October 24, 2025 • 40 mins
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Speaker 1 (02:39):
Hey, everyone, this is your Girl Scie book out eight
four three, and it's another Tuesday night. So you know
I'm bringing you a new author and a new book. Okay.
So you guys, today's book hits kind of close. Well
it doesn't kind it does hit close to home for me.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
On October ninth was four years since I lost my
mother to cancer. In the book we're going to be
talking about, it's gonna be about grief, Okay. So I
have an author that is here from Columbus, Ohio. Now Columbus,
you get full seasons in one day. Believe you me.
(03:24):
I've been there and been through it and never do
it again again. So she is going to talk to
us about her book. Okay, you guys, I am so
excited to have her here with us, and we are
going to be talking about the book dealing with grief. Okay.
So without further ado, I am going to bring bringing
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up author key it I am saying it wrong, but
it's keiarra ho. Y'all know I'm bad with being soon
I act like y'all don't know. Y'all know I'm terrible
with it. But chage my head, not my heart, my
heart not my head. Charge it to the bad one, okay,
because it's like you're gonna try and see. But come
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on up, Giry, come on up.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Hello. It is pronounced kiya. How are you here? Thank
you so much for this opportunity.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Thank you for being here with us. So before we
go any further, tell us a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
So I am Kiya Hope, living in Columbus, Ohio, as
you said, and just excited. I'm a military kid, so
I've lived in all the different seasons and most of
the Actually I think i've hit all the not all
the time zone the United States. I'm missing Hawaii. I
got to get to Hawaii, but we even lived in
Alaska for a while, and so I am so had
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the opportunity to move around the United States and go
and visit different countries. So I like to travel and
I work a full time job. I'm also a founding
pastor of Covenant Believers Community Church whoop woop, celebrating nine years.
So next year we'll be our ten year anniversary, which
is so exciting. I know, and I guess I didn't
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have enough to do, so I started writing books.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Is it all all right? Asks her? How do you
do it all.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I don't know, but by the grace of God, I
even went. I graduated with my master in Divinity a
couple of years ago, so I was working full time
job pastoring and then decided to go and get another
master's degree. So, pull, where did you sleep? It was
rough sometimes I'm not gonna lie. We'll go to bed
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sometimes at after eleven and then so I do all
my ministry work in the morning. So when I get
up in the morning, that's when I'm working on my
sermons and Bible study. So I get up about five
or five thirty. When I was in school, I was
getting up at five and then get ready do my
nine to five and then after that it was at
that time going to school, and so it was busy,
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you know. So I tried to have I just really
only had Sunday afternoons to myself. So it was a
lot of work, but I knew it was for a
temporary situation.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Understandable, understandable so that military life. Let me ask you
a question, Okay, what was your favorite place to live?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I think Germany because I was in Germany from age
nine to twelve, and it was because we lived on
the border of Germany and Austria. So we went to Austria.
All this time, I was like fifteen minutes to get
to Austria. We did a trip, a two week train
trip where we went to all these different countries because
there is so you know, Europe, you get places faster
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than you do in the United States. And so we
always had all these experiences and we would go into Germantown.
I learned about exchanging money, so I used to watch
exchange rates so I can exchange from dollars to deutsch marks.
And so it was. It was an awesome experience, and
I'm glad I was old enough to remember all of that.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
So I have to ask that question. Now, one more
question about your past. How did you get used to
living in Alaska and it being dark all day long? Oh? No,
it's a Sunday, sun light all day.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
On both both.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
So we were at Fairbanks. So Fairbanks is only about
three months. Some of the extreme places are the six months.
I'll tell you the fun thing. So I was in
Alaska as a teenager, and the fun thing was ten
o'clock at night playing softball because it was still like dust,
you know, so it was still light enough you could see.
That was the fun thing. Here's something interesting, little tidbit
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what they would do for the kids who were younger.
They would put aluminum foil on the windows to sunlight
so the kids would go to leep. But the nighttime
was weird because it was pitch black when you go
to school, and then it would get fairly not light,
but not even dusk, maybe twilight or something around ten
or eleven. But by the time you get out of school,
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it is back pitch black. So it was really that's
a lot of depression. There a lot of alcoholism because
of all of that. But as a kid, the daytime
thing was awesome.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
The nighttime thing, you just kind of got used to it,
but it is I don't I thought it was. I
thought it was a great experience. I would have graduated
high school from there, except my mother got sick and
we had to come back to the Lower forty eight
is what they call it. So we had to come
back over here so she could get care of Our
brother graduated high school from Alaska.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Wow, yeah, okay, that's that's that's something. So yeah, what
make you okay, y'all? That's mikey. She came straight out
what needs you? What made you want to become an author?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I always knew I would write, so one of the
things in Germany, we didn't have a lot of things
to do. I think that's where my artistic side kind
of came out. So I had my own little didn't
even know what to call him. I used to have
my own radio show back then, and so I used
to have my brother come on. So I had my
little cassette tape and I would record him and i'd
make him be my guest so I could ask him questions.
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And then if he didn't want to act right, I'd
have to do my own guests, and I'd change up
voices and i'd interview myself. And so that's where I
started reading. And I just read everything I could get
my hands on, including things I shouldn't have been reading,
to be honest. And so as I continued on in life,
I was always writing. I wrote for the newspaper, I
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did this, you know, the yearbook. So I always and
I did a couple of poems. Really when I was
dealing with my mother's illness, I did a lot of
wrote a lot of poems in but I always knew
I would write a book. I did not think I
would write books, so that part was a surprise. But
I think in Germany where the creative of me began
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to develop.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
So how many books do you have under your belt
right now?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I have three while all I'm written in this year,
all this year.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Congratulations, my sweetheart. I know, like wow, Now, y'all, I'm
about to bring up her book cover. Y'all know how
I am of my book coutse. Y'all know I am
a cover girl. If your book draws me through a cover,
there's a good chance I'm reading. Okay, So y'all ready
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for this one.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Here?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Okay, So I'm glad you picked up on a transition.
That's what this is about. That's why there's a butterfly.
So I have to give a shout out to my
friend Shelby. She was one initially was working on my
book cover so dealing with grief and how to move
beyond it. I initially wanted and then drodging this person
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running across the book cover. And as they were running,
I wanted them to transition away from dark gray and blue,
to transition into joy, to you know, moving beyond the grief.
But she and I were talking one time. So we
met at the gym, and so she hadn't shown me anything,
and she said, okay, I want to tell you about
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the book cover. She said, I know you had an
idea about it, but I've been working on something and
I was thinking about a butterfly, and I was like, okay.
