May 14, 2020 • 51 mins
Two dads of T1D daughters, on a podcast, trying to figure it all out.
Alan and Mark are REUNITED...and it feels so good! After the Dads recorded their separate group podcasts with other T1D pod hosts, finally the pair are back together again.
The guys run the gamut as they play catch-up, covering such diverse topics as the financial markets, the cost of insulin, tele-Endo visits, gardening, cooking, hiking, whittling, and what the unexpected long-term benefits might be to our families of this pandemic-enforced lock-down...
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Alan and Mark are REUNITED...and it feels so good! After the Dads recorded their separate group podcasts with other T1D pod hosts, finally the pair are back together again.
The guys run the gamut as they play catch-up, covering such diverse topics as the financial markets, the cost of insulin, tele-Endo visits, gardening, cooking, hiking, whittling, and what the unexpected long-term benefits might be to our families of this pandemic-enforced lock-down...
Please do check out our wonderful Dads and Diabetes show sponsors...
Glucose Revival @ https://glucoserevival.com/
Dia-Be-Tees @ www.Dia-Be-Tee.com
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I just want to remind you,guys, this is just me and Mark
telling stories and that nothing that wesay here is intended to be medical a
basis is strictly from our point ofview as two dads telling the stories of
our T one D kiddos. Wealso want our listeners to know that we
try to maintain a perspective, recognizingthem whatever Alan and I or our families
are dealing with, it doesn't amountto a hill of beans compared to that
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which our daughters or anyone diagnosed withtype one diabetes has to contend with on
a day to day basis. We'redoing good. Ringer and sink. That's
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great. Welcome to Dad's and Diabets. Just two dads and T one D
kiddos on a podcast, back togetheragain, finally trying to figure it all
out. I'm Mark, I'm Alanmy friend. Oh to do to say?
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That's all you have to do?It's literally I did. Oh you
didn't hear me? I did?I said, I'm out, Okay,
I did. There it's just abad uh yeah, I said, And
I'm I'm Alan. That's all Iknow to saying, that's that's what you
told me to say. I did, but I really did. I really
did say it. It's kind ofkind of weird. We get a little
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I feel like we bring rust.I haven't been doing much podcast I guess
I do, was Stacy sims Is, though, about the only thing I've
done. We've done a couple ofFacebook live things with me and me and
Chase out for smart Owl Famous,but that's about it. It's been,
you know, just farting around withthat. But yeah, how are you
up? Been doing? Good man? Good Well. The whole purpose of
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them trying to get this recording donetoday is because you and I we kind
of realized that we haven't recorded fora while. Ordinarily, we don't record
in the summer anyway. We giveourselves a break off usually a couple of
months, spend time with family,recharge our batteries, all of that good
stuff. But of course, becauseof everything that went down here over the
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last couple of months, and alsosome pressures from work for both of us,
you know, we took the decisionto move to a once a month
schedule for the time being. Andkind of the confluence of all that,
the once a month schedule, thecrazy craziness with Corona and everything else,
means that, yeah, you andI just we just haven't gotten together.
Now. Regular listeners will know thatI did a group session with Stacy Simms
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and some other podcasts and T oneD podcasts and that was really fun.
And I dropped that episode on Aprilthe fourteenth, and then today actually I
dropped Alan's episode. Alan did anothersession that Stacy Simms did with some other
T one D podcasters. So youhave gotten to hear from this listeners,
but not together. So here weare and that was that was fun though
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to do that, Yeah, Icould, yeah, you know, and
I was looking forward to doing thisuh with you to this evening for a
little bit. And you know thething when that invitation from Stacy, and
I was even hesitant to do thatbecause the only thing just been on my
mind is everything that's going on,which is I think pretty much every same
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with everybody. I mean, everybodykind of in the same boat obviously,
And but it was I found myselfjust really needing that it was. It's
kind of therapeutic and stuff. Soyeah, I really enjoyed it, and
we talked about more stuff than justronavirus. I don't think we've mentioned it
a whole lot. It's just sopervasive and everything that you see twenty four
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seven. So, and then myjob and my job as a financial advisorus
all, you know, talking withclients all day about it, you know.
So it's it's kind of nice totalk with you, and you know,
I don't know, just just shootthe breeze with you. Yeah,
great to talk to you. Imean, I've really missed talking to you.
(04:26):
I really have. I know youand I We've had a couple of
very brief phone conversations and we texta lot, but it's not the same.
It's not the same as getting aroundthe mic. But anyway, before
we launch into what we've been upto in our respective households, and I
quite literally mean that, because Idon't think either of us have left them
very much. I know that anxiousyou'll be anxious as I am. Alan
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to say that we hope all ofour listeners and their families are safe and
well and are following government guidelines andstaying home and social distancing and all of
the things that were being instructed todo to this it's virus. Uh,
well, pass on by. I'mnot sure you're gonna pass on by,
but at least help us to youknow, stay safe and healthy and wow
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and sure so um yeah, Ihope a lot of listeners, uh are
are in good shape certainly. Yeah, yep, you're sitting up exactly right.
And we just hope everybody's safe andsafe and do onthing need to do
and we'll get do it. We'llget do it soon. It'll be you
know, we'll lock Trump said it'llit'll just wash on through. So he's
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just a couple of months off.But I had to thart, Yeah,
but no, but everybody, Ithink everybody's doing a great job. I
think everybody's doing doing the best theycan, you know, at a local
level, just our families, youknow, I mean this is you through
everybody for a loop. I meangood grief. I mean you know when
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you when just uh just quite ajust quick aside, you know, just
the fact of you know, seeingyour friends and saying, you know,
like I was, I was talkingto on the phone to uh, Jordan
and Chase, a couple of buddiesof mine, that the last time I
really went anywhere was we we wentdown and just had lunch um at in
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Shreveport, and it wasn't you know. A week later, we were kind
of not lockdown. Arkansas isn't ina lockdown position, but everybody's just still
socially distanced. But I haven't physicallybeen in their vicinity in over a month
and a half. And you realize, you know, we just did that
and just took it totally for granted. And that's one thing I think I'll
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get out of this, so Iwon't taking anything like that for granted again
too, That's for sure. Yeah, you know too, it seems it
seems like twenty years ago that yougot to go and just you know,
take your wife out to eat,eat, or just do any stuff like
that. Is weird. Every everyday seems like a week a couple of
things, especially in regass. Youknow, be trying to struggle into round
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my sentence there and end up bysaying passing by when the virus passes up,
and I'm just I don't know howto close that sentence out, because
the reality is nothing returns to anysemblance of normal quite frankly, until there's
a vaccine. Kim and I weretalking about this last night, and you
know, we can we can doall of the social distancing and the hand
washing and staying home as much aswe can, and of course that mitigates,
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that makes things better. But atthe end of the day, people
are going to be and this isn'teverybody I recognize, but people are going
to be reticent, particularly those whoare already know immune compromised to putting themselves
into those typical social situations. Youknow, going to a really popular restaurant
that's going to be shoulder to shoulder, or you know, going to a
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ball game, or you know,going out to the movies. You know,
going to a cinema or the openingnight or the first week of a
big movie when you know, youknow, the the movie house is going
to be full. It's it's it'sgoing to make people nervous, and there
will be a vACC see and hopefullysooner rather than later. But and then
to what you were saying, aswell, you're absolutely right, alan you
certainly you know, we certainly takena step back and realize, you know,
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the little things you you will nolonger take for granted. I mean
Ellen and I were talking about thefact that we were in Dallas like a
couple of three days before things reallywent to hall and a handbasket. I
mean, things were already on thebubble, you know, come into a
boil. And a couple of threedays before that, we were in Dallas
to go watch the US women's nationalteam play in the She Beliefs Cup,
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and also the Lionesses were there fromEngland and Spain and Japan as well.
So we went went there and watchedtwo games back to back and had a
great old time and we're in astadium full of people, and you know,
it was fantastic. And within acouple of days, you know,
we had ended up seeing the lastprofessional soccer game that had taken place on
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US soil. And it's crazy tothink that, you know, and I
think about the next one that mighthappen. I think about Austin FC,
and you know it's it's an auguralMLS season, which is supposed to be
next February March. What will thatlook like? You know, it'll be
a new normal. I mean,and I have start well and playing are
we playing COVID bingo here? Hehas well unprecedented who has disaffectant? Well,
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you know, just I think alot of just comes from my job
of what really occurred to me?Um excuse me? You know, when
it first started. It's really ait's a rapid uh progression through the stages
of grief. Honestly, anything traumaticthat you go through, and it uh,
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life kind of got turned upside down, and it's uh the first thing
you want to do is to regaincontrol, and that's something you can't control.
And so the anxiety ramps up,and everybody reached their acceptance kind of
appear at different times. And youknow the thing is, you know,
I locked down my office personally reallyquickly due to to Anniston. I just
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want to make sure that nothing happenedwhere someone you know, I brought it
in or whatever, and I broughtthat home to her. So, you
know, so I went to umthat place in my mind a lot faster
UM. And but when I thething that I'm considered an essential service being
in the financial services industry, andwhat I've found though is um over time,
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really but just in a couple ofweeks, I found myself being a
lot more optimistic, even as Isaw just horrific numbers medically and financially come
through. The new normal that I'mreferring to is that, you know,
the more I have to explain itto people and give my point of view,
the more optimistic I am simply becauseof what I see, um on
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a day to day basis, fromsmall business owners, um on up the
chain and you know so and it'sreally hard to get real good information simply
because of you know, it's anelection year and things are spun and and
people just want facts and and it'sreally difficult to do that because everything is
shaded um or painted with uh withwith with a spin. But I guess
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my, you know, what Ilook at is just the boots on the
ground and the people that I talkedto. My niece was a my new
and niece is uh she's a Ithink about to finish her quarantine. Uh
she was. She's an r Nat auctioners in New Orleans. UM and
uh, you know she used yourtypical millennials. She didn't take it seriously
and uh she finally worked her firstshift when they started getting impatience and by
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you know, they had I thinka wing they had to wind up opening
up in one of the auctioner's hospitalsand by that was on a Monday night
and on Wednesday night had three floorsand you know, and so that reality
struck her and so with that kindof made it more more real as well.
