June 19, 2025 • 22 mins
Dayseeker has released a new song as part of an upcoming album, and lead singer Rory Rodriguez says, "It's darker, it's more horror-themed, but it's not as sad." He's referring to the 2022 album Dark Sun, which really launched this band into a new level of popularity and even gave them their first two mainstream rock singles.
Check out Dayseeker on tour the rest of this year, including an opening slot on the Ice Nine Kills summer tour.
Check out Dayseeker on tour the rest of this year, including an opening slot on the Ice Nine Kills summer tour.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Attention please and no it cut hes rock cat what up? Man?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I do it man A long time now, see, no kidding,
how's life just.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Chilling, just just being a dad and trying to finish
this album and you know, uh, through a dog into
the mix.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I just thought that was a good idea for some reason.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
It's always a good idea.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Yeah, til it's not. Yeah, what kind of dog did
you get?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I got a beagle. Her name is Joline.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
She's like three months old though, so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah, it's yeah. It's great.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
When my daughter's having a meltdown and then my dog's
parking because she's having a meltdown, it's just like, ah,
but uh no, it's good, Chiel, I know, and I
know when she's out of her puppy face and it'll
be fun and chill.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
But just we're in the thick of it right now,
you know.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Well, good luck to you and my sincere my sincere
best wishes to your family for having having that. We
have a senior dog. So it's the other issues like
arthritis and pick you up to get you off the
couch sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Oh man, sorry to hear that.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It's okay, should be all right.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I talked about that last week in this episode though
in this in this podcast, thus we'll move on from
that because bad Flowers here talk about animals and dogs.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Now it's on the brain anyway. Uh dude, I'm so
happy to have new Day Seeker music out.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
First of all, Pale Moonlight's another great song, but that
see the problem Dark Sun. It'ched like something in my
brain that has never really stopped there for like every
couple of weeks I catch myself going back to songs
from that album, and Pale Moonlight seems to be on
the also scratching something in my brain. I don't know
(01:51):
what it is about, you guys, but it's hitting some
some sort of sound waves correctly.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Thanks man. Yeah, it's yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
It was tough following up Dark Sun because it was
such a such a good album for our career and
obviously mean a lot to me with most of the
content being about my dad.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
But I feel good about the new record.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
It feels interesting for us, kind of a darker, more
eerie leaning vibe, and it feels like there's this cool
kind of overarching theme of almost like horror and.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Death, spooky spooky stuff going on. The whole time. So
I'm I'm curious how people like it.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
But yeah, it is tough because I which is funny
because the album before Dark Sun, I felt like I
felt like people loved that one so much that I
there was a lot of people that I felt like
didn't give Dark Sound a chance. And now I feel
like I'm seeing it where now there's like the Dark
Sun enjoyers who they heard Helm moon Light and they
were like.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
What is this and uh so it's a I think
that that just happens, right though.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
It like for but how music, It's just you're going
to have people who are like your old stuff was
better and this and that. But I'm excited to get
more more music off the new record out soon for sure.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Well yeah, I mean listen, sleep Talk was obviously an
album that introduced the band to so many people. That
was and you can't take anything away from that. But
I you know, my friend introduced me to that record
and then Dark Sun came out and I'm like, okay,
but this, and she was like but this, So I
get you know, I get what you're saying. At the
same token, you have to be your creative self and
(03:29):
do what you feel is right for your career creative output,
and I think Pale Moonlight's another good step.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Man.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Thanks man. Yeah, I'm I'm excited for the next one.
We're actually shooting a music video for our title track
and then it'll it'll announce the album this this upcoming weekend,
and then I think we're trying to put it out
sometime in July.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
So what do you do as an artist then to
kind of take that mindset of having okay and I
had a fantastic record to love for career, We had
a great record before that that did a lot for
our fan base, and not sort of thinking about that
and erase in that from your brain so that you
can create free and clear.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I think I'm always just kind of just trying to
write about whatever is presently going on in my life.
And it feels like this, this record feels a little
less more self indulgent or I'm sorry, it feels less
self indulgent and like pity in like being sad, and
I know that's kind of where we we built, like
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our foundations, but yeah, this record feels a little more confident,
it feels a little more and I know, yeah because
I because I feel like I kind of harped so
much on my dad passing on the last record. I
didn't want to keep going into that too much, so
I really don't write much about my dad at all
on anyone, And it was honestly just more about I think,
(04:54):
like how my just how my life has gone kind
of in the points of my life of finding success
through the band, and then I feel like it's affected
a lot of my personal relationships here and there, and
there's been people who kind of want to get close
to you for the wrong reasons, and then people who
(05:16):
try and hurt you when they get too close to you,
and so there's kind of a lot of I don't know.
