April 18, 2025 • 15 mins
Have you ever wondered what bands do during their off time? Like when they aren't on the road or in the middle of a new album. Well, artists do what artists do, and that is creative creation. In this case, that creation is music. While Theory of a Deadman should be on break, Tyler has been hard at work on some new tunes and making amazing fashion choices. Sometimes we just need "hey, what are you doing?" style catch up, and that's exactly what this is.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
My attention plays and no it cutters rock Cat.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Okay, I got me? Do I have you, Tyler?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Ha ha.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
And now now we can have a conversation. Let's do
it about the beauty of shitty studio equipment.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I know all about it.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I'm sure you do, Tyler Connolly, theory of a dead man.
It's good to see you, man, nice Miller genuine draft
hat you're wearing today.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
You know I'll tell you this. This hat I've gotten
the most compliments for. I got a Walmart of all
plays on tour somewhere maybe Wisconsin, at a Walmart for
eight dollars or something.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
And you wouldn't believe I've been in.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
I'll be in an elevator and someone will be like,
where did you get that hat? And I'm be like,
with this thing, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
My Walmart. I had a dude stop me on the street. Dude,
has that got the phone on the inside? My gad,
does where'd you get that?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
That's kind of an all male retro throwback thing? No,
I get it. I get it.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yeah, And being a Wisconsin boys supporting our beer brand,
I like it.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
You think I did it on purpose? Like, no, this
has actually had I were like the the whole tour
we just finished.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh yeah, how was it? How was that tour? By
the way, how did everything go? The acoustic stuff and
all that.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
It's great. I mean we're definitely something we're going to
implement forever. I think that.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
We dished a bunch of this stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
We've had to make a decision, you know, because we
have it was a whole basement set, and I mean
it cost us a bunch of money to build it.
I mean we have the stairs that go up into
like an upstairs, so we come, we come on stage
down stairs into a basement. So we had to get
them all built, which is really fun to like go
(01:45):
up before the show.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
You have to go up these other said the stairs
behind the state. It's a lot fun. But yeah, it
costs a lot of money to build all this staging
and stuff. But we're like should we keep this stuff?
What do we do? You know, we have to store
this now for however long.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
So I think we did a lot of it and
then we'll the next one will be another idea a
little bit more.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
It's not a basement, it's somewhere else, somebody's garage.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
It's a garage, could be cool.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
We're thinking maybe like maybe the next one will be
like outdoors. Maybe it's a campfire thing or something real
fire on stage.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I love that, though I used I had the thought
for a long time playing in you know, silly cover bands,
and I'm like, why why don't we recreate? We were
doing acoustic gigs during the pandemic and stuff, and like,
why don't we recreate like the MTV unplug set. Yeah,
and just show up at these bars, because you know
that's what we do, show up at these bars and
just like light a bunch.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Of candles and you know whatever. They didn't like that.
It's some sort of fire ordinance.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I don't know. Oh yeah, well you could do the
fake candles now, the ones.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
That's true that just flicker. Those are cheap. You get
those at the dollar store or one you just need
to get that rocking chair. Who was it to the
rocking chair? Somebody do the most kin to the rocking.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Did he do the rocking share?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah? I remember, I remember. The The best one was
the Allison Chains one by.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Far, absolutely, that's the quintessential. Yeah, they come on stage
during nutshell. I read some interview that Lane that he
had to do hairin right before he went out on stage.
