AST SPEAKS WITH QueenMother Dr ChenziRa Davis Kahina ×

"AST SPEAKS" is a podcast or livestream hosted by Queen Mother Dr. ChenziRa Davis Kahina, focusing on themes of culture, healing, land, and spirituality. It is produced by NIA (Natural Indigenous Afrakan) and streams on platforms like iHeart and Spreaker. The specific interview mentioned in the query refers to an episode featuring Kahina herself, where she likely discusses her extensive background and work. 
About Queen Mother Dr. ChenziRa Davis Kahina
Kahina, also known as "Dr. Chen," is a highly accomplished cultural griot, educator, artist, and activist from the U.S. Virgin Islands. Her career spans over 35 years and includes: 

• Cultural advocacy: She is the co-founder and director of Per Ankh (House of Life), a non-profit organization with UNESCO consultative status that focuses on using culture, healing, arts, technology, and spirituality (CHATS4LIFE) for community development.
• Academic leadership: She is the founding director of the Virgin Islands Caribbean Cultural Center at the University of the Virgin Islands, where she also serves as teaching faculty.
• Previous roles: She served as the Immediate Past President of the Caribbean Studies Association from 2022 to 2023.
• Production and consultancy: She is the CEO of the AST Speaks consultancy and the producer and narrator of the documentary Queens of the Virgins.
• Diverse expertise: Her work and teachings are rooted in preserving Caribbean and African heritage and span a wide range of fields, including cultural ethnography, naturopathic therapy, motivational speaking, and media technology. 

Background and perspective

• Born in the Dominican Republic, Kahina's path has involved a lifelong journey of exploring her Caribbean and African roots.
• She advocates for using cultural arts, like dance and drumming, as a form of community empowerment and spiritual connection.
• Her spiritual perspective embraces ancient Kemetic (Egyptian) principles of truth, justice, and harmony. 

About the podcast, AST SPEAKS
The podcast and livestream series is centered around Kahina's philosophy and vision.

• Core themes: Culture, healing, land, and spiritual unity.
• Format: The series typically streams on the first and third Thursday of each month.
• Platform: It is often featured as a segment on Da Crew Podcast

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Ladies and gentlemen, May I have your attention please. The
show starts in seven line eight seven six fry one.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Greetings, Hotep, and welcome yet again to another live broadcast
here the Divas on the airways.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
How about that?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
So when we talk about our speaks and we talk
about these different elements of power and prosperity and how
we use knowledge systems, not just knowledge for the sake
of knowledge, but knowledge systems that really provide institutions that
help us. It allows for us to stay as balanced
as is humanly possible, and maybe we'll elevate that that

(01:47):
is spiritually possible even in the medsic chaos. This is
your host of US Speaks Building a new legacy. Doctor
chencra my title that people always affectionately call me is
Queen Mother, doctor chen Zera, or doctor Chen. I really

(02:08):
am grateful for persons that are here tonight that are
actually taking some time to join us around OST Speaks
building a new legacy.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
We've been at this a.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Couple of years on this particular broadcast, but we're also
able to say that we've been moving and grooving with
the Crew podcast and they're going into another season in
twenty twenty six, and we're really excited about that. We
want to give those applause for their ability to keep
this going and moving so that we can actually speak
truth as power and highlight some things on interdisciplinary types

(02:45):
of trans cultural versations. This podcast is about having discussions
or conversations, not just conversations and not just verbs, but
life centered discussions that are around transformative movements that are
happening in the Caribbean, which where I reside currently, as

(03:07):
well as Africa, Europe, Eurasia, so we can actually make
that linkage of what's happening on the other side of
the Atlantic to the North as well as throughout the Americas.
And when we say the Americas, we're speaking of Canada,
North America, all of that together, the forty eight contiguous
to us to people like to just call America, but

(03:29):
America goes from the north pole to the South Pole,
so we're speaking of the entire Caribbean region. We're speaking
of the Central American countries and nations as well as
South America and the nations therein This gives us an
opportunity to really discuss some areas and bring some things

(03:50):
that allow us to have a fresh perspective on social affairs,
cultural affairs, political affairs that are shaping our world and
the forces uplifting or challenging that we can begin to
tune in and actually explore the legacies that we build

(04:12):
together and the past towards a very just interconnected future,
always thinking of the future, because when we speak of
the future, we're speaking of afro futurisms, not just afro futurisms,
but the soul, the spirit, the flesh, the energy of

(04:34):
light that it is happening for us in our future.
And with that being shared, I'm really hoping that my
invited guests are able to come into the platform and
not have any issues, and in the event that they
do have some issues, before I even deal with some introductions,
I would like to just share a special shout out
to the organizations in our community that are actually provide

(05:00):
I support during this month of October that is nationally
designated as Domestic Violence Awareness Month and all that comes
with that. I'm really excited to know that there are
a number of brothers and sisters throughout the globe that
are being part of this national versation. We also know

(05:23):
that there has been some activities around breaking the silence
of college conversation on domestic violence, and that was something
that happened even right here in the Virgin Islands, you know,
with the support of the Women's Coalition of Saint Croix
as well as the Zeta Phi Beta sorority along with
the at the University of the Virgin Islands, which is

(05:47):
the only historically black college and university and a land
grand institution in the Caribbean space. I really would like
to get more information on what transpired in some of
those versations, because I know that a lot of persons
may not be fully aware of what's going on and
regarding domestic violence awareness. And this is a great opportunity,

