May 2, 2025 • 31 mins
The band Dinosaur Pile-Up just announced a new album and released two new songs. After kicking down the door of mainstream rock with the 2019 album Celebrity Mansions, we haven't really heard much from the band. There's a good reason for that, lead singer Matt Bigland was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis, a digestive disease that wrecks your insides. Something I know a lot about as 15 years ago I found out that I had celiac disease, both are autoimmune diseases with similar outcomes, and they both suck. Matt ended up in the hospital for a bit, so his health needed to come first. Now though, he's better than ever, and the band is firing on all cylinders. Two new songs are out called "My Way and 'Bout to Lose It." They come off a new album called I've Felt Better, due out in August of 2025.
On a side note, I personally am a huge fan of this band, and I'm stoked to have this conversation.
On a side note, I personally am a huge fan of this band, and I'm stoked to have this conversation.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Attention please and no it cutters rock cast. Where are you?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm I'm in Green Bay, Wisconsin, or just south of
Green Bay, Wisconsin. The show that this will air on
airs nationally, but this is where I live.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
It's nice. So, yeah, I've been to I've been to
Wisconsin a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Nice. I don't think. I don't think you've been here though,
I don't remember correctly. Yeah, I'm in love with the
may too much that I would have seen you if
that happened.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, green Bay, maybe maybe not.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I saw you guys, I believe years ago at the
Rave in Milwaukee. I think, hmmm, correctly. But anyway, that's
neither here nor there. Dude, Matt from Dinosaur Pilop, thank you.
It's good to see. It's good to meet you.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Yeah, dude, you too.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Thanks for having me of course anytime. First of all, listen,
being at your English, I just got to make sure
with some of the new rules in place, there's no
tariff on us talking right, that's okay. I think that's
that's fine if I understand. I'm aware.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I'm as far as I'm aware.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
It's still okay, okay, good. It is changing every day there,
I just want to say this to get into this conversation.
Ever since Celebrity Mansions came out, if I need a
fire up there, for whatever reason, my brain has automatically
gone not to one of the singles, but to the
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song heavy Metal Cassette. That's the song like that. If
I need something to just I'm gone to the gym.
I've gotta clean, I got whatever. It's like, I don't
know what to listen to. Let me turn on heavy
Metal Cassette and then I'll figure it out from there.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that should have been one of the singles.
Should it should have been one of the singlesh Metal Cassette. Yeah,
it's a that's a killer you man.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I love that song fantas. I don't know if it
reminds me of driving my eighty six Mercury Links about
fifteen years past its prime with the set player in
it and listening. I don't know what it is, man,
but that just gets me every single time. You guys
had a lot of success with that album, though we did.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, it was it was a It was a really
positive moment for us as a band. It was kind
of a shame the timing of it. I never really
realized how bad the timing of it was with everything
kind of touring wise, shutting down with COVID and stuff.
Because really, when I think about it, that album came
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out in July or June or July twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Week.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, we came off the road December. We finished in
Canada with Offspring and Some forty one in December of
that year, and then that was it and then we
were kind of out. So really we only kind of
got six months of touring five six months of touring
off that record, which is a shame because because it
really it connected real well. So it was a super
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positive moment for us.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
It was awesome, it did. Yeah, I guess I didn't
think about that that you only got to tour, you know, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Mean Nia, I only kind of like really thought about
that recently. I was like, damn, Like we only got
like six months touring from that record. That was kind
of a shame, but you know, we'll be back.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
You better be of course. Prior to that, like, this
is the song that I found Dennis or pile up
was eleven eleven?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Nice?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Right, Yeah, that song started popping up on stuff and
I don't remember why I was just like, I don't
know what this song is, but I like this band.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, so yeah, I feel like that was eleven eleven
was the first time we kind of really sort of
started to break into the American market properly and like
properly develop a fan base and the US and get.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Like American airplay. You know that. I think eleven eleven was.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Our first sort of shot at that, And then Celebrity
Connected pretty well too.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Absolutely well, Matt, it's been six years since Celebrity Mansions.
You guys just released a new single a few weeks ago,
called back to Lose It, And I know I follow
you on Instagram. I saw the story, and I know
there's been a couple other articles written about it. Krane
had one in the fact that you had some health issues. Yeah,
(04:16):
is that the main reason why there's been such this
pause in Dinosaur Pilot news and music.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, basically.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Obviously, obviously the COVID thing kind of stopped everyone in
their tracks for a couple of years. But during you know,
that doesn't really mean like it meant you had to
stop touring for a while, But I guess it didn't
mean you had to kind of go quiet as a band.
But during COVID I started to get really really unwell
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sort of twenty twenty, like straight off the road, But
like I said, we got back off the road December
twenty nineteen, and through twenty twenty, I started to kind
of get real sick. It'd actually begun in twenty eighteen
whilst I was touring, but in twenty twenty it really
it hit me pretty badly and I had to I
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was hospitalized for a while a couple of times in
twenty twenty one, and I just I just had to
kind of take a couple of years out because I
couldn't really get around it, you know, like you tried,
like with social media and stuff, and particularly in COVID times,
there was nothing else to do but beyond social media.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
But it's hard to kind of keep up.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
The pretense or whatever you would call it, of sort
of being good when you're not good, Like health will
just kind of not keep for six with that stuff,
you can't really hide from it. So yeah, I got
really really unwell, and I had to kind of just
take a couple of years out, and it's taken this
long for me to kind of get on my feet
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again and get the record finished. So it's definitely been
a more elongated pause than we would have liked, but
you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
So for anybody who doesn't know, you were diagnosed with
all sort of colitis, uh yeah, which, so I have
Celiac disease and they're in this kind of the same
family of diseases a little bit as far as digestive
issues and things like that. Yeah, So when I saw
your story, it was like, Okay, I get where this
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is going because when I was diagnosed in twenty ten,
it was sort of the same thing where I'm sick,
you're sick, you're sick or sick, and then I don't
know if you had to do this too, where you
went through a series of tests or they tested literally
everything that existed under the planet before.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
They follow Yeah, what was actually the cause?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Well that's the mystery of autoimmune diseases, right, because obviously
Celiac and lco colitis and Crohn's and rheumatory arthritis and
blah blah blah, like all of these are all of
these are autoimmune diseases which are massively on the rise.
