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October 27, 2025 50 mins
"B.A.D.D. 2 BUSINESS"

“B.A.D.D. 2 BUSINESS” is a podcast hosted by Shynen Saffron, with co-host Jazzy Younger, that airs on the Da Crew Podcast network. The show is available on podcast platforms like Audacy and Amazon Music. It is broadcast live on the 2nd Friday and 4th Sunday of each month at 8 PM EST.
  • Name: B.A.D.D. 2 BUSINESS, which stands for “Bring A Diverse Discussion to the Business Table”.
  • Host: Shynen Saffron.
  • Co-host: Jazzy Younger.
  • Network: Da Crew Podcast network.
  • Schedule: 2nd Friday and 4th Sunday of every month at 8 PM EST.
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Speaker 1 (00:32):
Legs and gentlemen, May I have your attention? Legs and gentlemen,

(00:56):
legs and gentlemen, I have your attention please. The show
starts in, say ladies and gentlemen, may I have your attention?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Please?

Speaker 1 (01:23):
The show starts in say life eight seven, six, five,
four three two one go.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Thank you forgetting me together, and I was just bringing
on my special co host so let me reverse that back.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
Let's rewind that back.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Okay, So welcome to another episode of Bad to Business.
I am your host, Shining Saffrun, and I want to
go ahead and bring on my special co hosts just
in case anything else goes left. Hello, Jazzy, thank you
for joining me tonight and making some time for us.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
How are you this evening? Good deal? A good deal?

Speaker 5 (02:31):
Well?

Speaker 3 (02:31):
I am excited about this show. This is a show
that we've kind of put off for a little bit.
We've had some scheduling issues. This is our entrepreneurship show.
As you would guess, a lot of entrepreneurs have a
lot of busy schedules doing different things. So I am
glad to have all the guests tonight, So thank you

(02:52):
for joining us again. This episode about these entrepreneurs is
not only to recognize and commemorate those who shows the
roads less paved, but to also seek some wise counsel
on how to pay the roads of entrepreneurship that lead
to success. So I'm excited about this show to see
what we can see what these entrepreneurship bring to the table.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
How about you, Jess? You excited to have this show finally?

Speaker 6 (03:19):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (03:19):
Yeah, I'm definitely excited. It's one of those episodes we've
been working on for quite a while. Being an entrepreneur myself,
I'm interested to see what they got for us and
how I can learn from it and maybe get that
get everything back on track and start going again.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
And that's what we're hoping to do, try to ignite
some fires and some people, keep some people motivated. So
without further ado, because we don't have a lot of time,
and we want to give these entrepreneurs a lot of
time to or enough time to go ahead and do
what they do. So thank you to all the entrepreneurs
that have shown up. Let me go ahead and introduce them.

(03:56):
First off, let me introduced by the way, Can you
hear me?

Speaker 6 (04:02):
Yeah? I can hear you?

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (04:03):
Did you'll hear me?

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Good?

Speaker 6 (04:06):
How y'all doing all right, cool, cool, good, doing good.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
I want to give you just a moment to go
ahead and introduce yourself and give a brief description of
what you do and what you bring to the business table.

Speaker 6 (04:16):
All right, Well, my name is Cali. Uh.

Speaker 8 (04:19):
What I do is my entrepreneur some my own clothes,
my own clothing brand, So do stuff like that, man.
So that's like my main thing. I also do with
the Frenchies too, Frenchy dogs. But my main thing is clothing.
I got my own clothing line. It's called Block of
It's called Block Offornia. And right now I just dropped
the new brand called Blo Colorado because I'm out here

(04:40):
in Colorado right now, so it just represents represents the
Block the mountains in Colorado.

Speaker 6 (04:46):
So yeah, awesome.

Speaker 8 (04:48):
So and uh yeah, just doing that right now. That's
like my main project that I'm working on right there.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
And the little side Hustle is doing French. She's like here,
that's a good side Hustle.

Speaker 6 (04:59):
I hear it used to be. It used to be.

Speaker 8 (05:03):
Now, just I guess it's just overflooded. Everybody's overbreeding right now.
So I kind of didn't want to do that no
more so, and then you kind of get flat, You
kind of get kind of get a flat for it now.

Speaker 6 (05:14):
People like, oh you bring dogs, Like hey, yeah, so.

Speaker 8 (05:17):
I kind of stopped doing that, just focused more on
my clothing. But my clothes being it's been amazing, man,
been going.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Good for me so.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Well.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
There are there is a big difference between the clothing
line and having a friendshire around the house. So we'll
get more into the details of your business though. Thank
you for joining us. We'll go ahead and bring up
miss Melissa, how are you doing this evening?

