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I just want to remind you,guys, this is just me and Mark
telling stories, and that nothing thatwe say here is intended to be medical
of basis is strictly from our pointof view as two dads telling the stories
of our T one d kiddos.We also want our listeners to know that
we try to maintain a perspective recognizingthem. Whatever Alan and I or our
families are dealing with, it doesn'tamount to a hill of beans compared to
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that which our daughters or anyone diagnosedwith type one diabetes has to contend with
on a day to day basis.Okay, all right, here we go,
so everybody hanging Hey, guys,thank you so much for jumping on.
This is so funny because we knowof each other, but not all
of us have met. And I'mso happy to see you all and hear
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you all, So thanks for jumpingon, Thanks for putting this together.
Every two I use zoom. Ifeel like the Brady Bunch. So let's
go around the squares and we canhello. We can maybe just introduce ourselves.
And since as I'm looking at itand you may be seeing it differently,
Emily is kind of first, wouldyou start and just say the name
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of your show, who you are, and where you where you living,
where you are very valid. SoHi, I'm Emily. This is my
voice half of Pancreas Pals podcast.I've been doing that fun little pod for
around three and a half years now. The other half is Miriam, who
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is not with us today because sheis busy therapizing people. And I am
originally from Jacksonville, Florida, butI've lived in New York City. I
have lived there for four years,but due to current events, I am
hiding in Rhode Island social distancing atmy boyfriend's parents house. Very grateful if
they end up listening to this,thank you for housing me. Wow,
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well, thank you for being here. Yes, so alward and I'm Stacy.
I'm the host of Diabetes Connections.I've been doing that for four and
a half years. And my sonis the one with type one and we
are all self quarantined altogether. Happytimes with the fam here in Charlotte,
North Carolina. My kids would killme for seeing Emily. Emily a U
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T one D I am okay cool? I didn't know. Oh sorry,
yes, unfortunately, yes, wehave together. We have three adults with
type I'm pointing like like people aregoing to see this, adults with type
one and two parents and Mark,oh, here comes all of you.
I didn't know it was perfect timing. Hey, I was gonna throw it
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over to Matt. You guys cancan introduce together, maybe sweet. So
my name is Matt van de Vechtand I am one a half of the
part of my pancreas podcast. Allthese next, I guess, so we
can just kind of smooth into that. But I started a company called FtF
Warrior, and then Ali actually cameto me. It was like, do
we just start a podcast? AndI was like, that's an awesome idea.
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So I'm going to kick it overto Ali. Now, what's up,
guys. My name is Ali Adu Karine and I have done a
Type one diabetic for about almost sixyears, and a while back I felt
like the diabetes community was pretty umempty in a sense of content wise,
like there wasn't enough stuff that Iwanted to see, like in terms of
exercise and mental health and YadA.Yeah that. So I started the Diabetes
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Daily Hustle blog and and the restof the history with at least with Matt,
you know, coming up then andget an idea for a podcast.
Very cool. Well, thanks,I know we were just doing some technical
stuff, so I'm glad you poppedin with you did, because we really
just started recording. We're still doingthe intros. I'm glad to see you.
Thank you. Ready, you gotit all right? Mark, You're
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up. Hi, I'm Marsha BradyBunch, there you go. I'm actually
realizing among the guys here that Iam really like I'm falling behind when it
comes to the facial hair. Somy dog here, my Bernie's mountain.
Oh my god, that's sitting rightthere this whole time. It's not gonna
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stay anyway. That's no good fora podcast. So um so I am
Mark. I am Mark Turner.I am obviously not from around these parts,
originally from Arkansas, um nodding fromthe UK originally, but I've been
in the States now for about twentyyears and one half of the Dads and
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Diabetes podcast. My better half,Alan, unfortunately can't join today. He
actually works in the financial mark kits, so his world is on fire right
now. Yeah, some of thetexts we've been trading. I feel I
feel for him and for his clients. Anyhow, I've been doing the Dads
and Diabetes podcasts for about a yearand a half. I think, yeah,
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about year and a half. Mydaughter Ella twelve years old T one
D and Alan has a daughter,Anna thirteen T one D as well.
So that's kind of what brought ustogether. And the reason we started the
podcast is we felt like the momswithin the T one D community, women
in general, were phenomenal. Imean they were incredible in terms of you
know, kind of just grabbing thenettle and taking the lead and yeah groups
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and you know, just advocating,and the men were kind of in the
slip stream, either by by designor just through circumstance. Either way,
we didn't think that maybe dads wasengaged in the conversations as they could be
or knee needed to be. Andso Iman and I were having a lot
of conversations offline about what's going onwith our kids and about the teat one
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D community more broadly, and duringone of our phone conversations, we said,
you know, we should make thisa podcast. He and I both
podcasted independently prior to this, andso we kind of came together to try
and create a place where dads couldbe heard and encourage other dads to speak.
