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May 3, 2020 • 50 mins
Two dads of T1D daughters, on a podcast, trying to figure it all out. With a twist!

The second of our out-of-the-norm eps, with Alan up to bat this time! #TeamAlan

Our good friend Stacey Simms (of the 'Diabetes Connections' podcast), once again gathered together some fellow T1D podcasters for a chat. Alan jumped in to represent our lil' ole show (#TeamAlan), along with Amber of 'Diabetes Daily Grind', and Matt of 'Pardon My Pancreas'. The group cover Governors orders (or lack thereof), what we learned from the Spanish Flu, and much more besides!

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(00:21):
I just want to remind you,guys, this is just me and Mark
telling stories, and that nothing thatwe say here is intended to be medical
of basis is strictly from our pointof view as two dads telling the stories
of our T one d kiddos.We also want our listeners to know that
we try to maintain a perspective recognizingthem. Whatever Alan and I or our
families are dealing with, it doesn'tamount to a hill of beans compared to

(00:42):
that which our daughters or anyone diagnosedwith type one diabetes has to contend with
on a day to day basis.Well, thank you all for jumping in.
I'm assuming we're going to be joinedby at least one more person,
but if not, this is sucha great group. Hey guys, how's
everybody doing? Doing fantastic? Doinggreat? All right? Yay? Um.

(01:07):
So we have Alan Doulton, MattVanderbeckt, and Amber Clower joining us
today and I'm Stacy Simms. SoAlan, let's start with you. I'm
Alan Nolty from Southwest Arkansas and mypodcast is with my fellow cohort, Mark
Turner. I think is trying tolog in. Um, we run dazz

(01:29):
and diabetes. Um was it bymonthly podcast? I'm sorry, a sim
a monthly podcast which we had tojust recently changed to a monthly just due
to my work. And uh sowe're my daughter, Anniston is my little
two one day daughter, and we'rejust here sheltering in place by no mandate

(01:51):
from the state governor as we can. Yeah, we'll talk about the national
Arkansas. Matt, how about you? As My name is Matt Dandevic along
with my co host Ali, wewere on the part of my Pancreas podcast
and that is linked to my companywhere I do fitness and health coaching,
which is FtF Warrior, and thathas brought me probably like top three joys

(02:15):
of my life. You know,it's just absolutely incredible seeing people change for
the better. That's very cool.All right, Amber, I'm so glad
you could join us today. Tellus about you. So, my name
is Amber Clure and I'm here inOklahoma City, Oklahoma, obviously, and
I have the Real Life Diabetes podcastwhich is a part of the Diabetes Daily
Grind, and I've had diabetes forthirty seven years. You know, it's

(02:39):
funny, Matt when you said that, because when I started Diabetes Connections in
twenty fifteen. You know, I'vebeen in radio and television a long time
and I thought, all this wouldbe fun, but it never occurred to
me how rewarding and fulfilling it wouldbe. I thought, oh, I'll
help other people by getting them newsand information. But selfishly, it's been
amazing And that's been your experiences.Yeah, it's it's absolutely life changing where

(03:01):
it's like, Okay, yeah,I'll just share some knowledge that I've learned
through being helping a virtual trainer.Yeah, maybe they'll find some use out
of it. And they come backand you're like, you changed my life.
You're like, oh my gosh,I'm melting on the inside. This
is just the best feeling ever.Yeah. Yeah, I totally get it.
And Emperor, if I'm not wrong, you work not only with people

(03:22):
with type one? Do you stillwork with people with type two diabetes?
Are you in the diabetes community outsidethe podcast? Yeah? I My mission
is to help all people living withdiabetes because we all struggle with it at
times, and yeah, i'd liketo feature I'm going to be featuring on
Monday Tracy Brown from the American DiabetesAssociation because people with type two just need

(03:42):
as much knowledge as people with typeone. And when I host happy hours
and things like that, yeah,I invite all people with diabetes. There's
Yeah. For some reason, Iwas thinking, I was thinking that you
were in a healthcare community, areright? I was. I was the
associate director for the first MAPS threeAdult Wellness Center, which were for people
over the age of fifty five,and the median age at the time was

(04:03):
sixty eight, and so it waspretty interesting to work with that demographic,
I bet and challenging, and Ithink Matt you can understand this. A
lot of the people like when yousee a ninety year old walk in and
lift weights, I'm like, dude, I have no excuse, you know,
I gotta get my button gear.So that's a racial Yeah, awesome.

(04:24):
Ellen. When you guys started ADad's a Diabetes, my understanding is
it was your kids met at camp, your diabetes camp, and you thought,
oh, this would be fine.You already do a podcast. But
what has the experience been like foryou? Have you heard from other parents
that you've helped? Oh yeah,quite a bit. You know. It
would mostly get that through Facebook andwhatnot, and we get some emails of
the folks that because the way wedid ours was a narrative where we went

(04:46):
from what it was like being diagnosedand when we what was at when we
first came home with all the waythrough the journey, and now we just
it's just more topical. But itseems that we're building a little bit of
a we're building a following because wekind of just I don't know, we

(05:06):
it's not very scripted at all,and we just go off the top of
our heads and sometimes it gets funny. Sometimes me and him, both probably
Mark more than me, have criedon the podcast because sometimes man, it
just it hits that that cry buttonand it just becomes emotional. And he