(06:09):
a great segue into some of the other conversations that
we will begin to share this evening. There's also a
very serious matto that is happening in this region in
regard to maintaining the Caribbean island spaces in this part

(06:32):
of the Americas as the zone of peace. Not to
say that there hasn't been imbalance, not to say that
there has not been instability in certain arenas. However, it's
very important for us to remind persons that here in
the Caribbean, the last time that there was some really

(06:52):
engaging chaos. We can speak of what is transpired and
Hiti and we know some of the ins and outs
of that. We also know some of the damages that
have happened to countries, like nations that are sovereign, like
Cuba with an embargo that has existed for more than
sixty years, justified, unjustified. Let's be clear, embargoes are not

(07:16):
fruitful for the persons in those respective countries, especially when
there are forces that are benefiting from those respective countries,
yet they're still instituting an embargo against them. So we
want to be clear. And now what we see happening
brewing in the region of Venezuela, the region of Venezuela

(07:37):
as sovereign country again and Guyana sovereign country again, and
issues that are being augmented by activities led by some
of the leadership, the leadership in Trinidad and Tobago in
that region, having US military as well as Eurasian military,

(07:58):
and that's what we're talking about. Everyone seems to be
interested in this region and we need this to be
restored as a zone, a clear zone of peace. So
with that being shared, I really am grateful to highlight
some different elements that have been shared through a number

(08:18):
of different platforms. We've had the opportunity to also see
some highlights right here in the Virgin Islands here on
Saint Croix. Tonight, there was a series of activities. As
I've mentioned, there were activities around domestic violence awareness. There
were activities through the day where we had a wonderful

(08:40):
intellectual exchange with scholars from the University of the Virgin
Islands as well as from the University of Puerto Rico,
Rio Bildras and other campuses as well. And this was
led by whatever our own associate professors here in the
College of Liberal Arts and Social Sciences, doctor Mary Walters,

(09:00):
in concert with scholars from the University of Puerto Rico
re Affair and I would be remiss because I want
to go through all of the names. Where we also
had some of our own professors instructor Chanelle heard no
Chanelle John heard share some fabulous poetry that's published. We

(09:24):
also heard from Associate Professor Brown who also is part
of the Foreign Languages. Let me correct myself, modern languages.
They're not foreign modern languages at the University of the
Virgin Islands, Doctor Sally de la Gado from Fasora Ruis,
and there were several others that I want to go

(09:46):
through that ultimate list again because I think it's important
to know that we had scholars that were celebrating is
librating Virgin Islands Puerto Rican friendship that is usually coincides
with his American Heritage Month from September fifteenth to October
fifteenth annually, and this was a wonderful opportunity to see

(10:10):
from what activities happened in the community, inclusive of wonderful
gathering and an award ceremony last week at the Government
House of the Virgin Islands with the at in Saint Croix,
and then there were just a wondrous number of other
activities that happened. It was a black party in Christian

(10:31):
Instead that brought together a variety of advanced from Puerto
Rico as well as the Virgin Islands. It was wonderful
to see people celebrating in spaces in a time where
sometimes people get somewhat depressed, despondent, traumatized with things that
are happening in the world. But it was wonderful to

(10:52):
see people not just walk up. We need to clear
that up but to come together and fellowship and share together,
care together, bread together.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
It was en beverage.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
I think that was really wonderful. And then Sunday they
had a fun day at what we know is Altona
lagoon in Christianstead and brought families together. So the children
of people brought their children, their elders told stories saying,
you know, did various connections, whether it was around boomba, dance, play,
bachata south. It was just a wonderful opportunity. And of

(11:27):
course you know, the soul called some Kayeso plypso to
show that connection of the Virgin Islands with Puerto Crico
for more than a century. We may speak of the
migrations that happened in the early twentieth century, but these
connections and these migrations go back into the eighteen hundreds

(11:47):
and for some much earlier when we speak of the
indigenous presence. So I really am grateful to know and
see that there is a vibration I'm feeling, you know,
because when we talk of our speaks, we are speaking
of building a new generation and really generating transformation, that

(12:08):
is building legacy. It's really really important that persons to
recognize some of that, some of the other things that
we were very fortunate to be able to have transpire
over this last these last few days, has been a
number there have been a number of wishless that are
being circulated here in the Virgin Islands, and we have

(12:31):
a number of other activities that really coincide because when
we talk about domestic violence, it's not just talking about
the actual act and challenge, but we're also talking about
how do people grow, how do people learn, how do
people move forward, how do we build stronger families, and
how do we keep those families together healthy, with wellness

(12:57):
at the forefront. And that brings up another set of
conversations because sometimes we overlook something very very simplistic. You know,
Today October sixteenth is also another opportunity for us to
look at these these national days that observe Like everyone

(13:21):
that's wearing purple, I think you'll notice that I have
on purple as well. I tend to wear purple on
these days anyway. But it's kind of interesting to me
that some people will forget that you almost want to
wear purple all month during Domestic Violence Awareness Month because

(13:42):
there's always some type of a commemorative engagement, and it
gives us an opportunity to do two different things. We
talk about, you know how people have to Take Back
Night initiatives, But October sixteenth, what people refer to as
Purple Thursday, is also a day that and I quote

(14:03):
to raise awareness and take a stand against domestic violence.
During Domestic Violence Awareness Month, the National Network to End
Domestic Violence and other organizations encourage everyone to wear purple.
So if you didn't have your purple on the day,
that's all right. Keep something purple throughout the month of October,

