May 9, 2025 • 26 mins
After 11 studio albums, you might think a band is starting to get meh, but that is definitely not the case with Architects. Their latest offering, The Sky, The Earth & All Between, sees the band exploring their sound in a way that just works. Produced by former Bring Me The Horizon keyboardist and songwriter Jordan Fish, the sounds are all there. From the pummelling to the melodic, this band isn't showing any signs of slowing down. They're headlining festivals, they went on tour with Metallica, and if their latest single "Everything Ends" keeps going, they might have one of their biggest hits in the band's long history on their hands.
Lead singer Sam Carter joined me from his home in London the day before the NFL Draft so we even get a little sports talk in on this conversation, and gardening too! Wormhole, activated.
See Architects on tour in the U.S. this summer.
Lead singer Sam Carter joined me from his home in London the day before the NFL Draft so we even get a little sports talk in on this conversation, and gardening too! Wormhole, activated.
See Architects on tour in the U.S. this summer.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Attention please and no it cutters rock cast. I have
been doing these interviews.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I just had I just had a minute and I
was like, oh, I've got ten minutes till my next
in view. And then I looked at it and I
was like, oh my god, I'm like twenty minutes late.
So I apologize. I'm so sorry and take it. We
can do whatever as long as whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
No, dude, you're all good. Like I just told your
your repid apitaph records, and like I've been that guy
who's gone super long on interviews and pushed the whole
schedule back. So like when they get scheduled now, like
for today, I'm like, can I be at the end
just yeah, just in case.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Then you can, just just in.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Case we start going down a wormhole weird shit. I
just want to make sure we're good. But yeah, we can.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Go down the wormhole. Bro, I've just been down it
many times.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
You're fine, man. I'm just I'm over here dealing with
the the chaos of the NFL draft. So this is
like the calm before the storm day today before I
have to go live there for three days. Yeah, so
tomorrow I've got to be there Packers, Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Oh cool, yeah, yeah, great team?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Hell yeah, thank you. How do you do? Okay? Being English?
How do you feel about American football? Like basically invading?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I don't know, you know, I don't know enough about it,
but every time I watch it, like this is sick.
Obviously we hear a bit more about it, I think
over the last few years.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
But yeah, I think it's cool. It's cool. I mean,
rugby is like so big in the UK.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Oh yeah, but yeah, I think I probably enjoy American
football more than rugby if I'm honest.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, okay, me too, really big for reasons, a big guy.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
But American football was just cooler. We've got bad teams.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Well, grow growing up growing up in Green Bay, in
minutes away from Lambell Field, that's sort.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Of that, like you had no choice, right you're born exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, small town, you know, that's just what we did. Football.
It was church and football. That was it. I get
to church.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
We just had we had soccer and like Manchester United
probably my yeah love ever and they bring me complete sadness.
Now throughout every sort of couple of weeks, there's a
point where I'm happy again, and there's point where I'm sad.
But it's uh, it is what it is. It's what
you're born into, isn't It's it's your love.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I've been making this suggestion and I might bring it
up again this week while we're broadcasting from the draft
that we need to inc the NFL needs to hook
up at the UFL or even college and incorporate the
rules of the tiers that happens in European football as
far as if you're the worst team, you're going to
(02:35):
the other league, buddy, you know, And if you're the
best team in that league, you're going up. I'm like, ah,
how cool would that be?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
It's so cool, man.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
It just gives people something to fight for, and I think,
actually it's yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
It makes it like, you know, live or die. It's awesome.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, exactly. All right. Sam Carter, lead singer of the
band Architects joining us, Dude, it's a pleasure to see
you again, and thank you so much for taking the time.
I greatly appreciate it. It's an easy question, the first one.
With eleven studio albums, how do you continue to sound
that good?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I have no idea. Hard work, a lot of hard work.
I appreciate it. Thank you so much, of course. Yeah,
it's hard work, and I think just sticking at it
and just not settling for just okay.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I think it's just you know, I think, especially with
this one, I felt like it was time to really, yeah,
just step up to another level. I always try and
do the best I can, but I think, yeah, this
one felt super focused and yeah, I just really wanted
to give it the best I have and I felt like, yeah,
we've done that, so I'm really proud of it.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Well, The Sky the Earth in the Between is a
course available now. Architects eleven studio album. When you're listening
to this again, it's the Architects for so long. We're
so heavy. I mean, you guys were so brutally heavy
but yet so technical with your music. I can still
hear that, but it almost feels like, incorrectly if I'm wrong,
(04:03):
like you're almost living in the spaces a little bit more,
letting things breathe maybe instead of just the continuous pummeling.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, I think it's not just like smacking people in
the face for four minutes, so I think, you know,
building up to that part of smacking them in the face. Yeah,
And yeah, like living in. Yeah, living in those moments,
and when you do something that's super heavy like black Hole,
I think it counts for more because it's you know,
you're not just living in that world. I think we've
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always been one of those bands that's experimented and I'm
done different things. But I think, yeah, and now it
feels hyper focused and you know we're able and you
know in the position that we can do. Yeah, an
album where we really show off the different styles of
what's great about us.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, the songwriting itself, right, and it's not just amount
the technical fact that, yeah, you play guitar really well,
you can play drums really well, you can do these synths,
you can add these keys, whatever. But there's the song
right an aspect, that's what feels like has has really
jumped up maybe since Doomsday and kind of gone for it.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, I think Doomsday was the real like eye opener
moment of like this is this is how we do it.
I think that song was such a game changer for us.