(05:27):
always wants me to edit that outand I never do because that's the best
part, and it just says itjust makes him feel less alone, even
though we have millions of us.Yeah, so that's we've gotten really good
feedback. It's interesting too with thisgroup today because Alan and I are parents
of kids with type one and MattNamber are people with type one, so
you have different perspectives and feel free. I'll steer this around, but feel

(05:49):
free to jump around. You don'thave to. You can always say I
want to go back to this,but but I want to jump to how
ye all are doing? And Amber, let me start with you. How
long have you been, you know, home? How How long have you
been self isolating? What's going on? I've been self isolating for about a
month, and I mean I getout once a week to get groceries or

(06:11):
I have so many deliver stuff.But I'm really thankful. I mean,
I have thankfully plenty of insulin inmy refrigerator, I have all my dexcom
supplies, so I'm not fearful whenit comes to that. But I also
think about I've had this disease forso long, and I survived the Spanish
flu while in another country. What, yeah, all right, so this

(06:33):
is just a good turn. Okay, So Spanish flu is the nickname for
a stream, right, that's whatyou mean? So what happened? Where
were you? I didn't know thatit was such a big deal, and
I have joked about it pretty muchmy whole life. I went to Paris,
France to visit a friend for themillennium and so in nineteen ninety nine
I was over there, and thenwe flew to Dublin, Ireland, and

(06:56):
I spent a couple of We spenta week there, and then when I
got back to Paris, I gotreally sick and was diagnosed with the Spanish
flu. So I've always made ajoke that I got the Spanish flu in
Dublin and got treated in Paris.So and I did until I read a
New York Times article and I talkedabout forty to fifty million people have passed

(07:16):
away from this, and it justI thought, my gosh, I survived
it. And I didn't even knowit was a big deal. I just
thought it was a regular flu.So I'm here for a reason that's intense.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to factcheck my initial response. Of course,
with the newspackers, I grabbed myphone because Spanish flu I don't believe
even originated in Spain, right,I did not. Yeah, the Spanish

(07:44):
newspaper was the only newspaper that actuallywould print what was going on because they
were trying to hunker down the newsabout it. That's where the term Spanish
flu came from, because they werethe first one to actually public You come
out and say that there's an epidemic, there's there's a pandemic. How are
you? How are you doing likeday to day feeling good, hanging in

(08:05):
there? Wellgies. I live bymyself and the allergies. I mean,
it's like I woke up one morningI was like, I've got a sore
throat and a dry cough. I'mlike that that's it, you know,
sign me up. But my sisteris an ICU nurse, and so anytime
that I get freaked out, andI have a lot of naturopathic friends that
are I mean, I have tripledup on my zinc and all the things

(08:26):
I take settlements naturally mean normally,but I have really up my game.
I'll just say that. Okay,Matt, I'm assuming you have not been
exposed to the Spanish flu in yourlife, but how are you holding up?
You know, I'm doing pretty good. You mentioned or Amber mentioned the
she stalked upon an insulin and Iwas like, oh, yeah, so
I am now I my life andI had just moved lay like the week

(08:52):
that it was going crazy, andso we went to the store to stock
up on our like foundational stuff andit was gone. Were like, great,
we don't have anything. And I'veonly brought enough insuland lasting for six
weeks because my sister was supposed toget married on April sixteenth, and so
I was like, okay, I'llbe fine, Like we'll just go back
down and I'll get the rest ofit from my parents fridge. And we

(09:13):
didn't have a fridge we've first gothere, so I was like, I
can't bring all my insolence and theygo bad, you know. So the
wedding I got canceled. Everything wentnuts, and I was like, crap,
Like I'm not supposed to leave thehouse. What do I do?
And I was like, well,obviously I need insolence. I had to
make a trick about three hours away, go grab the insulin and come back
up. So thankfully now I'm inthe same place where I have enough insulin,

(09:33):
I have text com and pump supplies. For a second, I was
like, do we need to rashin this to last like a couple of
weeks longer or what's going on?So that was interesting. But you also
mentioned you have a sister who's inthe ICU as a nurse right now,
staying there. So I have threesisters that are all nurses, and so
I'm the same time, I'm like, all right, what do I need

(09:54):
to know? What's going on,and that has been interesting. One of
my sisters, who is in theice you as a nurse, is also
a Type one, and so Iwas like, WHOA, stay super safe,
please be careful because her unit isone of the core units for coronavirus
patients in San Diego. So it'slike, crap, I don't I don't
feel good about this, you know, but she's doing anything she can't actually

(10:16):
staying safe and they're all doing well. I'm doing well, so I'm happy.
It's all everybody's healthy. Wow.I have a question really quick because
I think one of the things that'sfrustrating is a person with diabetes is that,
of course we already know that wemost of us already know that we
have our we're immune deficient or youknow, we've got a problem there.
But I don't like the fact thatit's like this heightened level of stress because

(10:39):
and I think it's a reminder tomanage your diabetes because they say your higher
risk if your A ONEC is highif you have not taken care of yourself,
and so yeah, I think that'syou know, I do that natch
every day, and I have to. I just choose to believe that that's
going to be something that helps saveme from that. I mean, you
know, the way that I seeit, it's like an extra barrier right

(11:00):
where it's like it's not going tobe a force field of surrounding protection,
but like it's an extra step thatwe can take. And you know,
people say that diabetics take forever toheal and they get infections and all of
their wounds. No we don't.You know you are terrible, then yeah,
you're gonna see more infections and amputationsand complications. If you're controlled,
you've got that level of protection,that barrier that's going to help you live

