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September 23, 2025 53 mins
“Sacred Seeds” refers to the anthology Sacred Seeds of Wisdom: Things That Every Black and Brown Woman Need To Know, co-authored and envisioned by Dr. Carolyn Stephens, published in 2025, which aims to empower Black and Brown women with profound messages for thriving. The book is a faith-based collection of diverse voices, offering wisdom, inspiration, and practical tools for personal growth and healing.Key Aspects of the Book:
  • Author:Dr. Carolyn Stephens is a family therapist, licensed Christian therapist, and best-selling author who served as the visionary and co-author of the anthology.
  • Purpose:The book is designed to inspire, empower, and uplift women of color, helping them to reconnect with their purpose and thrive in life.
  • Content:It features contributions from several co-authors, including Triveda Harris, Sophonna Sheppard, and LaTanya R. Woodson, who share their insights and experiences.
  • Themes:The work focuses on themes of wisdom, empowerment, personal growth, and faith-based principles to help women heal and reconnect with their destinies.
  • Publication:The book was a newly released project as of May 2025.

  • Patrice Grimball, also known as "SC BookGal," hosts the SC BookGal & Friends podcast on the Da Crew Podcast network. The show features author interviews, book reviews, and reading lists, with a focus on promoting diverse, independent, and emerging authors. 
    Key details about the show:
    • Host: Patrice Grimball is a literary advocate and librarian specialist from Charleston, South Carolina.
    • Airs: It broadcasts live on the Da Crew Podcast network every 1st through 4th Tuesday.
    • Available on: You can find replays of episodes on platforms such as iHeartRadio, Spreaker, Spotify, and Audacy.
    • Purpose: The podcast provides a platform for aspiring and independent authors to promote their work and connect with new readers. 


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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Ladies and gentlemen, I have your attention.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Please.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
The show starts in ten eight seven, six, five four
three two one go.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Hey everyone, this is your girl Ssie book out eight
four three patrees crumble and you do guys know it
is Tuesday night. It is time for a new book
and a new author. So ladies, this book, I.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Would say, it's for us.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
Okay, were black and brown women.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
We are going through some.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Stuff right now, and yesterday we had some ladies that
came on that share their book that give us a
little hope to hang on through everything that's going through.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
It has me on the screen. Okay, y'all.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
I'm not sure what's going on with Patreth. She was
in the studio, not sure what happen, but she has
an amazing guest here with us tonight, so I don't
see if we can get her back in the studio.
But meanwhile, gonna go ahead and bring up her guests,
and we're gonna jump on in the conversation. Y'all know

(03:14):
how we do, because y'all know, time to time things happen,
but we don't stop. We keep it pushing. So I
am going to bring up our guests, and of course
I am the visionary Angela for those that do not know.
Sometime I have to jump on. But let me bring
up the guests for tonight. She's been on the platform

(03:37):
before doing some amazing things. Of course, I can never,
I can never, never give our guests the right introduction.
So guess what, I'm just gonna move on out the
way and allow her to introduce herself. So let me
move and let me bring her own up. Welcome, doctor Stevens.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
How are you? I am doing fantabulous.

Speaker 6 (04:03):
I am always excited to be on air and to
be on this platform, which this feels like home for me,
and so yes, I am super excited about being here
with sister Patrice, and I know that she'll be coming
back to be with us. Hey, I'm looking forward to

(04:26):
this experience.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
Of course, I'm sure she has a lot of questions
that she wants to ask. But if you would please
introduce yourself to those that may not know you. Of course,
Patresea's show is about author, so you know she has
to be an amazing author to be sitting in this
hot seat tonight. So if you would just introduce yourself

(04:52):
to those that may not know you, sure.

Speaker 6 (04:55):
Well, good evening to everyone who is watching with us
live and those who are going to watch us on
the replay. My name is doctor Carolyn Stevens and I
am currently the CEO of the Black House Media Group.
I also serve as a clinical mental health therapist here

(05:19):
in Atlanta, Georgia. I am a best selling author as
well as a publishing consultant and so absolutely love love,
love writing books. I love authors. Authoring is my passion.
Helping and working and networking with authors is next to

(05:41):
therapy is my passion as well.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
So I'm originally from Brooklyn, New York.

Speaker 6 (05:50):
Here but here now I've been in Atlanta for I'm
probably a little over thirty years. So this is Patrice.
I guess I'm I'm no longer an apple maybe now
I'm a peach since here in Atlanta. Wow, But I
am still a Brooklyn girl in my heart of heart.

