December 14, 2020 • 50 mins
Two dads of T1D daughters, on a podcast, trying to figure it all out.
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Alan and Mark round out the year by discussing the inevitable shift from childhood to young adulthood. Yes, listeners, it's THAT long-promised episode...
As both girls enter womanhood within a few months of each other, the dads discuss what that's meant for their T1D's both physiologically and psychologically - and what it's meant for the dads!
And then we round out the episode and the year with a couple of sweet guest appearances from the real stars of the show, and a beautiful musical performance from one of them to take us perfectly into the holidays...
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(This episode was recorded via Facebook Livestream and can be viewed on our Facebook page: https://fb.watch/2nJQEGAEDP/)
Alan and Mark round out the year by discussing the inevitable shift from childhood to young adulthood. Yes, listeners, it's THAT long-promised episode...
As both girls enter womanhood within a few months of each other, the dads discuss what that's meant for their T1D's both physiologically and psychologically - and what it's meant for the dads!
And then we round out the episode and the year with a couple of sweet guest appearances from the real stars of the show, and a beautiful musical performance from one of them to take us perfectly into the holidays...
Please do check out our wonderful Dads and Diabetes show sponsors, and using the discount codes below, get some great holiday gifts for your friends and loved ones!
- Glucose Revival @ https://glucoserevival.com - code 'DADS' for 25% off your purchase
- Dia-Be-Tees @ www.Dia-Be-Tee.com - code DADSANDDIABETES15 for 15% off your purchase and FREE shipping
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I just want to remind you,guys, this is just me and Mark
telling stories and that nothing that wesay here is intended to be medical of
bias. This is strictly from ourpoint of view as two dads telling the
stories of our T one d kiddos. We also want our listeners to know
that we try to maintain a perspectiverecognizing that whatever Alan and I or our
families are dealing with, it doesn'tamount to a hill of beans compared to
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that which our daughters or anyone diagnosedwith type one diabetes has to contend with
on a day to day basis.Welcome our listeners to Dads and Diabetes.
As you well know by now ifyou're a regular listener to the show,
we're two dads, proud dads,t kids, just trying to figure it
all out on a podcast. Tryingto figure it out on a podcast.
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Trying to figure it all out soundsbad on a live stream. Many song
I was stare on the live streamtoday. Nobody used to worry so well.
So if you could just like andcomment and all that kind of stuff
you have questions, we can hitit all live. We can actually kind
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of put it up on the screen. If you have any questions, just
type it on into the box thereand on the comment box and I can
do this and you'll be featured onhere. And yeah, you'll feel any
questions for us, feel free tojump right in. And so what is
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on the agenda today? I reallydidn't know what the name this. I
did want to say, Merry Christmasto everybody, happen and happy holidays.
I hope you have a great newyear. I'm ready for it's freaking here
to be over with. I'm prayingthat it doesn't hern like December thirty second
or something like that, because I'mso ready for twenty twenty to be done.
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But if it was going to havea thirty second, it would happen
this year. So in any case, I know that you had something in
particular you wanted to talk about,but you usually set the engine and listen.
We'll let you. I'll let youkind of get in there and do
what you do best. Yeah yeah, well yeah, Before you come onto
that, I have to say I'mhappy Harneker as well to those folks who
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celebrate Harneka. Also, I noticedAlan, you have a Christmas tree there
in the background, which is verypretty thank you. I'm in my office.
My office is very office like theexception to my soccer jersey behind me
here, so I don't have muchhere in the way Christmas decorations. But
around Christmas time I always put acouple of pictures I love of my kids
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up. I had this incredibly embarrassingpicture of my now fourteen year old son,
who is taller than I am,er than I am when he was
a toddler, in a full onSanta suit. So that's always fun.
Yeah, and then ella folks cansee this, but oh yeah, nice
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little back in the Sharing this withour worldwide audience is very cute. Thirteen
years or thirteen next month, thirteennext month. Man, they're getting big.
They are getting big. Anerton justgrowing like a weed. I'm telling
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you, buddy man, she's uhyeah, you know, just she's taught.
I think Lexi she may almost bethe same height. That's Alexei.
Now she's getting pretty close, Imean, growing like a weed, doing
doing very well. Yeah, soso Steven trut So yeah, say how
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to Stephen trut Thanks for jumping on, buddy up on holidays to you as
well. But yeah, we justwant to be happy. And healthy,
and so do you have big plansfor the holidays? I mean it's twenty
twenty, so yeah, yeah,so um, in terms of plans for
Christmas, not really. We arein Austin and the Outlaws are in Dallas,
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so we're probably gonna probably gonna headup the trail head north and go
to Dallas for a few days atsome point. Yeah, but we had
had a little bit of drama hererecently, Alan, you're gonna enjoy this.
So to start the show by justkind of catching up right before we
get into the meat of our topic. And we'll come on to the topic
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here in a few minutes. Butas far as catching up is concerned,
so I mentioned to you that eatingall back at school now, and the
school has been doing a fantastic jobof masking up social distancing contact, tracing
all of the good stuff that youwant for them to be doing. We
got a couple of instances of teacherstesting positive with COVID, and the school
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has responded very quickly. This week, however, it all came down like
a house of cards, several childrentesting positive with COVID, and then siblings
of those initial positive tests testing positivewith covies right shot, being that they're
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Their recommendation at the school was allahbe done for the year, at least
in person. She's got final examsnext week, so she'll still be working
from her bedroom. But they said, you know, it's just she wasn't
in she wasn't first contact with anyof these kids, but she was close
enough and in enough classes that itjust doesn't make sense with her being higher
risk. Ethan, however, wasevidently sat four feet from one of these
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kids for about three days. Sohe's officially upstairs right now in quarantine.
Oh really, Oh wow, Well, yeah, I'll let you know,
I understand. Yeah, that isa day to day thing. Yeah,
ours saying, you know, it'suh, it's it's it's really. It's
spreading pretty quickly here as well,you know. Thankfully, you know,
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we haven't had a ton of hospitalizationsand stuff. We do have one friend
that was kind of he's he's he'sstill in the hospital. I think he's
been in the hospital ten days.Um, yeah, but and he's doing
better. He after Uh, youknow, some the treatment it's just weird.