(11:22):
a normal life. You know.I have a loved one that is owned
as a nurse in New Orleans onthe COVID unit and she started lad and
she's a millennial. Didn't buy intoall the hype until she went to her
first shift and this is when itreally started spiking. And she's been keeping

(11:43):
me up. They did pretty muchdaily um and that realization hitting her.
The first night they had like athey have one wing, one wing of
the the largest hospital in New Orleans. Then she goes back to work the
next night and have like a floor. Then she goes back home a third
night and they have three three floors. So the thing that happens and New

(12:05):
Orleans is really real, she said. But what she had said that was
so interesting because she knows that Andison'sdiabetic. But she said, you know
that what they're seeing most of all, and I think it's been reported now
is mostly in New Orleans what shehas seen come through the door or type
two diabetics and that you know,and mostly they're obese. A one cs

(12:28):
are already too high when they comein. Most of are not coming back
home. So and that's not theto scare anybody, but it's just too
Matt's point, if you're a oneC, which we've been tracking Aniston's and
since we've been sheltering in place,her line has been just flat. And
if your A one C is good, it's your like a normal person without

(12:52):
diabetes. You just your A onec's good. I mean, if you're
blood sugars, if you maintain yourblood sugars. And now that's my opinion,
and that was the advice she wasgiven to me that what she sees
were diabetics did not have issues withtheir awenc or are relatively healthy like my
ath they're not having any any ofthat at all. Right, Yeah,
this is a good topic of conversationtoo because in my line of work where

(13:16):
I coach type one diabetics, right, and they come to me, how
do I build muscle? How doI achieve my fitness goals? Like what's
the secret supplements? And I'm like, there's no secret supplement. The first
step is to control your blood sugars. If you don't need that, your
body can optimize the nutrition as fuel. You know, it's always the foundational
step is control your diabetes first.Yeah, but I would just jump in
and say is and I've had I'vebeen doing interviews with endochronologists and CDs really

(13:41):
since mid February. I did myfirst one on this people with type one
diabetes who are otherwise healthy or notimmuno compromised. And I think that's a
really, really big difference. Sowhen you haven't you guys know this,
when you have an autoimmune disease,you are not immunocompromised. They are very
different things. And think about it. If you're and this is for our
audience really not for you guys,but I'm going to stay anyway, So

(14:03):
think about it. When your childis diagnosed, your doctor does not hand
you a mask and gloves and abubble and send you home. They do
not tell you as people who areimmune compromised to take precautions at school to
things like that. I mean,it's a very very different mindset. I
think it's very difficult for people becausethe semantics, because of the wording right
to understand that. So, ifyou have a person with type one diabetes

(14:26):
who has no I hate this wordcomorbidities, you know you don't have these
other underlying health problems. You areset up to be as healthy as you
can be. Now, having saidthat, I agree with everything everybody else
has said. You want your ABECas low as they could be. Blah
blah blah. But I know alot of parents will listen to my show
your AEC your teenager. Excuse me, let me start that again. You're

(14:48):
a teenager with an A ONEC.That's probably the highest it's ever going to
be in his lifetime. Yeah right, Maybe an anc of eight isn't going
to get coronavirus and drop dead inthe middle of the night just because of
Yeah, I can't live in fear. We have to be reasonable. We
have to take all the measures wecan take, and it's scary. But
I'll link up a lot of stuffwith this with this episode when we put

(15:11):
it out, there's a lot ofreally good information that has been shared about
other countries and type one diabetes andkids especially doing really okay. Having said
that, if my either of mykids gets COVID nineteen, I guarantee you
I Am going to be freaking outand stressed around the clock. Having said

(15:33):
all that, all the rational andreasonable thinking goes way out the window.
So that's just my knowledge base asa lay person, you know, that's
all. That's what I feel likeas well, because Anniston actually was sort
of the catalyst for us sheltering inplace before everybody did. Now I have
a two legged I have a bigbalance that you're probably seeing all the news

(15:56):
a lot. I'm a I'm awealth man and by trade, so I'm
an essential service which is changing bythe hour, as you can imagine,
as a financial advisor, wealth managerwith a Type one diabetic kid. So
I guess that the boil it alldown. I took it serious really quickly.

(16:19):
My staff thought I was just freakingout over the markets and what was
going on because I could see whatthe economic impact was going to be.
But the catalyst for me doing whatI did was for Anniston. And so
I had I had Leslie, mywife, Leslie, who's an r N,
but she is not an RN whenit comes to Anniston. She's a
mom and freaks out. But Ihad her go ahead and get supplies.

(16:42):
We have three months supply of insulinand all that sort of stuff. I
started locking the door and not allowingany clients in the office, everything phone
calls and things like that. Andso there's some good things that are coming
out of this as well. Youknow, she was already healthy. I
didn't know a lot about the typeas far as type one, how that

(17:04):
would affect because you just assume you'reimmuno compromised UM, and that's we've always
ran off that assumption. You know, to your point, Stacy, when
you when you pull back and afterafter you get to the through the five
stages of grief that happened in aboutfifteen minutes, UM, you you you
you come to that point where yourealize a way to segment she's super healthy,

(17:26):
She's gonna be okay. And thenthe information that you're given that we
find out that hey, you know, it's definitely not the same and when
they're talking, and I really wishthat there would be more information put out
about the difference between type one andtype two, which we all have.
We know, we've shared enough memesabout that crap. I mean, I
guess as I will lose the heels. But for the media, you're it's