I read a statistic, I listened to I listened to
a lot of podcasts and stuff about this now, and
(07:01):
I was listening to one couple weeks back that there's
a the percentage of increase in autoimmune diseases globally is
four between four and ten percent every year as a
global population, which means, if you go off that logic,
within ten years, the population of people on the planet
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that have autoimmune diseases could potentially have doubled from where
it is right now, which is kind of crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So yeah, it's kind of wild because we.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Don't know a whole lot about autoimmune diseases. Thus, like
you said, when you get diagnosed, you end up having
to do endless tests to try and figure out what
the hell it is. And that's sometimes almost the hardest
bit when you don't know what it is and you're
trying to go jump through all the hoops and being
not drowned from doctor to doctor and diagnosis to diagnosis
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and theory to theory, and it's so yes, it's horrible
because you're really sick, no one can tell you what
the hell it is, and everyone's sort of just like
shooting random ideas of what it might be, and it's like,
doesn't doesn't feel right. So yeah, that whole journey of discovery.
(08:16):
I'm sure with you too, like it took a long
time for me. I was originally diagnosed with Crohn's disease,
which apparently with with OCHS is quite a common diagnosis.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
So yeah, I was just it's funny you say that
because I was my wife's convinced I have IBS, because
even with you know, celiac is, I can be on
a perfect whole food, no issue diet and I'm still
not okay a lot of times, you know what I mean.
Not to get too technical or too but so I
(08:51):
was just reading, you know, a bunch of stuff about
IBS and ulster colitis. I had a doctor about a
year ago want to test me for that, and it
just came back negative then, but who knows. So yeah,
there's it's very similar as far as those two are
concerns crones and and all sort of colitis. But yeah, yeah,
the automne disease stuff is insane for me. It was,
(09:14):
you know, the the internet was the Internet, but it
wasn't the Internet. Now, I was Barnes and Noble. I
had a one year old child, and I was at
Barnes and Noble with my baby basically letting her play
with the stuffed animals and books and while I sat
there and read everything blind. You know, autoimmune diseases one disease,
because like when I was diagnosed, it was, hey, you
(09:34):
have a celia disease. Well, what's that? Well it means
your body has an intolerance to gluten and it can't
handle it. What's gluten? You know that stuff that's in everything?
That's that? My God? Right? Thanks, here's a number two nutritionist.
Good luck?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Right?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, damn man, like the depth of
the subject matter, when you saw digging into.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
The whole the world hole you go down?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
God, dude, Like, whoa they like that saying that That
podcast that I was listening to a lot of it
was about gluten because obviously there's many different types of gluten, yes,
and there's only it's only the weak type of certain
types that that you're intolerant to. But what's interesting humans
(10:23):
as a race, none of us are tolerant of that gluten.
It's just some people are even more sort of sensitive,
like yourself for instance, creating Celiac. Like none of us
are actually none of us can actually tolerate gluten fully.
It's it's just some of us can kind of handle
it a little bit better than others. But yeah, as
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soon as you start reading reading about it, like, I mean,
it must have been that must have been tough doing
it at Barns and Noble, like without a full fully.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Fledged internet to like jump into.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
But like, damn, it's just yeah, it's I spend a
lot of time now kind of listening to podcast reading
about it about health in general, diet in general, stress,
the effects of stress lifestyles, but particularly about sort of
autoimmune disease and diet and stuff, and it's just wild
(11:16):
how little we know about them now.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
And how much they're growing.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
It's wild to me that the same medical therapies today
are the same medical therapies that we've had since the
nineteen seventies, which is essentially steroids and biologics, which is wild.
Nothing has really changed. We just don't know enough about it.
And it's also wild. Like when I was diagnosed and
(11:43):
going through it, I was, like I said, first diagnosed
with crones then to U see exactly the same time,
my best friend was diagnosed with celiac and another friend
of mine was diagnosed with crones and had surgery like
I was going.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Through it so like too direct.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Friends of mine in my like close circle both also
developed an autoimmune.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Disease, and I was like, Wow, that's kind.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Of like, you know, that's the likelihood of that happening
is kind of wild. Just shows you how many people
since I've made the videos on Dinosaur and sort of
put it out there that I was sick, the amount
of messages I've had from people also saying, hey, I've
just been diagnosed with ART is crazy, Like the sheer
numbers of people getting diagnosed with auto interseases now and again,
(12:30):
all of them are like, I don't know what the
break's going on. I have no idea like what's happening,
and it's just kind of wild.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Now. Do you find that that sort of helped you,
you know, as far as finding the community of people
that also are dealing with the same thing you're dealing
with massively?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yeah, yeah, I never did. I never jumped onto, Like,
I don't have Facebook, I don't use Facebook at all,
but a lot of people told me that there's a
lot of forum Yeah, right, but a lot of people
told me there's a lot of forums on Facebook. There's reddits,
you know, there's a lot of communities online, a lot
of those I haven't really jumped into that much, but
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having direct contact with people like friends of mine that
also developed it, or like even strangers now I've sort
of given advice to and taken advice from, blah blah blah.
Just finding other people, finding the community of people that
are kind of going through the same thing is massively,
massively helpful, because when you're going through something like that,
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it feels incredibly isolating and incredibly you feel incredibly sort
of alone going through it. So talking to people directly
who are like, oh, yeah, I've had that exact experience,
or like I've gone through that myself, or I've done
that exact thing or whatever, I'm on this medication blah
blah blah, Like that's hugely helpful, massively massively beneficial. So, yeah,
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I benefited a lot from from my friend Will. He
has Crohn's. You know, I spent a lot of time
going through with him. But I've had like, since me
getting sick, I've had friends and friends and friends being like.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Oh, I know this guy Matt, He's got oslayers.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
And I've just had like random people hooked me up
with phone calls to like people that have just been
diagnosed and stuff, and I always say hey, because like
I know, I've been through that.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
You know, it's horrible. It's a really horrible experience.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
And when it goes real bad, like unfortunately minded for
a minute, and I was in hospital for months at
a time, that's tough. It's it was, you know, a
really rough experience, particularly in COVID when you couldn't have.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Visitors and no one could speak to anyone or anywhere.