There's definitely some songs on the album that are a
little more like I don't want to say hate field,
but they're a little more kind of like like, yeah,
like you really tried to hurt me after I let
you in close. And I feel like if I had
a wall up now, I have walls up even hired
(05:39):
than I did before. You know, I think I always
used to assume that everybody was well intentioned and wanted
the best for you, and it's it's weird that as
your career times and you get more successful. I feel
like you have to be really careful about who you
get close to and who you give your time to.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
And I think just.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
About yeah, just about maybe like darker things I've dealt
with and in addiction and other things like that. Then
I'm trying to balance out in my life. So it
felt a little more personal on this record about things
going on in my life and stuff, and yeah, maybe
a little less sad, but there's and I think that's
where all all the elements of like again like the
(06:20):
horror and this eerie kind of overarching theme. I think
it'll get clear once we announce like the album title
and more singles come out, But I don't know. I try,
I try not to think too much about it. I
think we just kind of go into the studio and
just make what we want to make, and we just
hope people like it at the end of the day.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Well, if the themes are are a little bit more
darker and horror related, then the music does that become
darker and maybe even heavier or more drawn out and
sort of the minor tones to I guess get musicians speak,
but you know what I mean, just to kind of
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go that realm instead and musically.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
It was kind of intentional though too, because it felt like,
because it's funny, we did the record in like two
different sections of time. So we did half the record
last September and then we finished the rest of the
record this past February. It's funny we did like six
songs in September last year, and it's funny we ended
(07:24):
we had a song we did yeah late last year
that we really liked, and then when we put like
the rest of the song together, we realized that it
kind of stuck out in a way where it was
kind of more pop rock like Dark Sun, and we
were and we were like, this is a good song,
and it would have been a good song on that record,
but on this one, it's kind of sticking out in
(07:45):
a the chorus is kind of starting in like a
major chord and it was very like kind of thirty
seconds to mars, like anthemic rock. Like, I think it's
a really cool song, but yeah, we had to grab
it from the record because we were just like this
just it just the other songs are so dark and
so like melancholy in production and in tone that this
(08:07):
one you can tell it just like doesn't fit on
the record with the rest of a song. So it
was kind of intentional, but I don't know. It was
just like I said, we did half the record, and
then when we started doing the rest of the record,
it just kind of started taking shape in this Yeah,
really eerie and kind of spooky, spooky away. It's it's
hard to describe without it sounding like cheesy, but I think,
(08:28):
I think, I think it's cool how it came out.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
You know, back in the day, you used to be
able to keep those extra songs and put them on
a soundtrack or you know something like that.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I mean, do you do you keep do.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
You have songs that it's like, well that didn't fit there,
so we'll save that. And I know you did an
acoustic EP and that's a little bit different, But do
you keep songs in the in the sort of the
hat as a well, when we need one, we've got one.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
We sometimes we've stolen like parts from songs. Usually though,
if there's if the whole song isn't working, then there's
something about it that needs to change drastically, or we've
talked about like we've talked about sending it around to
like a few d M producers or just sending it
out to other people to see if they want it,
(09:12):
because I would happily put it out as like a
collaboration piece with another like probably more like I said,
like a DJ or an EDM artist, But yeah, just
under under day Seeker. It just just didn't make sense
for this one. So now I feel like too. We
usually we usually rip apart and kind of write and
(09:33):
rewrite songs so much to the point that we get
it where it's good to go and it's ready to
be on an album. But that one, it just it
felt like we were in too deep and it would
have been almost like trying to rewrite the entire song
if we tried to keep it.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
So yeah, I don't know. We'll see if that one
ever sees the light of day.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
We're trying to see if somebody else, yeah, wants to
like you know, where it's like a day Seeker collab
and then it's okay.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
But yeah, yeah, I mean, you could send it to
Jared Letto they need a rock song again.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Sorry, maybe I do.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Love thirty seconds to Mars I do so, I kid,
but it's been a minute since they've had guitars, even
though they're trying to do the Emaoi thing again.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
At fifty years old, which is weird.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Anyway, Well, cool man, I can't wait to hear these
some of these new songs that are coming, There's no
doubt about that. But speaking of the horror stuff, obviously
later this year, you're going on tour with Ice nine Kills.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Is that.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
By design in a way, like, Okay, if we're doing
this sort of theme with our record, who can we
go on tour with? And then oh, look, Ice nine
Kills needs an opening band, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah, I wouldn't say that it was super intentional of
like we have to only you know, tour with bands too.