So that's awesome, awesome, andRob my lower left. I'm in
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the lower left. What's up,guys? I know all of you except
Mark, but I'm excited to meetMark. Actually, I also identify as
a Marsha in terms of brine burns. And I'm also going to use Mark
as an inspiration every time I getinto a British character, Just say Mark
Turner my best British accident. Mycat is actually trying to get into this
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room. I think I'm in myhome office in Dallas, Texas. I've
been type one for fifteen years,and uh, you know, my claim
to fame before podcasting and Instagram wasI was a professional athlete who played most
famously for the Home I guess Ihome go t others as they've member in
Washington Generals. And then five yearsago about I came up with this idea
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in a hotel room in Columbia kindof on a similar like quarantine kind of
situation where I wasn't allowed to leavethe hotel room without my translator, and
because I stand out like a sorethumb and Columbia con dangerous and so I
came up with this idea to tryto tell my story and help tell other
people's stories through podcasting. So herewe are, all these years later.
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The cats definitely trying to get Yeahthere is Oh it's your cat's name.
My cast name is Michael J.Fox. He has a five of big
time fans on Instagram, so wheneverhe ends up in my content, it's
it's getting busters. They don't likeme as much as they like him.
I think that's the that's the truth. He should be in everybody should be
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michaelhich I feline. It could be. I wish I could take credit for
his name, but I adopted himfrom a friend and his name came as
advertised, and people like the formalityI think of Michael Michael J. Fox,
like, you know his name is. He does not answer to Mike.
He does not answer to anything elseexcept the full Michael. So you
kind of have to respect his resolvea little bit. So he actually answers
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to his name. Oh yeah,yeah, he comes what he's called.
Wow, he's a Harry is um. He's an interesting he's a good boy.
I'm allergic to cats, so that'syea. Let's get the dogs up
in here, right, are Enzoactually drank? I love? Eric and
I were reorganizing this room earlier todayand I left my coffee on the coffee
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table and Enzo drank a full cupof coffee, running around the apartment like
a wild media that he is.So yeah, is we have two sheban
news Rowan and Enzo and my fianceEric and I are living in a apartment
menagerie the last week. So it'sbeen a lot of fun. So before
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we change the subject, Emily,I don't know that you talked too much
about pancreas pals. I would justlike to know a little bit more about
how you guys, like why youstarted, you know, how you found
each other. Yeah, so Ioriginally started the podcast. All right,
let me try and get my thoughtstogether here. Okay, So basically I
was a senior in college and Ihad just been diagnosed. I was diagnosed
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when I was twenty years old withtype one, and I had known no
one with type one. The onlyperson I'd known was my next door neighbor
who had actually unfortunately passed away fromcomplications of type one. So I was
just followed anxiety and really just Ifeel like, you know, that scene
from Kerry where she's running around withblood all over her hands, like what's
going on? That was like diabetes, And I remember vividly. I was
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in my senior multimedia journalism class atBoston University, just had diabetes just about
a year at that point, yearand a half, and I was doing
my final video project on the researchthat was being done with doctor Donmiano at
the Boss University. And I wastalking about my project and this girl all
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of a sudden like raised her hand. Who's a peer now that I'm looking
back at it, like I wasjust a year older than her, Like
she didn't need to raise her hand. It was Christie and she was like,
oh my god, I'm Type one. And we became very fast friends.
We didn't know anyone else would typeone, and fast forward we would,
you know, text each other aboutcar accounts or going on dates and
struggling to have a nice guy whounderstood that I just wanted to prick my
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finger in peace, and didn't Ijust tell me that that's really unhygienic to
do in public, like just wildtimes. And we just really bonded over
that excuse me, and then weI graduated college and Christie was a year
behind, so she a year younger. So we would just call each other
once a week and to catch upbecause I moved to New York and she
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was still in Boston. And oneday I was like, we have got
to start recording these because there arepeople that are like in Nebraska, that
do not have anyone who's Type one, who's a female and can really discuss
the highs and lows, like sorry, sorry, dudes, It's not to
be a man hater. I lovemy boyfriend, love dude, but being
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a female Type one and the hormonalchallenges that we go through is so much
of a struggle. And I hadno doctor be like all my male doctors
just felt like I don't know ifthey felt like they couldn't speak to it
or they like didn't know of anypatterns, but I just felt like it
was such a gap that I thatshe and I we had no idea that
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it was normal to suffer from highblood sugars during our cycle or low blood
sugars leading up, Like no onetalked to us about that. And obviously
our podcast is not about the menistruationcycle, but yeah, that should be
our tashed I on is like,it's disgusting, it's natural, it happened.