It was wild.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I literally couldn't see anybody in a hospital ward.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
It was rough, tough experience. So like I'm always down
to I always you know, if I.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Can help people talking talking through the experience and stuff,
I think it's really worthwhile because I've benefited.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Off that myself.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
So as a as a creative person, yeah, you take
an experience like that and apply that to your craft,
apply that to what you do because obviously as a
writer you know music, books, art, poetry, whatever, you sort
of take it right. It's comedy, right, that's the big
one where you take trauma and then you have jokes
about it. Well, you know the same thing in music.
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So how do you how do then do you take
that and apply that back to your song. There's a
little anger going on, about to lose it.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
It feels like, oh, for sure, man, yeah, that's about
to lose it. I was really specific, so I wanted
that to be the first song to come out of
this new record because it felt like a very accurate
portrayal of my sort of the space that I was in,
you know, mentally over the last couple of years. So
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I was really adamant that that was the first track.
When it comes to writing and stuff, I had this
conversation recently.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
It's not like I wanted to.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
It's not like I wanted to write a really negative,
thumbed out album like I've been through some really rough
stuff and I'm going to write really depressing album about it.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
That's not really what the record is, and that's not
what I wanted to do.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Like I'm still I was still, I'm still you know,
I'm still myself. So I was still able to tap
into that those elements of like humor. I think you know,
some Dinosaur songs there is a straight there was a
kind of thread of humor through them, and I was
still able to tap into that. But what I sort
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of gained was another perspective that maybe I didn't have before,
a perspective of you know, having had having having gone
through some really rough life, like a rough.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Period of time.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
So the album sort of it didn't lose anything, It
sort of gained this other perspective that I was able
to write about and throw into songs, and like, you know,
there's a sort of apathy that I maybe didn't have before.
Like when you're completely strung out and like really really
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unwell and strung out in all these medications and and
your sort of lowest or one of your lowest points
at least you can there's there's a kind of like
screw it type of feeling you get, like, oh, well,
it can't get any worse than this right now. So
that's kind of a perspective that I maybe hadn't had before,
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and I think parts of this album have definitely taken
on that that character a little bit.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
So what is it about the song about to Lose
It then that you wanted to make sure was the
first song?
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Well, it's just like it's such a pent up song
and it's got so much The the intro particularly is
just like a really visceral you know.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
That's a heavy metal riff, man, there's no question.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a kick ass riff. And
like the intro is really intense, and I love that, And.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I was like, how does you know this is how
I've kind of felt for the last couple of years,
and I've been going through this whole thing, but no
one really has known about it. How do I want
the first thing that people here to feel? And I
came up with that intro, like I just wanted to
be to be the most ridiculously kind of intense beginning.
Like we haven't heard anything from from Matt for like
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five years, and then the first thing they hear is
this super super intense thing.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I just I really wanted to wanted it to have
that intense energy, and you know, in about to lose it,
Like I wrote a lot about stuff I was working through,
I guess in my head during those bad times, during
that time in hospital and stuff, and like you know,
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like kind of just revisiting themes of like being at
your absolute capacity physically and mentally, like being right on
the edge of what you can sort of handle and still.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Being there, like still staying in that.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Space because you have to because otherwise you'll either go
crazy or die. But like, it's hard to stay in
that space for a long time. And I kind of
felt like I had to be in that space for
quite you know, for too long when I was ill.
So I wrote about to Lose It, the verses about
to Lose it, about that being in that space.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
And what that was like.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
And I also like I have a hard time letting
people down and due to like especially the fans, like
Dinosaur fans, like canceling shows because I'm sick or whatever
like that, and I wrote, you know, the bridge of
the song.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Is about that. So I was kind of revisiting all this.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Stuff I was having to think about whilst I was
out of the game, and I wanted that to be
the first song that people hear on this new record
because I think I think it was.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Important to kind of catch people up to where to
where I was at.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
From a music standpoint. I mean, we talked about the riff.
It does kicky in the face as soon as you
hit play on it, but then you know there's that
there's that kind of poppular sounding chorus that's there. Yeah,
you've the band as a whole. Dinosaur pile up. Musically,
I feel like you guys have done a good job of, like,
you know, going back to even thrash Metal Cassette, it's like,
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you know, intense and screaming and and you know, crazy
guitar and all that drums, but it comes back. It
always comes back. There's always a catchiness to it. That's
something that's hard to really consciously think about, but you
guys tend to do it.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah, I do think that's I think it's really difficult
to like find that balance. I feel like I thought
I spent many years like kind of crafting my songwriting
about that point, Like I love heavy metal, but I
also love like a Weezer chorus, like a lot of
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a huge Weeza fan, you know, And it's like, yeah,
but you're right, you know, like I love thrash metal
and heavy metal, but how do I have that and
like the Weezer thing and and that that sort of
pop thing. And I spent a long time kind of
crafting that. And I feel like songs like lash Mark
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Certain About to Lose It a good examples of that.
Someone I saw some comment somewhere saying what the hell
was it? It was like Pantera and Weezer like a Baby,
and it was and it was about to lose it,
and I was like, that's awesome. That feels great because
that's kind of the vibe, like I really love Hiller
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flash metal, but I also love.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Bear of Early Hills. That's weird a lot, you know,
I love that stuff.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
So yeah, I just kind of wanted to mix that
vibe and also, like with other songs on the record
and previous other songs in Dinosaurs catalog, like Backfoot for instance,
or even the song Celebrity Mansions or stupid heavy Metal
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broken Hearted Loser.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Punk or I was just thinking about that song when
he said how much you love heavy metal and like,
oh yeah, stupid heavy metal, broken hearted loser punk. Yeah,
it seems like it seems like an anthem from when
I was seventeen years old, you.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Know, yeah, man, And they have that kind of element
of there's elements of like heavy metal there, there's elements
of like some old school hip hop stuff in there.
