February 28, 2025 • 38 mins
The band Fuel had a ton of success with household-known songs like "Hemorrhage (In My Hands)" "Shimmer" "Bad Day" and "Won't Back Down" just to name a few in the late 90s and early 2000s. Since then they've gone through a ton of changes and challenges, but now they are back and better than ever. Original members Carl and Kevin join me and my morning show co-host Laura Lee, along with their new singer Aaron to go through the band's recent past and dig into the resurgence of the music from the turn of the century.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Attention plays and No It cutters rock cast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Good morning. Hello, we have a band hanging out with
us this morning. There they are called Fuel. Hey guys
doing man, it's good to see you. Yeah, what are
you doing here? Why are you here?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Nobody told us.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
No. Honestly, it's funny because, uh, Laura and I saw
this commercial for a show you guys obviously played this
past weekend at North Stark Casino with them Lit, and
we're like, both of us are like, what, I want
to go to that show? And then of course there
was a snowstorm over the weekend and we had a
bunch of other stuff going on too, so we couldn't
make it.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Well, you were sick and I have front wheel drive, so.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah, it was difficult.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
It was a pretty gnarly night that night, it was.
It did come down pretty good.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So yeah, some individuals they were there.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, that's awesome and that's all that that's all that matters.
The show is good. Was great, awesome, Fuel and Lit together,
This is that's a cool little package of really living
the early two thousd's late nineties Dream.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Were there and they're great. I knew of them and
we had never met that much but they're great and
they've been really good, and it's been a fun tour
with these guys, you know, and it's you know, they're
you know, southern California guys and they kind of bringing
the punk snotty kind of feeling. Yeah, it's great and
they got some great songs.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
You know, if I.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Remember when I was they first started playing, I went, oh,
yeah that song, Oh yeah, that song.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
It's really cool.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
So it's we're having a lot of fun with them.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
That's awesome. I think you get the same thing when
you hear Fuel though it's yeah that song. I mean,
we all know hemorrhage, right obviously, Yeah, and all the
but you guys have had songs and you still release
great songs to this day. Kind of we were talking
about that with a different band not that long ago.
It's like, oh, you're one of those bands where I
hear you go see the live show and it's.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
You think you know one or two songs. I know
that when I know that.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, Bittersweet, bad Day, Innocent, hemorrhage, Jesus Gun. I mean
we have, you know a lot of songs hit the airwaves.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Back down off Daredevil. We had a bunch of Daredevil soundtracks.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I forgot about that one. Have those songs on my favorites. Listen,
I still.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Forgot about it on screen three.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Oh yeah, that's right. The soundtracks back.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
When they did movies with soundtracks, you know what I mean?
After the you know, Titanic was such a huge thing
and they but now a I.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Right, they wrote a whole album.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Do anything, no Grammys for you?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Write me a song about no, no, No. What we
learned a couple of weeks ago at the Grammys is
they can still win a Grammy with a I as
long as they pretend it's based off of a dead member.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Right, they can clean it up. I like, it can't
be written.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
You guys have any you guys have any dead members? No, no, no,
don't even know that. We're not gonna get that dark
put the soundtracks, man, Like, Honestly, you just spark sparked
a memory of so many of those soundtracks and that
period of tie I had so much great rock music on.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
It, right, dude, Listen, every almost every plane flight that
I get on, because like my lamin it might be
hanging on my backpack or something, and uh, you know
somebody would be like they'll look at it and they're like, what,
why do I Why do I know that name? And
like you guys, you guys are a band. I'm like yeah,
and they're like, well, would I know any of the songs?
(03:22):
And I'll pull out my phone and I'll start with
like Shimmer and like, oh my god, that was my
favorite song in college, and then I'll play bad Day,
like holy crap, I remember now, I remember from the
video you got in the fist fight, you know. But
but you just keep going through all the songs and
they don't realize the catalog that we had, and I
don't know, for some reason, we were a faceless band,
(03:43):
like it just probably you know, I was really handsome
then right now I'm old and decrepit, but you're pretty handsome.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
You entertain that with people, like do you ever go
like Limp Biscuit or Limp Biscuit, I mean, or do
you just you know, you're always just entertaining people.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
It's just it's a weird thing. And then you know,
or you know, somebody claims to be a fan and
then they're you know, I'm standing there at the merch
booth and they're asking me when the drummer's coming out.
He'll be here in a minute.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Here about twenty years ago, exactly when I.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Was eighty, I thought you were looking good for eight
goods you buddy?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Are you sixty toixty two? I got a six pack? Damn?
What's what's the secret?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Red wine? Copious amounts?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I don't think are you writing that down, Laura? I
am actually.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Just did three hundred set ups on the exercise bomb.
Three hundred setups?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
What the you know? It's crazy, it's my king got
into workout.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Well, it's it's it's being a drummer, and you know,
it's it's a taxing instrum. It's very physically taxing. And
I don't want to be that guy back there to
not deliver the show that I want to give him
my head because the day that I do that, I
don't want to play anymore, right, and I don't want
to stop playing. So therefore I hit the gym several
days a week. Do you know. I'm not a big
cardio guy, but I do a lot of repetitive stuff, lightweight,
(05:15):
high reps, just to stay going.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Quite a bit, I go, I try to work out
with it.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Yeah, until he says, here, just grab those twenty pound
dumbellsupy like, oh twenty that's not too heavy. Yeah, And
then do this thirty times, and then do this thirty times, and.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
All of a sudden, those those twenty pound dumbbells become
real heavy. Yes, I can't let him down.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
We're gonna grab the video guy and have him arm
wrestle you after this.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I think so you go to call it out her
arm wrestle each other.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah, I think you should.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
That would be fun. No, go to the website. Go
to our website, Fuel Official. You'll see Kevin. He's uh,
he's rocking sixty two.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Good. Seriously, Well, I'm gonna do that right now in
a minute. If if Laura is going to make you
arm wrestle you, I need to know.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I just he did. And it got big probably still
beat shopping car.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
And it got bigger. Yes, yes, it got bigger.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Okay, it looks like it it's a boulder.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
It is, Oh my god. Yeah, I can't compete with that.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I wouldn't suggest why, like Laura wants to hurt me.
The Facebook Fuel Official Facebook, you only.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
You have more know more about the shopping cart?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Is it like?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Literally when I roll over in bed and I pulled
it like there's something right above like my pack, Like
I somehow managed to stress my pack out when I
roll over in bed.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
So on your shopping cart, let's make sure it hit follows.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
It was a couple of days before a couple of
days before Thanksgiving. I was we were going to my
in laws place, our cousins of my wife.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
And the one's coming out of the stage.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
They'll probably never hear this. I'll just say something is
to be desired. And the one thing they always wreck
is the gravy.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
So I went away. The one thing you always wreck
is the gravy.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
They wrecked the gravy every time for Thanksgiving. Yeah, And
so I saw they had some some jarred gravy, and
I'm like, you know what, I'm just going to get
some of this just to be safe in case they
wrecked the gravy. But long story short, I said it
in the top of the cart and I normally have
my two boys with me. I have a five year
old on the seven year old, and I didn't close
(07:27):
that little plastic thing where the legs go. And when
I went to push the cart as the glass jar
started falling out, the whole of I went to grab
the gravy and hit the bar that you put your
hands on to push the cart, and it just blew
my bicep apart. Good god, isn't there a video?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Wow? You got to talk into a microphone. I'm sorry.
Right here there it is there, Laura. Oh, let me
ask for her. Are you single? A? He did this?
He can run you can see too. Yeah. Yeah, man,
damn good for you.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
You know when a guy like that pops up on Tinder,
they're fake.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
So's it's just pictures of Kevin.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
It's a it's the drummer from Fuel.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Someone's going to use that picture of you like you're fake, like,
but you don't find that on tender.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
There's any video of me walking out here a couple
of weeks after that.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Seriously, I'm a boy in dude, No, you don't want
to know what this is.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
This is what?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Oh boy, wait, what did you just call with the
face covered? Oh? Yeah, so his wife doesn't find that.
It's not important. The face is not important. Nobody's looking
at that. Let's cover the face. That's not important. The
personality you got. I'm glad we just got a really
good introduction into the band Fuel.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Third here by the way, Sorry Adhd.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
No, No, that's hilarious. That's hilarious. But I do want
to talk more about touring because you guys are constantly
it seems like you guys are kind of constantly out
on the road and festivals and things like that. We
just found out, I know you did the summer nine
and nine cruise with Creed and obviously that was such
a huge deal and thanks for giving my friend Cody
a home. Appreciate it. Right on.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Wisconsin. Boy, we've been enjoying. God's great.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Do you enjoy cruising?