But it's interesting you bring up soccerbecause the moment that where I thought,
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holy crab, okay, this iswe probably need to take action was
when they canceled the NBA season becauseand that was so visceral for everyone,
and I talked to other other folksabout this, and it was the same
with them. It was the canceling. It was the cancelation of the NBA
season because of that revenue stream andthose things that occur. You started thinking,
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wait, if those owners are willingto give up that kind of revenue
then for safety, then this isthis is bigger than what we thought.
And it just started to following likedominoes. I mean yet MLS you know,
you know, they just started stopping. And so now I kind of
applaud the professional sports because they reallywalked people up to that because we're such
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rapid fans of that, and whenthat stopped it, that actually made it
real or a lot of people.So it's it's, um, it's strange
the uh, you know, twoand a half the things you were doing
two and a half months ago seemedyou know, two and a half years
ago. But not just beliegue orthat point. But it's just interesting when
you brought up the soccer thing.And I do think we'll get back to
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it'll be a when I say,a new normal, and that will only
last for a period of time becausethe other thing that I can tell you
about this mark Partnel. That's asmuch as I've thought about this UM and
this is not this issarily true foreverybody. I'm just looking at it from
a you know, thirty thousand footperspective. UM number one, we don't
need to underestimate the um the ingenuityof the uh the American people for one
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thing. UH number two, UMpeople from what I have in my career.
And I'm not saying I'm some wisesage on with anything, but when
you know, I've dealt with thethree major collapses in the financial system for
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that were temporary, never one thatwas artificially manufactured. The and I saw
the damage that was going to bedone. But the thing about something like
that is the common thread between allof those is that people let me,
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let me try to get my thoughtstogether. Here. We're really really good
at forgetting painful events. So dependingon how long they are, like the
two thousand and eight, collapse ofthe financial system that took us, you
know, about eight years to getthrough back in two thousand and two thousand
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and one, two thousand and two, and corporate fraud and things that caused
tech bubble and things like that causeda recession, job massive job laws.
It took a few years to getpast that. It seems to be that
the degree of time that it takesfor people to go through this process is
about the time it takes also fora recovery. Now this is you know,
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so when you get back to anew normal, what I mean by
that is the new normal is goingto be when you go to a restaurant
and you see ten people in thereinstead of fifty. That will be different.
But we gradually start ramping that up, and by the time, even
if it takes till January, whenthings are up and running or whatever the
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case may be, we will rapidlyforget sort of what it was. We'll
always have this point in our inour of time that we will revert back
to and people talk about and youwill find actually that there will be some
good that came from it, simplyjust because of you know, people are
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spending time with their families now thatthey didn't before. And we're more innovative
than we did before. We've embracedtechnology, especially the older Americans. There's
a lot of things that will comeout and there will be good for good
from it, and um, andwe will. We are so ready as
a country. Um. And you'rein a state as well that's not necessarily
a shelter in place, but it'slittle bit more open even than Arkansas.
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At this point, Um, peopleare are so ready to get back to
whatever, if it's normal, newnormal, whatever it may be. They're
just so ready to get back toit that they're going to fight to get
back to it. Yeah. Doesthat? Does that make sense? Um,
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They're ready to get They're ready toget back some simbilance of their life
back together and make it feel morenormal again. So and that's what I
and that's what I mean. Andyou'll, I think we'll be surprised at
how how quickly that actually happens.I'm pretty optimistic as I've studied this study
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take it absolutely, it's bring itdown to our personal view. Let's bring
it down to us, our familiesand our kiddos. So, yeah,
talk to me about the situation andthe naulty household. How is it been
for you for the last what isit a month and a half now at
you up on two months? Yeah? Well again, I've been working every
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day. So what's different is youknow the kids are home. Obviously they
dismissed schools in Arkansas really early,and so it's she's kept them on a
good routine where they're doing their packetsand and things like that. I forgot
what that term is that you educatorscall it h some ami or something like
that. Anyway, doing their packetsand they will usually finish them in a
couple of days so they can justhave their the rest of their time.
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But we just recently really started kindof just going going for drives and doing
things like that. But you know, so but I do my normal work
day, um, just everything aboutvia phone. I've done some at home.
So so we've been spending a lotof time together. The kids haven't
been really that stir crazy because youknow, and again in Arkansas, being
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in a rural area, we tendto be socially distanced, not on purpose,
but we do, you know,most of the congregation this stuff we
have, right, so most ofthe congregating we do are at sporting events
in church. So those those thingsthat were missing, so that that that
human component has just been able tohug and touch and you know, you
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know, shake hands, and thoseare really tough especially in with our with
in our culture. Um. Thetoughest thing is obviously we haven't seen well
until until this past couple of dayswhere I said script, I'm over it.
Uh not totally. I'm not throwingcaution to the wind, but I
mean I went and saw Emily andLexey because I have not seen them in
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a month and a half. AndEmily, you know, it's pregnant and
we have not seen her. We'remissing that entire thing. So you know,
so it's been but the good.The thing as far as as it
relates to T n D, Ican tell you this that um hold on,
just say yeah, um, asfar as it relates to T one
D. The thing that I've seenis it's been easier actually to manage because
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annistoncyre constantly and there's not really anyplace to go, and her her her
numbers have been really really good.So you know, we got we can
see stress maybe kicking in a littlebit, even though they might not feel
stressed. You can just kind offeel it, you know. And and
the hormone thing is obviously still goingon. But what we've noticed is that
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her projected A one C has gonefrom six point one, which is what
it was. She was supposed tohave her appointment actually tomorrow, but three
months ago at six point one,we're at five point four. Right now,
because just just constantly monitoring it andnot just over not in an overbearing
manner. It's just you know,it's just let's just hear with them all
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day long. And they're eating healthy. They we're teaching them to cook.
Im if you saw on Facebook.But Leslie's had them plant a garden.
She's taught him how to plant agarden. She's uh, they've each now
taken a different night, so acouple of times a week they tag will
cook, Aniston will cook. Sinceshe's teaching them those things. UM,
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and of course and and just tryingto stay healthy and things. Because the
information that we really understood as faras T N d UM is that the
folks that were being you know,for it's what you say is when they
throw out, hey, diabetes,you're immune compromised that yes, and no,
UM, if you have if youmaintain a normal blood blue blood BG,
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if you normal uh, good night. If you maintain good blood sugars,
you have really good management of that, you're not immune compromised. UM.
Now, it can have a virusI have obviously can have an effect
on you. UM. But evenwith that, uh, you know,
it's if the if your blood sugarsare normal and you've been managing it,
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you have a much higher success ofnot having a negative outcome. Um,
it's the ones, it's the Tone D that is not managed to well
that are they're having dire effects.So yeah, you know, and so
that's that's from the Adah for forjuveniles. Uh, that is from j
D r F. It's it's theones who's blow that is. It's the
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ones with the A one cs thatare that are too high, ones that
have consistently have struggle with the blowsugars, the one they are non compliant,
they're really urging compliance because that's theones that it can have a very
negative effect on. So our goalis just to keep her A one C
is lowest possible blow sugars in rangebecause that lowers the threat of anything if
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she did become infected. That lowersthe h a negative outcome. Yeah,
it's interesting what you were saying about. Obviously, with the kids being here,
you know you can kind of beon top of them and everything.
Um, that has the potential callsto be a double a sword because you
know you're sort of you're right thereand and I can kind of be on
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some of the number, maybe alittle too much, not not necessarily,
but any of us, all ofus. So I think we've had to
be very mindful of that. OfIn fact, Ella's here constantly rather than
being you know, on her aboutit constantly. Winstead, we're trying to
do what I think you're trying todo with Anna, which is empower them,
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begin shifting the responsibility small are notyou know, the responsibility in its
entirety, but responsibility small are overto them, you know, asking questions
rather than telling, you know,encouraging them to be inquisitive and be proactive
as opposed to you know, jumpingall over them when the alarm goes off,
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you know, just just trying totake this opportunity to model right,
to show them what they should bethinking in terms of or how not what
they should be thinking, but howthey should be thinking about their number,
and how they should be attacking itproactively, and how to do that in
a way that um feels natural andnot exhausting, which I think is the
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challenge probably for any t one D. You and I aren't t one D.
So we can only speculate based uponwhat we see in our homes every
day. But you know, Iunderstand it can get very exhausting, it
can be very mentally taxing. Andso how do you encourage someone with T
one D to stay on top oftheir number and to maintain a safe and
healthy blood sugar level UM and nothave it be you know, constant exercise
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in watching the number. So we'vebeen trying to develop those skills in her.
What's interesting is that Ethan is theone who's really interested in cooking.