(14:25):
during the entire month that observes National Domestic Violence Awareness Month.
And we're really encouraging other people to encourage other people
in organizations to show solidarity with those that have survived,
to show honor to those who've been lost, and of
course spark conversations about support about safety and security. It's

(14:51):
really important to keep that in the forefront of some
of our activities. This is also there's been a number
of activities. Usually there is a take Back to Night
silent march and rally around this time. I know that
many people in many parts of the nation are very
hesitant to even be out in the night because of

(15:17):
some of the other than positive activities that have happened,
you know, So I encourage people like here, if you're
in Saint Croix, if you're in the Virgin Islands, go
to wc T at w c T SX right, just
take your time and look at the hotline if you

(15:41):
have a concern, you need information. I've always, you know,
reminded myself to stay in touch with the Women's Coalition
of Saying Croy for a variety of reasons, because they
really provide a variety of support. So let me get
that website correct, wc STX dot org again, wc STX

(16:04):
dot org. They help those in need twenty four seven
three sixty five three sixty six on leap years. There's
always a resource, there's always a voice, there's always a
way that you can get the support that you need,
especially if you're in an insecure or unsafe more specifically

(16:26):
spaced So I would like to make sure that I
highlight that as well. The other part that since I'm
not seeing my guests come in, I would like to
take a moment and see where they are and find
out because I am really amazed at a number of

(16:53):
things that are transpiring in the region. There's a lot
going on. We're gonna shift. There's a lot going on
around economic drivers, economic development, tourism even in the midst
of travel, looking very peculiar, but there's a number of
things that are really powerfully supportive of how we bring

(17:18):
some of these conversations together. I think that that's the
part that we're really looking into as we speak. There's
a number of activities taking place so that we can
actually that allow for a shift in how we engage

(17:43):
in some of our organizational activities. And this is also
good evening. Good Evening, Sister Quaine Sheryl Northern Lagran. It's
an honor and a privilege to have you join us.
You know, there are so many pieces of information, there's
something that you would like to do to help with
various National Domestic Violence Awareness Month activities. I am confident

(18:12):
that wherever you are, whatever part of the world, definitely
in the region, but at whatever part of the world
in which you're listening, hearing, engaging in this podcast, do
your part help save someone. One of the things that
I would like to highlight as well is I had
the opportunity to and this movie actually came into the

(18:35):
fruition it was produced in twenty twenty three, and it's
was an interesting reminder that of what goes into doing
a film. It's not like it just popped and go.
But what was powerful was to be able while we're

(18:57):
honoring and acknowledging it. And it was interesting for me to
have young people, you know, folks under thirty that really
caught on to just looking at a two minute trailer.
And I encourage people. You know, it's on YouTube. You
can look for the official trailer for choke Hold and

(19:17):
before you just find the band you would like to
put in the film by Joel? Are you j O
E l A y Uk. And I want to highlight
that this is a film that it was put you
see it on imd B in twenty twenty four. Formally
it's got some you know, the director, the producer, the writer,

(19:43):
some of the stars in the film. And this is
how you know that this is It means a lot
to this director, this writer, as well as the star
in the film. And that's none other than Joel. You know,
I think it's important for persons to know there is
a lot that is going on, is a lot that's

(20:06):
happening in our region and it's very important for us
to be an interval play a dog part in how
we talk about domestic violence and the awareness not just
the themistick violence and the essence of the damage, but
the awareness, the prevention and how to handle trauma professionally

(20:32):
and in the most holistic way that helps to restore
the wholeness and the harmony of anyone that is impacted
by any form of domestic violence. I think it's really
important also to be confident, excuse me, be confident in
knowing a couple of things, you know, when we talk

(20:54):
about you know, who are some of the entities you know?
Because I think it's powerful when you're going to reduce, direct,
and star and write in a particular production. I think
that that speaks vils I'll excuse me, in the film
and speaks volumes. Yes, I'm almost excited. Yes, I'll get

(21:17):
excited in a moment. Let me say, I'll finish this
last point. My illustrious guests have joined us. I'm beyond elated,
So I'll close out with this last part on the
film Chocoals, I encourage persons to look for the official trailer,
but again, you want to make sure you look for
the trailer that came out in twenty twenty four, and
it's produced, written, directed, and starred and by Joel j

(21:41):
o e l A y Uk. We're gonna come back
to that conversation a little later because our guests have
joined us, and I'm really excited to welcome them. I am.
It's an honor and privilege to have you join us,
Sister Queen Makeda Macosa.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
I've been you know, cleaning and and you know, I'm
trying to look good to get it. You got it
going on. You you're going.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
You know, I've been in there doing you know, getting
things ready. So we're you know, I got I brought
Sister Khalida out of the kitchen.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
You know, I see this. I say, like, you know,
you guys gotta you know, just just just.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
You know, we we were you go, Sister Khalida say, Hi, Hey.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
There we go, lean back, greetings, Greetings. Is a privileged
to have you join us, live here on US Speaks,
building a new generation, building a new legacy.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Tell me something about this, I'll speak. I like it.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
I mean, the whole idea of I Speaks is dealing
with ancestral sacred traditions. As we know is the divine mother,
the divine feminine, the divine energy that brings that that feel,
that female vibe, that woman is vibe in a way
that really allows us to restore truth, just disorder, balance, reciprocity, harmony,

(23:13):
divine righteousness. Mod that's what we're doing when we speak
of us speaks and just putting that spoken word into fruition,
really manifesting womnifesting. How about that Wollm manifesting the things
that we know. Restore greatness, restore balance, restore order, restore
our creativity, strengthen our culture, facilitates what we do with culture, agriculture, aquaculture,