I don't The treatment regiments are differentdepending on where you are. If
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you're in a large hospital, ifyou're in a rural hospital and things,
they don't have to all the resources. But um, he did get some
convalescement plasma. Uh he found amatch right here in Taylor, as a
matter of fact. And um,he went from it seemed like he was
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he was going to be on anevent to really very close to being on
a ventilator to uh being up andout of the bed in about three hours.
That's how rapidly he responded to that. So you know, and but
uh, you know, after youstayed down for a the while kind of
gets you and um so praying forhim and and then um lo and behold
old Fro Jeffrey come. He testedpositive day before yesterday. Uh, he
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wouldn't. He hadn't been around.And those of you who listening to my
other podcast, it's uh I wantpromoted here. But anyway, small time
famous looks up. But he tested, he tested pausitus. I've been checking
on him every day, I haven't. I didn't call him this morning.
Yeah, I don't know if youmet Fro or not. He's uh,
he's the red necklace of all ofus. You would remember, you definitely
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remember, uh, or he wouldhave made you remember for sure, but
uh but anyways, yeah, he'suh, but he said he's doing fine.
It's just the uh, not beingable to taste is the strangest thing
to him. He thought he justhad he thought he had a sign of
infection. But man, yeah,it's just uh, it's spreading around like
it's spreading like wildfire. Um,And we've had quite a few people sick,
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but nobody um entire straits yet oranything like that. So you know,
just uh, we got to doour best and try to stay safe.
And so we're not really going tobe doing much traveling or anything like
that either. So we're here atthe house and you know, doing doing
our best. You know, itseemed like it was just Christmas. I
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spelt with me and Leslie. We'retalking about yesterday last night, went and
did some Christmas, looked at someChristmas lights. We're gonna do it again
tonight. That's kind of a tradition. And there's not too many people that
put out lights this year. It'sand I don't know, it's um,
it's like this entire year has beenon. Pauls And I was watching TV
last night and the NBA come backon in preseason I'm thinking, what didn't
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he just finish their season? Ithought, oh, yeah, it was
delayed. It's just like it's beenWe're in a time warp or some kind
of weird something. It's hard andobviously I'm a big fan of soccer and
wrapped up last night, which seemsweird, and you know it's very late
in the day. And then thePremier League in England they were absolutely how
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bent I'm starting the new season literallyas they're dost settled on the old and
so they are cramming games in ata rate of knots. And you would
think as a soccer fan, Ioh, this is great. You know,
it's just NonStop soccer. But honestly, from a fan's perspective, it's
fatiguing, and it certainly is forthe players. I mean they're starting to
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drop like flyers right now. Whenyou know, England's in the situation here,
so there's certain stadiums depend depending onwhere you are in the country allowed
up to two thousand fans. Well, these stadiums hold forty fifty sixty thousand
people, so two thousand people.Yeah, it's nut's neither here nor there.
But still it's some degree of support, but most of these games are
being played in echoe empty stadiums,you know, one game after the next,
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and it's sort of it's difficult toreally get excited about it. We're
even seeing it is something more thanjust a practice match. Yeah, not
even being not being in there.It is like you're watching a practice even
when because I'm an NFL fan,was but it's Dallas is not doing me
any favors this year. But justthe the amount of injuries, and it's
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not just it just I don't know, the people weren't prepared. I don't
know, it's just the amount ofthe injuries this year because of I think
them pushing certain things and I don'tknow. Yeah, yeah, it's uh.
And and then the the thing Iguess that probably bothers me more than
anything is the cardboard cutouts of fansat the end. The MLB used that
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and then NFL did it, andI'm like, just get them out.
I mean, that is a it'snot a it's not an insulting, but
it feels like it. It's they'rethey're playing sounds and they're trying to guess
if the audience, if the crowdboo or yell and then you can hear
a live feed. If you goto a live feed of the of the
game, it's like they're just havingpractice. It's what it is. The
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weirdest year. Maybe maybe Baden tofix all things. So that's that's what
I'm from counting on. So theChristmas lights thing is concerned. We've had
kind of the reverse in that ourneighborhood has gone crazy. So it's lights
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on our house, which is great, and lights on the trees and whatnot.
But yeah, it's been fun.It's been from walking the neighborhood.
There are several houses here that havegone all out and it's it's nice to
see. So um. Actually,well, I have scrupted. I interrupted
my activity today to record this part. I was in the middle of doing
some baking. Well, so I'mgonna ask you a question here, Alan,
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all right, I'll do my best. The first thing comes to mind,
okay, bacon comes to food.Oh give Christmas? When I eat?
Ah? What's that one thing whenit comes out? Ginger gingerbread gingerbread.
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Um, God, there's so manycompot pacam pie. I'm trying to
think when I was a kid.Yeah, well, ginger gingerbread. Probably
it makes me think of Christmas alot, um man and for a tradition
for us is pecam pie. Soand it's really hard because Thanksgiving and Christmas
we almost do the same thing inthe South. Um and everybody has their
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traditions, but a lot of peopledo chicken and dressing on and think on
Thanksgiving and Christmas. Uh. Nowwe've switched to gumbo, um because we
got something for we got some manyLouisiana folks in the family now. But
uh yeah, probably probably gingerbread Ithink makes me think of Christmas and cocoa.
We have you know, hot cocobar kind of deal, that kind
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of stuff. Um, yeah,that's that's uh, that's that's probably you
is it? Peppermint? Is?That? Was that the answer? What
have you? Uh? Steven willbe making chocolate peppermint bars later. Ella's
going to happen with those. Actually, you know, white white alman Bart
peppermint stuff. Lex used to makethis white chocolate brittle stuff. I don't
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know out golly, yeah, there'sso many things, but really I guess
the one thing, Yeah, whatwas you? Well, well, I
mean there's lots of like you,there's lots of things. When I was
young, Um, I knew itwas Christmas because dates came out. My
grandmother she actually grew up in Egypt. Uh yeah, bring out things dates,
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and there's always nuts around. Isaw these kind of things come out
as nuts around my family too.Yeah. One thing was mince pies.
Oh my god, in the middleof making mince pies. Okay pies,
people didn't go ahead and google.It's an English thing. It's awesome.