In fact, kimball and air fryeryesterday. Oh so you know he wants
to air fright everything. So Ican't. Yeah, I can't leave my
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tennis shoes in the kitchen anymore,just in case they end up in the
air fryer. M but l hasno interest in But what's interesting is UM,
when they're home, I think,like all of us again, there's
this you know, if you're boredor your listless, or you're at a
loose end, there's there's the senseof you know, you kind of feel
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about space with food, right,Yeah, I'm gonna go grab a cob
and cookies, gonna go, graba soda. I'm gonna go. And
so that's a really interesting thing tobalance out as well, because of course,
when they're at school, they can'tdo either in class focused hopefully listening
right, engaging with their teacher andwith their classmates, or they're at recess
and they're running around doing their thing. So it's when they have this much
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time on their hands, it doesmake for an interesting challenge. Um And
I like the way you guys haveattacked that. I like the fact that
you know, educate them on andhaving a garden, which is something that
now we're finally in our house.Allen. I don't recommend congratulations to yeah,
that's right. I don't recommend movingduring a pandemic, but it doesn't
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it is at least a good distractor. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
exactly. Now you know, we'regonna do that. We're gonna have like
a little vegetable patch and see ifwe get the kids involved in that.
I don't know if I was evergoing to take the whole cooking thing like
kind of does. I'm not surethat will ever happened. We'll see,
yeah, we'll see. Well,you know, it's really just because there's
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some some bordom because there's nothing todo. Um And you know, in
South Arkansas again, population five aroundfive hundred. We just that there's not
a lot of activities, and we'reon the border with Louisiana and now and
and as soon as you jump theline, there's more prevalence of the of
it. So you know, sowe really tried to stay in our area.
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Uh for a month and a half. I never went eight mile past
ten miles south or or thirty milesnorth of my home, which I didn't
realize, and and no more thanfour or five miles east or west,
which was very hot. And itjust didn't because I've been so busy with
work and trying to help others seethe that this is gonna we're gonna get
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through it, we're gonna be okayument eventually, and you know, so
it just, uh it didn't dawnon me that we haven't done that.
So I started really see two weeksago, UH told Leslie every weekend,
I'm going to surprise you what we'regoing somewhere. So the state parks are
closed and and things like that.Now they're slowly course opening, but but
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as of today, um, youknow, they're they're they're pretty much open.
But the trails have always been open. So we just started doing nature
trails and and and doing those sortsof things, and it was just amazing,
just that it's no longer where you'redriving. You know. Maybe I'll
give you example. Yesterday we drovetwo and a half hours uh and to
a uh to where they have somesome rapids right at the foothills of the
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of the Washington Mountains, and itwas it was just beautiful and and it
it's odd because if we were saying, hey, we're gonna go do this.
We're gonna go up here to thiscertain state park and it's gonna take
two and a half hours to getthere, two and a half hours back,
you know, the drudgery will begoing there and getting back, and
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you'd want to spend the day andspend your time because of the drive.
But this time we went up,we stayed for about an hour, turn
around, it came back, andto them, it's not it's just getting
out of the house. And soit wasn't the destination. It was actually
the adventure of just going somewhere thatthey haven't seen before, enjoying it for
a little bit, and then comingback and then going about our day.
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You know, I don't know,it's weird, you know, as I
can relate in tidy because we've beendoing you know, they do their school
work. And then Ethan and Iactually, finally enough, right before kind
of the lockdown happened, Ethan andI had taken our first golf lesson and
so I actually purchased a used clubfrom the store and yet some golf balls
and whatnot. So actually, hereand I have been out in the odd
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I can go fours around, andElla and I have been out in the
yard practicing soccer. A soccer teamdo some stuff online and they have a
curriculum posted. But outside of that, um, oh, and Ella and
I have I have been teaching Ellahow to play chess. So that's been
fun. That's actually no oh cool. Yeah, yeah, it's but outsided
that it's been it's kind of thesame routine. It's groundhog day, right,
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um, and so today was thefirst day. Yeah, right,
absolutely, so today was the firstday, she said. I said a
few days ago, said, ofthe guys, this weekend, we're going
to find a nearby trail and we'rejust going to go out right, change
of scenery, fresh air. We'regoing to do it safely. We're gonna
make sure that you know, ifwe show up and there's a bunch of
cars there and there's a whole bunchof people milling around, we're going home,
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right, We're not getting in themiddle of that mess. But if
we show up and it's wide openspace and we can get out and walk
and you know, taking because obviouslythis is all new to us, this
area, and taking something we haven'tseen before, let's do it. And
we grab the dog today and tookoff and found this place with a lake
and some trees and a couple oftrails, and it was you know,
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it comes back to what we weresaying at the beginning of the pole,
right, not taking things for granted. We were laid out on the grass
and the dog was just flopped out, just panting away, and the kids
were chit chatting, and they justcollected some sea shirt and not seashells,
I guess lake shells, but littlemollusc type things offer the shadows. And
they were just sat there kind ofwiping the dirt off and showing each other
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there, you know, their theirtreasures, and it was just temperature was
perfect, and I was just Iwas just laying there thinking this is great.
I mean, life is good.Life isn't good, it's kind of
right now this moment, this momentis good, and boyd we need it,
you know, so I can relate. Well, No, you're exactly
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right. That's the thing, becauseyou know, three months ago, if
we would have done that, theywould have been bored out of their minds.
But they're they're enjoying it. Imean they're picking up picking up sticks,
and Tag wants to whittle something oryou know, it's I mean literally
he brought us pocket knife so hecan whittle something. It's and that's what
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my point is to folks, tofolks, you know, if and I'll
try not to get to preach youor anything, but honestly, I think
there will be a point in timewhere a few years from now we will
look back on this as a veryspecial time. I do not diminish the
loss of life. It probably willcontinue to be many more, many more,
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and and not to negate any ofthat. It's terrible that. The
thing is is that there was atremendous loss of life during War two.
There was a tremendous loss of lifeobviously in the Spanish flu, but even
then, those those people that lookback on those times that that that made
it through. You know, theydidn't take certain things for granted. And
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I think that there there will bea certain amounts for not everyone, but
a certain amount of fondness when youlook back on this period of time,
because the kids that we don't it'shard for us to put our minds into
the mindset of children. They willlook back on this as mom and dapper
home. They weren't rushing around.Life slowed down. I mean, if
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if you realize how frantic our pacewas, and that's why now every day
seems like a week because we wererunning a rat race and this and you
were forced to slow down. Ifnothing else, this slowed people down and
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made them realize forcefully what was wecall it essential business. We were honestly
the things that you that you thatyou order now that you buy, now
that you look at they're considered.You really realize what was important, what
was essential to you? What thingswere really wasteful? What things don't that
Are there things that you were doingthree months ago that you don't miss,
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Well, they weren't really important,but did they take up your time?
And what things are you really missing? And they're essential? So it helps
people to find out. If youdidn't have priorities before, write down everything
that you are absolutely missing, andthey will become priorities. I miss being
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able to see my friends face toface, and I pray that I'll never
take that for granted again. Imiss my grown up kids. You see
what I'm saying without getting too sappy. There are many things that I think
that we'll look back on this pointin time and say, you know,
there was a lot of growth there, and we made it to the other
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to endovervisit coming up here shortly.Ella had hers about a week or so
ago, and of course it wasa telemed right, it was doing everything
I guess through Zoom or not Zoomwhatever software the doctors are using, so
I'm sure it's more secure than zoom. So that was kind of an interesting
experience for you guys. Is thatwhat you guys are gonna be doing without
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a Well, uh, she's gothers tomorrow and I don't know if we're
gonna do it or not, rightis it woman? Is it gonna be
telling? Is it gonna be overthe computer? Yeah? Well, I
think because of the just the thethere was a different response rate, as
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we know, without getting to withoutgetting into the weeds on that, there's
different response rates for different states.And our endo is in Louisiana. So
if no one has been watching thenews, Lousiana got in a little bit
of trouble. I mean they had, they had a tough time, right,
So some some parts of the statejust did not take it as seriously
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as others. And not knocking Louisianabecause the people I know personally absolutely took
it seriously. The thing is itdid cause an upset in the scheduling portion
of that, right, so nowthat people have embraced things because again I
live in in a ruled area,so they've embraced things like tell medicine.
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The deal is is that a lotof us didn't have the We could have
Tell the medicine all we want,but you can't get a cell phone signal
much less Wi Fi, right,So that but that's now being so those
are things that other people in biggerareas take for granted. I mean,
imagine trying to do tele medicine whenyou can't get a cell phone signal.
Okay, so we are just nowgetting to a place where well I don't
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know yet because again it's got it'sgotten rescheduled. So that's sort of my
point. We've used tell the Medicinefor with tag okay, because he had
this rash come up with Anniston's willIt Tell themed probably, but the thing
also our endos. She's back,she's her clinics back open. But she's
also uh ramped up testings where she'sinviting I mean the family, can we
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can go and get diagnostic testing andand a body testing at the same time
for the whole family. So she'soffering that service. So I don't know
if we may delay it and thenall go as a family and get tested
just for that peace of mind.So we're not sure exactly how we're going
to handle that yet, but tellthem edicine is a big deal. And
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I think that that is something thatagain if we wouldn't have gotten to this
going through this. That's another positivepositive thing that's come through this is tell
them medicine, because imagine not havinga word bout going to the doctor.
Now you can just do it overthe You just do it like you should
have always been able to do itand not have to go and visit the
doctor, put yourself at rich forinfection of someone that might be might be
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ill. So I don't know ifit's gonna tell medicine or not, but
uh, I'm you know, we'llwe'll cross that bridge when we get to
it. But for right now,the scheduling has been off simply because of
the fact that Louisiana had to shutdown some of those things because that was
not necessarily a sin even though itwas obviously it's a innercnologist, but your
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your hospitals and things like that wereconsidered essential. So but when you have
a private clinic, a lot ofthose things. You know, some some
are central, some are not,but most places avoided it and so and
we were unfortunately that caught in thatkind of situation where we do have clinics
and things in Arkansas that were open, but but Louisiana a lot of those
things were shut down were or shutdown or either the patients just wouldn't go.
