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March 21, 2025 32 mins
Alyse Zavala and Oscar Romero are the co-lead singers in the band LYLVC, that is pronounced Lylac but with a V in place of the A. It's rock and roll man you can do what you want. This band started during the pandemic and a true won't take no attitude has put them on a path to greatness. You may have seen them on tour with Atreyu or Pop Evil, but with new music done, a record contract happening soon, and more touring on the books, the future is now for the band Lylvc. 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Attention please, and no it cutters rock cast.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
The lot.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
Lease you two know each other as you running to
just a little bit.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Circles on the outskirts.

Speaker 4 (00:17):
Exactly. Let me set this up a little bit. So
the uh, the band name is Lilac. Yeah, okay, because
you know what, That's where I'll begin, because the spelling
of it is not Lilac.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
It's like that's how I think I would pronounce it.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
If pronunciation I heard that pretty good.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Yeah, this is why they this is why they pay
me the zero dollars. No, you know, Elise an Oscar,
thank you guys so much. Obviously you two are the
lead singers of this band. The back and forth, the
female male vocal style, which is always fantastic. You guys
do it well, there's no about it. After listening to
quite a few of your songs.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
But explain this band.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
The band name first of all, with it being Lilac,
but you know, spelled out that way with the logo.

Speaker 5 (01:11):
Well, I mean, I guess to explain the band.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, when we first started, we actually started during COVID,
so we were quarantining together and everything, and uh, before
I met Oscar and before we started auditioning. Members Cam,
who actually is our keyboardist and our uh.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
He also plays rhythm guitar, but he writes.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
He plays a lot of instruments, and he writes all
of our instrumentals before.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
Oscar and I write our lyrics and vocal melodies to it.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
So anyway, Cam is like the mad scientist behind all
of our you know, instrumental music. And so Cam Uh
and I met during COVID and he really liked my
voice that he had heard from previous projects that I
had done, uh, And he asked me, I guess what
I envisioned for the future.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
And I had, oh that question, Yeah, where do you
see yourself in five years?

Speaker 5 (02:06):
What is the mean of life?

Speaker 2 (02:10):
And so I yeah, Like the thing is is I
had always been in bands where I was the only singer.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
And it was good.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Don't get me wrong, but I think that like you do,
automatically get compared to like the only bands that people
know that have a fam female singer, Like whether you
sound like them or not.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
It doesn't matter, like only gonna be.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Like, oh my god, you sound just like uh, like
Hillstorm and and Evanessence or whatever you know. And so
like I thought, maybe switching it up, Like I've always
loved Lincoln Park, and I've always loved like the combination
of like rap and rock, like growing up, and I've
always loved even like I prevail on stuff that was
doing like the the clean vocals and the screen vocals.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
I just I like the idea of having two.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Vocalists and allowing it to be Like at the time,
Lincoln Park didn't have a female singer, and so I
was like, well, nobody's really doing that, you know, where
it's a female singer and a male rapper, and like, yeah,
we could, we could be different. Let's do this, and
you know, we can kind of be not compared to

(03:15):
only just this one band that has a female singer,
you know, make them get to know my voice, make
them get to know Oscar's voice, so that we're a
little different.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
You guys were ahead of your time.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Mike Mike Scha from Lincoln Park has a Lilac demo
somewhere in his studio and he's like, I got it
some ware.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Mike Shanoa actually does follow us, like we're friends on Instagram.
So I wonder if my stuff and you know, see
I acknowledge that.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
I'm not I'm not confirming nor denying the possibility, but.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
I am in his feed.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
So, like I I, Cam just decided to like write
some metal songs and they sounded amazing, And I don't know,
I was really surprised because all the stuff I had
heard from him was like very pop and si wavy.
I just I never heard him do a metal breakdown,
but it sounded. It sounded really good the music that
he was making, and so I was like, I guess
I'm starting a band because he just like was like, here,

(04:22):
here's the music.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
And I thought that this was the future, like you know,
like feature me in a little you know, in a
little while. It was just like boom, here's the music. Okay,
it's time to audition members. All right, let's do this.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
He was writing the COVID too, so like blur, okay,
with getting sick, let's do it.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
How did you So, how did you guys manage that
that audition process then with it being in the middle
of COVID and Oscar I want to hear your story too,
But how did you manage that?