Speaker 9 (05:41):
I am amazing. Thank you so much for having me.
I'm really excited for the conversation.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
That's awesome. Thank you so much for joining us.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Why don't you give us a brief description of what
you do before we get into these questions.

Speaker 9 (05:54):
Yeah, so, as you can see by my name there,
I'm a personal brand and messaging strategy. So basically I
help my clients with coming up with their clear messaging
how they're going to position themselves online so that they
can get to their next level of business. And yeah,

(06:14):
it's just it's been great. It's great helping women entrepreneurs
just really know that it's about who they are and
not only just what they do.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Awesome, Okay, we definitely have some questions about that. Ye
see what we can dive into about that. We also
had a special guest, miss Queen Angela, was going to
join us and tell us a little bit about what
she does. Miss Queen, are you going to join us
this evening? I think I see that she did tap in.
I don't know if she's going to be able to
answer some questions for us, Queen, are you there.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
All right?

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Well, if she's able to tap in, we'll get her
questions and ask her some things too clean you there, okay,
So again we'll get to her. But so we want
to go ahead and move on, like I said, and
give you got.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
A chance to answer some of these questions.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
We're hoping that you are people to, like we said,
ignite some fires and some people. And I know, entrepreneurship
get hard, especially in changing in this changing world, changing
and challenging. So, like Jaz said, like herself, trying to
get back on something, sometimes it's hard to just get
back on that horse falling off or after you just decided,

(07:29):
you know, maybe horse racking wasn't for you, giving up
a little bit, so I hope that you guys didn't
help us do that. So without further ado, I'm going
to get on to the first question. The first question
I have CALLI.

Speaker 6 (07:43):
Yes, Kelly, thank you.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
So what inspired you to start your business and how
did you identify it was a good time to do
so in the market?

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Status?

Speaker 6 (07:56):
Oh so made me start my business?

Speaker 8 (07:58):
Actually just made a shirt one day for my basketball team,
and then everybody just liked it. I was probably like
I don't I say, like thirteen, fourteen years old, and
it just took off after that. I just start just
having these ideas, like I would see shirts, you know
what I mean, people wearing them, and then I'd be like,
you know what, I could do that, and I just
start trying to make my little version of it. And

(08:21):
then when I when I got in my twenties, I
kind of start taking it serious. That's when I came
up on my logo. I came up with my own
name like this, that Blackifornia name, and I just been
running and I just been running with it ever since,
like just going ahead, and I think already.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
In Colorado when you came up.

Speaker 6 (08:40):
With that to kind of now I've been doing this.

Speaker 8 (08:43):
I was in California, like when I, like I said,
when I was a teenager. I've been doing this since
I was a teenager. So as soon as I got
probably like seventeen, that's when I took it like like serious,
start making it for people, like in my neighborhood.

Speaker 6 (08:57):
Or it sounds crazy, but I used to be like
in trap houses.

Speaker 8 (09:00):
And I would have my clothes just hung up, and
then people would come in and I was like, you know, take.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
This out like barbershops, barbershops.

Speaker 8 (09:10):
You know, yeah, I would just I was just trying
to get barbershops. So I was just trying to get
it in where I fit in, you know, I mean,
just trying to get that word out there. Because I
knew the name. I knew the name of I knew
the name was catching. I just had to market it
the right way. I just knew my idea was good.
I just had to market it the right way.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
And when did you find the right time to market? What?

Speaker 3 (09:37):
What was the status? And I know you said you
just kind of went with an idea. Was it just
that you just, hey, I'm just gonna try something, or
did you kind of see that it was a good
time to you know, kind of French out there.

Speaker 6 (09:49):
It was good in California.

Speaker 8 (09:51):
Like I said, I was doing out there, and then
as soon as I moved to Miami, like I was,
kind I was doing music at the same time, so
I kind of started branding my music with the clothes.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
But Miami at that time was just like the hot spot.

Speaker 8 (10:03):
Everybody wanted to come to Miami, So I just knew
that was the time to do it because it was
people from Canada, people from Cali, New York, Jamaica, everybody
was coming to Miami at the time when I was
out there, So I just knew, all right, I could
just hit this market right here on South Beach and
they would just spread.

Speaker 6 (10:21):
And that's exactly what happened.

