54):
comes down to being a child of God and how
we relate to God in that relationship.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Even after college and being a pro there's still are
you all the way committed? Are you all the way submitted?
And there's moments where God confronts us multiple times I
think you can't live half in with him? And going
(21:22):
through this accident that really solidified do you believe in God?
You know really or just like brought that to the forefront.
Do you believe God is who he says he is
and what he says about you? And if you do,
then what are you worried about? You know that you
know God never said, oops, what am I going to
(21:43):
do in this situation? That he's not caught off guard?
And always say this, I'm so grateful. God is not
like us. Yeah, he's not like us. We are made
in his image, but he doesn't doubt, He's never confused.
So it's just put you in a position where I'm like,
(22:03):
I want to see what God is going to do
through all this and in the meantime, the good that's
come from it, I'm waiting on the Lord, waiting for
an answers here or there, for this or for that.
But like, what about today? What can I do today?
It's a lot I can do today. It's a lot
of all of us can do today. It's a lot
of all of us can do tomorrow and the day
after that and the day after that, and just trying
(22:25):
to keep stacking wins for the Lord's That's kind of
where I've been at.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
Do you want to share about your accident? Can you?
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Yeah? For sure?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
How many years ago now?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
It'll be on June Windy, ninth of Bey three years
I was up in Nebraska doing some work for irrigation company,
and it was it was early in the morning, it
was about I mean, we start working at he comes
to the guy will come to picking up around four
point fifty am. And we were finishing up a job
where we were transporting one of these big parts of
(22:58):
a pivot that can be about one hundred and fifty
feet long, and we had one more piece that we
were going to go and grab and it was right
up the road and I was in a bit of
a rush to get up there because there was a
phone call I needed to make, and before you know it,
the moment not being locked in on the moment, you know,
being on this dirt road I wasn't familiar with and
(23:19):
coming up on the highway where you know, I couldn't
see any vehicles coming. My cargoes completely parallel to the road,
and the momentum takes it off the side. Thing got
nobody else got injured, and the truck flips over one
time and when it lands back on all fours, I
just feel this pop in my back and knew something
was immediately wrong. And I never hit my head or anything,
so I was fully aware of everything that was going on,
(23:43):
and it was it was just surreal. So I, as
you can imagine, you brace up in that moment, and
that felt a pop in my back, and that pop
was my t seven getting dislocated and pinchon into the
spinal cord YEP, and then I don't know, thirty minutes later,
I'm want a helicopter getting life lighted to a hospital
(24:04):
in South Dakota where I have an eight and a
half hour surgery that puts two rods and twelve screws
in my.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Back and this was how long after your career had
ended basketball playing?
Speaker 4 (24:16):
I pretty much stopped playing basketball in twenty twenty. That
was my last like professional team, and early in twenty
twenty one, I was still kind of like, ah, maybe
and uh, but I was. I was pretty much done
with basketball before the accident. Okay, but there's seventeen thousand
new spinal cord injuries every year, about forty nine a day.
(24:37):
You're kidding forty nine a day.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
So you had this accident and you did something amazing
a few days later? Yeah, what did I do? Didn't
you get married like a few days?
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Oh? Yeah I did?
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Yeah, eight days or seven days after or something like that.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Oh it was July seventh. Yeah, yeah, so we initially
were gonna get married on July tenth? Was the date?
July ninth or drown? I mean, it just all kind
of blurred together. We jumped in not even knowing fully
what the future. You know, I'm saying fully you're not
gonna know fully what the future is gonna hold, but
(25:17):
at least even having like a flashlight, so I you know,
what's the next year gonna kind of look like? And
we didn't even have that. And even though you know,
being married and becoming a stepdad was one of the
greatest things that I've was blessed to have. I mean,
it just wasn't built on at time, on a foundation
(25:39):
that she was content with and that I was even
ready to hold. I mean, new body, new husband, new
dad just too much, too much to put on anybody,
and we ended up we ended up getting separated. And
that's that's part of my story though, you know, that's
part of the story. And how do you still when
(26:02):
even parts and components of things, or even taking a
step back, when your dream is destroyed or it's just gone,
or that thing that you thought you you wanted, how
where do you go from there? Whether that is marriage,
whether that's a career thing, whether how do you still
have hope that that is in the end? And I'm
(26:24):
a living testament of that.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
How do you come back from being separated?