Yeah, but I know what I'veheard of immense pie. And because I
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started to think English, but youwould have known I was been disingenuous because
I was you know, I justtried to think of every English thing that
I could have, but immense pieactually crossed my mind. Um, I
don't know what else would y'all have? No no plum drops yea, yeah,
Christmas pudding, tea and crumpets.I don't know fish and chips anyway,
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I have small yeah, so immensepie. So what is immense and
how do you kill it? It'snot meat. It's actually it's raisins,
and it's peel, and it's zestand it's um it's hard to describe,
but it's and it's encased in apastry. Uh. Has a pastry cop
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that you put the fitting into andthen has a little lid and then you
dust it with icing sugar. Folkscan go ahead and google this anyway.
That's what I'm in the middle ofmaking and idea and the excellent. So
you need to send me some man, I've never had a mince pie.
You need you need to just sendme a Keto mince pie. Well maybe
next year we can see each otheraround the season and we can take care
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of that. That would be cool. And and I have developed and I'm
about to start working on. Seethe thing I said, pecan pie.
That was always my that's my thing, uh my recipe. That's the thing
that gets hand. It's gonna behanded down to my future generations. But
I'm working on a Keto pecan pie, which is very difficult since it's basically
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corn syrup and sugar with pecan's ontop. Right, But uh, I
think I think I've got it.I'll think I've got it doing some funky
stuff with gelatin, but um,you know everything else is made in the
factory or so our lab or whatnot. But yeah, I think I actually
have a Keto pie. And it'sonly four six carbs per slice, not
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bare Africa camp. So we'll say, yeah, well it's going on to
the topic of the day, then, shall we? Sure? Yeah,
absolutely, we have been. We'vebeen waiting on this one. I've got
to say. It's it's trepidation thatI feel right now. I feel completely
unqualified to have this conversation. You, however, my friend, are supremely
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qualified. I'm not happy about it, period. I'll just not. Um.
Yeah, I think it's going toscrew the flow up of them podcast.
Um let me let him get mecut him off at the past before
we lose our listeners. So bothof our daughters have moved on to the
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next stage of their female lives Ellaas just as recently as last month.
So evidently we could have done thisepisode last month, Alan, but nobody
in the family chose to tell mewhat was going on. Oh really yeah,
So we Anna obviously went through thatstage several months ago, right yeah,
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yeah, yeah, she did,she didn't, and we were kind
of waiting on Ella. But we'refinally at that point that spot. So
why are we putting our house throughthe mill? Why are we discussing my
daughter's first period on dad's and diabetes? Well, because those of you who
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don't have daughters, or even maybetherese are you who do who aren't at
that stage yet, may not beaware that this can have a pretty significant
impact on some of what we haveto considers to blood sugar and rates of
insulin. And I will, Iwill go to my grave. You remembering
Stacy Sims telling me to stock upon insulin um. You know evidently you
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know when you go through puberty.This even impacts boy as well. And
of course her son, I thinkBenny is now fifteen, and she warned
me. She warned me it wascoming down the pike, and she was
not wrong. So anyhow, youyou went through that quickly earlier than we
did. And two other daughters aswell, older daughters, adult daughters.
Now, so why don't you youlead us off and took about Anna's experience?
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Well, um, you know,there's not much of a it's not
like we're able to tell like theirdiabetic journey. Uh, it just happened
one day, so we knew itwas coming. Huh did you I see
tell you? Oh? I meanno, when it occurs unless it was
an event. Um, with thisis my third time to have to go
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through this. So no, it'san event. I mean you the mom
kind of gets an idea that that'skind of that that's about to happen,
and you're just waiting and the andyou can you can see the change that
starts occurring in the blood sugars beforethat UM and then when it yes,
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and then when it happened because youunexplicably things that worked just stopped working.
And when it finally happens and youunderstand it's happening, and then you go
on for a few months and it'shappening and stuff. That week, you
might as well be injecting water.UM Insulin has almost no effect. I
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mean it is the we had wehad to go back to the endo to
make some adjustments and things. Andat the same time, so it throws
your body into a um, avery strange state with the way insulin is
reacting. At the same time,UM, it's also their body's changing that
has a rate on it that hasn'ta huge effect. And so it's not
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that it just youve got to beprepared for that one week. You have
to be prepared for what their bodyis now going through and what this means,
because it's going to change everything.Uh there you know, so we've
had to change basil rates and umand do a lot of different things.
So it's not just for that week. And so now things have kind of
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leveled out because it's just you haveto change levels for everything. Um,
as they grow and as they finallyhit a spot where they've plateaued for a
little while. Man, it canit can just throw things. I mean
yeah for a while. Again,the main thing is it just insolent.
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Not that didn't have an effect.You just had to really dose hard.
Then. Um, you may havea week where and this happened just I
think last month or a few weeksago, she would start dropping in one
night she dropped down below four.Well it just the pump said, uh,
the sensor just said low. Andthat rarely happens. And yeah,
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so we're having to you know,that was happening for man, it happened
almost for the entire week where shewould drop into the forties. Uh,
she would drop into the low fiftiesand high forties. And you're like,
what are you doing? That seemscountries what you were saying about what that's
what I'm saying. No, that'swhat I'm saying. Is that at first
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it was like giving insulument was likewater, and then now she's plateaued after
changing buzz of rates and going tothe indoor, doing all this stuff,
and then suddenly, that's what I'msaying, just about just a few weeks
ago, this is the first timeit's happened. Suddenly she just starts dropping
like crazy because the insulin the bodyseems to be responding to the incident like
it did. So, Yeah,I don't know if this is a very
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favorable topic because we went from six. We went from six to two.
As soon as we start talking aboutthis, viewers, Uh, we we
told you for years. But youknow, but it gets interesting, especially
from a dad's perspective, uh,because you're it's more of a it's a
mom thing, you know, andum and UM, I don't know,
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it's you know, it's just reallyhard to uh um as far as what
we have to do other than managingcraziness. Um. And from a guy's
perspective of just dealing with that anyway. Now, I imagine when you know,
I think thankfully and Emily and Lexiebeing married in now the house,
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I could imagine having an all fourat the same time. Uh, me
and Tag would probably go stay ina hotel, I would imagine. So
I think the thing is interesting tome is again you know you by your
an old hand at this that's whatthey say. This is my one and
only I hope not saying that,you know, kind of a detrogatory fashion.