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Well, that was my first me personally, that was my
I think was it all of our first experience cruising?
You guys about a cruise.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
But that was my first. It popped my cherry, it was.
It's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I'm surprised with abs like that that you even have
cherryes left the pop. You know, you get on this boat.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
My wife thinks something, the first guy she ever saw,
our first woman I ever slept.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, that's stay that way too.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Anything else before me now, but get on this being
on a cruise. Yeah, getting on this boat and it's
my first experience.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Did you look like me? You're white.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I did.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
I did get try to get a little bit of
tan which being in Wisconsin night, it's really hard to
do Wisconsin in March, in April, right before we got
on the boat. So open confession. I did go to
a tanning booth a couple of times. I don't know
if that's cool.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I need it.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
It's actually the bolt head man, I got it. Yeah,
you needed I needed foundation. So anyway, get on the boat.
All these bands I grew up listening to, and of
course my buddies here, and then you listen, you just
meet the people on the boat and you realize it's
just a big old family of people who love music,
love this era of music. And before you know it,
we're on first name basis with tons of people on
(10:31):
the boat. Not to mention the bands that were with
just hanging out with getting to know and you see them.
They're just real down to earth people. It was awesome.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And then the food, Oh.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
My gosh, yeah, the whole the whole time.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
And I dropped ten pounds before they cruise because I
knew I was going to eat like I was going
the electric Yeah yeah, but that's smart.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
It was great.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
We can't wait to get back on because there's so
many people that are coming back.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, so that cruise is coming back. In fact, when
Creed was here this past summer and Scott was hanging
out in the studio with us for a while, I
felt like he lived here for a moment. He was
my roommate there for a second. I think I love
that man to death, though. And it just found out
they just confirmed that the second one was going to happen,
and you guys, of course, are not going to be
on it again, right Yeah. And then there's a little
(11:15):
festival happening this summer. We just found out about something.
Where's Where's that festival going to be a sort of
a home away from home for me. I grew up
going to this venue, to oz Fest and warped to
or like all these crazy, crazy ass rock shows that
you go see at Alpine Valley Music Theater, which is
just outside of Milwaukee kind of uhet like in between
(11:36):
Milwaukee and Chicago, kind of in the middle of nowhere,
the side of a ski hill. I'm sure you've been there,
but that's where it is. And it's two days. It's
the summer of ninety nine, and beyond festival, this festival
is happening July eighteenth and nineteenth in Wisconsin, where there's
also another music festival happening that same weekend. So I
imagine there's gonna be some Switchy rus but it is nickelback.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
In Creed yet along.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
With Live Daughtry, Tonic Hour, Lady Piece and Lit. That's
one night.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Wait, let me see the other one. What Three Doors Down,
seven Dust, Memo, A WVH Hinder and Burgal Rising and Fuel.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
We say the best for last. Absolutely, that's gonna be huge.
I mean, it's everything. It's everything we loved about nineties
alt and hard rock music and of course the turn
of the century as well. It's and bands that are
still out doing what absolutely they love to do and
playing kick ass rooms for kick ass crowds and playing
kick ass music.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Well, we were talking, like we're talking to Mark Tremani
from Creed and he was saying, I think we're bigger now, yeah,
than we were then, and they were huge then. But
it's just been a nice resurgent for everybody, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
And it's weird to hear somebody who sold one hundred
million records for six years.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yeah, I mean, I have a great friendship with Mark
and then I talk a lot and he is one
of the most humble, beautiful humans really is on the planet.
But it was funny because Karl and I were just
hanging with him on the boat and he literally like
with very because it was their first show.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah, on the boat.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
It was their first show, and he looked at Carl
and I with the most sincere face and said, dude,
I think we're bigger now, and Carl like dump yeah, markidding, buddy.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
That was their first show, and I didn't think they
at that time realized what it was going to roll
into over the course of that year, the ongoing year, right,
So they booked another cruise and we're going on this
cruise in April with him again. But I think now
that cruise is kind of like, you know, they probably
wish they were selling, you know, three nights Madison Square
Garden instead of being on a five thousand boat. You know,
people cruise, you know what I mean. So, but it's
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been great for them. What a year they've had and
what are resurgence getting back together and everybody Nickelback's still
rolling strong, and you know, you remember they were the
whipping Boys for a long time, so it's really nice
to see the beauty that's right and right.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Like I had this conversation with Got when he was
here about Creed was the original whipping boy, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, n so the press beat them to death. Oh
my god, it was horrible, remember everybody, but we were
out with Creed when they were blowing up, because we
toured with them a lot back in the day. And man,
we used to. I remember Scott Stapp and I were
we were in California. We're head into the whiskey or somewhere,
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and like fans were following him and berating him. And
I was a lot spicier back then, and I remember
turning around and grabbing the bike by the cuff of
his shirt, like by his throat, and I was just like, dude,
if you don't get away from us, I'm going to
pound you into the concrete, like just leave Scott, Like
Scott was like folding man. It was like the guy
(14:46):
was just dick, you know, if I could say that,
And and I was just like I hated it. And
then Scott wouldn't go out after that, and that did
it kind of wrecked him, you know. It didn't help
with everything else he was going on, and then you
got people just like beat the craw out of them.
But enough about them. They don't need my help, No
they don't. But uh no, it's just like they're they're
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really solid guys, and it was so nice to see
him again. We just found out the other day that
our first night they put us we are on the
boat Deck show right after Creed and then seven dusts
so they put the man, We're ready, bring it, let's go.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I'm pretty sure I saw that show in two and seven.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
A lot of seven Dust stuff back in the day
with Creed all stuff all the way back.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
It was did you guys open was it seven I
think it was seven Dust Fuel Creed, Yeah, probably at
an arena show. Probably.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
We did a lot of stuff with all those Yeah,
seven Dust, both those bands. It was great because we
all fed off each other. You know, seven Dust is
going to bring it, Creed's going to bring it, and
it just makes you step up your game.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I love it. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, of course you get.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
It like when you you know, like if you're in
the middle slaughter, they're opening slot, I'm back there putting
on my war paint because I'm like I got to
bring the show tonight. I got to play my ass
off because if I don't, I'm gonna get wrecked.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, I'm want any bigger abs.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, that's all I got.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
In the in the in the whole timeframe of everything,
Fuel as a band has gone through some changes. No,
we're all original.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Come on, tell a story about changes. Here we go.
We have a new thing that we just conceptually came up.
Aaron did in this room right before we started this,
and this is the way he worded it, and it's brilliant.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Tell him, Aaron, Hey, hey, Wisconsin, I's listened up. This
is kind of how we see it. You know, we
live in packer Land, right, this is to Wisconsin. I
grew up watching Brett Farvre, okay, and he was the quarterback,
and you know, I kind of started thinking about the
changes in terms of especially that quarterback position. The singer
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for this band, right, and I kind of started comparing
it to the Green Bit Packers with the history of
the quarterback position, because when I grew up, you know,
my grandma was all about Bart Starr. Yeah, because it's
a big it's a big thing here, right, It's it's Packers.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
That's everything man, it's religion and.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
So like in the nineties the Packers were finally getting
good again and all this, and so.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I have a feeling you and I must be about
the same age.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Yeah, man, can I say forty one, twenty two?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, forty five? Okay, yeah, perfect. So yeah, we're watching
We're watching Brett Farves teenagers.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
And then the whole transition from Brett Farvre to Aaron
Rodgers where and that's that. Oh, I can't watch the
Packers anymore because the Brett's not the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
He's He's always going to be the quarterback. Oh dude, yeah,
Team Brett, Team Brett.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
And there were some people who wouldn't, you know, watch him,
but the fans, we're going to support Aaron Rodgers because
he was the new guy. He was the guy, right
And now when the transition to Aaron Rodgers leaving and
now Jordan Love, it's like, to me, it has a
lot of similarity to if you love the Packers, you're
gonna watch and support the team you love fuel, you're
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gonna watch support the band. And that's kind of how
we like to see it.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
So right, and that not a beautiful analogy. You don't
stop watching your NFL team because they change your quarterback
or alignment or something. So yeah, we had some changes.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
And if I can add at the team man.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
No, I mean as a Vikings fan, I've had what
eighty quarterbacks in.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
The least s.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
You're just stop supporting the team now, you know that's
your team. So if you are on Team Fuel, don't
hate us, man, We're just trying to you know.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
If I can add to that too, it's you know,
when when you ask the quarterbacks taking over for the
previous quarterback, they're not trying to step on a legacy either.