(17:49):
scared, Like we don't let Anniston. We have to be very careful what
she watches because she will get scaredbecause it just says diabetes. Yeah,
and you know see that and onethat specially are going to tune to their
health. They freak out, andthat that information should be out there even
more that just like with my my, my, my loved one. Down

(18:12):
in New Orleans, it's all beentype two. Everything's type two. They're
always consistently the unhealthiest city in thecountry. Um, so you're in an
incredible hotspot there. So I guessnow that was a big, long time
tribal that first you're gonna mappen.My mind is happening. So I've listened

(18:33):
to your show. Ellen, don'tworry, I'm gonna jump out. Yeah,
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to ask you. You had theflu in two thousand. Yeah, and
you were really sick and you wereabroad. Were you living with type one
at the time? You were,weren't you? Oh? Yeah, how'd

(19:41):
you handle? That's it? Ijust wrote a post about this, and
it's been a long time since I'vewritten a post because I don't write very
often, but I don't even rememberif I had my tester with me.
I have to say it was avery unique experience, and that my friend
was a nanny for the US ambassador, and so I was in a different
such a than just being there asa tourist. But I went to the

(20:03):
er, which was public healthcare.I watched a man beat himself with a
brick in the parking lot, becauseif you're bleeding, you got to bed.
I was in for six, sixor eight hours, and my friend
was literally like scared. She waslike, she's gonna die my fever.
I knew I had a fever becauseI was and I hadn't eaten in two
days, and that's what made meher, you know, like I'm not

(20:26):
that person. And so they gaveme one pill, and finally when they
took me back, they took acup off of the stand and had been
used to break my fever. Theytook an X ray of my chest,
and my friend kept saying, Idon't think that she's getting proper treatment,
so she called the US ambassador andthey shipped me to the American Hospital in
Paris. Wow. And I brokemy fever in root and sweat through a

(20:52):
woolcoat. Oh, I mean seriouslysweat through a woolcoat. And again I
have no idea. I don't rememberwhat my watcher was. And that's when
I was the only patient I think, and got the proper treatment and they
gave me two pills and I waswalking the streets of Paris in two days.
Wow. And so that just Imean I knew then and there no
offense to American healthcare at all,but the two pills where I would have

(21:18):
been like on a month's worth ofantibiotics, and you know what I mean.
So it's just a very thankful,very strange, very strange all around.
Yeah. Wow. But I thinkit speaks to and Madam coming to
you on this one. I thinkI think it speaks to the difference between
parents of kids with type one andpeople who live with type one. Guys
are a lot more resilient than Ithink sometimes we give you credit for.

(21:41):
And if my son was without histester right in a hospital setting, I
would lose my cannot say on thispodcast. I think I was twenty years
ago. Testers weren't so convenient,they weren't little. Yeah, And I
don't even I think I was evenon cloudy and clearance them at that point.
So, and I don't remember ifI took an extra bottle. I
mean, you know, it's justall I would just say, it's a

(22:03):
different world when you're a young adult. So, Matt, I know you're
prepared. I know you're You're goodto go. So you said you have
a sister with type one, right, I do, all right, So
let me wrap this question back around. So there's a big difference between adults
and parents, Right, how areyour parents doing? Are they calling you
every day to check on you andyour sister? That's a good question,
and I have an alternate perspective Iwant to offer after I answer this one.

(22:26):
So, my parents are and havealways been great at thirty thousand foot
view of like checking every once ina while, how are you doing?
Like I moved across the country toNew York for a couple of years,
and that was a time in mylife where I didn't test my blood sugars.
There's a time my mom called meand she's like, how's it going,
how's everything, how's work? Haveyou been checking your blood sugars?

(22:48):
And I was like, no,why not? I was like, I
don't even know how blood sugar testeris, and those are just a silence,
like you like I can tell hershe's freaking out a little bit,
and I'm like, I should probably, I guess I should, you know
what I mean, Like that waspretty bad. But yeah, so as

(23:08):
far as get no, that's verynormal that as a period. But I'll
tell you, okay, I'm gonnalet you finish. But as a parent,
you know your mother and you musthave a great relationship for you to
say no, I haven't been checkingright than saying yep, I'm good not
having a lie about it, knowingthat she's not going to judge me and
throw the phone across the room.You know, she's gonna talk me through

(23:30):
it. So yeah, definitely greatrelationships there. Um. As far as
now, yeah, every once ina while, honestly, I'm the one
calling them more often and just kindof checking in see everything's going. Because
my parents both work in the medicalfield. They're still going into the hospital,
all of my sisters medical field,my wife medical field. So it's
like I'm the only one actually stayingat all um, and I was en

(23:52):
route to be in the medical field, like I'm an e MT and I
was going to be a paramedic andfirefighter and then I ended up stopping that
to become the typed by a healthcoach that I am now. But I
have some baseline knowledge saying place Ican keep a cup of conversation with them,
but yeah, I'm one calling themchecking in and then they of course
asked the questions on the phone.But I'm kind of the helicopter parent with

(24:15):
my sister because I get super worried. And the day that she got diagnosed,
I was in college and I gota phone call. I was living
in a Christian prattorney house at thetime, and they said, we think
that Carlin has type of diabetes.And I bolted out the door, tears
running down my face, got inthe car. I was crying, sobbing
the whole way over there, justdriving over and I opened the front door.