Speaker 8 (10:22):
I was giving my shirts to homeless people, I was
giving to everybody, and everybody was just wearing every every
artist that came out there, every singer came out there,
I was just giving them shirts and they was just
wearing them. So that kind of it kind of just
took off for me after that.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
So the right market for you was basically just finding
out where the crowd was at the time. Well, what
was the getting on the scene. Yeah, all right, I
think I seen as Angela. Queen Angela tap in. Are
you there in Queen, I can't hear you now?

Speaker 4 (10:54):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Perfect, awesome, great to have you on. Well, miss Queen,
we missed your introduction. Do you mind just telling us
your name in a brief description before we get into
your questions?

Speaker 10 (11:27):
Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
So we got Queen Angela in there, and she wears
many hats, and I know from personal experience too, that
that is why you're called Queen Angela aka also known
as Queen a collaboration. She rubs many so she has
earned every gym in her crown. Okay, So if you needed,
she know how to get it if she don't already

(12:07):
have it. Okay, So thank you for joining us this evening.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
We'll move on.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
I guess we'll move on to to Queen's question. So
that's awesome. I'm glad she's joining us. Do as you
want to go on with Mss Queen.

Speaker 7 (12:19):
Yeah, I'm glad that she was able to tappen because
with her description, that actually brings me to one of
the questions that I had for her, which is, how
do you stay innovative while trying to adapt to changing
trends and customer needs with what you do.

Speaker 11 (12:42):
M ah hah hah yeah, h mm hm m hm

(14:12):
h m hm.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
Definitely definitely uh huh mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
Mum hum.

Speaker 12 (14:42):
Definitely that it.

Speaker 7 (14:46):
Sure it does. Definitely did.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Being adaptive was number one, uh, the key thing in COVID,
So being adaptive in all those situations, you know, congratulations
to those who did still thrive. All right, miss Melissa,
I've got one for you. What leadership qualities do you
feel are important to possess while building a business or brand?

(15:14):
Which I feel like you know, that's a good question
for you since you work with different clients.

Speaker 9 (15:19):
Yeah, definitely. One of the best and the major leadership
qualities that entrepreneurs should have is definitely being a decision
maker and an action taker. So a lot of people
get stuck in that hamster wheel of overthinking and they're like,
should I do this? Should I do that? I can

(15:41):
do this because, like the Queen was saying, we have
so many skills, we have so many talents, we have
so many things that we can do, and sometimes it's
just about saying, you know what, instead of me trying
to do all the things, what is that one thing
that I can just put my focus on right now,
make a decision and then take those steps forward, because

(16:04):
clarity comes from taking action. You don't know if you're
good at something. You don't know if you know something's
gonna work unless you make a decision and then you
go for it. So definitely, being a decision maker an
action taker is definitely something. You have to have a
leadership quality. And you know, I see myself more when

(16:26):
I'm with my clients is I'm like a wolf pack leader.
And so a wolf pack leader actually leads at the back.
They're not at the front of the pack. They're the
last person in the back because not only can they
see what's happening in the back, they can see what's
happening on the sides what's happening in front. And being
a leader doesn't mean you know all the like all

(16:48):
the eyes have to be on you. You have to
be able to see things from different angles, like I said,
to make the best decision for your business, for your brand,
so that you can move forward and build the momentum
and multiply like like you want to.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
That's good. That's good. I like the wolf That's something that.

Speaker 7 (17:11):
Yeah, well, well I was just gonna say since we
were talking about the wolf Cape, the wolf Pack and
you know, everything like that, and having to have those
different eyes if you will, on everything. That actually leads

(17:31):
me into the question that I got for Cali, like
what strategy is when you would move out to Miami
and you know, every after everything you had done, what
strategies did you find work best to help you grow
your business?

Speaker 8 (17:44):
So even back then before the Internet, and even now,
I think it's coming back just showing your face more
out out in the public because everybody could be in
the Internet and everybody could judge you off that. But
sometimes when you meet people face the face, you shake
their hands, how they say, kissing, taking hands and kissing babies,
presidential stuff.

Speaker 6 (18:05):
Just doing stuff like that because I'm good at that.
I'm good at talking to people.