They're not trying to say no, I want you to
forget the past. They want to honor the legacy of
what came before them and then pick up and do
what they can to continue being as good as possible.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Beautiful. That is a beautiful way of saying that, right.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
It's forty and kind of romantic.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
So Laura and I have had We've had not arguments,
but spicier conversation arguments, spicier conversations about bands replacing singers
and depending on what band or the or the style
or whatever, where I as a musician, I'm like, everybody's replaceable.
Because if you wrote the music, why don't you want
to keep playing it? And if you don't, okay, you
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gave that up, then let the drummer go do it.
Then let the bass player go do it. Who cares.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I think it's a big difference between like Stone tuple pilots,
where they sound like Stone tuple pilots, versus Lincoln Park
where it doesn't sound like Lincoln Park anymore. So I
think that's kind of the interesting one.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Isn't That's an interesting move on those parts.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Mind the music, but it's not Lincoln Park to me, Like,
I'm okay with the new stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Okay, but I would venture just because you guys are here,
so just for for societal sake, Aaron, you don't sound
the exact same as Brett, so you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
It's not But we also didn't get Pavarati to come
in and sing fuel either. You don't get completely different.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Post Malone inter I was like, okay, I can see that.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
So that you're okay with.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Yes, because it's the.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Dude, it's a woman's prerogative.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Bro, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
If there was more to explain it, then I mean
it literally not. I know you don't have to change
the sex of a person. But that's kind of what
happened with you know. I don't know how a problem
with it being a woman singer, but it just not
doesn't sound like different, but right, I hate.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Women, but bands are tough as well, and bands what
Gene Simmons said, his quote was one time, you know,
you don't expect relationships to last forever, but for some reason,
people think bands should last forever with the original lineup, and.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
It's that's easy, and it's yeah, and people move, chances
of that happening, I don't know. As we've seen are
so slammed. Creed is about the only band that's about
the only band.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
That's had to break up for ten years ago years
to get back together. It's not easy, bands aren't. And
people grow and you move and things change, and and
that's how that it just went.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
We get some some contents online like you guys aren't
assuming you should just change your name. I'm like, yeah,
I want to do that and start from ground level
at sixty two and go out and play for four
hundred bucks a night to try to break my new band.
You know what I mean. It doesn't matter where I'm
coming from.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
That's my point, because then then you can't play these
giant songs that you wrote, you know, Yeah, you know
what I mean. So anyway, I don't know's it's an
interesting topic always, but well it's.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
The beauty of entertainment, right, I mean, you choose what
you like and what you don't like, you know. And
so what we want to be is, like I say,
honor the past and what this band has been to me,
yes and many many people, and then do what works
for us because we are a group and we want
to go play shows and play new music that we
wrote together and have fun doing it, and we want
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people to love it.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
At the end of the day, Breadhead, this bread had
it our oldly and the old singer had it for
ten years. Who never heard of them? Yeah, you know
what I mean. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
But I was basically let him have it. But it
was basically I was.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Divorced from my own songs because those of songs that
I wrote, right, Brett, you know, co wrote five songs,
But the rest of it was I wrote.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I'm glad you brought this up because I actually was
a little bit infused on that and I didn't know
if it was okay to ask, But since you brought
it up, I'm going to the like, explain that a
little bit, and then I want to get into how
you joined the band, and then we'll talk about the
future the because because Carl right, so okay, So because
Brett had a different version of Fuel out for quite
(22:27):
a while and now, but that was with a different
rhythm section and everything different, everything okay, and now but
now you guys have it again and it's the original
rhythm section basically, but with a different thing.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Well, there's more original band members in Fuel now than
it was when Brett had it.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Carl and lineup, the other our bass player and guitarists
were in a local band with me before Fuel got
back together, so I brought them from that. That makes sense,
That makes I actually added another sing for a second
and we did an album with him. Oh yeah, I
forgot about that and then we found Aaron.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Getting people together in the band's not easy, and you
can hold it all together.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Not easy.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
But I wrote not to toot my own horn, but
I wrote preage by myself. I shimmers a soul writer.
I wrote all those songs. So you know, if it's
interesting to have people say, well, you know, blah blah blah.
Whatever the people are gonna say what they're going to
say behind on the keyboard, you know, on the internet anything,
then they very much do. But so it was, like
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I said, I was kind of divorced from my own
music by choice. I let them have it. I said,
you guys, go have fun with it and do your thing.
So it's you know, if you like Fuel, whether or
not I'm on stage or not. Because I wrote those songs.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
How did it come back to this? How did it
come back to you?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
And now's your chance? Well, there was an offer that
came in from Brett's agent to have the original Fuel
play a show. So Brett reached out to me and
asked me if I'd be interested, and I said, yes,
I would consider that. Let's, you know, break some bread
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and talk about it. And then we got Carl on
the line, and over a series of like a couple
of weeks, Brett just wrecked it, like so bad that
it was irreconcilable on my end end Carl's end, and
like really hateful emails, nasty, nasty things, people said, Carl
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was leasing Brett the band. He was leasing them the name. Okay,
So at that moment, Carl called me out and said, dude,
you want to call him back and have him retract
some of that. And it was pretty bad stuff. It
was like not it was like very hateful stuff. And
I called Brett up. I said, dude, be careful you
don't lose the band because what you wrote to Carl
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was really uncool. And I hate to air our laundry,
but it was just like so many people have been
hearing side of things and demonizing Carl for the last
ten years. I can't take it anymore. So I'm just
letting it. You know, here's the truth. You know, the
truth is he did some really dumb things and Carl
gave him a second to retract. He didn't retract. He
actually came back with one that was even harsher, and
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Carl penned a letter up to his attorney and said
pull the contract and just like that. And then the
following day Brett called me. He's like, dude, I got
served this morning. I can no longer play any field shows.
I told you yesterday, bro. So it all went to
bed for a minute, and you know, Carl just needed
he just needed to clear his head and all that,
and then talked a couple of years later, and I
mean a couple of weeks later, and he's like, well,
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I got the band back and I said, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
You know, I said no.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I said, come on, dude, I already have a band
and all that and let's just come. So still said no,
but he drove three thousand miles to say no.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I was.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
I was. I was really burnt out, like I didn't
want to. I didn't play guitar for ten years. I
was like, I'm done with this. I don't This is
not why I picked up a guitar when I was
a teenager, you know what I mean. And I was
really done with it. So it's a it's it's a
rough journey. Sometimes bands are tough, you know what I mean.
Bands are they're they're harder than you might anticipate, you
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know what I mean. So it's it's it's a lot
bands are tough.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Tell me about it. I never got was able to
get out of the garage or the or the the
side of the bar, right.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
I mean, you know, it's hard to get a bunch
of guys it is going in the same direction for
a length of time along with the you know what
I'm saying seriously though, it is it's it's I want
quality of life. I want everybody listening to have a
quality of that. I want you guys have quality of
life's And there's choices you have to make. Is that
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gonna be quality of life or is that just a
money grab? No take quality of life?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I mean, I mean like if you just look at
local bands that will be together for five six months
and are already putting an ad in for a new
bass player because that guy, you know, it's the same
thing just at a bigger level. That happens. Man, you
don't want it to happen, but there's you got five
different personalities that are together all the time that you
have to be cognizant of what's going on in the.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Room, especially in a situation where you guys are on
the road and you're living and sometimes you know a van,
you know, if you're.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Lucky Advance we do planes campers.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
If somebody came to us and said, hey, guys, we
can get you this amount of money, but you're going
to be in a camper for six Greek Carl and
I'd be like.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
No.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
Checking out, take my bags home, whatever happened.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Not at this age, that's quality for me.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Well anyway. The point is though, when you're that that together,
it's a lot.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
It's a lot together, a lot, and we you know,
it's that's it's tough to get guys that you enjoy
being around and just in general sense much less being
a band.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
We've stuck together.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
All the time. Uh, and we've got a good bunch
of right now. I don't know how long it lasts.
It's bands are bands, but right now we got tons.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
It doesn't doesn't it not feel like they're like in
a relationship together, we're married, It's right.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah. What we were saying earlier is is we had
a we had another interview when we were talking and
you know, they're like, what's it like being together? And
Simon Carl and I said, this is the first band
like from my cover days, you know, playing cover songs
and all that. This is the first band. When somebody
puts on a text like heading to dinner six o'clock,
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you just watch the text red go bringing everybody wants
to be there, like nobody wants to.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, yeah, I know you don't want to miss dinner.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
But that's and you think that would be normal for
a band, but it is absolutely not normal. I've never
seen bands that and and this may change for us,
hope it does. I'm just not Jex in it now.
But it's it's nice, you.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
We've got a bunch of nice guys and we go
out and yuck it up and have a good time.