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And I have one daughter. I'mnot intending on having any more kids.
So so I don't know what Iexpected. I suppose more of a
hoopler. I expected at least tonotified the period. Police didn't call you.
Yeah, it was very matter offact. And I literally had to
say to him, so has thishappened? And she's like, oh,
yeah, yeah it was last month. What at all the while, Yeah,
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I'm wrestling with with with basil rates. Oh wow, yeah that's something
now I particid have talked about.We had to sell ubatory dinner. It
wasn't as though everything was hunky dory, and then all of a sudden,
the basil rates were all over theplace. For us. It was a
steady climb and then I kind ofwe hit like a week where again,
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she could have been I was joking, she could have been taking showers in
insulin. It would make no difference. Yeah, yeah, I said to
him, I'm like, has thisgone down? Is this the thing?
Now? Did you know she hitPubert scene? She's like, oh yeah
yeah last month. Oh okay,Um, I can't believe it's gonna come
and tell you. I don't knowI'm talking about I'm talking about knowing about
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Ella. That's I'm totally joking ifAnniston knew, if Anniston supermaster about it.
I mean, it's it's so funny. Even she's even like making jokes
with her brother. Yeah, thetwo that are joking about it or what
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it's like nothing to her? Whatkind of jokes? Give me a good
joke? Just what is this?I would have thought she'd be very shy
and coy and resilve and embarrassed.But no, well, well I think
it is some kim prime to whileI'm imagining. Sure, but also it's
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see it's also a kind of aride of passage because when if like Anniston
maybe was a little bit later thansomething friends or which she was, and
maybe somewhere you know. So Ijust remember with Emily and Lexei and going
through this that not that they wouldbe teased, but it was like us,
like it's a topic every day whenschool life is normal of hey,
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is that happened yet? Does ithappened yet? And that sort of stuff.
And so then they're to their friendsand their mom they're actually they're proud
of it, you know, like, hey, I've reached this stage.
I'm growing up, because you know, when you're when you're a kid,
you want to grow up fast andat But to a dat, you know,
just talking to a dad about it, it's kind of weird. But
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yeah, around here, it's justkind of uh, I don't know.
It was something that was immediately sharedand talked about, and like, you
know, I didn't have a talkwith her like sit her down, like
let me explain to you what's goingon and not not like that. It's
just she it was like, hey, reached that point, and she was
kind of cold and shy about it, and but she smiled because to her
it is a mastone. You know, they're grown up. She's grown up.
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What's interesting is I think it bringsit brings it home to you and
I that we do. You know, boys don't I mean obviously boys don't
have that, but also boys don'thave that definitive moment, right, I
mean when we hit pubert either areseveral things that happened. Typically, you
know, hair starts to appear,voices starting to get deeper. This,
I got this weird English accent whenI hit Puberty's yeah, I used to
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talking to me a Western accent.I don't my whole life or something like
this. Now you got you gotthe cool puberty. Why couldn't they had
an Australian accent? That would havebeen awesome. But it's progressive, right,
and so obviously what girls go through. There's a very definitive line in
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the sand. But I suppose that'swhat from a diabetes perspective, That's what
I guess kind of surprised me,is I expected for there to be a
or responding line in the sand whereby, you know, in this space.
It was sort of twenty four thirtysix, forty eight hours, all of
a sudden, things when Haywire andI was scrambling around her chicking with this
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headcut off, like what the heck'sgoing on here? But it wasn't.
It was. It was progressive,which I suppose makes sense. But I
guess that's all I would share withour listeners, you know, those who
preparing to go through that or youknow, have much younger girls. You
know, one day this will happen. Everyone's experience is going to be a
little different. I get that,but for us at least, it was
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very much a ramp up. Now, I will say that we did a
little di y when it came tobase or rates because I just felt like
I had to, you know,I just needed to get that. You
know, we talked about last month, Allen. I needed to get in
the middle of it and just takecare of things, and without blowing my
own horn too aggressively, I thinkI did. I think I did a
really good job of adjusting rates andwhatnot. She went actually had her latest
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end over the last week, andthey actually backed rates off a little bit
because I think Homemen's trying to settledown a little bit now. And then
just like she was getting too muchinsulin. Yeah, um or anyone.
He was great and her rates werejust about where they needed to be.
So, you know, back inAustin again, I guess good. Yeah,
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And that's what I would say forfolks that this wouldn't apply to,
but it is important when that whenthat happens. Um. Just even though
because we had taught and you saidthat her stuff has been kind of out
of whack, and so she hadalready reached that point in time. You
didn't know it, but you know, sometimes you're gonna it's gonna be shared
with you. Sometime it's not andstuff. But um, physically it's there's
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it's pretty consistent in what I'm hearing. Again, you didn't know. I
knew, and we watched to seewhat was going to happen, and and
they basically had the same kind ofphysical reaction it's insolence like water, um.
And then they settled down, andso you know, it's so I
I think there's some commonality there.Uh, and just be prepared because you
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should never know when it's going tohappen, you know, but being being
ready for it visited in the endthough, because you will have to adjust
some basil rates. They didn't knowwhat's going on, so you can have
that backing for sure. All Right, So this really has nothing to do
with diabetes. But as we're onthis sticky subject, but have genous to
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talk about, um, much ofwhat we discussed has been around physiology.
Yeah, let's branch out for amoment into psychology. Okay, it's just
nothing to do with diabetes. Buthey, I've got your on the line,
and maybe other dad's listening to this. They're curious, Um, what
if any impact have you seen withAnna in that regard? You think you
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mentioned to me. I don't wantto portray a confidence. I can't remember
this was on Michael off Mike,but I think you had mentioned an increase
in SaaS. Oh yeah, yeah, No, I think it's probably was.