So we switched into another part of the workout, and
I kept in my mind going, I said, you know
what a butterfly. Fly represents change, and if you're going
to deal with your grief and move beyond it, that
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involves change. So I said, I like it. And so
she got busy with people who paid her a lot
more money than I was offering, and so I ended
up going and getting a different designer. But I stuck
with the butterfly. And so I told him my vision
of what I wanted, and he came up with the
half and half. Because we start out, you know, grief
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hurts like you and I both lost our mothers to cancer,
and that's not an overnight process. You're watching this person change.
You're watching this person as they're transitioning, you know, from
life to death. And so I wanted the book to
represent that with the color. So when I look at it.
That's what it represents to me. But what I don't
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want any of us to do is to stay in
the point of grief, to get locked into that. And
so my prayer for everyone is that and if the
book helps them to do that, that would be an honor, honestly,
But for us to move beyond and understand that we're
still alive, we're still here. That means that we still
have work to do. And so for us not to
get stuck in the state of grief, but to move
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beyond it.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
You know, that's funny because my aunt called me, and
she also does that. She calls to you, She calls
each one of each one of us, me and my
two sisters, and she was like crying. You know, I'm
thinking about your mama said she a better pleased than us.
I mean, we got to deal with what's going on
down here. I'm boy after partying all day long, you know.
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And I have friends who say, treat you make light
of the situation. No, I have my moments, but I mean, really,
what you want your family member down here suffering?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Mm.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
So that's how I always look at it, and and
that's exactly right, because I watched my mother. And I'll
go ahead and tell you one of the things I
put in a book here.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Now.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I shared this with people even before I wrote the book,
and they, you know, were very judgmental towards me. But
I prayed for my mother to die because at the
end of her life, we were crunching up pain pills
so that they can get in her system quicker. Nothing
that was given to her helped her. She was in
immense pain. The cancer had metastasized in her body, and
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she was just really struggling to breathe. She had no
quality of life. She's stuck into bed. She's, like I said,
in constant pain. So as a as a Christian, why
would I want you to stay in that state? For me,
I was eighteen, my brother was twenty, and my parents
had us in high school. My mother was thirty five
when she died. My brother my dad was thirty seven.
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So we were a young family and my mother was
diagnosed with the cancer initially almost ten years before then.
So for her to deal with the cancer going remission,
deal with the cancer going remission, and when it came
back this time, it came back with a vengeance. So
it got to the point where I knew that God
would heal her in heaven. I knew that when she
got to heaven, she was not going to be hurting,
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she was not going to be suffering, she would not
be struggling to breathe. And I knew that even though
I was going to hurt, I was going to cry
and it was going to be hard. But I knew
that I was going to be okay because I was
also saved, and so I knew that I know I
will see my mother again. But it was to me,
it is selfish to say, I want you to stay
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in a constant state of pain just so that you're
still here for me, when I know that the greater
is for you on the other side. You know what?
Speaker 1 (15:36):
And as the same conversation to you, guys, I had
with my daughter. My daughter is now ten, So she
was about seven when my mother died, and she knew.
She saw it all. They went through the process. All
of her grants were there, and I'll never forget her.
One Saturday, we went to her house, so we knew
that it was going to be close, because she got
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all her energy and she came and sat in the
front room and had all her grands around there except
the oldest one, which is my son, he was at work.
She had all the little ones around her and she sang, yes,
Jesus loves me. She talk to them about listening to
their mom and their dad, and she kissed all of them,
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tell them she loved them, and then she played her
song Waymaker, and me and my sisters knew, okay, all right, yo,
this is getting kind of okay, go play Kings because
we didn't know how to handle it, but we knew
what she was doing. She was preparing them. But you
know what they did very They they were great. I
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won't say they were good because everybody did go through counseling.
But my daughter was like, I'm happy Grannie's in a
better place. Branny's with Auntie Brittany, which was my sister
who passed away. Yeah, Auntie Brittany just needed somebody to
be with her.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I was like, he was an old leader, but you know,
Grannie just wanted to be with Auntie Brady. I'm like,
you know, old lead. He go so please, but it
made so much sense. And but there were other individuals
who I felt the same way, the opposite of how
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you were feeling. They wanted her to stay. They were praying, Oh, God, healer,
and I'm like, it's not that I don't want my
mother to be here, said, I don't want.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Her to suffer exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, you see this pain, you see it. You see
them just not being theirself. They're a shadow of a body.
So I totally understand. Yeah, So my next question to
you would be who should read your book?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
So I think so one grief. Most of the time
I've run into people who say, oh, I'm not dealing
with grief right now, I don't need that. Well, here's
the thing. Either one you've experienced it to you're going
to experience it, or you already have. Grief doesn't play favorites,
and it hits all of us. And that's just the
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truth of it. When God gave me this book, I
didn't think I was grieving either. I was like, God,
why are you give me this book? I'm not grieving.
I don't need to write this book. So we could
talk about that part of it. But this book is
for those who want to move beyond the state of grief,
those who may be an active grief, and it's also
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an opportunity to remember our loved ones. So to say
anybody dealing with grief is kind of shortcoming. Because one
of my friends shout out to him, he just went
through a divorce and he read the book and I
love it. It's a story, he said. He stayed up
till three o'clock in the morning finishing the book, and
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he told me, he said, even, oh, I'm not dealing
with grief for the loss of a family member. I'm
dealing with grief and the loss of a marriage. And
he told me how the book helped him. So, no,
it wasn't. So it was grief period, not necessarily just
for dealing with loss of a loved one. But he
lost a marriage and that was a huge part of
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his life and his identity. And so he talked about
how the book helped him to move beyond that, how
it helped him to recognize, like we talked about the
five stages of grief and moving beyond that. Excuse me.
And so I was like, wow, thank you so much
for sharing that, because it is about grief in general.
You can lose a job, and you can lose a pet.
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Some people grief when they have to move from a house.
Excuse me. So grief in any aspect. I am a pastor,
so excuse me, I share with you. I just came
back from vacation sick. But anyway, and so there are
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times that I do put my pastor head on because
I know my faith. This world is not the end
for Christians. We will see our loved ones again.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Thereby go excuse me, but why we give her a
chance to get some more? Because everybody, y'all know what
time it is, right, I told her that.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I was praying.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I give you, sweetheart, it is okay, It is okay.
You are a human. You are humans. Go ahead, take
a couple of SIPs, and I explain to you the
fun question. Okay, So fun questions always deal with entertainment
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in the lines of music and actors actress. You know,
I love music, and I love movies and I love
TV series. So Lifetimes say, we love your book. We
would like to turn it into a movie, but you
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have to cast the leading male in the leading female.
