September 15, 2025 • 39 mins
"THE ROYAL MIC" is a podcast hosted by Zachery Williams, where the motto is "Where Every Voice Wears the Crown". The show focuses on topics such as mental health and self-care, and it is part of the DA CREW Podcast Network.Key details about the podcast:
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- Host: Zachery Williams.
- Motto: "Where Every Voice Wears the Crown".
- Topics: Covers subjects like mental health, self-care, life after college, and personal projects.
- Network: The podcast is broadcast on the DA CREW Podcast Network.
- Schedule: It airs live on the first and third Monday of each month at 7 PM EST.
- Availability: Episodes can be found on platforms like iHeartRadio, Spreaker, and YouTube.
- Key points about his background and work:
- Advocacy and mission: Williams is vocal about his personal motivation to speak for those who feel voiceless and underestimated, stating that "every story matters".
- Professional goals: He aims to grow as a communicator, build authentic connections, and create a positive impact through unfiltered, purposeful conversations about tough topics.
- Education: He has mentioned his time as an accounting student at Voorhees University.
- Collaborations: Williams joined the DA CREW network because he felt its mission of fostering community and authentic storytelling aligned with his own. He has worked with authors and other hosts as part of his role.
- Broadening men's perspectives: He specifically hopes to amplify the stories of men and shine a light on conversations that don't always get enough attention.
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Speaker 1 (01:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:57):
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Speaker 3 (02:47):
Hey you guys. It's your boy master Zachary all his.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
One thing two man, it is the Royal Night. Man.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
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Speaker 1 (03:07):
I had a great weekend. I helped you too.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Man.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Welcome to your royal mic man. I have a special guests.
We went to the same school, graduate the same class.
She is amazing.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
She is everything in the book. We're gonna bring her
right along. We're not gonna take her too long. We're
gonna bring on Tranessa right now. We speak, hold on
and are we We're gonna.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
There we go. How you doing it?
Speaker 5 (03:54):
I am doing great. I cannot complain. I'm just happy
to be here. I'm just happy to be here.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
How you doing, girl? I am doing okay. Girl has
been a long, long, long day. Soul girl, thank you.
I just want to say thank you for just making
free time coming on the Royal Mic. As you know,
we we we I would say this, this is your room, assay,
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that's minds.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
We gather here.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
You know, as you know, we're gonna talk about mental health.
We're gonna talk about life.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
We're gonna talk life.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Life has been longer. But before we get started, tell
the listeners about yourself. Let's get an introduction about you girl.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Okay, my name is Jenessa Wingo. I go by Jenessa Guil.
That's my first and middle name. I have no pseuitonyms,
no stage names, just Jenessa Gil That's me. I'm twenty
eight years old. I went to Landum High School. I
graduated in twenty fifteen. I then to Vorhees where I
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met mer Dack and I graduated in twenty nineteen with
him with my master my bachelor's in accounting. I am
currently pursuing my master's in accounting at Straighter University. But
I love my HBCU. I missed for He's just love it.
(05:22):
It was it was a ball. I haven't been back
since I graduated, but I need to make a trip
to a homecoming or something. But back to me. I
am an accounts fable specialists for PCA. I love it.
It is my job is a nonprofit. It is where
help meets hope and we do just that. We do
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utility assistance, we do housing assistants. I love it. I
love watching us help the community. I've been on the
receiving end, so I just I love it. I love
everything about my job. Currently, I have two children. They
are sixteen months apart. My oldest is three, my youngest
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is two. I love it. I love motherhood. I love it.
It's been It's a crazy journey. Is awesome.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
It's so awesome speaking of motherhood. Like, let's let's talk
about motherhood. Like, like you said, you have two beautiful
kids right now, Like like from not having kids and
having kids now, like what goes through your mind?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
You know what? What makes you happy having your kids
around now in these days?
Speaker 5 (06:41):
So, before I had kids, I thought I was gonna
be the fun auntie, the drunk untie, the rich auntie.
I didn't think that kids was in my books. I
didn't think that was in my But I did settle
down and we do have a family now and it's crazy.
It's absolutely crazy. Like the whole experience of being pregnant
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was a journey. For sure. Before I was pregnant, I
was ninety eight pounds for both of my pregnancies. Right
before I had both of my boys, I was one
hundred and eighty six pounds, so I and when you're pregnant,
you're only supposed to gain forty max and that's one
pound a week. But baby, listen, I spread like butta,
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I was just it was just crazy. I was big, big,
super big house big, hou was really big. But then
once I had them, it was crazy because you know,
you have this thing called pregnancy brain when you're pregnant
and you just you know, forget everything, all this and that.
But once you have your child, your your brain realters
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itself to where you bond with your child, so you
don't think logically, you're just thinking emotionally for like two
years after you have your children. Your child, my first born,
I breastfed for fourteen months, so that was a different. Yeah,
that was crazy too. Being food I do not recommend
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it was it was really crazy. Like we were connected
so much, so like I knew every time he was hungry,
even when I wasn't around, and it didn't matter like
if I was getting.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Full or not.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
It was just like I could feel him like I
would text. I would text my fiance and be like, hey,
is the boys hungry or something? And he would be
it's like, yeah, he started crying. He's crying right now.
Oh he just did this, And it's like I would
feel it, but I'm nowhere near him, but it's just
like I would feel it too. It was It's crazy
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like when mothers say like, that's my heart outside my body,
they really mean it, because it's just a crazy connection
that you really can't you can't put a finger on it.
You just you know you're willing and willing, ready and
able to take it however far it needs to go
for your kids.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
So I have a question for you.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Did you ever deal with depression or poor model depression
as female calls it.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Yes, So, the the depression you don't know you're in it.
It's a functional depression. You have no idea you're in it.
You have no idea you're going through it. One day
you just you realize like, wait, I'm not just a mom,
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I'm a person too. And then when you have that
thought like because at first, once you have your kid,
your kids, everything, your kids everything, you don't you don't
care how you look like. You know when people be like, oh,
I can look a mess, but my kid look good.
Ant wrong.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
If you love.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Yourself, you'll look good too. You just like you love
your kid, You're gonna make sure your kid dressed up.
You're gonna make sure you're dressed up too. But you
don't know that until you realize, like, wait, I'm more
than a mom. Once you have that thought, then the
depression's over, but it takes you a while to get there.
I didn't have that thought until my firstborn was born
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in March of twenty twenty two, and I didn't realize
that I had the postpartum depression until July twenty twenty four.
So I had no idea I was depressed. I was
just I was getting up for work, work and creating routines,
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staying to the routines, doing the things that I was
supposed to do as a mother, as a person. But
it just was like I was doing it because that's
what I was supposed to do, Like I wasn't doing
it because I wanted to. I was just doing it
because it was like, Okay, I have to make money,
I have to take care. I gotta drop them off
at daycare, I gotta pick them up. It wasn't like
a I want to do this. Like now that I'm
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not depressed, obviously, you know, I'm back on the scene.