It probably was on out off cameraor phone. But you know,
there's uh, there's been a yeah, there's been a psychological change, emotional
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change. Um. Uh as faras behavior, you know, just the
I've noticed her getting in she getsa little bit of hot water with Mama,
a little bit more um and alittle bit sass year because you know,
they're I can see the looking forindependence a little bit more. She's
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able to she wants to not beby herself or whatnot. But she you
know, she's just very content togo to hang out room and watch Netflix,
where before she'd want to just hangout with mom or something or dad
or something like that. I don'tyou can tell she's growing up. No
interests have changed. And you know, I'm talking to my boys more and
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and and that's become a big thing, so her and talking to her sisters
a lot more war um and thebut the sassiness. Yeah, the the
um um huffing and puffing, andyou know, you know, all of
them kind of get to that pointwhere they don't know. Not not that
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we're stupid, not that we're stupidor anything, but they will get that,
uh you know, give you thestink eye a little bit or and
they'll testra boundaries and it's just themgrowing into who they are. And yeah,
well it's just because all it isis just growing into their independence and
just we all did it. Andmen, you didn't have a period,
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but we just all did it.Um. You you realize that, uh
you know, you reach that pointwhere you know your parents were heroes and
they know everything and then suddenly theydon't. And then you gotta wait till
for about ten years and they realizedthey didn't know what they were talking about.
So you know, it's it's nothingchanges and you just gotta be you's
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gotta kind of roll with the bunches, you know, that's part of parenting.
But yeah, so it's just it'sechoes. It just sounds that just
sounds so familiar, and that's exactlywhat I've been dealing with these last couple
of months. And it kind ofbreaks my heart to it a little bit.
But you know, Alan, whenwe started this podcast, our girls
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were babies and now they're women.Yeah, I mean women, they're not
you know, yeah, I don'tknow women, but in that stage of
that life now young ladies. Yeah, it's it's monumental and it's it is,
it is, it's been. Ithas been difficult because our relationship has
definitely shifted. You talk about anI wanted to go to her room watching
Netflix and I wants to cut herroom play Minecraft, right. Um.
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She actually made a comment to methe other day, you just keep budging
this my room. Oh and youknow, like, yeah, it's it's
my house. Yeah, yeah,I play the mortgage yeah yeah. Next
question that stuff starts happening, yeah, well you know if you yeah,
and that part gets worse up untila little bit past sixteen, Um,
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where several times you'd have to say, well, you know, just you
don't want to go get your jobwhen you start and you start paying rent
and then you d you want toyou know, um, and you can
you can go to bed when youwant to, You can do whatever you
want to to your m you know. Yeah, it's that independence is hardship.
Yeah, it's not Daddy's a littlegirl as much because you still see
them. Yeah, I mean,because you still see them as four or
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five years old or six years old. Won't sitting your lap and hug and
or daddy daddy. It's different.It's different. Suddenly you know, they
want to whisper to the mom aboutsomething, or they they want to be
a little they want to be alone. Um, they suddenly or shy away
from you on certain things. That'sit's it's an odd feeling. But I
guess havn't. And it was verydifficult with Emily the first time it got
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It was easier with Lexi and thenAniston. I was just kind of ready
for him. Um, you knowyeah, because it was such a because
I can tell you with Emily itactually it was super emotional because of that
attachment. Because you if you've neverexperienced it, there's something special about daddy's
a little girl, you know,and then suddenly when they're they're own person,
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it's it's it's it's difficult. It'semotional and it's uh, the sentimentality
attached to it because your mind,your mind plays old movies about all the
little things you did, and you'rethe hero. And and suddenly you know,
maybe somebody on um, somebody onthe Hulu is their hero or their
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crush or whatever. But you know, you're not the center of your daughter's
universe anymore. And uh, ittakes some adjustment. But what I've learned
that makes it easier is you youactually still are when when they won't help,
when they're scared, when they're afraid, when they fall on hard times.
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There's a lot of times they gotto have daddy and even more than
Mama on certain things when they needto feel protected and safe, they're gonna
come to daddy. Um. Butthe emotional withdrawal and defend defining of independence
absolutely happens during this during this time, and you know, and again having
gone have gone through it twice,and now with Anniston knowing what to expect,
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um, I think just having theexpectation it made it a lot easier
because I know it's not it's notanything fundamentally that has shifted in our relationship.
That's just hormones. That's all itis, you know, just watching
them, because I still see changesin Emily and Lexei, um even you
know, being being uh their agesand whatnot. So you know, twenty
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twenty three and you know nineteen andstuff like they're twenty. Um, yeah,
you just start seeing it. Yeahit sucks, but you want them
to grow You want want to growup. Yeah yeah, well you want
them to grow up. But youwant them to grow up. That's the
thing because when they'll look back,because they'll get to a point of being
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a little bit more retrospective because youknow, kids thirteen years old, you
can't see past next two or threemonths. I mean, the future so
fuzzy. You live for the day. And it's just they're not very um
introspective or or they can get sentimental, but they want to watch Hallmark movies
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and cry over storybook romances and cryand it's you know, Anniston wasn't like
that. Aniston was like, Ihave a Tom Boys kind of person.
Now suddenly she her favorite thing todo is watch Hallmark movies and I'm like,
I think I'm gonna run my headto a wall. It's Lexi all
over again. Emily was not somuch, but LEXI just suddenly she was
(36:52):
a Hallmark lady and it was that'swhen Anniston this romance and h now that
what I high I'll just go.But it's a good thing. Does gives
as we came out the other side. And the good news is even when
you have diabetes in the mix,it's manageable. Just you know, for
that increase in in insulin and beready to respond to just those And yeah,
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I think, like I said,I think for me, at least,
the emotional mental component has proven morechallenging either than the medical implications,
just because I'm a big woos No, no, you're a good emotion.
Uh, you're a good dad.And I want to I tell you to,
A real man will show emotion.And I know that at mine and
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your age, our parents, youknow, it was a lot of times
short of a sign of weakness.Um, but you want to be strong
and not necessarily show fear, especiallyif they're scared. But if you know,
if something breaks your heart when you'replaying them. I'm bad about playing
a movie in my head. Ican even have a soundtrack. It comes
play like the notebook or something.But you know, and but it's real
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that just means you have you havea big heart, you know, a
dream sequence and all that stuff.But now but it just means yeah,
but yeah they uh, you know, it just means you have a big
heart. And it also lets themknow that, you know, Daddy loves
me. When they get out ofthe house and they come back, it's
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because I sit now and with youknow, Emily, her and Derek there
here every Sunday. Uh, bringLucas here and then moving to Taylor.