(06:10):
So that's a little bit about me.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
So let me ask you a question. Do you prefer
to be the apple or the peach?

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (06:19):
Wow, you asked a good question. Nobody has ever asked me.
I'm gonna say that I would prefer to be the
apple because my Brooklyn roots run real deep, and you know,
since I've been here in Georgia for quite some time,
somewhat lost a little bit of my Brooklyn accent. But

(06:42):
there are words that I say, like, for example, I
say coffee.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
See that's like a Brooklyn thing.

Speaker 6 (06:49):
We say coffee, but in Georgia they say coffee, but
we say for you know, we say I'm going to
the mall.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
You know.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
So that's so some things I said.

Speaker 6 (07:01):
Still, you can people can tell, hey, you must be
from up North Gown. So I guess again, I'm an
apple in my heart. Okay, Okay, there ain't nothing wrong
with that. But now you're you're okay.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
But well before I can say you're a true Southerner,
how do you like your grits?

Speaker 2 (07:24):
You like salt and sugar?

Speaker 6 (07:27):
Well, I think true Southerners put sugar in it. But
I like salt in my grits. Okay, I think, I think, yeah,
I think true Southerners like sugar in their grits. If
I'm not mistaken, because I got friends that eat it.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Is that about right? Okay? And Chasten is kind of
like a mixture.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Now I'm a salt girl. I can't do the sugar
on the grits. I never understood that, but to.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Eat just me.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
So what drawll you to that love that you have
for authors and being an author yourself?

Speaker 2 (08:06):
What drew you to that? Well, what drew me.

Speaker 6 (08:12):
To my love of authors, which is why I don't
promote myself as a publisher but a publishing consultant, basically
meaning that I help authors to build their author platform.
Not necessarily mean we can publish books, but primarily the
bulk of my job as a consultant is to help

(08:34):
authors build a platform, which part of their platform is
that they happen to have a book. And what drew
me into that I've always loved authors, but I drew
on my own experiences as a first time author and
a lot of the challenges that I had, questions that

(08:55):
I could not get answered, a little bit of money
that I spent that I didn't want to spend that
I should not have spent, but I didn't know any better.
So on my journey of not knowing, you know, I
developed some knowledge and some skills and actually, Patrius, you know,

(09:17):
I'm part of a couple of authors groups. People were
just asking me questions, I mean, really like, how do
I do that?

Speaker 2 (09:24):
What do I do?

Speaker 5 (09:25):
What?

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Do I do? What do I do?

Speaker 6 (09:27):
And beknownst to me, I had no idea that God
was helping me to build a platform.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
I just wanted to help people and help.

Speaker 6 (09:36):
Authors so they wouldn't have to spend a whole lot
of unnecessary money and time. And then they produced beautiful
books and they weren't selling them. So God for me,
He built that platform for me. So really it was
out of my own love for not wanting to see,
especially our people know, become misguided in their journey, especially

(10:03):
as first time author.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Okay, so if you can give one piece of advice
for a new author, what would that one piece of
advice be?

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Oh? Boy, because I got so many, but what would
the one What would the one piece of advice be?

Speaker 6 (10:27):
So I say this because I work with self published
authors and I'm a self published author, But what the
one piece of advice I would give even though you're
a self published author.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Don't work alone? Just don't work. Don't don't work alone.

Speaker 6 (10:43):
At least support people or somebody you trust to advise
you while you're on your journey.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
But don't be self published.

Speaker 6 (10:53):
That is okay, Just don't work alone and know that
you are not alone. That you're now won build a
support team around yourself, you know, because your.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Book is your baby. That's your baby, you know.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
You know, as a child, you got that village mentality
somebody when you're sleeping, they you know, taking care of
the baby somebody.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
I understand that that makes a lot of sense. So
that would be my advice I will give.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
So you have this wonderful book that came out early
this year called Sacred Seeds of wants them things that
every black and brown woman.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Need to know.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
Tell us a little bit about this book, Oh my goodness.