But they can only be nineties gospel artists.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Oh my gosh, I was rolling with you for a
minute until I put that time period. Yeah, gospel artists,
My goodness. Okay, So I love Yolanda Adams I'm not
as tall as she is or as skinny as she is,
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but I love her power, Okay, I love her perseverance,
so I say she can play me. Let's see. So
for my father, so he was not necessarily a practicing Christian,
so he'd be tough to pick. God did me to
bring him back to the Lord before he died. Oh yeah,
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I do want to say. My grief book is not
just about my mother. It is my mother, my father,
A break up, A break up, y'all. Y'all been through
some traumatic breakups. Have mercy Jesus and a grandmother, great grandmother. Yeah,
in the middle of losing my mother and my grandmother.
But anyway, I digress. So, yes, a little juice in there,
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a little little yeah Jesus. Yeah, I would say what
you couldn't tell when I was engaged. But yeah, so
we had to do. And the clean version of what
I said was, uh, but God him not to be honest.
For my dad and my brother, that could be a
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little tough grandmother, let's do. Uh well, I don't know
my grandmother would tell you about yourself. So maybe a
Shirley Caesar for one of them. Uh see, I would
have picked ante labacity. You told me a gospel singer.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
You might need to use that leading mo because we
still got too more questions.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Okay, my bad, My bad. Okay, I don't know for
my dad and my brother because my brother was still
praying for his salvation praise guard. I don't know. I
only got me in the grandmother's dam.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Okay. So if I have to think a gospel artist
that lives, I want to say, lives on the edge,
but has that universal appeal. If he is for lack
of word, you guys hold me to that.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
TI. Yeah, I was singing C. C. Winings. TI trip
does as well, Kirk Franklin does. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
The only reason why I said Ti Trivia because my
daughter loves TI Triviant.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Okay, yes, Jesus, girl, you can dance like that, then
we can talk. Said we started.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Thank you. We got all these people right what they
were only gonna be used for the soundtrack. But now
we gotta get the actors. Okay, who would play you
in your book?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I'm gonna say Angela Bassett off of two of her roles,
so one of them and Waiting to Exhale was part
of my breakup series. That was one of that had
a lot to do during the breakup. And I love
her transition when she played Tina Turner, right, when you
make that decision that you are no longer the victim
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because I got tired of being identified as a girl
whose mom died, the girl who's mom had cancer. I
got tired of that identity because I said, there's more
to me than just that. And so there was a
transition with Tina Turner, and there was a transition with
angelabassad and waiting to exhale. Right, she was no longer
the wife that, as Mary J. Blige say, sat by
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your side for eleven years. I was your sick Taran.
So no longer that right, going into an empowerment stage,
And that's what that was, what my transition was of
this is not who I was eighteen. You can't lock
me into that identity at eighteen.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
You know, I don't even know who I'm going to be,
But I knew it wasn't gonna be the girl whose
mom died. I was that was an aspect of my life,
but I wanted to be my whole life. So I
would say that for her because the roles that she played,
and there was always a transition in it, and I
like that.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
That is true. Every role she has played has been
some type of transition yep. And always two empowerment.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Even a nine to one one, y'all. I love that show.
But this is new nine one one that got on
I can't deal with. He lost Bobby, he had what
was the basketball player? Uh Fox, Rick Fox? You know
she went there with her the name of that one, right,
and he helped to empower her. So all of that,
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I look at at people, and because we should be
ever evolving, I guess maybe that's where I'm going. That
is true, because I mean there are four seasons, and
I think we changed twice as much. So all right,
Lifetime said, all right, this is beautiful. We got you
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all settled. We're going to do the movie. But then, Hi,
this is Oprah Winfrey, and I want to give you
the opportunity to write with your favorite author, your favorite
pass sterial author.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
And why Okay, so let me say this. My favorite
genre of book or murder mysteries, not.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Story.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
But I'm being honest. I love to catch the murderers.
Those are my favorite things. I know. I write nonsense, Christian,
that's the next book gonna work. But I promise you
my favorite books. I got these lovely devotionals and all
of this stuff. But I promise you when I'm ready
to curl up in my chair with my tea and
my blanket. We somebody died, and we gotta said somebody died.
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She got somebody.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
So if you had that opportunity, well, let's you know what,
let's strike that if you had the opportunity to write
a murder mystery with any body, anybody, it doesn't matter
who it is, Who would it be and what would
be the title?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Oh? He almost got away? Oh okay, okay, and that
and that scene comes me from The Color Girls with
Frank he almost got all my stuff? Uh so you know,
the murderers always think they won't get caught, right, So
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he almost got away. See. I read so many different authors.
I'm in my mind. I'm thinking of all my favorite
TV shows, of which detectives and things. But I guess
I would have to go with Gosh, I just forgot
her name. Her her thing actually just got turned into
a series on ABC. Uh will Trent series? Oh my gosh,
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you have to look it up. Uh yeah, so she
I've read all, I've read all of her books. I'm
gonna mess myself up because I'm really bad when it
comes to the names of my authors.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Me too, Me too.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
But she has you know, Karen Slaughter, so she is
one who I love. I like if it's an FBI
book or Cia all of that. I read all of that,
if it's a police detective. But I am just into
murder mystery. And so I used to read romance when
I was in college, and now I'm just like, so
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nobody died, Like, what do you know? It does not intrigue.
I've transitioned as well. But I think I would like
to write a short series of a cute little romance,
but it would have to be like a short you know,
like a couple of short stories or something. I don't
think I could write a murder mystery, but I like
to read them.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Well, maybe you can put the romance and the murder
mystery together.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Because he almost got away.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
So let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I bet you used to sit down there and watch murder.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
She wrote, didn't you absolutely Columbus? Look, the old school
was Colombo Murder? She wrote, Mattlock. Okay, my age, right,
you know in the last I say, two or three years,
I got turned on to Perry Mason like that was
in black and white. That is how old that one is.
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But I was just I mean, honestly, if somebody died,
I got to help these people solve the murder. We
got to go find the murderer. Sherry me soon.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Oh, sit up there and watch matt Antela Lansbury. I
tell her said, somebody gonna kill them too if they're
too noisy, especially Mattlock. He's always pop out of nowhere,
like what are you doing? Man?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I would not be friends with Angela Lansbury because somebody
around her always dies. She's not a good person to
be friends with. Okay, I was like, no.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
It's true.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I think Colombo is probably one of my favorite detectives
because he would always pretend like he was oblivious, didn't
know what was going a fumbling, bumbling detective, but he
always got his man or woman.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Here you go. I can only hit you with the
end the heat of the night. I can sit up
there looking at all day and even got a RUFU
channel for Indie heating night y'all so two o'clock in
the morning.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Can't sleep that is so true, true, it is always on.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Always. I love roucoul for doing stuff like that. Let
me stop, I digress. As we come to a close,
can you please tell what would you like to say
to your new readers, old readers and up and coming readers.