They came at such an important time, right, but you
can see why. You know, when you listen back to me,
you're like, yeah, that is that is the moment. You know,
it's under Sometimes you just have songs that are unreliably
good where you just have to go yeah, that's why
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that that's why there was that moment. Then it's the
same with that Animals, the same with with with different
parts in our career where you just go like, yeah,
this is this is it.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
This is that moment.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
It's the thing man, Like I you know, I sat
with you backstage on that tour, and there was a
just different energy and a different vibe. And I don't
necessarily mean about the band Architects. Obviously what you guys
had gone through was powerful in its own way, but
from the fans, from the people that were showing up
to see Architects, was a different vibe. It was like
there was an energy like, oh, this is the last
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time we're seeing them in a five, one hundred seat club.
This is never happening again. It's just that had that
vibe that whole tour.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, it's amazing, it's amazing. Really.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I think we're very, very lucky and fortunate to still
be doing this after all these years. And I think,
you know, releasing an album like we just have, I
think it was important to make it the best it
could possibly be. Otherwise, what's the point. I think people
have already made their mind up about you and what
your band sounds like after ten albums, So what do
you have to give them. You have to give them
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something really worth getting out of their seats.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
For, and I think that's what we managed to do.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
It really is an incredible listen all the way through
and hats off and you guys really knocked it out
of the park with the Sky of the Earth in
the between. You mentioned the song black Hole before. I
want to mention a song you actually just put out
a video for them. We'll talk about everything ends as well,
because that's a huge single that's doing incredibly well. But
the song with House Of House Of and mind Blink
(06:57):
Thank You, I like I wanted to say or something
I don't anyway. The song is called brain Dead because
that's another song it's like, right, it's super pummeling, but
it's that's a different kind of pumbling that I've heard
from architects as far as more of the hardcore realm.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah, it's sort of like party vibes.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I think it's just whenever we play that song live
as well, it just feels so good. I mean, we've
not had the pleasure of playing it with House shit,
but we're gonna do in Europe because they're coming out
and so with us, So we get to do that
every night, which is just.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Going to be so fun.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
But I genuinely worry about people in the crowd when
Stevis and Eric come out, because those guys just bring
so much energy that I honestly I think it might
kill someone, which is which you know, if that, if
that happens, that you know, it's not our fault, but
it's it's it's such a great fun song, man, It's
you know, it kind of has that like eighties nineties,
(07:51):
has like a kind of nineties.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Chorus to it.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Really. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, just a hardcore vibe going throughout it. And you know,
we grew up in hardcore bands and touring with hardcore bands,
and you know, when I first met Architects before I joined,
when they were first like Baby Baby band, they were
playing like hardcore all days, and my band that I
played drums in were we were doing them as well.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
And yeah, so it's kind of a throwback to that.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
And I think we've kind of always had those songs
like when we were young, and we've had these moments
and actually, I think it's an important vibe of our band,
is that energy and that sort of fun, heavy hardcore vibe.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
And yeah, I was really happy to have a song
like that on the record.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Now I understand why I felt the urge to break
out my skateboard for the first time in years. Thank
you for that. Yes, my son I.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Did for the music video for the first time in years. Yeah.
I went over there and they're like, right, we're skating
down this like violect. I was like, okay, cool, right,
I'll get one. I'll try and remember how to do this.
But it was fun, man, it was great. That's amazing
skating around LA and Orange County. It was a good time.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
That's the play us to do it. If you're gonna
do it. That's the place I.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Grew up watching skate It's from like all those old
videos from around that scene.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, it's so cool to get that. Get that VHS
tape is your Thrasher magazine subscription.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, you might get my toy Machine TV out and
try and with the tricks I could never do when
I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Now I can't do because I'm old and terrified of
breaking something.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
That's the problem. I did break stuff. That was my
problem that I broke two bones in my feet, messed
up my knee, which I messed up worse on a
motorcycle later.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
That's an expensive habit.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
It really is.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Speaking of America, you're coming back obviously festivals, Incarceration, Rock
fest Upheaval, that's the other one in Michigan. So like Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio,
just kind of going right through and then obviously a
headlining tour playing those. I've seen you guys at so
many of those festivals. I mean, what does that What
does that mean for you guys? Obviously they're huge in Europe,
(09:59):
they become huge in the States in the last decade
or so twenty years. Even what is that done for
the band architects to be able to play these festivals.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
It's really cool for us because I think we obviously
have headlined festivals in Europe.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
So when you go into those situations.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
You kind of have two ways of doing it, Like
you either be a baby and go.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Like, oh we headline these at home or whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Or you just take the experience of the fact that
you have done that into that set setting where you are,
and you just show the experience that you have from
doing that in Europe. And I like to think of
some people like seeing us for the first time being like,
oh my god, this band is actually quite good. Who
are they and then being like, oh, they actually are,
you know, like a proper band.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
And I love it, man, I think it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
The American festivals are so wild, you know, like some
festivals that we play over there, it's like they're just
Friday is like the Europe's Friday, Saturday, Sunday. You know,
it's like all the insane bands on one day. So
you have to be good, to cut your.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Teeth and to come out.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
And I actually really like that pressure, like just we've
just got to be the best we can be, and
you know, there'll be other bands on there that that
are playing, and that has to inspire you and it
has to make you want to be the best.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Of the day.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
How hard is it for a band like Architects that
that are so heavy in certain situations but also so
introspective and others to play, you know, sort of when
the sun is starting to set in the middle of
the afternoon and it's one hundred degrees outside, versus you know,
at night with the late time.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It's it's interesting. I enjoy the both.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
But I think it's yeah, it's fun. I think you
just it's all a laugh. Really, isn't it like playing music.