Speaker 6 (11:39):
And I got the book here and since a patrice
you know what I failed to do. So, but I
need to get your address so I can send you
a copy. I want you to have you I want
you to have your own copy. I try to make
sure that I remember to do that when people so
graciously have me on their platforms, because it's an honored

(12:00):
Here our Sacred Seeds of Wisdom. Oh my goodness, this
is a compilation book written by There's eleven of us. Yeah,
there is eleven of Us. By far one of the
easiest projects I had ever done, because we have gotten

(12:23):
asked all the time, what kind of complications did you
have working with eleven women? And how was it having
eleven women with eleven different personalities. I can honestly tell
you we had none. We published this book so fast,
there was no complications, We had no challenges. I believe

(12:46):
it was a group of women that just came together
at the right time. We all had something to say.
So Secret Seeds of Wisdom I felt like at sixty
one years young, I you know, at at that age
and probably at fifty or so half of one hundred,
you start to think about what is it that you

(13:07):
want to leave with people? You know, what do you
want to be remembered by? What seeds do you want
to sew into their life? And so I thought, Wow,
how cool would it be if a group of us
got together and just from our own experiences in life,

(13:28):
talked about something that we've learned and what we want
to sew into the next sister, so that she knows
you're not alone.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
You don't have to do it alone.

Speaker 6 (13:41):
If you're going through something, somebody in this book has
been through what you're going through, and you can draw
off their strength and off of their wisdom. And these
women wrote with so much passion. I mean, I made
it very easy for them. I just told them to
tell people if so what I said to them, I

(14:04):
set it up.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
I said, if you in.

Speaker 6 (14:05):
A room with a group of black and brown women,
what would be the one thing that you would share
with them? And then I told them just right from there. Y'all,
of course, all of us have different experiences in life,
and that's the beauty of working together with other women,
is that we come with our own diverse experiences and

(14:27):
things that we can share. So that's basically what Sacred
Sees of Wisdom is about.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Whoo.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
So this this book is very timely because y'all know,
they ain't paying us no attention. No, yeah, we're gonna
tell the honest. They're not paying us any attention when
anything that's going on in the world. And I actually
took today and part of yesterday, and I don't know

(14:57):
what made me go down this rabbit hole, y'all, but
it kept me up last night just consuming myself of
everything that was going on in in the United States. Okay,
very much, very much consumed. But you know what, out everything,

(15:21):
I did not hear one thing about the black woman.

Speaker 6 (15:26):
It's interesting that you brought that point up with trees.
This is listen, this is individual. I very rarely try
to watch. I am not interested in watching, nor am
I interested in hearing anything.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
About that orange haired man.

Speaker 6 (15:47):
However, there was something that came on my phone and
this brother had clips of at least five women and
highly professional women judge were talking judges, lawyers that the

(16:08):
president spouted off fat in a disrespectful manner. Oh that's
why you're stupid, I can tell. I mean, we're talking
like highly professional women. He called them stupid. That's why
you're ignorant. That's why you sound like a baby. You
need to go back to the first grade. You don't listen.

(16:30):
And what the brothers commentary was about is how disrespected
we are and that you know, that's terrible. That that
that is, that is that is terrible. But yeah, on
what you were saying, Yes, and I just view that today.

(16:52):
I just view it and to piggyback off that.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
So later on today I went down another rabbit hole
because I saw this come up on my TikTok feed
and it was this.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
One young lady.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
I don't even know that she has any type of
I would say priority seat, but she went against Jasmine Crockett,
and she said some choice words, hmm, how can your

(17:27):
book help a female like me whose anxiety has been
going through the roof and now who's feeling frustrated. How
can secrecies wisdom things that every black and brown woman
need to know?

Speaker 2 (17:42):
How can your book benefit me?

Speaker 6 (17:45):
Thank you so much for asking that question. And it's
a good question. So I'll answer the question by prefacing
it by saying this, Patrice, this is something that I
never really understood about us as a diaspora and as
a subculture called black women.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
At the end of the day, when you go home,
I don't care who you are.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
I don't care if you're a doctor. I don't care
if you're a lawyer. I don't care if you the
sister that's working at the grocery store, you're working at McDonald's.
It don't matter what your socioeconomical status is.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
But when you go home, sit on.

Speaker 6 (18:23):
The edge of your bed, you know, take off that
bra and that girdle, sometimes taking off that wig I
left whatever. We're all the same. I mean, you know,
at the end of the day, when we unmask all
this stuff that we put on right to be out
in the public, as a sister. We basically are all

(18:46):
the same. We're gonna have some man problems, some money problems,
some chilling problems, okay, And we're all the same. We're
all facing similar disparities. And with that, that is that
should be our connecting piece where I'm able to say

(19:06):
to you without even knowing the details of your life,
but I'm able to say to you since I understand
you know, I understand. Just we just have that subliminal
language that you and I could look at each other
and say, okay, sis, I got you, and I understand

(19:27):
in sacredcyes of wisdom. That's what we're saying through the
words that we have penned on paper. We are saying
one we are all the same. We come from different backgrounds,
but we're all the same. And since I got you, okay,
I understand the anxiety, I understand the depression, I understand disrespect,

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I understand the failures and relationships.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
I understand the children problem.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
I understand your disparity because your disparity is my disparity.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
I understand it.