(24:40):
She was in the living room.She had been diagnosed at that point,
and we just looked at each other, didn't say where it ran over
and hiped each other. And itwas probably one of the saddest moments of
my life, like worse than myown diagnosis. And I know that I
don't know what it's like to havea kid, or even a kid would
type one, but I imagine it'ssomething similar where just this connection of like,

(25:00):
I am so sorry that you haveto go through this, and I
kind of choked up right now justthinking about it. I would much try
to have taken two diagnosises and haveher go through one. It was one
of the worst days that I hadto go through. I'm kidding out,
So let me cut you off.Though. So she's in a situation where

(25:21):
she sees her big brother who's doingreally well. But now the kind of
the mask comes off a little bitand you get to say, no,
this is really really hard, LikeI'm doing great, life is good,
but diabetes is really hard. Wasthat kind of what you and she were
going through. Yeah, in thatperiod of time in my life, especially
with diabetes, it was the I'mstill superman. I can't be brought down,

(25:47):
Like I'm not even at test myblood sugars and I'm gonna pretend that
it doesn't exist. And I'd runto the bathroom and test my blood sugars
at restaurants and I wouldn't even showit to my friends, and so playing
that I'm still doing great role andthen seeing her, I just broke down
and you know, the reality ofthe situation. And she she knew what
was going on. She was awareof what type one is, and um,

(26:08):
you know saw me. Obviously,she knew it was possible to still
live a good life. But man, that was prob Matt. Do you
think that that you've definitely was it? Was it a turning point in your
life as far as you beginning totake more ownership in your own self care.

(26:29):
You know, I wish it was. Yeah, thanks for that,
Yeah, I wish it was.It was a few years later. I'm
just kind of curious about that.Yeah. Yeah. I was living in
New York and I was dating whois now my wife. We were a
long distance and I got to aplace in New York. I had a
few scares and I was like,you know what, I've probably got complications

(26:52):
in my future. I need tostart taking care of myself if I want
to spend my life with her,with future kids, whatever it is.
And so I asked her to helpyou remember the test of blos sugars once
a day, and then once beforemeals, and then you know, beforehand
after meals, and then it wasa turning point of like I need to
give my life in order, youknow. Yeah, but unfortunately, yeah,
my sister being diagnosed, wasn't thattime? Yeah? Thanks. As

(27:18):
another interesting point that's being brought upbecause of all the shelter and place stuff,
that a lot of people are wantingto go to their doctor, calling
their doctors to get to want toget tested, and what they're finding is
a lot of it or anxiety attacks, which are or exactly some of the
early symptoms of COVID. You know, Uh, you feel feverish because you're

(27:41):
sweating, you get and all that, and it's just people are having an
anxiety attacks staying at home. Wow, so wrong, I think when it
comes back to the fear and allthis stuff, you know, I I
this may sound ridiculous that every morningI start with affirmation so I am healthy,
safe, you know, because Iknow and if I'm anxiety written in

(28:02):
the morning, I take more timeto just lay there process the feelings so
that I don't start my day onthe wrong foot. I also, which
is as hard for me to say, is considering what I do. I've
turned off social media a little bitand I don't start my day with it.
I go for a walk or Isit my son, you know,
I do other things that are goingto bring up my energy and my positivity.

(28:25):
I guess my attitude. So Ithink that's something that all people should
be doing right now, not justpeople with diabetes. But it definitely helps
me self care right and now,just start your day is gonna leads into
the rest of your day. I'vebeen trying to do that myself. I
used to wake up and just gothrough Instagram right away. Yes, so
do I depend on this? Whyam I doing this? And now it's
like I read my Bible, Ihaven't time for myself with breakfast, just

(28:48):
to calm down and drink some coffee, you know. So I love that.
That's amazing, Amber, thank you. I think that that's a wonderful
point. And I now have afuture show. My next episode, I
want to do a talk to morepeople and find out how are you taking
care of yourself? What do youdo, and what could help other people.
I think those are all really goodsuggestions. I'll give mine, and
then Allen, I'd love to goto you. I'm walking my dog every

(29:11):
day, even though my allergies areinsane, for longer walks, and I'm
trying We're very lucky. We livenear a green way, and I often
will walk on the street in theneighborhood, but I'm trying to stay to
the greenway because I feel like seeingthe trees and being in that that's quiet
spot. And I only I alwayslisten to podcasts, but for my walks,
I only listen to dumb, funpodcasts. It's no news, and
I don't and I've never been abig news watcher. Even though I worked

(29:33):
in local television news for ten years, I very rarely watched television news and
I very rarely watched television, andit's I mean, I watched dumb netbooks
stuff like everybody else. But Idon't watch the news. And it helps
me immensely because I have some trustednews sources that I go to at the
end of the day, like fiveor six o'clock, I'm all caught up.
But I think that having a tbonall day long is just amazing.