I'm back on social media. I was off of social
medias for a long time. Didn't post my kids for
a really long time. I actually didn't start posting my
kids until this year, and my oldest is born two thousand.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Somebody doing donuts to nakodasac you know, no biggie biggie.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
So like being a mom, you know you you kind
of have to druggle everything, you know, career, Like you said,
you know, dig care to pick them up, you gotta
feed them. You know, you gotta self care. So how
did you manage not to lose yourself and all of that?
(11:43):
You know, you you got to take care of yourself
because if you don't take care of yourself, you know
your kids will see it, your kids will feed off
of it.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
So how did you handle it?
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Routines, you set the tone from the time you start
your day. We start our day with mister b good
morning song. That's the tone for a good positive day.
They know. Routines keeps everybody grounded, It keeps us moving smoothly, effortlessly,
and the transitions will because a lot of people don't realize,
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like when you have a kid, you know, you have
a little human like people people just be like, oh,
I want a baby, Oh I got baby fever. Oh
babies are so cute, Like okay, but do you realize,
like you're having to You're gonna have this little thing
and it's not even gonna know how to use its limbs.
It's not gonna know how to pick its neck, up,
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its hands, nothing. All its knows is to make how
to produce sound to let you know it's crying. It
don't even know how to let you know what it wants.
It don't even know what it wants, gotta pee, just peed,
don't know anything. They're just literally here and we have
to teach them everything, Like you have to teach them huddle,
wash your face, brush your teeth, regular, you know, regular
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everyday activities. You have to teach them, and then you
have to teach them to be productive, good, well behaved
citizens of America, Like.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
You can't just well behaved citizen like well be here, Yeah, Like.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Well, you gotta make sure your kid is well behaved, productive,
and just very well rounded. Cause a lot of even
parents they don't know to teach their kids that because
they're not really really well rounded. No shade is teeth
And I'm just saying. I'm saying like I had, I had,
I'm in therapy now, Like you have to continue to
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better yourself. Everything is constantly improving. Like you can't be
still in one section and be like, oh, I'm good here, Like,
especially if you're a parent, you have to constantly continue
to evolve and get better and better so your kids
can see and you can teach your kids to be better.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
So like you say something like definitely generation you know,
you said something about, you know, teaching your kids how
to you know, be real rounded, because we want out.
You want this generation that you have now to be
better than for who you are. You know, everybody everybody
in the world want their parents. They want the kids
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to be better than who they are as today. So
what advice but you can give mothers who is listening
or who going to listen later on? What advice can
you give them?
Speaker 5 (14:36):
You have to get in therapy, whatever you believe, like,
you have to be well rounded. You have to be
in physical shape, so work out. If you don't work
out a working out to your schedule, you have to
work out like our body needs it. Like you don't
want your body shutting down at twenty or thirty forty,
like you need to work out. Make sure you're doing
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something physical for your body. Make sure you're doing something
for your mental health. Make sure you're doing something for
your spiritual health. Make sure you're a well rounded individual.
So you can lead by example for your kids. And
it's never gonna stop because yeah, they might be toddlers now,
but they're gonna be teenagers one day. Then they gonna
be young adults. So you have to set the tone.
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Even though you know sometimes people put they're all into kids,
they put their kids in therapy and make sure they
hit all those points, and then their kids just still
decide like this is what I'm gonna do, and this
is which way I'm gonna go, and at that point
you know you can handle that. Then it's not a guarantee.
There's no handbook really on if if I put my
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kid in therapy, if I make sure my kid's working out.
If I make sure my kid's doing everything, I'm gonna
have the perfect citizen. It's like, I'm not saying that,
but I am saying it will help.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I would say a lot of people, you know, especially
said therapy. A lot of people now these days, a
lot of kids, a lot of doubts down the days,
are going to therapy, are getting help, are getting the tools,
proper tools, how to deal with the emotion, how to
deal with anxiety, because I know for me it took
a long time to go see your therapy.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Even I don't see a therapist now because I don't
need therapy right now.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
But the tools when whatever was in therapy, the tools
that we I had, it teach me how to navigate
like cause you know life, it's time life have the upsidowms.
You know, life will throw you something that you are
not even ready for. Oh yeah, it is not even
ready for it.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
And so go ahead.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
I was gonna say, even like that, when you get
thrown stuff that you're not ready for, everything has a proper,
a proper process that it has to go through. When
you lose somebody, you need to go through grieving therapy.
A lot of us don't and a lot of us
are one attitude away from snapping on somebody and losing
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their freedom because now you just snap on some cause
you going through you know, you don't lost your mom.
For let's say you don't lost your mom, and now
you ain't did nothing to heal from that. You just
stuck in this mentality walking around all day think that
you're okay, and you're not. You haven't done any type
of healing. You haven't even started the grieving process. So
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you know, those people in society, those people snap they
need like you know, you tell somebody have a good day,
and it's fucked your day, it's like dang, you know,
it's like dann, what happened was wrong? What you going through?
And a lot of the time just because we don't
even have compassion for people anymore too, Like if you
was to ask somebody what they going through when they
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just snap at you, A lot of people don't do that.
We matching energies.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I'm a I'm a person like that. I think you can't.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
You gotta you gotta be the difference or make the difference.
You got to. You can't say like, oh, I I
don't like when people, you know, people just flip out
on somebody or whatever. That's why I'm in therapy. I
learn how to deal with my emotions. I learn how
to understand what I'm feeling and why I'm feeling it
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that way, and how to continue forward and not necessarily
mess my day up, mess somebody else's day up. You know,
walk around mad because one thing may be mad. I
just talk through Okay, well why am I mad? Okay?
Or why do you feel that way? Okay? Well what
do you need to do to not feel this way again? Okay?
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And then I'm done with it. I'm not basking in
it walking around mad. Now I'm mad all day every day.
It's like you gotta really heal, and it's all a process.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I think for that, I think a lot of people,
like somebody in the comments saying like okay, want to
ask to the way in facts, cause you never know
what a person is going through, and first of all,
you might go off on the wrong person, and then
that's the same energy and y'all y'all fighting.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Right exactly because you never know how far is somebody
willing to take it. Like you can look at me
and be like, dang, she's positive. She promote positivity. She did,
she dies, She don't ever judge. She always see the
good in people, which I do, I promise you I do,
but right positive, not plussy, don't disrespect me. We're gonna
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have to take it there, you know, like we don't
really have to do it, and we ain't even got
to do that, you know, Like I want to help you, like,
let's help each other. Like I feel like one of
the biggest things in society is where we don't know
how to use other people. That's why I'm starting my
podcast because I feel like people really do need people.