Speaker 6 (19:58):
And that's what this book is saying to the sister
that picks up this book and reads it, that if
nobody else understands you. There are eleven women in this
book based on their experiences that get you, that understand you,
and that want to sew a seed into your life
that you can hang on to and say, hey, I

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got some hope because this sister is talking.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
To me to this book and that's what we need.
That's exactly what we need.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
It's it's so so perfect for the time.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
That we are in right now.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
Because tell you truth, now, I work at I work.
You guys know where I work at. Okay, And because
we're having this political talk that's coming in, I'm not
going to say exactly where I work.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
If you are looking at the show you know I
work at.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
And I will say that I have yet to see
a book that has come through to encourage an African
American system have yet. I've seen two or three that
I placed on a list, but I've yet to seen

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your coming as system. So this book is perfect. If
you could take one of your seeds of wisdom and
give to me as a black woman right now, what
would it be?

Speaker 6 (21:32):
Oh boy, I'm telling you, Patrice, you are the host
with the most girl. I mean, because you're asking me
some really profound things. I mean, there's so much good
stuff in this book. I don't know, because I think

(21:52):
about the author, Tony Winston, I think about Trevida. I meant,
we've got some powerful sisters here in this book. But
I'm just I would say to you, I'll give you
my seed that I that I put in the book.
And my seed was I need because all the all

(22:14):
the stories started with I leave you with, which is
a bad story in itself, because we wrote the book
utilizing and giving an homage to Mary Mary Bethune and
her last will and testament, I leave you with, And
so that's what we all wanted to do, was leave

(22:36):
the sisters with. So mine's was I leave you with
an exhortation to set your soul free. And so my
seed was sisters, be friend, be friend, just just whatever
that means to you, just you know, get held and

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we just get held in so many bondages by other people,
other people's opinion, what social media says about us, what
we should wear, what we should look like, and the
truth be told.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Patrious.

Speaker 6 (23:11):
I mean, most of us black women, at some point
in our lives we have just flat out almost but
killed ourselves trying to be somebody else, and so with
my seat, I'm saying, just go on and be you
whatever that is, because guess what, when you're you, it's
a beautiful thing. I mean, that's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
And so.

Speaker 6 (23:37):
At sixty one, I accept myself, all my roles, all
my curves, some of my wrinkles, stuff that you know,
I need a little work on. But hey, Erika Batdou
has a song where she says, I'm all right with me,
and that's what I was telling the sisters in my part,
be all right with you. Get to the point where

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you all right with you. So that's what I would set,
set your soul for it.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
And I accept it. I so accept it. I so
accept it. Yeah, because there's.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
Some rules like right now, y'all aren't kidching on my
stomach around it.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
Not.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
So yes, I will accept all of this imperfections and
all their imperfections are my perfections.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
I say that to myself now.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
I keep saying that to myself even when I have
those doubts. Is something that cowork of minds told me.
You were placed here for the reason, so standing your
place absolutely. So remember we talked about those fun questions.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yes, I'm on damn so My fun question for you, you.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
If you can get a female comedian, because we all
need a great laugh right now, we all just need
to smile. If you can get a female comedian to
narrow narrate your section of sacred seeds of wisdom, who

(25:24):
would you give.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
That honor to? And why?

Speaker 6 (25:29):
Well, you know if the first person that came to
my mind is Monique, now the only thing you know,
and Monique is born in the same birth of month
as me, in December, so she's a December girl. She's funny.
I probably would choose Monique. I probably just say Monique,
just probably bleak some of it out now, girl, just
just give us the clean verse. But it would be

(25:51):
it would by far I would I would pick Monique.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, all right. So you're a December me too, December?
Yes all right.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
So let's say we have an opportunity to have a
female artist place music to your book. What song resonates
with you when it comes to this book.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Let's see if I can think of the name of
her song.

Speaker 6 (26:25):
But it would definitely be a Jill Scott song for sure,
because Jill Scott is just Jill Scott. I mean, I
don't you know, I like it is it the way
you love me? But it wouldn't be for this book.
But there's another one that where she says, do you

(26:47):
like it on your colleague Greens?