Speaker 8 (18:09):
Networking, so I guess like hitting little network parties and
stuff like that. Still getting your face out there, just
like it's just like if it was campaigning for like
the state mayor or something like that. You know, I
just want to get your face out there because sometimes
people by the face and by the attitude more than
the brand. And then sometimes it's vice versa. I don't
like you, but they like the brand, So I think

(18:30):
I sell more like doing that just networking with people.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah, personality definitely sells. I know they say other things sell,
you know, but personality definitely sells. I know Jesse and
I have talked about even in the workplace, how I
don't you know even in emails. Emails can get a
little heated. I do about two emails if we go
back and forth, I'm picking up the phone.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
Well.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Another reason for that, though, is because because as my customer,
you can't hear how urgent I am working for you,
how hard I'm working for you. When I say, oh
I'm pissed off to or yes I do understand, you
can't really understand that through text message. That's why they
call me the emoji queen. I use a lot of
emotions to feel what I'm saying. But it is something

(19:19):
about being more personable to somebody and they can feel
what you're doing versus that you're just trying to sell
them something. So say personable is very serious. So that's
that's that's awesome.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
And yes, m m hm mm hmm.

Speaker 12 (20:00):
Hmm, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Mm hmm, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 (20:32):
And I think that's a lot. Like I said, it's
a lost I think it's a lost art now. Like
you said, everybody got so comfortable with the Internet, they
forgot about going outside because of COVID and everything.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
Like how you they don't want to interact with right now.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Doing that right now?

Speaker 5 (20:46):
Yeah, yeah, with.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Everything, you got to take the good with the bad.
COVID showed us the good with the bad.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
Now.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
I will say this, even to you both that said,
you know, even being personable and how just being you know,
the person can say ill, there are some instances where
that's a gift and a curse because we all know
of some artists that are just a household name, and
like she just said, they can sell something that don't
say nothing just because it's their name.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
You're gonna buy it. That's not always the best thing.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
So but but on the flip side, I can say
it's because of the impression that they've left on people
from whatever they've put out before, or whatever they shook
hand and kissed some babies, you know, whatever they've done before.
And we as we all know first impressions or lasting impressions.
So from whatever they've done before, I'm just saying, just
make sure that whatever name you leave in left a

(21:40):
good impression already.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Okay, And even with that being said.

Speaker 9 (21:45):
That's building a person. Well, I was just gonna say,
that's a personal brand right there. It's it's your reputation.
It's like what people think and feel about you, and
so like it makes sense that you know, whatever you do,
if someone's got a connection with you, someone loves your mission,
your vision, they see where you're going, they like your personality. Yeah,

(22:06):
they'll support you, they get behind you. So yeah, it's
really important nowadays to like know and be conscious of
that because we were shut down and locked in for
so long. People do want to get out and meet
poor people and build more communities and build bigger communities
and make movements and yeah, and it's really important to
do that.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
They want to see real people doing real things. AI
is doing a lot so to see real people And
that's a whole other show.

Speaker 13 (22:37):
We'll really everybody on the panel.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
But and that's some good advice that everybody is given
being personable and stuff. And one of the other key
points is people don't really remember what you do, but
how you made them feel. So they'll probably follow you
to do anything because they know what type of person
you are. So those are some good key advices advice
to give to some people. And while we're talking about advice,
Ms Queen, let me.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
Ask you this question.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
What is the best advice or just just some really
good advice that you could give anyone starting their first
business or their brand. We've heard some good points, but
what is like some of the best advice you could
give them to to get started.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
H mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
That's good. A lot of people are a little afraid
to do that, you know that.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
I think one of the conversations Queen and I have
had before and we were talking about success, and she
said one thing that and it's something that I'll keep
forever even if you don't know, If you don't know that,
I took that away in my spirit. But she said
to me, a lot of people know what it feels
like to fail, so you know that they're okay with
that a little bit. But a lot of people are

(24:09):
afraid of success because they don't know how that feels.
So don't be agreed to succeed just because you don't
know how that feels. I mean, and I feel like
this even when she said that, I mean, it had
to you know, marinate in my spirit like neck bone
juice for a little bit. But even after that, it
was kind of like, if you already know what fail
your feels like, why not go for success? I mean that,

(24:31):
you know, if you already know what fail your feels like,
you know, so don't be afraid to go for that.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
So that's some really good advice. Jazz, you got a
question for somebody?

Speaker 9 (24:41):
Oh yeah, I got Sorry, no, God, can I can
I just add to that because it's and I just
came across this recently where somebody was hesitant to start
their business and people will like kind of say, oh,
because they've never got to success because they never had
that desire in that heart to try something. You're also

(25:04):
dealing with the negativity of other people who haven't been there,
who haven't been willing to take the risk, and you're
looking at them saying should I do this, and not
their vision. They don't see where you're going, they don't
have the heart for what you have, and they're like, oh,
I don't know if you should do that. The market
saturated and this and that. It's like it's on your heart,

(25:25):
you get exactly, and it's like if you have something
on your heart to do. It's there for a reason
and you should go for it.