You need to know that it's okay go through what
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you're going through, like if somebody else has went through it,
that you're not the only one, you know. And I
feel like in societ we don't really give everybody that
grace anymore. We don't.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I think on top of that, I think it starts
with even when our friends, because our friends, you know,
we go with our friends go through a lot of things.
You know, we don't give our friends grace, even people
like you said grace and the fact that it's like
why she laugh or why she bring this attitude for
you never know what is going through you don't never
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know like, and that's what saying.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I tell people who I work that, good morning, how
you doing?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Because for me at my job, I am I will laugh,
I will smile, like I'll bring them the good energy
when I come with not an attitude when I'm coming,
like if I don't see anything, like the whole room
will literally turn and be like, what is wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
And it'd be like, and I can't help people like nothing,
I'm doing fine. It'd be like you're lying.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah, and my energy feels and I hate that my
energy he feeds off other people energy.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Yeah, And I think.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
That's a bad thing for me because I don't like
I don't even though I feel a bad I don't
want you to feel bad. I don't want like the
whole like the whole room got turned down because I
have an attitude. Yeah, you you are definitely right on grace.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
So in your point of life, like what defines you,
like in point of your life defines you as the
person as today as you look back on your life
as a child, as a teenager, you know, as a
young adult, you know, as a mother, what defines you
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as today?
Speaker 5 (21:42):
I would say so last July July twenty third, twenty four,
my grandmother passed away. And my grandmother was an amazing woman,
Like I did community work with her all my life.
We didn't mills on wheels where we were taking hot
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meals to people who couldn't leave their home. We volunteered
at this place called Operation Hope. We volunteered at this
place called Hospice Born. We volunteered at hospice where we
would just take the patient stuff. And she was a
woman of God. She was very honest with everybody, and
she didn't have to cush you out to be honest
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with you. She's like, this is her truth, and you
know if you don't agree with it, then you know
that's you going right. Like I unsaid what I had
to say, And when I was saying remarks at my
grandmother's funeral and I was explaining to everybody what type
of woman she was, that's when I realized, that's what
type of woman I want to be. And I have
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since then. I started working for a nonprofit like I
was saying though, where we helped the community, and I
feel like numbers and helping I feel like those things
really define me, like who I am as a person.
And luckily, working at this nonprofit, I'm able to mix
them both together. But I would definitely say my grandmother
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is like her. Her legacy is I guess what I
would say defines me right now because I want to
uphold her legacy. I want to be exact everything that
I explain to everybody else of what she was. I
want to be. I want somebody when I passed, I
want somebody to be saying the same exact stuff I
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said about her about me.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
And I think some people like especially with me, I
say I'll get I think it takes a lot of
people who to find who I am as today, like
it took a whole village to raise me, not just
like one person. And the only thing I would say
for me personally that even though I'm a joking, even
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though I laugh, even though I I do a lot
of things in life, nobody can never tell me that.
I never feel I never give up in life. Yeah,
and you know I always try to find ways to
make sure it is done into my way, not nobody
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else's way, because you.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Can't tell me.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
You can tell me no, but eventually somebody's going to
tell me yes, right, or if nobody tell me.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yes, I'm gonna make my own way.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Right, I am just like that. We bet on ourselves.
We don't take no for an answer. We just adjust
so we can complete the mission because we know what
we're capable of. Whether other people know what we're capable
of or not, that's on them. We can show them.
But it's never we have to prove something. It's never that.
It never gives that, it gives. I'm doing what I
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want to do. This is the path that I want
to go go down. This is the accomplishments that I
want to accomplish, and I'm getting. You know, we know
what timeline we want our lives on, and everybody else
around they watching it. They either with us or gainst
us on the way or on our team. You know
what I'm saying, Like, it's not I'm the same as
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that way. I feel every single word you said I felt.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I think it's just the fact that a lot of
people try to down prayer us are kind of be
like why she doing this, or probably envious or jealous
or just I feel sorry for you.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Like no, See, that's the other thing that I fit.
While I feel like people need people because I've never
been jealous of someone. I am always inspired. Everybody inspire me.
There is not one single person that I see that
I ever see something and be like, oh my god,
why does she have that? And I don't I be
like damn, what am I have to do to get at?
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Like it ain't never, It's like I'm always I'm always
inspired and encouraged, like, Okay, she do it, I can
do it too, Like okay, Like well, me wanted to
go back to get my masters. I was like, okay,
there's no I can do it. I got two small kids,
I'm working myer in my career already for my bachelor's.
I can't go get my master's too. Then I met
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my friend Shi kena shout out to her, and she
was like, girl, I took my final for my masters
the couple of hours before I gave birth to my youngest.
I was like, huh, I said what. She was like, yeah, girl,
I had she had two kids already and she was
having her third one and she still secured her masters.
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I was like, I have no excuses. I was instantly
inspired and guess what I did well? Ill then signed
up for school. Guess what I'm in school? Dude? Like
you can't just see somebody and be like, oh I
can never get that, or oh I wish y'all had
that like make away. That's why I was just talking about,
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like I don't like when people stay still like you can.
You can't stay in one spot. You can't be comfortable.
You have to you have to stretch, you have to
expand you have to do more always and I always advance.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Why we have to advance, and it's the fact that
stagnant And that's how we talked about stagnant being earlier.
You know, I feel like in my career I'm stagnant,
and I just I feel like I'm in this little
funk like it's about to shift, and I don't know
how it's gonna shift. It's gonna shift, and a lot
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of people is not gonna like how it shifts.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
It's gonna depend on my like my friendship. I don't know,
it's gonna depend on my family.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
It's going to do a lot of things because a
lot of people don't know that when people started to shift,
things start moving right. People not expect us to move
a certain way. That's why I like having a conversation
with you. It's just like you know what you want,
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you do know what you want.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
And honestly, I've always known, like I always knew I
wanted to be an accountant, you know, like how that's
like a great area for people when they go to college,
they'd be like, oh, and then they change majors, they changed.
I was like, I want to go to college to
be an accountant, Like I already knew that, and I
just didn't know where I was gonna go, but I
knew what I wanted to do. And then when I
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was in college, I had a great time.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Oh girl, we had a great time.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
A lot of people, a lot.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Of people counting me out because we was having such
a great time. You know, it was like, you know,
she ain't gonna graduate, she ain't gonna make it. Then
she Then I graduated, I'm talking about she. Then I graduated.
Then they like, oh, well, she ain't gonna not with it.
Then I moved to Atlanta, and now, well, you know,
it's always.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
It's always something they want to find excuse for any thing.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
The fact that when we prove them wrong.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
It's not the fact that like we hit we always
take people talking and moving in the brushes and the rush.