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Do you like I don't know if I can't think
of the name of it, but I know you know
I'm talking about on college Greens. Okay, yes, so it
would be Jill Scott for me though.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
I love that answer Jill Scott and Jill Scott done cares.
She said this does me take it and leave it?
I mean she did the star Spangled Bannon, but she
changed all of the wording and that was like you
co girl, Like yes, okay, lifetime is on the line.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
They said, you know what.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
We love Sacred Seeds of Wisdom, and we want to
make this book into a movie. Who would you I'll
give you two people. Who would you want to play
any part in this book?

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (27:49):
I'd love for Angela Bassett for sure.

Speaker 6 (27:54):
I'd love for her to play a part. She is
so strong and so powerful and I'm trying to think
and trying to think.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Think.

Speaker 6 (28:06):
Uh, I could see Karen Washington. I can see her
playing a part in it as well, to represent the bull.
But definitely, uh yeah, that those are the two that
I would definitely pick. Yeah, play a part from yourself. Nonsense.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
I actually thought Regina King. Oh yeah, now now yeah,
now that that I'm.

Speaker 6 (28:31):
Trying to think of who who part with Regina, Uh,
I probably would get Regina Regina to do Trevida's part.
I only say that because Regina is kind of sure,
she's cute, but she she's a whip.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
You know, Regina, Regina is a she's a whip.

Speaker 6 (28:50):
So I think that she could probably do Trevida's part
pretty good, pretty good.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
So yeah, and if you guys don't know who that is,
Trevida Harris is one of the sisters on our podcast group,
The Divas of the Airway. She is sure and she
is powerful, so.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Don't let it fool you.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
Her show is on Sundays, and I want to say
Thursdays if I'm right, Trevida, please let you know. I know,
definitely Sundays and Thursdays. But yes, I you know, I
truly can't see that.

Speaker 6 (29:30):
Like Tina King could do Trevida's part for sure. Yeah,
that would be a that'd be a good actress that
could do her story in the book for sure.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
All right, Lifetime is back there saying, you know what,
this went off perfectly, and now we want to do
a biopic on you. Who would you give the honor
plane you in your bio pick?

Speaker 2 (29:57):
And why did you choose that person?

Speaker 6 (30:00):
Oh my goodness, I don't even know.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
Honestly, I don't be an actress. It doesn't have to
be a singer. It can be somebody who you know.

Speaker 6 (30:17):
Personally, Oh, somebody somebody I know personally.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
I don't know. I'd have to get somebody to help
me with that one.

Speaker 6 (30:28):
I just I don't know, you know, because in my
younger days, people used to say that Jackie Harry and
myself that we we resembled and had similar personalities. I
don't know though, because Jackie she's I think she's a
bit more flamboyant than me. But but she's funny as

(30:52):
all get out, you know. I might we choose Queen Latifa.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
You know, she's funny, she is in tune.

Speaker 6 (31:02):
So yeah, that I think that's that's that's that's that
Those are people that I would pick.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Probably somewhere you got some.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
Good choices because those women have staying power and they
stay true to theirself. Even when Queen Latifa lost herself
after her brother passed away, she came back and she
came this powerhouse. Jackie has staying power from her show
Women Abused to play sister's sister and who knows what

(31:32):
she gonna be on soon because she's still in some
more movies. So you picked two great choices.

Speaker 6 (31:39):
Yeah, yeah, I particularly like that about those actresses. And
you said it right, they have stay in power, and
I think that's pretty true to my character. You know,
they are the queen who bounced back, and I love
I love a sister that bounces back.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
But hey, I am a black woman. That was my
first best seller, is I I'm a black woman.

Speaker 6 (32:01):
Black women, We're gonna always bounce back. I mean we
that's that's that's what we do. It's in our DNA.
We got we got the.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Spirits and we bounced back. We will have a new
heir do the match. Okay, So okay, new here attitude.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
Oh ay, it's just brand new. So that's absolutely correct.
But while we're closing, what would you like to say
to your old readers, your new readers, and the readers
you will gain after this podcast?

Speaker 6 (32:34):
Oh well, I'd like I'd like to say, first and
foremost I definitely want you to buy a book. You
can go to my website, which is doctor Carroll and
Stevens dot com and you can purchase the book there.
In conjunction with purchasing the book, I want to encourage
you to write your book. Everybody has the book, everybody

(32:57):
has a story.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
There's not enough.

Speaker 6 (33:00):
We need more books written by black women for black women,
about black women, just black black black Okay.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
And I unapologetically uh.