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And that's I would encourage people that, look, you know, do
not skip your business because they havedone everything they can to try to prepare
to keep you safe. Um,that's just my personal opinion. But yeah,
I'll say I'll I'll give you anupdate on that. Yeah, and
I'd be interested to here because itwas definitely it was an interesting experience,
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and you're right, it did maybethink why why isn't this Why isn't this
the norm? Like I'm okay,going on site maybe once or twice a
year so the doctor can actually eyeballand you know, you have that personal
human interaction kind of in the sameroom. But is it really necessary for
every visit? I mean, thisseems like it would be a more efficient
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an effective way to conduct those particularappointments. But speaking of silver linings as
well, and I can't let yougo without. We haven't had a chance
to talk about some of the silverlinings into in regards to some of the
large players in the insulin market andsome of their response to the COVID situation.
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Eli Lily, of course, butI think being the first to announce
lowering, significantly lowering insulin costs toensure that people impacted financially during this this
this challenging time could get access toessential medicine. I think it was.
It was not a no disc andthen come out afterwards and they have some
kind of a program. Actually,I think all of them at this point
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they have some kind of a programgoing on. And we're seeing incredible shift
in a marketplace that for a verylong time has been entirely immobile, has
been resistant to the pressures that havebeen placed on it. So I'm curious
what's your thoughts about that, anddo you feel like this is something that
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is going to do you think there'sshifts are going to remain beyond the coronavirus
or you think these companies are goingto revert to type once the pandemic has
passed. Now, I think thatthat ship has sailed. This was something
that there was so much pressure onit. But most most corporations, obviously
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for profit corporations, are so resistantto change and money has to be made.
But we all know the deal.We know what the deal was with
insulin and Eli Lily. I applaudthem because they kind of they broke They
kind of broke the dam on thatone. And if you were in competition
with Eli Lily, you'd better havestepped up within within days or you were
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going because it's and that's the thingabout capitalism. You if you if you
continue to try to sell insolent atthree hundred and fifty dollars of all,
you were going to lose business.So Lily ste Lily stepping up. I
applaud them because they changed things forUH, for the foreseeable future. I
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don't see it going back, UMsimple because it was it's the right thing
for them to do. It's beenthe right thing for them to do,
but it but it's sad that ittook something like a pandemic to make them
do it. Yeah, but I'mglad they did. UH, and you
forced that on to other people.And it's the same way when you start
open just like telemedicine, UM oneof my staff members. She did her
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first tele medicine appointment. She hasum u rmature authortis. She talked to
some gentleman from some other part ofthe country. And you you're I mean,
you're jumping state lines talking to adoctor that's not licensed in your state.
But he was able to. Butbut it's a simple follow up.
Uh, we had to go toyour doctor just to get a prescription refilled,
which was uh, ironically enough,hydrosty larkin. But she that's what
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she has to have because here's shehad. She has room told authritis and
that's what it was for. That'sthe labeled use for it. But in
any case, not to go there. Just my point, my point is
is that but so so my right. So my point is you know,
why wasn't a why wasn't it alreadyliked that? But again and again that
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you opening opening up state lines anddoing those things, it breached competition.
You break competition, you lower prices, and I think this will for a
silver lining. You will see thisis my personal opinion. I think that
you will see a continuation of thisbecause the now the consumer will demand it.
There are so many regulations that gotslashed when you UM usually throw on
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a new regulation, it's very hardto give it and get it off when
you when you UM eliminate a regulation, it's very difficult to get it put
by. So the cutting of regulationis a silver lining in all sorts of
what the medicine the way they're doingwith the FDA. Can you imagine now
the opportunities that companies will have oncewe get on the other side of this.
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Forget coronavirus, what are the whatare going to be the rapidity now
or the acceleration of treatments for typeone diabetics because the FDA no longer has
so much bureaucracy and red tape,right, Yeah, So it opens the
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door cancer treatments, to type onediabetes treatments, all these other chronic diseases.
You just opened the door for companiesto go in universities, just to
go in where private and public canjoin together and accelerate treatments, cures,
vaccinations, you name it. Thiscould be one of the best things that
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ever happened to to the to themedical system in the United States of America.
So, yeah, it is aI think it will continue. I
think it'll be forced to continue justbecause of the public demand. And I
do want to add one thing tothat, because it's hard to know exactly
because there's so much information that comesout, and again you don't if you're
getting all your information from the newscycle, I would just say stop doing
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that. You really need new doresearch on ron because go to the places
that don't have a dog in thefight, the ones that aren't average,
that don't rely on advertising. Goto your the resources like your endocrinologists.
Go to the foundations or associations thatwould that provide this information. And I'll
tell you JDRF if you go toUH. If you go to JDRF dot
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org forward slash cost Costs, theywill have the listing of every UM UH
medical diabetic supplier and insulin producer,UM and technology maker. They've got a
list of every company that is nowlowered prices or made changes. Go to
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that and they will give you youyou'll find almost every resource for your type
one diabetic kid that you will needto save you money. So take advantage
of that. UM. So again, that's that's JR jd RF dot org
Forward slash cost c OSTs. Yeah, good advice. Absolutely, um what'
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you're paying me for? So weuh, well, I feel like we've
really really grazed conversation around our familiesand what's gone on in our homes.
And yet we've talked forty five minuteshere. But there was so much for
us to get our teeth into youbecause you and I hadn't talked in a
while. Obviously, a lot's happened, a lots happened in the global landscape,
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a lot's happened here in our countryor here in the US, say
our country. It's not yet mycountry, not yet, maybe one of
these days. But anyway, butwe know we had talked a little bit,
or at least I think through talkingwe've I think we've kind of flushed
out some of the differences right betweenliving in a big city and living in
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a rural setting. And I definitelywant to talk more about the impact on
our families, and particularly as we'reon the back side of this, is
we're starting to come out of thisnow, what does that look like and
how our families responding to that.So I think we'll have the chance to
do that because I want to letour listeners know that our next episode is
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actually going to be our first everDad's Panel so Alan, unfortunately it wasn't
able to join us for that one. We've already recorded it, but we
have a couple of other great dads, dads a T one D kiddos who
will be joining myself just to kindof talk about their perspectives of being the
dad of a T one D.And I think we recorded that at the
very beginning actually of quarantine, soit'll be kind of interesting to see what
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we were what we were saying rightthere. We haven't a chance to get
that one out because of the stuffwe've been doing with Stacey Simms, Alan
and me wanting to get those outwhile they were timely. It's meant that,
you know, this prerecorded show isn'tgoing to come out now. I
think they'd be like, almost toomuch. We recorded it, so that
would be the next show that comesout. It's gonna be extremely are because
yeah, yeah, well because lifechange has changed so much, because exactly
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no, I was just gonna staybecause it's because the things that you wrote,
post that you made, things thatyou said to people and you and
you look back on those, you'relike, God, I was susting here
yet I didn't know anything, youknow, because we didn't know, we
really didn't know, and it's andit's odd. Yeah, so that'll be
interesting to listen to. And yeah, and I can't wait to catch you
(47:52):
up on the back side be ableto look back on this. Yeah,
well that showed that the Dat panelI guess will drop. This show folks
are listening to now obviously is outon May fifteenth. I guess the dad
panel will dropped June fifteenth. Ifeel bad because actually it'd be almost three
months since I recorded there by then. But I feel bad because those guys
came on the show and it wasa great episode, and I'm anxious to
get this out so they can hearit and share it with their friends.
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So that will come out of Junefifteenth. So if we keep our monthly
schedule, and I knew and Iwon't do another show like this until or
our listeners won't hear it until Julyfifteenth, by which point, god willing
will be over the worst or atleast be able to see some really significant
light at the end of the tunnel, and it'll be fun to be able
to talk about that and how that'simpacting our families and what that looks like.
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Yeah, that sounds good. Ohman, it was great talking to
you. You too, Man,you too. It's you know, whenever
we whenever we get on Mike,can we talk and just have these kind
of rambling conversations. It just it'sfunny. It always. It reminds me.
It reminds me of a very distinctmoment. It reminds me of being
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in my car one of our phoneconversations with you before this podcast. You
know, when this podcast was justa twinkle in our mother's eye. And
I remember having a conversation with you, and I remember pulling up behind our
Whole Foods and parking up and justbecause I wanted to focus and I want
to drive and talk, it wasthe conversation was kind of intense, and
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I remember pulling up and talking andI remember talking for I don't know ages,
it was forty five minutes to anhour. And that was the moment
where, you know, I'm sureif you said it or I said it,
but there was kind of a consensusthat hey, it's what I made
a good podcast. And that wasthe moment that Dad was born. And
so whenever I get back on Mikewith you and we have these rambling conversations
and you know, they're very unstructured, but it's just it's just fine.
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It's just really enjoy to get onhere and talk with you. And even
when we don't go deep into theweeds on a T one D topic as
we you know we really haven't today, even then, just to get on
and talk. And I think ourlisteners enjoy hearing a couple of friends,
you know, just talk about whatthey're dealing with. And you know,
we talk about T one D inbit part on these episodes where we're not
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focused on a particular topic, buteven just that, even just getting on
and talking, I think it's Icertainly enjoy it, and I hope our
listeners get something from it too.Yeah, I believe they do. It
goes to big world around. There'sa lot of life that's not Type one
diabetic, even though you have one, they're lives in your household, so
yep, there's a lot goes intoit, and I'm sure they appreciate that
good stuff. All right, myfriend, Well it's been fun. Let
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me go ahead and wrap this up. Thanks for listening to Dad's and diabetes
folks. As you well know bynow, Alan and I are Dad's of
T one d kiddos on this funkylittle podcast, trying to figure things out
as you all are. We reallyappreciate you doing it. Guys, stay
safe, wash your hands, keepyourself with distance, but get out and
enjoy a park. If you cando it safely, get out and enjoy
(50:52):
nature, get some fresh air,change your surroundings. It will help with
the stir craziness that you might befeeling. But above all ours do stay
safe and say well and take careof those around you. And Alan and
I were award speaking to you soon. Good fund, Alan, take calm,
enjoyed a brother. You'll be good.