But baby, we we lit's say we have something our heart.
Nobody will get in our pathway. We are going to
a conscious no matter why. And if I tell them
all my friends, like, yo, I'm here with you, I
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ain't leaving with you now. If you're not gonna hop
on this trend with me and go do's ride with me?
Are you not gonna take advantage of what we are
doing here? But baby, we are in again. We are
in the wrong group.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Right, That's what That's what I had to realize. Like
before I started doing my TikTok, and once I realized,
like I have my voice, I need to use it.
I was in a lot of spaces where I wasn't
wanting it, I wasn't needed, I wasn't value, I wasn't appreciated.
So I didn't know, you know, I was just just
(30:18):
kind of stuck in a spot, like stuck in the
space where it's like, Okay, I'm not really around like
minded people. You know, life done changed. I got kids now,
like I want new different things. And then I had to,
you know, I had to change my space. I'm like,
(30:38):
I'm in the wrong space. And when I when I
got in the right space at Blossom, like I just
took over the room, like I'm like, this is a
space where I belong, this is where I'm appreciated, this
is where I'm wanted, this is where I'm needed, and
then that's where I'm thriving at. Like before, it's hard
if you when you change or when you know like Okay,
that's who I used to be, this who I am now,
(30:59):
or this is what direction I'm going. You you got
to say a lot of hard goodbyes to people like okay,
like we were best friends, but now you're okay with
saying in the same spot, or you want me to
do the You're holding me to the person I used
to be and you're not changing your reference point to now.
So it's like it's like sorry, my youngest was satifying,
(31:26):
but his uncle's here.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Going okay, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
But yeah, I got you, I got you.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Listen, it has been a great time. I'm telling you
when your friends and when your family don't understand what
you are about to do and did like I said
that jealousy, that envy are right, they can't be what you.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Want to do.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Baby, It's okay, I still love you, but baby, we
about to back off.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Our bags had on the trim.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
You gonna take a trip because if you're not gonna
join us, and you you want to be in this
little space that you're in, it is cool.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I'm not mad at that, right do you?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
But I'm not to take myself for me as you
blossom right now, I have to take myself and blossom
somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
It's not me that I'm into my friendship with you.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Sometimes it happens, but it's just the fact that I'm
ready to shift and you are at you are shifted.
I'm about to go to another level, but you're not
prepared to go at right.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
I was just I was I literally was just talking
about it because it's hard, like it's hard to want
more for somebody else, because that's ultimately what it is.
You're It's like, you're okay with being where you are,
and I want more for you. I want you to
be more because I'm going to be more. But if
you're okay right there, then that's fine. But I'm going
(32:58):
to be more. You know, I'm on the moor train,
You're on the stay where you are, And it's like,
like you said, It don't mean that you don't love
them anymore or anything. We just on two different paths,
paths on aligne. Like you know, we were we were
our past were work and now they're And it's.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Okay, right, And the fact that a lot of people
need to realize it's okay to be okay.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
And it's fine when people don't understand you. It's fine
when people start looking at you funny. It's fine when
people started to question you, why are you doing this?
It is fine because it's not meant for you. It's
not meant for everybody else around you. It's meant for
that person you and eventually me, myself and I. It
(33:51):
is meant for you. It's a gift for you. It's
something that you have to work with and it's something
that you it's dealt to you. Don't don't let don't
let that door close, right, And it's meant for you
because that might be the only door that's possible for
you to blossom, right.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
And see, And that's the thing too, It's just like
I said when I was in that box, you gotta
know what area where you're appreciated, where you're wanted, where
you're needed and then you start to become so confident
you can't you can't deny the progression that you've made.
Like you might have been one person or at one
(34:35):
spot in your life. Now you're at a different spot
in your life, and it's just like, okay, I'm not
you know, I'm not in the right spot. And then
you move to like, for instance, for me, for TikTok,
I've only been on TikTok since July thirteenth. But the
purpose of me going on TikTok was I wanted to
(34:57):
expand my vocabulary. You know, I'm from spot very South Carolina.
I sound country, I know I do. I try my
best not to. I try to pronounce all my words correctly.
I try to sound like water. I do not want
to have an accent. I don't want you to hear
where I'm I don't want you to hear my voice
and know where I'm from. I don't like that. I
don't want that. I don't want to sound like I'm
(35:18):
from the South. So I, you know, started posting a
vocabulary word today. And here we are at September fifteenth,
and I have expanded on there like I'm obviously I
have met my crowd like the people that they love
either they love my vibe. They follow me, they want
to just learn a word. They follow me, but they
(35:40):
let me know too, Like they message me and they
say like I love seeing, Like a lot of the
compliments that I get they say, I love seeing. You
put a different narrative on black women. A lot of people.
A lot of people see black women, they automatically think uneducated,
all this, all this, all this and that, but you
(36:02):
come to my page or shut shaking shaking ass is
what a lot of people say. Or provocative clothing. Just
want to be seen. And I do want to be seen,
but just not my body, Like I don't want to
be lusted over. I want to be seen from my mind.
I want to be seeing the difference that I make.
I don't want to be seen for oh look, you know,
(36:23):
she thicker than a snicker. I don't want that kind
of attention, you know, I want I want me, my
mental to make a difference in that to be seen.
And it has been being seen, and it's so nice.
It's so nice. It's just like, wow, thank you for
seeing me. I'll be saying that all the time, like
that's one of my safe responses because it's just like
(36:46):
I really feel seen, I feel valued, I feel cherished,
like thank you, And it's just from being on TikTok.
It's like I'm in the right room I'm supposed to
be in and my own page posting, and the people
come to me and they appreciate me, and it's nice.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
All rights, girl, and it's powered to people. Girl, it's
great to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
I'm telling you girls, y'all just got a little taste.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
I have a little taste girl.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Because when we come back on my other network, Black Canvas, Girl,
we are going to dive in deep for her and
I have another guess what her.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
We're gonna check that out September.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
And also girl, any advice anything you want to let
to know the people know who are listening now, Like
what you got coming out where you're doing, how big
a value?
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (37:40):
Yes, yes, okay. So I am on TikTok at Jenessa
dot Gil. I am on YouTube at JG with jg
I am on Instagram as jg W. But it's all
(38:00):
felled out a little complicated. It's j gee double like
two and then you like y owe you. So those
are my panhandles. I will be starting a podcast. It's
called Just Guidance with Jenessa Gale Me and that is
(38:22):
going to be on Halloween. I'm going to be premiering
it and I will be back with mister Zach on
the thirtieth.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Yes, sir, check it out, man listen. Thank you so much.