Speaker 6 (33:14):
And that's why I love this platform because I know
that Queen Andreel's not a sister that mine. We talk
about our people, and I apologetically will speak very openly
and supportively about our people and our women because black women,
we are incredible. And the thing is, everything in life

(33:36):
comes from us.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
So write. I'd say that, write your book. You know what.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
That is one of the reasons why I do this
is because black representation in books in literature and that stereotype.
If you want to hire something, put it in the
book from That is the reason why I do this. Here,
to give authors a color a platform to speak about

(34:10):
their books, their author's journeys.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
And if you even.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
Got some social cause that you want to talk about,
believe you me, you got me and you got about
I think there's like none of us right now, but
you can come on our show and talk about it.

Speaker 6 (34:25):
So yeah, we need to and we need to be
able to talk about it. And I love this platform
because here's the thing. I'm in media right and the
way that we are depicted in media. Definitely didn't want
to leave without saying this, you like you see it, Patrees,

(34:45):
there's something that happens in the community, and they're gonna pick.
They're gonna pick the sister that doesn't know how to articulate. Well,
see dim And look, I'm not knocking nobody for your
education what I'm saying, but what they do, they do
these things intentionally to make it look as if though

(35:06):
we are not intelligent, and that person represents the whole
of who we are. And so I appreciate these kinds
of platforms that put us out there that lets the
world know we are intelligent, we are smart, we are funny,
we are educated. We do know how to talk, we

(35:26):
know how to use the dictionary. Now, depending on what
day of the week it is, you might get told
because we are black women, we can't help that part.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Because we're very passionate but for the.

Speaker 6 (35:36):
Most part, we need to be represented as the people
that God has created us to be the powerful, powerful,
dynamic queens that we are, and so we need more
platforms like this that put us out out there demonstrating
and showing who we are. We need more people like
you that pushes us to do the books we do.

(36:01):
Black women writing books for black women. I'm all for it.
I mean, and I think it's very important. And sisters
out there that's listening, let's buy each other's books because
we have to circulate our dollars amongst each other. Okay,
that's how we circulate and we stimulate the economy is
when we buy books from each other. And I won't

(36:24):
go into that, but that's why I told everybody go
to my website and get my book and I'll leave
that right where that is.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
I totally understand.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
I totally agree with you because I saw it firsthand.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
TV sh well, it was a TV shows What's the News, and.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
It was so funny how I saw this happened in
front of my eyes. Right, they had a sister who
was dressed. She wasn't dressed well, but she was casually dressed.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Bob maybe.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
Eight feet between them two, okay, but then you got
the other sister over here. And I'm not knocking y'all, no,
i am, because if you got a bonnet on in
the street, it doesn't make any sense. Okay, Yes, that
is a pet peeve of mine. If you got a
bonnet on in the street, what's the sense of pain
to get your hair done?

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Then?

Speaker 4 (37:23):
The purpose of getting your hair done so everybody can
see it? I don't want to see your bonnet.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
I'm sorry. No, I'm not sorry, not sorry, not at all.
But they chose the sistem with the bonnet. See what
happens they are.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
I'm geechee, I gotta but they chose her. And I'm
sitting up there across the street looking like, really, of
all the people out here, that's what you choose.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
But what what we need to understand, those of us
in the media, we know this that is intentional.

Speaker 6 (38:02):
That's the thing that that's intentional to do. To do that,
I mean, even when you talk about crime and you
see our boys, our men, so our men and our
boys are the ones that are committing most of the crimes.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Get out of here. There are tons and.

Speaker 6 (38:19):
Tons of white boys and white men that are committing crimes,
but you're not gonna hardly see You're not going to
see a plethora of them plastered all over the news.
Why because they want to preserve they want to preserve
the culture.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
So if you put if you put us out there, you.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
Know, eighty percent of the time, then that means that
we are committing eighty percent of the crime.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
So they say logical.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
So audience, let me ask you, guys, I mean the
school shootings that you've seen was done by African American
All wait, how many mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Let that sink in for a second. Exactly exactly. Somebody
said two and ten years.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
That is totally, totally totally what I'm saying, mm hmm.

Speaker 6 (39:27):
Not to mention, Not to mention that culturally, there are
some crimes.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
I'm not saying.

Speaker 6 (39:36):
We're not guilty, Patrice. I mean, you know we're guilty.
We're Oh yeah, we do some stuff. There are something
some things that we just don't do. We don't go
around chopping up our mamas, killing our babies. These are
not were we're culturally, We're not guilty of that. Black

(39:57):
people are by far some of the most loving, the
most embracing people that ever walked the face of the planet.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Will take care of us.