Everybody's laughing and it's it's fun right now.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
It's also good on you guys to be able to
fly to dates. Man, that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Well now you can't even buses are crazy. You can't
even do it, like busses are insane.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
You know, it's so expensive. Then you got to put gas.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
We're not flying private folks. Believe me. I'm in the
back of the seat like number thirty two that doesn't
even recline.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
But that's Roll thirty three. And I only know that
because I've been in it twice in the last three.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Times, and I never really had the flight sitting right
between us and exactly.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah, that's awesome, all right, So really quickly that Aaron,
how does this come about for you? And I want
to hear from your perspective.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Yeah, Buddy was born and raised Lacrosse area, Wisconsin, right
really never left this area, but grew up with the
love of music. My mom played piano in church. My
family was as much a lot of a lot of
good singers in the family actually, so I just kind
of grew up loving music. And sure enough, I'm coming
of age around the mid nineties two thousand and turn
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on the radio. You hear Fuel, you hear Shimmer, you
hear all this great music, And that was just the
way these guys talk about, you know, some of the
classic rock stuff that they grew up listening to. That's
me with Fuel. It's cool, it's crazy. So I know
all these songs and everything. But I'm a small town guy,
and you know, you kind of think that way. But
I still love music. I wanted to perform, so I
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started forming bands back home. We did some cover stuff,
started writing some original stuff back home, and start doing
some weekend shows. Meanwhile, also getting married to my wife
who I met at UW Lacrosse.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Oh nice, yeah, and still married, still married, you have
three boys back home.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
She's the rock star that makes it possible for me
to do this when I when we leave. So but
I also wanted to continue my schooling, so I went
became a teacher, did special education. But on the weekends
I'm performing and doing some things with someboddies local here.
And finally one days my boss, my principal, actually walks
and says, you got to try out for the Voice, buddy,
You've got a gift. You got to go out there.
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And for me, it's like that's that's an impossible dream.
He talks me into it, and finally decide to go
to Nashville, try out for the Voice, make it onto
the show and sing Hemorrhage in my Hands by Fuel
and perfect get Blake Shelton and John legend of turn.
I'm on Blake Shelton's team, but I set home the
next Wait a.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Minute, I knew you were on the Voice, but I
didn't know you did.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Hemorrhage on the hemorrhdge on the Voice, which which just
an little insider on the blind edition. With the Voice,
you don't necessarily get to pick the song, right you
you get to do They give you a list of
songs that they license, that they have approval and you know,
permission to do. But I did hemorrhage in my Hands
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at my tryout in Nashville, and they liked that so
much that they they worked it out to add that
to the list so that I could perform it at
blind editions.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
So did we get paid for that?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
It's such a good song. It's such a good song, right,
and you did get paid for It's how you can
fly to every show.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
Well, meanwhile, I'm out there in La mind you, this
is twenty twenty with the everything going on and so
getting tested every other day for COVID. But there are
so many people out there I'm talking to say thank
you for coming on the show and singing this style
of music because it is underrepresented and it is too
good to be not thrown out there. So I do
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that twenty twenty fall season nineteen for anybody asking, and
then I go home and do a couple of years.
You Got a Frog on your throat or something?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Bro sor Ry the story. It's okay.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Sure, sure he's dying, but it's okay.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
It's all right.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
If you hear Coffin, it's okay.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
But anyway, I do a show at Crystal Grand in
the Wisconsin Dell's opening for Scott's staff of Creed and
sure enough, there's a guy there that's actually the tour
manager and our front of house guy for Fuel. I
didn't know that the time he walks up to me,
he's working with Scott's staff and says, hey, I got
some guys who might need your help.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I could use give me your number. And I'm like, okay.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
Inside yes, I'm like who are you And he's like, oh,
my name's Kyle.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
I work with the band Fuel.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
I'm like, uh, that's the whoa moment, and so I
get my number. The next next morning, I get a
text message from Kevin Miller, the drummer of Fuel, saying, hey, buddy,
and ask me to do some song recordings send him
his way. And then sure enough, before you know it,
I'm called to ask to go out to Pennsylvania to
do some rehearsals. And now they're saying we're going to
do four Air Force shows. And I have not met
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Carl Bell at this point. Okay, he's never we're going on.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I rehearsed him in. Yeah, well it wasn't even a
rehearsal at that point. It was just kind of getting
them up there to feel it out ahead.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Yeah, buddy, And so I show up at his garage
and they're like, what, what do you want to play?
That's my first experience with this band. And I say,
let's do Shimmer. So we run through it and they're
like sweet, good.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
We just kept going.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
And I would say just just as a fan, because
I'm first and foremost a fan. And that's what's really
cool about my position is I can I can I
wear two hats where I'm the singer, but I'm also
a fan, so I can look at it both ways
and say, dude.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
When I got in, I.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Said, can we please try to do this song in
a sense the song I love? And they weren't playing
on the setlist, so I was like, I love that song,
so we play it now? And these and Carl here
he wrote these songs. But I can genuinely tell people
as a fan of this guy is so humble about it,
because you'll say, and I know he's going to argue
that because that's what he's like ever, but yeah, he's
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it's so crazy. You love this music, and you realize
this guy could really be full of himself because these
songs were huge like growing up. But he's like, oh yeah, yeah,
it was fun, it was good.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
It did a lot.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
But when you see that kind of but that's that's
the band. That's Kevin, that's that's Carl, that's Mark, that's Tommy,
that's all the bands.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Speaking about Tommy, I remember when we played like three
or four songs and Tommy's from New Jersey and he
looks at he looks at we had. We had had
a couple other guys in there before Aaron came in,
and Tommy stops. He puts his hands on and hip.
He looks at the airing points and he goes, you
you you're pretty good.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
You're good.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I think you're pretty good. I like you. You're good.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
So like that, but Tommy goes, I don't talk like
that that.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
You know.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
I meet Carl at the airport right before we do
our first shot, dude, and our first literally our first
time playing together is on stage in front of a
crop so and we had four shows lined up, and
I said, Kevin, this guy better be good because.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
We got wait, wait a minute, like, no rehearsal never
see you never met it.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yeah, in Pennsylvania, but I'm sorry. I rehearsed them in Pennsylvania.
Carl was in Vegas and he's just like Carl was
burned out again because we just went through another singer
that turned out to go upside down. And uh then
you know, my wife helped me find Aaron and and
brought him in. Was we we didn't let go of
the other singer at this point and Aaron came in
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and does such a great job. I called Carl up.
I said, that's like all the other guy and bring
him to the Air Force shows. Cars like, are you
sure I never practiced? Are you sure at all?
Speaker 4 (36:11):
I mean, if it had been awful, we had three
more shows after this that were booked and we like
over the next couple of weekends, and I'm like, and
we were out because we flew out, so now we're out.
We were committed and I'm like, oh.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
We're on Air Force basis. There was no turning around,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Like I said, Kevin, this guy sucks.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
It's gonna be a long four show, but it's great
and Aaron has been really great, and Aaron's really you know,
humble guy. I think we're kind of this whole band
has kind of cut from the same cloth now, which
made me it's good, you know what I mean? And
Aaron's been great. Aaron's been and we've got a new
record coming out we're working on. We're getting it mixed
right now. And Aaron contributed a lot to that, which
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I've never been in a band with a guy who
could actually sit behind a computer with a pro tools
rig and actually have full blown ideas this is what
I'm thinking, and you go, oh, that's great, because I've
It sounds odd maybe to some people, but I've never
been in a band with another guy who wrote on
the level that Aaron wrote is writing at and it
was great for me, and I went, this is cool.
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That kind of pushed me in a different direction as well,
and we discussed what we're doing. And so we got
a new record coming out from Fuel and we're excited
for everybody to hear it. E were about to get
it done, about to get it finished. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Awesome, you guys, Thank you for this time, and I'm
excited for the future for you guys, there's no doubt.
Thanks for having us Man, Thank you of course the
band Fuel, Laura, anything else.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Bye.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Bye.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
I wanted to ask about if they went and gambled
the other night, but that's kind of irrelevant at this
point in the story.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
And gamble. You guys have been doing a lot of
casino shows on this too.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
The music business is a gamble. So gambled with my
life all the time.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
So you talk about your buddy Cody, he's scambled a
couple of times and actually come.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Out I'm doing pretty good. Actually I won, you know,
two thousand dollars. Yeah, he put in twenty bucks and
came out with like, yeah, like.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Two or three grand all the time.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
But it's not just once.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
It's a lot that's happened.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
To be fair, I've actually been no casino with that guy.
