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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Attention please and no It Cutters.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Rock cat Josh Todd of course, lead singer of the
rock and roll band Buck Cherry, the new Apologies no
Bs kind of rock and roll band that sometimes we
just need in our lives. And it sounds just so
perfect and he scratches an itch in your brain. It
is Buck Cherry. Josh, thank you so much for doing this.
A lot's been happening in a lot as far as
the music world goes for Buck Cherry. There's a new
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album out always on tour. You guys just did an
amazing stint with the Scorpions.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I mean, come on, yeah, that was that was incredible.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Yeah, we did a residency in Las Vegas and City
and it.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Was a great pairing.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
You know, they're still doing it and you know, still
bringing it. So it was really inspiring for us, you know,
knowing the history of those guys and their songs and
so we were fired up to say the least.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Got I bet, I bet there was.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
It was really funny though, because we announced this this
show that of course you Buck Cherry's headlining for our
morning show station w A p L the Christmas Bash
Get a Little Christmas rock and Roll A Buck Chaeriry
and somebody had commented on Facebook and sometimes I love
these comments, right, And Laura, I know, you know you
weren't going with this because I brought it up on
the air already once. But I saw Buck Cherry open
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up for the Scorpions and all it was was F
this and F that, and it was I didn't want
them to be there.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I'm like, what kind of rock and roll show are
you going to, lady?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Yeah, that was probably the first That was probably a
first night we kind of we were a little on
the more edgy side. We did Somebody Fucked with Me,
which is a song off the Fuck Record.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
So it's a fun record.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
It's a pretty uh.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Intense song and a lot of people can't handle it,
you know, but a lot of people love it, and
uh so I kind of felt out the demographic and
we did. We took that out of the set for
the rest of the show. So that's probably what she's
commenting on.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Probably well, but I haven't escaped the rock Show without
at least hearing one one F word, one F bomb somewhere.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I mean, uh, we made these words up, so we're
just using them, you know what I mean. It's like,
I don't understand like how people have such a hard
time with profanity because everybody uses it every day and
and it, you know, it has a lot of different meanings.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
The word fuck has so many different meanings.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
So the greatest word, the interesting word. It's the greatest
word in the English language. You're gonna have a lot
of editing to do. Yeah, that's you're not worried about it.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
You brought it up.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
No, No, I'm not worried about that. Hit the hit
the marker on the key as we're doing this and
you know, beats out, good luck to you.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I You've got to think about it.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
If a word has several different meanings, it's got to
be a pretty powerful word. And you know, you can
write a lot around that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
And uh, we had a lot of fun doing that,
like the term crazy bitch.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
No, just the the F word.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
You know, we did a whole EPH it's called F.
I don't know if you know about the EP that
we did, but basically the whole concept was that every.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Chorus had to have the word F in it and
so fuck, you know.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
So it was actually it was actually challenge ranging it
fun to write from every different perspective of the meaning
of that word as far as how people use it.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Okay, well let's so let's go from there, like rock
stars and swear, So rock stars are often stereotyped with that.
So what's one thing people always assume about you that
they get totally wrong.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
That's one of them.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
That buck Cherry is all about F this and F that,
because we have so many we have over one hundred
songs out there and it's just not that and there's
a lot of depth to buck Cherry, you know, So
that's probably one of them.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Okay, That EP was where you guys covered the say
f it right? Yeah, yeah, because I remember there was
was that a Was that a single?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Because I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
It song by Conno Pop.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
It's called I Love It and you guys, you guys
did say it because I remember when I was programming
an after rock radio station at the time and getting
songs from that, going like, I'm not gonna play I
can't play this.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, well maybe I can play it.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I mean, everybody said the same.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
It started from our first you know, our first song single,
which was lit Up and it was about cocaine and
the first time I did cocaine actually, and you know
Our I remember Our A and R guy really wanted
that song. But they were like, can you say I
love the Coltrane? I love the Coltrane? And I'm like, no,
coal traine makes no, it makes no sense. This was
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this was definitely put to me at that point, like
can you say I love the pro pane?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
I love the propane?