Speaker 2 (04:49):
You know?

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Was it a lot of zoom lot with what we're
doing right now?

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 6 (04:54):
Yeah, it was just a lot of zoom, a lot
to make sure we have all the information we need
before we actually meet anyone. And like then basically once
we you know, lock someone in. We weren't having parties
with everyone on the weekend. You know, it was like
our select group of people like all right, we don't
hate you from the very beginning, like, let's see if
we can make this work.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
Right.

Speaker 6 (05:14):
So, yeah, we basically quarantined together and coming into to
know Elease, like we had all been in the scene
for a little while and in prospective projects of our
own and so getting to know a Lease. The first
thing I learned about her was that she was this
big time hacker for corporations who can like really mess
up your world and so to.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
To you know, yeah, that's that was basically what I said.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Uh, it's gonna turn my phone off right here.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, yeah, there you go. Yeah, think ahead. And so.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
Your day job is, Okay, you're a hacker for the FBI,
got it, that's the story we're going.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Let's that line.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
No, okay, well you can continue and then I can yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
Well, but yeah, I mean I got to know a
last through one of the best most comfortable places to
know someone is Craigslist. You know, meeting strangers on Craigslist
is the best way to get in to know someone.
But basically it was really fast chemistry I think with
all of us, like we all just wanted to have
a good time. We've gotten to the point where we'd
done like the grind thing for a while and we

(06:23):
were really ready to focus and put our strongest efforts
on a project. So doing it during COVID really put
us in an opportunity to just quarantine together and basically
be like, Okay, this is our second full time job.
We're all going to be here Monday through Friday as
soon as work is over six to one in the morning.
Every single day, we're writing it out, we're working in
the studio, we're doing recordings, we're making plans, and it

(06:46):
was basically just a full head on effort from the
very beginning. And really, like Alis said, we don't like
to get compared to a lot of other projects that
are in the similar vein.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
So that's kind of where the name came from as well.

Speaker 6 (07:00):
You know there like delicate and tense and like looks
very like bold, but also has a delicate reference of lilac.
You know, lilac flowers, lilac color, and so I think
with our sound, we really combine that essence of delicate
but bold and and when you look up Lilac l
y l VC, you are not going to find anyone else.

(07:22):
You are only going to find us, and you are
absolutely going to find out who we are.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, I got it.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
I did.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
I did want to spell the band kind of like normally,
but I did get voted.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
That's not heavy metal at least. Yeah, you got it.
You gotta throw a random letter, a random another syllable
in there.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Come on, They're like, we don't need to our fans
don't need to have a spell.

Speaker 5 (07:47):
It's okay, that's metal.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
We're a bunch of dumb We're a bunch of dumb
metal heads. They don't we don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
I've noticed so many bands that use vs instead of
as now like after we I mean, we do that,
we have like with V, but Paris does Paris with V.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
That's a good point, Like there's a.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
Lot of bands that are doing a V instead of
an as.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
All right, that's the last joke I'll make about it.
I promise Lilac the name of the band. I dig it, though,
and the sound is interesting. Now, Oscar, you come for
more of a hip hop background, right.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yep, yep, yep, I do.

Speaker 6 (08:20):
I grew up on I mean, eminem fifty, a lot
of old school stuff like Jurassic five, Biggie Tupac, stuff
like that. So my original kind of background was like
old school hip hop for sure.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
When I was trying to audition for rappers, I was
looking through all of these craigsl sads and whoever had
a profile of just money, I just like skip them,
you know.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
So luckily, like Oscar was using his room.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, I was just like like gold Watches.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
It's like the dude with the fish on Tinder, like skip, yeah,
keep moving. But really for so really that's where you
guys found each other.