I don't like it, but it is funny actually in
thinking about we have a few other tours that we
haven't announced, Yeah, and I feel like they're all kind
of in this spooky horror kind of home and so
we we definitely think when we finish our record, because
(11:04):
I do think right now us with Ice nine Kills
and then like Kim Dracula, I feel like we're gonna
stick out a little bit on the bill because we're
not you know, it's it's just just their vibes. But
I feel like once our once our new album comes
out in full, I feel like it'll make sense with
some of the other people that we're touring with later
(11:25):
this year and early next year.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
So I don't know, yeah, I would.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I wouldn't say it was a sole reason we've toured
with Icenein before. They're they're nice guys and yeah, but
we definitely felt like if if any of their fans
don't know who we are, maybe if they check out
our new music and it's kind of in this darker,
erear leaning kind of style, maybe maybe we can steal
some of their fans too.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah why not?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Why not? I mean you could?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
You could break out some sort of face paint. I mean,
do something I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
We already do the already do the eye makeup and stuff.
Maybe we need to go step further and full on.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
That's something some blood mixed into the eye makeup.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
That tour is later this summer, I think in August
if I'm remembering correctly, with Ice nine Kills, Kim Dracula,
and of course Day Seeker with a lot of touring
plan later this year. Obviously, the new album will be
out later this year. It looks like, you know, the
end of twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six setting up
(12:31):
to be some really good times for Day Seeker.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah, I hope so, because we took it really slow
this year touring wise, just because we did so much
last year.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
But but then it's kind of crazy act our.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
We have the Ice nine Kills tour and then we
have like a week off, and then we start another
US tour that we haven't announced yet. So it's kind
of kind of hard to be away from our families
for that long consecutively, but it feels like we have
to because the album is going to be coming out
I think around October, and it's just good to be
(13:07):
on the road and good to be pushing your band
and trying to play new music live.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
But I think it'll be good. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
You always you're always worried when you put on a
new album, like is this your album? Where you think
it's good and then you know most people don't like it.
Because I have friends like that in the music industry,
where they put out albums that it's weird, albums that
I think are great and that I love, and they
come out for whatever reason, the general public disagrees, and
then you notice that their shows stop doing as well,
(13:37):
and it's it's, yeah, it's hard being a musician. Yeah,
it always feels like you're like like you're on a
rising thing, and then there are some bands where they
hit their their peak and then they kind of just slowly,
slowly start going.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
You know. I think part of the issue with that
is it's you don't know as a touring musician or
as a musician period right, creative, original, all that. I
don't know that you know that you've fallen off until
it's too late, you know, because you don't until that happens,
until if something doesn't sell as well, or tickets aren't
moving as fast, or you know, whatever it may be.
(14:14):
It's it's it's a fickle thing, this industry we call music.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, I'm yeah, I'm curious, and so that's why it's
always scary. I was worried that was going to happen
with with Dark Sun though, because that was like, it
was a lot of people saying nice things when it
came out, but there were a few comments with people,
you know, just like I like to sleep talk better
and this and that, and I I Yeah, it's hard
now because we we hadlined last year and it was
(14:38):
cool to see that we can do like, you know,
like fifteen hundred to three thousand tickets in the US,
depending on the market. But then yeah, the scarier part
is then jumping into like three to five thousand cap
rooms and that'll that'll, I think, kind of be a
true test of like, yeah, if we put up this
album and then notice like ooh, like our ticket sales
didn't really move a lot, you know, from the last
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record or you know which Honestly, you know, there's bands
like that where they're they're kind of a they're forever
a house of blues band, and it's that's okay, and
it's I know, but like that's that's I guess. That's
My point is like if you can play for like
twenty years and still pull like fifteen hundred to two
thousand people a night, like for that long, it's kind
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of amazing. So it's but I think it is interesting though,
like for a band or a musician to recognize like, oh,
this is as big as our band is going to get,
Like it's just how it is, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
But the to me, the prime example of that is
seven Dust, a band that's existed for almost thirty years
now and have never they've gotten close to being like
household names, but they've never gotten quite there, you know,
and they've always been in that We're going to play
small theaters, you know. Once in a while we'll go
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tour recreed, but otherwise, you know, it's it's it's that,
and that's and they're good with that, you know, and
that Yeah, that's that's okay. I mean, you can make
a living off of it. You're doing you're doing the
right things and making the right decisions.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm living pretty comfortably right now,
just doing what we're doing, just at the level that
we're at currently. So I mean, if it gets if
it stays like this forever, it's fine with me. If
it gets better, that's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I don't want to do it.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
At the end of the day, Rory, you're playing music
and that's fucking cool.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Yeah, the well, shoot, I've totally I thought of that
and then I lost my train of thought.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I apologize, uh.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
With uh yeah, So new music later this year, the record,
the touring, all of that, you know, A young kid
at home a brand new puppy. Uh, you have hit
a point in life, Rory where this is like, that's
the right You're You're in the right moment, You're in
the right path right now.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