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What do would you like to say to them?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I would like to say, I wrote a book call
this is so. This is from my church people. Okay,
those who go to church, you take all your sermon
notes and one one little book, right, and so because
I also had to add other stuff in there. So
one you take your notes every Sunday, and then at
the end of the month, I have a thing to
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help you reflect over your pastor's sermons over the last month.
And then I also give you something. I'm really big
on spiritual growth, right, transition, If you'll see that about me,
I'm really big about transition. And so every month I
have a question in there for you to think about
for your spiritual growth. And then at the end of
the year, once you've completed that whole year, I give
you some more stuff. So there's that German notebooks. And
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then of course you mentioned my book dealing with Grief
and how to Move Beyond it and published in the
last two weeks.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
But gold.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
This is the journal that goes with it. So this
journal evolved more than I thought that it would. I
thought initially I was just going to take a couple
other chapters from the book, give you something journal prompt,
blah blah blah, and I wasn't going to include all
the chapters. And then I would hear from people what reid,
those who had already read the book of what resonated
with them, and I was like, oh, so I need
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include all of the chapters. And I added some others
from some of the feedback that I got from people,
And I am working on another book. So what I
would like to know is stick with your girl. We
are doing big things. Okay. So one of the things,
like I said, I talk a lot about spiritual growth.
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I talk about evolution. I talk about growing and evolving.
So five years ago, did I know that I would
be doing all of this? No, Like I said, I
knew I would write a book. I did not know
I would write books. So that was something that just
kind of came out of the blue. So I don't
know all the types of books I'm going to write.
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Right I'm listening to the Holy Spirit. Because here's the thing.
So when I got ready to write a book, this
is not the book that I was working on. I
was listening to a webinar that teaches you how to
write books. And God said, dealing with grief and how
to move beyond it. And I said, no, I'm not grieving.
What are you talking about? So I got multiporting. So
I've got this guy up here and I'm listening to
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the webinar. God said it again, dealing with grief and
how to move beyond it. So I was like, okay,
and he gave me the first five chapters. So I
was like, whoa. So I still haven't written a book
that I was working on initially. So I don't know
all the books I'm going to write. Are all the
things I'm going to do. I'm just going to listen
to the whole spirit and follow him. So follow me
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as I follow Christ.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
As Paul said, So, now, since be talking about follow you,
how about you give us the run down on social
media and anything else that you may have coming up.
How can we follow you?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Okay? So my YouTube page is pitiful, y'all come help
me out, okay, kyah, hold, go to go to YouTube.
I am so low on followers and all of that,
and I'm gonna do better with videos. But I am
on YouTube, i am on Instagram, I am on you LinkedIn,
I am on TikTok, and I'm on threads. So one
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thing that I do do Here's a reason you should
follow me, is that I post something inspirational. Either's something
to help you deal with grief, something I'm always tying
it back to grief. Of course, as my books evolve,
it'll be with that. But so sometimes there are some
people who may never buy my book, and that's okay,
But what I hope that they get from the post
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is some encouragement to hang in there. There are gray
days right for the book. There are days that are
that are gray and dark and you just feel like
you can't go on. And I want to give you
inspiration to tell you that there is hope, and so
I make I make the post just to kind of
encourage people throughout. I'm gonna try to do better with videos.
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I'm gonna do better with videos, that's my pledge. But
most time I'm like, I don't have time, but.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I understand, I'm gonna write I'm gonna do this video,
and you look like, oh, man, hold on, I'm tell
you yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
So but yeah, I just want to say that I'm excited.
I thank you for this opportunity to come and share
my story and pump up the book. And and I pray,
honestly for for anyone dealing with grief. I pray that
you don't get stuck in that there is hope on
the other side. There still can be joy in your life.
And so grief is a stage. One of the things
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I have in there is don't stay in the state
you're in. You're in a state of grief, but don't
stay in it. You talked about how your mother was
preparing everyone to say goodbye. I have a chapter prepared
to say goodbye. I never realized my mother was prepared
to say goodbye to me until I wrote the book,
So I had a couple of Yeah. I didn't realize
it until I was writing, and I was like, oh,
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my gosh, she was. I thought I was just, you know,
preparing to say goodbye her and she was doing the
same to me. So it's, uh, it's it's just that's all.
It was a blessing for me. It was very cathartic
because as I was writing, it was five years since
my father passed, and so it was it was good
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to write about that and just to really prayerfully hopefully
help someone else.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
So you guys, remember, it's not always about losing someone.
It's about losing maybe a job, an animal, something you
had to let go and you're grieving over it. So
don't think that this book is only for when a
family member or someone you know has passed away. No, actually,
you know, grieving is a part of closure.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
So it is right because I have the breakup chapter,
the break up chapters in there. And then I also
had a friend who retired and they brought on a
state of grief for her because it was like, well
now what not? Oh yes, So when she read the
book and we talked about it, and she said, because
grief is grief, and I said, you're absolutely right, and
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so even retirement can we think it's all exciting, but
sometimes it's like, well now what do I do?
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Absolutely right, So you guys go grab the book and
we're gonna bring it up on more time for you
all so you can see this beautiful book tonight. You
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got all their social media information is strolling at to bomb,
so go give her some followers. I promise she'll do
one video before twenty five.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
I promise.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I promise better I post, I do post.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I mean I'm gonna do better on videos.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
So he does post. I have to bet. I've seen
her posts and I think I'm following you or we
might be already friends. But she does post me, you know,
and by yourself. I need to do the same thing.
And I promise. I know y'all been saying this for
how many years now, I promise, as.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
I always say, we're gonna make new life resolutions, not
New Years because years changed, but.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
New Year's resolution. I get through day one and that's
about it. I'm not even food by something this year.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
What you want to do for your life, that's my
pastor hat right there. Life. There you go.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Thank you for being with me tonight, Miss Hope, and
you guys, like I said, go grab the book, very
very very much needed for everybody because we're all gonna
lose something. So how about we just put this in
our back pocket for awesome Arsenal trying to learn some
new words. But you guys, it's another Tuesday night. Make
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sure you join me. Next Tuesday, I'm gonna be on
the road, okay, you guys. So I'm going to the
South Carolina Library Conference, So i will be interviewing Melanie
Joy and we're gonna be talking about her book next Tuesday,
same time. APM. Again, Thank you, mss Hope, and you
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guys remember there's no such thing as an old book
because not everybody has read every book. You guys have
a great night. Bye.
Hey, everyone, this is your Girl Scie book out eight
four three, and it's another Tuesday night. So you know
I'm bringing you a new author and a new book. Okay.