Um sorry, yeah, I wouldn'tlisten, but I have my daughter
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listen. Yeah, thanks question Markfor your daughter. Anyways, everything's fine.
So we started recording and it reallytook off, and ironically really took
off in Australia, Like we havea big following in Australia and it brings
so much like warmth to my heart, like all these sixteen year old girls
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are writing to us from all overthe world. And I mean our age
range of listeners really is eighty fiveWell it's eighteen to like sixty two or
something like that, so it's abig age range, but it's like eighty
five percent women. Like I'm notfooling myself. I don't think that a
whole bunch of you know, twentyfive year old dudes really want to listen
to Miriam and I talk breakdown littlethings that happened in our lives and talk
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about the mental health aspect. Soeventually Christie, my original co host,
went back to school and got hergraduates, her graduate degree, and so
Miriam, who was constantly on theshow because she is a license meal health
counselor, talking about who has shehas Type one as well. She's had
it for twenty six years. Ibelieve she might kill me for saying that,
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but whatever. And so she's reallygone through gone through it, and
she went through puberty with it,and she's just able to have this perspective
of living a happy life with thechallenges that face Type one as a woman
in the workforce in and out,and so have I. So we really
focus on, you know, allthe mental health aspects of type one with
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her kind of spearheading that. Andthen also I've just always been such an
open book. I could talk toa wall. It's probably I think you're
in good company. I have afeeling that everybody right. So I'm actually
I'm actually a fraternal twin. Soshe does not have Type one, but
she's been like, it's it's greatbecause a big chunk of our listeners are
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all still caretakers or loved one subtype ones. So she's she's been such
a oh my god, is thatyour daughter? What was so nice that
she came in? She brought mea water? So well, tell her,
we said, hi, Hi,I think it's okay when she gets
her period with Type one, andtell her it's gonna be okay, because
it's gonna be any day now.I'm gonna tell him it's gonna be okay.
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I'm sure she's not gonna be okayfor Mark. It's gonna be awful
for him. It's gonna be worsefor her, but no doubt. I
can't imagine being a dad and doingthat. But moral u is. It's
it's been such a wild time.We were just featured in Women's Health for
their marketing. Thank you so much. It's really exciting a lot of exciting
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things coming up for season seven,which drops in a few months. So
we're we're excited about all the allthe kiddos and adults alike who we're listening
and caretakers. We get so manyquestions from people being like, my boyfriend
has type one and he doesn't wantto bring it up, but I see
him giving himself shots and he neverwants to about it, like things like
that, And I'm like, well, I can't tell you what to do,
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but here's what I would do.And then Miriam's like, well,
let's talk about why. Okay youcan do that, Miriam. One thing
I think is really interesting and Iwant to ask you all about is It's
funny how when we enter the communityright either were people are diagnosed like our
kids are diagnosed, or you're diagnosedand you you kind of putter around by
yourself for a little while, oryou jump right in. But whenever you
find the diabetes community, it's ata different spot and you figure out what
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you want that isn't there. Solet me go back to you and Matt
if I could, because you knowyou mentioned a couple of years ago you
didn't see what you wanted. BecauseI've been in the Diabetes Community group since
two thousand and seven when people wereblogging and it was all about blogging and
a couple of in person events,but there was nothing. I mean,
Facebook wasn't really a thing. Instagramcertainly wasn't around. So give us the
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skinny on like when you jumped in, and I don't want to put you
in Matt in the same category,but feel free to anybody can chime in.
I mean, I'm just I'm justhere to keeps up the flow going.
But you know, I'm curious,what did it look like when you
jumped in? Are you talking mostlyon Instagram? There wasn't a lot of
stuff I think what I think aboutwas YouTube. At the time, YouTube
was very empty. I was heavyon YouTube before diagnosis, and then when
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I got diagnosed, I was like, how's weight training and work? How's
basketball going to work? Work?Stuff with inspirations from the culture of hip
hop, and like, are therepeople I look up to that diabetes?
And all I found was like typetwo commercials on medications or just like random
videos of how do you carry yourdiabetes? You know, And I was
like, it's so empty, Andthen we're talking about in today's world,
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it's at a whole other level.You know, We're seeing all these amazing
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you had. You know, I'vejoked about about this with him that when
I'm like Nature how to use Instagram, I'm like, Rob, what do
I do? You seem like youhave that. I don't want to I
don't want to sound weird, butlike you know, you guys have a
master of different social media aspects.So I'm curious, Rob, when you
decided to get involved, you areall ready I mean with advertising and with
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the stuff you've already done, youcan pretty heavily involved. What did it
look like to you? What didyou want to add? Yeah? So
great question, and I will sayto the listeners like I Stacy asked great
questions. But you guys know ifhe was at her podcast, but I'm
totally here as her official Instagram liaison, So whatever whatever her questions are,
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I'm here. I'm gonna be herresource. So I think was a little
bit different. I was in aposition where I was last Stacy missioned.