She said that he had to do it or he
wouldn't be able to do the show. So it doesn't
crazy to think that he just had to he had
your hair win backstage and then to be able to
(03:25):
do that.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Well, okay, I mean you've been down this path a
long time. Have you ever had at a point where
he had to take a shot or how to you know,
get a little you know, because there are people that
are like that, you got to you gotta do something,
and if you have an addiction, unfortunately that's the way
it works. And you know, obviously we saw what happened
because he's no longer here.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yeah, it's so sad, very sad, so talented, but yeah,
I mean I've never had that issue.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
I think there's probably here and there, maybe like a
home show is usually it's not nerve wracking, but more
stress home shows or then like something that's like live,
but we haven't done those in years. But like back
in the day when they had like you know, Jay
Leno and the Tonight Show, we went on a couple
of those.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Those are pretty nerve wracking.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
I probably did a shot before that, But nowadays there's
not there's zero, there's zero nerves. People ask me, are
your nerves gonna say? It's like zero, it's like going
to work. It's there's zero nerves. But everybody's different. I
think some people would think that's weird.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
What's wild to me. What's wild to me is how
many people still think that the backstage area of a
rock show is still like it's strippers and blow and
you know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
It's samgard and is Yeah that room he built under
the stage right with Van Halen, he read his book
where he talked about like yep, but during Eddie's guitar
so he would go back and have sex with like.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
In some room he built with a bed and then
he'd come back on stage in the rope. No. Yeah,
I mean years ago when you were playing a show.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
With three doors down, some chick snack back stage and
she was like, where's the party, and we're like, there's nothing.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
There's just there's a bathroom. There's it's just it's an arena.
There's nothing. There's like there's hockey change rooms.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Right, it's a locker room that smells.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
It's a locker room stinks, and the showers are like
the ones where you pushed the button on the wall
and it only sprays for like thirty seconds.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
It's not it's it's not nice. There's no party.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Maybe a cup of tea. Would you like a tea? Yeah,
some honey in that get real crazy.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Unless you're Tommy Lee, unless you unless your crew, then
Tommy Lee still likes to have a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, that's a different level.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, there's DJ parties exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
So theory of a dead Man obviously, you guys just
do this acoustic ron and and you know the thing.
The thing about theory, your music truly translates that way.
Just as a listener, you can hear it. How even
some of the more rock and roll songs like obviously
that girlfriend of Lowlife or something, you could still go, yeah,
I could hear that on acoustic. But obviously you theory.
(06:01):
You guys have done sort of obviously the jokey songs,
but you've done the very serious thought out there's a
message here kind of music as well. That chili lends
itself there as well. You've really tyler over the years.
It feels like you guys have really been able to
kind of create that we can do whatever whenever we
feel like, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Mean it's I think once you become successful with something,
just like an actor you got like you know, Jim
Carrey or something, it's like, well, you're one trick pony. Okay,
you're really funny, but can you actually act right? Can
you do do drama? Can you do something where you
can be nominated for an award? So bands are the same, Like, yeah,
(06:43):
bad Girlfriend was a fun song. We could do interviews
and they'd be like, well, so you guys are like
a party band, like what you talk. So yeah, we
are known for fun songs like Bitch Came Back, I
Hate My Life. But yeah, I mean, there's definitely our
X was a big one for us. That was a
big step out of the box for Theory of a
dead Man.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I mean, that was it.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
That was a home run, but also a bit of
a head scratcher for a lot of people because they're like,
this is theory of a dead man. This is not
what I would have expected. So it kind of made
the band a little more well rounded, and that also
gave us a bit of a you know, jump off
point of going, well, let's continue, let's write. So History
(07:24):
of Violence was another song went to number one, and
that was about domestic violence. World Key Spinning was a
really so I'm really proud of that's about you know, depression.
So yeah, we can definitely get into those kind of songs.
We're just maybe not as well known for them, right.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Which is funny, right because our ex maybe and I
don't know if I'm correcting this, but at least on
par with that girlfriend or maybe the biggest theory song
at this point as far as commercial viability and sales
and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Yeah, yeah, I mean sometimes I think to myself, like,
man if I wrote this in two thousand and one,
what I have a five times platinum black on my wall?
You know, Like, but you know, everything's timing. That song
didn't exist, so it couldn't come right in thousand and
one where you Yeah, I mean the song was huge.