It feels like, I hope so it.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, it's a lot sometimes for sure, balancing.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Fatherhood and being a musician, and it's like I have
to be away from my kid to support her. But
I'm hoping one day she'll get old enough to where
she can just kind of come on tour and just
hang out.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
But she's she's only like four years old right.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Now, so a little young to chill on that, to
do that.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, yeah, but it's good.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, good luck managing that balance.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Thanks man. Yeah you you have a Do you have
a daughter as well?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:32):
I have a sixteen year old daughter, crazy who just
got officially signed up for driver's ed. But she's a
singer and she's in every choir that high school offers
in the I live in Wisconsin, so she's in the
Badger's Take Girls choir. Now it's only one or two
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people from each high school that can do that. She
was sought after they asked her to join. She's doing
and uh, New what is it New Songwriters or forget
the exact name, uh this year, which is sort of
a play on we live in Northeast Wisconsin to any
w but also New So yeah, it's it's she's all
(18:16):
over the place. And then my son just started those
are his drums, not mine? My guitars are over here
off camera. Yeah, it's like we got a full band
in the house now between He's thirteen, so it's keeps
telling my wife, I'm like, you got to learn an instrument?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Come on, I know, I'm like, you have a family,
you have a full family band.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Were the Cartridge Family in twenty five? Let's rolled except
with a white guy a Puerto Rican lady, and we
got this.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Man. That's amazing. Congrats, that's uh.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I always my daughter likes to sing like any any
song from a Pixar movie that but it's uh now,
I always like, does your daughter write original music?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
She does not?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
I mean right now, it's really the learning. She has
played a couple acoustic gigs with me, which has been interesting,
and I just don't want to. I feel like I'm
exploiting it when I do that, you know what I mean? Like, Oh,
Catter's got his daughter and they're doing the lot a
daughter thing.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
You know.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
But she's so good that I would love people to
hear it more. She doesn't write yet, that doesn't say
she won't. I know, she journals all the time, so
you know, yeah, I mean like I write. I mean
I used to write a lot more than I do now.
But you know what that means. You start journaling, you
start writing down ideas all of a sudden that starts
forming into poetryder songs.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
So yeah, it's so it's so foreign in the beginning
because I think I think I started writing when I
was like fifteen or sixteen, and but yeah, I always
I always trip out with my daughter. I'm like, man,
if you ever write a song one day, that's just
gonna be so weird that you just you were like
a little baby one day and now you're like piecing
music and melody together. And so yeah, I'm hopeful that
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that day will come you and your daughter as well.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Thank you man. I know well, in saying back to you,
sure will.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
It starts with picks our songs, next thing you know,
it's Taylor Swift and then boom you're taking her to
ghost concerts.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It just you know I do, I'll take it.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I I would love to take her to a show,
even if I don't like the artists, just like something
she likes, just to experience that with her.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Well, it's you know, doing what I do obviously, you know,
you present concerts, and I used to do this a
lot more than I do now. Being a morning show host,
I don't have to be everywhere all the time like
I did when I was programming a rock radio station.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
But they came to concerts with me.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
I didn't have anywhere for them to go, you know,
so it was it was like, okay, while you're ten
and you're seven, we're going to Godsmack and Hailstorm.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
That's what's happening.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Because I have to go introduce the bands and do
backstage interviews, which means you're coming with and you're gonna
hold the microphone, you know, And that's what happened. My
daughter still has Lizzie Hale bracelets on, you know, in
her jewelry box that she was given when she was
like nine, and they still, you know, and every so
often this year I'm taking them to go. My son's
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obsessed with I prevail. That's his thing. That's his band
out of Nowhere. He loves I Prevail, So I'm like, okay,
so I'm taking them to go to the Eye Prevail,
Bear Tooth, Kill Switch, Engage Way Drive. You know who
else is on that Amity you know whatever. It's it's
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such a huge show. And I'm like, you're gonna see
all your bands right here.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Well, I know I'm trying to catch that show. It's
that's a good one, man. A lot of good bands
on there.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
All right, Rory, I'll let you uh, I'll let you
be man. Come on again when you're out on the road.
You're coming to Green Bay in August, so and that's
my hometown, so we'll try to catch up.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
You want to come just once now and we'll get
you tickets and everything.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
It's my hometown venue. I can walk in the back door.
But that's okay. It's it's silly, but I mean it's
we all come up together here, so it's like we
know what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
But that venue is amazing.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
I don't know, and I don't know if you've been
to Epic Events Center in Green Bay yet?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Have you? Oh?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I don't think So Okay, I don't.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Think so either. That venue is amazing. It's brand new
and it was built with musicians in mind. The dressing
rooms are fantastic, The whole setup is just you gotta
love it.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Man.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I can't wait. Man I hope I see you there.