(29:56):
And I don't know how the healthcareworkers in the front I don't mean the
front lines of medicine. I meanthe people who are on in the spotlight
and talking to the cable shows andall that. I don't know how they're
gonna wind down after this because they'retrying. Yeah, Ellen, do you
have suggestions whether psychological impact of thisis gonna be tremendous um And unfortunately,
due to my job, I haveto know because I have clients that calling

(30:18):
me sure, right, So everybodygets the same questions when's this going to
stop? Like like oh, yeah, you know, and and the emotional
impact. But what I've seen isafter the first week, and this is
going on about three weeks ago.After the first week, I started getting
different calls. And in twenty twoyears of being a wealth manager, I've

(30:41):
never had people call to check onme. I mean, things are going
off a cliff economically, and they'recalled. I have one guy call to
pray with me. I mean,I'm like, why don't you do this
because I did? Well? No, but no, but no, all
seriousness, it's I think you're seeingpeople change. I've heard more people deleting

(31:02):
Facebook. They don't want it.Unfortunately, have to watch the news to
know what's going on at all times, and it takes a personal toll.
So when I walk in the door, I'm not We don't do any news
at the house. I do itwhen the kids go to bed or un
Leslie has to walk out of theroom just because I have to kind of
know what's going to go on forthe next day than any breaking news during
the middle of to night. Butyeah, my suggestion would be, and

(31:26):
it is to my friends, don'twatch the news. It's because as you're
not getting any good data, goto a trusting news source, or go
to the source itself, because there'stypically you're getting much debt better data straight
from the horse's mouth. And I'mtalking about your your Department for Health CDC
just right, that's right. Getto go to a political stuff. If

(31:51):
you want to call your sheriff's departmentin your county, call they because they're
getting information that they will share withyou from the governors that maybe aren't going
to get disseminated and it's not sexyand and scary or conspiratorial. They're just
gonna give you what the facts oron what they're seeing and what the trends
are and m So that's helped meto try to stay away from all that

(32:13):
crap because I got two fends area little bit a good conspiracy and I'm
going to jump in on the newsas we'll just kind of button this up.
Um, when I do as aas a news person, having my
entire career in local news, radioand television, there is no vast conspiracy
theory in your local news. Thosepeople don't get enough money, so just
watch. That's true. It's true. I always used to say, you

(32:36):
know, the only biases and newsare lazy and money. And that's not
happening in your local news department.It's happening on your cable talk shows.
So watch your local news. They'llget you the news that you need.
And thank you Ellen for the Thumbsum, well, i'mant to say that because
a local news is a great source. I'm sorry. And then no,
no, that's great. And thenyou know, we're just what concerns being
more of the talking heads in thecable shows rather than a BTS that's d

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So let's talk podcasting before I letyou go. This is going to be
you know, I like the funstuff. So Amber, I know you

(33:47):
were joking before we all got together, like, I don't know we're going
to talk about equipment. But asyou're as you're watching us, you know
you can see that we have differentmicrophones. Although Alan and I have that
same blue alien glow. If you'reseeing the video, do you have it?
You have it too, So Ithink we all have this. Matt,
all right, let's go. I'mgonna let's go through and we can
just talk about what we're using becauseI know so many people who want to

(34:08):
get into podcasting right now because theirhome go for it. You don't even
need any of this. All youneed is your phone. So um what
I have. Listen. I'm abig proponent of good enough audio is good
enough studio quality sound, but badaudio I never listen how good the podcast

(34:32):
is. So I use this littleguy here as an audio technic at twenty
one hundred and at R twenty onehundred. Lots of people use this fancy
schmancy little mic. Uh what dowe call this flag flack my mic fleg?
Yes, very fancy. You canbuy a blank mic flag on Amazon,

(34:54):
and you can print your own stickers, so I'm super fancy. Or
you can buy fears about that.Yeah, you can buy them custom made
or you know, but just beingI've worked for many TV stations and some
of them have to do d IY. Most of them don't, or
it's a different world. But butyeah, you can get stickers whatever.
The dude behind me that's a blueyetti and a lot of people love the

(35:16):
blue yetti. It's a big starter, Mike. It's okay. It's just
not great unless you have a supersuper quiet and sound treated room. A
lot of people use it incorrectly becauseit's a weird mic. Like you can
see I'm talking. We're all talkingkind of into the side, although Alan
moved, but the yetti you haveto talk right in front of me like

(35:36):
that. Yeah, that's a verytechnical demonstration. All right, Matt,
what are you using the same thing? You know, I've got the exact
same thing. I have the ATRtwenty one hundred with the Knox fields,
I don't cough into the mic andmake it too loud. But I also
have the blue yetti blackout version andI use that one for like group interviews

(35:57):
if it's in a conference room,because it has more of a surround you
can talk to the side of it, like you mentioned. But yeah,
for the most part et R twentyone hundred. It's great for the budget
and it delivers great sound, SoI love it. Is that what you
have alan for the for the podcastlike that I do with Mark and what
I'm doing right now the twenty onehundred. There you go. Yeah,

(36:19):
that's it, you know. Andthe biggest, the biggest thing I see
people forget to do if they're gonnastart podcasting on their own is get freaking
headphones or some your buds. Yeah. It's amazing, isn't it. Yeah?
Yeah, differ, Yeah, allthe difference in the world. But
you can podcast from your phone.And I tell you what that I found.
I'm not going to go on abig rent, Stacey. Don't doing

(36:42):
it with your phone. We've recordeda few things for our church web page,
our Facebook page, and I boughtthis little lapel Mic. It was
like ten bucks ten bucks. Imean it's it's the plastic and but just
having that plugged into your off itis amazing what the sound difference is where

(37:04):
it actually brings out the quality ofyour It brings out the lower part of
the voice and it doesn't squash itso much. So you're the voice recorder
with your I phone. Get alittle of pale Mic off of Amazon for
less than twenty bucks and you willsound dangier professional. I love your accent,
Alan, I just gotta say Ilove what accent. The Arkansas podcast