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Obviously, it's it's it's a process. You know, I don't
believe in the homage of time heals all time might
uh you know, in the same way that you might
just put some stuff under a rug and think, ah,
you know, we kind of just can forget about it.
You know, it's an it's a wound. It's an it's
(26:50):
a wound that needs to be treated properly in for
in order for it to heal. Time can be absolutely
be a help of that. But you know, you need,
I think for a for a real wound to heal,
it needs to be in the perfect setting. It can't
be too dry, it can't be too wet, it needs
to be protected from infection. It needs to have someone
needs to have eyes on it. Like men, men that
(27:12):
are hearing this. If you're dealing with an open wound
and your your chest cavity is open, you can't just
put a shirt on it to act like it's all
gonna be all right.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Oh gosh, that's beautiful anology.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
You can't. Yeah, yeah, could you imagine? You know, there's
a lot of men, Yeah, I know, I know many.
I know many that are dealing with dad wounds, mom wounds,
relationship wounds, and they think, oh, I'm just gonna get
through this thing without any type of therapy, any type
of prayer, any type of intention. And one of the
(27:44):
stuffs for me of healing and this was like I'm
spending my time around people that I know are predictable,
Like I'm spending time with my best friends. I'm spending
time with my family. I'm spending time in areas where
I know it's going to be. And I'm not saying
you got to orchestrate all the parts of your life,
but in terms of trying me trying to become whole
again and being okay and moving past what's happened, I
(28:09):
had to be you kind of got to protect your energy,
be selfish in that way. And yeah, I like spending
time with my best friends and their little kids. That's
been so life giving to me. And uh, you know,
my hope and dream will be to get married again
and have kids one day. But I'm not I'm ever
going to do things on my own timing. That's not
going to happen.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
You know, you've overcome a lot physically, emotionally, spiritually, and
all that time kind of you know, started to uh
ebb on, you started connecting the dots and now you're
just influencing so many people with your story and everything else.
How did that get going? On?
Speaker 4 (28:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:48):
I mean you're you're you're you're doing basketball for the
SEC network, right, yeah, and you're doing that a commentary
and then you're I saw you speak in front of
a couple hundred kids at the SCA and I knew
I had to get a hold of you. Yeah, tell
me about that journey.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Yeah. I think I think for for a lot of
us in general, that maybe you feel called to do something,
there's a level of fear. Oh yeah, there, Like even
even with the SEC Network job, and this is before
the accident, Like I felt that was a calling of mine,
but I still had fear can I do this job?
And it took reps, It took it took uh, you know,
(29:27):
working with being in the actual environment too to see like, Okay,
how are the people that I'm working around with? And
it helped me to say, no, you're You're meant to
be here, You're meant to be doing this. And it
was and this is talking about sports. When it came
to like going through this accident and like thinking about
starting a foundation, Like no one would have blamed me
(29:50):
if I was all just thinking internally in me. But
some reason God put it on my heart to be
thinking about others and giving and going and doing. And
that was in the form of starting a foundation of
wanting to help people as that have gone through what
I'm going through and have no help and they need
(30:11):
financial resources they need like they might need a wheelchair
rant built around their house or it doesn't matter, it
doesn't like my foundation. I saw that there's such a
gap and what insurance says, Okay, you have life, now
go back to living it and to what actually is
life giving to people and then stepping out on the
(30:33):
stage and wanting to share your story like I didn't
feel ready for that. There was a high level of fear,
and I just felt God, say go do it, Just
go do it, trust me and go do it before
you're ready. I mean, I thought of all the people
that he had used, that stutterers, adulterers, liars, this, and
that he can use me. And my favorite story I
(30:56):
love to share was the first page speaking engagement I
ever had the company in Jacksonville. I wasn't ready. It
was in November of the same year I had had
the accident, and I'm like, well, uh, in my mind,
I'm just like, okay, all right, just gonna go and
do our best.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
What do I have to give?
Speaker 4 (31:13):
What do I have to give?