(08:21):
It was I think it's six hundred million streams or something.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
It's massive.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
It's giant. It's giant, and it's a well it's a
well crafted song, there's no question about it.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Thanks, You're welcome. Where are you at now? As far
as songwriting goes? Like what what's tripping your trigger? What's
driving you?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
So we kind of Uh for me, like I went
through a huge phase of writing these kind of songs
where was a little different.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I was attracted to everything that was, uh not what
I used to do anytime I'd pick up a guitar
and write some riffs. I'm like, but I feel like
now I've gone I've really kind of gone back to
a nostalgia feel. A lot of the stuff that I've
been writing is a lot more like the early theory
of de Man.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
That sounds even like our first, first or second record
that's more Southern rock and putting slide guitar back in
all those songs. But we're we're gonna go record some
songs in May. Like that's in one month, so we've
got a bunch of songs. Okay, we're ready to go.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah, you guys gotta go to the album Rot.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
You're gonna do the new thing of just releasing a
single every six weeks until there's enough four an album.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, we don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Like the big big change nowadays is the financial part.
I mean when you know, back when they would give
you hundreds of thousands of dollars to go make a record,
you were like, let's put a secret song in let's
do this six minute you know jazz odyssey.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Or you know, spinout tapp number.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
And then you realize that, like, well, every song you
record costs the same amount of money.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
So if you're going to record a B side, it
costs no one cares.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
You're still using studio, you're still staying somewhere and paying
for hotels and the mixing.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
So we're like, well, maybe we should just focus on
the best songs.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
So I mean, right now, we're going to record three songs,
and I think we're gonna go back in the phone
court three more and then we'll have half a record.
So by then we've got six songs, and we'll choose
which one is going to be lead the lead song,
and then I think we're gonna the timing is twenty
twenty six, have a new song.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Okay, we gotta wait that you're gonna make us wait
that long?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Come on? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Well, the problem, honestly, the problem isn't not the materials done.
Is the problem is the the touring. We've toured so
much that we've I think we've rung that towel so
dry that I think our agent told us he's like,
you're ringing the tell pretty dry Tyler. I'm like, all right,
all right, we kind of got to go away a
little bit, which is tough for us to do. We
love to tour, so but it comes fast. It's already April,
(10:52):
so next thing, you know, in the summer. Yeah, and
then by summer we'll have, well, Laurie start thinking about
released time. It takes a long time to figure out
like release dates and then shoot music videos and then.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Putting it, putting a tour together.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Probably you mean there's all a business side of this.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
What there's Yeah, there's a sign that that is the
non fun side.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I like that we have all these people that take
care of that stuff, the logistical parts that we're like huh.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah. I like to I sometimes like to yell a
lot and say it's like, I don't know, how would
I know. I'm just a singer.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
That's why I like to say to people a lot,
the singer ends up knowing the least amount. What do
you mean?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, that's what they think. But I sometimes I like
to play dumb, but just so.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
You can, yeah, yeah, don't blame me, don't blame me.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I'm just a singer.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I'm just a singer. It's fine. Yeah, you guys have
played a lot, but that is your that is that
is the bread and butter. The theory of a dead
Man live show is always a fun thing to go see.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, we enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
And it's interesting because, uh, you know, we hear about
bands breaking up all the time or bands retiring, and
my first response is like, what are.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
They going to do? Like what do you do? Like,
I don't know, I don't have anything else.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
This is it.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
So this is kind of like I'm a lifer so
until I find something that I enjoy doing more than
performing live and touring, like, I don't know, but all
everyone in the band loves it.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
We have a great crew too. They all love love
coming out. Look at just calling me right now?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
This guy, why is he calling you right now?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
He knows you because I got I got another interview
and he's oh, They're like, where are you. I'm on
the interview. You just had your face on.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Geez.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I'm sorry. I can I can go forever. I can
go forever on these things. That's my problem because I
just like, I just like talking about music with music people.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
That's my thing.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
But okay, well then let's let's let's get some business
out of the way, uh, the rest of this year.