(23:41):
transformative things, spirituality, all of our meditative work, and being
able to put all of that in like one spot
whenever needed. So we recognize that we are pluriversal. We
know that when we talk about the universe, we're speaking
of a universe that is more like a wombniverse in
our versation. So that's a part of what US speaks

(24:05):
and building a new legacy so that that way we
can always have guests like yourself that really restore and
implement that on a daily basis. So before I even
go too much further, on just what we do. I
just wild like people to know that, you know, who
we have with us is one of our esteemed eldresses,
two esteemed eldresses. You know, I'll speak person of my

(24:28):
sister Queen. I always call a sister queen, Eldress Makata
Dread and you know she has been a entrepreneur, human
rights activist, agriculturists, agritourism, agribusiness, sustainable development, research education. If

(24:49):
you don't know about heirlom seeds, you're going to learn a.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Little something something today.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Just to add that to and she is the founder
of the World Beat Center, the World Beat Cultural Center
in Balboa Park in the San Diego community, and the
creator of the children's Ethnobotany, Peace Garden, co founder Casa
de Dune and Theojuana Mexico. I just think it's important
if people just get an extra little extra to know

(25:17):
the variety of not only awards, but achievements, publications, and
I would like to highlight some research publications, you know,
doing things with you know, the academies, some of the
top academies and universities in the country, as well as
outside of that, doing things around the water for Africa, Foundation,
engaging in the quote Channel ten Leadership Award as recipient,

(25:42):
you know, working on a variety of projects. I could
speak on our illustrious eldres sister, Queen Makeda Maketa dread
for hours just by looking at some of the work
that she's done and a legacy that extends beyond let's
make sure we get it right sixty plus years. So

(26:05):
don't get twisted if she looked young to you, just
it's no trust comple. She takes care of herself. You know,
she's of the radio network, is you know, one of
the first professional media locals in the West Coast. You know,
she broadcast on Fusion Radio one o two point five

(26:25):
of them. You know, she's been you're gonna you're not
gonna bring up I go bring up thing. I go
bring up thing, I go thing. And then I've had
the honor and privilege of having her as a jegna,
not just a mentor, but as a spiritual warrior and
elders warrior for more than forty years. So I'm grateful.

(26:47):
So that's why it was important, even if it was
just kind of like can you come on this show,
like just did we plan right? I wanted to bring
that up, my beloved sister. Hmm, it's when I see
because I'm seeing another layer of the twinness. So just
feeling that energy because I see two, but I know

(27:09):
it's three. So I'm you know, our beloved sister queen again.
The people that feed you, you remember them, that's right,
that feed you nourishment and teach you to nourish yourself,
your families, your children, your grandchildren, and these sisters here. Okay,

(27:31):
I'm going to I'm going to get hungry if I
keep talking.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Really you got hungry if you ate this meal. But
we're just.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
We had some ancestors. That's what we need to call that. Yeah,
we gotta call that. You know we had you know,
these black eyed teas were just we're different with black
eyed peas.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
And then talk about it. I want to hear.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
I want to hear in want to give us that. Yeah,
the black that put an African season in them. You know,
we had some African herbs and smoked Africa.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Yeah, that smoke.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
You know that that they use that and jolly rice.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
You know that's we had Miller you know, you know
me and mill it.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
You know, I know you made Militation the way that
people just wanted to stuck on their fingernails and go inside.
I remember, I remember.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
You know, you know, Miller, there's sixteen how many kinds
of militaris that we just found out at sixteen sixteen
And the mill of has more protein.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Than any other any other grade.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
It's it's not you know, it's it's really lowly rated.
And so get to Miller with all this stuff coming on,
the millan is cheap, you know, not right, do do
the Millan?

Speaker 3 (29:00):
That's our ancestors.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Food is Ethiopia, the ancient great you know, last year
the U n U proclaim millet the year of the million,
the year of the million, you know, and they yes,
and they encourage people all over the world to grow
millet million. So you guys put that in here because

(29:25):
they haven't got help to that yet.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
So you know, be storing your food right now. What's
going on?

Speaker 4 (29:31):
And mill it is one of the greats because you
can sprout it, you know you can.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
We're getting ready to.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
To do these well, I must tell you, well, let
me tell you this. We're getting ready to sprout these
these wheeatberries. You know, sprouted is cool, and we're getting
ready this lady. We know she does love looads. So
we got we got her to tell us what you
know we've been for years. Yeah, and grind grinds because

(30:01):
you know she's getting ready to get out of Yeah,
that's powerful. She used she used to make this miller
love loaf. She love lo love loads made from weed.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
A lot of people eating weed, but you know, so
it's more digestive, Yeah it is.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
And then she put blas in there and some gender
and she grinded up and she made these little love
loads and then she and then she make it a
low you know, uh gang about one hundred and something dehydrator. Dehydrator.
You know she was She was always the one I

(30:44):
would come in there. She would have have to be
cooking in her solar oven. Nice. She's a pietier man.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Okay, we'll put Those are the things that persons need
to know so that they can address their wellness. And
that's the part that I want to highlight for the
both of you as well, is that these are elder
sister queens that have been consistent, no better word, consistent
in the legacy of making sure that we ate well.