Thank you for my listeners who have been listening. I
have read the comments throughout all social media. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
If you are want more of her, check out Black
Canvas Septemy thirtieth on Belly Nation Online Radio, where I
will be.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
At at nine thirty. Thank you, and I love y'all.
Y'all have a great mind. And this astor royal mic, this.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
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Speaker 1 (39:08):
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Speaker 2 (01:13):
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Speaker 3 (01:23):
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Speaker 1 (01:28):
Mane this sounds still going.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I think this sounds gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I have your attention please. The show starts in ten line.
Ladies and gentlemen, may I have your attention please? The
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show starts in ten line eight, seven, six, five, four
three two one go.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Hey you guys. It's your boy master Zachary all his.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
One thing two man, it is the Royal Night. Man.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
I hope y'all have been doing great, because I have
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Speaker 1 (03:07):
I had a great weekend. I helped you too.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Man.
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Welcome to your royal mic man. I have a special guests.
We went to the same school, graduate the same class.
She is amazing.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
She is everything in the book. We're gonna bring her
right along. We're not gonna take her too long. We're
gonna bring on Tranessa right now. We speak, hold on
and are we We're gonna.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
There we go. How you doing it?
Speaker 5 (03:54):
I am doing great. I cannot complain. I'm just happy
to be here. I'm just happy to be here.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
How you doing, girl? I am doing okay. Girl has
been a long, long, long day. Soul girl, thank you.
I just want to say thank you for just making
free time coming on the Royal Mic. As you know,
we we we I would say this, this is your room, assay,
(04:22):
that's minds.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
We gather here.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
You know, as you know, we're gonna talk about mental health.
We're gonna talk about life.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
We're gonna talk life.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Life has been longer. But before we get started, tell
the listeners about yourself. Let's get an introduction about you girl.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Okay, my name is Jenessa Wingo. I go by Jenessa Guil.
That's my first and middle name. I have no pseuitonyms,
no stage names, just Jenessa Gil That's me. I'm twenty
eight years old. I went to Landum High School. I
graduated in twenty fifteen. I then to Vorhees where I
(05:01):
met mer Dack and I graduated in twenty nineteen with
him with my master my bachelor's in accounting. I am
currently pursuing my master's in accounting at Straighter University. But
I love my HBCU. I missed for He's just love it.
(05:22):
It was it was a ball. I haven't been back
since I graduated, but I need to make a trip
to a homecoming or something. But back to me. I
am an accounts fable specialists for PCA. I love it.
It is my job is a nonprofit. It is where
help meets hope and we do just that. We do
(05:45):
utility assistance, we do housing assistants. I love it. I
love watching us help the community. I've been on the
receiving end, so I just I love it. I love
everything about my job. Currently, I have two children. They
are sixteen months apart. My oldest is three, my youngest
(06:07):
is two. I love it. I love motherhood. I love it.
It's been It's a crazy journey. Is awesome.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
It's so awesome speaking of motherhood. Like, let's let's talk
about motherhood. Like, like you said, you have two beautiful
kids right now, Like like from not having kids and
having kids now, like what goes through your mind?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
You know what? What makes you happy having your kids
around now in these days?
Speaker 5 (06:41):
So, before I had kids, I thought I was gonna
be the fun auntie, the drunk untie, the rich auntie.
I didn't think that kids was in my books. I
didn't think that was in my But I did settle
down and we do have a family now and it's crazy.
It's absolutely crazy. Like the whole experience of being pregnant
(07:04):
was a journey. For sure. Before I was pregnant, I
was ninety eight pounds for both of my pregnancies. Right
before I had both of my boys, I was one
hundred and eighty six pounds, so I and when you're pregnant,
you're only supposed to gain forty max and that's one
pound a week. But baby, listen, I spread like butta,
(07:28):
I was just it was just crazy. I was big, big,
super big house big, hou was really big. But then
once I had them, it was crazy because you know,
you have this thing called pregnancy brain when you're pregnant
and you just you know, forget everything, all this and that.
But once you have your child, your your brain realters
(07:52):
itself to where you bond with your child, so you
don't think logically, you're just thinking emotionally for like two
years after you have your children. Your child, my first born,
I breastfed for fourteen months, so that was a different. Yeah,
that was crazy too. Being food I do not recommend
(08:14):
it was it was really crazy. Like we were connected
so much, so like I knew every time he was hungry,
even when I wasn't around, and it didn't matter like
if I was getting.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Full or not.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
It was just like I could feel him like I
would text. I would text my fiance and be like, hey,
is the boys hungry or something? And he would be
it's like, yeah, he started crying. He's crying right now.
Oh he just did this, And it's like I would
feel it, but I'm nowhere near him, but it's just
like I would feel it too. It was It's crazy
(08:51):
like when mothers say like, that's my heart outside my body,
they really mean it, because it's just a crazy connection
that you really can't you can't put a finger on it.
You just you know you're willing and willing, ready and
able to take it however far it needs to go
for your kids.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
So I have a question for you.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Did you ever deal with depression or poor model depression
as female calls it.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Yes, So, the the depression you don't know you're in it.
It's a functional depression. You have no idea you're in it.
You have no idea you're going through it. One day
you just you realize like, wait, I'm not just a mom,
(09:39):
I'm a person too. And then when you have that
thought like because at first, once you have your kid,
your kids, everything, your kids everything, you don't you don't
care how you look like. You know when people be like, oh,
I can look a mess, but my kid look good.
Ant wrong.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
If you love.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Yourself, you'll look good too. You just like you love
your kid, You're gonna make sure your kid dressed up.
You're gonna make sure you're dressed up too. But you
don't know that until you realize, like, wait, I'm more
than a mom. Once you have that thought, then the
depression's over, but it takes you a while to get there.
I didn't have that thought until my firstborn was born
(10:14):
in March of twenty twenty two, and I didn't realize
that I had the postpartum depression until July twenty twenty four.
So I had no idea I was depressed. I was
just I was getting up for work, work and creating routines,
(10:35):
staying to the routines, doing the things that I was
supposed to do as a mother, as a person. But
it just was like I was doing it because that's
what I was supposed to do, Like I wasn't doing
it because I wanted to. I was just doing it
because it was like, Okay, I have to make money,
I have to take care. I gotta drop them off
at daycare, I gotta pick them up. It wasn't like
a I want to do this. Like now that I'm
(10:57):
not depressed, obviously, you know, I'm back on the scene.
I'm back on social media. I was off of social
medias for a long time. Didn't post my kids for
a really long time. I actually didn't start posting my
kids until this year, and my oldest is born two thousand.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Somebody doing donuts to nakodasac you know, no biggie biggie.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
So like being a mom, you know you you kind
of have to druggle everything, you know, career, Like you said,
you know, dig care to pick them up, you gotta
feed them. You know, you gotta self care. So how
did you manage not to lose yourself and all of that?