He never loses.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
He's got all the luck. So and he's working with
us and Tommy. Tommy hits quite a bit too.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Tommy hits him every now and again. There you go,
all right, well, good luck, thank you. We'll see you
question which this can't believe. We'll see you in summer
on the Summer ninety nine festival. All right, Cutter's Rock Cast.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Don't forget to tune in exactly
Attention plays and No It cutters rock cast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Good morning. Hello, we have a band hanging out with
us this morning. There they are called Fuel. Hey guys
doing man, it's good to see you. Yeah, what are
you doing here? Why are you here?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Nobody told us.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
No. Honestly, it's funny because, uh, Laura and I saw
this commercial for a show you guys obviously played this
past weekend at North Stark Casino with them Lit, and
we're like, both of us are like, what, I want
to go to that show? And then of course there
was a snowstorm over the weekend and we had a
bunch of other stuff going on too, so we couldn't
make it.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Well, you were sick and I have front wheel drive, so.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah, it was difficult.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
It was a pretty gnarly night that night, it was.
It did come down pretty good.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
So yeah, some individuals they were there.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, that's awesome and that's all that that's all that matters.
The show is good. Was great, awesome, Fuel and Lit together,
This is that's a cool little package of really living
the early two thousd's late nineties Dream.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Were there and they're great. I knew of them and
we had never met that much but they're great and
they've been really good, and it's been a fun tour
with these guys, you know, and it's you know, they're
you know, southern California guys and they kind of bringing
the punk snotty kind of feeling. Yeah, it's great and
they got some great songs.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
You know, if I.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Remember when I was they first started playing, I went, oh,
yeah that song, Oh yeah, that song.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
It's really cool.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
So it's we're having a lot of fun with them.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
That's awesome. I think you get the same thing when
you hear Fuel though it's yeah that song. I mean,
we all know hemorrhage, right obviously, Yeah, and all the
but you guys have had songs and you still release
great songs to this day. Kind of we were talking
about that with a different band not that long ago.
It's like, oh, you're one of those bands where I
hear you go see the live show and it's.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
You think you know one or two songs. I know
that when I know that.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, Bittersweet, bad Day, Innocent, hemorrhage, Jesus Gun. I mean
we have, you know a lot of songs hit the airwaves.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Back down off Daredevil. We had a bunch of Daredevil soundtracks.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I forgot about that one. Have those songs on my favorites. Listen,
I still.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Forgot about it on screen three.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Oh yeah, that's right. The soundtracks back.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
When they did movies with soundtracks, you know what I mean?
After the you know, Titanic was such a huge thing
and they but now a I.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Right, they wrote a whole album.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Do anything, no Grammys for you?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Write me a song about no, no, No. What we
learned a couple of weeks ago at the Grammys is
they can still win a Grammy with a I as
long as they pretend it's based off of a dead member.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Right, they can clean it up. I like, it can't
be written.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
You guys have any you guys have any dead members? No, no, no,
don't even know that. We're not gonna get that dark
put the soundtracks, man, Like, Honestly, you just spark sparked
a memory of so many of those soundtracks and that
period of tie I had so much great rock music on.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
It, right, dude, Listen, every almost every plane flight that
I get on, because like my lamin it might be
hanging on my backpack or something, and uh, you know
somebody would be like they'll look at it and they're like, what,
why do I Why do I know that name? And
like you guys, you guys are a band. I'm like yeah,
and they're like, well, would I know any of the songs?
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And I'll pull out my phone and I'll start with
like Shimmer and like, oh my god, that was my
favorite song in college, and then I'll play bad Day,
like holy crap, I remember now, I remember from the
video you got in the fist fight, you know. But
but you just keep going through all the songs and
they don't realize the catalog that we had, and I
don't know, for some reason, we were a faceless band,
(03:43):
like it just probably you know, I was really handsome
then right now I'm old and decrepit, but you're pretty handsome.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
You entertain that with people, like do you ever go
like Limp Biscuit or Limp Biscuit, I mean, or do
you just you know, you're always just entertaining people.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
It's just it's a weird thing. And then you know,
or you know, somebody claims to be a fan and
then they're you know, I'm standing there at the merch
booth and they're asking me when the drummer's coming out.
He'll be here in a minute.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Here about twenty years ago, exactly when I.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Was eighty, I thought you were looking good for eight
goods you buddy?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Are you sixty toixty two? I got a six pack? Damn?
What's what's the secret?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Red wine? Copious amounts?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I don't think are you writing that down, Laura? I
am actually.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Just did three hundred set ups on the exercise bomb.
Three hundred setups?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
What the you know? It's crazy, it's my king got
into workout.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Well, it's it's it's being a drummer, and you know,
it's it's a taxing instrum. It's very physically taxing. And
I don't want to be that guy back there to
not deliver the show that I want to give him
my head because the day that I do that, I
don't want to play anymore, right, and I don't want
to stop playing. So therefore I hit the gym several
days a week. Do you know. I'm not a big
cardio guy, but I do a lot of repetitive stuff, lightweight,
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high reps, just to stay going.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Quite a bit, I go, I try to work out
with it.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Yeah, until he says, here, just grab those twenty pound
dumbellsupy like, oh twenty that's not too heavy. Yeah, And
then do this thirty times, and then do this thirty times, and.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
All of a sudden, those those twenty pound dumbbells become
real heavy. Yes, I can't let him down.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
We're gonna grab the video guy and have him arm
wrestle you after this.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I think so you go to call it out her
arm wrestle each other.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah, I think you should.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
That would be fun. No, go to the website. Go
to our website, Fuel Official. You'll see Kevin. He's uh,
he's rocking sixty two.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Good. Seriously, Well, I'm gonna do that right now in
a minute. If if Laura is going to make you
arm wrestle you, I need to know.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I just he did. And it got big probably still
beat shopping car.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
And it got bigger. Yes, yes, it got bigger.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Okay, it looks like it it's a boulder.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
It is, Oh my god. Yeah, I can't compete with that.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I wouldn't suggest why, like Laura wants to hurt me.
The Facebook Fuel Official Facebook, you only.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
You have more know more about the shopping cart?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Is it like?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Literally when I roll over in bed and I pulled
it like there's something right above like my pack, Like
I somehow managed to stress my pack out when I
roll over in bed.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
So on your shopping cart, let's make sure it hit follows.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
It was a couple of days before a couple of
days before Thanksgiving. I was we were going to my
in laws place, our cousins of my wife.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
And the one's coming out of the stage.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
They'll probably never hear this. I'll just say something is
to be desired. And the one thing they always wreck
is the gravy.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
So I went away. The one thing you always wreck
is the gravy.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
They wrecked the gravy every time for Thanksgiving. Yeah, And
so I saw they had some some jarred gravy, and
I'm like, you know what, I'm just going to get
some of this just to be safe in case they
wrecked the gravy. But long story short, I said it
in the top of the cart and I normally have
my two boys with me. I have a five year
old on the seven year old, and I didn't close
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that little plastic thing where the legs go. And when
I went to push the cart as the glass jar
started falling out, the whole of I went to grab
the gravy and hit the bar that you put your
hands on to push the cart, and it just blew
my bicep apart. Good god, isn't there a video?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Wow? You got to talk into a microphone. I'm sorry.
Right here there it is there, Laura. Oh, let me
ask for her. Are you single? A? He did this?
He can run you can see too. Yeah. Yeah, man,
damn good for you.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
You know when a guy like that pops up on Tinder,
they're fake.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
So's it's just pictures of Kevin.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
It's a it's the drummer from Fuel.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Someone's going to use that picture of you like you're fake, like,
but you don't find that on tender.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
There's any video of me walking out here a couple
of weeks after that.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Seriously, I'm a boy in dude, No, you don't want
to know what this is.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
This is what?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Oh boy, wait, what did you just call with the
face covered? Oh? Yeah, so his wife doesn't find that.
It's not important. The face is not important. Nobody's looking
at that. Let's cover the face. That's not important. The
personality you got. I'm glad we just got a really
good introduction into the band Fuel.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Third here by the way, Sorry Adhd.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
No, No, that's hilarious. That's hilarious. But I do want
to talk more about touring because you guys are constantly
it seems like you guys are kind of constantly out
on the road and festivals and things like that. We
just found out, I know you did the summer nine
and nine cruise with Creed and obviously that was such
a huge deal and thanks for giving my friend Cody
a home. Appreciate it. Right on.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Wisconsin. Boy, we've been enjoying. God's great.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Do you enjoy cruising?
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Well, that was my first me personally, that was my
I think was it all of our first experience cruising?
You guys about a cruise.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
But that was my first. It popped my cherry, it was.