So you guys, today's book hits kind of close. Well
it doesn't kind it does hit close to home for me.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
On October ninth was four years since I lost my
mother to cancer. In the book we're going to be
talking about, it's gonna be about grief, Okay. So I
have an author that is here from Columbus, Ohio. Now Columbus,
you get full seasons in one day. Believe you me.
(03:24):
I've been there and been through it and never do
it again again. So she is going to talk to
us about her book. Okay, you guys, I am so
excited to have her here with us, and we are
going to be talking about the book dealing with grief. Okay.
So without further ado, I am going to bring bringing
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up author key it I am saying it wrong, but
it's keiarra ho. Y'all know I'm bad with being soon
I act like y'all don't know. Y'all know I'm terrible
with it. But chage my head, not my heart, my
heart not my head. Charge it to the bad one, okay,
because it's like you're gonna try and see. But come
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on up, Giry, come on up.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Hello. It is pronounced kiya. How are you here? Thank
you so much for this opportunity.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Thank you for being here with us. So before we
go any further, tell us a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
So I am Kiya Hope, living in Columbus, Ohio, as
you said, and just excited. I'm a military kid, so
I've lived in all the different seasons and most of
the Actually I think i've hit all the not all
the time zone the United States. I'm missing Hawaii. I
got to get to Hawaii, but we even lived in
Alaska for a while, and so I am so had
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the opportunity to move around the United States and go
and visit different countries. So I like to travel and
I work a full time job. I'm also a founding
pastor of Covenant Believers Community Church whoop woop, celebrating nine years.
So next year we'll be our ten year anniversary, which
is so exciting. I know, and I guess I didn't
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have enough to do, so I started writing books.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Is it all all right? Asks her? How do you
do it all.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I don't know, but by the grace of God, I
even went. I graduated with my master in Divinity a
couple of years ago, so I was working full time
job pastoring and then decided to go and get another
master's degree. So, pull, where did you sleep? It was
rough sometimes I'm not gonna lie. We'll go to bed
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sometimes at after eleven and then so I do all
my ministry work in the morning. So when I get
up in the morning, that's when I'm working on my
sermons and Bible study. So I get up about five
or five thirty. When I was in school, I was
getting up at five and then get ready do my
nine to five and then after that it was at
that time going to school, and so it was busy,
(06:10):
you know. So I tried to have I just really
only had Sunday afternoons to myself. So it was a
lot of work, but I knew it was for a
temporary situation.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Understandable, understandable so that military life. Let me ask you
a question, Okay, what was your favorite place to live?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I think Germany because I was in Germany from age
nine to twelve, and it was because we lived on
the border of Germany and Austria. So we went to Austria.
All this time, I was like fifteen minutes to get
to Austria. We did a trip, a two week train
trip where we went to all these different countries because
there is so you know, Europe, you get places faster
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than you do in the United States. And so we
always had all these experiences and we would go into Germantown.
I learned about exchanging money, so I used to watch
exchange rates so I can exchange from dollars to deutsch marks.
And so it was. It was an awesome experience, and
I'm glad I was old enough to remember all of that.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
So I have to ask that question. Now, one more
question about your past. How did you get used to
living in Alaska and it being dark all day long? Oh? No,
it's a Sunday, sun light all day.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
On both both.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
So we were at Fairbanks. So Fairbanks is only about
three months. Some of the extreme places are the six months.
I'll tell you the fun thing. So I was in
Alaska as a teenager, and the fun thing was ten
o'clock at night playing softball because it was still like dust,
you know, so it was still light enough you could see.
That was the fun thing. Here's something interesting, little tidbit
(07:54):
what they would do for the kids who were younger.
They would put aluminum foil on the windows to sunlight
so the kids would go to leep. But the nighttime
was weird because it was pitch black when you go
to school, and then it would get fairly not light,
but not even dusk, maybe twilight or something around ten
or eleven. But by the time you get out of school,
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it is back pitch black. So it was really that's
a lot of depression. There a lot of alcoholism because
of all of that. But as a kid, the daytime
thing was awesome.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
The nighttime thing, you just kind of got used to it,
but it is I don't I thought it was. I
thought it was a great experience. I would have graduated
high school from there, except my mother got sick and
we had to come back to the Lower forty eight
is what they call it. So we had to come
back over here so she could get care of Our
brother graduated high school from Alaska.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Wow, yeah, okay, that's that's that's something. So yeah, what
make you okay, y'all? That's mikey. She came straight out
what needs you? What made you want to become an author?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I always knew I would write, so one of the
things in Germany, we didn't have a lot of things
to do. I think that's where my artistic side kind
of came out. So I had my own little didn't
even know what to call him. I used to have
my own radio show back then, and so I used
to have my brother come on. So I had my
little cassette tape and I would record him and i'd
make him be my guest so I could ask him questions.
(09:26):
And then if he didn't want to act right, I'd
have to do my own guests, and I'd change up
voices and i'd interview myself. And so that's where I
started reading. And I just read everything I could get
my hands on, including things I shouldn't have been reading,
to be honest. And so as I continued on in life,
I was always writing. I wrote for the newspaper, I
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did this, you know, the yearbook. So I always and
I did a couple of poems. Really when I was
dealing with my mother's illness, I did a lot of
wrote a lot of poems in but I always knew
I would write a book. I did not think I
would write books, so that part was a surprise. But
I think in Germany where the creative of me began
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to develop.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
So how many books do you have under your belt
right now?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I have three while all I'm written in this year,
all this year.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Congratulations, my sweetheart. I know, like wow, Now, y'all, I'm
about to bring up her book cover. Y'all know how
I am of my book coutse. Y'all know I am
a cover girl. If your book draws me through a cover,
there's a good chance I'm reading. Okay, So y'all ready
(10:49):
for this one.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Here?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Okay, So I'm glad you picked up on a transition.
That's what this is about. That's why there's a butterfly.
So I have to give a shout out to my
friend Shelby. She was one initially was working on my
book cover so dealing with grief and how to move
beyond it. I initially wanted and then drodging this person
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running across the book cover. And as they were running,
I wanted them to transition away from dark gray and blue,
to transition into joy, to you know, moving beyond the grief.
But she and I were talking one time. So we
met at the gym, and so she hadn't shown me anything,
and she said, okay, I want to tell you about
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the book cover. She said, I know you had an
idea about it, but I've been working on something and
I was thinking about a butterfly, and I was like, okay.
So we switched into another part of the workout, and
I kept in my mind going, I said, you know
what a butterfly. Fly represents change, and if you're going
to deal with your grief and move beyond it, that
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involves change. So I said, I like it. And so
she got busy with people who paid her a lot
more money than I was offering, and so I ended
up going and getting a different designer. But I stuck
with the butterfly. And so I told him my vision
of what I wanted, and he came up with the
half and half. Because we start out, you know, grief
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hurts like you and I both lost our mothers to cancer,
and that's not an overnight process. You're watching this person change.