They just officially bought a house andTaylor and moving here in a couple of
weeks. Um, yeah, that'spretty cool. We got a babysitter now.
But um, not that we're thebabysitter, that's what they think.
Um, but we see it inLexey like Alexi's and she's just a different
(38:51):
person. She's coming around on thissocial media thing and you know it's,
uh, it's fun watching that partof it after you get over the well
the pain of the of there theyare growing up. But then there's you
can't let that overwhelming and miss allthe good stuff about that. Yeah,
so there are some real good thingstoo. Yeah. Well I put a
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bow around this and I'm going todo it by sharing a story I did
discipline out of for something the otherday. Maybe you should reco remember what
it was, But nonetheless, itrequired, it required that I speak to
her harshly and lay down the law. And I don't know if it's because
I'm just an emotional guy, ormaybe it's Catholic guilt, but I can
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never let these things go for morethan a couple of hours. So I
wanted to her room and she wassat on her bed reading, and I
got sat in the bed next toher, and I said, you know
time honored speech, right, thisthere's just stuff that past parents, we
have in our armory right while youlive under my roof, and you know
all the kind of you know,the classics, right, So I went
with the whole um. You know, honey, that hurts me a lot
(39:57):
more than it hurts you. AndI didn't want to have to do that,
But there are just certain things thatyou know, I just have to
discipline you over. And it's gonnabe difficult for you to understand that right
now. Believe me, I rememberwhen I was a kid, and I
remember my parents going through this withme, and I remember a feeling like
it was unjust and unfair. Isaid, but just know that I love
you. I'm always going to loveyou, and it's gonna be happy you
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to understand that right now. ButI just want for you to understand that
I am I trying to be meanand I love you with all my heart
and even when I'm disciplining you,that doesn't change. And there was a
pause and she kind of looked atme with a wry smile and said,
that was a little worst speeches you'veever given. Why, oh my gosh,
(40:43):
that's funny. I'm like, letthat one go, you know,
and that and that's funny because that'llbe one of the stories that y'all talk
about when she's older. That'll beone of them. She'll remember that.
That'll be burning her memory, lyou know, because so yeah, yeah,
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it's funny how we have those thingslocked and loaded. I tell you,
my kids would rather me, um, they'd where they much rather get
a belt whipping than a lecture.Uh, because I'm about I can lecture
um, And I'm sad, Ohmy god, that will you just whip
me, you know, or something, or please ground me? Because they're
(41:30):
just like, oh my god,because I would I would go to one
or two o'clock in the morning ifI had to, I mean, I
can just let it all out.But yeah, it's just I can vomit
words really easily, and yeah,it and just one thing at least another.
But I don't know, because Itaught for a living, I guess,
but uh, you know it's funthough. Listen watching them now and
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again, they they get it umas they get older, because that discipline,
Trent, that the things that wetold them what happened or occur,
or why we did what we didor whatnot, they know we did it
out. They they look at itbecause they get to a point where,
you know, maybe there's some littlekid doing something and well, if if
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it was me, I would tellthem the blah. And then they think
about immediately like I remember when Daddytold me that, you know, and
days they get it, and itdoes make you. It makes the relationship
stronger, not weaker. I tellyou, a dad who does not correct,
you're asking for trouble. Um.You would much rather be able to
(42:34):
have a loving talk later and kindof laugh about those times where they got
like, boy, I remember whenDaddy got on to me about so and
so, Because it does bring youcloser because they also know where you stand,
and they know that you that theycan depend on you. But if
you know, if you just letthem get away with anything, well,
you know what, how's that helpful? And so therefore when they come when
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they encountered a problem in life,or maybe they got a moral decision to
make or something crucial, you're reallynot one that they can get your opinion.
But it doesn't mean a whole lotbecause there's not anything to stand on,
you know, I don't know that'suh, you got some those boundaries
In the show notes. We'll puta link to the Naughty Electure series in
(43:19):
case of the parents want to playthose DVDs. Do it? Do it?
I tell you just and they wouldn'teven have to listen to it.
They just set their kids down here, play I'll do it. This episode
we do have well I think wehave. Yeah, we have an ending.
I can probably I can get herup here to do this. But
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putting on her monitor right now,hold on just a second, she'll get
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get her your phone in and whatyou do you want to talk about?
What she's gonna do? Hey?Anna? Hey? All right, who's
gonna have Ella make an appearance?You can say hi to her? I
mean to say, hey, areyou not in to sing? You can
come rever and say hey, doeslet me have Anna? Here's a microphone.
(45:58):
Hey, just keep it little bit. I'll say hey, hello,
Hey, hey Ella. Can youhear us? Now? Yes? I
can? All right? So,um, Well, wanted to tell you
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Merry Christmas and happy Hanka and happyQuanza and everything that y'all celebrate. And
I believe Anniston is before we cutthis episode off. I believe she was
gonna sing a little something for forChristmas, Christmas classic and h But we
wanted to see you, Ella,and you're looking pretty. We're proud of
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you. Keep growing up. Doa good girl. Don't let don't take
anything off your dad don't let himlecture you. I just can't. That
is the exact opposite. I justtold everybody. But anyway, I will
get out of Anna's frame here anduh, it's good to see you Ella.
All right, kind I saw youtake it away. Say bye Ella,
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bye bye? Okay, Oh amanger no crib for his husband.
The little Lord Jesus say down hissweet head. The stars in the sky
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look down with heing the Little LordJesus a sleep on the hay. The
kindle love look like the baby aches, but little Lord Jesus snowkinding he makes
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I love The Lord Jesus looked downfrom the sky and stand by my cradle
till morning is. And I beingyLord Jesus, I asked THEE to stay
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close by me for every I pray, the dear children in my ten care
and to us to have to livewith THEE. Oh, thank you very
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much, very good. That wasfantastic. Thank you. That was almost
as good as what I would do. Man. And now here's mark.