Speaker 6 (09:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had been I'd been doing a
solo project for a while, and I had actually been
a rapper for another band that I had started in
the past that ended up, you know, going the line
of a lot of bands and just fell through for
one reason or another. And I had been interested in
doing something collaborative. Again, That's That's where I'd come from.
I'd grown up being in bands. So I come across

(09:23):
this ad for this chick jumping off of a drum
set in the middle of.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
The air, and I was like, that looks pretty cool,
Like she looks like fun and so I was like,
you know, let me hit her up.

Speaker 6 (09:34):
And I didn't know what to expect. I was like,
you know, let me. She sent me a track and
I had to write a song to it. So like
the first time we were meeting, she's like, okay, perform,
you know, and I was like, okay, this is what
I had and she was like, Okay, that's terrible.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Let's try again. But see that's the thing at Lisa's
so understanding, so understanding.

Speaker 6 (09:56):
It's so great to work with because she'll tell you
straight up you know.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
That was a crap, but let's give it another shots.
I think it was.

Speaker 6 (10:04):
I was literally like because at least gave such an
impression of like, look, this is my vision for this thing,
this is what I've done, this, like we're we're gonna
make it happen with this. And I was like, okay, palm,
sweaty knees, weak, Yeah, let's let's try and make it happen.
And so, yeah, it was terrible first audition, but I
got a second one.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Well, that's good.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
What's important is that, like, like even with Lincoln Park,
you know that, like you know that Chester wasn't dating
Mike's Jana, nobody thought of them dating, right, and so
like I think when it comes with.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
A base possible, it is definitely possible.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
But what I'm saying is is that it's a lot
a lot of times when it comes with a male
vocalist and a female vocalist in the same act, they
tend to always assume that they're dating. And we wanted
to make sure that when we started writing together that
we were able to start learning how to write and
tell the same story but from different perspectives, Like we
don't have to.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
Be dating, which you know we're not.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
We don't have to be dating in order to be
able to like both feel that same emotion that came
out of that song, you know, and both write about
it from two different perspectives.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
And I think it was it was really good for us.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
To quarantine together like at the beginning, because we had
to like learn each other and learn our backgrounds, Like
we come from completely different stories and so to be
able to mesh that into a song, you know, relate,
find things that we relate on for different emotions. I
think was beautiful and it's really helped us, I think

(11:39):
later on as we've matured our sound.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Absolutely, there's no outside distractions, right, I mean that's that's
the thing. We you know, bands locked themselves in studios
or in a house, or they travel somewhere to specifically
to write a record. It's because there's no outside distractions.
So we were forced into no outside distractions. It's not
a bad thing.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Again, Lilac is the name of the band because I
know that, you know, when when I have these guests on,
especially the podcast.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
You may not know the music.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Uh when I'm when I'm talking to a brand new band,
at least for the mainstream sense like you guys are.
So I would repeat it again. The band is Lilac,
but spelled with a V. The why is the same
the eyes a V. So that's that's that's the band.
So explain your sound then, because again, now Oscar, you're
doing you're doing rapping.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
I mean you're doing rapping. How how white and ole
do I sound?

Speaker 4 (12:34):
You're you know, you're doing hip hop style vocals over
these this, you know, and at least you said metal
but it is very Cynthia. It is very like I
was trying to think of because automatically, as as a
former radio programmer, my brain goes to that. I was
trying to think of what, you know, bands, kind of
what in the vein in the realm, you know what