It's it's you know, we're so fortunate to do it,
to do anything, like.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
You're going to paint me?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
They do what? Okay, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Really I still feel I still feel that, but I
think I think for us it's just it doesn't matter where.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
It's just like you have to just make the most
of it.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
You have to just be the best you can be,
and you have to put that experience into it, because otherwise,
what's the point. It's like, you're not going to turn
up and just be average that you're not.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
You're not. You don't deserve anything. You know, you have
to go and earn it.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
And I think we're yeah, we're good at We're good
at earning it.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
It's good to still feel that way all these years in.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I don't know how, but I am.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
But I think because we never had we never had
overnight success, and we've it's always been like a slow
build in everywhere where we are. I think we've always
appreciated every moment that we have, because it's it's never
just come and gone.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
It's always just been a thing that you have to.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Nurture and take care of and really give your your
full attention. So yeah, we're yeah, we're just fortunate to
still be here and to do the best we can.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
You know, speaking of those big shows, when you guys
get to open up Metallica last year in Europe, Metallica,
I mean, let's just be honest, right, the quintessential heavy
band you're playing, You're playing right there, bes exactly what
was that experience like? And I've asked other bands that
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have played, you know, like Mammoth and stuff, But like,
for you guys in Europe, Metallica in these giant, hundred
thousand seat stadiums, it's.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
It's wild, it's it's it's amazing to have that the
opportunity at this part part in our career to be able.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
To be direct to them. It's like amazing. But it
also kind of shows how far we've come as a band,
because I would have never thought we would have ever
done that.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
But it also kind of shows like how they have
their ear to to to what's going on in heavy music,
you know, they put they put those bills together.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
It's not it's not like their agents or whatever they
are going to.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
They're fans of the bands that they have out with them.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
And they were just so nice to us.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
We've never been treated so well in all our years
of being in a band. You know, they come and
check in on you, Lars and Hetfield coming to our
dressing room making sure we're okay. They you know, the
first day of the tour, they brought us cake and
flowers and card and like just like saying like welcome
to the family. And their crew were unbelievable with our crew,
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and yeah, just yeah, everything about it was it was
that's how you do it.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
That's how you that's how you do it.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
After that that amount of time, they don't they're not
they're not like they don't feel the need to like
the little of you or make you feel like like
you're not worthy.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
It's it's like that you're like you're part of the family.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
You're coming for dinner after the show, like we're taking
care of you, like we're one big family. And yeah,
I have I already loved the band before, but now
I'm like, just I had i'd run out of nice
things I can say about them.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
That's good. That's good Sam from Architects. Okay, So again
the record is called The Sky, the Earth in all Between.
I've had the pleasure of speaking to Jordan Fish quite
a few times when he was and bring Me the Horizon.
I've always appreciated what he had to say. As self
spoken as he can be, you get the sense that
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he's some sort of genius under there, and I think
his music has kind sort of proved that. What was
it like for you guys to work with him on
this album? With him as the producer, He's amazing.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
He's so talented, but just like on a on a
mate level, I think me, Dan and him just hit
it off, so we all always have done. He's always
been so nice to us, even from just you know,
when we first did dooms Day together that I came
on board and really helped us in a in a
moment where we needed we needed a hand, and I
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think kind of from that moment on we can kind
of we're like, wow, you know, he he didn't need
to help us then, but he did. You know, we
we you know, we were very fortunate to have that
moment with him and then it was always like, I
imagine doing a record with him, it would be awesome,
you know, I get health fun with that being but
obviously he was in Bring Me, which is they're as
busy as us. How was that going to ever work out?
(16:21):
And then obviously everything happened with him leaving Bring Me,
and we were I think one of the first phone
calls was was Dan, and Dan called me and it
was like a week after we were in the studio
together and.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
We just really hit it off.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I think all three of us have the same taste
in music and the same ideas, and it was really
easy because it was like, well.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
If one of us isn't vibing on this, it's not
going on the record. So it had to be all
three of us across the board. And yeah, we were
lucky that.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, there was a couple that didn't make it, but
for the most part, we were all all on the
same page.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
And it was yeah, a lot of hard work, but just.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
So much laughter. I think that's the main thing is
it was so fun. I think, you know, you imagine
that writing music is supposed to be this like hard,
horrible thing, but really it just should just be making
the studio with you know, a few of you have
got a clue about how to write music and then it.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Worked out okay, but that was it, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I listened back to parts of the record and I
remember how hard we were laughing when we were doing bits,
you know, like.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
The some of the breakdowns. We were like, yeah, absolutely, yeah, howling.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
There is a difficulty level, and I'm not sure how
well the normal novice or fan even just understands the
difficulty level in getting that sound to sound that crisp
in that clear in a recorded space. But this album
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is as far as clarity goes. I mean, for me,
it's perfect. I'm sure you hear things, because everybody does
when they hear their own work, but it sounds so
crystal clear. I can hear every little thing that's happening.
When you put in you know, the high quality headphones
or listening on a good stereo or whatever you get
a good system in your car, it's like you can
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hear every little thing. And that's impressive.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
It's amazing. I think he's got such an amazing ear.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Obviously, Dan have produced our last two records as well,
so he's got an amazing ear.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I'm super fussy.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
So my ear is okay, I will say okay, not
amazing because I can't say that about myself. So the
three of us together were so across the board with
it that then when you add Zach.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Savini into it.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
It's just you're just you can't lose. You know, he's
one of the best, Jordan's one of the best producers.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Dan's one of the best producers.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
They've pulled out an amazing performance from me, my teamwork.
Then you're you're all in. I think, you know, everyone's
so good at their instruments. Dan, you know, track the
drums with our friend Nolly, who is an amazing producer,
but amazing drum producer. The guitars sound unbelievable. Yeah, I'm
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so proud of it. I think it's our best sounding records.