I just want to remind you,guys, this is just me and Mark
telling stories and that nothing that wesay here is intended to be medical a
basis is strictly from our point ofview as two dads telling the stories of
our T one D kiddos. Wealso want our listeners to know that we
try to maintain a perspective, recognizingthem whatever Alan and I or our families
are dealing with, it doesn't amountto a hill of beans compared to that
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which our daughters or anyone diagnosed withtype one diabetes has to contend with on
a day to day basis. We'redoing good. Ringer and sink. That's
(01:03):
great. Welcome to Dad's and Diabets. Just two dads and T one D
kiddos on a podcast, back togetheragain, finally trying to figure it all
out. I'm Mark, I'm Alanmy friend. Oh to do to say?
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That's all you have to do?It's literally I did. Oh you
didn't hear me? I did?I said, I'm out, Okay,
I did. There it's just abad uh yeah, I said, And
I'm I'm Alan. That's all Iknow to saying, that's that's what you
told me to say. I did, but I really did. I really
did say it. It's kind ofkind of weird. We get a little
(01:49):
I feel like we bring rust.I haven't been doing much podcast I guess
I do, was Stacy sims Is, though, about the only thing I've
done. We've done a couple ofFacebook live things with me and me and
Chase out for smart Owl Famous,but that's about it. It's been,
you know, just farting around withthat. But yeah, how are you
up? Been doing? Good man? Good Well. The whole purpose of
(02:13):
them trying to get this recording donetoday is because you and I we kind
of realized that we haven't recorded fora while. Ordinarily, we don't record
in the summer anyway. We giveourselves a break off usually a couple of
months, spend time with family,recharge our batteries, all of that good
stuff. But of course, becauseof everything that went down here over the
(02:35):
last couple of months, and alsosome pressures from work for both of us,
you know, we took the decisionto move to a once a month
schedule for the time being. Andkind of the confluence of all that,
the once a month schedule, thecrazy craziness with Corona and everything else,
means that, yeah, you andI just we just haven't gotten together.
Now. Regular listeners will know thatI did a group session with Stacy Simms
(02:59):
and some other podcasts and T oneD podcasts and that was really fun.
And I dropped that episode on Aprilthe fourteenth, and then today actually I
dropped Alan's episode. Alan did anothersession that Stacy Simms did with some other
T one D podcasters. So youhave gotten to hear from this listeners,
but not together. So here weare and that was that was fun though
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to do that, Yeah, Icould, yeah, you know, and
I was looking forward to doing thisuh with you to this evening for a
little bit. And you know thething when that invitation from Stacy, and
I was even hesitant to do thatbecause the only thing just been on my
mind is everything that's going on,which is I think pretty much every same
(03:44):
with everybody. I mean, everybodykind of in the same boat obviously,
And but it was I found myselfjust really needing that it was. It's
kind of therapeutic and stuff. Soyeah, I really enjoyed it, and
we talked about more stuff than justronavirus. I don't think we've mentioned it
a whole lot. It's just sopervasive and everything that you see twenty four
(04:05):
seven. So, and then myjob and my job as a financial advisorus
all, you know, talking withclients all day about it, you know.
So it's it's kind of nice totalk with you, and you know,
I don't know, just just shootthe breeze with you. Yeah,
great to talk to you. Imean, I've really missed talking to you.
(04:26):
I really have. I know youand I We've had a couple of
very brief phone conversations and we texta lot, but it's not the same.
It's not the same as getting aroundthe mic. But anyway, before
we launch into what we've been upto in our respective households, and I
quite literally mean that, because Idon't think either of us have left them
very much. I know that anxiousyou'll be anxious as I am. Alan
(04:46):
to say that we hope all ofour listeners and their families are safe and
well and are following government guidelines andstaying home and social distancing and all of
the things that were being instructed todo to this it's virus. Uh,
well, pass on by. I'mnot sure you're gonna pass on by,
but at least help us to youknow, stay safe and healthy and wow
(05:12):
and sure so um yeah, Ihope a lot of listeners, uh are
are in good shape certainly. Yeah, yep, you're sitting up exactly right.
And we just hope everybody's safe andsafe and do onthing need to do
and we'll get do it. We'llget do it soon. It'll be you
know, we'll lock Trump said it'llit'll just wash on through. So he's
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just a couple of months off.But I had to thart, Yeah,
but no, but everybody, Ithink everybody's doing a great job. I
think everybody's doing doing the best theycan, you know, at a local
level, just our families, youknow, I mean this is you through
everybody for a loop. I meangood grief. I mean you know when
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you when just uh just quite ajust quick aside, you know, just
the fact of you know, seeingyour friends and saying, you know,
like I was, I was talkingto on the phone to uh, Jordan
and Chase, a couple of buddiesof mine, that the last time I
really went anywhere was we we wentdown and just had lunch um at in
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Shreveport, and it wasn't you know. A week later, we were kind
of not lockdown. Arkansas isn't ina lockdown position, but everybody's just still
socially distanced. But I haven't physicallybeen in their vicinity in over a month
and a half. And you realize, you know, we just did that
and just took it totally for granted. And that's one thing I think I'll
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get out of this, so Iwon't taking anything like that for granted again
too, That's for sure. Yeah, you know too, it seems it
seems like twenty years ago that yougot to go and just you know,
take your wife out to eat,eat, or just do any stuff like
that. Is weird. Every everyday seems like a week a couple of
things, especially in regass. Youknow, be trying to struggle into round
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my sentence there and end up bysaying passing by when the virus passes up,
and I'm just I don't know howto close that sentence out, because
the reality is nothing returns to anysemblance of normal quite frankly, until there's
a vaccine. Kim and I weretalking about this last night, and you
know, we can we can doall of the social distancing and the hand
washing and staying home as much aswe can, and of course that mitigates,
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that makes things better. But atthe end of the day, people
are going to be and this isn'teverybody I recognize, but people are going
to be reticent, particularly those whoare already know immune compromised to putting themselves
into those typical social situations. Youknow, going to a really popular restaurant
that's going to be shoulder to shoulder, or you know, going to a
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ball game, or you know,going out to the movies. You know,
going to a cinema or the openingnight or the first week of a
big movie when you know, youknow, the the movie house is going
to be full. It's it's it'sgoing to make people nervous, and there
will be a vACC see and hopefullysooner rather than later. But and then
to what you were saying, aswell, you're absolutely right, alan you
certainly you know, we certainly takena step back and realize, you know,
(08:11):
the little things you you will nolonger take for granted. I mean
Ellen and I were talking about thefact that we were in Dallas like a
couple of three days before things reallywent to hall and a handbasket. I
mean, things were already on thebubble, you know, come into a
boil. And a couple of threedays before that, we were in Dallas
to go watch the US women's nationalteam play in the She Beliefs Cup,
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and also the Lionesses were there fromEngland and Spain and Japan as well.
So we went went there and watchedtwo games back to back and had a
great old time and we're in astadium full of people, and you know,
it was fantastic. And within acouple of days, you know,
we had ended up seeing the lastprofessional soccer game that had taken place on
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US soil. And it's crazy tothink that, you know, and I
think about the next one that mighthappen. I think about Austin FC,
and you know it's it's an auguralMLS season, which is supposed to be
next February March. What will thatlook like? You know, it'll be
a new normal. I mean,and I have start well and playing are
we playing COVID bingo here? Hehas well unprecedented who has disaffectant? Well,
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you know, just I think alot of just comes from my job
of what really occurred to me?Um excuse me? You know, when
it first started. It's really ait's a rapid uh progression through the stages
of grief. Honestly, anything traumaticthat you go through, and it uh,
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life kind of got turned upside down, and it's uh the first thing
you want to do is to regaincontrol, and that's something you can't control.
And so the anxiety ramps up,and everybody reached their acceptance kind of
appear at different times. And youknow the thing is, you know,
I locked down my office personally reallyquickly due to to Anniston. I just
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want to make sure that nothing happenedwhere someone you know, I brought it
in or whatever, and I broughtthat home to her. So, you
know, so I went to umthat place in my mind a lot faster
UM. And but when I thething that I'm considered an essential service being
in the financial services industry, andwhat I've found though is um over time,
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really but just in a couple ofweeks, I found myself being a
lot more optimistic, even as Isaw just horrific numbers medically and financially come
through. The new normal that I'mreferring to is that, you know,
the more I have to explain itto people and give my point of view,
the more optimistic I am simply becauseof what I see, um on
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a day to day basis, fromsmall business owners, um on up the
chain and you know so and it'sreally hard to get real good information simply
because of you know, it's anelection year and things are spun and and
people just want facts and and it'sreally difficult to do that because everything is
shaded um or painted with uh withwith with a spin. But I guess
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my, you know, what Ilook at is just the boots on the
ground and the people that I talkedto. My niece was a my new
and niece is uh she's a Ithink about to finish her quarantine. Uh
she was. She's an r Nat auctioners in New Orleans. UM and
uh, you know she used yourtypical millennials. She didn't take it seriously
and uh she finally worked her firstshift when they started getting impatience and by
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you know, they had I thinka wing they had to wind up opening
up in one of the auctioner's hospitalsand by that was on a Monday night
and on Wednesday night had three floorsand you know, and so that reality
struck her and so with that kindof made it more more real as well.