There's element there's like humor, humorous elements, and it's when
you start to get into like the realm of mixing
heavy metal, humor and hip hop, you can really easily
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write a terrible record, you know, so like you've got
to be so careful of getting that right and and
I feel like I really enjoy that challenge of like
finding the right balance, because it really is that's a
thin path to walk, and either side of it is
not good. And I spent a lot of time, like yeah,
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like finessing that, and I really love, like, I love
that challenge because there some of my you know, I
love a lot of music, but like they're some of
my favorite things. Heavy metal, trash, met osgool, hip hop,
that pop thing. You know, how do you mix all
of those into something that's kick ass? And it makes
me think of like makes me think back to like Beastie.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Boys fight for Your Right Oh yeah, oh my god,
so cool. And it's such a great mix of like
that fun are kind of old school hip hop.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
We're not taking this too seriously thing with like those
big heavy metal guitars, but it's somehow not heavy metal,
and it's like this amazing mix a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I'm so inspired. I love the boys like so much,
but that song.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Particularly is such a like such a huge inspiration for me,
or like old school un DMC and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I've gotten sidetracked here, but no, no.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
It's you know, even take a song like no c
tell Brooklyn right, you got Krrie King fr Slayer playing
the guitar on it.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
There you go totally like it's that kind of mix,
and you could so easily do that so wrong, like
you could, you could massively, you could screw that up
so easily, but they didn't.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
They just got it right on the nose and it's
and it's nailed.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
So yeah, I spent Like I feel like I've been
digging in a lot to like lots of different influences
on this record, but I'm still digging into, Like I
feel like that's my like one of my favorite things
is like mixing those elements that I love and I've
always loved that stuff since I was a kid, but
it's like I was never really I feel like it's
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taking me like twenty years to figure out how I
actually can like mix them all together and it doesn't suck.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
There does seem to be this thing about specifically English
alternative hard rock music. And I don't use the word
alternative as in like imagine dragons, but like just alternate,
just different in you know, between the dinosaur pile Up
and Biffy and you know, you know, Boston Manor, and
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it's like there's there's these artists that you guys seemed
to be able to live in that world a little
bit where it's like, hey, you like heavy metal, cool,
listen to this. You like Oasis, Okay, here, listen to this.
You know you love Theser, Okay, listen to this. You
know you love running listen to this. It's there does
seem to be this like I don't know what it
is about that area, but this like little pocket of artists. Yeah,
(26:09):
none of you sound the same, but yet you can
all hear sort of that similar kind of idea.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah, I don't know why that is, Like obviously I
know a lot of those bands names and stuff, and
it's I guess it's just what comes out through like
the time, or like I guess I wonder when everyone
was growing up and what they were listening to, whether
it's the same stuff or like similar stuff whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
But like even even with you know, the way like
a genre like metalcore has gone, you can you can
hear that you know, somebody who was listening to you know,
maybe Lamb of God or Pantera, But also we're listening
to Ludacris or yeah, there's these or Ministry, there's or
nine in Snails, there's electronic elements. You know, you can
(26:55):
sort of hear the influences of the of the timeframe
of all right, that person is probably forty two years
old and was listening to you know what I mean.
But yeah, no, But at the same time, it's there
are so many artists that have been able to create
these things all their own off of that, and you know,
Dinosaur pilots right up there.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, no, totally.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I mean that's like, that's a really good point with
the metal core stuff that's happening now and like that
electronic influence, particularly like Ministry as a reference like that. Yeah,
it's it's just super interesting how people carver out their
own stuff and they really and they form it into
their identity. And I think I think, I do think
I think Dinosaur has done that in its own way too.
(27:37):
Like obviously nothing like the metal core stuff, but you know,
when I think of when I think of like who's
who's doing that thing where it's like mixing heavy metal
and hip hop and blah blah blah and doing it
in the right way, and that kind of that nineties
guitar alternative rock thing like and I think Dinosaur's done
(27:59):
a we ended up in a really cool place where
it's like, oh yeah, that's like it's kind of recognizable,
and that's that's our thing, you know. And I often
wonder like whetherther like I was thinking about the humor
element of Dinosaurs or at least some of the songs. Recently,
we have a single coming up really soon that's I
(28:21):
guess it's kind of humorous.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Maybe that's why I'm thinking about it so much.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
But I was like, as I come from, like I
was obsessed with Presidents the United States debut album. I
don't know that record, Oh my god. I still listen
to it, like the peaches and Lump and all of that.
Me and my wife k Like, we literally as soon
as we get in the car, we played that same.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Records every trip. That was such a good record.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I've been listening to it for like thirty years now,
speaking of it, I totally had that on cassette tape
listening aforementioned Mercury Links.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah, I love that record and it's you know, it's
got such a humorous side to it.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Same with like Eminem, you know, like I love Eminem
and a lot.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Of those influences like creep through sometimes, you know, just interesting,
interesting how it all comes out.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
What about the rest of the year for twenty twenty
five for Dinosaur, pile up, touring all that.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah, So.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
So we have a UK headline tour in September, we
don't have loads, we have the UK tour. I think
twenty twenty six is going to be the more touring
heavy and especially in getting getting out of the US
and stuff like that and getting into festivals and stuff.
So I think this year is just going to be
like UK headline run, get the record out, yeah, and
(29:51):
like just kind of concentrate on sort of getting everything real,
like getting everything going again, because obviously I sort of
stepped out for.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
So long, right, I mean, get I got to get
those legs back under yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yeah, right exactly.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
And aside from that, like I'm doing a lot of
touring with my wife Karen. She's she's kind of picking
up right now and doing a bunch of touring. So
I'm out with her, like helping helping her out with that.
So the quietness of Dinosaur is okay, We've got that
September run and aside from that and kind of doing
everything online with Dinosaur and helping k out with her
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touring and stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Fantastic. Your wife is she's solo?
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I don't know, Karen, Yeah right, right right. We literally
just go back like two days ago or something from
she was out with limb Biscuit. We're out with limb
Biscuit for a month, which just super fun. Like I
love limb Biscuits.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
So that was that was a trip. So I was
helping her out with that, which was was good fun.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Fred Durst on this tour was that his actual hair.
Is he wearing a wig because it's hard to tast
it moves really well, you know, like it's well done.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a wig. But it's a good.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Matt Bigland from Dinosaur Pile Up about to lose its
available now new record later this year and we'll look
for more coming in the future. When you guys get
over the States. Let's do this again.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Hell yeah, sounds good.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
All right, Thank you so much, my friend. I appreciate it,
and good luck with everything.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Thanks so much. I appreciate it. Thanks for having me.