Speaker 5 (31:14):
I gets in there and goes there.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I don't want to hear that.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Oh it was more so, it was more so just like,
are you sure you're you're not you know what do
you really have to share? You're not Eric Thomas, You're
not Tim Tebow, You're not thinking more kind of just
kind of disqualify me in that way I go and speak.
It's a half hybrid, half in person event. And I mean,
(31:40):
I'm like, okay, I did okay, Like I, you know,
have some good questions. I need some more reps. That
that's my kind of carnal mindset I'm having towards this
how did I do? What? Do every what does everybody think?
Go through some more life? Right, write the book, get
a bunch more reps, go into and they bring you
back to speaking in the next year. So obviously I
(32:01):
must have did okay. And I felt super confident in
how I presented this next time, and like, you couldn't
have told me I did anything wrong. I was like,
oh man, I dominated this event. But the most meaningful
part of it was that there was a man waiting
to come talk to me at the end of this.
And I'd never seen this guy before and I don't
(32:22):
know his name now, and I'm am a terrible person
for not remembering it. Yes, you can tell me that
he waits till everybody's gone, and he says, I wasn't
here last year, but I watched online through zoom. He said,
I had the method, the plan, and the note for
how I was going to take my life last year. Wow,
(32:43):
the method, the note, and the plan. He said, you
saved my life. He said something about you coming up
in the middle of your circumstances not having answers just
sobered my mind from whatever I was in. And gosh,
you won't to talk about an affirmation, okid to keep
(33:04):
going because you weren't.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
It wasn't candy coated, and you were just honest and
saying that was it. This is fresh. I got fresh wounds.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
And there were a lot of people there at that day,
like they're like, your accident was just how long ago? Yeah? Yeah,
I look back. I can't say I recommend, you know,
trying to go do something for other people right after
a major traumatic event that's happened. But in this case
it worked.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
God leaving the ninety nine going after the one.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
It reminds me of the story of Gideon, when you
know he was hiding on wine press and God, God
says a risey body man Feler and he's like, I'm
not a mighty man. He's like, I'm the least of
my family and my family, Yeah, and he says, go
in the strength you have, and it sounds like that's
that's what God said to you. Like you didn't think
you were ready, you didn't have it all polished, but
he said, go in the strength you have, and look
what effect that had on somebody.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Still do we still need to like always give our best,
absolutely and like prepare of course, but like we can't
let that get in the way of being obedient of
like nah God, Like Lord's saying, no, no, no, don't worry.
I called you to this. Go I got it. Yeah,
go go go do that thing, Go start that business,
(34:12):
go call that person. Whatever I'm I will take care
of the rest. And yeah, I mean so it just
goes to show, like with a mustard seed amount of obedience, guy,
can gosh make a runway of impact and redemption through that.
Speaker 5 (34:31):
Yeah. You know you're talking earlier about wounds. Yeah, and
obviously you have some scars. And the thing about the
scars is you overcame a wound, it's been healed, right,
And so many times with those guys we just hide
behind masks and never show what our wounds are, what
our fears are, what our anxieties are, our stresses or whatnot.
(34:53):
You know, I feed off of these guys. I feed
off the Mayor of Melbourne that's sitting over there, you know, Brandon,
join us today, and the moments and the and the
intimacy we get to get with each other emotionally. It
just opens up so much room for healing that most
men don't want to go there. I know, and that
that's part. That's why our ministry was founded in twenty sixteen.
(35:16):
Was guys, I just want you to take off your mask,
quit talking about your kids batting average with me, and
let's talk about what's going on with you. You and I
have had that conversation before because we're baseball guys. But
that guy you got vulnerable, and that guy was moved
by the Lord. The Lord move that guy through you somehow,
and why don't we take more opportunities to do that.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
It's shown that men have zero to one best friend.
That's it.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
I've spoken before. I stole it from a friend of mine,
Nate Larkin's, and I've ended it many times where I said, okay, guys,
let's circle up. Do you have six men to carry
your coffin?
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Oh? Wow?