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We were learning to grow our food sprout our food
as you're hearing and really bringing this to wider communities.
So when you want to know a little extra, make
sure that you go to these sites that I'm recalling,
and I'm gonna say it again begin in the middle,
in the beginning, and again towards the end. But you
want to go to Worldbetcenter dot org. That way you

(31:42):
can find out about even if you're not living in
the West Coast, but you're going to probably want to
do a pass through, not a drive by, but a
pass through because you're going to want to have a
qualitative experience with World Beat Cultural Center because it's not
only the creativity through transformation, but it's a creativity with diversity.

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It's a creativity that deals with all of agriculture, architecture, sustainability, environmentalism.
You're going to learn some astronomy and you're going to
be dealing with the arts. So just think of that
four a program right agriculture. Just go to people, get
it clear, because I think it's important to know. And

(32:30):
this has been going on for it's been more than
thirty years, right, Oh.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Well, we're about god. The Orbit Center here in the
park is about thirty five of more beautiful and our
whole production we've been doing it. It's probably about fifty
five years or something.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
That's true. Sure, because we're going to pre the profit.
We're going to pre correct.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
Problem productions and all those things.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
We've got a cultural center and it's in Bibeo Park
and we have a farm now. So that's that's incredible,
you know, and you know, growing your food right farm
the table. You know, it's great, you're cooking your food.
Uh at the profit. We had a greenhouse out there
and we were doing.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Our you know, some from some uh sun flower greens.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
And buckwheat letters and wheat grass and we got to
bet doctor and wigmore the wheat grass.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
We brought wheat grass for our city, you know.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
And but now to have a farm and a green
we're getting ready to go to the greenhouse is really
you know what's happening. I was in Missouri and I
was gonna try to see my son Yaqui awaken, and
he was in he was in uh Atlanta, you know,
so we missed each other, but out here a lot.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
But I want to see his farm. I mean he
showed me he goes.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
You know, mama, all those those vegetables that you see
is hold it up on the farm. Those are the
seeds you gave us that our excellent the seed. So
we're in seeds. So we're in seed saving and everything.
I got seeds for people, you know. You know, I
like to, you know, give seeds away. So you heirlooms, GMO,

(34:32):
you got to have your heirloom seeds, you know, and
we got I mean, I'm trying to figure out how
I can send seeds.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Or something, but we have.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
If you're in San Diego, I got seeds for you,
and we got a seed library. It's so important that
you control the seeds. Who controls the food controls the
people and controls the land. So you got to get
busy and start growing your foods, you know, if you
can make containers, you know, so you know, I like

(35:02):
to come on and we you know, bring different I
like your your sins. I like you little tell me
about your little you know platform here because we should
you know, this is the way we should be communicating.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Right, I think this is it. I want to She's
in the background trying to be quiet, but one of
the engineers that's working through this is just coming through.
One of our sister Queens, the Visionary Angela, so you
may see her on the other part of the platform,
and at some point I hope that she tunes in
as well, even because usually she's because she's managing this

(35:38):
to like six days a week, wow, right, and doing
this to make sure that a number of us have opportunities.
She does a police with the sisters, you know, with
the queens, and then she's got the kings doing some
things for us and just keeping this so that we can,
you know, work this towards being able to do publications,
putting out messages. It's going on. You know, some of

(36:02):
our broadcasts we do cover some things that are socially engaging,
some that maybe controversial to some, But our focus is
how do we move through these things with tranquility, harmony,
peace to the best of our ability. How do we
stay protected?

Speaker 3 (36:22):
You just said it.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
If we have to feed ourselves, you are saying it,
we have to grow our food. And I know I'm
coming some more, some more heirloom seeds, And I think
just for the persons that may not be as familiar,
I think it's really important for person to just be
more familiarized. When people are speaking of heirloom seeds. We're
speaking of those seeds. They're old fashioned seeds that are

(36:46):
handed down from generation to generation, right and says sometimes
they're as much as fifty or even older. And it's
really important that these are the types of seeds themselves.
They're not that they're old. It's that if they don't,
it's not there. They will germinate well, once you prepare
the soil and the water and things like that. This

(37:07):
has nothing. This is like non GMO, no genetically modified
organism seed like what people like to sell cheap or
inexpensive and just get you know, giving way, these are
seeds that really are I like the term old fashioned
because then it allows persons to know that these are
seeds that will grow and then you want to save

(37:28):
the seed that comes from that fruit of right, that's
what we did.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
You know, we we we pass it on, you know, uh,
you know, we pass on the seeds. Hey, could you
bring me some seeds out there?

Speaker 3 (37:43):
You know. That's what's happening is Bill Gates and.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
Them guys are they're in Africa, and they're making sure
that you cannot you know, GMO, DMO, you can't, you
can't have another seed. You can't grow another seed. They're
trying to stop that. The farmers in Africa, you know,
for having these these seeds you know, and uh and

(38:09):
and doing seed they making it illegal. They made it
illegal to swap your seeds, to do seed swaps. We
do a seed swap. But I encourage everyone else to
do that. I encourage you to to you know, have
your own gardens and and save the seeds, you know,

(38:33):
save the seeds. It's so important. And keep your you know,
me and the ciszens. And you know, I'm not a
I like my age. You know, people you know, but
people tripped you know when they you know, they think
that you know somebody your age. You know, when I'm
eighty three, I just do an eighty three on July

(38:55):
lessons leessense and but you know when you when you eat,
when you eat right and you start doing your tai chi,
your cheek gung.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Main The main thing is drink. Yeah, I'm drinking. You know,
I'm I'm drinking. If you drink it in the glass.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
You know, I got this plastic grad here, but normally
drinking it in glass. Anything that you can do with
your glass jars and right.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
So I'm a baker creek. Uh, heirloom seeds. Yeah, just
so you know.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
Airloom seeds is some of the seeds that you don't
you don't see like this tomato, Yes, that's it, an
orange tomato. Okay, and uh and then I I like this,
this is fineless opra. Like if you guys know about
the okra, it's so importan because trying to keep those

(40:03):
opras together. Okra has that musically, you know, that slimy
stuff that you really did then like that is that
is the stuff that's good.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
For you, right because it heals. It heals the entire body.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
It's like cactus.