I work in advertising. I ownmy own agency now, but back then
I worked for an agency. Iwas a director of strategy, and I
don't know I was. I wasreally interested in a lot of platforms,
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but Instagram is the one I thinkthat resonated most with me. I think
it's just really cool. I lovephotography, videography, and I'm just really
inspired by the variety of creativity thatI see on there, in and out
of bibes. I think specifically thisgroup is one Instagram kids as we would
be. I guess in this categoryare all people that I follow and interact
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with on a regular basis because ofwhat they do. And I think a
little bit similar to Ali, Iwas like, there is a gap in
Instagram, and also similar to youknow what everybody's really said. Mark earlier
specifically was talking about how inspiring allthe women are in the diabetes space at
the time. Certainly there are muchmore involved dudes these days, but I
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was like, Wow, this isa serious need for a male diabetes influencer
or diabetes personality or you know,fitting just general lifestyle type person. So
a lot of those gaps that Aliwas describing were the ones that I checked
the box on. I was like, maybe my story in my life in
general could just be inspiration or Icould you know, opt into a community.
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So I decided early on that Iwas going to use Instagram as my
primary promotional platfor form for the podcast. It has a Facebook and it had
but you know, organic reach beingwhat it was, and I wasn't really
interested in doing like a Facebook groupbecause I didn't think I had the time
to really spend to make it great. So I was like, Okay,
well Instagram could be a great platformfor this. And they added direct messaging
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along along that timeline as well,and so it's like became a more much
more communal story kind of platform.So, uh, yeah, those are
my Instagram is my primary platform thatI spend most of my life on,
which I have like the alerts thattell me like when I spend an hour
on later every day and I tryto like like lately social distancing. I've
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been getting that like in the morninga lot of time span right now.
So yeah, I think that wasmy Instagram as a place where I found
community, and I found a lotof people like me, and I didn't
know what it was like for thefirst ten years I had diabetes, what
it was like to have friends withdiabetes. It was not something that I
thought I needed. And something thatI learned and that I say pretty regularly
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now is that people are diagnosed.I believe people are diagnosed twice, once
when the doctor tells them, andonce when they take ownership of that and
opt into that and say, hey, yeah, I do have diabetes.
What else is out there for me? And I for certainly have seen that
in my own life, and Isee that a lot with people these days,
like I'm sure you guys as well. A new diabetes account follows me
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every day, and it's like Isee somebody else who is sort of reconciling
and opting into their own journey withdiabetes. So it's very cool to see
and I love meeting people along thatjourney. That's cool. All right,
I'm going to change even though Markand Matt, I know you're probably planning
your answer to that question, sosorry, I'm gonna move on to something
else. I'm curious, Okay,So I'll set this one up and give
you a second to think about it, but I want to do it all,
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ping pong around everybody a quick roundrobin, as we call it the
news business. But let's do aquick question on what is what do people
find surprising about podcasting? Because Iknow we've all had I mean dot diabetes
wise, but just for fun,I know we have people in our lives
that were like, we're podcasters orthey day, what are you doing?
Or how's your little podcast going?So you know, if you have anything
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surprising or to share about your experiencewith podcasting or something that you tell people,
I will share. I did newstalk radio for a very long time,
and none of my friends ever understoodwhat that was. They would introduce
me as the DJ or you know, it was really right, did you
guys know me? Why didn't theylisten to you? You just listen then
you figure it out. Well,Emily is tune time. Here's why they
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didn't listen, Emily, because Iworked at News Talk eleven ten WBT,
which is the right leaning political talkstation of Charlotte. So I did more
than news for ten years, whichwas not political at all. I mean
we interviewed politicians, but my friendswere mostly listening to you know, the
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hot AC Adult Contemporary, the hotAC station, you know, the Crazy
Morning Zoo or whatever. And Iknew growing up that I didn't want to
be the giggle girl. I mean, I'm old enough, that's all the
job there was that. You know, you could be Robin Quiver's maybe right,
but you couldn't be the main guy. So that's not what I wanted
to do. So I grew upand be I became a newsperson. But
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when I started podcasting, people werelike, how's your podblog thing, how's
your what's your Can I hear iton my phone or a lot of people
look up to me now at diabetesconferences and say, I would love to
listen to your podcasts, but Ican never find time to watch it,
And then you have to explain still, So Mark, I'm going to go
to you because we're of similar ages, and I would imagine that you've heard
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that as well. What's what's somethingabout podcasts that you can share? I
think the thing that surprises people mostwhen I tell them so, this is
my fourth podcast I've been involved in, and I think that inherently surprises people.