It's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I'm surprised with abs like that that you even have
cherryes left the pop. You know, you get on this boat.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
My wife thinks something, the first guy she ever saw,
our first woman I ever slept.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, that's stay that way too.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Anything else before me now, but get on this being
on a cruise. Yeah, getting on this boat and it's
my first experience.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Did you look like me? You're white.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I did.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
I did get try to get a little bit of
tan which being in Wisconsin night, it's really hard to
do Wisconsin in March, in April, right before we got
on the boat. So open confession. I did go to
a tanning booth a couple of times. I don't know
if that's cool.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I need it.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
It's actually the bolt head man, I got it. Yeah,
you needed I needed foundation. So anyway, get on the boat.
All these bands I grew up listening to, and of
course my buddies here, and then you listen, you just
meet the people on the boat and you realize it's
just a big old family of people who love music,
love this era of music. And before you know it,
we're on first name basis with tons of people on
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the boat. Not to mention the bands that were with
just hanging out with getting to know and you see them.
They're just real down to earth people. It was awesome.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And then the food, Oh.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
My gosh, yeah, the whole the whole time.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
And I dropped ten pounds before they cruise because I
knew I was going to eat like I was going
the electric Yeah yeah, but that's smart.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
It was great.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
We can't wait to get back on because there's so
many people that are coming back.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, so that cruise is coming back. In fact, when
Creed was here this past summer and Scott was hanging
out in the studio with us for a while, I
felt like he lived here for a moment. He was
my roommate there for a second. I think I love
that man to death, though. And it just found out
they just confirmed that the second one was going to happen,
and you guys, of course, are not going to be
on it again, right Yeah. And then there's a little
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festival happening this summer. We just found out about something.
Where's Where's that festival going to be a sort of
a home away from home for me. I grew up
going to this venue, to oz Fest and warped to
or like all these crazy, crazy ass rock shows that
you go see at Alpine Valley Music Theater, which is
just outside of Milwaukee kind of uhet like in between
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Milwaukee and Chicago, kind of in the middle of nowhere,
the side of a ski hill. I'm sure you've been there,
but that's where it is. And it's two days. It's
the summer of ninety nine, and beyond festival, this festival
is happening July eighteenth and nineteenth in Wisconsin, where there's
also another music festival happening that same weekend. So I
imagine there's gonna be some Switchy rus but it is nickelback.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
In Creed yet along.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
With Live Daughtry, Tonic Hour, Lady Piece and Lit. That's
one night.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Wait, let me see the other one. What Three Doors Down,
seven Dust, Memo, A WVH Hinder and Burgal Rising and Fuel.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
We say the best for last. Absolutely, that's gonna be huge.
I mean, it's everything. It's everything we loved about nineties
alt and hard rock music and of course the turn
of the century as well. It's and bands that are
still out doing what absolutely they love to do and
playing kick ass rooms for kick ass crowds and playing
kick ass music.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Well, we were talking, like we're talking to Mark Tremani
from Creed and he was saying, I think we're bigger now, yeah,
than we were then, and they were huge then. But
it's just been a nice resurgent for everybody, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
And it's weird to hear somebody who sold one hundred
million records for six years.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yeah, I mean, I have a great friendship with Mark
and then I talk a lot and he is one
of the most humble, beautiful humans really is on the planet.
But it was funny because Karl and I were just
hanging with him on the boat and he literally like
with very because it was their first show.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah, on the boat.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
It was their first show, and he looked at Carl
and I with the most sincere face and said, dude,
I think we're bigger now, and Carl like dump yeah, markidding, buddy.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
That was their first show, and I didn't think they
at that time realized what it was going to roll
into over the course of that year, the ongoing year, right,
So they booked another cruise and we're going on this
cruise in April with him again. But I think now
that cruise is kind of like, you know, they probably
wish they were selling, you know, three nights Madison Square
Garden instead of being on a five thousand boat. You know,
people cruise, you know what I mean. So, but it's
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been great for them. What a year they've had and
what are resurgence getting back together and everybody Nickelback's still
rolling strong, and you know, you remember they were the
whipping Boys for a long time, so it's really nice
to see the beauty that's right and right.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Like I had this conversation with Got when he was
here about Creed was the original whipping boy, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, n so the press beat them to death. Oh
my god, it was horrible, remember everybody, but we were
out with Creed when they were blowing up, because we
toured with them a lot back in the day. And man,
we used to. I remember Scott Stapp and I were
we were in California. We're head into the whiskey or somewhere,
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and like fans were following him and berating him. And
I was a lot spicier back then, and I remember
turning around and grabbing the bike by the cuff of
his shirt, like by his throat, and I was just like, dude,
if you don't get away from us, I'm going to
pound you into the concrete, like just leave Scott, Like
Scott was like folding man. It was like the guy
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was just dick, you know, if I could say that,
And and I was just like I hated it. And
then Scott wouldn't go out after that, and that did
it kind of wrecked him, you know. It didn't help
with everything else he was going on, and then you
got people just like beat the craw out of them.
But enough about them. They don't need my help, No
they don't. But uh no, it's just like they're they're
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really solid guys, and it was so nice to see
him again. We just found out the other day that
our first night they put us we are on the
boat Deck show right after Creed and then seven dusts
so they put the man, We're ready, bring it, let's go.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I'm pretty sure I saw that show in two and seven.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
A lot of seven Dust stuff back in the day
with Creed all stuff all the way back.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
It was did you guys open was it seven I
think it was seven Dust Fuel Creed, Yeah, probably at
an arena show. Probably.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
We did a lot of stuff with all those Yeah,
seven Dust, both those bands. It was great because we
all fed off each other. You know, seven Dust is
going to bring it, Creed's going to bring it, and
it just makes you step up your game.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I love it. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, of course you get.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
It like when you you know, like if you're in
the middle slaughter, they're opening slot, I'm back there putting
on my war paint because I'm like I got to
bring the show tonight. I got to play my ass
off because if I don't, I'm gonna get wrecked.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, I'm want any bigger abs.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, that's all I got.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
In the in the in the whole timeframe of everything,
Fuel as a band has gone through some changes. No,
we're all original.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Come on, tell a story about changes. Here we go.
We have a new thing that we just conceptually came up.
Aaron did in this room right before we started this,
and this is the way he worded it, and it's brilliant.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Tell him, Aaron, Hey, hey, Wisconsin, I's listened up. This
is kind of how we see it. You know, we
live in packer Land, right, this is to Wisconsin. I
grew up watching Brett Farvre, okay, and he was the quarterback,
and you know, I kind of started thinking about the
changes in terms of especially that quarterback position. The singer
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for this band, right, and I kind of started comparing
it to the Green Bit Packers with the history of
the quarterback position, because when I grew up, you know,
my grandma was all about Bart Starr. Yeah, because it's
a big it's a big thing here, right, It's it's Packers.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
That's everything man, it's religion and.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
So like in the nineties the Packers were finally getting
good again and all this, and so.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I have a feeling you and I must be about
the same age.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Yeah, man, can I say forty one, twenty two?
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, forty five? Okay, yeah, perfect. So yeah, we're watching
We're watching Brett Farves teenagers.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
And then the whole transition from Brett Farvre to Aaron
Rodgers where and that's that. Oh, I can't watch the
Packers anymore because the Brett's not the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
He's He's always going to be the quarterback. Oh dude, yeah,
Team Brett, Team Brett.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
And there were some people who wouldn't, you know, watch him,
but the fans, we're going to support Aaron Rodgers because
he was the new guy. He was the guy, right
And now when the transition to Aaron Rodgers leaving and
now Jordan Love, it's like, to me, it has a
lot of similarity to if you love the Packers, you're
gonna watch and support the team you love fuel, you're
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gonna watch support the band. And that's kind of how
we like to see it.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
So right, and that not a beautiful analogy. You don't
stop watching your NFL team because they change your quarterback
or alignment or something. So yeah, we had some changes.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
And if I can add at the team man.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
No, I mean as a Vikings fan, I've had what
eighty quarterbacks in.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
The least s.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
You're just stop supporting the team now, you know that's
your team. So if you are on Team Fuel, don't
hate us, man, We're just trying to you know.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
If I can add to that too, it's you know,
when when you ask the quarterbacks taking over for the
previous quarterback, they're not trying to step on a legacy either.
They're not trying to say no, I want you to
forget the past. They want to honor the legacy of
what came before them and then pick up and do
what they can to continue being as good as possible.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Beautiful. That is a beautiful way of saying that, right.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
It's forty and kind of romantic.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
So Laura and I have had We've had not arguments,
but spicier conversation arguments, spicier conversations about bands replacing singers
and depending on what band or the or the style
or whatever, where I as a musician, I'm like, everybody's replaceable.
Because if you wrote the music, why don't you want
to keep playing it? And if you don't, okay, you
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gave that up, then let the drummer go do it.