(37:30):
his partner Marcus the UK. Soit's an awesome show. You've got Alan
with his his Arkansas accid, You'vegot Mark with his British accent. Oh
yeah. And our small town famouspodcast is a group of let's five of
us, but it was almost fourround four episode or at any one time,
and they all most of them talkslower than I do. So yeah,

(37:52):
so it's really interesting to hear andfor you a joke that you weren't
sure what you use. I knowyou usually have an engineer when you podcast,
and your show sounds great. Thankyou very much. When I first
started it, we I had myaudio engineer that was present all the time,
and Ryan was kind of the techyperson, but that all changed and
so I do it all myself.I record everything myself and then I send

(38:15):
the files and they clean them up. So I'm really thankful, and but
I'm also mindful I'm doing this forsix years now that I as something doesn't
sound right. Uh, you gota twicket. So and if you saw
me turned around, I have thislittle drawer set up behind me. I've
been an audio for a long time. I have a lot of little toys,

(38:37):
and when you mentioned the love mic, I'm like, oh, I
have like six. But when Ihave I have older ones that before you
had to do the lightning thing,you know, whatever you could plug into
the headphone jack. I have newerones that goes. So I totally I
love that and that if you're ifyou're listening and you're thinking, oh,
I should get an HR twenty onehundred, I would actually urge you to

(38:57):
look into the Samsung QTE to you, which is the same mike pretty much
except when you touched I probably can'thear it because it's in a stand,
but when you touch the at Rand if you're on remote and you're holding
it, it'll give you the lotof hand noise. Where the Samsung for
whatever reason, it's really the sameMike, and it's less expensive, but

(39:17):
you can carry it around and itdoesn't go you know, you don't hear
any more. So that's my nextpurchase. I bought that for I do
a segment with more McCarthy once amonth, like ask the d Mom.
And I don't give my guests microphonesgenerally, but she's a regular, so
I sent her the Samsung and itsounds better than me. I hate it.

(39:39):
It's been fun though, and donellMike. Even those opens you can
just get one of those little lightningbolt adapters. Yeah. I think they're
ten bucks or something like that.It's the fun of podcasting is all the
toys that you can get along withit. I hate most of y'all do
so most everybody does mote podcast rightor you do more? Okay, I

(40:02):
prefer to do it, but nowI mean that's I can't. Yeah,
I'd love doing person when I can. But it's so real. Yeah yeah,
yeah, So you know, wedo a group podcast, so it's
very interesting. So we always havea minimum has rarely been too, but
it's you leave four, so Idon't know if I can switch this around.
So everything we do is sm sevenBS fancies you probably, um,

(40:27):
those things are great, but youhave to have a preampt to lift them
up. So we do usual thingcalled cloudlifter. Well you're serious with this
stuff? Huh? You know it'ssounds quality kind of got bred into me
from the dude that taught me,and I didn't know that it was killing
a mosquito with a sledgehammer. Ididn't know kept other people start a little
podcast for free. I mean,yes, it's so easy they I don't,

(40:52):
and I don't know if you arelike this, the ones that if
you're engineering it yourself. It's veryhard for me to listen to news programs
or anything without saying there was acut? Are they need a quick I
could have done more DS singer compress. That stuff drives me nuts. I
married my newscast director Slate and Imet at a TV station a million years

(41:14):
ago, and I cannot watch localnews because he's the worst, because he
would get on my headset like youhave an eyelash on your shirt is wrinkled
straight in your collar it's very funny. Yeah, yeah, we didn't.
We didn't. We didn't want towork together that well, we're very happily
married. But anyhow funny. BeforeI wrap it up, we're talking.

(41:36):
It is a sunny here in NorthCarolina, a sunny Saturday, and I'm
just curious what's the plan for therest of the day, anybody. I
mean, we're all staying home,but what are you thinking about doing?
And Matt, I'll start with youall right after this call, I've got
about forty five minutes before I turnedzoom back on and I'm actually leading a

(41:58):
group fitness class for I have onediabetics, So that's gonna be super fun.
I'm super pumped. We're all gonnahave video feeds going, so it's
going to be a party. Andyeah, I'm super excited for that.
Can people jump in on that?Like, can we sign up? If
people are hearing this and interested inyou know, it's a few days from
now that this will be airing,but can people get your contact and jump
in with you. There's a goodchance that if this is a successful is

(42:22):
the first time doing it is successful? Now I'll keep it going. So
if people do want to look forit. If it's there, I would
go to the Warriors Tribe dot comand that's where you can find the zoom
link and all that great stuff.So that's where it's at right now.
We'll see. I'd love to keepdoing this. I love doing zoom stuff.
So that's my big planter. Theday group sitting this class awesome.