Speaker 8 (25:33):
And I think it's the number one thing too, like that,
the passion for doing it too. It If you're doing
it just for money, you're gonna fail, you know what
I mean. You got to have a passion in what
you're doing. Yes, are you not just going to follow
through your dream or it's just going to feel like
a job.

Speaker 6 (25:46):
It's going to feel like a tedious thing, you know,
like you got to love what you do. So it's
do what you're saying.

Speaker 14 (26:01):
Y hmm ye, look at.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
H m hm.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
No never never.

Speaker 14 (27:09):
Yeah, yeah, by violent purple and violent.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
Purple and violate is closed. It's close, but it ain't the.

Speaker 12 (27:18):
Same thing, right, keep it.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
Yeah, and what they see.

Speaker 8 (27:37):
Yeah, And sometimes it's sometimes it's a time. Sometimes it's
a timing thing. Like you said, it may not be
your time. It's God wouldn't went on your time, you
know what I mean, Just like my clothes. I've been
doing this for so long. It's just I have waves.
Sometime I'm hit and it sometimes it's nothing. But right now,
God's just letting me hit. I'm on all cylinders.

Speaker 6 (27:59):
It's a time sometime, you know, I mean, we've talked.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
About that being being anointed but not yet appointed. So
you're still there.

Speaker 6 (28:09):
They just they't called your number of yet. You in
the lobby, the lobby, you in the right place. It's
just not your time yet, all right.

Speaker 15 (28:25):
Yeah, yeah, that comes back to that.

Speaker 7 (28:37):
Will Well, Oh I sure do. I was gonna ask
Melissa because that kind of brings us into what we
were just talking about with just taking that like with
Queen Angelis at taking that risk, taking that leap of
faith in some things. Have you seen, Melissa, any common

(28:58):
mistakes that nor is me with the progress and the process.

Speaker 9 (29:06):
When they're first starting, like when they're first starting.

Speaker 7 (29:09):
Yeah, like whatever, Yeah, any common mistakes were first trying
to get started.

Speaker 9 (29:14):
Yeah. One thing that I see a lot of people
do is kind of in line with what we're saying
now is they're trying to do everything because they think
they need to do everything. And sometimes it's like they're
doing things because like oh I should be doing this,
I should be doing that, I have this skill, I

(29:36):
have that skill. But it's because you have the skill
or you have the the know how how to do something,
does it mean that you were called to do maybe
something to do that maybe something in that skill will
help you. But it's about knowing what am I here
to do? What is my purpose? My calling? Like what
is it that I have on my heart to do?

(29:57):
Because like we're saying, you look around and you're seeing
this person doing this, you might get influenced that you
need to do it too, but you really have to
say true to what it is that you're here to do.
And something that I say is be a voice and
not an echo. You know, like you have a voice,
you have a message, you have a mission, you have
a vision. Don't like be looking and seeing what other

(30:20):
people are doing, because you're just going to be. You know,
like a copy is never as good as the original.
So be the original that you were created to be.
And so so yeah, don't try to be everything, don't
try to do everything. And set boundaries. That's another thing,
like you don't have to be a doormat and you know,

(30:44):
like fall over at everyone's feet. Set your boundaries even
with yourself. Set your boundaries whether it's like time or
energy or projects. Like just be focused, be fully focused.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Sure, definitely, Like Queen was just saying, you gotta find
your niche and keep it there staying your lane. I
had one of my old bosses tell me because I
used to run around trying to start everything and probably
finish nothing. But one of the things that he taught me,
he said, you know, shining, you got to slow down,
he said, because if you're everywhere, you're nowhere. And I

(31:21):
mean when he said it, I didn't catch it because
I was probably zooming in and out of the office
when he said it. But you know, as it later
caught up with me in life and again, just like
Queen's talking to me after it marinated, I kind of
understood that if you're everywhere, you're nowhere, what are you
focused on so that you can complete it and be
successful in that Because if you're everywhere, you're not solidly anywhere,

(31:42):
You're not focused on anything.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
If you're everywhere.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Yes, So that was good, awesome, Thank you for that. Well,
Jazz and I have gotten a lot of information from
you all, but there is one question we've been holding off.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
We've saved the best for last drum roll and all that.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
We wanted to know from all of you, and we'll
go from Cali to Queen to Melissa. What are your
biggest fails or setbacks? During your process, and what did
you learn from them?

Speaker 5 (32:19):
What has been?

Speaker 4 (32:20):
What has been if they're still going on?