Speaker 6 (40:04):
We'll take care of your children, their children, regardless of
whatever culture you you you come from, other cultures come
and they're accepted and nurtured by our culture, by our women,
you know.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
So, I think it's very important.

Speaker 6 (40:20):
Kudos to Queen Angela for having this platform for any
woman that has something on television.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
We need more of it. Uh, we need more of it.

Speaker 6 (40:30):
We need more movies that depict us in a proper light,
in the light that we should be in to tell
our story, whether that's a book, whether that's television, whether
that's a podcast, so that our story is authentically it's
being told, not what they not tell us, because that's

(40:54):
all psychological.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
That's that's not that's not facts, what they understand that
it's it's crazy. Because woo, y'all.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
Just let's put it like this, y'all. I'm glad I
worked for the people that I work for.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Too.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
Wo y'all, I'm glad I work for the people who
I work for because some of the things I want
to say, if it wasn't for these two people that
I had to feed, and these two people that God
insisted in giving me who I love daily. I will
tell y'all a couple of things. But hey, that day
is going to come because they got.

Speaker 6 (41:34):
To grow up and that that that that day will come.
But what what, what's even sadder for me is that
I want my people to stop drinking the kool aid. Though,
that's all I'm saying. Okay, let's let's let's let's let's stop.
Let's stop drinking kool aid. Oh it's got to be

(41:55):
true because we saw it on TV. Are you serious
now that they gave you what? They gave you what
they wanted you to believe. And the thing about media,
The thing about TV is that it works by way

(42:16):
of repetition. So if you're constantly seeing an image constantly
back to back to back to back, you know, you
know that how media works. It's it's psychological.

Speaker 5 (42:32):
You know.

Speaker 6 (42:32):
If I if I say just do it, immediately, everybody's
going to tell me what brand that's associated with? You know,
you know I say do do do do do, I'm
loving it, Everybody's gonna know who that's with. So media
knows that there is a psychological conditioning that has to

(42:53):
happen in order to get people to buy into something.
So we are being psychologically condition and I would like
to add on to that, we are being raped with
our pants up because we're constantly being fed these images
that are just not true, and then we buy, we

(43:14):
buy into it, and we can't say we don't buy
into it. Because if we have our men of creating
music where we're calling where they're calling us b's and
h's and stuff like that. Brother, you drink the kool aid.
You drink the kool aid. That's what you did. You
drank the kool aid. Okay that, So you know we

(43:36):
have to we have to. That's why we have to
create our own media. We have to have our own
voices so we can tell our stories the.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Way that they need to be told. And that's the
first music that they hear.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
Because I can't think and I might be wrong of
a song where as someone of an white person, I'm
gonna go straight there.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
And yes, I do love some of y'all, but some
of y'all can't deal with is.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
Down plane and using the words that we're using our
song against their women.

Speaker 6 (44:12):
You're not gonna find it. You're not gonna find an
Oriental man talking about his woman. You're not gonna find
even in the Caucasian man. You know, he's singing this
country western song. He's not gonna call her be I
T c H. He's not gonna call her age. You know,
he's not gonna see that. We're we're gonna do that, right,
We're gonna do that. But but here's what, here's what's

(44:35):
Saturday again? Because I believe in on the ship. But
you know women, they are women that are sitting and
bopping their head and they buying that music, right, they
buying it. They supporting it instead of saying, listen, brother,
we're not supporting nothing with you downgradeing us, We're not
gonna support you. And let me tell you something. If

(44:57):
any man wants to be successful, he know that there
is one thing that he must have in order to
go to the next level, and that would be a
black woman. If you plan on being successful, you must
have black women in your corner because we make stuff happening.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Oh Lord, to be down going off the plane. I
got y'all.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
I got my hands sitting on my desk like trees
looking ahead. Look at here, old doctor Carolyn. Please tell
us where we can get your book from, how we
can follow you.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Just give us the running down. I see you in
the in the post. It's somebody.

Speaker 6 (45:43):
I think it's They got two out there now talking
about venching and hanging.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
And share it vide on TikTok and they cancel Kanye
for talking Let me and they cancel Kanye for talking
down about another reason white privilege is real.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Yes it is yo ooh.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Love of Jesus, come down trees. Who yo? I saw
that video. I saw another picture. There was a pastor
in Georgia and she there is a newspaper article where
they are suiting up in their white suit and their

(46:26):
coon hats. Yes it's a small but here's the thing
that that's not really no shock for trees.