Dude Cutter's Rock Cast. Don't forget to tune in exactly
Attention please and no it cut hes rock cat what up? Man?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I do it man A long time now, see, no kidding,
how's life just.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Chilling, just just being a dad and trying to finish
this album and you know, uh, through a dog into
the mix.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I just thought that was a good idea for some reason.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
It's always a good idea.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Yeah, til it's not. Yeah, what kind of dog did
you get?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I got a beagle. Her name is Joline.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
She's like three months old though, so yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Yeah, it's yeah. It's great.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
When my daughter's having a meltdown and then my dog's
parking because she's having a meltdown, it's just like, ah,
but uh no, it's good, Chiel, I know, and I
know when she's out of her puppy face and it'll
be fun and chill.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
But just we're in the thick of it right now,
you know.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Well, good luck to you and my sincere my sincere
best wishes to your family for having having that. We
have a senior dog. So it's the other issues like
arthritis and pick you up to get you off the
couch sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Oh man, sorry to hear that.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
It's okay, should be all right.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I talked about that last week in this episode though
in this in this podcast, thus we'll move on from
that because bad Flowers here talk about animals and dogs.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Now it's on the brain anyway. Uh dude, I'm so
happy to have new Day Seeker music out.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
First of all, Pale Moonlight's another great song, but that
see the problem Dark Sun. It'ched like something in my
brain that has never really stopped there for like every
couple of weeks I catch myself going back to songs
from that album, and Pale Moonlight seems to be on
the also scratching something in my brain. I don't know
(01:51):
what it is about, you guys, but it's hitting some
some sort of sound waves correctly.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Thanks man. Yeah, it's yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
It was tough following up Dark Sun because it was
such a such a good album for our career and
obviously mean a lot to me with most of the
content being about my dad.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
But I feel good about the new record.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
It feels interesting for us, kind of a darker, more
eerie leaning vibe, and it feels like there's this cool
kind of overarching theme of almost like horror and.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Death, spooky spooky stuff going on. The whole time. So
I'm I'm curious how people like it.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
But yeah, it is tough because I which is funny
because the album before Dark Sun, I felt like I
felt like people loved that one so much that I
there was a lot of people that I felt like
didn't give Dark Sound a chance. And now I feel
like I'm seeing it where now there's like the Dark
Sun enjoyers who they heard Helm moon Light and they
were like.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
What is this and uh so it's a I think
that that just happens, right though.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
It like for but how music, It's just you're going
to have people who are like your old stuff was
better and this and that. But I'm excited to get
more more music off the new record out soon for sure.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Well yeah, I mean listen, sleep Talk was obviously an
album that introduced the band to so many people. That
was and you can't take anything away from that. But
I you know, my friend introduced me to that record
and then Dark Sun came out and I'm like, okay,
but this, and she was like but this, So I
get you know, I get what you're saying. At the
same token, you have to be your creative self and
(03:29):
do what you feel is right for your career creative output,
and I think Pale Moonlight's another good step.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Man.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Thanks man. Yeah, I'm I'm excited for the next one.
We're actually shooting a music video for our title track
and then it'll it'll announce the album this this upcoming weekend,
and then I think we're trying to put it out
sometime in July.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
So what do you do as an artist then to
kind of take that mindset of having okay and I
had a fantastic record to love for career, We had
a great record before that that did a lot for
our fan base, and not sort of thinking about that
and erase in that from your brain so that you
can create free and clear.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I think I'm always just kind of just trying to
write about whatever is presently going on in my life.
And it feels like this, this record feels a little
less more self indulgent or I'm sorry, it feels less
self indulgent and like pity in like being sad, and
I know that's kind of where we we built, like
(04:32):
our foundations, but yeah, this record feels a little more confident,
it feels a little more and I know, yeah because
I because I feel like I kind of harped so
much on my dad passing on the last record. I
didn't want to keep going into that too much, so
I really don't write much about my dad at all
on anyone, And it was honestly just more about I think,
(04:54):
like how my just how my life has gone kind
of in the points of my life of finding success
through the band, and then I feel like it's affected
a lot of my personal relationships here and there, and
there's been people who kind of want to get close
to you for the wrong reasons, and then people who
(05:16):
try and hurt you when they get too close to you,
and so there's kind of a lot of I don't know.