Speaker 5 (35:57):
And if and most of us don't.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Dang, But I love the way you said it better
because I was thinking of corner totters for like, thinking
story of Mark, But I like that better. This is
just such a part of that story. In Mark, it
doesn't talk so much about the man on the mat
his faith. Like do you have those people in your life,
(36:22):
those men and women that'll say, hey, I see you're
going through a tough time or stuff. I need to
get your butt to Jesus. Yes, Like, I don't care
how we have to do it. You're you're going to church,
go through the roof, but then too the room too,
Like how far did they carry him when they got
(36:45):
to the spot. Obviously they were a little bit late,
so it was full. How'd they get him on the roof.
I'm sure they had a pulley system or something, but
if they didn't, that's even crazy.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Think how they got him on the roof lumber and shingles,
bro and it was that I'm afraid about falling through
with some fat dude on a stretch.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
Okay, well, and apparently it took it took them probably
about two hours to get through the roof for this
friend to get down there, And it's like, do you
have people that are willing to go through all of
that with you for you to get healed? Amen, instead
of just hey, I'll pray with you on Sunday, Like, nah,
(37:27):
I'm willing if you call me on Monday, if you
call me on two, I'm gonna be there.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
And where do you find men like that?
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Where do you find men like that? First starts young
starts with teaching your kids to have the discernment, the
discernment looking for things like, hey, is that person in
your life? Is that? Are they like? Are they kind?
Are they loving? Do you like? Why are you friends?
Why are you friends with them? Motives understanding that and
(37:56):
then I guess as men taking inventory. Sure, sometimes like
if this person, if I if I don't text them
for a week or a month, will they ever reach
out to me? That might not be a coughing carrier,
you just saying yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah, I've definitely found those guys at church just being
being a part of the men's group, but also making
yourself vulnerable. You know, sometimes you reach out. We always
have opportunities at these men's breakfast to talk about whatever
it is we're going through and.
Speaker 5 (38:26):
We have table time tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Yeah, and that's that's where, that's where you connect with people.
I mean, I met Michael at a men's breakfast years ago.
I think it was the same day that you stood
up talk about it. I'd never met you before, but
we started talking and hanging out, and you know, here
we are four or five years later doing the podcast.
So get yourselves around those kind of men and look
for them. Hopefully you've got a good church or a
(38:48):
men's group or something you can be a part of.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
It's not enough just to watch online. Yeah, it's not enough.
Like it's got to be uh. And there's a really
cool career. I'm sure they have it here if you're
a big fitting this person F three Yes, Fitness Fellowship. Yes,
they got locations all around. You can get to the morning,
get a morning workout in.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
Those guys are too early for me. But no, and
no one of the guys that organized that here goes
to the church where you're gonna beat them all. Oh yeah,
so yeah, you're right, and we'll make sure and get
you introed.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
And actually I listened to a really cool podcast yesterday.
There's there's men starting a ministry of getting guys together
at breweries.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
That's hey, take it. We meet every Friday, and if
you could have gotten here earlier, we have we called
Barbecue and Bros every Friday. Yeah, and what we used
to call it. We used to call it barbecue, Bruise
and Bros. But I took the bruise out because I
don't want to promote that. But if they want to
have a beer, they can have a beer. Yeah, I
don't care. It's like this podcast. We call ourselves a
(39:48):
cussin Christians.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
So it's sad. I mean some men they won't step
foot in church, right, bring it to them? Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
And then and that's that's the Church of Acts. Yeah,
you know, around the camp fire, around the dinner table
on the beach side, I mean you know it's there.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
They had they had wine on them tables.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
And I said this before Jesus looked at Peter and said, Peter,
pull my finger.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
You think you're talking about Okay, I get it all right.
Michael Thomas. Every every episode he has one singer he
throws in and he I.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Got one of his father's there right. And I told
my kids, you're lucky you're here because your mother wasn't
in the mood.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
It was up to her. Right.
Speaker 5 (40:31):
Well, man, hey dude, you didn't know what you're giving it.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
Yeah. I love the truth. It's truth. I love it.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Michael Thomas a man the myth legend. So you started
speaking and now you've got your own foundation. Tell me
about what the foundation's doing.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
Yeah. So one thing that we're doing this month actually
is a new first, the first inaugural of this called Reptorize,
where we're striving to get people to move their bodies
for twenty minutes a day with intention, with gratitude for
the sake of people that have disabilities and for being
able body, just because God's blessed you with having a
(41:11):
healthy body. And on actually the twenty ninth, we're going
to have an in person event and it's it's gone
so well. We had to double the goal, which is
pretty cool. A goal was sixteen, six hundred and twenty
nine dollars and now it's thirty three thousand, six twenty
nine dollars. Yeah, and we're already at like twenty four.