Cutter's Rock Cast. Don't get to tune in exactly
Attention please and no it cutters rock cast. Where are you?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm I'm in Green Bay, Wisconsin, or just south of
Green Bay, Wisconsin. The show that this will air on
airs nationally, but this is where I live.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
It's nice. So, yeah, I've been to I've been to
Wisconsin a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Nice. I don't think. I don't think you've been here though,
I don't remember correctly. Yeah, I'm in love with the
may too much that I would have seen you if
that happened.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, green Bay, maybe maybe not.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I saw you guys, I believe years ago at the
Rave in Milwaukee. I think, hmmm, correctly. But anyway, that's
neither here nor there. Dude, Matt from Dinosaur Pilop, thank you.
It's good to see. It's good to meet you.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Yeah, dude, you too.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Thanks for having me of course anytime. First of all, listen,
being at your English, I just got to make sure
with some of the new rules in place, there's no
tariff on us talking right, that's okay. I think that's
that's fine if I understand. I'm aware.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I'm as far as I'm aware.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
It's still okay, okay, good. It is changing every day there,
I just want to say this to get into this conversation.
Ever since Celebrity Mansions came out, if I need a
fire up there, for whatever reason, my brain has automatically
gone not to one of the singles, but to the
(01:29):
song heavy Metal Cassette. That's the song like that. If
I need something to just I'm gone to the gym.
I've gotta clean, I got whatever. It's like, I don't
know what to listen to. Let me turn on heavy
Metal Cassette and then I'll figure it out from there.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that should have been one of the singles.
Should it should have been one of the singlesh Metal Cassette. Yeah,
it's a that's a killer you man.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
I love that song fantas. I don't know if it
reminds me of driving my eighty six Mercury Links about
fifteen years past its prime with the set player in
it and listening. I don't know what it is, man,
but that just gets me every single time. You guys
had a lot of success with that album, though we did.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, it was it was a It was a really
positive moment for us as a band. It was kind
of a shame the timing of it. I never really
realized how bad the timing of it was with everything
kind of touring wise, shutting down with COVID and stuff.
Because really, when I think about it, that album came
(02:29):
out in July or June or July twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Week.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, we came off the road December. We finished in
Canada with Offspring and Some forty one in December of
that year, and then that was it and then we
were kind of out. So really we only kind of
got six months of touring five six months of touring
off that record, which is a shame because because it
really it connected real well. So it was a super
(03:00):
positive moment for us.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
It was awesome, it did. Yeah, I guess I didn't
think about that that you only got to tour, you know, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Mean Nia, I only kind of like really thought about
that recently. I was like, damn, Like we only got
like six months touring from that record. That was kind
of a shame, but you know, we'll be back.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
You better be of course. Prior to that, like, this
is the song that I found Dennis or pile up
was eleven eleven?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Nice?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Right, Yeah, that song started popping up on stuff and
I don't remember why I was just like, I don't
know what this song is, but I like this band.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, so yeah, I feel like that was eleven eleven
was the first time we kind of really sort of
started to break into the American market properly and like
properly develop a fan base and the US and get.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Like American airplay. You know that. I think eleven eleven was.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Our first sort of shot at that, And then Celebrity
Connected pretty well too.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Absolutely well, Matt, it's been six years since Celebrity Mansions.
You guys just released a new single a few weeks ago,
called back to Lose It, And I know I follow
you on Instagram. I saw the story, and I know
there's been a couple other articles written about it. Krane
had one in the fact that you had some health issues. Yeah,
(04:16):
is that the main reason why there's been such this
pause in Dinosaur Pilot news and music.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, basically.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Obviously, obviously the COVID thing kind of stopped everyone in
their tracks for a couple of years. But during you know,
that doesn't really mean like it meant you had to
stop touring for a while, But I guess it didn't
mean you had to kind of go quiet as a band.
But during COVID I started to get really really unwell
(04:48):
sort of twenty twenty, like straight off the road, But
like I said, we got back off the road December
twenty nineteen, and through twenty twenty, I started to kind
of get real sick. It'd actually begun in twenty eighteen
whilst I was touring, but in twenty twenty it really
it hit me pretty badly and I had to I
(05:08):
was hospitalized for a while a couple of times in
twenty twenty one, and I just I just had to
kind of take a couple of years out because I
couldn't really get around it, you know, like you tried,
like with social media and stuff, and particularly in COVID times,
there was nothing else to do but beyond social media.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
But it's hard to kind of keep up.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
The pretense or whatever you would call it, of sort
of being good when you're not good, Like health will
just kind of not keep for six with that stuff,
you can't really hide from it. So yeah, I got
really really unwell, and I had to kind of just
take a couple of years out, and it's taken this
long for me to kind of get on my feet
(05:51):
again and get the record finished. So it's definitely been
a more elongated pause than we would have liked, but
you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
So for anybody who doesn't know, you were diagnosed with
all sort of colitis, uh yeah, which, so I have
Celiac disease and they're in this kind of the same
family of diseases a little bit as far as digestive
issues and things like that. Yeah, So when I saw
your story, it was like, Okay, I get where this
(06:22):
is going because when I was diagnosed in twenty ten,
it was sort of the same thing where I'm sick,
you're sick, you're sick or sick, and then I don't
know if you had to do this too, where you
went through a series of tests or they tested literally
everything that existed under the planet before.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
They follow Yeah, what was actually the cause?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Well that's the mystery of autoimmune diseases, right, because obviously
Celiac and lco colitis and Crohn's and rheumatory arthritis and
blah blah blah, like all of these are all of
these are autoimmune diseases which are massively on the rise.