Speaker 4 (04:46):
This this was said to me, and I said, no,
it just doesn't really make sense.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I go, let's just keep writing.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Let's just go with a different song, you know, let's
and they didn't want to do that. So then he
started doing research on how much Eric Clapton song was
played on the radio, and it was played a lot.
So after that everybody was like all on board and
it was green Lights. So this has happened a lot
as far as Crazy Bitch never thought it would get
played on the radio. Always thought it was going to
be just a crowd song, you know, a core book
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cherry fan base song that we played live and we'd
have a lot of fun with it. And then you know,
radio stations started editing it on their own. We were
already ready to go with Next to You as the
first single and we had like over a million listens
at that time on MySpace, you know, and it was like,
all right, this thing's going on its own, let's jump
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on it.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And so we shifted gears, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
And that's the way it's been happening our whole career.
You know. It's just what people gravitate towards in regards
to this band.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
It seems like, you know, Crazy Bitch, you know, it
did blow up. So you know, what does success look
like to you? Nowadays?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I've been very successful, you know. I mean nowadays it's
twenty six years and eleven records, and I've achieved a
lot of stuff, you know, Platinum, Gold, Grammy nominations, you know,
played with all all my heroes, you know, been in
front of a lot of huge audiences, small audiences, you know,
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you name it.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
So, I mean, I've been successful. So I'm very proud
of you.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Do you feel like there's maybe a song that never
got the recognition that deserved because of Crazy Bitch, you know,
just making it so big?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I mean, there's it's more like records.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I mean, it's just a shame, like what happens now
with the records. It's you know, it's basically just a
promotional tool. There's no more rock radio. There's you know,
there's no more a little bit platinum, golden platinum records anymore.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
You know, all that is gone. It's just like streaming.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
And you know, it's kind of I remember somebody told
me a while back. I mean it's had been over
five years ago, maybe ten years ago. Oh, it's point.
You know, music's just going to be free. It's going
to stream like water. And I was like, what that
would be terrible, you know, And because you know, we've
worked our whole lives to craft songs to where they're
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you know, good enough to be on a record, to
be out there in the public, to be able to
become a hit, you know. So that's that's definitely what's changed.
And that's not not cool in my opinion. And it's
happening now with pop artists and hip hop artists. They're
all getting pissed off about it now too. But the
rock genre was the first to be affected.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
But in the I think some of the true fans,
some of the true collectors, you know, that's partly why
vinyl has come back a little bit. It's never gonna
be to that again I get that never never, but
at least they're still changed.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
They got to change golden platinum status because of that,
because it just doesn't nothing makes sense anymore.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
No, it really doesn't.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
But just to speak on that, Buxury does have a
new album out, and I mentioned this at the beginning
the conversation. It's called Warlike Thunder. It came out in June,
and I just got done listening to it before this conversation. Again,
I paged through it when it came out, but I
don't know if I just had a fresh ear this
time around. Maybe it's because I was getting ready to
talk to you, but god damn it, I fucking loved it.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Like it's a really good just rock and roll in
your face. It's like a half hour long. I'm like,
this is awesome. I'm Good's all you need?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
And the last three records have been the best Buck
Cherry records in my opinion, hell Bound volume ten in
this one, you know, and they all have the same
formula for sure, but this one we did make a
concentrated effort not to have any ballads and I'll cover.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Songs, no there aren't.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
It's literally from start to finish, just kick you in
your ass.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
What's inspiring you right now?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I mean, as far as these types of songs go,
obviously you have the Cocaine song, you have the crazy
Bitch song.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
That's what Buck Cherry is known for. I get it.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
But you do have some beautiful songs out there too.
What's inspiring Buck Cherry right now?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
You?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
As a lyricist especially, Oh, you know, I'm gonna fired
by all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I read a lot. I read a lot of books that.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Really enhances my storytelling, which is what songs are, you know.