(11:43):
You know, you you got to take care of yourself
because if you don't take care of yourself, you know
your kids will see it, your kids will feed off
of it.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
So how did you handle it?
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Routines, you set the tone from the time you start
your day. We start our day with mister b good
morning song. That's the tone for a good positive day.
They know. Routines keeps everybody grounded, It keeps us moving smoothly, effortlessly,
and the transitions will because a lot of people don't realize,
(12:19):
like when you have a kid, you know, you have
a little human like people people just be like, oh,
I want a baby, Oh I got baby fever. Oh
babies are so cute, Like okay, but do you realize,
like you're having to You're gonna have this little thing
and it's not even gonna know how to use its limbs.
It's not gonna know how to pick its neck, up,
(12:40):
its hands, nothing. All its knows is to make how
to produce sound to let you know it's crying. It
don't even know how to let you know what it wants.
It don't even know what it wants, gotta pee, just peed,
don't know anything. They're just literally here and we have
to teach them everything, Like you have to teach them huddle,
wash your face, brush your teeth, regular, you know, regular
(13:05):
everyday activities. You have to teach them, and then you
have to teach them to be productive, good, well behaved
citizens of America, Like.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
You can't just well behaved citizen like well be here, Yeah, Like.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Well, you gotta make sure your kid is well behaved, productive,
and just very well rounded. Cause a lot of even
parents they don't know to teach their kids that because
they're not really really well rounded. No shade is teeth
And I'm just saying. I'm saying like I had, I had,
I'm in therapy now, Like you have to continue to
(13:41):
better yourself. Everything is constantly improving. Like you can't be
still in one section and be like, oh, I'm good here, Like,
especially if you're a parent, you have to constantly continue
to evolve and get better and better so your kids
can see and you can teach your kids to be better.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
So like you say something like definitely generation you know,
you said something about, you know, teaching your kids how
to you know, be real rounded, because we want out.
You want this generation that you have now to be
better than for who you are. You know, everybody everybody
in the world want their parents. They want the kids
(14:22):
to be better than who they are as today. So
what advice but you can give mothers who is listening
or who going to listen later on? What advice can
you give them?
Speaker 5 (14:36):
You have to get in therapy, whatever you believe, like,
you have to be well rounded. You have to be
in physical shape, so work out. If you don't work
out a working out to your schedule, you have to
work out like our body needs it. Like you don't
want your body shutting down at twenty or thirty forty,
like you need to work out. Make sure you're doing
(14:58):
something physical for your body. Make sure you're doing something
for your mental health. Make sure you're doing something for
your spiritual health. Make sure you're a well rounded individual.
So you can lead by example for your kids. And
it's never gonna stop because yeah, they might be toddlers now,
but they're gonna be teenagers one day. Then they gonna
be young adults. So you have to set the tone.
(15:19):
Even though you know sometimes people put they're all into kids,
they put their kids in therapy and make sure they
hit all those points, and then their kids just still
decide like this is what I'm gonna do, and this
is which way I'm gonna go, and at that point
you know you can handle that. Then it's not a guarantee.
There's no handbook really on if if I put my
(15:41):
kid in therapy, if I make sure my kid's working out.
If I make sure my kid's doing everything, I'm gonna
have the perfect citizen. It's like, I'm not saying that,
but I am saying it will help.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I would say a lot of people, you know, especially
said therapy. A lot of people now these days, a
lot of kids, a lot of doubts down the days,
are going to therapy, are getting help, are getting the tools,
proper tools, how to deal with the emotion, how to
deal with anxiety, because I know for me it took
a long time to go see your therapy.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Even I don't see a therapist now because I don't
need therapy right now.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
But the tools when whatever was in therapy, the tools
that we I had, it teach me how to navigate
like cause you know life, it's time life have the upsidowms.
You know, life will throw you something that you are
not even ready for. Oh yeah, it is not even
ready for it.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
And so go ahead.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
I was gonna say, even like that, when you get
thrown stuff that you're not ready for, everything has a proper,
a proper process that it has to go through. When
you lose somebody, you need to go through grieving therapy.
A lot of us don't and a lot of us
are one attitude away from snapping on somebody and losing
(16:57):
their freedom because now you just snap on some cause
you going through you know, you don't lost your mom.
For let's say you don't lost your mom, and now
you ain't did nothing to heal from that. You just
stuck in this mentality walking around all day think that
you're okay, and you're not. You haven't done any type
of healing. You haven't even started the grieving process. So
(17:19):
you know, those people in society, those people snap they
need like you know, you tell somebody have a good day,
and it's fucked your day, it's like dang, you know,
it's like dann, what happened was wrong? What you going through?
And a lot of the time just because we don't
even have compassion for people anymore too, Like if you
was to ask somebody what they going through when they
(17:41):
just snap at you, A lot of people don't do that.
We matching energies.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I'm a I'm a person like that. I think you can't.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
You gotta you gotta be the difference or make the difference.
You got to. You can't say like, oh, I I
don't like when people, you know, people just flip out
on somebody or whatever. That's why I'm in therapy. I
learn how to deal with my emotions. I learn how
to understand what I'm feeling and why I'm feeling it
(18:14):
that way, and how to continue forward and not necessarily
mess my day up, mess somebody else's day up. You know,
walk around mad because one thing may be mad. I
just talk through Okay, well why am I mad? Okay?
Or why do you feel that way? Okay? Well what
do you need to do to not feel this way again? Okay?
(18:35):
And then I'm done with it. I'm not basking in
it walking around mad. Now I'm mad all day every day.
It's like you gotta really heal, and it's all a process.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I think for that, I think a lot of people,
like somebody in the comments saying like okay, want to
ask to the way in facts, cause you never know
what a person is going through, and first of all,
you might go off on the wrong person, and then
that's the same energy and y'all y'all fighting.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Right exactly because you never know how far is somebody
willing to take it. Like you can look at me
and be like, dang, she's positive. She promote positivity. She did,
she dies, She don't ever judge. She always see the
good in people, which I do, I promise you I do,
but right positive, not plussy, don't disrespect me. We're gonna
(19:31):
have to take it there, you know, like we don't
really have to do it, and we ain't even got
to do that, you know, Like I want to help you, like,
let's help each other. Like I feel like one of
the biggest things in society is where we don't know
how to use other people. That's why I'm starting my
podcast because I feel like people really do need people.
You need to know that it's okay go through what
(19:53):
you're going through, like if somebody else has went through it,
that you're not the only one, you know. And I
feel like in societ we don't really give everybody that
grace anymore. We don't.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I think on top of that, I think it starts
with even when our friends, because our friends, you know,
we go with our friends go through a lot of things.