I read a statistic, I listened to I listened to
a lot of podcasts and stuff about this now, and
(07:01):
I was listening to one couple weeks back that there's
a the percentage of increase in autoimmune diseases globally is
four between four and ten percent every year as a
global population, which means, if you go off that logic,
within ten years, the population of people on the planet
(07:23):
that have autoimmune diseases could potentially have doubled from where
it is right now, which is kind of crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So yeah, it's kind of wild because we.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Don't know a whole lot about autoimmune diseases. Thus, like
you said, when you get diagnosed, you end up having
to do endless tests to try and figure out what
the hell it is. And that's sometimes almost the hardest
bit when you don't know what it is and you're
trying to go jump through all the hoops and being
not drowned from doctor to doctor and diagnosis to diagnosis
(07:55):
and theory to theory, and it's so yes, it's horrible
because you're really sick, no one can tell you what
the hell it is, and everyone's sort of just like
shooting random ideas of what it might be, and it's like,
doesn't doesn't feel right. So yeah, that whole journey of discovery.
(08:16):
I'm sure with you too, like it took a long
time for me. I was originally diagnosed with Crohn's disease,
which apparently with with OCHS is quite a common diagnosis.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
So yeah, I was just it's funny you say that
because I was my wife's convinced I have IBS, because
even with you know, celiac is, I can be on
a perfect whole food, no issue diet and I'm still
not okay a lot of times, you know what I mean.
Not to get too technical or too but so I
(08:51):
was just reading, you know, a bunch of stuff about
IBS and ulster colitis. I had a doctor about a
year ago want to test me for that, and it
just came back negative then, but who knows. So yeah,
there's it's very similar as far as those two are
concerns crones and and all sort of colitis. But yeah, yeah,
the automne disease stuff is insane for me. It was,
(09:14):
you know, the the internet was the Internet, but it
wasn't the Internet. Now, I was Barnes and Noble. I
had a one year old child, and I was at
Barnes and Noble with my baby basically letting her play
with the stuffed animals and books and while I sat
there and read everything blind. You know, autoimmune diseases one disease,
because like when I was diagnosed, it was, hey, you
(09:34):
have a celia disease. Well, what's that? Well it means
your body has an intolerance to gluten and it can't
handle it. What's gluten? You know that stuff that's in everything?
That's that? My God? Right? Thanks, here's a number two nutritionist.
Good luck?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Right?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, damn man, like the depth of
the subject matter, when you saw digging into.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
The whole the world hole you go down?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
God, dude, Like, whoa they like that saying that That
podcast that I was listening to a lot of it
was about gluten because obviously there's many different types of gluten, yes,
and there's only it's only the weak type of certain
types that that you're intolerant to. But what's interesting humans
(10:23):
as a race, none of us are tolerant of that gluten.
It's just some people are even more sort of sensitive,
like yourself for instance, creating Celiac. Like none of us
are actually none of us can actually tolerate gluten fully.
It's it's just some of us can kind of handle
it a little bit better than others. But yeah, as
(10:43):
soon as you start reading reading about it, like, I mean,
it must have been that must have been tough doing
it at Barns and Noble, like without a full fully.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Fledged internet to like jump into.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
But like, damn, it's just yeah, it's I spend a
lot of time now kind of listening to podcast reading
about it about health in general, diet in general, stress,
the effects of stress lifestyles, but particularly about sort of
autoimmune disease and diet and stuff, and it's just wild
(11:16):
how little we know about them now.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
And how much they're growing.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
It's wild to me that the same medical therapies today
are the same medical therapies that we've had since the
nineteen seventies, which is essentially steroids and biologics, which is wild.
Nothing has really changed. We just don't know enough about it.
And it's also wild. Like when I was diagnosed and
(11:43):
going through it, I was, like I said, first diagnosed
with crones then to U see exactly the same time,
my best friend was diagnosed with celiac and another friend
of mine was diagnosed with crones and had surgery like
I was going.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Through it so like too direct.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Friends of mine in my like close circle both also
developed an autoimmune.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Disease, and I was like, Wow, that's kind.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Of like, you know, that's the likelihood of that happening
is kind of wild. Just shows you how many people
since I've made the videos on Dinosaur and sort of
put it out there that I was sick, the amount
of messages I've had from people also saying, hey, I've
just been diagnosed with ART is crazy, Like the sheer
numbers of people getting diagnosed with auto interseases now and again,
(12:30):
all of them are like, I don't know what the
break's going on. I have no idea like what's happening,
and it's just kind of wild.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Now. Do you find that that sort of helped you,
you know, as far as finding the community of people
that also are dealing with the same thing you're dealing
with massively?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yeah, yeah, I never did. I never jumped onto, Like,
I don't have Facebook, I don't use Facebook at all,
but a lot of people told me that there's a
lot of forum Yeah, right, but a lot of people
told me there's a lot of forums on Facebook. There's reddits,
you know, there's a lot of communities online, a lot
of those I haven't really jumped into that much, but
(13:09):
having direct contact with people like friends of mine that
also developed it, or like even strangers now I've sort
of given advice to and taken advice from, blah blah blah.
Just finding other people, finding the community of people that
are kind of going through the same thing is massively,
massively helpful, because when you're going through something like that,
(13:30):
it feels incredibly isolating and incredibly you feel incredibly sort
of alone going through it. So talking to people directly
who are like, oh, yeah, I've had that exact experience,
or like I've gone through that myself, or I've done
that exact thing or whatever, I'm on this medication blah
blah blah, Like that's hugely helpful, massively massively beneficial. So, yeah,
(13:57):
I benefited a lot from from my friend Will. He
has Crohn's. You know, I spent a lot of time
going through with him. But I've had like, since me
getting sick, I've had friends and friends and friends being like.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Oh, I know this guy Matt, He's got oslayers.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
And I've just had like random people hooked me up
with phone calls to like people that have just been
diagnosed and stuff, and I always say hey, because like
I know, I've been through that.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
You know, it's horrible. It's a really horrible experience.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
And when it goes real bad, like unfortunately minded for
a minute, and I was in hospital for months at
a time, that's tough. It's it was, you know, a
really rough experience, particularly in COVID when you couldn't have.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Visitors and no one could speak to anyone or anywhere.
It was wild.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I literally couldn't see anybody in a hospital ward.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
It was rough, tough experience. So like I'm always down
to I always you know, if I.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Can help people talking talking through the experience and stuff,
I think it's really worthwhile because I've benefited.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Off that myself.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
So as a as a creative person, yeah, you take
an experience like that and apply that to your craft,
apply that to what you do because obviously as a
writer you know music, books, art, poetry, whatever, you sort
of take it right. It's comedy, right, that's the big
one where you take trauma and then you have jokes
about it. Well, you know the same thing in music.