But I think what really shocks themis just how easy it is to
podcast. I think that completely blindscience. When they when you tell someone
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your a podcast, you can almostthey get stars in their eyes, like,
oh my good you podcast. Wow. This is not alchemy. This
is literally, if you want,it's an iPhone and a rudimentary recording app.
I mean, obviously we all doa little more from that, but
it's pretty straightforward. So I thinkthat's certainly something that surprises people, and
it's something that I make a pointto jump on because I want to encourage
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others, you know, if theyhave content that they want to capture,
if they have something that they're passionateabout, that's the key. I mean,
the key is be passionate, geton Mike, and fulfill your commitments
to your audience. If you sayyou're going to do it once a month,
you say you're gonna do it twicea month, every week, whatever.
It might be a deer to that, and if you do, you'll
probably you probably generate some kind ofan audience. So whenever people, you
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know, I see that kind oflike far away look in their eyes,
like my gosh, podcasting, that'sjust I don't know. No, seriously,
embracest you can do this, it'seasy. I don't think he's too
Anybody else says you do a podcastnot about diabetests, crowd podcasts. Now
my men started. I feel likeit was like you, me and Rob
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and now it's like I get podcastsfollowing me every day that our type one
diabetes podcasts, and I think Ido think it's great. I'm really kidding,
No, it's great. There's somany that we all have a voice,
we all have a perspective. It'sjust a story. Yeah though,
Stacy, Yeah we don't. Notall of us hit you know, did
the news every morning and have avoice, Like I feel like I could
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listen to you like all the time. Your voice is very Calmone is like
the most professional podcaster that I knowI've actually was. I'm so thankful because
a minute ago, when Marcus talking, I was thinking I have messed up
this group meeting so much by tryingto make it more formal. But I
cannot help myself. It's how Iam. I'm like, I'm listen anything
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up and for math negativity, wehave to get to mad Matt, you
just enjoying well, thank you forthe kind words, But Matt, can
you talk about podcasting yeah, forsure. I think Mark touched on a
great point, which was it's soeasy to get started, like, way
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easier than I thought it would be. You know, I thought I had
to get when I first was shoppingfor podcasts here, I was looking at
mixers and different editing softwares, andyeah, you literally need a phone and
recording to buy some some sorts prettymuch it. But it gets difficult being
consistent. That's where a lot ofpeople fall off. So starting up super
easy. You know, you canbuy some cheap equipment and it totally sounds
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fine. But consistency, you know, like you said, you're promising a
month, once a month, oncea week, that's where it gets tough.
If you're not consistent, it's goingto fall apart and you're not gonna
be able to keep it going.And I think that's my biggest contribution.
I'm the insight guy. I lovedeveloping, diving into data and insights and
blah blah blah. Consimilar behavior boring. But I think that an insight that
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I had going into the podcast.And this is back in twenty fifteen.
At the time, ninety percent ofall podcasts on iTunes had three episodes of
fewer, so super gung ho,like Matt's talking about. They get their
setup going, they get their concept, and then they stop because like it's
busy and it's just like a sideproject. UM. And I think too,
like they come in with this expectationthat a lot of people are going
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to download it, and as youguys know, like your first tele episodes,
like you know, you have goodfriends or whatever, and they support
you. But for the most partat the beginning, not very many people
download it. Um. And sothere is a like an effort of consistency.
There's something sheiba nightmare knowing um,but apocalypse they know something where you
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don't. UM. But then theother thing is I read this inside from
Spotify at the end of the yearthat number of podcasts on Spotify increase one
thousand percent from twenty eighteen to twentynineteen. So what you're talking about is
the barriers to entry for podcasts aremuch fewer than they were even a few
years ago. I remember my likeworkflow that I built so that I could,
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you know, call people on Skypeand record in the garage band or
whatever. It's pretty much not necessaryanymore. Like even the part of my
pancreas guys Zencaster, which is supereasy to use and any any idiot with
an Internet connection could use. AndI am just like, Wow, I
wish this was around five years agoso I could build my workflow or rather
so, I think it's an awesometime if you have a if you have
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an idea or even just like aserial idea or just like a project or
a friend that you want to collaboratewith, that is available to you.
And I love seeing you diabetes podcasts. I think my idea on competition in
the diabetes space is very different andpeople are like Rob, no, dude,
it's a dog eat dog world,and I agree with that, except
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that dogs don't eat other dogs.Doesn't make sense. So I think,
you know, this is like everybodyhas a voice. If you have an
idea or a creative you know,opportunity, or just something burning inside you,
I think you should get it outthere. And I'm here to support
that. I could ask a questionseriously with it, this whole coronavirus thing.