Speaker 3 (32:23):
I mean, I know we got to keep learning, but
what has been or what are your biggest fails?

Speaker 8 (32:28):
I guess during COVID because I couldn't order no clothes
because I was ordered closed from overseas, So I kind
of learned a lesson from that.

Speaker 6 (32:38):
But even if I would have ordered.

Speaker 8 (32:39):
I guess in town still during COVID, stuff is still
kind of messed up. So like that, I don't know
that that kind of hurt me, like big time. So
I didn't know what to do during COVID for a
whole year. So like that was like my biggest fail
during COVID. But I hate using COVID as an excuse,
like because of COVID?

Speaker 3 (33:01):
Can I call that? Can I call that procrastinature? A
little bit like do you see if you would have
pre order because you saw a good thing happening for.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
You, you didn't jump.

Speaker 6 (33:10):
I just didn't know.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
And then when it was out of time, it was
just what I was.

Speaker 6 (33:15):
I was moving a lot at that time. Well I was.

Speaker 8 (33:19):
Moving a lot at that time, so and then I
didn't have my store, so I was going from DC
to Colorado. I was coming back and forth, and I
didn't know what I really wanted to do at that time.
Like I know, I was wanted to do clothes, but
I was just stuck. I was just stuck. So I just, yeah,
I was just procrastinating. I was everywhere but nowhere exactly.

(33:44):
So that's my biggest fail. I just I guess I
just gave up. I guess, man because of COVID, But
I hate saying that because of COVID.

Speaker 6 (33:52):
Because of COVID, but but I gave it.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
You need something to blame. That's everybody, everybody.

Speaker 7 (34:00):
It doesn't happen to be during that time.

Speaker 6 (34:03):
I guess.

Speaker 13 (34:04):
I mean, well, let's.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Let's let's try to flip that a little bit. If
COVID hadn't happened, what what would you see in your
processes of being an entrepreneur would be one of the
biggest fails that you saw that you you even set
yourself up, like you know, they say, don't set yourself
up for failure, But what did you see that you
maybe could have prevented something like that?

Speaker 8 (34:22):
So I so that was my biggest feel. But then
I've had fails like right, before that or right right
after that. So like i'd buy like the like A close,
I think that's nice. I think that's cool, and then
I buy it and it just sits there just you
know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (34:36):
On the rack, nobody buys it. Nobody assisted.

Speaker 8 (34:40):
So I didn't have ideas that failed before, you know
what I mean. But then that's where you gotta come.
You got to keep coming, stay consistent, stay consistent.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah, that's what that's.

Speaker 8 (34:50):
When those become promos and freebie shirts, the ones that
don't sell, give them out for free, give give them
out to homeless people, give up to rappers, give back
to influencers.

Speaker 6 (35:00):
Just give them out.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Man.

Speaker 8 (35:01):
Hopefully the next idea hit and they'd be like, oh
I remember that name that Oh you had a different
logo this time.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (35:09):
So I kind of take my fails as as less.

Speaker 8 (35:12):
I just take my fails as less as I like
failing sometimes because I'd be Okay, I'll come back from that,
because I love.

Speaker 6 (35:18):
Proving people wrong. I love doing that.

Speaker 8 (35:20):
That's like my goal to Like if it failed and
people were like I told you it's gonna fail, like all.

Speaker 6 (35:26):
Right, cool, that wouldn't fail.

Speaker 8 (35:27):
But I got more back here hold on, buddy, let
me bring this one to fouth.

Speaker 6 (35:31):
So so I love that.

Speaker 8 (35:34):
Yeah, I'm a grind, I'm a hustler, so I mean
I've been at the bottom. So anyway, I can't go
nowhere else but up.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
Just to follow up with that, in touch on that
before we move on.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
I know, I just wanted to commend you, Cally, because
I know recently you had your account hacked and.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
Somebody tried to do something.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
And I'm telling somebody I saluted you because you were like,
you know what, you can keep those followers and those likes,
I'll rebuild them.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
And I was telling her, I said, you know that.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
I mean, it's not about those followers and stuff like that,
but I know that it took you time to brand yourself,
get out there, reach certain people, and do certain things
like that, and to just give it all up and say,
not only can you keep them, but I'll double that
by next week or you know, and have that confidence in.

Speaker 8 (36:15):
Yourself because I mean, I get to meet new people,
like y'all, build a new fan base.

Speaker 6 (36:19):
Meeting new people.

Speaker 8 (36:20):
Now I gotta go out shake hands and kissed babies again,
you know what I.