I'm very positive that will make this goal and all
(41:35):
the money goes towards in the communities of and it
you know, got to spread, which it has only been
three years since I started the foundation. We help individuals
and we help institutions with resources that they need, whether
it's just money grant money for paying your groceries because
(41:56):
your loved ones had an accident and someone had to
stop working. Those bills don't stop. Whether it's actually going
to a person's house and getting things done for their
house where there's ramps, whether it's doorways. We haven't gotten
to the full renovation part yet, but that that's in
the works. We purchased a vehicle for Brooks Rehab in
(42:17):
Jacksonville that is going to do two to three hundred
car driving evaluations every year. So there's an impact on
a individual level and a community level either way. The
Patrick Goam Foundation is going to help those as many
as possible finding their path.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
The wholeness car evaluation is people are able to use
the hand control hand control yep, that's right, yep, before
they can actually if you've.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Had a spinal cord injury, if you've had a seizure,
if you've had a stroke, you have to go through
this drive and it's expensive. It's five hundred dollars. Uh.
Not everyone can afford that. So we filling the gap
and we give financial assistance so people can get their
evaluations and eventually we're going to want to be able
to get and pay for those hand controls for people
(43:04):
to get in their vehicles as well. Foundation again, the
Patrick Young Foundation.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Patrick, isn't that a Spanish?
Speaker 4 (43:14):
That's my mom's fault. Blame her.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
She forgot to put the k on there. She's hurry.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
Well, my sister Sarah with no h too.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
So when did you start the SCC network thing again?
Speaker 4 (43:26):
That'll start. We'll start in November. That's when season starts.
Speaker 5 (43:28):
You have to be just enjoying that, especially when you
guys win in the National Championship.
Speaker 4 (43:32):
It was just so strange for me, you know, being
in this space where I don't want to be a
homer what I am and the team's really good. You know,
I chose them. I chose them pre season number three
in the SEC. I didn't choose them number one because
you know, I didn't want to be seen as a
homer again. I had to I had to wait until
(43:56):
like February after everyone else National Guys, Local guys are saying, oh,
this team can win when it before I could start
saying that this is the championship team and now they
got a chance to be really good again next year.
Speaker 5 (44:10):
Uh. Guys, if if you're not following shit on YouTube
or on your favorite podcast channel, please do. Impactmanistries dot
Org is our website. That's the letter M P a
c T. Ministries. Patrick's book is Sit to Rise, Turning
your darkest pain into your brightest victory. If people want
to check you out as far as where you're speaking
(44:31):
of what you're doing, your ministry or your foundation, is it
Patrick Young dot com? Yeah, Patrick Com Okay, Okay, Patrick
Young dot com. Okay, we'll put that in the description
of everything. Brad will take care of that. So it's
just a pleasure and honor to have you here, dude.
I'm so glad you're having you came into my life.
Thanks for taking a leap of faith. Bro. Oh yeah,
that's so inspiring.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
And I don't know what I could have taken. No, well,
not a good one.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
I do a bad one, right, right, So we follow
in your sorrow. You know, you know they say, you
know the best way to grow your faith is to
share it and then that's what you do, and you
grow on the inside every time you do it. And
it's so inspiring to hear your story. So thanks so
much tuning in. We will catch you next week with
another amazing person or two to talk about who we are,
(45:19):
who God says we truly are as his as his children,
has forgiven his holy and his righteous sons, and how
we can better be the spiritual leaders He creates to
be as a father, as a husband, as a friend,
and a community leader. So join us Impactmanistries dot org.
And until then, I'm trade.
Speaker 4 (45:37):
Michael brad Patrick.
Speaker 5 (45:39):
We are the Christian.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Gold in the strength you have.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
My wife was off cranky this week now, so I
shouldered my boods. It did not have the same uns.
Speaker 5 (45:49):
Doesn't that we go all right?
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