There's definitely some songs on the album that are a
little more like I don't want to say hate field,
but they're a little more kind of like like, yeah,
like you really tried to hurt me after I let
you in close. And I feel like if I had
a wall up now, I have walls up even hired
(05:39):
than I did before. You know, I think I always
used to assume that everybody was well intentioned and wanted
the best for you, and it's it's weird that as
your career times and you get more successful. I feel
like you have to be really careful about who you
get close to and who you give your time to.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
And I think just.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
About yeah, just about maybe like darker things I've dealt
with and in addiction and other things like that. Then
I'm trying to balance out in my life. So it
felt a little more personal on this record about things
going on in my life and stuff, and yeah, maybe
a little less sad, but there's and I think that's
where all all the elements of like again like the
(06:20):
horror and this eerie kind of overarching theme. I think
it'll get clear once we announce like the album title
and more singles come out, But I don't know. I try,
I try not to think too much about it. I
think we just kind of go into the studio and
just make what we want to make, and we just
hope people like it at the end of the day.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Well, if the themes are are a little bit more
darker and horror related, then the music does that become
darker and maybe even heavier or more drawn out and
sort of the minor tones to I guess get musicians speak,
but you know what I mean, just to kind of
(06:58):
go that realm instead and musically.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
It was kind of intentional though too, because it felt like,
because it's funny, we did the record in like two
different sections of time. So we did half the record
last September and then we finished the rest of the
record this past February. It's funny we did like six
songs in September last year, and it's funny we ended
(07:24):
we had a song we did yeah late last year
that we really liked, and then when we put like
the rest of the song together, we realized that it
kind of stuck out in a way where it was
kind of more pop rock like Dark Sun, and we
were and we were like, this is a good song,
and it would have been a good song on that record,
but on this one, it's kind of sticking out in
(07:45):
a the chorus is kind of starting in like a
major chord and it was very like kind of thirty
seconds to mars, like anthemic rock. Like, I think it's
a really cool song, but yeah, we had to grab
it from the record because we were just like this
just it just the other songs are so dark and
so like melancholy in production and in tone that this
(08:07):
one you can tell it just like doesn't fit on
the record with the rest of a song. So it
was kind of intentional, but I don't know. It was
just like I said, we did half the record, and
then when we started doing the rest of the record,
it just kind of started taking shape in this Yeah,
really eerie and kind of spooky, spooky away. It's it's
hard to describe without it sounding like cheesy, but I think,
(08:28):
I think, I think it's cool how it came out.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
You know, back in the day, you used to be
able to keep those extra songs and put them on
a soundtrack or you know something like that.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
I mean, do you do you keep do.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
You have songs that it's like, well that didn't fit there,
so we'll save that. And I know you did an
acoustic EP and that's a little bit different, But do
you keep songs in the in the sort of the
hat as a well, when we need one, we've got one.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
We sometimes we've stolen like parts from songs. Usually though,
if there's if the whole song isn't working, then there's
something about it that needs to change drastically, or we've
talked about like we've talked about sending it around to
like a few d M producers or just sending it
out to other people to see if they want it,
(09:12):
because I would happily put it out as like a
collaboration piece with another like probably more like I said,
like a DJ or an EDM artist, But yeah, just
under under day Seeker. It just just didn't make sense
for this one. So now I feel like too. We
usually we usually rip apart and kind of write and
(09:33):
rewrite songs so much to the point that we get
it where it's good to go and it's ready to
be on an album. But that one, it just it
felt like we were in too deep and it would
have been almost like trying to rewrite the entire song
if we tried to keep it.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
So yeah, I don't know. We'll see if that one
ever sees the light of day.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
We're trying to see if somebody else, yeah, wants to
like you know, where it's like a day Seeker collab
and then it's okay.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
But yeah, yeah, I mean, you could send it to
Jared Letto they need a rock song again.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Sorry, maybe I do.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Love thirty seconds to Mars I do so, I kid,
but it's been a minute since they've had guitars, even
though they're trying to do the Emaoi thing again.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
At fifty years old, which is weird.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Anyway, Well, cool man, I can't wait to hear these
some of these new songs that are coming, There's no
doubt about that. But speaking of the horror stuff, obviously
later this year, you're going on tour with Ice nine Kills.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Is that.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
By design in a way, like, Okay, if we're doing
this sort of theme with our record, who can we
go on tour with? And then oh, look, Ice nine
Kills needs an opening band, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah, I wouldn't say that it was super intentional of
like we have to only you know, tour with bands too.