(15:25):
So how do you how do then do you take
that and apply that back to your song. There's a
little anger going on, about to lose it.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
It feels like, oh, for sure, man, yeah, that's about
to lose it. I was really specific, so I wanted
that to be the first song to come out of
this new record because it felt like a very accurate
portrayal of my sort of the space that I was in,
you know, mentally over the last couple of years. So
(15:54):
I was really adamant that that was the first track.
When it comes to writing and stuff, I had this
conversation recently.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
It's not like I wanted to.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
It's not like I wanted to write a really negative,
thumbed out album like I've been through some really rough
stuff and I'm going to write really depressing album about it.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
That's not really what the record is, and that's not
what I wanted to do.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Like I'm still I was still, I'm still you know,
I'm still myself. So I was still able to tap
into that those elements of like humor. I think you know,
some Dinosaur songs there is a straight there was a
kind of thread of humor through them, and I was
still able to tap into that. But what I sort
(16:47):
of gained was another perspective that maybe I didn't have before,
a perspective of you know, having had having having gone
through some really rough life, like a rough.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Period of time.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
So the album sort of it didn't lose anything, It
sort of gained this other perspective that I was able
to write about and throw into songs, and like, you know,
there's a sort of apathy that I maybe didn't have before.
Like when you're completely strung out and like really really
(17:22):
unwell and strung out in all these medications and and
your sort of lowest or one of your lowest points
at least you can there's there's a kind of like
screw it type of feeling you get, like, oh, well,
it can't get any worse than this right now. So
that's kind of a perspective that I maybe hadn't had before,
(17:43):
and I think parts of this album have definitely taken
on that that character a little bit.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
So what is it about the song about to Lose
It then that you wanted to make sure was the
first song?
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Well, it's just like it's such a pent up song
and it's got so much The the intro particularly is
just like a really visceral you know.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
That's a heavy metal riff, man, there's no question.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a kick ass riff. And
like the intro is really intense, and I love that, And.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I was like, how does you know this is how
I've kind of felt for the last couple of years,
and I've been going through this whole thing, but no
one really has known about it. How do I want
the first thing that people here to feel? And I
came up with that intro, like I just wanted to
be to be the most ridiculously kind of intense beginning.
Like we haven't heard anything from from Matt for like
(18:43):
five years, and then the first thing they hear is
this super super intense thing.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I just I really wanted to wanted it to have
that intense energy, and you know, in about to lose it,
Like I wrote a lot about stuff I was working through,
I guess in my head during those bad times, during
that time in hospital and stuff, and like you know,
(19:13):
like kind of just revisiting themes of like being at
your absolute capacity physically and mentally, like being right on
the edge of what you can sort of handle and still.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Being there, like still staying in that.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Space because you have to because otherwise you'll either go
crazy or die. But like, it's hard to stay in
that space for a long time. And I kind of
felt like I had to be in that space for
quite you know, for too long when I was ill.
So I wrote about to Lose It, the verses about
to Lose it, about that being in that space.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
And what that was like.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
And I also like I have a hard time letting
people down and due to like especially the fans, like
Dinosaur fans, like canceling shows because I'm sick or whatever
like that, and I wrote, you know, the bridge of
the song.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Is about that. So I was kind of revisiting all this.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Stuff I was having to think about whilst I was
out of the game, and I wanted that to be
the first song that people hear on this new record
because I think I think it was.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Important to kind of catch people up to where to
where I was at.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
From a music standpoint. I mean, we talked about the riff.
It does kicky in the face as soon as you
hit play on it, but then you know there's that
there's that kind of poppular sounding chorus that's there. Yeah,
you've the band as a whole. Dinosaur pile up. Musically,
I feel like you guys have done a good job of, like,
you know, going back to even thrash Metal Cassette, it's like,
(20:41):
you know, intense and screaming and and you know, crazy
guitar and all that drums, but it comes back. It
always comes back. There's always a catchiness to it. That's
something that's hard to really consciously think about, but you
guys tend to do it.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah, I do think that's I think it's really difficult
to like find that balance. I feel like I thought
I spent many years like kind of crafting my songwriting
about that point, Like I love heavy metal, but I
also love like a Weezer chorus, like a lot of
(21:19):
a huge Weeza fan, you know, And it's like, yeah,
but you're right, you know, like I love thrash metal
and heavy metal, but how do I have that and
like the Weezer thing and and that that sort of
pop thing. And I spent a long time kind of
crafting that. And I feel like songs like lash Mark
(21:42):
Certain About to Lose It a good examples of that.
Someone I saw some comment somewhere saying what the hell
was it? It was like Pantera and Weezer like a Baby,
and it was and it was about to lose it,
and I was like, that's awesome. That feels great because
that's kind of the vibe, like I really love Hiller
(22:04):
flash metal, but I also love.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Bear of Early Hills. That's weird a lot, you know,
I love that stuff.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
So yeah, I just kind of wanted to mix that
vibe and also, like with other songs on the record
and previous other songs in Dinosaurs catalog, like Backfoot for instance,
or even the song Celebrity Mansions or stupid heavy Metal
(22:33):
broken Hearted Loser.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Punk or I was just thinking about that song when
he said how much you love heavy metal and like,
oh yeah, stupid heavy metal, broken hearted loser punk. Yeah,
it seems like it seems like an anthem from when
I was seventeen years old, you.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Know, yeah, man, And they have that kind of element
of there's elements of like heavy metal there, there's elements
of like some old school hip hop stuff in there.