Then let the bass player go do it. Who cares.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
I think it's a big difference between like Stone tuple pilots,
where they sound like Stone tuple pilots, versus Lincoln Park
where it doesn't sound like Lincoln Park anymore. So I
think that's kind of the interesting one.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Isn't That's an interesting move on those parts.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Mind the music, but it's not Lincoln Park to me, Like,
I'm okay with the new stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Okay, but I would venture just because you guys are here,
so just for for societal sake, Aaron, you don't sound
the exact same as Brett, so you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
It's not But we also didn't get Pavarati to come
in and sing fuel either. You don't get completely different.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Post Malone inter I was like, okay, I can see that.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
So that you're okay with.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Yes, because it's the.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Dude, it's a woman's prerogative.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Bro, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
If there was more to explain it, then I mean
it literally not. I know you don't have to change
the sex of a person. But that's kind of what
happened with you know. I don't know how a problem
with it being a woman singer, but it just not
doesn't sound like different, but right, I hate.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Women, but bands are tough as well, and bands what
Gene Simmons said, his quote was one time, you know,
you don't expect relationships to last forever, but for some reason,
people think bands should last forever with the original lineup, and.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
It's that's easy, and it's yeah, and people move, chances
of that happening, I don't know. As we've seen are
so slammed. Creed is about the only band that's about
the only band.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
That's had to break up for ten years ago years
to get back together. It's not easy, bands aren't. And
people grow and you move and things change, and and
that's how that it just went.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
We get some some contents online like you guys aren't
assuming you should just change your name. I'm like, yeah,
I want to do that and start from ground level
at sixty two and go out and play for four
hundred bucks a night to try to break my new band.
You know what I mean. It doesn't matter where I'm
coming from.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
That's my point, because then then you can't play these
giant songs that you wrote, you know, Yeah, you know
what I mean. So anyway, I don't know's it's an
interesting topic always, but well it's.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
The beauty of entertainment, right, I mean, you choose what
you like and what you don't like, you know. And
so what we want to be is, like I say,
honor the past and what this band has been to me,
yes and many many people, and then do what works
for us because we are a group and we want
to go play shows and play new music that we
wrote together and have fun doing it, and we want
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people to love it.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
At the end of the day, Breadhead, this bread had
it our oldly and the old singer had it for
ten years. Who never heard of them? Yeah, you know
what I mean. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
But I was basically let him have it. But it
was basically I was.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Divorced from my own songs because those of songs that
I wrote, right, Brett, you know, co wrote five songs,
But the rest of it was I wrote.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I'm glad you brought this up because I actually was
a little bit infused on that and I didn't know
if it was okay to ask, But since you brought
it up, I'm going to the like, explain that a
little bit, and then I want to get into how
you joined the band, and then we'll talk about the
future the because because Carl right, so okay, So because
Brett had a different version of Fuel out for quite
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a while and now, but that was with a different
rhythm section and everything different, everything okay, and now but
now you guys have it again and it's the original
rhythm section basically, but with a different thing.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Well, there's more original band members in Fuel now than
it was when Brett had it.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Carl and lineup, the other our bass player and guitarists
were in a local band with me before Fuel got
back together, so I brought them from that. That makes sense,
That makes I actually added another sing for a second
and we did an album with him. Oh yeah, I
forgot about that and then we found Aaron.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Getting people together in the band's not easy, and you
can hold it all together.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Not easy.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
But I wrote not to toot my own horn, but
I wrote preage by myself. I shimmers a soul writer.
I wrote all those songs. So you know, if it's
interesting to have people say, well, you know, blah blah blah.
Whatever the people are gonna say what they're going to
say behind on the keyboard, you know, on the internet anything,
then they very much do. But so it was, like
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I said, I was kind of divorced from my own
music by choice. I let them have it. I said,
you guys, go have fun with it and do your thing.
So it's you know, if you like Fuel, whether or
not I'm on stage or not. Because I wrote those songs.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
How did it come back to this? How did it
come back to you?
Speaker 1 (23:49):
And now's your chance? Well, there was an offer that
came in from Brett's agent to have the original Fuel
play a show. So Brett reached out to me and
asked me if I'd be interested, and I said, yes,
I would consider that. Let's, you know, break some bread
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and talk about it. And then we got Carl on
the line, and over a series of like a couple
of weeks, Brett just wrecked it, like so bad that
it was irreconcilable on my end end Carl's end, and
like really hateful emails, nasty, nasty things, people said, Carl
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was leasing Brett the band. He was leasing them the name. Okay,
So at that moment, Carl called me out and said, dude,
you want to call him back and have him retract
some of that. And it was pretty bad stuff. It
was like not it was like very hateful stuff. And
I called Brett up. I said, dude, be careful you
don't lose the band because what you wrote to Carl
(24:54):
was really uncool. And I hate to air our laundry,
but it was just like so many people have been
hearing side of things and demonizing Carl for the last
ten years. I can't take it anymore. So I'm just
letting it. You know, here's the truth. You know, the
truth is he did some really dumb things and Carl
gave him a second to retract. He didn't retract. He
actually came back with one that was even harsher, and
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Carl penned a letter up to his attorney and said
pull the contract and just like that. And then the
following day Brett called me. He's like, dude, I got
served this morning. I can no longer play any field shows.
I told you yesterday, bro. So it all went to
bed for a minute, and you know, Carl just needed
he just needed to clear his head and all that,
and then talked a couple of years later, and I
mean a couple of weeks later, and he's like, well,
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I got the band back and I said, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
You know, I said no.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I said, come on, dude, I already have a band
and all that and let's just come. So still said no,
but he drove three thousand miles to say no.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I was.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
I was. I was really burnt out, like I didn't
want to. I didn't play guitar for ten years. I
was like, I'm done with this. I don't This is
not why I picked up a guitar when I was
a teenager, you know what I mean. And I was
really done with it. So it's a it's it's a
rough journey. Sometimes bands are tough, you know what I mean.
Bands are they're they're harder than you might anticipate, you
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know what I mean. So it's it's it's a lot
bands are tough.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Tell me about it. I never got was able to
get out of the garage or the or the the
side of the bar, right.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
I mean, you know, it's hard to get a bunch
of guys it is going in the same direction for
a length of time along with the you know what
I'm saying seriously though, it is it's it's I want
quality of life. I want everybody listening to have a
quality of that. I want you guys have quality of
life's And there's choices you have to make. Is that
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gonna be quality of life or is that just a
money grab? No take quality of life?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I mean, I mean like if you just look at
local bands that will be together for five six months
and are already putting an ad in for a new
bass player because that guy, you know, it's the same
thing just at a bigger level. That happens. Man, you
don't want it to happen, but there's you got five
different personalities that are together all the time that you
have to be cognizant of what's going on in the.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Room, especially in a situation where you guys are on
the road and you're living and sometimes you know a van,
you know, if you're.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Lucky Advance we do planes campers.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
If somebody came to us and said, hey, guys, we
can get you this amount of money, but you're going
to be in a camper for six Greek Carl and
I'd be like.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
No.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
Checking out, take my bags home, whatever happened.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Not at this age, that's quality for me.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Well anyway. The point is though, when you're that that together,
it's a lot.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
It's a lot together, a lot, and we you know,
it's that's it's tough to get guys that you enjoy
being around and just in general sense much less being
a band.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
We've stuck together.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
All the time. Uh, and we've got a good bunch
of right now. I don't know how long it lasts.
It's bands are bands, but right now we got tons.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
It doesn't doesn't it not feel like they're like in
a relationship together, we're married, It's right.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah. What we were saying earlier is is we had
a we had another interview when we were talking and
you know, they're like, what's it like being together? And
Simon Carl and I said, this is the first band
like from my cover days, you know, playing cover songs
and all that. This is the first band. When somebody
puts on a text like heading to dinner six o'clock,
(28:41):
you just watch the text red go bringing everybody wants
to be there, like nobody wants to.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, yeah, I know you don't want to miss dinner.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
But that's and you think that would be normal for
a band, but it is absolutely not normal. I've never
seen bands that and and this may change for us,
hope it does. I'm just not Jex in it now.
But it's it's nice, you.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
We've got a bunch of nice guys and we go
out and yuck it up and have a good time.