Then you're writing, you're you know, maybe talking about a
release in early twenty twenty six, and and it sounds
like some of the old stuff or is that's just
you're incorporating that and all these things coming together. Like
I'm just really curious, you know, you get to this
(13:08):
point now I tried all these different things.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
It's not really amalgamation. It really is does sound like
the writing.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I mean, I mean I started working on a song
yesterday and I'm like, gee, this is just fits. This
is so perfect with like something that would go with
scars and souvenirs or something from a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I don't know. I mean that's kind of where I
came from.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
But yeah, as you get older, it gets tougher, not
the songwriting, but trying to figure out, like.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
What do I write about? Like, you know, because usually
you write at it from a place of.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Arcissism from your drama, right, anxiety if I'm going through
a breakup or something. So for me to write a
breakup song now it's like, well, who'd you break up?
And it's like nobody, It's just the same person I'm
just reitering. I'm still having night about it. So it
becomes interesting about how do you write when you're like
fifty years old. It's like you have to just go
(14:05):
back and write about stuff because no one wants to
know about. Oh, what's the strife of Tyler today? Wow?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I had a bad round of golf? Can I write
about that?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I had to get bifocal. You got a bifocal record?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, I have to get readers. Now should I write
a song about that? Yeah? Exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Let me put on my readers and owner be able
to sing about this thing I want to sing about.
After all that and oh, readers came off? Hold on, yeah,
keep going.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Well, we do have this new song that's it's so good.
It's such a great song. I can't wait for people
to hear it. And the song is literally about what
it's like to be kind of a little bit older
and not want to go out and do stuff. It's
such a great song. I can't really talk too much
about it, but it is almost like the anti the
(14:54):
anti bar song.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
It's really good. I'm really excited.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I'll tell you what, man, it's good to catch up
with you. You got other stuff, did you go do it.
This was more about just saying hello and seeing what
the world is like with Theory of a Dead Man
in twenty twenty five, and now we know the answer
to that.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
For the most part.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
You guys are working on new music and it should
be out in twenty twenty six, and you won't tour
until then.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
We got a bunch of summer dates, but they're festivals, right,
the one offs, one offs, one offs. Yeah, no tours,
but yeah, I'm assumed by fall we'll start putting that
together because it takes probably four or five months to
start booking that stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
But yeah, I would say early next year new music,
for sure.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Can't wait. Let's catch up again then, huh.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, for sure. Thanks man, all right, good to see it.
Good to see you as well. Tyler from Theory of
a Dead Man. Take care body see you man.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Carter's Rock Cast. Don't forget to tune in exactly
My attention plays and no it cutters rock Cat.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Okay, I got me? Do I have you, Tyler?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Ha ha.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
And now now we can have a conversation. Let's do
it about the beauty of shitty studio equipment.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I know all about it.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I'm sure you do, Tyler Connolly, theory of a dead man.
It's good to see you, man, nice Miller genuine draft
hat you're wearing today.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
You know I'll tell you this. This hat I've gotten
the most compliments for. I got a Walmart of all
plays on tour somewhere maybe Wisconsin, at a Walmart for
eight dollars or something.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
And you wouldn't believe I've been in.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
I'll be in an elevator and someone will be like,
where did you get that hat? And I'm be like,
with this thing, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
My Walmart. I had a dude stop me on the street. Dude,
has that got the phone on the inside? My gad,
does where'd you get that?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
That's kind of an all male retro throwback thing? No,
I get it. I get it.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yeah, And being a Wisconsin boys supporting our beer brand,
I like it.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
You think I did it on purpose? Like, no, this
has actually had I were like the the whole tour
we just finished.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh yeah, how was it? How was that tour? By
the way, how did everything go? The acoustic stuff and
all that.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
It's great. I mean we're definitely something we're going to
implement forever. I think that.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
We dished a bunch of this stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
We've had to make a decision, you know, because we
have it was a whole basement set, and I mean
it cost us a bunch of money to build it.
I mean we have the stairs that go up into
like an upstairs, so we come, we come on stage
down stairs into a basement. So we had to get
them all built, which is really fun to like go
(01:45):
up before the show.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
You have to go up these other said the stairs
behind the state. It's a lot fun. But yeah, it
costs a lot of money to build all this staging
and stuff. But we're like should we keep this stuff?