I think it's our best record in general. I know
everybody says that way.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
You have to say that, that's the quintessential rule. This
is the best record we've ever done. And then a
couple of years talking about I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I can tell you ones that I don't like, I
can tell you as I do, but I think I think, yeah,
this one, this one really feels like when people say
to me like they love the record, I'm like, yeah,
I believe it, because I'm like, yeah, I do too.
You know, I really I've really lived with this for
a long time and really delved into it and have
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lived in it, you know, and you know when people
are now hearing it, I'm.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Like, I wish I could hear it for the first
time again.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
You know that there really is an immediate feeling when
you press play from from listen. I understand, we're in
the singles world. Now we're in the one song world. Yeah,
add it to your favorite playlist. I get that, But
you start this is just one of those man you
hit play at the start, it's like, Okay, I'm in
for something.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
The thing with with with Elergy as well, it was like, well,
it's not we have to write the best architects opener
ever because and we knew.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
We were like, it can't be a single. It's not
gonna we can't.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
We don't want to open up the album with a single,
so it has to be its own special moment. And
I think Elergy is like one of my favorite songs ever,
so insane.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
It's so insane. It's like when when I'm gone and
dead and gone.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
That vocal performance will be there and that is my
that's my gifts to heavy vocals.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Someone else do.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
That, That's why, And that's what I'm saying. It's you.
You listen to it and it's like you're in for
a treat. We're going down a ride. The song everything ends.
Let's talk about that real quick before we wrap things up.
Because this song, and again you mentioned Animals before, you've
now had some songs that have really gravitated towards the
(20:54):
mainstream world, which for a heavy band. And yes, heavier
music is more okay now than it used to be.
I get that, but it's still a I don't know,
are you sure? Yeah kind of thing. Even as a
radio DJ to press play on something, it's like, I
don't know, are you sure? And now I do morning
show on classic rock radio and I'm like, you know,
(21:16):
I had Tyler Connelly from Three of a Dead Man
on the other day and I'm like, I don't know,
are you sure? But the point is, you know, heavy
music it still has that like I don't know, but yeah,
yeah Again, these songs are are shining through and really
picking up and this song is now what top twenty,
it's it's doing really well for you.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I think the thing with that is, like, actually everyone
loves a melody, so we all get caught up in like, uh,
the internet, and like the people on the internet that.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Are like bad, bad bad bad bad bad.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Those people aren't coming to shows anyway. They don't like
your band, they never did, but they're just there to
attack because they want to be seen as the most
crucial cool person. But like, at the end of the day,
you know, you look at all these bands that are
doing well. Everybody's got hooks, everybody's got melody, Like everybody
loves Nirvana, everybody loves Black Sabbath, everybody loves Metallica. James
(22:13):
Hetfield isn't fucking breeing the whole.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Way through the record, is it. He's not like doing
low vocals.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Like some of the best metal songs ever written and
most successful have melody. And I think we grew up
listening to bands like Lincoln Park and Poppa Roach and
we were so blessed to have bands like Death's Homes
and you see how incredible they're doing right now.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Dude, day Tone's selling out arenas is mind blowing. Amazing,
but like you.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Have to be able to let bands express themselves and
do the heavy and do the do the other song
like stuff because we're all like we're all musicians.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
You love what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
And you know, I think especially for us, all like
everything ends, if everything ends, could be a song that
somebody listens to like I like I did when I
heard Crawling for the first time, and then gets me
or gets the kid or whoever into aggressive music or
into our band or into other bands or smaller bands.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Then our job is done. And then I'm proud, you know,
and I think you could.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
What I love about our band is that we can
have a black hole that goes into everything else. You know.
That's what was making me laugh when we were mixing
and mastering, the fact that we had those songs next
to each other. Where it goes from that like guttle
at the end of black Hole into this sort of
like sad rock banger. It's so funny, but I love that.
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I love that and it kind of shows off off
what our band is. And yeah, I think especially in America,
I mean, rock is so big and metal is so big,
and it's all down to radio stations and you know,
we don't have what you guys have in terms of
rock radio, and it's really thrilling for us at this
point in our career to be getting these opportunities and
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being played to people and seeing us.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Kind of climb up those charts is nuts. It's it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
You hear that, guys. Sam Carter from Architects says, rock
radio works.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
It does. It does.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
As I'm about to as I'm about to go into
a meeting with the advertising client, it's going to remind
us the thing you tell them why I will I
will be like somebody, somebody you've probably never heard of
because you're a healthcare professional, but maybe maybe you never
know Sam Carter from Architects, I get congratulations on this album.
It really does. I meant what I said before. It
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is crystal clear and it's amazing and it's a hell
of a journey front to back the festivals.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
And thank you for the support man for playing us.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I think it's important for us and for me to
say thanks to people because like it makes such a
difference to us. We work so hard on the song,
but you guys are giving it life over there, so
you're you're part of this journey as well, and yeah,
thank you for for for allowing us to be played.
It means a lot.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Well, really quick, I'll say this. When I was full
time on my other station and programming it, your your
former rep at Epitaph Records, Brett Greenberg gave me the
lowdown on Doomsday and I said, I'm playing it, and
he goes, no, you're not. I see I am. I'm
gonna play this and we played it, and uh that's
where we are now.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
So yeah, it's amazing man. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Good music's good music. Uh, headline two were starts just
lie by the way, right after those festivals. I didn't
mention that earlier. Yeah, so again, dude, thank you. Go
do whatever it is you can do the rest of
the day and we'll see soon.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Okay, I'm gonna go and plants and plants. That's my
that's my day.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
By the way, the monastery behind you is make him
remember I have to water ours when we when I
get home, because my wife's work connected me.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
This thing will not die, No, they won't. We now
have two. It's how it's how strong this bast is.