(12:56):
I mean. I can't really think of one because yes,
the female male thing over heavy metal. Okay, so I
think of Lacuna Coil. Well, but you're wrapping, not screaming,
so that's different already.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Musically.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Maybe there's some you know, ninety style industrial goth in there,
you know, orgy and things like that, but still for
a modern sense, it's an interesting mix.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
I mean Cam is like really passionate about like like
he loved nine inch nails and a lot.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Of yeah you can kind of hear that.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yeah yeah, yeah, and so I and now now he
loves creating like really really new futuristic sounds.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
Like he plays with a lot of plug ins and everything.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
We're very techy in our band, like I'm a hacker
and he's a job developer.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
We're very techy. But he his passion is.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Just like like I might breathe into the microphone and
he's gonna like reverse it and then add like a
lot of plugs and weird sounds onto it, and now
it's and he made it into a synth weird and now.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
He makes like a noise too now and.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Then oscars wrapping over it, you know, and so like, yeah,
we like playing with a lot of different sounds and
really trying to break the genres a little bit.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
So it's not just like you have to sound like
you know, this.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Band that we know that does rap rock, like you
have to sound like Limp Biscuit, or you have to
sound like Rage against the Machine, Like we can be
our own sound, and I love that.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Oh I think that's important.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Though, if you try to sound like somebody else, it's
never gonna work. You're already too late on it anyway,
because somebody already did it.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
You know, if it comes naturally, it comes naturally. That's
one thing.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
But to Planet that seems kind of ridiculous. So yeah,
I think you guys are already a step ahead when
it comes to that. The current single you have out
is a very sexual single. It's called Triple X, but
there's obviously the tones in there, and imagine that comes
from somewhere it's not just hey, it's a sex to

(14:56):
get it's a song to get down to.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, I mean so I had so with XEXX, I
wanted to write like kind of a sexy song, but
I wanted it to be like almost like a succubus
is like grabbing like the energy from like her fans
or followers, like everybody is like chanting. I wanted to
make I purposely made the chorus like into this chance

(15:23):
so that way, like everybody who is just adding to
this energy, like you know the lyrics after hearing the
the chorus like the first time, right, and now you're
joining in, you're feeling that energy, and she's just like
feeding off the sexual energy of her like of her following.
And I just thought that would be so powerful, and yeah,
people would catch on really fast.

Speaker 5 (15:44):
And Oscar wrote it from a different perspective. So I
don't know, if you want to.

Speaker 6 (15:47):
Really try to give it, you know, both sides of
the story, because when when you think of a souccubiss,
you don't necessarily think of like something good, right, like
this is not necessarily something you're excited to be involved in,
but like it is a sexy song. My perspective bringing
like coming to talk about this was from a sense
of feeling trapped or you know, lost in this like

(16:10):
energy of being lost to this this demon who's pulling
you in right and you can't get away from it.
And that's why I like even in the chorus like yeah, sex, sex, sex,
But it's I think we bring this aggressive tone because
you're not it's not necessarily that you're excited or happy
about being trapped in this place where this succubus is
just pulling you in and you have no way out

(16:30):
and now you're stuck in this life. And I wanted
to encapsulate the sense of rage that can come from
like something you can't get away from, you have no
control over anymore, and now it's just you're.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
There and all you want is to like escape.

Speaker 6 (16:45):
So that's why like in my in my verse, I
talk you know, going too lost myself from slipping away slowly,
got to break this cell a drug, how you control me?
Like it's this real sense of feeling trapped, feeling like
there is no escape and the aggravation and rage that
comes from that, and I wanted to like push that
forward with the chorus and like with my verse.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Meanwhile, Lisa's Lisa's on the other side going no, it's okay,
come here.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
Yeah, exactly, you know, blood is getting hotter. I'm a mess, mess, mess.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Push me a little farther, like I want their heads
to just become a freaking mess, you know, where they
don't know what you're doing.

Speaker 5 (17:22):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
I love it, hey man.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Some of the sexiest music out there for me, right
is stuff like type of negative and and uh, you know,
maybe even there was a couple of Manson records that
were that kind of slow, you know groove. That's like
all right, all right, So some of that darker gothy
stuff when it comes to that style of music oddly
works really well.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 6 (17:48):
It's not always candles and sweet jazz and like the fireplaces.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
Nothing wrong with that though, nothing wrong with that deaf
tones too. I'd be promissed if I didn't say deaf
tones on those Natino's voice and it's like automatic my
pants fell off.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
But anyway, that's besides the point. And I'm straight, so
figure that out.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Uh just has away, man, He's just exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
So what where do you guys go from here?