But it's interesting you bring up soccerbecause the moment that where I thought,
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holy crab, okay, this iswe probably need to take action was
when they canceled the NBA season becauseand that was so visceral for everyone,
and I talked to other other folksabout this, and it was the same
with them. It was the canceling. It was the cancelation of the NBA
season because of that revenue stream andthose things that occur. You started thinking,
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wait, if those owners are willingto give up that kind of revenue
then for safety, then this isthis is bigger than what we thought.
And it just started to following likedominoes. I mean yet MLS you know,
you know, they just started stopping. And so now I kind of
applaud the professional sports because they reallywalked people up to that because we're such
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rapid fans of that, and whenthat stopped it, that actually made it
real or a lot of people.So it's it's, um, it's strange
the uh, you know, twoand a half the things you were doing
two and a half months ago seemedyou know, two and a half years
ago. But not just beliegue orthat point. But it's just interesting when
you brought up the soccer thing.And I do think we'll get back to
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it'll be a when I say,a new normal, and that will only
last for a period of time becausethe other thing that I can tell you
about this mark Partnel. That's asmuch as I've thought about this UM and
this is not this issarily true foreverybody. I'm just looking at it from
a you know, thirty thousand footperspective. UM number one, we don't
need to underestimate the um the ingenuityof the uh the American people for one
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thing. UH number two, UMpeople from what I have in my career.
And I'm not saying I'm some wisesage on with anything, but when
you know, I've dealt with thethree major collapses in the financial system for
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that were temporary, never one thatwas artificially manufactured. The and I saw
the damage that was going to bedone. But the thing about something like
that is the common thread between allof those is that people let me,
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let me try to get my thoughtstogether. Here. We're really really good
at forgetting painful events. So dependingon how long they are, like the
two thousand and eight, collapse ofthe financial system that took us, you
know, about eight years to getthrough back in two thousand and two thousand
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and one, two thousand and two, and corporate fraud and things that caused
tech bubble and things like that causeda recession, job massive job laws.
It took a few years to getpast that. It seems to be that
the degree of time that it takesfor people to go through this process is
about the time it takes also fora recovery. Now this is you know,
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so when you get back to anew normal, what I mean by
that is the new normal is goingto be when you go to a restaurant
and you see ten people in thereinstead of fifty. That will be different.
But we gradually start ramping that up, and by the time, even
if it takes till January, whenthings are up and running or whatever the
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case may be, we will rapidlyforget sort of what it was. We'll
always have this point in our inour of time that we will revert back
to and people talk about and youwill find actually that there will be some
good that came from it, simplyjust because of you know, people are
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spending time with their families now thatthey didn't before. And we're more innovative
than we did before. We've embracedtechnology, especially the older Americans. There's
a lot of things that will comeout and there will be good for good
from it, and um, andwe will. We are so ready as
a country. Um. And you'rein a state as well that's not necessarily
a shelter in place, but it'slittle bit more open even than Arkansas.
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At this point, Um, peopleare are so ready to get back to
whatever, if it's normal, newnormal, whatever it may be. They're
just so ready to get back toit that they're going to fight to get
back to it. Yeah. Doesthat? Does that make sense? Um,
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They're ready to get They're ready toget back some simbilance of their life
back together and make it feel morenormal again. So and that's what I
and that's what I mean. Andyou'll, I think we'll be surprised at
how how quickly that actually happens.I'm pretty optimistic as I've studied this study
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take it absolutely, it's bring itdown to our personal view. Let's bring
it down to us, our familiesand our kiddos. So, yeah,
talk to me about the situation andthe naulty household. How is it been
for you for the last what isit a month and a half now at
you up on two months? Yeah? Well again, I've been working every
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day. So what's different is youknow the kids are home. Obviously they
dismissed schools in Arkansas really early,and so it's she's kept them on a
good routine where they're doing their packetsand and things like that. I forgot
what that term is that you educatorscall it h some ami or something like
that. Anyway, doing their packetsand they will usually finish them in a
couple of days so they can justhave their the rest of their time.
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But we just recently really started kindof just going going for drives and doing
things like that. But you know, so but I do my normal work
day, um, just everything aboutvia phone. I've done some at home.
So so we've been spending a lotof time together. The kids haven't
been really that stir crazy because youknow, and again in Arkansas, being
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in a rural area, we tendto be socially distanced, not on purpose,
but we do, you know,most of the congregation this stuff we
have, right, so most ofthe congregating we do are at sporting events
in church. So those those thingsthat were missing, so that that that
human component has just been able tohug and touch and you know, you
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know, shake hands, and thoseare really tough especially in with our with
in our culture. Um. Thetoughest thing is obviously we haven't seen well
until until this past couple of dayswhere I said script, I'm over it.
Uh not totally. I'm not throwingcaution to the wind, but I
mean I went and saw Emily andLexey because I have not seen them in
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a month and a half. AndEmily, you know, it's pregnant and
we have not seen her. We'remissing that entire thing. So you know,
so it's been but the good.The thing as far as as it
relates to T n D, Ican tell you this that um hold on,
just say yeah, um, asfar as it relates to T one
D. The thing that I've seenis it's been easier actually to manage because
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annistoncyre constantly and there's not really anyplace to go, and her her her
numbers have been really really good.So you know, we got we can
see stress maybe kicking in a littlebit, even though they might not feel
stressed. You can just kind offeel it, you know. And and
the hormone thing is obviously still goingon. But what we've noticed is that
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her projected A one C has gonefrom six point one, which is what
it was. She was supposed tohave her appointment actually tomorrow, but three
months ago at six point one,we're at five point four. Right now,
because just just constantly monitoring it andnot just over not in an overbearing
manner. It's just you know,it's just let's just hear with them all
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day long. And they're eating healthy. They we're teaching them to cook.
Im if you saw on Facebook.But Leslie's had them plant a garden.
She's taught him how to plant agarden. She's uh, they've each now
taken a different night, so acouple of times a week they tag will
cook, Aniston will cook. Sinceshe's teaching them those things. UM,
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and of course and and just tryingto stay healthy and things. Because the
information that we really understood as faras T N d UM is that the
folks that were being you know,for it's what you say is when they
throw out, hey, diabetes,you're immune compromised that yes, and no,
UM, if you have if youmaintain a normal blood blue blood BG,
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if you normal uh, good night. If you maintain good blood sugars,
you have really good management of that, you're not immune compromised. UM.
Now, it can have a virusI have obviously can have an effect
on you. UM. But evenwith that, uh, you know,
it's if the if your blood sugarsare normal and you've been managing it,
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you have a much higher success ofnot having a negative outcome. Um,
it's the ones, it's the Tone D that is not managed to well
that are they're having dire effects.So yeah, you know, and so
that's that's from the Adah for forjuveniles. Uh, that is from j
D r F. It's it's theones who's blow that is. It's the
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ones with the A one cs thatare that are too high, ones that
have consistently have struggle with the blowsugars, the one they are non compliant,
they're really urging compliance because that's theones that it can have a very
negative effect on. So our goalis just to keep her A one C
is lowest possible blow sugars in rangebecause that lowers the threat of anything if
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she did become infected. That lowersthe h a negative outcome. Yeah,
it's interesting what you were saying about. Obviously, with the kids being here,
you know you can kind of beon top of them and everything.
Um, that has the potential callsto be a double a sword because you
know you're sort of you're right thereand and I can kind of be on
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some of the number, maybe alittle too much, not not necessarily,
but any of us, all ofus. So I think we've had to
be very mindful of that. OfIn fact, Ella's here constantly rather than
being you know, on her aboutit constantly. Winstead, we're trying to
do what I think you're trying todo with Anna, which is empower them,
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begin shifting the responsibility small are notyou know, the responsibility in its
entirety, but responsibility small are overto them, you know, asking questions
rather than telling, you know,encouraging them to be inquisitive and be proactive
as opposed to you know, jumpingall over them when the alarm goes off,
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you know, just just trying totake this opportunity to model right,
to show them what they should bethinking in terms of or how not what
they should be thinking, but howthey should be thinking about their number,
and how they should be attacking itproactively, and how to do that in
a way that um feels natural andnot exhausting, which I think is the
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challenge probably for any t one D. You and I aren't t one D.
So we can only speculate based uponwhat we see in our homes every
day. But you know, Iunderstand it can get very exhausting, it
can be very mentally taxing. Andso how do you encourage someone with T
one D to stay on top oftheir number and to maintain a safe and
healthy blood sugar level UM and nothave it be you know, constant exercise
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in watching the number. So we'vebeen trying to develop those skills in her.
What's interesting is that Ethan is theone who's really interested in cooking.
In fact, kimball and air fryeryesterday. Oh so you know he wants
to air fright everything. So Ican't. Yeah, I can't leave my
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tennis shoes in the kitchen anymore,just in case they end up in the
air fryer. M but l hasno interest in But what's interesting is UM,
when they're home, I think,like all of us again, there's
this you know, if you're boredor your listless, or you're at a
loose end, there's there's the senseof you know, you kind of feel
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about space with food, right,Yeah, I'm gonna go grab a cob
and cookies, gonna go, graba soda. I'm gonna go. And
so that's a really interesting thing tobalance out as well, because of course,
when they're at school, they can'tdo either in class focused hopefully listening
right, engaging with their teacher andwith their classmates, or they're at recess
and they're running around doing their thing. So it's when they have this much
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time on their hands, it doesmake for an interesting challenge. Um And
I like the way you guys haveattacked that. I like the fact that
you know, educate them on andhaving a garden, which is something that
now we're finally in our house.Allen. I don't recommend congratulations to yeah,
that's right. I don't recommend movingduring a pandemic, but it doesn't
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it is at least a good distractor. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
exactly. Now you know, we'regonna do that. We're gonna have like
a little vegetable patch and see ifwe get the kids involved in that.