Nobody needs to hear that. Thatwas magnificent. What a wonderful way to
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take out our show this year.That's awesome. Thank you, Anna,
Thank you well again. Listeners,Thank you so much for staying with us
this year. Thank you for listeningto this episode of Dads and Diabetes,
Just two dads t one d KOson a podcast, trying to figure it
all out. We hope that we'vehad you figure out a little bit this
year we have you have a veryhappy Harnaker, Merry Christmas and a wonderful
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new Year. I'll speak to youall against him. Bye bye bye b
I just want to remind you,guys, this is just me and Mark
telling stories and that nothing that wesay here is intended to be medical of
bias. This is strictly from ourpoint of view as two dads telling the
stories of our T one d kiddos. We also want our listeners to know
that we try to maintain a perspectiverecognizing that whatever Alan and I or our
families are dealing with, it doesn'tamount to a hill of beans compared to
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that which our daughters or anyone diagnosedwith type one diabetes has to contend with
on a day to day basis.Welcome our listeners to Dads and Diabetes.
As you well know by now ifyou're a regular listener to the show,
we're two dads, proud dads,t kids, just trying to figure it
all out on a podcast. Tryingto figure it out on a podcast.
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Trying to figure it all out soundsbad on a live stream. Many song
I was stare on the live streamtoday. Nobody used to worry so well.
So if you could just like andcomment and all that kind of stuff
you have questions, we can hitit all live. We can actually kind
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of put it up on the screen. If you have any questions, just
type it on into the box thereand on the comment box and I can
do this and you'll be featured onhere. And yeah, you'll feel any
questions for us, feel free tojump right in. And so what is
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on the agenda today? I reallydidn't know what the name this. I
did want to say, Merry Christmasto everybody, happen and happy holidays.
I hope you have a great newyear. I'm ready for it's freaking here
to be over with. I'm prayingthat it doesn't hern like December thirty second
or something like that, because I'mso ready for twenty twenty to be done.
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But if it was going to havea thirty second, it would happen
this year. So in any case, I know that you had something in
particular you wanted to talk about,but you usually set the engine and listen.
We'll let you. I'll let youkind of get in there and do
what you do best. Yeah yeah, well yeah, Before you come onto
that, I have to say I'mhappy Harneker as well to those folks who
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celebrate Harneka. Also, I noticedAlan, you have a Christmas tree there
in the background, which is verypretty thank you. I'm in my office.
My office is very office like theexception to my soccer jersey behind me
here, so I don't have muchhere in the way Christmas decorations. But
around Christmas time I always put acouple of pictures I love of my kids
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up. I had this incredibly embarrassingpicture of my now fourteen year old son,
who is taller than I am,er than I am when he was
a toddler, in a full onSanta suit. So that's always fun.
Yeah, and then ella folks cansee this, but oh yeah, nice
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little back in the Sharing this withour worldwide audience is very cute. Thirteen
years or thirteen next month, thirteennext month. Man, they're getting big.
They are getting big. Anerton justgrowing like a weed. I'm telling
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you, buddy man, she's uhyeah, you know, just she's taught.
I think Lexi she may almost bethe same height. That's Alexei.
Now she's getting pretty close, Imean, growing like a weed, doing
doing very well. Yeah, soso Steven trut So yeah, say how
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to Stephen trut Thanks for jumping on, buddy up on holidays to you as
well. But yeah, we justwant to be happy. And healthy,
and so do you have big plansfor the holidays? I mean it's twenty
twenty, so yeah, yeah,so um, in terms of plans for
Christmas, not really. We arein Austin and the Outlaws are in Dallas,
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so we're probably gonna probably gonna headup the trail head north and go
to Dallas for a few days atsome point. Yeah, but we had
had a little bit of drama hererecently, Alan, you're gonna enjoy this.
So to start the show by justkind of catching up right before we
get into the meat of our topic. And we'll come on to the topic
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here in a few minutes. Butas far as catching up is concerned,
so I mentioned to you that eatingall back at school now, and the
school has been doing a fantastic jobof masking up social distancing contact, tracing
all of the good stuff that youwant for them to be doing. We
got a couple of instances of teacherstesting positive with COVID, and the school
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has responded very quickly. This week, however, it all came down like
a house of cards, several childrentesting positive with COVID, and then siblings
of those initial positive tests testing positivewith covies right shot, being that they're
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Their recommendation at the school was allahbe done for the year, at least
in person. She's got final examsnext week, so she'll still be working
from her bedroom. But they said, you know, it's just she wasn't
in she wasn't first contact with anyof these kids, but she was close
enough and in enough classes that itjust doesn't make sense with her being higher
risk. Ethan, however, wasevidently sat four feet from one of these
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kids for about three days. Sohe's officially upstairs right now in quarantine.
Oh really, Oh wow, Well, yeah, I'll let you know,
I understand. Yeah, that isa day to day thing. Yeah,
ours saying, you know, it'suh, it's it's it's really. It's
spreading pretty quickly here as well,you know. Thankfully, you know,
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we haven't had a ton of hospitalizationsand stuff. We do have one friend
that was kind of he's he's he'sstill in the hospital. I think he's
been in the hospital ten days.Um, yeah, but and he's doing
better. He after Uh, youknow, some the treatment it's just weird.
I don't The treatment regiments are differentdepending on where you are. If
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you're in a large hospital, ifyou're in a rural hospital and things,
they don't have to all the resources. But um, he did get some
convalescement plasma. Uh he found amatch right here in Taylor, as a
matter of fact. And um,he went from it seemed like he was
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he was going to be on anevent to really very close to being on
a ventilator to uh being up andout of the bed in about three hours.
That's how rapidly he responded to that. So you know, and but
uh, you know, after youstayed down for a the while kind of
gets you and um so praying forhim and and then um lo and behold
old Fro Jeffrey come. He testedpositive day before yesterday. Uh, he
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wouldn't. He hadn't been around.And those of you who listening to my
other podcast, it's uh I wantpromoted here. But anyway, small time
famous looks up. But he tested, he tested pausitus. I've been checking
on him every day, I haven't. I didn't call him this morning.
Yeah, I don't know if youmet Fro or not. He's uh,
he's the red necklace of all ofus. You would remember, you definitely
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remember, uh, or he wouldhave made you remember for sure, but
uh but anyways, yeah, he'suh, but he said he's doing fine.