What do we do? You know, we have to store
this now for however long.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
So I think we did a lot of it and
then we'll the next one will be another idea a
little bit more.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
It's not a basement, it's somewhere else, somebody's garage.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
It's a garage, could be cool.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
We're thinking maybe like maybe the next one will be
like outdoors. Maybe it's a campfire thing or something real
fire on stage.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I love that, though I used I had the thought
for a long time playing in you know, silly cover bands,
and I'm like, why why don't we recreate? We were
doing acoustic gigs during the pandemic and stuff, and like,
why don't we recreate like the MTV unplug set. Yeah,
and just show up at these bars, because you know
that's what we do, show up at these bars and
just like light a bunch.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Of candles and you know whatever. They didn't like that.
It's some sort of fire ordinance.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I don't know. Oh yeah, well you could do the
fake candles now, the ones.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
That's true that just flicker. Those are cheap. You get
those at the dollar store or one you just need
to get that rocking chair. Who was it to the
rocking chair? Somebody do the most kin to the rocking.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Did he do the rocking share?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah? I remember, I remember. The The best one was
the Allison Chains one by.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Far, absolutely, that's the quintessential. Yeah, they come on stage
during nutshell. I read some interview that Lane that he
had to do hairin right before he went out on stage.
She said that he had to do it or he
wouldn't be able to do the show. So it doesn't
crazy to think that he just had to he had
your hair win backstage and then to be able to
(03:25):
do that.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Well, okay, I mean you've been down this path a
long time. Have you ever had at a point where
he had to take a shot or how to you know,
get a little you know, because there are people that
are like that, you got to you gotta do something,
and if you have an addiction, unfortunately that's the way
it works. And you know, obviously we saw what happened
because he's no longer here.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yeah, it's so sad, very sad, so talented, but yeah,
I mean I've never had that issue.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
I think there's probably here and there, maybe like a
home show is usually it's not nerve wracking, but more
stress home shows or then like something that's like live,
but we haven't done those in years. But like back
in the day when they had like you know, Jay
Leno and the Tonight Show, we went on a couple
of those.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Those are pretty nerve wracking.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
I probably did a shot before that, But nowadays there's
not there's zero, there's zero nerves. People ask me, are
your nerves gonna say? It's like zero, it's like going
to work. It's there's zero nerves. But everybody's different. I
think some people would think that's weird.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
What's wild to me. What's wild to me is how
many people still think that the backstage area of a
rock show is still like it's strippers and blow and
you know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
It's samgard and is Yeah that room he built under
the stage right with Van Halen, he read his book
where he talked about like yep, but during Eddie's guitar
so he would go back and have sex with like.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
In some room he built with a bed and then
he'd come back on stage in the rope. No. Yeah,
I mean years ago when you were playing a show.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
With three doors down, some chick snack back stage and
she was like, where's the party, and we're like, there's nothing.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
There's just there's a bathroom. There's it's just it's an arena.
There's nothing. There's like there's hockey change rooms.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Right, it's a locker room that smells.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
It's a locker room stinks, and the showers are like
the ones where you pushed the button on the wall
and it only sprays for like thirty seconds.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
It's not it's it's not nice. There's no party.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Maybe a cup of tea. Would you like a tea? Yeah,
some honey in that get real crazy.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Unless you're Tommy Lee, unless you unless your crew, then
Tommy Lee still likes to have a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, that's a different level.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, there's DJ parties exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
So theory of a dead Man obviously, you guys just
do this acoustic ron and and you know the thing.
The thing about theory, your music truly translates that way.
Just as a listener, you can hear it. How even
some of the more rock and roll songs like obviously
that girlfriend of Lowlife or something, you could still go, yeah,
I could hear that on acoustic. But obviously you theory.
(06:01):
You guys have done sort of obviously the jokey songs,
but you've done the very serious thought out there's a
message here kind of music as well. That chili lends
itself there as well. You've really tyler over the years.