Speaker 6 (46:38):
Like did we think the crew cross down with dead
or something. Nah, they're not there. They just took off.
They just took off them hoods and stuff like that,
and they put on doctors suits and eyes. Yes, they're
not dead, because that's a spirit. See, racism is a spirit.

(46:59):
It's a dmonic spirit. It just it just it just
infeels traits its way into other people. But do we
think like after slavery was over, like that was gonna
die or whatever.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
No, it has not. It has not gone anywhere.

Speaker 6 (47:17):
It's just it's just dressed up in a different in
a different set of clothes.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
I mean that that that's about that's about all.

Speaker 6 (47:25):
My My family is from South Carolina, and uh, I
have friends who is a very small town called Bamberg,
South Carolina, right and in this town. At that time,
my former mother in law was having problems with her
legs and she says, well, the doctor told me that
I need to get my leg amputated.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
But here's the thing, Patrice.

Speaker 6 (47:48):
Then I found out because that's I was walking around
and and and and looking at nearby town near Bamberg.
It's like every other person had their leg amput Like
the doctors are telling y'all, whatever problem you got, Like
your problem could be way up here in your neck,

(48:08):
but your legs need to be amputated.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Y'all.

Speaker 6 (48:12):
This is intentional and this stuff, this this stuff is
just it's intentional, you know, because we are targeted for
this kind of things. This shouldn't be like like every
other person in the town walking around with no leg
or no arm and telling me that that's that's a
health issue. Now, that's not a health the issue, you know,

(48:35):
that's racial targeting. We're being targeted, and we have to
you know, be more into the way. The way that
we stay in tune is that we you know, we
talk about it, and we better talk about it before
folks go around censoring us.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
And then we can't be we won't be able to
say nothing, okay, story because they are started that.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
And and and and yeah, they already started that, you know.
And I and I am sc buck yald, so I
totally understand where you're coming from.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Yeah, yeah, and you know, we were gonna have to
come back. Me and you're gonna have to come back.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
I don't even care if we do a pre recorded
interview and then share it.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
But me and you we're gonna come back and we
gonna have us a good little chit chat.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
But yes, Lord Jesus, y'all go grab secret of wisdom.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
And it is true, Trevita said, it is very much
important to advocate for yourself when it comes to your health.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
That is true because.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
When I took my daughter to the doctor about a
week and a half ago, they were like, when I
picked her up at school, Oh, she just have a fever,
let her go home. I looked my child in the
eye and I say, it is not a fever. It
is not a fever. And yes it was something minor.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
It's COVID.

Speaker 4 (50:05):
But it could have been worse because I lost my
sister to the flu. It could have been way worse.
So yes, we do have the advocate for ourselves, even personally.
You guys, I am, you're not wrong with therapy. I'm
getting back with one they sent me to. I said,
do you have somebody African American female I prefer.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Oh, we can find one. She's all the way in Florence. Cool.
It's called online virtual they could do what to do.
These are services that I gave every day.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
So yes, I thank you for joining me tonight, Doctor Stevens.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
We went, thank you for having me.

Speaker 6 (50:47):
I had a wonderful time, wonderful looking forward to us
coming back and talking some more because these are the
kind of conversations that we need to be having.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
Yes, yes, yes, And you guys before we end out,
I know, and I had this conversation with my son.
I know we all think, oh, I'm not gonna do it.
It doesn't matter. I'm not gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
But y'all go get your voter registration, go pick up
your neighbor you're eighteen year old. When they get that
driver's license, go get them.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
A voter registration card. Have a voting party when you
go out with your girls. Make sure everybody voting. Hey, yo,
let me see your card. If you got your card. Now,
I'm not telling y'all to drink, but this can be
an idea. If you got your car, the first drink's
on me. Let's get back into voting. It's something that
our ancestors fought for that we're losing because we're not

(51:51):
fighting for it anymore. Okay, I actually go help at
the polls. Yes, I do it for the mono Harry Good,
but then I also do it because I want these
little black boys and little black girls to see a
black woman. Okay, so you guys, promise me go get
your voter registration because it comes down to the next

(52:13):
time we vote, and then this situation happened again and
you didn't vote. I don't want to hear you. I
don't want to hear anything you got to say. I'll
talk to you in four years. Well, pretty cod is
four years, because how were you trying to do it?

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Okay, So thank you? This demens for being with us tonight.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
You guys, remember there's no such thing as an old book,
because not everybody is read every book.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Go grab secret seeds of wisdom.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
Good Night everyone, Bye,
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