Speaker 4 (18:14):
And obviously the song's out, you have any p out
if I'm looking at this correctly, and if I'm not,
I apologize because I really don't know a lot about
you guys until this conversation. What musically you know, what's
what's coming? And then touring as well.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, yeah, So we just wrote a whole bunch of
new music with Kane Jerko Kane.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
Yeah, okay, maybe.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
For those of you who are listening, Caine has written
like songs like blood By in this moment and in
like a whole bunch of hits for a five Finger
Death Punch and bad Omens and uh Disturbed and they
listen more.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yeah, I think more.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
There's so many hits.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Uh. And so anyway, we just wrote a whole bunch
of music with Kane. And what's interesting is Kine actually
did a different take on like kind of producing our
sound because in the previously our music that we've released
with the EP and with XXX and krawl Space, with
our release music, we worked with Howard Benson's team, and
so Howard he's famous for like working with c Either

(19:20):
and Forman yeah, and so like very very rock vein,
you know, and so working with Kine, he's what's interesting
is that he actually thought of us as like kind
of like the rock version of the.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
Black Eyed Peas or like he was like, we let's
feed into this. I want to write very modern like
and he was just like, so Oscar, like like.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Right, is modern of rap as you possibly can, and
I'm just gonna throw some guitars over it and it
will still sound like a rock song, like let's do this.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
And like he even like with my voice, so I
have I have a really wide like.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Dyna range, but sometimes in rock songs, you know, you
don't really get to show it off as much. I
mean you can I show off my voice in our
previous songs, but like this, he really wanted to like
give me moments I guess to shine. And so there
was times where he made like the music just like
cut out and he was like, all right, at least
I want you to do some crazy like Christina Aguileras

(20:19):
shit right here, you know, and so it was just
like okay, let's let's do it. And so and then
he yeah, added a lot of rock music to it.
You know, with him and Cam both are really passionate
about like new plugins and synth sounds and being futuristic
so I think they nerd it out on making uh

(20:39):
just the songs be crazy, crazy different.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Well, if at least you got the voice to do it,
then why not you know.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
Yeah, yeah, I'm stoked. I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
And like even with the tours, like I hit like
a like a high G six or something every single night,
like every single night on tour, which is crazy, and
so a lot of our fans are just like floored
when they hear like.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
A sustained note like that.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
And then we go back into the head banging because
our live show is so energetic, like Oscar and I
are pushing and pulling each other.

Speaker 5 (21:08):
We're head banging NonStop. And then we have Cam.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
He's climbing light towers and playing wireless keyboards on the
top of light towers and he's lifting keyboards above his
head and he's shaking, and so like all of us
are just like constantly moving on stage and like you know,
just throwing our bodies around. And so to be able
to still you know, show off your voice is really nice.

(21:30):
I like I like being able to still show like, hey,
I got pipes too, I.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
Don't just jump around, you know.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
But anyway, so like coming up We're going to be
releasing a new single called Barely Human literally within the.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
Next few weeks.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
I'm really really and we're going to be releasing it
with a Europe tour. We are going on tour in Europe. Actually,
it's gonna go through like.

Speaker 5 (21:55):
Ireland and.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Like London and scott and uh like Germany and Netherlands
and Poland and public like so many areas and like
a lot of like there's like eight or nine cities
that are already sold out, like like London O two
Arena is sold out twenty two hundred people. Like every
single night is just like thousands and thousands of people.
So we're like really really excited to be doing this tour.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
We're going with.