Speaker 4 (40:19):
Yes, the same thing on like on cactus, you know,
and the slimy stuff. So you just what you do
is you cut the the okra and put it in
a jar, and then you put water in it and
leave it overnight and that slime that musically that or

(40:40):
you can put a lemon in there and then you
drink it at you drink it at night and I
mean the next morning, yes, and that your headaches and
and all these different things, you.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Know, because it clears out your gastro intestinal system if yeah,
provides balance in your cardiovascular system fields through anything in
terms of any kind of skin or in military system,
it really helps the body to stay balanced, right line,
You're absolutely correct, and.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
That's why that's why we're so healthy as the people.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Right.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
This is Chinese reddish.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
Oh yeah, yeah, So all these different things in their airloom.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
You know, I'm coming from my portion. You don't got
a mail mind, I'm gonna get it together. So yeah,
I don't want anything to be interfered with or pay
past through anything.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Person I can just bring with Yes, that's it. That's it.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Yes, because we can bring Washington State apples that are sprayed.
They should be You shouldn't be fighting people about, right
uh uh right, yeah, this is uh and that seas
right yeah, right now, almost everything when you go into
most of them a depth. Well let me speak for here.

(42:02):
I know there's more variety in the forty eight contiguous,
but here, even in the Virgin Islands, the US side,
unless you're getting it from the farmers in our farmer's market,
then you're left open solely to seed seedless grapesless, oranges seedless,

(42:23):
watermelon seedless.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
I'm like, I'm not sure this candalog they got that
over the other candalog do you know.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
I was like, when you open the candop and there's
nothing like that was the whole thing about Candalo.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
The thing is scooping out the season.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Yeah. Yeah, So there's been some challenges and I realized, like,
you know, I tend to get at least what my
family and I do. We tend to take in what
is grown here in its most natural scene. So if
it's magnis in season, you eating mango for a while.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
If it's.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Yeah, it's like it's out for a while, you know.
If it's sour, sps, sugar, that's what you're eating, you know,
banana things like bananas, figs like that. We have almost
all year round, you know, lemon and limon. So we
have our own. We have a sour orange as well
as the sweet orange.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Yeah we got we got the sour Yeah, we got
the thur or that's what you know.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
Those guys that looking at it, Yeah, what do you
do with your sour orange?

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Well, we use it.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
We primarily we will use it to put in different
juices to just make sure that it has that that
natural flavoring. Some persons won't use the sour orange, like
if they're preparing steamed greens or if they're doing like
a salad or kale, they'll use that over on it

(43:47):
as well, and then we'll add you know, other herbs
and spices. You know, let it marinate so that way
it's almost like it without you really cooking it. You
can get all of the vitamins from the various screens.
With a lot of persons here are producing like a
charred and pop choy, different types of lettuces, usually lettuces

(44:10):
that are heat resistant because with the winter we need
a lot of that. And I'm just excited because what
I'm seeing is that person a little bit of everybody
is starting they're starting to do micro greens, and yeah,
I love it, you know so because again because if
you go to buy them, they're really mad expensive. And
when you see it's almost like the little chia pet

(44:33):
that people have, you can eat that. Then people start saying, oh,
you can do that with bradishes, you can do that
by foul fall, you know, you can do with buff meet,
et cetera. And I think that that's how even things
like we keep a lot of dry goods because sometimes
we don't, you know, during the hurricane season, which is
still in effect until the persons, you know, are you.

(44:54):
Most people are depending on can things, but a lot
of us are using just dry goods and then as
we meet them we sprout then. But yeah, and if
we may sprout and create, great, you know, create a
bread or a loaf or you know, prepare them, you know,
cook them, you know, cook them with you know other
Now we're gonna get better on this millet though, because

(45:15):
a lot here in the Caribbean it's primarily like rice,
you know, rice and potato, you know.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
Yeah, shin we make porge, you know, I had yesterday
and you know, my sister made it to my other
sister and Bernee she made it and she put maple
syrup and and then she you know, blended it up.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
But it was nice.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Okay, we can't be talking all this food.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
Rice on the side with someone come around so much food,
you know, true?

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Oh man, so.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
But uh yeah, Batistically, I'd like for you to share
some of your experience as a as a as a
masterful chef as well. So please share some of that
which you have done, some of the things you actually
were living. You were actually residing with us here in
Saint Croix. For min, I'm trying to get sister clean

(46:25):
Macata to come back.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Come.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
I know that you know you've lived here, so you
know some of the dynamics of being in Saint Croix,
being in the Virgin Islands. I would love for you
to just share a bit of your legacy, some of
your story.

Speaker 5 (46:40):
You know. Yes, when I was there, I I my
sister and I had created the milletburger and so we
did that a lot. We shared that with the community
and it was millet and oats and different seasonings and.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
It was a really popular. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
And we also did a tabouli and yeah, that was
really good and we we.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Loved We even made our own tofu.