So I'm always like actively trying to learn new.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Things, and.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I'm always listening to music and dissecting music and listening
to melodies and how words are put together and how
arrangements are. It's just once you start writing songs, it's
hard not to listen to music and dissect it, you know.
That's why a lot of times I like to listen
to instrumental music because I don't want to think about,
you know, song structure and melody and words and all
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that stuff, you know, because I instantly go to that
and when people are just enjoying a song, I'm picking
it apart, you know, and that's what musicians do.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
So I guess, are there any newer bands that you
do like to listen to or respect or are they just.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
New or what? Like rock bands? Yeah, I rarely listen
to the rock genre unless it's like classic raw or
because I like more soulful rock and roll more, you know,
rock that had more space in it, a lot of melody,
and I just haven't heard that a lot and newer
rock records for like over a decade, you know. And
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that's not I'm not dissing on any bands that are
out there hustling or having hits and having these big careers,
because there are bands doing that, you know, as far
as me though maybe it's my age. I'm fifty four,
you know, And that's that's the type of rock that
I really enjoyed, So that's what I gravitate towards. But
I listened to a lot of pop hip hop, you know,
old school disco and R and B and all.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I like all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
You know, it's so much today.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, Like, you know, the last music I bought was
I Got.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
I'm really obsessed with Line Ritchie and his whole career
and the Commodorees and you know, I just bought all
all kinds of hit. I buy just songs that I
just could become obsessed with, you know, and and then
I listened to them like a hundred times in a row.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I love that the to be able to go back
and forth and listening to different genres of music. I mean,
we we pride ourselves in my house. My wife is Latin,
and we'll go back and forth from listening to you know,
classic Puerto Rican style music to two Slayer to the
Commodores too. We're both huge on blues, so there's a
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lot of that stuff, you know, Old Buddy Guy and
Muddy Waters and stuff. So it's it's it's so back
into My daughter is sixteen loves indie girl rock, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
So it's it's it's back and forth.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
And I love that it opens your ears and mind
to so much different different things in music.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Yeah, Like I'm always listening to James Brown, Stevie Wonder
and Prince those are like the main the main stays.
And you know, I love Bruno Mars and I think
he's like the most you know, talented guy in music
right now, you know, So you know, and I like
all the I like the Justins, So Justin Timberlake and
Justin Bieber. I just did a whole Justin playlist, just
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the hits. Yeah, I love those guys. Those guys are amazing.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Josh Todd from Cherry joining us to go back to
Roar Like Thunder? Can you I want to play the
title track to that song if you don't mind, can
you give us a little what were you thinking about
during that particular song, or what the band was feeling
or what?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, Roar Like Thunder.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
You know, I don't know about you, but I you know,
I'm just I'm disenchanted with the human race at this
point in time.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
So well, it's kind of about so good.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
It's kind of it's about the.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Rat race and social media and everybody picking each other apart,
and you know, trying to sift through all the negativity
and stay clear on who you want to be and
where you want to go and what you want to accomplish.
And that's that's really that's really it.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Roar Like Thunder the new album from Buck Cherry, Josh
Todd joining us all Right Live Man Buck Cherry headlining
the WAPL Christmas Bash December thirteenth and Epic and Center
in Green Bay. We're are doing a charity with that
as well. Dollar from every ticket sold's going to Babes
for Child Abuse Prevention, which is obviously something that's near
and dear to our heart.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
And thank you guys for coming back and.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Doing this the live buck Cherry Experience, because Buck Cherry
for w APL for fifty years has played a certain
tile of music, right, and it's hard I think for
some of our older listeners to understand that Buck Cherry
food fighters. I don't know, give me a couple of examples,
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even some of the ninety stuff, right is kind of
where we are at now right as far as classic
rock is concerned.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
But I don't say the word. I know.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I still think classic rock is kind of it's bs it.