It feels like you guys have really been able to
kind of create that we can do whatever whenever we
feel like, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Mean it's I think once you become successful with something,
just like an actor you got like you know, Jim
Carrey or something, it's like, well, you're one trick pony. Okay,
you're really funny, but can you actually act right? Can
you do do drama? Can you do something where you
can be nominated for an award? So bands are the same, Like, yeah,
(06:43):
bad Girlfriend was a fun song. We could do interviews
and they'd be like, well, so you guys are like
a party band, like what you talk. So yeah, we
are known for fun songs like Bitch Came Back, I
Hate My Life. But yeah, I mean, there's definitely our
X was a big one for us. That was a
big step out of the box for Theory of a
dead Man.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I mean, that was it.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
That was a home run, but also a bit of
a head scratcher for a lot of people because they're like,
this is theory of a dead man. This is not
what I would have expected. So it kind of made
the band a little more well rounded, and that also
gave us a bit of a you know, jump off
point of going, well, let's continue, let's write. So History
(07:24):
of Violence was another song went to number one, and
that was about domestic violence. World Key Spinning was a
really so I'm really proud of that's about you know, depression.
So yeah, we can definitely get into those kind of songs.
We're just maybe not as well known for them, right.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Which is funny, right because our ex maybe and I
don't know if I'm correcting this, but at least on
par with that girlfriend or maybe the biggest theory song
at this point as far as commercial viability and sales
and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Yeah, yeah, I mean sometimes I think to myself, like,
man if I wrote this in two thousand and one,
what I have a five times platinum black on my wall?
You know, Like, but you know, everything's timing. That song
didn't exist, so it couldn't come right in thousand and
one where you Yeah, I mean the song was huge.
(08:21):
It was I think it's six hundred million streams or something.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
It's massive.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
It's giant. It's giant, and it's a well it's a
well crafted song, there's no question about it.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Thanks, You're welcome. Where are you at now? As far
as songwriting goes? Like what what's tripping your trigger? What's
driving you?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
So we kind of Uh for me, like I went
through a huge phase of writing these kind of songs
where was a little different.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I was attracted to everything that was, uh not what
I used to do anytime I'd pick up a guitar
and write some riffs. I'm like, but I feel like
now I've gone I've really kind of gone back to
a nostalgia feel. A lot of the stuff that I've
been writing is a lot more like the early theory
of de Man.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
That sounds even like our first, first or second record
that's more Southern rock and putting slide guitar back in
all those songs. But we're we're gonna go record some
songs in May. Like that's in one month, so we've
got a bunch of songs. Okay, we're ready to go.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah, you guys gotta go to the album Rot.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
You're gonna do the new thing of just releasing a
single every six weeks until there's enough four an album.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, we don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Like the big big change nowadays is the financial part.
I mean when you know, back when they would give
you hundreds of thousands of dollars to go make a record,
you were like, let's put a secret song in let's
do this six minute you know jazz odyssey.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Or you know, spinout tapp number.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
And then you realize that, like, well, every song you
record costs the same amount of money.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
So if you're going to record a B side, it
costs no one cares.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
You're still using studio, you're still staying somewhere and paying
for hotels and the mixing.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
So we're like, well, maybe we should just focus on
the best songs.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
So I mean, right now, we're going to record three songs,
and I think we're gonna go back in the phone
court three more and then we'll have half a record.
So by then we've got six songs, and we'll choose
which one is going to be lead the lead song,
and then I think we're gonna the timing is twenty
twenty six, have a new song.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Okay, we gotta wait that you're gonna make us wait
that long?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Come on? Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Well, the problem, honestly, the problem isn't not the materials done.