Speaker 5 (22:24):
Yeah Hazard, Life of Agony.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Oh oh old school. Yeah, now you're talking my world.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Man.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
That's like the posters I had on the wall when
I was a kid, you know, Biohazard and Life of Agony,
you know, next to my eighty seven thousand Metallica posters.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah, it was great.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
I mean they're still selling out huge arenas and amphitheaters, man,
and so we're we're really really to be going on
tour with them for sure, yeah, especially for the Barely
Human tours. So, like we you know Jenson Noan, the
music the music director. He's been doing like videos for
like Falling in Reverse, like the Ronald video. Oh yeah, okay, yeah,
there's like a giant tornado that swarms around Tech nine

(23:04):
and then like the devil comes out. Well anyway, so
like he's been doing videos for like in This Moment
and Iceman Kills and just so many bands. Well we
hired him to do our music video for Barely Human.

Speaker 5 (23:16):
And it's insane.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
So like Oscar and I are like half human half robot,
and like we're fighting at the end of the world.
Like where in a world where like basically like a
virus has spread Okay, a computer I write a lot
of computer viruses for my day.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Yeah, get the theme. I get the theme you're going
with here.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
And so if I if I wrote a couter virus
that just happened to you know, infect humans, and it
killed a lot of people, okay, and so like but
the humans that survived, I guess they can integrate with
machine code a little bit better, okay. And so like
you have this post apocalyptic world where like like a
lot of people are dead and like they don't really

(23:58):
know how to I guess survive in this new age.
And so some people are like, well, if we can
integrate with machine code, let's just go full full robot guys,
let's full full AI like turn off our empathy, like
who needs empathy and just.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Some cyberpunk stuff going on here.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah. And then and then you know, there's another half
of humans that are like, no, we need to like
fight for trying to you know, sustain our humanity and
and you know, get get humans to be better again,
you know, and keep our empathy. And so like we're
just like fighting and as we're losing an arm, you know,
you got to replace it with a robotic arm. If
you lose an eye, you got to replace it with

(24:32):
a robotic eye. And so Oscar is in charge of
the people that want to keep their empathy and resistance. Yeah,
and I'm and I'm in charge of the people that
just like want to turn off like my switch because
like my whole life, I've I've had issues with I
think sometimes I disconnect from emotions. You know, like anybody

(24:54):
who's gone through traumatic experiences, like you, you almost feel
like you're things are happening around you, but it's you're
watching it happen and you're disassociating.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
I guess a little bit from it.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, so I feel like my switch turns off sometimes,
and so I wrote that song the bridge of that
song saying, I've just decided to turn my switch off.
You know, I'm not going to feel I'm not going
to care like I'm going to be the ruin of
the human race, like I'm going to destroy the world,
and I've chosen to do that by just turning off

(25:28):
my switch.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
And I and so anyway, it's it's a really.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Powerful song, and Oscar and I get this huge Katana
fight scene at the end.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
It's pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
God, with everything going on, is this song like thirteen
minutes long?

Speaker 2 (25:44):
No, you'll get to experience it.

Speaker 5 (25:48):
I mean it's it's yeah, the three minutes and.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Thirty's Oscar, what were we going to say?

Speaker 1 (25:54):
I was just gonna say.

Speaker 6 (25:55):
I mean, themes like this are what we really got
to explore with Kane, and I think that's why we
ended up putting doing so much with the music video, right,
is because there is so much energy in this song.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Right, I think from beginning to end, it's like just smacks, and.

Speaker 6 (26:08):
Cain really gave us the opportunity to sit and explore
a lot of these themes of you know how responses
to trauma, right, like turning off your switch and being
cold to the world, and exploring themes of humanity versus
technology in a world now where like we're losing our
humanity to like our connections to you know, our devices,

(26:32):
and the way we interact with people is only online
or through technology now. So it's this theme of like
are we human anymore? Are we people anymore? Like what
does it mean to be human? And I think Cain
let us sit in that a lot. Which was so
unique about the experience with Kin, right, is that he
he said, no, we're gonna sit here for two days

(26:54):
and we're just gonna like think of ideas and like
this verse that you think works is trash. He brought
that idea from Elise and he's like, no, we're going
to rewrite it again and we're gonna work on this.
Like what is it that you're legitimately trying to say?
I think is what Caine pushed us to do, right,
is like not sit back on like what we know
we're good at, but push us to do things that

(27:16):
we didn't even realize we could do, you know, like
we had never done like super high notes like that
in other songs, where like it was a centerfocal point
of that section of the song. And I think to
highlight pieces of that really shows how he wanted each
of us to individually shine in this in this song
and Barely Human is a great example of basically the

(27:36):
next era of what we're doing with the band.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
That's amazing. I can't wait to hear it. When's that
coming out?