Are you expecting an exponential growth himpodcasts over the next couple of months
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because people are gonna be sat inguest rooms as we are, Ye I've
already seen it. I've already Ican increase just in the followers in terms
of like new create, new accountscreated. But you know what's funny,
I would think more people are goingto be creating podcasts. And I actually
do a presentation I did it forcollege students a couple of years back,
called can I Podcast from my DormRoom? And I've been asked to expand
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that into the presentation more, whichI will do. And I think we're
gonna see lots of podcasts. Ithink we're actually going to see fewer listeners
because as we all are now isolatedwith our families. UM, I don't
know. I know some of youare single something. I don't know.
I don't know anybody status. ButI'm at home with now my son,
my daughter, and my husband.I do not listen to podcasts with them.
It's not really it's not really acommunal listening in you know, a
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medium. Some shows are, butlike my son is fifteen and has Type
one, I don't think he wouldever listen to a diabetes podcast that I
would listen to. Right, hemight listen to his own, but it's
not like, let's sit down andgather around the fire and listen to you
know, even you know, let'slisten to any kind of podcast. So
I'm really interested to see what happens. I think there's gonna be a lot
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of people creating them. But Idon't know about communal listening with podcasting because
I don't know about you guys.I you know, I'm on Alexa or
on I don't want to make anybody'sdevices up, but you know, we're
all on those devices now, andI have like three people who listen that
way. It's very interesting because Ijust don't think it's a communal medium.
But maybe that's just my show.That's very true. Now. I listen
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to podcasts when I'm alone, ifI'm in the car, if I'm at
the gym, if you're with people. It's just weird, you know,
most people don't have the same tastein podcasts anyways. It also feels more
intimate like the podcast. It's likeit's not like a YouTube video where everyone's
gathering around and usually there's a wholebunch of people coming in and out.
This is the biggest podcast I've everrecorded. With this many people on it
once, it's hard to discern differentvoices for me at least. I mean,
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the most I've done I think islike four or five. I'm not
going to counting, but I thinkthere's more of us than that. Yeah,
yeah, so I think that's alsoa part of it. A good
chunk of it is it's kind ofan intimate experience and no matter what you're
discussing, it feels very one onone. Yeah. Audio is the most
intimate medium for sure, because you'vegot somebody's voice writing in your head.
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You know, that's my great good. Also, I think about it in
a sense, it's also time buying. You know, you do podcasts while
you're working out or driving or cleaning. You're not doing podcasts sitting there,
and you have to take up anhour and block it out your schedule.
And also the beauty of it aswell. Yeah, I agree with Ali
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like completely. I think when Istarted my own business, I our offices
are much closer to where I livethan when I worked for somebody else because
I chose it that way. Spoileralert. So my commute and my time.
I used to crush audio books becausemy commute was like thirty five minutes
each way, so I could readlike one hundred books a year easily just
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on my commute. And you knowso now that was also a time when
I would listen to podcast So myquestion for the group is, outside of
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Yeah, I've been listening to podcastssince you had to put them on your
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iPod, like plug it into thecomputer. And you know, I had
like the iPod nano or whatever,or I would steal it from my kids
and I would download it. SoI started listening to m Piers Fresh Air,
which is actually what my show isbased on Mine is more of a
news news diabetes podcast. But Ilove I'm. My favorite show right now
is You're wrong about? Um You'rewrong about? Is where they revisit news
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stories from you know, like theeighties and nineties and tell you what you
missed about them. I love anyThere's a bunch of Game of Thrones podcasts.
I'm a huge a Song of Iceand Fire fan. Read the books.
If you're stuck at home, books, Yeah, you know what's the
show? The show's fine, Readthe books. So I like History Westeros
Radio Westeros. You will never feellike more of a nerd than when you
listen to these shows. They dodramatic readings and all that stuff that's really
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fun. Um Colon O'Brien needs aFriend always makes me laugh and um,
how did this get made? Willalways laugh. So those are just a
few that I like. I couldgo on and on. I have way
too many. Um let me setup Matt when I'll kick it over to
you, Matt awesome. I've gota shortlist. So this one take.
I would say that everything that Iconsume is bacially through podcasts, is educational
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for my own growth as a personas a business. But like I said
when we were chatting earlier, Ispent I spent hours on TikTok. So
I'm not just educational. Okay,I put down a black hole of entertainment
there. But with podcasts, it'smarketing. It's how to help people with
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your value. So I didn't getFred to share my story in the beginning.
I guess I'll share part of thatnow. I've had diabetes for ten
years and along that path, Ibecame a certified personal trainer and nutritionist,
and so my goal is to usethat to help people. So I use
podcasts to teach me how to relaythat information to others. And so it's
kind of that's why I use itas like a self growth at the gym
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or i'm driving. It's great forthat. You know, you can't do
that in a group because no onescares. This is pretty much for listening
to. What's that? Do youhave a couple shows you can share?