Is the problem is the the touring. We've toured so
much that we've I think we've rung that towel so
dry that I think our agent told us he's like,
you're ringing the tell pretty dry Tyler. I'm like, all right,
all right, we kind of got to go away a
little bit, which is tough for us to do. We
love to tour, so but it comes fast. It's already April,
(10:52):
so next thing, you know, in the summer. Yeah, and
then by summer we'll have, well, Laurie start thinking about
released time. It takes a long time to figure out
like release dates and then shoot music videos and then.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Putting it, putting a tour together.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Probably you mean there's all a business side of this.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
What there's Yeah, there's a sign that that is the
non fun side.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I like that we have all these people that take
care of that stuff, the logistical parts that we're like huh.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah. I like to I sometimes like to yell a
lot and say it's like, I don't know, how would
I know. I'm just a singer.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
That's why I like to say to people a lot,
the singer ends up knowing the least amount. What do
you mean?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, that's what they think. But I sometimes I like
to play dumb, but just so.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
You can, yeah, yeah, don't blame me, don't blame me.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I'm just a singer.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I'm just a singer. It's fine. Yeah, you guys have
played a lot, but that is your that is that
is the bread and butter. The theory of a dead
Man live show is always a fun thing to go see.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, we enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
And it's interesting because, uh, you know, we hear about
bands breaking up all the time or bands retiring, and
my first response is like, what are.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
They going to do? Like what do you do? Like,
I don't know, I don't have anything else.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
This is it.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
So this is kind of like I'm a lifer so
until I find something that I enjoy doing more than
performing live and touring, like, I don't know, but all
everyone in the band loves it.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
We have a great crew too. They all love love
coming out. Look at just calling me right now?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
This guy, why is he calling you right now?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
He knows you because I got I got another interview
and he's oh, They're like, where are you. I'm on
the interview. You just had your face on.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Geez.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I'm sorry. I can I can go forever. I can
go forever on these things. That's my problem because I
just like, I just like talking about music with music people.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
That's my thing.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
But okay, well then let's let's let's get some business
out of the way, uh, the rest of this year.
Then you're writing, you're you know, maybe talking about a
release in early twenty twenty six, and and it sounds
like some of the old stuff or is that's just
you're incorporating that and all these things coming together. Like
I'm just really curious, you know, you get to this
(13:08):
point now I tried all these different things.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
It's not really amalgamation. It really is does sound like
the writing.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I mean, I mean I started working on a song
yesterday and I'm like, gee, this is just fits. This
is so perfect with like something that would go with
scars and souvenirs or something from a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I don't know. I mean that's kind of where I
came from.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
But yeah, as you get older, it gets tougher, not
the songwriting, but trying to figure out, like.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
What do I write about? Like, you know, because usually
you write at it from a place of.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Arcissism from your drama, right, anxiety if I'm going through
a breakup or something. So for me to write a
breakup song now it's like, well, who'd you break up?
And it's like nobody, It's just the same person I'm
just reitering. I'm still having night about it. So it
becomes interesting about how do you write when you're like
fifty years old. It's like you have to just go
(14:05):
back and write about stuff because no one wants to
know about. Oh, what's the strife of Tyler today? Wow?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I had a bad round of golf? Can I write
about that?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I had to get bifocal. You got a bifocal record?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, I have to get readers. Now should I write
a song about that? Yeah? Exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Let me put on my readers and owner be able
to sing about this thing I want to sing about.
After all that and oh, readers came off? Hold on, yeah,
keep going.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Well, we do have this new song that's it's so good.
It's such a great song. I can't wait for people
to hear it. And the song is literally about what
it's like to be kind of a little bit older
and not want to go out and do stuff. It's
such a great song. I can't really talk too much
about it, but it is almost like the anti the
(14:54):
anti bar song.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
It's really good. I'm really excited.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
I'll tell you what, man, it's good to catch up
with you. You got other stuff, did you go do it.
This was more about just saying hello and seeing what
the world is like with Theory of a Dead Man
in twenty twenty five, and now we know the answer
to that.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
For the most part.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
You guys are working on new music and it should
be out in twenty twenty six, and you won't tour
until then.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
We got a bunch of summer dates, but they're festivals, right,
the one offs, one offs, one offs. Yeah, no tours,
but yeah, I'm assumed by fall we'll start putting that
together because it takes probably four or five months to
start booking that stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
But yeah, I would say early next year new music,
for sure.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Can't wait. Let's catch up again then, huh.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Yeah, for sure. Thanks man, all right, good to see it.
Good to see you as well. Tyler from Theory of
a Dead Man. Take care body see you man.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
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