Speaker 6 (36:23):
Mean, just just new people. This time, just newer people. So,
like I said, I love the grind.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
I like that, bro.

Speaker 8 (36:31):
It just made me grind harder, made me still my
grind man. So when that happened, actually, like I said,
it just made it just motivated me, like, man, watch this,
I'm approving, like, oh you did that, watch this. I'm
gonna do it again. I'm gonna double up on it
and I'm gonna pass you.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
So did it.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Before I can do it again?

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Yeah, act, well, I'm glad those people followed you back
and again it goes back to not not just what
you do, but it's how you made them feel, how
you were out there personable, being diplomatic and giving some
stuff away. So facts we appreciate y'all hearing the streets queen,
I'll ask you the same question. What was what has
been one of your biggest feels or setbacks during your process?

Speaker 4 (37:08):
And then how did you learn from that?

Speaker 5 (37:12):
Yeah? Yeah, yeahm.

Speaker 16 (37:43):
Mm hmm, yeah, h.

Speaker 8 (38:16):
Mm hmm mm hmm, yep, yep, yep. It's more organic

(38:37):
to you now, huh. It's it feels more organic to
you now. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
M hm.

Speaker 16 (38:44):
H m hmmm mm hm h m hmmm.

Speaker 5 (39:02):
Ah oh four ye uh huh.

Speaker 16 (40:06):
H mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Well, h.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Definitely those are definitely stepping stones. That was a that
was a good you stepped back a little bit, but
you you did some good step forward, So that's awesome.

Speaker 13 (40:24):
Who you kept it going?

Speaker 4 (40:26):
How about you, Melissa?

Speaker 9 (40:29):
So it's God is again. It's funny how my step
back is similar to Kelly and to Queen as well. Well,
it's like I hacked. I essentially hacked myself in some ways,

(40:50):
and so I I kind of got to a point
where I just like really became strong in my faith
and I didn't think I would actually do my business anymore.
So I actually shut everything down. I closed everything, and
I stopped doing my business for a whole year because
I thought, you know, I was going to do something else.
And then I just really felt strongly like, no, there's

(41:13):
people out there that you need to help. There's people
out there who just need to know that they their
message matters, you know, like they have something to say
and they should be heard. There's people out there waiting
to hear them. And so yeah, so essentially the same

(41:33):
thing too, I had like a bigger account. I shut
it down. But what happened was my business became an idol,
and I forgot who I was, And so it took
taking that step back and seeing like, is this really
what I'm called to do? Is this really what I
have in my heart to do? Is this what God's

(41:54):
been telling me? Is this what God's showing me? And
just being led back to Yeah, but this time it's
with him first of all. This time, I know who
I am, and I know that who I am is
more important than what I do, because like we said before,
there's so many people who are like strategists and coaches
and have all kinds of things, but nobody has our story,

(42:17):
nobody has our message, nobody has our experience, and our
life is a lesson for us, but it could be
life to somebody else. You know, our story, what the
things that we go through, the trials, the ups and downs.
It's like we're here to help each other. We're here.
We were created for community. We were created to help

(42:39):
each other, support each other. And the way that we
love each other is with our businesses and bringing people
up and making people you know, feel good or whatever
it is, whatever it is that we're called to do.
And so so now coming back it's like coming back
with a fresh perspective, coming back with love in my heart,

(43:00):
coming back with a desire really to help people, Like
my focus is not what can I get, but what
can I give? And and so that's that's like a
big that was like a big key for me. It
took a step back, but with God, you know, you
take one step, he takes two.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
So yeah, well that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
And like I said, a lot of the setbacks were
actually set ups, it sounds like for all of you.
And that's that's usually the floor plan to those who persist,
those who actually step out on the dance floor. So
I really hope that helps some people who needed that motivation,
that extra push to kind of keep going. We did

(43:47):
learn with all of you that although weapons may form,
they did not prosper. So but you're here to tell
that story because you kept going, yep. And I think
that that's something that we did gain from all of
you in this conversation is that you did have some
things that kind of pushed you back, but you kept
going and that's why you are here today to tell

(44:09):
this story. So we appreciate all of you and what
you have brought to the business table. And one thing
that I did like go ahead.

Speaker 9 (44:17):
I'm sorry, Oh sorry, I was just gonna say a
setback is just a setup for a comeback.

Speaker 8 (44:22):
So.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Yeah, and you got to be willing and have that
passion to come back so that he can work with that. So,
like I said, I want to thank all of you
because I think one of the things that entrepreneurs need
to hear as far as how to be successful is
keep going, find your niche be unique.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
Do you there are?