Oh? Man, let's see,there's this guy named Russell Brunson. He's
got a great one. It's calledMarketing Secrets from your Car, I think
it is, and he just podcastswhile he's driving. You talk about easer
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entrance. He gets his cell phoneand records himself while he's driving to work
every day. No, that's dangerous, mom, does not you know many
people? Oh? Yeah about you? Um, I would say my favorite
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are. My favorites are build Schoolof Greatness. I love his intimate interviews
where it's like, you know,what's ex fact, like who are you?
What's your story? And here's themet and potatoes and then what's your
muscles? To everyone? That's oneof my favorite podcasts, and then also
Gary's Audio experience. I love GaryV and Mark About You. I'll go
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a little different here because I thinkall of these are going to be US
centrics. So instead I'm going tofootball. A half of minor soccer goes
without saying, but I'm scrolling throughmy list here and I'm going to exclusively
gravitate to those that are from theUK. In that way, maybe you
guys would have heard of them.So probably one of my most favoriteist is
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a show called Desert Island Discs.It's actually the longest running radio show in
the world. I think it's seventyfive years old at this point. Really
super simple format. They have acelebrity on or somebody who's just significant in
their particular field, history, science, whatever it may be. And it's
forty five minute long show and theyasked that individual, Okay, you're gonna
be straggled on a desert desert island, so what are the eight disks that
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you would take with you? Theywere discs back in the day it was
gramophone records, and you have topick out eight pieces of music that you
would take with you, and youtalk, you know, you talk about
why that's important to you, andit relates to a particular person and you
kind of learn about that individual.And I just got done listening to Daniel
Radcliffe and prior to that, RickyGervais really really interesting and some of them
are super emotional. So Desert IslandDiscs one definitely worth checker. What's this
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one here? Diabetes Connections with No, I don't know. This one called
The Infinite Monkey Cage. For anyof you who are kind of science nerds.
This is a show that's hosted bya comedian and Brian Cox. No,
not that Brian Cox, the scientist, Brian Cox, who's very well
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known in the UK, super superbrilliant, smart guy. The two and
they're coming together. They gather togethera panel and they discuss a scientific topic,
but it's kind of done very lightheartedly, and it's just really interesting.
The stuff you learn kind of byosmosis, like I don't want to learn
about science that it's pretty interesting thingsbecause of how they format the show.
And then we give you one more. This is an amazing TV show in
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England called qi which for quite interestingand it was until recently hosted by my
favorite person on the planet, StephenFry, who's just freaking amazing at everything
he does. Anyhow, the peoplewho produce the questions for that show,
they're called the qi Owves. Theyproduce their own podcast which has a weird
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title. It's called No Such Thingas a Fish. Basically, each of
the Owlves, there are three ofthem, they take a come out you're
saying, Stace. They take somethingthat we misunderstand, something that over time
we've come to believe and it isn'tactually what it seems, and they delve
into it and they kind of giveyou the history behind it and they kind
of correct the myth if you like, and it's just really interesting. Again,
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the stuff you can learn from itsfascinating. So they're all from the
UK. There you go, excellent, all right, Rob, your next
great. So I think my favoritepodcast and one that I think I modeled
my show after a lot, isTim Ferris Show. The Tim Ferris Show
just really in depth, long form, kind of structured interviews with high performers
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and really cool, interesting people.His episodes are super long too, so
I find that like the first hourgenerally is generally the same and kind of
they kind of get into it,and then as people get more comfortable and
kind of he breaks them down alittle bit. Maybe they the last hour
or two hours or generally really interestingand kind of vary in their content,
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which is really go. I occasionallyI will listen to a Ji Rogan episode.
I think, like I admire hispodcast Enthusiasm and Hustle. He can
get anybody on that show and putsout a ton ton of a ton of
content which is really good. Andthen I also have on the movie side,
I love movies, so I lovethe Rewatchables podcast from The Ringer.
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I also like Binge Mode, whichcovers like a variety of topics from Harry
Potter to Game of Thrones to StarWars, which is really good as well.
From the Ringer. The Ringer doesa really awesome job, has a
lot of really cool pods. ThenI'm trying to think of some other kind
of one offs that I listened toon a regular ba as I gotta had
these, uh like on my phoneready to go, and now they're they're
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slipping my mind. Um, Ilike the after Hours Harvard Business Review pod,
which is pretty cool. Sure youdo, come on you and I'm
just kidding, yeah yeah, andthey and then I also um listened to
by proxy of my fiance who likesto listen to true crime pods in the
house even so, like I canactually hear them in the hallway before she
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usually gets home before I do,so I can hear them in the hallway.
And they are Sinisterhood, which isa local podcast which has actually gone
pretty big recently from a couple offriends of mine here. It's true crime
and comedy, as well as MyFavorite Murder, which is just a hilarious
podcast from two ultra powerful pagents.So, um, yeah, I think
that's kind of the those are That'sthe scope of my podcasts that I'm listening
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to, at least right now,Emily, were you going to say my
favorite murderation My favorite murder is alsoone of my top but late and into
anything true crime, whether that's onNetflix or a podcast. Obviously, Cereal
and pr was kind of like myfirst foray into listening to through crime podcasts.