Speaker 5 (27:43):
Well, we're currently in.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Potential LEO agreement with maybe signing to a record label.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
Oh oh yeah, yeah, given who you're working with, I
think I might know who that record label is.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
But I'm not going to say it out loud, But
if if.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
That, if we do decide to sign, you know, because
I mean, we've we've gone, we've come so far on
our own, and I think we're really really proud of
like the moves that we're making and the tours that
we're getting on and everything like that, Like all of
that has come from us, you know, Like so it's
crazy what we've done since COVID, Like it's it's insane,
Like what we've done on our own, and the people

(28:25):
that we're working with, like Howard's team is unbelievable, you know,
like the people that he's worked with, and Kane shirk
Goes team, you know, like Kane Drigo is everybody that
we work with is insane. And our booking agents and
our PR representatives, everything is great, and we have an
amazing team that you know, we've created. But I think

(28:46):
to explore seeing what a label can do to take
us to the next level and get us in front
of even more people and just really raise that awareness
and that marketing and stuff. I am interested to see
what combining.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
Forces would do.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
And yeah, so anyway, if that agreement gets finalized this week,
then we're looking at an early March release. Our tour
in Europe begins February twenty second.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
We're going to be on the road.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Yes you want this song out.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Yeah, absolutely, especially since we're playing the arenas of thousands
of people, right but they definitely need enough time to
like switch everything over and involve their teams and everything
like that, so it's crunched so well, we're going to
be on the road from February twenty second through March
twenty ninth, and so we're hoping that if we release

(29:40):
very very first week of March, we'll still have an
entire month of touring in Europe while, you know, and
then that way, the beginning of the tour, we can
just say we're going to release this song in a.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
Couple of days. It's going to be.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Great, all right, Yeah yeah, and you can hear it now.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, yeah, here's song exactly, Yeah, perfect, I love it.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
I wish you guys the best.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
So that that tour is happening in Europe, do you
have anything more local, more stateside on the books? Are
you kind of waiting to see?

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (30:14):
So we actually just finished in December. We just finished
the tour East Coast and Midwest. I'm really hoping because
like when we first started touring as a band, like
we did, like when we toured with a Tray You
and Pop Evil and stuff, a lot of our earlier
tours were actually on the West Coast, and so we
haven't played to our West Coast fans in a while.

(30:36):
The past couple of tours have been very East Coast
and Midwest.

Speaker 5 (30:39):
So I would love to be.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
When we get back from Europe, I want to do
some festivals. Of course you got to hit the summer
fest but I think it would be cool to like
do some more like West Again before we go back
to East Coast. But you never know, it depends on
the bands that are going out like in you know
joining you know forces with them, what tour packages are already.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
But right now it's all we got in the books.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Right now is just this fairly human release. We have
the Europe tour with Biohazard in Life of Agony, and
then we have already done some music videos with Scott Hansen,
and we have some things in the pipeline for releasing
more music.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
That's amazing. It's a pleasure to meet you too, it
truly is. Yeah, thank you for having us always. Lilac
again is the name of the band. It's with a V,
not an I or with an A. Wait, how do
you spell Lilac Now? I'm confused by there you go.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
I love it. That's how Shelby known from this day.
Fourth a rule.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
Has been made a Lisa Oscar thank you guys so
much for joining us. Appreciate it and I can't wait
to hear more new music.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Thank you so much, so much.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
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