You know, we don't give our friends grace, even people
like you said grace and the fact that it's like
why she laugh or why she bring this attitude for
you never know what is going through you don't never
(20:26):
know like, and that's what saying.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I tell people who I work that, good morning, how
you doing?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Because for me at my job, I am I will laugh,
I will smile, like I'll bring them the good energy
when I come with not an attitude when I'm coming,
like if I don't see anything, like the whole room
will literally turn and be like, what is wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
And it'd be like, and I can't help people like nothing,
I'm doing fine. It'd be like you're lying.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah, and my energy feels and I hate that my
energy he feeds off other people energy.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Yeah, And I think.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
That's a bad thing for me because I don't like
I don't even though I feel a bad I don't
want you to feel bad. I don't want like the
whole like the whole room got turned down because I
have an attitude. Yeah, you you are definitely right on grace.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
So in your point of life, like what defines you,
like in point of your life defines you as the
person as today as you look back on your life
as a child, as a teenager, you know, as a
young adult, you know, as a mother, what defines you
(21:39):
as today?
Speaker 5 (21:42):
I would say so last July July twenty third, twenty four,
my grandmother passed away. And my grandmother was an amazing woman,
Like I did community work with her all my life.
We didn't mills on wheels where we were taking hot
(22:03):
meals to people who couldn't leave their home. We volunteered
at this place called Operation Hope. We volunteered at this
place called Hospice Born. We volunteered at hospice where we
would just take the patient stuff. And she was a
woman of God. She was very honest with everybody, and
she didn't have to cush you out to be honest
(22:23):
with you. She's like, this is her truth, and you
know if you don't agree with it, then you know
that's you going right. Like I unsaid what I had
to say, And when I was saying remarks at my
grandmother's funeral and I was explaining to everybody what type
of woman she was, that's when I realized, that's what
type of woman I want to be. And I have
(22:46):
since then. I started working for a nonprofit like I
was saying though, where we helped the community, and I
feel like numbers and helping I feel like those things
really define me, like who I am as a person.
And luckily, working at this nonprofit, I'm able to mix
them both together. But I would definitely say my grandmother
(23:12):
is like her. Her legacy is I guess what I
would say defines me right now because I want to
uphold her legacy. I want to be exact everything that
I explain to everybody else of what she was. I
want to be. I want somebody when I passed, I
want somebody to be saying the same exact stuff I
(23:33):
said about her about me.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
And I think some people like especially with me, I
say I'll get I think it takes a lot of
people who to find who I am as today, like
it took a whole village to raise me, not just
like one person. And the only thing I would say
for me personally that even though I'm a joking, even
(24:00):
though I laugh, even though I I do a lot
of things in life, nobody can never tell me that.
I never feel I never give up in life. Yeah,
and you know I always try to find ways to
make sure it is done into my way, not nobody
(24:22):
else's way, because you.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Can't tell me.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
You can tell me no, but eventually somebody's going to
tell me yes, right, or if nobody tell me.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yes, I'm gonna make my own way.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Right, I am just like that. We bet on ourselves.
We don't take no for an answer. We just adjust
so we can complete the mission because we know what
we're capable of. Whether other people know what we're capable
of or not, that's on them. We can show them.
But it's never we have to prove something. It's never that.
It never gives that, it gives. I'm doing what I
(24:57):
want to do. This is the path that I want
to go go down. This is the accomplishments that I
want to accomplish, and I'm getting. You know, we know
what timeline we want our lives on, and everybody else
around they watching it. They either with us or gainst
us on the way or on our team. You know
what I'm saying, Like, it's not I'm the same as
(25:19):
that way. I feel every single word you said I felt.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I think it's just the fact that a lot of
people try to down prayer us are kind of be
like why she doing this, or probably envious or jealous
or just I feel sorry for you.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
Like no, See, that's the other thing that I fit.
While I feel like people need people because I've never
been jealous of someone. I am always inspired. Everybody inspire me.
There is not one single person that I see that
I ever see something and be like, oh my god,
why does she have that? And I don't I be
like damn, what am I have to do to get at?
(25:57):
Like it ain't never, It's like I'm always I'm always
inspired and encouraged, like, Okay, she do it, I can
do it too, Like okay, Like well, me wanted to
go back to get my masters. I was like, okay,
there's no I can do it. I got two small kids,
I'm working myer in my career already for my bachelor's.
I can't go get my master's too. Then I met
(26:19):
my friend Shi kena shout out to her, and she
was like, girl, I took my final for my masters
the couple of hours before I gave birth to my youngest.
I was like, huh, I said what. She was like, yeah, girl,
I had she had two kids already and she was
having her third one and she still secured her masters.
(26:40):
I was like, I have no excuses. I was instantly
inspired and guess what I did well? Ill then signed
up for school. Guess what I'm in school? Dude? Like
you can't just see somebody and be like, oh I
can never get that, or oh I wish y'all had
that like make away. That's why I was just talking about,
(27:00):
like I don't like when people stay still like you can.
You can't stay in one spot. You can't be comfortable.
You have to you have to stretch, you have to
expand you have to do more always and I always advance.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Why we have to advance, and it's the fact that
stagnant And that's how we talked about stagnant being earlier.
You know, I feel like in my career I'm stagnant,
and I just I feel like I'm in this little
funk like it's about to shift, and I don't know
how it's gonna shift. It's gonna shift, and a lot
(27:38):
of people is not gonna like how it shifts.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
It's gonna depend on my like my friendship. I don't know,
it's gonna depend on my family.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
It's going to do a lot of things because a
lot of people don't know that when people started to shift,
things start moving right. People not expect us to move
a certain way. That's why I like having a conversation
with you. It's just like you know what you want,
(28:12):
you do know what you want.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
And honestly, I've always known, like I always knew I
wanted to be an accountant, you know, like how that's
like a great area for people when they go to college,
they'd be like, oh, and then they change majors, they changed.
I was like, I want to go to college to
be an accountant, Like I already knew that, and I
just didn't know where I was gonna go, but I
knew what I wanted to do. And then when I
(28:37):
was in college, I had a great time.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Oh girl, we had a great time.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
A lot of people, a lot.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Of people counting me out because we was having such
a great time. You know, it was like, you know,
she ain't gonna graduate, she ain't gonna make it. Then
she Then I graduated, I'm talking about she. Then I graduated.
Then they like, oh, well, she ain't gonna not with it.
Then I moved to Atlanta, and now, well, you know,
it's always.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
It's always something they want to find excuse for any thing.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
The fact that when we prove them wrong.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
It's not the fact that like we hit we always
take people talking and moving in the brushes and the rush.
But baby, we we lit's say we have something our heart.
Nobody will get in our pathway. We are going to
a conscious no matter why. And if I tell them
all my friends, like, yo, I'm here with you, I
(29:36):
ain't leaving with you now. If you're not gonna hop
on this trend with me and go do's ride with me?