Speaker 4 (47:12):
We would go out to the sea and get the
salt water to coagulate this soy milk to make the tofu.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
We made tofu. We made burgers.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
We had two different burgers, and you know, we worked
at the Yuka Kitchen and we made we made for
we were the ladies.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
That's great, y'all made, y'all.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
That's that's a whole other legacy because people took that
legacy to the next level. What you all pro established
YUKA For those that aren't familiar, it stands for the
United Caribbean Association and they do have. They still have
maintained that kitchen, you know, close to forty years now,
and even though they're in the process of having the

(47:54):
building renovated, you know, after various hurricanes and other damages,
it's coming to it's coming into tuitions, you know. So again,
your legacy has been great. I'm just grateful that you
but please continue, because you say, listening to you, I've
got to go back, and because I remember you had
the packets so that we can make it ourselves and
our homes.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
It wasn't just fed us.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
You were like you fed us first, and then once
we got the hook, then you were like, well you
can make it yourself.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 5 (48:24):
We had a We had kits that you could buy,
and it had the We even had the we even
dried the millet. We tried it, We cooked it and
dried it, and all you had to do was rehydrate
it and make your burgers. And so the kit came
with the grain, the seasoning package, the oil, the tamori,

(48:44):
and all you had to do was just cook your millet.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
We had instructions in there and you can make your
own burgers.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
I just hope we're hearing entrepreneurship. I'm gonna say it again,
entrepreneurship legacy, entreprenur nordship legacy. So see, there's a wealth
of information that you all have been central to for decades,
not like you just came to this. This isn't like
a trendy thing. You all been doing this, you know,

(49:14):
I know, before I had children and my eldest is forty.
So I'm just saying, it's been a minute that you
have been really keeping this going and helping helping people,
helping families, communities, you know, ultimately helping nations, you know,
and and I'm really just grateful to be able to

(49:35):
just give a thread because like I said, this could
be a whole series. We're gonna come, We're gonna have
that conversation off air because we definitely need to begin
to share some of this because there's another generation of
youngsters that they desire to know. Of course, they want
to do like the techie version, and that's cool, but

(49:56):
we want like people to be comfortable that, you know,
the technology can only go so far if we continue
to feed ourselves, because if we do not feed ourselves,
we can't heal ourselves. It's right, we can't heal ourselves.

Speaker 5 (50:12):
And we have to understand what the foods that are
good for us and which ones are harming our bodies
and go back to the old ways. You know, mckaya
has been having a lot of conversations with me about
you know, foods that, like I say, certain foods are inflammatory,
you know, like your night shades.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
You know, we need to ease up off of them.

Speaker 5 (50:33):
Fried foods just you know, just strobly can just keep
it as healthy as possible.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Correct to eat.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
You are what you eat, and some people, you know,
just because you're vegetarian, you think you're eating the right foods,
you know, because you know I you know, I talked
to my nephew and negos, Well it's he goes, there's
no need in it.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
And I was like, I might, right, might have been
fried in the same oil with the chicken right next
to it. Right there you go.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
It's some messed up oil too, jacked up oil too.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Yeah, right, that rape seed that can on lake right.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
You know, And you know, you know I don't have
I'm not I look at her.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
You know, I've been working because we're going through construction
and everything, so I don't have I don't have my
Sunday go cook my cool roots.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Close up.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
We look listen, but she's in her seventy seven what
are you now? Seventy Hey, next week, I'll be seventy seven.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Seventy seven.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
She's a baby. You know, I'm a curry strong and
so that's what I'm saying. You know, I'm like you
and you all popping them numbers. So I'm just giving thanks,
you know, with my little sixty something, and I'm grateful.
I'm grateful that I've had to join.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Yeah, girl, Yeah, trying.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
To work with Look at you. We have a legacy
to keep. That's when we talk about as we have
a legacy to kid and you see it right on
the bottom screen, you know, when we're talking about building
a new generation. And I'm grateful that that's the other
portion of what we're moving towards to be able to
let persons know. You know, if you like more information,

(52:17):
We've given you some websites. If you are in the
California area, make it to San Diego, have an experience,
you know, go and engage support, promote, invest in World
Beat Center.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
There's a lot that tapping there.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
It's not only the kitchen even though you're gonna get
stuck there for a minute. It smells good and you
feel good after you eat. You know sometimes when you
eat you get like sluggish. That's not what you feel.
You go and you have some wonderful whether the food
is live, if the food is prepared, because it's prepared
with that love and energy. The combinations are on the point.

(52:56):
The quality of the food you don't have to worry about.
You don't have to worry about what's in it. Ye're
talking about. It's wonderful to go to a place where
you don't have to you can just like that some
of that.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
And you're good at oil.

Speaker 4 (53:10):
So everybody tries to you know, most restaurants they really
try to uh be you know Parsevonians with the you know,
because they they have they they they have a budget,
you know. But you know, we eat the food and
I know how the food should be. It and since

(53:32):
to tell you I am funny about my food.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
All the years all.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
And people tell you they say, black don't crack, black fracts.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Black, don't take care of it, don't take replacement.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Yeah, that's why we have diabetes. You know. You know
how many people we don't diabetes and eye blood dread,
you know, and it's in. We really gotta, you know,
start meditating.