We now have two of them.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
For that same reason. It's like I don't know how
that thanks surviving in the corner over there, but there
it is.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, it's unreal. Well, thank you so much mate.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
All Right man, you got it. Take care Sam.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
How amazing day, Chans, Buddy Cutters, rock Cast. Don't forget
to tune in exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Yeah,
Attention please and no it cutters rock cast. I have
been doing these interviews.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I just had I just had a minute and I
was like, oh, I've got ten minutes till my next
in view. And then I looked at it and I
was like, oh my god, I'm like twenty minutes late.
So I apologize. I'm so sorry and take it. We
can do whatever as long as whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
No, dude, you're all good. Like I just told your
your repid apitaph records, and like I've been that guy
who's gone super long on interviews and pushed the whole
schedule back. So like when they get scheduled now, like
for today, I'm like, can I be at the end
just yeah, just in case.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Then you can, just just in.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Case we start going down a wormhole weird shit. I
just want to make sure we're good. But yeah, we can.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Go down the wormhole. Bro, I've just been down it
many times.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
You're fine, man. I'm just I'm over here dealing with
the the chaos of the NFL draft. So this is
like the calm before the storm day today before I
have to go live there for three days. Yeah, so
tomorrow I've got to be there Packers, Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Oh cool, yeah, yeah, great team?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Hell yeah, thank you. How do you do? Okay? Being English?
How do you feel about American football? Like basically invading?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
I don't know, you know, I don't know enough about it,
but every time I watch it, like this is sick.
Obviously we hear a bit more about it, I think
over the last few years.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
But yeah, I think it's cool. It's cool. I mean,
rugby is like so big in the UK.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Oh yeah, but yeah, I think I probably enjoy American
football more than rugby if I'm honest.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, okay, me too, really big for reasons, a big guy.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
But American football was just cooler. We've got bad teams.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Well, grow growing up growing up in Green Bay, in
minutes away from Lambell Field, that's sort.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Of that, like you had no choice, right you're born exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, small town, you know, that's just what we did. Football.
It was church and football. That was it. I get
to church.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
We just had we had soccer and like Manchester United
probably my yeah love ever and they bring me complete sadness.
Now throughout every sort of couple of weeks, there's a
point where I'm happy again, and there's point where I'm sad.
But it's uh, it is what it is. It's what
you're born into, isn't It's it's your love.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I've been making this suggestion and I might bring it
up again this week while we're broadcasting from the draft
that we need to inc the NFL needs to hook
up at the UFL or even college and incorporate the
rules of the tiers that happens in European football as
far as if you're the worst team, you're going to
(02:35):
the other league, buddy, you know, And if you're the
best team in that league, you're going up. I'm like, ah,
how cool would that be?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
It's so cool, man.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
It just gives people something to fight for, and I think,
actually it's yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
It makes it like, you know, live or die. It's awesome.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, exactly. All right. Sam Carter, lead singer of the
band Architects joining us, Dude, it's a pleasure to see
you again, and thank you so much for taking the time.
I greatly appreciate it. It's an easy question, the first one.
With eleven studio albums, how do you continue to sound
that good?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I have no idea. Hard work, a lot of hard work.
I appreciate it. Thank you so much, of course. Yeah,
it's hard work, and I think just sticking at it
and just not settling for just okay.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I think it's just you know, I think, especially with
this one, I felt like it was time to really, yeah,
just step up to another level. I always try and
do the best I can, but I think, yeah, this
one felt super focused and yeah, I just really wanted
to give it the best I have and I felt like, yeah,
we've done that, so I'm really proud of it.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Well, The Sky the Earth in the Between is a
course available now. Architects eleven studio album. When you're listening
to this again, it's the Architects for so long. We're
so heavy. I mean, you guys were so brutally heavy
but yet so technical with your music. I can still
hear that, but it almost feels like, incorrectly if I'm wrong,
(04:03):
like you're almost living in the spaces a little bit more,
letting things breathe maybe instead of just the continuous pummeling.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, I think it's not just like smacking people in
the face for four minutes, so I think, you know,
building up to that part of smacking them in the face. Yeah,
And yeah, like living in. Yeah, living in those moments,
and when you do something that's super heavy like black Hole,
I think it counts for more because it's you know,
you're not just living in that world. I think we've
(04:33):
always been one of those bands that's experimented and I'm
done different things. But I think, yeah, and now it
feels hyper focused and you know we're able and you
know in the position that we can do. Yeah, an
album where we really show off the different styles of
what's great about us.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, the songwriting itself, right, and it's not just amount
the technical fact that, yeah, you play guitar really well,
you can play drums really well, you can do these synths,
you can add these keys, whatever. But there's the song
right an aspect, that's what feels like has has really
jumped up maybe since Doomsday and kind of gone for it.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, I think Doomsday was the real like eye opener
moment of like this is this is how we do it.
I think that song was such a game changer for us.
They came at such an important time, right, but you
can see why. You know, when you listen back to me,
you're like, yeah, that is that is the moment. You know,
it's under Sometimes you just have songs that are unreliably
good where you just have to go yeah, that's why
(05:27):
that that's why there was that moment. Then it's the
same with that Animals, the same with with with different
parts in our career where you just go like, yeah,
this is this is it.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
This is that moment.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
It's the thing man, Like I you know, I sat
with you backstage on that tour, and there was a
just different energy and a different vibe. And I don't
necessarily mean about the band Architects. Obviously what you guys
had gone through was powerful in its own way, but
from the fans, from the people that were showing up
to see Architects, was a different vibe. It was like
there was an energy like, oh, this is the last
(05:58):
time we're seeing them in a five, one hundred seat club.