You're watching this person as they're transitioning, you know, from
life to death. And so I wanted the book to
represent that with the color. So when I look at it.
That's what it represents to me. But what I don't
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want any of us to do is to stay in
the point of grief, to get locked into that. And
so my prayer for everyone is that and if the
book helps them to do that, that would be an honor, honestly,
But for us to move beyond and understand that we're
still alive, we're still here. That means that we still
have work to do. And so for us not to
get stuck in the state of grief, but to move
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beyond it.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
You know, that's funny because my aunt called me, and
she also does that. She calls to you, She calls
each one of each one of us, me and my
two sisters, and she was like crying. You know, I'm
thinking about your mama said she a better pleased than us.
I mean, we got to deal with what's going on
down here. I'm boy after partying all day long, you know.
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And I have friends who say, treat you make light
of the situation. No, I have my moments, but I mean, really,
what you want your family member down here suffering?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Mm.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
So that's how I always look at it, and and
that's exactly right, because I watched my mother. And I'll
go ahead and tell you one of the things I
put in a book here.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Now.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I shared this with people even before I wrote the book,
and they, you know, were very judgmental towards me. But
I prayed for my mother to die because at the
end of her life, we were crunching up pain pills
so that they can get in her system quicker. Nothing
that was given to her helped her. She was in
immense pain. The cancer had metastasized in her body, and
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she was just really struggling to breathe. She had no
quality of life. She's stuck into bed. She's, like I said,
in constant pain. So as a as a Christian, why
would I want you to stay in that state? For me,
I was eighteen, my brother was twenty, and my parents
had us in high school. My mother was thirty five
when she died. My brother my dad was thirty seven.
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So we were a young family and my mother was
diagnosed with the cancer initially almost ten years before then.
So for her to deal with the cancer going remission,
deal with the cancer going remission, and when it came
back this time, it came back with a vengeance. So
it got to the point where I knew that God
would heal her in heaven. I knew that when she
got to heaven, she was not going to be hurting,
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she was not going to be suffering, she would not
be struggling to breathe. And I knew that even though
I was going to hurt, I was going to cry
and it was going to be hard. But I knew
that I was going to be okay because I was
also saved, and so I knew that I know I
will see my mother again. But it was to me,
it is selfish to say, I want you to stay
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in a constant state of pain just so that you're
still here for me, when I know that the greater
is for you on the other side. You know what?
Speaker 1 (15:36):
And as the same conversation to you, guys, I had
with my daughter. My daughter is now ten, So she
was about seven when my mother died, and she knew.
She saw it all. They went through the process. All
of her grants were there, and I'll never forget her.
One Saturday, we went to her house, so we knew
that it was going to be close, because she got
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all her energy and she came and sat in the
front room and had all her grands around there except
the oldest one, which is my son, he was at work.
She had all the little ones around her and she sang, yes,
Jesus loves me. She talk to them about listening to
their mom and their dad, and she kissed all of them,
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tell them she loved them, and then she played her
song Waymaker, and me and my sisters knew, okay, all right, yo,
this is getting kind of okay, go play Kings because
we didn't know how to handle it, but we knew
what she was doing. She was preparing them. But you
know what they did very They they were great. I
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won't say they were good because everybody did go through counseling.
But my daughter was like, I'm happy Grannie's in a
better place. Branny's with Auntie Brittany, which was my sister
who passed away. Yeah, Auntie Brittany just needed somebody to
be with her.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I was like, he was an old leader, but you know,
Grannie just wanted to be with Auntie Brady. I'm like,
you know, old lead. He go so please, but it
made so much sense. And but there were other individuals
who I felt the same way, the opposite of how
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you were feeling. They wanted her to stay. They were praying, Oh, God, healer,
and I'm like, it's not that I don't want my
mother to be here, said, I don't want.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Her to suffer exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Yeah, you see this pain, you see it. You see
them just not being theirself. They're a shadow of a body.
So I totally understand. Yeah, So my next question to
you would be who should read your book?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
So I think so one grief. Most of the time
I've run into people who say, oh, I'm not dealing
with grief right now, I don't need that. Well, here's
the thing. Either one you've experienced it to you're going
to experience it, or you already have. Grief doesn't play favorites,
and it hits all of us. And that's just the
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truth of it. When God gave me this book, I
didn't think I was grieving either. I was like, God,
why are you give me this book? I'm not grieving.
I don't need to write this book. So we could
talk about that part of it. But this book is
for those who want to move beyond the state of grief,
those who may be an active grief, and it's also
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an opportunity to remember our loved ones. So to say
anybody dealing with grief is kind of shortcoming. Because one
of my friends shout out to him, he just went
through a divorce and he read the book and I
love it. It's a story, he said. He stayed up
till three o'clock in the morning finishing the book, and
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he told me, he said, even, oh, I'm not dealing
with grief for the loss of a family member. I'm
dealing with grief and the loss of a marriage. And
he told me how the book helped him. So, no,
it wasn't. So it was grief period, not necessarily just
for dealing with loss of a loved one. But he
lost a marriage and that was a huge part of
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his life and his identity. And so he talked about
how the book helped him to move beyond that, how
it helped him to recognize, like we talked about the
five stages of grief and moving beyond that. Excuse me.
And so I was like, wow, thank you so much
for sharing that, because it is about grief in general.
You can lose a job, and you can lose a pet.
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Some people grief when they have to move from a house.
Excuse me. So grief in any aspect. I am a pastor,
so excuse me, I share with you. I just came
back from vacation sick. But anyway, and so there are
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times that I do put my pastor head on because
I know my faith. This world is not the end
for Christians. We will see our loved ones again.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Thereby go excuse me, but why we give her a
chance to get some more? Because everybody, y'all know what
time it is, right, I told her that.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I was praying.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
I give you, sweetheart, it is okay, It is okay.
You are a human. You are humans. Go ahead, take
a couple of SIPs, and I explain to you the
fun question. Okay, So fun questions always deal with entertainment
(20:50):
in the lines of music and actors actress. You know,
I love music, and I love movies and I love
TV series. So Lifetimes say, we love your book. We
would like to turn it into a movie, but you
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have to cast the leading male in the leading female.