I don't know if I was evergoing to take the whole cooking thing like
kind of does. I'm not surethat will ever happened. We'll see,
yeah, we'll see. Well,you know, it's really just because there's
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some some bordom because there's nothing todo. Um And you know, in
South Arkansas again, population five aroundfive hundred. We just that there's not
a lot of activities, and we'reon the border with Louisiana and now and
and as soon as you jump theline, there's more prevalence of the of
it. So you know, sowe really tried to stay in our area.
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Uh for a month and a half. I never went eight mile past
ten miles south or or thirty milesnorth of my home, which I didn't
realize, and and no more thanfour or five miles east or west,
which was very hot. And itjust didn't because I've been so busy with
work and trying to help others seethe that this is gonna we're gonna get
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through it, we're gonna be okayument eventually, and you know, so
it just, uh it didn't dawnon me that we haven't done that.
So I started really see two weeksago, UH told Leslie every weekend,
I'm going to surprise you what we'regoing somewhere. So the state parks are
closed and and things like that.Now they're slowly course opening, but but
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as of today, um, youknow, they're they're they're pretty much open.
But the trails have always been open. So we just started doing nature
trails and and and doing those sortsof things, and it was just amazing,
just that it's no longer where you'redriving. You know. Maybe I'll
give you example. Yesterday we drovetwo and a half hours uh and to
a uh to where they have somesome rapids right at the foothills of the
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of the Washington Mountains, and itwas it was just beautiful and and it
it's odd because if we were saying, hey, we're gonna go do this.
We're gonna go up here to thiscertain state park and it's gonna take
two and a half hours to getthere, two and a half hours back,
you know, the drudgery will begoing there and getting back, and
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you'd want to spend the day andspend your time because of the drive.
But this time we went up,we stayed for about an hour, turn
around, it came back, andto them, it's not it's just getting
out of the house. And soit wasn't the destination. It was actually
the adventure of just going somewhere thatthey haven't seen before, enjoying it for
a little bit, and then comingback and then going about our day.
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You know, I don't know,it's weird, you know, as I
can relate in tidy because we've beendoing you know, they do their school
work. And then Ethan and Iactually, finally enough, right before kind
of the lockdown happened, Ethan andI had taken our first golf lesson and
so I actually purchased a used clubfrom the store and yet some golf balls
and whatnot. So actually, hereand I have been out in the odd
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I can go fours around, andElla and I have been out in the
yard practicing soccer. A soccer teamdo some stuff online and they have a
curriculum posted. But outside of that, um, oh, and Ella and
I have I have been teaching Ellahow to play chess. So that's been
fun. That's actually no oh cool. Yeah, yeah, it's but outsided
that it's been it's kind of thesame routine. It's groundhog day, right,
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um, and so today was thefirst day. Yeah, right,
absolutely, so today was the firstday, she said. I said a
few days ago, said, ofthe guys, this weekend, we're going
to find a nearby trail and we'rejust going to go out right, change
of scenery, fresh air. We'regoing to do it safely. We're gonna
make sure that you know, ifwe show up and there's a bunch of
cars there and there's a whole bunchof people milling around, we're going home,
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right, We're not getting in themiddle of that mess. But if
we show up and it's wide openspace and we can get out and walk
and you know, taking because obviouslythis is all new to us, this
area, and taking something we haven'tseen before, let's do it. And
we grab the dog today and tookoff and found this place with a lake
and some trees and a couple oftrails, and it was you know,
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it comes back to what we weresaying at the beginning of the pole,
right, not taking things for granted. We were laid out on the grass
and the dog was just flopped out, just panting away, and the kids
were chit chatting, and they justcollected some sea shirt and not seashells,
I guess lake shells, but littlemollusc type things offer the shadows. And
they were just sat there kind ofwiping the dirt off and showing each other
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there, you know, their theirtreasures, and it was just temperature was
perfect, and I was just Iwas just laying there thinking this is great.
I mean, life is good.Life isn't good, it's kind of
right now this moment, this momentis good, and boyd we need it,
you know, so I can relate. Well, No, you're exactly
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right. That's the thing, becauseyou know, three months ago, if
we would have done that, theywould have been bored out of their minds.
But they're they're enjoying it. Imean they're picking up picking up sticks,
and Tag wants to whittle something oryou know, it's I mean literally
he brought us pocket knife so hecan whittle something. It's and that's what
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my point is to folks, tofolks, you know, if and I'll
try not to get to preach youor anything, but honestly, I think
there will be a point in timewhere a few years from now we will
look back on this as a veryspecial time. I do not diminish the
loss of life. It probably willcontinue to be many more, many more,
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and and not to negate any ofthat. It's terrible that. The
thing is is that there was atremendous loss of life during War two.
There was a tremendous loss of lifeobviously in the Spanish flu, but even
then, those those people that lookback on those times that that that made
it through. You know, theydidn't take certain things for granted. And
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I think that there there will bea certain amounts for not everyone, but
a certain amount of fondness when youlook back on this period of time,
because the kids that we don't it'shard for us to put our minds into
the mindset of children. They willlook back on this as mom and dapper
home. They weren't rushing around.Life slowed down. I mean, if
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if you realize how frantic our pacewas, and that's why now every day
seems like a week because we wererunning a rat race and this and you
were forced to slow down. Ifnothing else, this slowed people down and
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made them realize forcefully what was wecall it essential business. We were honestly
the things that you that you thatyou order now that you buy, now
that you look at they're considered.You really realize what was important, what
was essential to you? What thingswere really wasteful? What things don't that
Are there things that you were doingthree months ago that you don't miss,
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Well, they weren't really important,but did they take up your time?
And what things are you really missing? And they're essential? So it helps
people to find out. If youdidn't have priorities before, write down everything
that you are absolutely missing, andthey will become priorities. I miss being
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able to see my friends face toface, and I pray that I'll never
take that for granted again. Imiss my grown up kids. You see
what I'm saying without getting too sappy. There are many things that I think
that we'll look back on this pointin time and say, you know,
there was a lot of growth there, and we made it to the other
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to endovervisit coming up here shortly.Ella had hers about a week or so
ago, and of course it wasa telemed right, it was doing everything
I guess through Zoom or not Zoomwhatever software the doctors are using, so
I'm sure it's more secure than zoom. So that was kind of an interesting
experience for you guys. Is thatwhat you guys are gonna be doing without
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a Well, uh, she's gothers tomorrow and I don't know if we're
gonna do it or not, rightis it woman? Is it gonna be
telling? Is it gonna be overthe computer? Yeah? Well, I
think because of the just the thethere was a different response rate, as
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we know, without getting to withoutgetting into the weeds on that, there's
different response rates for different states.And our endo is in Louisiana. So
if no one has been watching thenews, Lousiana got in a little bit
of trouble. I mean they had, they had a tough time, right,
So some some parts of the statejust did not take it as seriously
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as others. And not knocking Louisianabecause the people I know personally absolutely took
it seriously. The thing is itdid cause an upset in the scheduling portion
of that, right, so nowthat people have embraced things because again I
live in in a ruled area,so they've embraced things like tell medicine.
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The deal is is that a lotof us didn't have the We could have
Tell the medicine all we want,but you can't get a cell phone signal
much less Wi Fi, right,So that but that's now being so those
are things that other people in biggerareas take for granted. I mean,
imagine trying to do tele medicine whenyou can't get a cell phone signal.
Okay, so we are just nowgetting to a place where well I don't
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know yet because again it's got it'sgotten rescheduled. So that's sort of my
point. We've used tell the Medicinefor with tag okay, because he had
this rash come up with Anniston's willIt Tell themed probably, but the thing
also our endos. She's back,she's her clinics back open. But she's
also uh ramped up testings where she'sinviting I mean the family, can we
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can go and get diagnostic testing andand a body testing at the same time
for the whole family. So she'soffering that service. So I don't know
if we may delay it and thenall go as a family and get tested
just for that peace of mind.So we're not sure exactly how we're going
to handle that yet, but tellthem edicine is a big deal. And
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I think that that is something thatagain if we wouldn't have gotten to this
going through this. That's another positivepositive thing that's come through this is tell
them medicine, because imagine not havinga word bout going to the doctor.
Now you can just do it overthe You just do it like you should
have always been able to do itand not have to go and visit the
doctor, put yourself at rich forinfection of someone that might be might be
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ill. So I don't know ifit's gonna tell medicine or not, but
uh, I'm you know, we'llwe'll cross that bridge when we get to
it. But for right now,the scheduling has been off simply because of
the fact that Louisiana had to shutdown some of those things because that was
not necessarily a sin even though itwas obviously it's a innercnologist, but your
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your hospitals and things like that wereconsidered essential. So but when you have
a private clinic, a lot ofthose things. You know, some some
are central, some are not,but most places avoided it and so and
we were unfortunately that caught in thatkind of situation where we do have clinics
and things in Arkansas that were open, but but Louisiana a lot of those
things were shut down were or shutdown or either the patients just wouldn't go.
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And that's I would encourage people that, look, you know, do
not skip your business because they havedone everything they can to try to prepare
to keep you safe. Um,that's just my personal opinion. But yeah,
I'll say I'll I'll give you anupdate on that. Yeah, and
I'd be interested to here because itwas definitely it was an interesting experience,
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and you're right, it did maybethink why why isn't this Why isn't this
the norm? Like I'm okay,going on site maybe once or twice a
year so the doctor can actually eyeballand you know, you have that personal
human interaction kind of in the sameroom. But is it really necessary for
every visit? I mean, thisseems like it would be a more efficient
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an effective way to conduct those particularappointments. But speaking of silver linings as
well, and I can't let yougo without. We haven't had a chance
to talk about some of the silverlinings into in regards to some of the
large players in the insulin market andsome of their response to the COVID situation.