I don't like it, but it is funny actually in
thinking about we have a few other tours that we
haven't announced, Yeah, and I feel like they're all kind
of in this spooky horror kind of home and so
we we definitely think when we finish our record, because
(11:04):
I do think right now us with Ice nine Kills
and then like Kim Dracula, I feel like we're gonna
stick out a little bit on the bill because we're
not you know, it's it's just just their vibes. But
I feel like once our once our new album comes
out in full, I feel like it'll make sense with
some of the other people that we're touring with later
(11:25):
this year and early next year.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
So I don't know, yeah, I would.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I wouldn't say it was a sole reason we've toured
with Icenein before. They're they're nice guys and yeah, but
we definitely felt like if if any of their fans
don't know who we are, maybe if they check out
our new music and it's kind of in this darker,
erear leaning kind of style, maybe maybe we can steal
some of their fans too.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah why not?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Why not? I mean you could?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
You could break out some sort of face paint. I mean,
do something I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
We already do the already do the eye makeup and stuff.
Maybe we need to go step further and full on.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
That's something some blood mixed into the eye makeup.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
That tour is later this summer, I think in August
if I'm remembering correctly, with Ice nine Kills, Kim Dracula,
and of course Day Seeker with a lot of touring
plan later this year. Obviously, the new album will be
out later this year. It looks like, you know, the
end of twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six setting up
(12:31):
to be some really good times for Day Seeker.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah, I hope so, because we took it really slow
this year touring wise, just because we did so much
last year.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
But but then it's kind of crazy act our.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
We have the Ice nine Kills tour and then we
have like a week off, and then we start another
US tour that we haven't announced yet. So it's kind
of kind of hard to be away from our families
for that long consecutively, but it feels like we have
to because the album is going to be coming out
I think around October, and it's just good to be
(13:07):
on the road and good to be pushing your band
and trying to play new music live.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
But I think it'll be good. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
You always you're always worried when you put on a
new album, like is this your album? Where you think
it's good and then you know most people don't like it.
Because I have friends like that in the music industry,
where they put out albums that it's weird, albums that
I think are great and that I love, and they
come out for whatever reason, the general public disagrees, and
then you notice that their shows stop doing as well,
(13:37):
and it's it's, yeah, it's hard being a musician. Yeah,
it always feels like you're like like you're on a
rising thing, and then there are some bands where they
hit their their peak and then they kind of just slowly,
slowly start going.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
You know. I think part of the issue with that
is it's you don't know as a touring musician or
as a musician period right, creative, original, all that. I
don't know that you know that you've fallen off until
it's too late, you know, because you don't until that happens,
until if something doesn't sell as well, or tickets aren't
moving as fast, or you know, whatever it may be.
(14:14):
It's it's it's a fickle thing, this industry we call music.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, I'm yeah, I'm curious, and so that's why it's
always scary. I was worried that was going to happen
with with Dark Sun though, because that was like, it
was a lot of people saying nice things when it
came out, but there were a few comments with people,
you know, just like I like to sleep talk better
and this and that, and I I Yeah, it's hard
now because we we hadlined last year and it was
(14:38):
cool to see that we can do like, you know,
like fifteen hundred to three thousand tickets in the US,
depending on the market. But then yeah, the scarier part
is then jumping into like three to five thousand cap
rooms and that'll that'll, I think, kind of be a
true test of like, yeah, if we put up this
album and then notice like ooh, like our ticket sales
didn't really move a lot, you know, from the last
(15:00):
record or you know which Honestly, you know, there's bands
like that where they're they're kind of a they're forever
a house of blues band, and it's that's okay, and
it's I know, but like that's that's I guess. That's
My point is like if you can play for like
twenty years and still pull like fifteen hundred to two
thousand people a night, like for that long, it's kind
(15:21):
of amazing. So it's but I think it is interesting though,
like for a band or a musician to recognize like, oh,
this is as big as our band is going to get,
Like it's just how it is, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
But the to me, the prime example of that is
seven Dust, a band that's existed for almost thirty years
now and have never they've gotten close to being like
household names, but they've never gotten quite there, you know,
and they've always been in that We're going to play
small theaters, you know. Once in a while we'll go
(15:53):
tour recreed, but otherwise, you know, it's it's it's that,
and that's and they're good with that, you know, and
that Yeah, that's that's okay. I mean, you can make
a living off of it. You're doing you're doing the
right things and making the right decisions.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm living pretty comfortably right now,
just doing what we're doing, just at the level that
we're at currently. So I mean, if it gets if
it stays like this forever, it's fine with me. If
it gets better, that's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I don't want to do it.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
At the end of the day, Rory, you're playing music
and that's fucking cool.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Yeah, the well, shoot, I've totally I thought of that
and then I lost my train of thought.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I apologize, uh.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
With uh yeah, So new music later this year, the record,
the touring, all of that, you know, A young kid
at home a brand new puppy. Uh, you have hit
a point in life, Rory where this is like, that's
the right You're You're in the right moment, You're in
the right path right now.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