Are you not gonna take advantage of what we are
doing here? But baby, we are in again. We are
in the wrong group.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Right, That's what That's what I had to realize. Like
before I started doing my TikTok, and once I realized,
like I have my voice, I need to use it.
I was in a lot of spaces where I wasn't
wanting it, I wasn't needed, I wasn't value, I wasn't appreciated.
So I didn't know, you know, I was just just
(30:18):
kind of stuck in a spot, like stuck in the
space where it's like, Okay, I'm not really around like
minded people. You know, life done changed. I got kids now,
like I want new different things. And then I had to,
you know, I had to change my space. I'm like,
(30:38):
I'm in the wrong space. And when I when I
got in the right space at Blossom, like I just
took over the room, like I'm like, this is a
space where I belong, this is where I'm appreciated, this
is where I'm wanted, this is where I'm needed, and
then that's where I'm thriving at. Like before, it's hard
if you when you change or when you know like Okay,
that's who I used to be, this who I am now,
(30:59):
or this is what direction I'm going. You you got
to say a lot of hard goodbyes to people like okay,
like we were best friends, but now you're okay with
saying in the same spot, or you want me to
do the You're holding me to the person I used
to be and you're not changing your reference point to now.
So it's like it's like sorry, my youngest was satifying,
(31:26):
but his uncle's here.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Going okay, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
But yeah, I got you, I got you.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Listen, it has been a great time. I'm telling you
when your friends and when your family don't understand what
you are about to do and did like I said
that jealousy, that envy are right, they can't be what you.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Want to do.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Baby, It's okay, I still love you, but baby, we
about to back off.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Our bags had on the trim.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
You gonna take a trip because if you're not gonna
join us, and you you want to be in this
little space that you're in, it is cool.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I'm not mad at that, right do you?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
But I'm not to take myself for me as you
blossom right now, I have to take myself and blossom
somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
It's not me that I'm into my friendship with you.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Sometimes it happens, but it's just the fact that I'm
ready to shift and you are at you are shifted.
I'm about to go to another level, but you're not
prepared to go at right.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
I was just I was I literally was just talking
about it because it's hard, like it's hard to want
more for somebody else, because that's ultimately what it is.
You're It's like, you're okay with being where you are,
and I want more for you. I want you to
be more because I'm going to be more. But if
you're okay right there, then that's fine. But I'm going
(32:58):
to be more. You know, I'm on the moor train,
You're on the stay where you are, And it's like,
like you said, It don't mean that you don't love
them anymore or anything. We just on two different paths,
paths on aligne. Like you know, we were we were
our past were work and now they're And it's.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Okay, right, And the fact that a lot of people
need to realize it's okay to be okay.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
And it's fine when people don't understand you. It's fine
when people start looking at you funny. It's fine when
people started to question you, why are you doing this?
It is fine because it's not meant for you. It's
not meant for everybody else around you. It's meant for
that person you and eventually me, myself and I. It
(33:51):
is meant for you. It's a gift for you. It's
something that you have to work with and it's something
that you it's dealt to you. Don't don't let don't
let that door close, right, And it's meant for you
because that might be the only door that's possible for
you to blossom, right.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
And see, And that's the thing too, It's just like
I said when I was in that box, you gotta
know what area where you're appreciated, where you're wanted, where
you're needed and then you start to become so confident
you can't you can't deny the progression that you've made.
Like you might have been one person or at one
(34:35):
spot in your life. Now you're at a different spot
in your life, and it's just like, okay, I'm not
you know, I'm not in the right spot. And then
you move to like, for instance, for me, for TikTok,
I've only been on TikTok since July thirteenth. But the
purpose of me going on TikTok was I wanted to
(34:57):
expand my vocabulary. You know, I'm from spot very South Carolina.
I sound country, I know I do. I try my
best not to. I try to pronounce all my words correctly.
I try to sound like water. I do not want
to have an accent. I don't want you to hear
where I'm I don't want you to hear my voice
and know where I'm from. I don't like that. I
don't want that. I don't want to sound like I'm
(35:18):
from the South. So I, you know, started posting a
vocabulary word today. And here we are at September fifteenth,
and I have expanded on there like I'm obviously I
have met my crowd like the people that they love
either they love my vibe. They follow me, they want
to just learn a word. They follow me, but they
(35:40):
let me know too, Like they message me and they
say like I love seeing, Like a lot of the
compliments that I get they say, I love seeing. You
put a different narrative on black women. A lot of people.
A lot of people see black women, they automatically think uneducated,
all this, all this, all this and that, but you
(36:02):
come to my page or shut shaking shaking ass is
what a lot of people say. Or provocative clothing. Just
want to be seen. And I do want to be seen,
but just not my body, Like I don't want to
be lusted over. I want to be seen from my mind.
I want to be seeing the difference that I make.
I don't want to be seen for oh look, you know,
(36:23):
she thicker than a snicker. I don't want that kind
of attention, you know, I want I want me, my
mental to make a difference in that to be seen.
And it has been being seen, and it's so nice.
It's so nice. It's just like, wow, thank you for
seeing me. I'll be saying that all the time, like
that's one of my safe responses because it's just like
(36:46):
I really feel seen, I feel valued, I feel cherished,
like thank you, And it's just from being on TikTok.
It's like I'm in the right room I'm supposed to
be in and my own page posting, and the people
come to me and they appreciate me, and it's nice.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
All rights, girl, and it's powered to people. Girl, it's
great to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
I'm telling you girls, y'all just got a little taste.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
I have a little taste girl.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Because when we come back on my other network, Black Canvas, Girl,
we are going to dive in deep for her and
I have another guess what her.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
We're gonna check that out September.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
And also girl, any advice anything you want to let
to know the people know who are listening now, Like
what you got coming out where you're doing, how big
a value?
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (37:40):
Yes, yes, okay. So I am on TikTok at Jenessa
dot Gil. I am on YouTube at JG with jg
I am on Instagram as jg W. But it's all
(38:00):
felled out a little complicated. It's j gee double like
two and then you like y owe you. So those
are my panhandles. I will be starting a podcast. It's
called Just Guidance with Jenessa Gale Me and that is
(38:22):
going to be on Halloween. I'm going to be premiering
it and I will be back with mister Zach on
the thirtieth.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Yes, sir, check it out, man listen. Thank you so much.
Thank you for my listeners who have been listening. I
have read the comments throughout all social media. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
If you are want more of her, check out Black
Canvas Septemy thirtieth on Belly Nation Online Radio, where I
will be.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
At at nine thirty. Thank you, and I love y'all.
Y'all have a great mind. And this astor royal mic, this.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
M H.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
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