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Eli Lily, of course, butI think being the first to announce
lowering, significantly lowering insulin costs toensure that people impacted financially during this this
this challenging time could get access toessential medicine. I think it was.
It was not a no disc andthen come out afterwards and they have some
kind of a program. Actually,I think all of them at this point
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they have some kind of a programgoing on. And we're seeing incredible shift
in a marketplace that for a verylong time has been entirely immobile, has
been resistant to the pressures that havebeen placed on it. So I'm curious
what's your thoughts about that, anddo you feel like this is something that
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is going to do you think there'sshifts are going to remain beyond the coronavirus
or you think these companies are goingto revert to type once the pandemic has
passed. Now, I think thatthat ship has sailed. This was something
that there was so much pressure onit. But most most corporations, obviously
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for profit corporations, are so resistantto change and money has to be made.
But we all know the deal.We know what the deal was with
insulin and Eli Lily. I applaudthem because they kind of they broke They
kind of broke the dam on thatone. And if you were in competition
with Eli Lily, you'd better havestepped up within within days or you were
(40:59):
going because it's and that's the thingabout capitalism. You if you if you
continue to try to sell insolent atthree hundred and fifty dollars of all,
you were going to lose business.So Lily ste Lily stepping up. I
applaud them because they changed things forUH, for the foreseeable future. I
(41:20):
don't see it going back, UMsimple because it was it's the right thing
for them to do. It's beenthe right thing for them to do,
but it but it's sad that ittook something like a pandemic to make them
do it. Yeah, but I'mglad they did. UH, and you
forced that on to other people.And it's the same way when you start
open just like telemedicine, UM oneof my staff members. She did her
(41:42):
first tele medicine appointment. She hasum u rmature authortis. She talked to
some gentleman from some other part ofthe country. And you you're I mean,
you're jumping state lines talking to adoctor that's not licensed in your state.
But he was able to. Butbut it's a simple follow up.
Uh, we had to go toyour doctor just to get a prescription refilled,
which was uh, ironically enough,hydrosty larkin. But she that's what
(42:07):
she has to have because here's shehad. She has room told authritis and
that's what it was for. That'sthe labeled use for it. But in
any case, not to go there. Just my point, my point is
is that but so so my right. So my point is you know,
why wasn't a why wasn't it alreadyliked that? But again and again that
(42:27):
you opening opening up state lines anddoing those things, it breached competition.
You break competition, you lower prices, and I think this will for a
silver lining. You will see thisis my personal opinion. I think that
you will see a continuation of thisbecause the now the consumer will demand it.
There are so many regulations that gotslashed when you UM usually throw on
(42:52):
a new regulation, it's very hardto give it and get it off when
you when you UM eliminate a regulation, it's very difficult to get it put
by. So the cutting of regulationis a silver lining in all sorts of
what the medicine the way they're doingwith the FDA. Can you imagine now
the opportunities that companies will have oncewe get on the other side of this.
(43:15):
Forget coronavirus, what are the whatare going to be the rapidity now
or the acceleration of treatments for typeone diabetics because the FDA no longer has
so much bureaucracy and red tape,right, Yeah, So it opens the
(43:35):
door cancer treatments, to type onediabetes treatments, all these other chronic diseases.
You just opened the door for companiesto go in universities, just to
go in where private and public canjoin together and accelerate treatments, cures,
vaccinations, you name it. Thiscould be one of the best things that
(43:58):
ever happened to to the to themedical system in the United States of America.
So, yeah, it is aI think it will continue. I
think it'll be forced to continue justbecause of the public demand. And I
do want to add one thing tothat, because it's hard to know exactly
because there's so much information that comesout, and again you don't if you're
getting all your information from the newscycle, I would just say stop doing
(44:22):
that. You really need new doresearch on ron because go to the places
that don't have a dog in thefight, the ones that aren't average,
that don't rely on advertising. Goto your the resources like your endocrinologists.
Go to the foundations or associations thatwould that provide this information. And I'll
tell you JDRF if you go toUH. If you go to JDRF dot
(44:45):
org forward slash cost Costs, theywill have the listing of every UM UH
medical diabetic supplier and insulin producer,UM and technology maker. They've got a
list of every company that is nowlowered prices or made changes. Go to
(45:08):
that and they will give you youyou'll find almost every resource for your type
one diabetic kid that you will needto save you money. So take advantage
of that. UM. So again, that's that's JR jd RF dot org
Forward slash cost c OSTs. Yeah, good advice. Absolutely, um what'
(45:35):
you're paying me for? So weuh, well, I feel like we've
really really grazed conversation around our familiesand what's gone on in our homes.
And yet we've talked forty five minuteshere. But there was so much for
us to get our teeth into youbecause you and I hadn't talked in a
while. Obviously, a lot's happened, a lots happened in the global landscape,
(45:58):
a lot's happened here in our countryor here in the US, say
our country. It's not yet mycountry, not yet, maybe one of
these days. But anyway, butwe know we had talked a little bit,
or at least I think through talkingwe've I think we've kind of flushed
out some of the differences right betweenliving in a big city and living in
(46:19):
a rural setting. And I definitelywant to talk more about the impact on
our families, and particularly as we'reon the back side of this, is
we're starting to come out of thisnow, what does that look like and
how our families responding to that.So I think we'll have the chance to
do that because I want to letour listeners know that our next episode is
(46:39):
actually going to be our first everDad's Panel so Alan, unfortunately it wasn't
able to join us for that one. We've already recorded it, but we
have a couple of other great dads, dads a T one D kiddos who
will be joining myself just to kindof talk about their perspectives of being the
dad of a T one D.And I think we recorded that at the
very beginning actually of quarantine, soit'll be kind of interesting to see what
(47:05):
we were what we were saying rightthere. We haven't a chance to get
that one out because of the stuffwe've been doing with Stacey Simms, Alan
and me wanting to get those outwhile they were timely. It's meant that,
you know, this prerecorded show isn'tgoing to come out now. I
think they'd be like, almost toomuch. We recorded it, so that
would be the next show that comesout. It's gonna be extremely are because
yeah, yeah, well because lifechange has changed so much, because exactly
(47:29):
no, I was just gonna staybecause it's because the things that you wrote,
post that you made, things thatyou said to people and you and
you look back on those, you'relike, God, I was susting here
yet I didn't know anything, youknow, because we didn't know, we
really didn't know, and it's andit's odd. Yeah, so that'll be
interesting to listen to. And yeah, and I can't wait to catch you
(47:52):
up on the back side be ableto look back on this. Yeah,
well that showed that the Dat panelI guess will drop. This show folks
are listening to now obviously is outon May fifteenth. I guess the dad
panel will dropped June fifteenth. Ifeel bad because actually it'd be almost three
months since I recorded there by then. But I feel bad because those guys
came on the show and it wasa great episode, and I'm anxious to
get this out so they can hearit and share it with their friends.
(48:14):
So that will come out of Junefifteenth. So if we keep our monthly
schedule, and I knew and Iwon't do another show like this until or
our listeners won't hear it until Julyfifteenth, by which point, god willing
will be over the worst or atleast be able to see some really significant
light at the end of the tunnel, and it'll be fun to be able
to talk about that and how that'simpacting our families and what that looks like.
(48:38):
Yeah, that sounds good. Ohman, it was great talking to
you. You too, Man,you too. It's you know, whenever
we whenever we get on Mike,can we talk and just have these kind
of rambling conversations. It just it'sfunny. It always. It reminds me.
It reminds me of a very distinctmoment. It reminds me of being
(48:59):
in my car one of our phoneconversations with you before this podcast. You
know, when this podcast was justa twinkle in our mother's eye. And
I remember having a conversation with you, and I remember pulling up behind our
Whole Foods and parking up and justbecause I wanted to focus and I want
to drive and talk, it wasthe conversation was kind of intense, and
(49:20):
I remember pulling up and talking andI remember talking for I don't know ages,
it was forty five minutes to anhour. And that was the moment
where, you know, I'm sureif you said it or I said it,
but there was kind of a consensusthat hey, it's what I made
a good podcast. And that wasthe moment that Dad was born. And
so whenever I get back on Mikewith you and we have these rambling conversations
and you know, they're very unstructured, but it's just it's just fine.
(49:44):
It's just really enjoy to get onhere and talk with you. And even
when we don't go deep into theweeds on a T one D topic as
we you know we really haven't today, even then, just to get on
and talk. And I think ourlisteners enjoy hearing a couple of friends,
you know, just talk about whatthey're dealing with. And you know,
we talk about T one D inbit part on these episodes where we're not
(50:06):
focused on a particular topic, buteven just that, even just getting on
and talking, I think it's Icertainly enjoy it, and I hope our
listeners get something from it too.Yeah, I believe they do. It
goes to big world around. There'sa lot of life that's not Type one
diabetic, even though you have one, they're lives in your household, so
yep, there's a lot goes intoit, and I'm sure they appreciate that
good stuff. All right, myfriend, Well it's been fun. Let
(50:30):
me go ahead and wrap this up. Thanks for listening to Dad's and diabetes
folks. As you well know bynow, Alan and I are Dad's of
T one d kiddos on this funkylittle podcast, trying to figure things out
as you all are. We reallyappreciate you doing it. Guys, stay
safe, wash your hands, keepyourself with distance, but get out and
enjoy a park. If you cando it safely, get out and enjoy
(50:52):
nature, get some fresh air,change your surroundings. It will help with
the stir craziness that you might befeeling. But above all ours do stay
safe and say well and take careof those around you. And Alan and
I were award speaking to you soon. Good fund, Alan, take calm,
enjoyed a brother. You'll be good.
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