It was so it's so good.I mean, like I hate saying
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that because it's like true crime,so like not that good on like an
ethical and human level, but it'sso good too to take in content wise.
Um. And then my other favoriteis called Mortified. I don't know
if any of all have heard ofit, but it's hilarious. It's people
reading their diary entries like as adultsfrom when they were kids, from when
they were kids, And I've neverlaughed out loud harder, Like I had
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to stop listening to it at workbecause people were like, yeah, good,
like in fact, it's so funnyand they're just the most mortifying,
like like the time of stories,like you would recommend it's there's it's pretty
pretty short format and there's usually twodiary entries per episodes. It's two different
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stories. Some of them are sadand cringey, but most of the well
all of them are cringy, butmost of them that's awesome. Are you
guys familiar with Adrian Mole. Idon't think anyone have a Adrian Mole.
Okay, when you said about Mortified, it remind me of it. It's
a series of books I wrope whenI was a kid, and they became
a TV show in the UK.You guys need to check them out,
you in particular Emily. It's fantastic. It's actually your woman, Sue Townsend,
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who writes from the perspective of athirteen year old boy. Yeah,
she died recently unfortunately cancer. Butand she just captures the mind of a
thirteen year old boy so perfectly,and it's hilarious. It's it's done in
the form of diaries, so it'shis diaries, is a thirteen year old
boy, and it's just fantastic.Adrian Mole. Check it out. Cool?
All right, Well, listen,I think it's time to kind of
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wrap it up here. It's beenan awesome chat, and I know we
could keep going and hopefully we'll jumpback on and do this again really soon.
Anybody have anything I missed? Iknow we could talk for a long
time here. I think next peopledo around Robin on what make everyone's using
I'm very curious. Sorry, Rob, Yeah, I think something I get
if you're if you've stuck with thisepisode to this to this point. But
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you know, if you have anidea for a podcast, or you feel
compelled to give back to the communityin some way or express yourself creatively,
I think we all could probably doan hour long episode solo on why someone
should do that and why your projectsmatter. H. It doesn't matter.
Don't compare your day one to dosomebody else's day one thousand, day a
hundred. I think a comparison canreally rob you of your creativity and your
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joy. So you know each ofthese people, uh and Mark, I'm
looking forward to learning more about you, h and getting to know you a
little bit better. But each ofthese people have had an impact on my
life in one way or another,and I'm very fortunate to admit every one
of you except Mark, in person. So you never know where your creative
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project, or your hair brained schemeor idea will take you, and I
would encourage you guys to if youhave one of those, to chase it.
It may not work, doesn't matter, but you pouring yourself into that
will make a difference to someone somewhereand I am looking proof of that.
So I just wanted to thank eachone of you for giving that to me.
I also want to jump in andsay this happened not because of you
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know, like leadership and I calledpeople. It happened because I felt like
reaching out and just talking to peoplewith similar circumstances. And if you're listening,
and God bless you you're listening thisfar. If you are still listening
though, and you're interested, youcan do this just instant message or reach
out or however. It really doesnot take being a radio professional. And
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I mean, you know, Ithink I'm the only one right. It
doesn't matter. You don't have todo any of that. If you have
an idea, if you have asuggestion, I think any of us would
help with that. And I hopethat anybody here on this path of this
panel. I'm calling it very loosely, but if you guys want to do
this with other podcasters that you know, this isn't We just kind of went
randomly and said, who's around,So if you please, let's keep talking,
let's keep meeting each other. Wegot to do something Over the next
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couple of weeks. I mean,we really need to stay connected. Emily,
you look so haloish and beautiful,are you? Thank you? It's
the right island air and literally there'swindows all around, guys, like,
look at the ocean back there.It's just beautiful. It's really good.
Stay that he wasn't an accurate description. Stacy's Captain America and basically Stacy's avengers
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assembled that he's a marvel nerd aswell. So right next, before we
meet next, we need to determinewhich avenger would we all be Okay,
So I'm gonna give Stacy Captain Americabecause she's for the rest of us need
to come up with our own designations. All right, Well, we'll report
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back on that at next and ifyou want to go DC, we might
let you back in the club.We might well say over batman. You
guys, thank you all so much. Um, well, we'll figure out
off the air how we're gonna getthis to anybody or how people are gonna
hear it. But this was ablast. Thank you so much for picking
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up the phone and opening the don'torder we even say, opening the computer,
jumping in on zoom, great newworld. Thanks guys, Thank you,
thank you, thanks guys for me. Thank night,