Speaker 6 (54:03):
Not only that, we gotta look at what's what's going
on and and and our our minds are, you know,
our temple bodies. You know, so you are what you're
eating to become what you think so so important that
you could do chigong. You know, chigong is so uncott tight,
but t chigong to keep those meridians, you know, open

(54:27):
and flowing and your chakras, you know, there's chokraate breathing too.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
And and and then just eat some of the Chinese little.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
Chinese being to come on the Instagram or so look
at some of those those those things that they are tough,
those exercise simple and and and you're happening at that
chie that cheat energy. What what it's messed up is

(54:58):
because we are our cheek gets blocked our energy and
and prana or whatever you want to call it. The
breath is really important, the breath which connects you to
your spirit.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
So any any.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
Any breath of exercises that you can do would be
is incredible.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Let's do let's do a breath real quick. We'll do
thank you.

Speaker 4 (55:23):
Yeah, you could, you could, you could come in and
you can you can take.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
You can take a deep.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
Breath, you know, and uh and have your and where
are you going right away?

Speaker 3 (55:44):
You said, yeah, yeah, I was gonna do it the
sky sky breath. Here you go. That's it, you guys.

Speaker 4 (55:53):
Yeah, So okay, we're gonna we're gonna do it like
three times. We're just gonna show them three times and
then you breathe in and did you breathe out? And
then your your your hands, you can show them how
we're going to do just don't do it yet. Yeah,
we're watching two three, then breathe out the end, out

(56:18):
and out and out.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (56:23):
So we're gonna do it like three or before ten.
Let's do it for okay. Okay, you guys ready set
up straight. You are aligning those those chapper those energies,
and you're breathing in.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
See, we don't breathe properly. That's that's one of the things,
you know, and we don't take enough hunter, So here
we go. So we're.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Hey, breathe in.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
Out yeah yeah, yeah and out and out that's what
in and out, you know. So that felt good right there.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Man, listeners, Ie, we are doing this, don't just watch
and do the that that that this is a participatory session.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
All right, because the next time we come on, we'll
show you how to do the circle breathing. Okay, you'll
be doing the circle breathing, slow circle, and then the
medium circle breathing and then the past.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
Right, which I know is fire. Yeah, that's like the
breath of fire. You know, that's it. Then you go,
you know, we'll go through all them, and you know
there's different stages. It's here and then this, this is
another stage.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Okay, the back.

Speaker 4 (57:53):
Your lungs are near your back too, so you breathe
that way too. So there's a lot of different way
he said. But you go to the breath that's so important.
And fasting. You know, I was going to stay with
but like one just one day or one two or
two days a week, you know, And and I've always

(58:15):
get on clean, don't eat.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
Late at night, clean love. I don't know it was
black people. They love.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
That was either about the darkness and the nighttime because
then and then they late and then you go to sleep.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
On it, man, So try not to eat after the
sun goes down.

Speaker 4 (58:39):
It's called daylight, daylight eating, daylight light eating diet, yeah,
daylight diet.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:46):
If you could do that, and you know, you could
run all your breath exercise and stuff and lately, and
I know it's better if you could get up early.
And they got a book called I think it's five
thirty five thirty, uh, I think five thirty venditation, five

(59:08):
thirty diet or something.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Because you get everything, you get it early, get all
your stuff done early.

Speaker 4 (59:15):
You get your reading twenty minutes for you yourself and studying,
twenty minutes for meditation, and twenty minutes for exercise, right.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
To at least do that before you go out in
the world.

Speaker 4 (59:26):
Correct, Yeah, because you once you get out, you're not
gonna be able to you know, you know, do you
run your routine? You don't want through you're reading, you
don't did your meditation, you did your exercise, you know
for you go out, and you know, did your juicing,
you know, be a be a juice bandit, you know,

(59:49):
just just do that's so important, you know, because those
ensigns go straight into your blood.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
I'll be it all. Yeah, Well I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
I can tell we can go into chapter four and
we're gonna pause because see how fast that hour went?
Did you see that fast? And we're just doing the
little surface, little surface representation. I really would like to
give my most humble, honorable gratitude to both of you

(01:00:24):
for just taking time in the middle of the day
because where you are, we know that you're a few
hours earlier than us, and we're just grateful that you
were able to take a pause in the midst of everything.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
And I know next time you can.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Do all of your regal royal attires. That'll be next time.
But I needed people to just know this is how
we find our sisters. This is how eldresses that lived
the words that you heard every day for decades in
the middle of their workday, this is how they flow.
And I just would like to thank both of you

(01:00:56):
and just say, do our mater. I'm very very grateful.
I'm very very great for having sharing an honor.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
We have more to do. We have more to do.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
I've been we've been working on this for a minute,
so I'm really grateful. Any closing remarks or any any
calls to action you like to give our listeners and.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
Viewers, Well, we have Luciano next week and I'm gonna
if you can tune in, we might live stream it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
And we do reggae music a lot, you know, so
uh and we also do the Girl from Your Island
to desiree if and Midnights.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
You know, we're the ones that brought you know, all
the bond is my son, that's right, mother, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
So we've been doing so us a lot of things
that we do. So tune in to us and take
care of your body just like you tune a fine instrument.
Because when you want to get eighty three, you know
you uh, you know you want to you want to
be moving and around and also what you know, I'm

(01:02:04):
feeling that. Okay, I know you got to go take
care of your knees, your knees, because that's when it
happened when me get older.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
So you saw those knees, and take care of your
knees because they care.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
And you, my sister, give that word. That's right.

Speaker 5 (01:02:22):
And I remember when I was on think how proactive
you were with your diet, and I just want to
say that I was very impressed with the way you
moved and how you ate.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
So I know that you know a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Good thanks, it's honor. You all given a lot of
guidance and for that, I'm eternally grateful. Thank you again,
and thank you so much for being a part of
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