But they can only be nineties gospel artists.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Oh my gosh, I was rolling with you for a
minute until I put that time period. Yeah, gospel artists,
My goodness. Okay, So I love Yolanda Adams I'm not
as tall as she is or as skinny as she is,
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but I love her power, Okay, I love her perseverance,
so I say she can play me. Let's see. So
for my father, so he was not necessarily a practicing Christian,
so he'd be tough to pick. God did me to
bring him back to the Lord before he died. Oh yeah,
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I do want to say. My grief book is not
just about my mother. It is my mother, my father,
A break up, A break up, y'all. Y'all been through
some traumatic breakups. Have mercy Jesus and a grandmother, great grandmother. Yeah,
in the middle of losing my mother and my grandmother.
But anyway, I digress. So, yes, a little juice in there,
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a little little yeah Jesus. Yeah, I would say what
you couldn't tell when I was engaged. But yeah, so
we had to do. And the clean version of what
I said was, uh, but God him not to be honest.
For my dad and my brother, that could be a
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little tough grandmother, let's do. Uh well, I don't know
my grandmother would tell you about yourself. So maybe a
Shirley Caesar for one of them. Uh see, I would
have picked ante labacity. You told me a gospel singer.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
You might need to use that leading mo because we
still got too more questions.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Okay, my bad, My bad. Okay, I don't know for
my dad and my brother because my brother was still
praying for his salvation praise guard. I don't know. I
only got me in the grandmother's dam.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Okay. So if I have to think a gospel artist
that lives, I want to say, lives on the edge,
but has that universal appeal. If he is for lack
of word, you guys hold me to that.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
TI. Yeah, I was singing C. C. Winings. TI trip
does as well, Kirk Franklin does. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
The only reason why I said Ti Trivia because my
daughter loves TI Triviant.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Okay, yes, Jesus, girl, you can dance like that, then
we can talk. Said we started.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Thank you. We got all these people right what they
were only gonna be used for the soundtrack. But now
we gotta get the actors. Okay, who would play you
in your book?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I'm gonna say Angela Bassett off of two of her roles,
so one of them and Waiting to Exhale was part
of my breakup series. That was one of that had
a lot to do during the breakup. And I love
her transition when she played Tina Turner, right, when you
make that decision that you are no longer the victim
(24:55):
because I got tired of being identified as a girl
whose mom died, the girl who's mom had cancer. I
got tired of that identity because I said, there's more
to me than just that. And so there was a
transition with Tina Turner, and there was a transition with
angelabassad and waiting to exhale. Right, she was no longer
the wife that, as Mary J. Blige say, sat by
(25:17):
your side for eleven years. I was your sick Taran.
So no longer that right, going into an empowerment stage,
And that's what that was, what my transition was of
this is not who I was eighteen. You can't lock
me into that identity at eighteen.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
You know, I don't even know who I'm going to be,
But I knew it wasn't gonna be the girl whose
mom died. I was that was an aspect of my life,
but I wanted to be my whole life. So I
would say that for her because the roles that she played,
and there was always a transition in it, and I
like that.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
That is true. Every role she has played has been
some type of transition yep. And always two empowerment.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Even a nine to one one, y'all. I love that show.
But this is new nine one one that got on
I can't deal with. He lost Bobby, he had what
was the basketball player? Uh Fox, Rick Fox? You know
she went there with her the name of that one, right,
and he helped to empower her. So all of that,
(26:23):
I look at at people, and because we should be
ever evolving, I guess maybe that's where I'm going. That
is true, because I mean there are four seasons, and
I think we changed twice as much. So all right,
Lifetime said, all right, this is beautiful. We got you
(26:44):
all settled. We're going to do the movie. But then, Hi,
this is Oprah Winfrey, and I want to give you
the opportunity to write with your favorite author, your favorite
pass sterial author.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
And why Okay, so let me say this. My favorite
genre of book or murder mysteries, not.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Story.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
But I'm being honest. I love to catch the murderers.
Those are my favorite things. I know. I write nonsense, Christian,
that's the next book gonna work. But I promise you
my favorite books. I got these lovely devotionals and all
of this stuff. But I promise you when I'm ready
to curl up in my chair with my tea and
my blanket. We somebody died, and we gotta said somebody died.
(27:41):
She got somebody.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
So if you had that opportunity, well, let's you know what,
let's strike that if you had the opportunity to write
a murder mystery with any body, anybody, it doesn't matter
who it is, Who would it be and what would
be the title?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Oh? He almost got away? Oh okay, okay, and that
and that scene comes me from The Color Girls with
Frank he almost got all my stuff? Uh so you know,
the murderers always think they won't get caught, right, So
(28:25):
he almost got away. See. I read so many different authors.
I'm in my mind. I'm thinking of all my favorite
TV shows, of which detectives and things. But I guess
I would have to go with Gosh, I just forgot
her name. Her her thing actually just got turned into
a series on ABC. Uh will Trent series? Oh my gosh,
(28:49):
you have to look it up. Uh yeah, so she
I've read all, I've read all of her books. I'm
gonna mess myself up because I'm really bad when it
comes to the names of my authors.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Me too, Me too.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
But she has you know, Karen Slaughter, so she is
one who I love. I like if it's an FBI
book or Cia all of that. I read all of that,
if it's a police detective. But I am just into
murder mystery. And so I used to read romance when
I was in college, and now I'm just like, so
(29:24):
nobody died, Like, what do you know? It does not intrigue.
I've transitioned as well. But I think I would like
to write a short series of a cute little romance,
but it would have to be like a short you know,
like a couple of short stories or something. I don't
think I could write a murder mystery, but I like
to read them.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Well, maybe you can put the romance and the murder
mystery together.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Because he almost got away.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
So let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I bet you used to sit down there and watch murder.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
She wrote, didn't you absolutely Columbus? Look, the old school
was Colombo Murder? She wrote, Mattlock. Okay, my age, right,
you know in the last I say, two or three years,
I got turned on to Perry Mason like that was
in black and white. That is how old that one is.
(30:23):
But I was just I mean, honestly, if somebody died,
I got to help these people solve the murder. We
got to go find the murderer. Sherry me soon.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Oh, sit up there and watch matt Antela Lansbury. I
tell her said, somebody gonna kill them too if they're
too noisy, especially Mattlock. He's always pop out of nowhere,
like what are you doing? Man?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I would not be friends with Angela Lansbury because somebody
around her always dies. She's not a good person to
be friends with. Okay, I was like, no.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
It's true.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I think Colombo is probably one of my favorite detectives
because he would always pretend like he was oblivious, didn't
know what was going a fumbling, bumbling detective, but he
always got his man or woman.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Here you go. I can only hit you with the
end the heat of the night. I can sit up
there looking at all day and even got a RUFU
channel for Indie heating night y'all so two o'clock in
the morning.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Can't sleep that is so true, true, it is always on.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Always. I love roucoul for doing stuff like that. Let
me stop, I digress. As we come to a close,
can you please tell what would you like to say
to your new readers, old readers and up and coming readers.