This is never happening again. It's just that had that
vibe that whole tour.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, it's amazing, it's amazing. Really.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I think we're very, very lucky and fortunate to still
be doing this after all these years. And I think,
you know, releasing an album like we just have, I
think it was important to make it the best it
could possibly be. Otherwise, what's the point. I think people
have already made their mind up about you and what
your band sounds like after ten albums, So what do
you have to give them. You have to give them
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something really worth getting out of their seats.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
For, and I think that's what we managed to do.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
It really is an incredible listen all the way through
and hats off and you guys really knocked it out
of the park with the Sky of the Earth in
the between. You mentioned the song black Hole before. I
want to mention a song you actually just put out
a video for them. We'll talk about everything ends as well,
because that's a huge single that's doing incredibly well. But
the song with House Of House Of and mind Blink
(06:57):
Thank You, I like I wanted to say or something
I don't anyway. The song is called brain Dead because
that's another song it's like, right, it's super pummeling, but
it's that's a different kind of pumbling that I've heard
from architects as far as more of the hardcore realm.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah, it's sort of like party vibes.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I think it's just whenever we play that song live
as well, it just feels so good. I mean, we've
not had the pleasure of playing it with House shit,
but we're gonna do in Europe because they're coming out
and so with us, So we get to do that
every night, which is just.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Going to be so fun.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
But I genuinely worry about people in the crowd when
Stevis and Eric come out, because those guys just bring
so much energy that I honestly I think it might
kill someone, which is which you know, if that, if
that happens, that you know, it's not our fault, but
it's it's it's such a great fun song, man, It's
you know, it kind of has that like eighties nineties,
(07:51):
has like a kind of nineties.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Chorus to it.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Really. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, just a hardcore vibe going throughout it. And you know,
we grew up in hardcore bands and touring with hardcore bands,
and you know, when I first met Architects before I joined,
when they were first like Baby Baby band, they were
playing like hardcore all days, and my band that I
played drums in were we were doing them as well.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
And yeah, so it's kind of a throwback to that.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
And I think we've kind of always had those songs
like when we were young, and we've had these moments
and actually, I think it's an important vibe of our band,
is that energy and that sort of fun, heavy hardcore vibe.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
And yeah, I was really happy to have a song
like that on the record.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Now I understand why I felt the urge to break
out my skateboard for the first time in years. Thank
you for that. Yes, my son I.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Did for the music video for the first time in years. Yeah.
I went over there and they're like, right, we're skating
down this like violect. I was like, okay, cool, right,
I'll get one. I'll try and remember how to do this.
But it was fun, man, it was great. That's amazing
skating around LA and Orange County. It was a good time.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
That's the play us to do it. If you're gonna
do it. That's the place I.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Grew up watching skate It's from like all those old
videos from around that scene.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, it's so cool to get that. Get that VHS
tape is your Thrasher magazine subscription.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah, you might get my toy Machine TV out and
try and with the tricks I could never do when
I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Now I can't do because I'm old and terrified of
breaking something.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
That's the problem. I did break stuff. That was my
problem that I broke two bones in my feet, messed
up my knee, which I messed up worse on a
motorcycle later.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
That's an expensive habit.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
It really is.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Speaking of America, you're coming back obviously festivals, Incarceration, Rock
fest Upheaval, that's the other one in Michigan. So like Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio,
just kind of going right through and then obviously a
headlining tour playing those. I've seen you guys at so
many of those festivals. I mean, what does that What
does that mean for you guys? Obviously they're huge in Europe,
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they become huge in the States in the last decade
or so twenty years. Even what is that done for
the band architects to be able to play these festivals.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
It's really cool for us because I think we obviously
have headlined festivals in Europe.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
So when you go into those situations.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
You kind of have two ways of doing it, Like
you either be a baby and go.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Like, oh we headline these at home or whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Or you just take the experience of the fact that
you have done that into that set setting where you are,
and you just show the experience that you have from
doing that in Europe. And I like to think of
some people like seeing us for the first time being like,
oh my god, this band is actually quite good. Who
are they and then being like, oh, they actually are,
you know, like a proper band.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
And I love it, man, I think it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
The American festivals are so wild, you know, like some
festivals that we play over there, it's like they're just
Friday is like the Europe's Friday, Saturday, Sunday. You know,
it's like all the insane bands on one day. So
you have to be good, to cut your.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Teeth and to come out.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
And I actually really like that pressure, like just we've
just got to be the best we can be, and
you know, there'll be other bands on there that that
are playing, and that has to inspire you and it
has to make you want to be the best.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Of the day.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
How hard is it for a band like Architects that
that are so heavy in certain situations but also so
introspective and others to play, you know, sort of when
the sun is starting to set in the middle of
the afternoon and it's one hundred degrees outside, versus you know,
at night with the late time.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It's it's interesting. I enjoy the both.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
But I think it's yeah, it's fun. I think you
just it's all a laugh. Really, isn't it like playing music.