There's element there's like humor, humorous elements, and it's when
you start to get into like the realm of mixing
heavy metal, humor and hip hop, you can really easily
(23:08):
write a terrible record, you know, so like you've got
to be so careful of getting that right and and
I feel like I really enjoy that challenge of like
finding the right balance, because it really is that's a
thin path to walk, and either side of it is
not good. And I spent a lot of time, like yeah,
(23:32):
like finessing that, and I really love, like, I love
that challenge because there some of my you know, I
love a lot of music, but like they're some of
my favorite things. Heavy metal, trash, met osgool, hip hop,
that pop thing. You know, how do you mix all
of those into something that's kick ass? And it makes
me think of like makes me think back to like Beastie.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Boys fight for Your Right Oh yeah, oh my god,
so cool. And it's such a great mix of like
that fun are kind of old school hip hop.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
We're not taking this too seriously thing with like those
big heavy metal guitars, but it's somehow not heavy metal,
and it's like this amazing mix a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I'm so inspired. I love the boys like so much,
but that song.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Particularly is such a like such a huge inspiration for me,
or like old school un DMC and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I've gotten sidetracked here, but no, no.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
It's you know, even take a song like no c
tell Brooklyn right, you got Krrie King fr Slayer playing
the guitar on it.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
There you go totally like it's that kind of mix,
and you could so easily do that so wrong, like
you could, you could massively, you could screw that up
so easily, but they didn't.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
They just got it right on the nose and it's
and it's nailed.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
So yeah, I spent Like I feel like I've been
digging in a lot to like lots of different influences
on this record, but I'm still digging into, Like I
feel like that's my like one of my favorite things
is like mixing those elements that I love and I've
always loved that stuff since I was a kid, but
it's like I was never really I feel like it's
(25:17):
taking me like twenty years to figure out how I
actually can like mix them all together and it doesn't suck.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
There does seem to be this thing about specifically English
alternative hard rock music. And I don't use the word
alternative as in like imagine dragons, but like just alternate,
just different in you know, between the dinosaur pile Up
and Biffy and you know, you know, Boston Manor, and
(25:45):
it's like there's there's these artists that you guys seemed
to be able to live in that world a little
bit where it's like, hey, you like heavy metal, cool,
listen to this. You like Oasis, Okay, here, listen to this.
You know you love Theser, Okay, listen to this. You
know you love running listen to this. It's there does
seem to be this like I don't know what it
is about that area, but this like little pocket of artists. Yeah,
(26:09):
none of you sound the same, but yet you can
all hear sort of that similar kind of idea.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah, I don't know why that is, Like obviously I
know a lot of those bands names and stuff, and
it's I guess it's just what comes out through like
the time, or like I guess I wonder when everyone
was growing up and what they were listening to, whether
it's the same stuff or like similar stuff whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
But like even even with you know, the way like
a genre like metalcore has gone, you can you can
hear that you know, somebody who was listening to you know,
maybe Lamb of God or Pantera, But also we're listening
to Ludacris or yeah, there's these or Ministry, there's or
nine in Snails, there's electronic elements. You know, you can
(26:55):
sort of hear the influences of the of the timeframe
of all right, that person is probably forty two years
old and was listening to you know what I mean.
But yeah, no, But at the same time, it's there
are so many artists that have been able to create
these things all their own off of that, and you know,
Dinosaur pilots right up there.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, no, totally.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I mean that's like, that's a really good point with
the metal core stuff that's happening now and like that
electronic influence, particularly like Ministry as a reference like that. Yeah,
it's it's just super interesting how people carver out their
own stuff and they really and they form it into
their identity. And I think I think, I do think
I think Dinosaur has done that in its own way too.
(27:37):
Like obviously nothing like the metal core stuff, but you know,
when I think of when I think of like who's
who's doing that thing where it's like mixing heavy metal
and hip hop and blah blah blah and doing it
in the right way, and that kind of that nineties
guitar alternative rock thing like and I think Dinosaur's done
(27:59):
a we ended up in a really cool place where
it's like, oh yeah, that's like it's kind of recognizable,
and that's that's our thing, you know. And I often
wonder like whetherther like I was thinking about the humor
element of Dinosaurs or at least some of the songs. Recently,
we have a single coming up really soon that's I
(28:21):
guess it's kind of humorous.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Maybe that's why I'm thinking about it so much.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
But I was like, as I come from, like I
was obsessed with Presidents the United States debut album. I
don't know that record, Oh my god. I still listen
to it, like the peaches and Lump and all of that.
Me and my wife k Like, we literally as soon
as we get in the car, we played that same.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Records every trip. That was such a good record.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I've been listening to it for like thirty years now,
speaking of it, I totally had that on cassette tape
listening aforementioned Mercury Links.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah, I love that record and it's you know, it's
got such a humorous side to it.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Same with like Eminem, you know, like I love Eminem
and a lot.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Of those influences like creep through sometimes, you know, just interesting,
interesting how it all comes out.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
What about the rest of the year for twenty twenty
five for Dinosaur, pile up, touring all that.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah, So.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
So we have a UK headline tour in September, we
don't have loads, we have the UK tour. I think
twenty twenty six is going to be the more touring
heavy and especially in getting getting out of the US
and stuff like that and getting into festivals and stuff.
So I think this year is just going to be
like UK headline run, get the record out, yeah, and
(29:51):
like just kind of concentrate on sort of getting everything real,
like getting everything going again, because obviously I sort of
stepped out for.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
So long, right, I mean, get I got to get
those legs back under yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yeah, right exactly.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
And aside from that, like I'm doing a lot of
touring with my wife Karen. She's she's kind of picking
up right now and doing a bunch of touring. So
I'm out with her, like helping helping her out with that.
So the quietness of Dinosaur is okay, We've got that
September run and aside from that and kind of doing
everything online with Dinosaur and helping k out with her
(30:30):
touring and stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Fantastic. Your wife is she's solo?
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I don't know, Karen, Yeah right, right right. We literally
just go back like two days ago or something from
she was out with limb Biscuit. We're out with limb
Biscuit for a month, which just super fun. Like I
love limb Biscuits.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
So that was that was a trip. So I was
helping her out with that, which was was good fun.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Fred Durst on this tour was that his actual hair.
Is he wearing a wig because it's hard to tast
it moves really well, you know, like it's well done.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a wig. But it's a good.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Matt Bigland from Dinosaur Pile Up about to lose its
available now new record later this year and we'll look
for more coming in the future. When you guys get
over the States. Let's do this again.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Hell yeah, sounds good.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
All right, Thank you so much, my friend. I appreciate it,
and good luck with everything.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Thanks so much. I appreciate it. Thanks for having me.
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