Speaker 3 (44:46):
And like Queen pointed out, there are different there are
same occupations but different people doing it.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
So it's always gonna.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
Be something different brought to the table about it if
you think about it, And that's what we're trying to do,
and that's what bad to Business is about.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
Out.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
We've all come to the business table with different perspectives,
but we all managed to find the same common ground.
So if you think about a company, everybody's different and
they work for the same company and they all have
different perspectives. So just because you work for the same
company do the same thing. You all work in accounting,
but you all have a different way of doing something
and making that business thrive. So again, we just want

(45:22):
to thank you guys for coming on the show. I
see we've gone a little bit over time, but it
was well worth it. Well yes, I said, waiting took
this show. We've had some entrepreneurs that didn't get to join.
But this is just volume one. We will follow up
with that and we'd love to do a follow up
show with.

Speaker 13 (45:39):
You all in the future.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
See how your business is doing, and see how things
are going, see if we can ask some more questions,
maybe some follow up questions, and see how things have
changed in the market or with your business, or if
there's any way that you can reach out and help somebody,
that'd be great. What I love about you all, you entrepreneurs,
is that you have found a way or at somehow,
some way before you became successful, or even in your success,

(46:01):
have found a way to reach back and bring some
people back with you, like Melissa and I was talking about,
and I'll tell anybody listening, we're trying to reverse that
crab mentality. Instead of you know, bringing people down, we
want to bring them up, you know, so reach one,
teach many.

Speaker 4 (46:17):
So again, thank you all for tuning in. I am
your host, Shining Saffron.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
We will be following up with follow information so you
can follow, Uh Cali, you want to go ahead and
give your follow information.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
Let's round that up like that.

Speaker 6 (46:29):
Uh, you can go ahead reach me. Uh I guess
block Offornia.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Look there you go.

Speaker 6 (46:34):
This my uh my logo block Offornia.

Speaker 8 (46:36):
Just Google Block Offornia everything a pop up, my Instagram,
my family everything, man, do nice and quick.

Speaker 6 (46:45):
One more time, one more time for you, and uh,
we definitely.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
Want to support you.

Speaker 6 (46:52):
Thank y'all appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (46:52):
And I just want to say, uh, speaking of giving back,
like with your product, I got this project I just
did call Blocorado while worked with all the top artists
out here and I put a mixtape the other for them,
like I sponsored them with all my clothes and everything.
So just like you said, just bringing people together and
nobody's never done that in the whole state of Colorado before.
So kind of make history with my brand being an

(47:15):
entrepreneur when I close the brand bringing something together like this,
So stay.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Tuned for that.

Speaker 6 (47:21):
If you hear black Parade, that came from me, all right,
and we're gonna.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
Keep on promoting it so that they know where it
came from.

Speaker 6 (47:28):
You heard it here first for sure, for sure.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
Queen Pine, How can we follow you and some of
the things that you do.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
I saw that.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
I saw that, but we got that when we played
the replays that we have to right, we all heard.

Speaker 13 (47:52):
You though, man, yes she is, yes, yes, thank you, thanks.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
All right, and we will be promoting that and following up.
And she does published a lot of books. This queen
has a lot of great things to say, so always
like following up with her next one. Thank you queen
for joining us. MS Melissa, how can we follow up
with you on some of.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
The things you do?

Speaker 9 (49:00):
Yeah, So I'm also on all the platforms, so it
would be the I'll put a little thing up here,
melissam On.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
We do it like, let me tell you something.

Speaker 9 (49:17):
Because I'm like how people just see it really clearly.
Yeh yeah, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, LinkedIn, it's all the same,
the melissam On and and I have my own on
the Yeah, so it's just my name, Thelisa On and

(49:41):
I have a podcast coming up soon too. It's called
The Brand Bridge, and so I'm gonna be talking about branding, faith,
entrepreneurship and yeah, that's going to be coming out to soon.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
Awesome, Awesome, I can't wait to follow up with that.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Well, I wanna again, thank you, all of you exceptional entrepreneurs.
And I call you yet because again, it seemed like
at some point in time you made time to make
a space for others to grow.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
You reached back and got some other people.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
And that's what seems to be a root of your success,
not only the passion to keep going, but making sure
that people were able to keep going with you.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
So we salute you all. Thank you for joining us again.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
I am your host Bran, my co host Jazzy, thank
you for joining us for Bad to Business.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
We'll see you next time.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Have a good namele
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