It's it's you know, we're so fortunate to do it,
to do anything, like.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
You're going to paint me?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
They do what? Okay, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Really I still feel I still feel that, but I
think I think for us it's just it doesn't matter where.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
It's just like you have to just make the most
of it.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
You have to just be the best you can be,
and you have to put that experience into it, because otherwise,
what's the point. It's like, you're not going to turn
up and just be average that you're not.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
You're not. You don't deserve anything. You know, you have
to go and earn it.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
And I think we're yeah, we're good at We're good
at earning it.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
It's good to still feel that way all these years in.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
I don't know how, but I am.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
But I think because we never had we never had
overnight success, and we've it's always been like a slow
build in everywhere where we are. I think we've always
appreciated every moment that we have, because it's it's never
just come and gone.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
It's always just been a thing that you have to.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Nurture and take care of and really give your your
full attention. So yeah, we're yeah, we're just fortunate to
still be here and to do the best we can.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
You know, speaking of those big shows, when you guys
get to open up Metallica last year in Europe, Metallica,
I mean, let's just be honest, right, the quintessential heavy
band you're playing, You're playing right there, bes exactly what
was that experience like? And I've asked other bands that
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have played, you know, like Mammoth and stuff, But like,
for you guys in Europe, Metallica in these giant, hundred
thousand seat stadiums, it's.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
It's wild, it's it's it's amazing to have that the
opportunity at this part part in our career to be able.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
To be direct to them. It's like amazing. But it
also kind of shows how far we've come as a band,
because I would have never thought we would have ever
done that.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
But it also kind of shows like how they have
their ear to to to what's going on in heavy music,
you know, they put they put those bills together.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
It's not it's not like their agents or whatever they
are going to.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
They're fans of the bands that they have out with them.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
And they were just so nice to us.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
We've never been treated so well in all our years
of being in a band. You know, they come and
check in on you, Lars and Hetfield coming to our
dressing room making sure we're okay. They you know, the
first day of the tour, they brought us cake and
flowers and card and like just like saying like welcome
to the family. And their crew were unbelievable with our crew,
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and yeah, just yeah, everything about it was it was
that's how you do it.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
That's how you that's how you do it.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
After that that amount of time, they don't they're not
they're not like they don't feel the need to like
the little of you or make you feel like like
you're not worthy.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
It's it's like that you're like you're part of the family.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
You're coming for dinner after the show, like we're taking
care of you, like we're one big family. And yeah,
I have I already loved the band before, but now
I'm like, just I had i'd run out of nice
things I can say about them.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
That's good. That's good Sam from Architects. Okay, So again
the record is called The Sky, the Earth in all Between.
I've had the pleasure of speaking to Jordan Fish quite
a few times when he was and bring Me the Horizon.
I've always appreciated what he had to say. As self
spoken as he can be, you get the sense that
(15:24):
he's some sort of genius under there, and I think
his music has kind sort of proved that. What was
it like for you guys to work with him on
this album? With him as the producer, He's amazing.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
He's so talented, but just like on a on a
mate level, I think me, Dan and him just hit
it off, so we all always have done. He's always
been so nice to us, even from just you know,
when we first did dooms Day together that I came
on board and really helped us in a in a
moment where we needed we needed a hand, and I
(15:57):
think kind of from that moment on we can kind
of we're like, wow, you know, he he didn't need
to help us then, but he did. You know, we
we you know, we were very fortunate to have that
moment with him and then it was always like, I
imagine doing a record with him, it would be awesome,
you know, I get health fun with that being but
obviously he was in Bring Me, which is they're as
busy as us. How was that going to ever work out?
(16:21):
And then obviously everything happened with him leaving Bring Me,
and we were I think one of the first phone
calls was was Dan, and Dan called me and it
was like a week after we were in the studio
together and.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
We just really hit it off.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I think all three of us have the same taste
in music and the same ideas, and it was really
easy because it was like, well.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
If one of us isn't vibing on this, it's not
going on the record. So it had to be all
three of us across the board. And yeah, we were
lucky that.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yeah, there was a couple that didn't make it, but
for the most part, we were all all on the
same page.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
And it was yeah, a lot of hard work, but just.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
So much laughter. I think that's the main thing is
it was so fun. I think, you know, you imagine
that writing music is supposed to be this like hard,
horrible thing, but really it just should just be making
the studio with you know, a few of you have
got a clue about how to write music and then it.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Worked out okay, but that was it, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I listened back to parts of the record and I
remember how hard we were laughing when we were doing bits,
you know, like.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
The some of the breakdowns. We were like, yeah, absolutely, yeah, howling.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
There is a difficulty level, and I'm not sure how
well the normal novice or fan even just understands the
difficulty level in getting that sound to sound that crisp
in that clear in a recorded space. But this album
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is as far as clarity goes. I mean, for me,
it's perfect. I'm sure you hear things, because everybody does
when they hear their own work, but it sounds so
crystal clear. I can hear every little thing that's happening.
When you put in you know, the high quality headphones
or listening on a good stereo or whatever you get
a good system in your car, it's like you can
(18:08):
hear every little thing. And that's impressive.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
It's amazing. I think he's got such an amazing ear.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Obviously, Dan have produced our last two records as well,
so he's got an amazing ear.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I'm super fussy.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
So my ear is okay, I will say okay, not
amazing because I can't say that about myself. So the
three of us together were so across the board with
it that then when you add Zach.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Savini into it.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
It's just you're just you can't lose. You know, he's
one of the best, Jordan's one of the best producers.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Dan's one of the best producers.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
They've pulled out an amazing performance from me, my teamwork.
Then you're you're all in. I think, you know, everyone's
so good at their instruments. Dan, you know, track the
drums with our friend Nolly, who is an amazing producer,
but amazing drum producer. The guitars sound unbelievable. Yeah, I'm
(19:03):
so proud of it. I think it's our best sounding records.
I think it's our best record in general. I know
everybody says that way.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
You have to say that, that's the quintessential rule. This
is the best record we've ever done. And then a
couple of years talking about I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I can tell you ones that I don't like, I
can tell you as I do, but I think I think, yeah,
this one, this one really feels like when people say
to me like they love the record, I'm like, yeah,
I believe it, because I'm like, yeah, I do too.