(42:44):
How about you Ellen. That's wellI'm super fascinated now on this and you'll
put that in the show notes ofcourse, of course, because you know
it's funny we shoot the trend ofexercising at home that you know that that
thing's blowing up and and to knowwhat you're doing with type one. That
just that just as another that resourceis phenomenal because of my Anniston likes exercise

(43:08):
and so anyway, Yeah, that'sthat's that's very cool. Um, it
will be like herding cats, thoughI can't imagine doing anything when you start
mute everybody seriously, man, Yeah, but today it's actually raining here.
We've had past Oklahoma, Texas andnow it's here. Uh, just thunderstorms

(43:30):
and stuff for the next time severaldays. But uh so you know Arkansas,
Um, we do what we doevery Saturday. We stay indoors pretty
much. We don't learn to talkto I'm just kidding now, but we
will just stay at home. AndI think the kids right now, they're
down there Ben they've been binge watchingStar Wars movies off of Disney Plus,

(43:51):
so you know, we're kind ofdo them. I think, looking back
on this, one of the thingsthat I think that we will find there
will be some very fond memories oncewe come on the other side of this,
because families are coming closer together.Facebook and report of people people are
really turning to faith. They're startingto And me and my friend talked about
this the other day before before thisreally kicked off and weren't really taking it

(44:13):
seriously. We went down to Shreveport, Louisiana and just hang out for the
day. We did some acts throwing, and we we wrote gold cards.
Just a boy's day, all right, right, so and it sounds cool
and it's like, okay, wey, we'll do it again. And well,
I haven't even seen them since then. Yeah, they're my best friends.

(44:34):
So you start, I think atthe end of the day and you'll
probably already seeing this. You willnot take anything for granted for a long
time just seeing your seeing your momand dad. Like my oldest daughter now
is expecting good babies, so Igonna be a granddad in July. I
haven't seen her in three weeks,you know. So it those things you

(44:55):
don't you know, you just youlook back and and there's gonna be things
that you take for granted. Soso a lot to see in that silver
lining out this whole thing, nodoubt. Okay, Amber, what's fun
tap for later today? Well?I have to can you hear the siren
in the background? No good,because in Oklahoma, because we're doing a
tornado alley at noon on every Saturday, there's a they test the alarms,

(45:21):
so I'm glad you can't hear it. So yeah, it's about thirty eight
degrees here right now. It droppedforty degrees in the past two years,
but it's gonna be forty seven latertoday. So my friend's gonna come over
and stay her distance and we're gonnawalk her dog, which has been nice
because we we go an extra coupleof miles and we really challenge each other.

(45:43):
I will probably do a virtual happyhour later and clink glasses with my
friends something like this, which isgreat. Enjoy some wine with my friends.
And I'm working on a challenge rightnow and maybe you guys can shine
in. So with all these fitnesschallenges and stuff like spell your name and
the letter A you have to doto burpes or whatever, I thought,
let's do a diabetes challenge and letwhat's your blood sugar today? So that's

(46:06):
like at a time every day.Excuse me, let's just say your blood
sugars from one twenty three. There'dbe something funny. It doesn't have to
be a fitness challenge. In fact, I don't want it to be.
I want it to be like changeyour lancet, or connect with somebody in
the diabetes world that you haven't metbefore, or something, so that every
day diabetes is there for you.You have something that is entertaining, but

(46:28):
it is reminding you to test yourblood sugar and making it a game.
So there used to be that hashtagin the olden days of Twitter, and
I don't know if you you mighthave been their amber. There was the
whole thing like big now and itwas hashtag beig now, and we used
to do a lot of stuff likeon Wednesdays. I think was big Now.
I don't remember Blue Fridays has hasstayed. But Amber, if you

(46:52):
want to do that, let usknow and we'll ample. Yeah, that's
awesome. I'll send you guys anemail with kind of what I'm thinking,
and I'd love you either try.I think it could be a group effort,
because oh always want to make itfun. And when you said your
friend is coming over, you meanstaying outside, and oh, yeah,
she just come in. We weboth have our backpacks with their hand sanitizers.
Mean we don't look at each other. It's like, yeah, cool.

(47:20):
Well I have to Alan's point earlier. I have a five o'clock call
with my cousins today, a happyhour, and we are close, but
we are not like we don't alwaystalk on the phone. In fact,
I can remember the last time weall five of us got together like that.
But two weeks ago, I've lostall track of time. Ten days
ago, I don't know. Iset up a Zoom call for my whole
family. So it was my mother, my aunt, my uncle, Mike,

(47:43):
the kids my age and then theyounger kids. And it was such
a mess because of course the olderadults were trying to figure out Zoom,
and they spent the whole fool andthe younger kids are all gen z,
so they spent the whole time changingall the backgrounds and snapchat. They were
snap chatting to the whole thing,and so we kicked them all out.

(48:04):
So today we're connecting. And Ithink that's the point Allan, right,
is that hopefully we will have abetter handle on our relationships, will not
take them for granted. We'll seepeople more when we can, and I
wonder in twenty years what the thelasting change is going to be on that
right, Well, we have morein person less online. I don't know.
I don't know if it'll last,but it's really interesting to think about.

(48:28):
Well, thank you all for spendingsome time. It's so fun to
talk to everybody again. This isvery selfish, like we started out talking
about, I could not air thisanywhere and just have had a great hour.
So thanks for being my friends andcoming on to talk. Well,
thanks so much Stacy for organizing this. It's so fun. I'll hang out
together all right, Amber, gobuy your audio technic at twenty one hundred.
I need you to put out theshow notes. I'll remember, well,

(48:51):
I will, I'm going to putthat in. I'll be like Stacy's
Mike buys and here's a Samson.I need all the help I can get.
Nah, you sound great and that'swhat interesting. Right, you sound
terrific, so you don't need tospend a fortune. I was wondering what
her setup was because she sounded great. Run your buds right, yeah,
and using my Apple, my myMac. So there you go. I

(49:13):
mean, thank you technology. Yeah, fancy. All right, guys,
have a great day, Matt.I hope your class goes well. Thank
you very much. We will seeyou soon. Sounds good. Thanks again, Stacy By
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