(31:54):
What do would you like to say to them?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I would like to say, I wrote a book call
this is so. This is from my church people. Okay,
those who go to church, you take all your sermon
notes and one one little book, right, and so because
I also had to add other stuff in there. So
one you take your notes every Sunday, and then at
the end of the month, I have a thing to
(32:17):
help you reflect over your pastor's sermons over the last month.
And then I also give you something. I'm really big
on spiritual growth, right, transition, If you'll see that about me,
I'm really big about transition. And so every month I
have a question in there for you to think about
for your spiritual growth. And then at the end of
the year, once you've completed that whole year, I give
you some more stuff. So there's that German notebooks. And
(32:39):
then of course you mentioned my book dealing with Grief
and how to Move Beyond it and published in the
last two weeks.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
But gold.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
This is the journal that goes with it. So this
journal evolved more than I thought that it would. I
thought initially I was just going to take a couple
other chapters from the book, give you something journal prompt,
blah blah blah, and I wasn't going to include all
the chapters. And then I would hear from people what reid,
those who had already read the book of what resonated
with them, and I was like, oh, so I need
(33:10):
include all of the chapters. And I added some others
from some of the feedback that I got from people,
And I am working on another book. So what I
would like to know is stick with your girl. We
are doing big things. Okay. So one of the things,
like I said, I talk a lot about spiritual growth.
(33:32):
I talk about evolution. I talk about growing and evolving.
So five years ago, did I know that I would
be doing all of this? No, Like I said, I
knew I would write a book. I did not know
I would write books. So that was something that just
kind of came out of the blue. So I don't
know all the types of books I'm going to write.
(33:53):
Right I'm listening to the Holy Spirit. Because here's the thing.
So when I got ready to write a book, this
is not the book that I was working on. I
was listening to a webinar that teaches you how to
write books. And God said, dealing with grief and how
to move beyond it. And I said, no, I'm not grieving.
What are you talking about? So I got multiporting. So
I've got this guy up here and I'm listening to
(34:13):
the webinar. God said it again, dealing with grief and
how to move beyond it. So I was like, okay,
and he gave me the first five chapters. So I
was like, whoa. So I still haven't written a book
that I was working on initially. So I don't know
all the books I'm going to write. Are all the
things I'm going to do. I'm just going to listen
to the whole spirit and follow him. So follow me
(34:35):
as I follow Christ.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
As Paul said, So, now, since be talking about follow you,
how about you give us the run down on social
media and anything else that you may have coming up.
How can we follow you?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Okay? So my YouTube page is pitiful, y'all come help
me out, okay, kyah, hold, go to go to YouTube.
I am so low on followers and all of that,
and I'm gonna do better with videos. But I am
on YouTube, i am on Instagram, I am on you LinkedIn,
I am on TikTok, and I'm on threads. So one
(35:14):
thing that I do do Here's a reason you should
follow me, is that I post something inspirational. Either's something
to help you deal with grief, something I'm always tying
it back to grief. Of course, as my books evolve,
it'll be with that. But so sometimes there are some
people who may never buy my book, and that's okay,
But what I hope that they get from the post
(35:34):
is some encouragement to hang in there. There are gray
days right for the book. There are days that are
that are gray and dark and you just feel like
you can't go on. And I want to give you
inspiration to tell you that there is hope, and so
I make I make the post just to kind of
encourage people throughout. I'm gonna try to do better with videos.
(35:54):
I'm gonna do better with videos, that's my pledge. But
most time I'm like, I don't have time, but.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
I understand, I'm gonna write I'm gonna do this video,
and you look like, oh, man, hold on, I'm tell
you yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
So but yeah, I just want to say that I'm excited.
I thank you for this opportunity to come and share
my story and pump up the book. And and I pray,
honestly for for anyone dealing with grief. I pray that
you don't get stuck in that there is hope on
the other side. There still can be joy in your life.
And so grief is a stage. One of the things
(36:40):
I have in there is don't stay in the state
you're in. You're in a state of grief, but don't
stay in it. You talked about how your mother was
preparing everyone to say goodbye. I have a chapter prepared
to say goodbye. I never realized my mother was prepared
to say goodbye to me until I wrote the book,
So I had a couple of Yeah. I didn't realize
it until I was writing, and I was like, oh,
(37:01):
my gosh, she was. I thought I was just, you know,
preparing to say goodbye her and she was doing the
same to me. So it's, uh, it's it's just that's all.
It was a blessing for me. It was very cathartic
because as I was writing, it was five years since
my father passed, and so it was it was good
(37:21):
to write about that and just to really prayerfully hopefully
help someone else.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
So you guys, remember, it's not always about losing someone.
It's about losing maybe a job, an animal, something you
had to let go and you're grieving over it. So
don't think that this book is only for when a
family member or someone you know has passed away. No, actually,
you know, grieving is a part of closure.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
So it is right because I have the breakup chapter,
the break up chapters in there. And then I also
had a friend who retired and they brought on a
state of grief for her because it was like, well
now what not? Oh yes, So when she read the
book and we talked about it, and she said, because
grief is grief, and I said, you're absolutely right, and
(38:09):
so even retirement can we think it's all exciting, but
sometimes it's like, well now what do I do?
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Absolutely right, So you guys go grab the book and
we're gonna bring it up on more time for you
all so you can see this beautiful book tonight. You
(38:38):
got all their social media information is strolling at to bomb,
so go give her some followers. I promise she'll do
one video before twenty five.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
I promise.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I promise better I post, I do post.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I mean I'm gonna do better on videos.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
So he does post. I have to bet. I've seen
her posts and I think I'm following you or we
might be already friends. But she does post me, you know,
and by yourself. I need to do the same thing.
And I promise. I know y'all been saying this for
how many years now, I promise, as.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
I always say, we're gonna make new life resolutions, not
New Years because years changed, but.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
New Year's resolution. I get through day one and that's
about it. I'm not even food by something this year.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
What you want to do for your life, that's my
pastor hat right there. Life. There you go.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Thank you for being with me tonight, Miss Hope, and
you guys, like I said, go grab the book, very
very very much needed for everybody because we're all gonna
lose something. So how about we just put this in
our back pocket for awesome Arsenal trying to learn some
new words. But you guys, it's another Tuesday night. Make
(40:00):
sure you join me. Next Tuesday, I'm gonna be on
the road, okay, you guys. So I'm going to the
South Carolina Library Conference, So i will be interviewing Melanie
Joy and we're gonna be talking about her book next Tuesday,
same time. APM. Again, Thank you, mss Hope, and you
(40:22):
guys remember there's no such thing as an old book
because not everybody has read every book. You guys have
a great night. Bye.
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