Everybody's laughing and it's it's fun right now.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
It's also good on you guys to be able to
fly to dates. Man, that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Well now you can't even buses are crazy. You can't
even do it, like busses are insane.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
You know, it's so expensive. Then you got to put gas.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
We're not flying private folks. Believe me. I'm in the
back of the seat like number thirty two that doesn't
even recline.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
But that's Roll thirty three. And I only know that
because I've been in it twice in the last three.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Times, and I never really had the flight sitting right
between us and exactly.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Yeah, that's awesome, all right, So really quickly that Aaron,
how does this come about for you? And I want
to hear from your perspective.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Yeah, Buddy was born and raised Lacrosse area, Wisconsin, right
really never left this area, but grew up with the
love of music. My mom played piano in church. My
family was as much a lot of a lot of
good singers in the family actually, so I just kind
of grew up loving music. And sure enough, I'm coming
of age around the mid nineties two thousand and turn
(30:05):
on the radio. You hear Fuel, you hear Shimmer, you
hear all this great music, And that was just the
way these guys talk about, you know, some of the
classic rock stuff that they grew up listening to. That's
me with Fuel. It's cool, it's crazy. So I know
all these songs and everything. But I'm a small town guy,
and you know, you kind of think that way. But
I still love music. I wanted to perform, so I
(30:26):
started forming bands back home. We did some cover stuff,
started writing some original stuff back home, and start doing
some weekend shows. Meanwhile, also getting married to my wife
who I met at UW Lacrosse.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Oh nice, yeah, and still married, still married, you have
three boys back home.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
She's the rock star that makes it possible for me
to do this when I when we leave. So but
I also wanted to continue my schooling, so I went
became a teacher, did special education. But on the weekends
I'm performing and doing some things with someboddies local here.
And finally one days my boss, my principal, actually walks
and says, you got to try out for the Voice, buddy,
You've got a gift. You got to go out there.
(31:04):
And for me, it's like that's that's an impossible dream.
He talks me into it, and finally decide to go
to Nashville, try out for the Voice, make it onto
the show and sing Hemorrhage in my Hands by Fuel
and perfect get Blake Shelton and John legend of turn.
I'm on Blake Shelton's team, but I set home the
next Wait a.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Minute, I knew you were on the Voice, but I
didn't know you did.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Hemorrhage on the hemorrhdge on the Voice, which which just
an little insider on the blind edition. With the Voice,
you don't necessarily get to pick the song, right you
you get to do They give you a list of
songs that they license, that they have approval and you know,
permission to do. But I did hemorrhage in my Hands
(31:45):
at my tryout in Nashville, and they liked that so
much that they they worked it out to add that
to the list so that I could perform it at
blind editions.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
So did we get paid for that?
Speaker 2 (31:53):
It's such a good song. It's such a good song, right,
and you did get paid for It's how you can
fly to every show.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
Well, meanwhile, I'm out there in La mind you, this
is twenty twenty with the everything going on and so
getting tested every other day for COVID. But there are
so many people out there I'm talking to say thank
you for coming on the show and singing this style
of music because it is underrepresented and it is too
good to be not thrown out there. So I do
(32:21):
that twenty twenty fall season nineteen for anybody asking, and
then I go home and do a couple of years.
You Got a Frog on your throat or something?
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Bro sor Ry the story. It's okay.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Sure, sure he's dying, but it's okay.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
It's all right.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
If you hear Coffin, it's okay.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
But anyway, I do a show at Crystal Grand in
the Wisconsin Dell's opening for Scott's staff of Creed and
sure enough, there's a guy there that's actually the tour
manager and our front of house guy for Fuel. I
didn't know that the time he walks up to me,
he's working with Scott's staff and says, hey, I got
some guys who might need your help.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I could use give me your number. And I'm like, okay.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
Inside yes, I'm like who are you And he's like, oh,
my name's Kyle.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
I work with the band Fuel.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
I'm like, uh, that's the whoa moment, and so I
get my number. The next next morning, I get a
text message from Kevin Miller, the drummer of Fuel, saying, hey, buddy,
and ask me to do some song recordings send him
his way. And then sure enough, before you know it,
I'm called to ask to go out to Pennsylvania to
do some rehearsals. And now they're saying we're going to
do four Air Force shows. And I have not met
(33:31):
Carl Bell at this point. Okay, he's never we're going on.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I rehearsed him in. Yeah, well it wasn't even a
rehearsal at that point. It was just kind of getting
them up there to feel it out ahead.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Yeah, buddy, And so I show up at his garage
and they're like, what, what do you want to play?
That's my first experience with this band. And I say,
let's do Shimmer. So we run through it and they're
like sweet, good.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
We just kept going.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
And I would say just just as a fan, because
I'm first and foremost a fan. And that's what's really
cool about my position is I can I can I
wear two hats where I'm the singer, but I'm also
a fan, so I can look at it both ways
and say, dude.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
When I got in, I.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Said, can we please try to do this song in
a sense the song I love? And they weren't playing
on the setlist, so I was like, I love that song,
so we play it now? And these and Carl here
he wrote these songs. But I can genuinely tell people
as a fan of this guy is so humble about it,
because you'll say, and I know he's going to argue
that because that's what he's like ever, but yeah, he's
(34:30):
it's so crazy. You love this music, and you realize
this guy could really be full of himself because these
songs were huge like growing up. But he's like, oh yeah, yeah,
it was fun, it was good.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
It did a lot.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
But when you see that kind of but that's that's
the band. That's Kevin, that's that's Carl, that's Mark, that's Tommy,
that's all the bands.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Speaking about Tommy, I remember when we played like three
or four songs and Tommy's from New Jersey and he
looks at he looks at we had. We had had
a couple other guys in there before Aaron came in,
and Tommy stops. He puts his hands on and hip.
He looks at the airing points and he goes, you
you you're pretty good.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
You're good.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I think you're pretty good. I like you. You're good.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
So like that, but Tommy goes, I don't talk like
that that.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
You know.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
I meet Carl at the airport right before we do
our first shot, dude, and our first literally our first
time playing together is on stage in front of a
crop so and we had four shows lined up, and
I said, Kevin, this guy better be good because.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
We got wait, wait a minute, like, no rehearsal never
see you never met it.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yeah, in Pennsylvania, but I'm sorry. I rehearsed them in Pennsylvania.
Carl was in Vegas and he's just like Carl was
burned out again because we just went through another singer
that turned out to go upside down. And uh then
you know, my wife helped me find Aaron and and
brought him in. Was we we didn't let go of
the other singer at this point and Aaron came in
(36:00):
and does such a great job. I called Carl up.
I said, that's like all the other guy and bring
him to the Air Force shows. Cars like, are you
sure I never practiced? Are you sure at all?
Speaker 4 (36:11):
I mean, if it had been awful, we had three
more shows after this that were booked and we like
over the next couple of weekends, and I'm like, and
we were out because we flew out, so now we're out.
We were committed and I'm like, oh.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
We're on Air Force basis. There was no turning around,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Like I said, Kevin, this guy sucks.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
It's gonna be a long four show, but it's great
and Aaron has been really great, and Aaron's really you know,
humble guy. I think we're kind of this whole band
has kind of cut from the same cloth now, which
made me it's good, you know what I mean? And
Aaron's been great. Aaron's been and we've got a new
record coming out we're working on. We're getting it mixed
right now. And Aaron contributed a lot to that, which
(36:48):
I've never been in a band with a guy who
could actually sit behind a computer with a pro tools
rig and actually have full blown ideas this is what
I'm thinking, and you go, oh, that's great, because I've
It sounds odd maybe to some people, but I've never
been in a band with another guy who wrote on
the level that Aaron wrote is writing at and it
was great for me, and I went, this is cool.
(37:08):
That kind of pushed me in a different direction as well,
and we discussed what we're doing. And so we got
a new record coming out from Fuel and we're excited
for everybody to hear it. E were about to get
it done, about to get it finished. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Awesome, you guys, Thank you for this time, and I'm
excited for the future for you guys, there's no doubt.
Thanks for having us Man, Thank you of course the
band Fuel, Laura, anything else.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Bye.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Bye.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
I wanted to ask about if they went and gambled
the other night, but that's kind of irrelevant at this
point in the story.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
And gamble. You guys have been doing a lot of
casino shows on this too.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
The music business is a gamble. So gambled with my
life all the time.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
So you talk about your buddy Cody, he's scambled a
couple of times and actually come.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Out I'm doing pretty good. Actually I won, you know,
two thousand dollars. Yeah, he put in twenty bucks and
came out with like, yeah, like.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Two or three grand all the time.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
But it's not just once.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
It's a lot that's happened.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
To be fair, I've actually been no casino with that guy.
He never loses.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
He's got all the luck. So and he's working with
us and Tommy. Tommy hits quite a bit too.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Tommy hits him every now and again. There you go,
all right, well, good luck, thank you. We'll see you
question which this can't believe. We'll see you in summer
on the Summer ninety nine festival. All right, Cutter's Rock Cast.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
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