It feels like, I hope so it.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, it's a lot sometimes for sure, balancing.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Fatherhood and being a musician, and it's like I have
to be away from my kid to support her. But
I'm hoping one day she'll get old enough to where
she can just kind of come on tour and just
hang out.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
But she's she's only like four years old right.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Now, so a little young to chill on that, to
do that.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, yeah, but it's good.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, good luck managing that balance.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Thanks man. Yeah you you have a Do you have
a daughter as well?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:32):
I have a sixteen year old daughter, crazy who just
got officially signed up for driver's ed. But she's a
singer and she's in every choir that high school offers
in the I live in Wisconsin, so she's in the
Badger's Take Girls choir. Now it's only one or two
(17:53):
people from each high school that can do that. She
was sought after they asked her to join. She's doing
and uh, New what is it New Songwriters or forget
the exact name, uh this year, which is sort of
a play on we live in Northeast Wisconsin to any
w but also New So yeah, it's it's she's all
(18:16):
over the place. And then my son just started those
are his drums, not mine? My guitars are over here
off camera. Yeah, it's like we got a full band
in the house now between He's thirteen, so it's keeps
telling my wife, I'm like, you got to learn an instrument?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Come on, I know, I'm like, you have a family,
you have a full family band.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Were the Cartridge Family in twenty five? Let's rolled except
with a white guy a Puerto Rican lady, and we
got this.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Man. That's amazing. Congrats, that's uh.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I always my daughter likes to sing like any any
song from a Pixar movie that but it's uh now,
I always like, does your daughter write original music?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
She does not?
Speaker 4 (18:59):
I mean right now, it's really the learning. She has
played a couple acoustic gigs with me, which has been interesting,
and I just don't want to. I feel like I'm
exploiting it when I do that, you know what I mean? Like, Oh,
Catter's got his daughter and they're doing the lot a
daughter thing.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
You know.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
But she's so good that I would love people to
hear it more. She doesn't write yet, that doesn't say
she won't. I know, she journals all the time, so
you know, yeah, I mean like I write. I mean
I used to write a lot more than I do now.
But you know what that means. You start journaling, you
start writing down ideas all of a sudden that starts
forming into poetryder songs.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
So yeah, it's so it's so foreign in the beginning
because I think I think I started writing when I
was like fifteen or sixteen, and but yeah, I always
I always trip out with my daughter. I'm like, man,
if you ever write a song one day, that's just
gonna be so weird that you just you were like
a little baby one day and now you're like piecing
music and melody together. And so yeah, I'm hopeful that
(19:59):
that day will come you and your daughter as well.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Thank you man. I know well, in saying back to you,
sure will.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
It starts with picks our songs, next thing you know,
it's Taylor Swift and then boom you're taking her to
ghost concerts.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It just you know I do, I'll take it.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I I would love to take her to a show,
even if I don't like the artists, just like something
she likes, just to experience that with her.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Well, it's you know, doing what I do obviously, you know,
you present concerts, and I used to do this a
lot more than I do now. Being a morning show host,
I don't have to be everywhere all the time like
I did when I was programming a rock radio station.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
But they came to concerts with me.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
I didn't have anywhere for them to go, you know,
so it was it was like, okay, while you're ten
and you're seven, we're going to Godsmack and Hailstorm.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
That's what's happening.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Because I have to go introduce the bands and do
backstage interviews, which means you're coming with and you're gonna
hold the microphone, you know, And that's what happened. My
daughter still has Lizzie Hale bracelets on, you know, in
her jewelry box that she was given when she was
like nine, and they still, you know, and every so
often this year I'm taking them to go. My son's
(21:06):
obsessed with I prevail. That's his thing. That's his band
out of Nowhere. He loves I Prevail, So I'm like, okay,
so I'm taking them to go to the Eye Prevail,
Bear Tooth, Kill Switch, Engage Way Drive. You know who
else is on that Amity you know whatever. It's it's
(21:27):
such a huge show. And I'm like, you're gonna see
all your bands right here.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Well, I know I'm trying to catch that show. It's
that's a good one, man. A lot of good bands
on there.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
All right, Rory, I'll let you uh, I'll let you
be man. Come on again when you're out on the road.
You're coming to Green Bay in August, so and that's
my hometown, so we'll try to catch up.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
You want to come just once now and we'll get
you tickets and everything.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
It's my hometown venue. I can walk in the back door.
But that's okay. It's it's silly, but I mean it's
we all come up together here, so it's like we
know what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
But that venue is amazing.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
I don't know, and I don't know if you've been
to Epic Events Center in Green Bay yet?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Have you? Oh?
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I don't think So Okay, I don't.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Think so either. That venue is amazing. It's brand new
and it was built with musicians in mind. The dressing
rooms are fantastic, The whole setup is just you gotta
love it.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Man.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I can't wait. Man I hope I see you there.
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