It's not a time frame. It's more of a genre itself,
I think. But for anybody who's going Buck Cherry, really, dude,
but the Buck Cherry Live Experience, man, just sell it,
sell it.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
I mean, it's reckless, abandon it's it's raw in your face,
and it is what it is. I mean, you know
that we are the last of the Mohicans. You know,
we're the last with the dying breed of just a
traditional rock band that goes up there and just gives
it to you with no samples. I mean, we have
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a couple of samples and a couple of songs, but
no like vocal samples last time, like what people are
not what people are doing today, where there's so many
bands that aren't even playing live, you know. So uh,
you know, we're the last of a dying breed and
they're all starting to fade away, you know. And so
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that's what's wonderful about this band.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
It's going to be good and that's what we wanted
for Christmas this year is just kick ass, no frills
rock and roll music. And Josh, I gotta say, your voice.
I saw you, guys, I think two years ago if
I remember correctly, of something within that last five years.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Anyway, your voice still sounds great.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Thank you. Yeah, I mean most of the time. Sometimes
I have my moment, but yeah, it's hard.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
You know, it's hard transitioning into the fourth quarter of
your life and still sing songs that you wrote when
you were in your twenties, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I mean, it's just a different thing. You have to
kind of teach yourself a different way. To sing.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
So you know, when I hit forty, I had to
really change a lot of things, and I worked with
a really great vocal coach, Mark Baxter, who really helped
me with all that, and I found a comfort zone
and it's fun, you know for me. You know, but
it wasn't fun going through that transition.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I got to tell.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
You, it's not. It is.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
It also should be noted that at this point in time,
there will be no coke piles of cocaine backstage, not
like it was back.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
In Man, what a fucking great drug. That was, My goodness,
a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
For a brief period of time. It rears its ugly
head very fast. So I've heard, Yeah, Josh Todd from
Buck Cherry Laurie, you get one more question.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Well just I mean it kind of getting away just
real quick from the music. But you know, with the
Christmas Bash, it is. I mean, you guys put on
a true show. You've in the early to mid two
thousands you did some acting. Do you ever think about
getting back into that?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Oh? Interesting, Yeah, I did a lot at that time.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
I just looked at my reeal not too long ago,
and I really enjoyed it. But it's harder than you
think as far as getting back into it, because you have.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
To have the time first and foremost.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
You have to go on you have to go on
a lot of auditions, which I don't enjoy that much.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
You know.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
I like to work, but I don't like to go
on auditions, and those are actually harder than the actual work,
you know. And and yeah, and it's really the time
I was up for. I won't mention the role, but
I got a role. And then we went to the
scheduling and they were just wanting to block off all
these huge amounts of time for like, you know, for
me to be on set for like two days, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And I'm like, guys, I gotta I have a family,
I got bills that pay, you know.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
I can't just you know, sit around for weeks and
weeks and weeks for two days.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
You know.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
I mean, let's let's decide on the week, you know.
And they just can't do that, and I understand that.
So I had to. I had to pass on it,
you know. And that was heartbreaking. And it was a
good show. And so you know, whenever I can figure
out when it can work for me, that would be great,
you know, we'll see my my daughter, My youngest daughter
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is a very very good actor and she's, uh, she's
really close to breaking out. But I mean she's having
to do that whole good tough. It's really tough.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Is she in anything now or has been anything that
we would recognize?
Speaker 4 (17:42):
She just did like a Sketcher's commercial. She's had a
lot of commercials, and she's done a lot of modeling
as well. And she's going to AMDO, which is a
performing arts college, you know, and you know, and she's
going on a lot of acting auditions. But nothing's popped
yet as far as that. But she's really right.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
That's awesome. Well, good luck to your daughter. Thanks into you?
Why not?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, buck Cherry into me, Buck Cherry, Josh Todd. We'll
see them again December thirteenth, Epic Events Center in Green
Bay for the WAPL Christmas Flash Firehouse will open, which
those guys are like local bands for us. I mean
that's we're happy to have them back and doing what
they do. That'll be fun. And again, a dollar from
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every tickets all going to Babes for child abust prevention. Josh,
thank you so much for doing this, man. We greatly
greatly appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Thank you, thanks for having me, and we look forward
to it. It's gonna be fun. Carter's Rock Cast. Don't
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