You know, I really I've really lived with this for
a long time and really delved into it and have
(19:40):
lived in it, you know, and you know when people
are now hearing it, I'm.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Like, I wish I could hear it for the first
time again.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
You know that there really is an immediate feeling when
you press play from from listen. I understand, we're in
the singles world. Now we're in the one song world. Yeah,
add it to your favorite playlist. I get that, But
you start this is just one of those man you
hit play at the start, it's like, Okay, I'm in
for something.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
The thing with with with Elergy as well, it was like, well,
it's not we have to write the best architects opener
ever because and we knew.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
We were like, it can't be a single. It's not
gonna we can't.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
We don't want to open up the album with a single,
so it has to be its own special moment. And
I think Elergy is like one of my favorite songs ever,
so insane.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
It's so insane. It's like when when I'm gone and
dead and gone.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
That vocal performance will be there and that is my
that's my gifts to heavy vocals.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Someone else do.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
That, That's why, And that's what I'm saying. It's you.
You listen to it and it's like you're in for
a treat. We're going down a ride. The song everything ends.
Let's talk about that real quick before we wrap things up.
Because this song, and again you mentioned Animals before, you've
now had some songs that have really gravitated towards the
(20:54):
mainstream world, which for a heavy band. And yes, heavier
music is more okay now than it used to be.
I get that, but it's still a I don't know,
are you sure? Yeah kind of thing. Even as a
radio DJ to press play on something, it's like, I
don't know, are you sure? And now I do morning
show on classic rock radio and I'm like, you know,
(21:16):
I had Tyler Connelly from Three of a Dead Man
on the other day and I'm like, I don't know,
are you sure? But the point is, you know, heavy
music it still has that like I don't know, but yeah,
yeah Again, these songs are are shining through and really
picking up and this song is now what top twenty,
it's it's doing really well for you.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I think the thing with that is, like, actually everyone
loves a melody, so we all get caught up in like, uh,
the internet, and like the people on the internet that.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Are like bad, bad bad bad bad bad.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Those people aren't coming to shows anyway. They don't like
your band, they never did, but they're just there to
attack because they want to be seen as the most
crucial cool person. But like, at the end of the day,
you know, you look at all these bands that are
doing well. Everybody's got hooks, everybody's got melody, Like everybody
loves Nirvana, everybody loves Black Sabbath, everybody loves Metallica. James
(22:13):
Hetfield isn't fucking breeing the whole.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Way through the record, is it. He's not like doing
low vocals.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Like some of the best metal songs ever written and
most successful have melody. And I think we grew up
listening to bands like Lincoln Park and Poppa Roach and
we were so blessed to have bands like Death's Homes
and you see how incredible they're doing right now.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Dude, day Tone's selling out arenas is mind blowing. Amazing,
but like you.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Have to be able to let bands express themselves and
do the heavy and do the do the other song
like stuff because we're all like we're all musicians.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
You love what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
And you know, I think especially for us, all like
everything ends, if everything ends, could be a song that
somebody listens to like I like I did when I
heard Crawling for the first time, and then gets me
or gets the kid or whoever into aggressive music or
into our band or into other bands or smaller bands.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Then our job is done. And then I'm proud, you know,
and I think you could.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
What I love about our band is that we can
have a black hole that goes into everything else. You know.
That's what was making me laugh when we were mixing
and mastering, the fact that we had those songs next
to each other. Where it goes from that like guttle
at the end of black Hole into this sort of
like sad rock banger. It's so funny, but I love that.
(23:38):
I love that and it kind of shows off off
what our band is. And yeah, I think especially in America,
I mean, rock is so big and metal is so big,
and it's all down to radio stations and you know,
we don't have what you guys have in terms of
rock radio, and it's really thrilling for us at this
point in our career to be getting these opportunities and
(23:59):
being played to people and seeing us.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Kind of climb up those charts is nuts. It's it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
You hear that, guys. Sam Carter from Architects says, rock
radio works.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
It does. It does.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
As I'm about to as I'm about to go into
a meeting with the advertising client, it's going to remind
us the thing you tell them why I will I
will be like somebody, somebody you've probably never heard of
because you're a healthcare professional, but maybe maybe you never
know Sam Carter from Architects, I get congratulations on this album.
It really does. I meant what I said before. It
(24:32):
is crystal clear and it's amazing and it's a hell
of a journey front to back the festivals.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
And thank you for the support man for playing us.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I think it's important for us and for me to
say thanks to people because like it makes such a
difference to us. We work so hard on the song,
but you guys are giving it life over there, so
you're you're part of this journey as well, and yeah,
thank you for for for allowing us to be played.
It means a lot.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Well, really quick, I'll say this. When I was full
time on my other station and programming it, your your
former rep at Epitaph Records, Brett Greenberg gave me the
lowdown on Doomsday and I said, I'm playing it, and
he goes, no, you're not. I see I am. I'm
gonna play this and we played it, and uh that's
where we are now.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
So yeah, it's amazing man. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Good music's good music. Uh, headline two were starts just
lie by the way, right after those festivals. I didn't
mention that earlier. Yeah, so again, dude, thank you. Go
do whatever it is you can do the rest of
the day and we'll see soon.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Okay, I'm gonna go and plants and plants. That's my
that's my day.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
By the way, the monastery behind you is make him
remember I have to water ours when we when I
get home, because my wife's work connected me.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
This thing will not die, No, they won't. We now
have two. It's how it's how strong this bast is.
We now have two of them.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
For that same reason. It's like I don't know how
that thanks surviving in the corner over there, but there
it is.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, it's unreal. Well, thank you so much mate.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
All Right man, you got it. Take care Sam.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
How amazing day, Chans, Buddy Cutters, rock Cast. Don't forget
to tune in exactly.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Yeah,
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