It's just the uh, not beingable to taste is the strangest thing
to him. He thought he justhad he thought he had a sign of
infection. But man, yeah,it's just uh, it's spreading around like
it's spreading like wildfire. Um,And we've had quite a few people sick,
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but nobody um entire straits yet oranything like that. So you know,
just uh, we got to doour best and try to stay safe.
And so we're not really going tobe doing much traveling or anything like
that either. So we're here atthe house and you know, doing doing
our best. You know, itseemed like it was just Christmas. I
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spelt with me and Leslie. We'retalking about yesterday last night, went and
did some Christmas, looked at someChristmas lights. We're gonna do it again
tonight. That's kind of a tradition. And there's not too many people that
put out lights this year. It'sand I don't know, it's um,
it's like this entire year has beenon. Pauls And I was watching TV
last night and the NBA come backon in preseason I'm thinking, what didn't
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he just finish their season? Ithought, oh, yeah, it was
delayed. It's just like it's beenWe're in a time warp or some kind
of weird something. It's hard andobviously I'm a big fan of soccer and
wrapped up last night, which seemsweird, and you know it's very late
in the day. And then thePremier League in England they were absolutely how
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bent I'm starting the new season literallyas they're dost settled on the old and
so they are cramming games in ata rate of knots. And you would
think as a soccer fan, Ioh, this is great. You know,
it's just NonStop soccer. But honestly, from a fan's perspective, it's
fatiguing, and it certainly is forthe players. I mean they're starting to
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drop like flyers right now. Whenyou know, England's in the situation here,
so there's certain stadiums depend depending onwhere you are in the country allowed
up to two thousand fans. Well, these stadiums hold forty fifty sixty thousand
people, so two thousand people.Yeah, it's nut's neither here nor there.
But still it's some degree of support, but most of these games are
being played in echoe empty stadiums,you know, one game after the next,
(09:56):
and it's sort of it's difficult toreally get excited about it. We're
even seeing it is something more thanjust a practice match. Yeah, not
even being not being in there.It is like you're watching a practice even
when because I'm an NFL fan,was but it's Dallas is not doing me
any favors this year. But justthe the amount of injuries, and it's
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not just it just I don't know, the people weren't prepared. I don't
know, it's just the amount ofthe injuries this year because of I think
them pushing certain things and I don'tknow. Yeah, yeah, it's uh.
And and then the the thing Iguess that probably bothers me more than
anything is the cardboard cutouts of fansat the end. The MLB used that
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and then NFL did it, andI'm like, just get them out.
I mean, that is a it'snot a it's not an insulting, but
it feels like it. It's they'rethey're playing sounds and they're trying to guess
if the audience, if the crowdboo or yell and then you can hear
a live feed. If you goto a live feed of the of the
game, it's like they're just havingpractice. It's what it is. The
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weirdest year. Maybe maybe Baden tofix all things. So that's that's what
I'm from counting on. So theChristmas lights thing is concerned. We've had
kind of the reverse in that ourneighborhood has gone crazy. So it's lights
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on our house, which is great, and lights on the trees and whatnot.
But yeah, it's been fun.It's been from walking the neighborhood.
There are several houses here that havegone all out and it's it's nice to
see. So um. Actually,well, I have scrupted. I interrupted
my activity today to record this part. I was in the middle of doing
some baking. Well, so I'mgonna ask you a question here, Alan,
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all right, I'll do my best. The first thing comes to mind,
okay, bacon comes to food.Oh give Christmas? When I eat?
Ah? What's that one thing whenit comes out? Ginger gingerbread gingerbread.
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Um, God, there's so manycompot pacam pie. I'm trying to
think when I was a kid.Yeah, well, ginger gingerbread. Probably
it makes me think of Christmas alot, um man and for a tradition
for us is pecam pie. Soand it's really hard because Thanksgiving and Christmas
we almost do the same thing inthe South. Um and everybody has their
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traditions, but a lot of peopledo chicken and dressing on and think on
Thanksgiving and Christmas. Uh. Nowwe've switched to gumbo, um because we
got something for we got some manyLouisiana folks in the family now. But
uh yeah, probably probably gingerbread Ithink makes me think of Christmas and cocoa.
We have you know, hot cocobar kind of deal, that kind
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of stuff. Um, yeah,that's that's uh, that's that's probably you
is it? Peppermint? Is?That? Was that the answer? What
have you? Uh? Steven willbe making chocolate peppermint bars later. Ella's
going to happen with those. Actually, you know, white white alman Bart
peppermint stuff. Lex used to makethis white chocolate brittle stuff. I don't
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know out golly, yeah, there'sso many things, but really I guess
the one thing, Yeah, whatwas you? Well, well, I
mean there's lots of like you,there's lots of things. When I was
young, Um, I knew itwas Christmas because dates came out. My
grandmother she actually grew up in Egypt. Uh yeah, bring out things dates,
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and there's always nuts around. Isaw these kind of things come out
as nuts around my family too.Yeah. One thing was mince pies.
Oh my god, in the middleof making mince pies. Okay pies,
people didn't go ahead and google.It's an English thing. It's awesome.
Yeah, but I know what I'veheard of immense pie. And because I
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started to think English, but youwould have known I was been disingenuous because
I was you know, I justtried to think of every English thing that
I could have, but immense pieactually crossed my mind. Um, I
don't know what else would y'all have? No no plum drops yea, yeah,
Christmas pudding, tea and crumpets.I don't know fish and chips anyway,
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I have small yeah, so immensepie. So what is immense and
how do you kill it? It'snot meat. It's actually it's raisins,
and it's peel, and it's zestand it's um it's hard to describe,
but it's and it's encased in apastry. Uh. Has a pastry cop
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that you put the fitting into andthen has a little lid and then you
dust it with icing sugar. Folkscan go ahead and google this anyway.
That's what I'm in the middle ofmaking and idea and the excellent. So
you need to send me some man, I've never had a mince pie.
You need you need to just sendme a Keto mince pie. Well maybe
next year we can see each otheraround the season and we can take care
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of that. That would be cool. And and I have developed and I'm
about to start working on. Seethe thing I said, pecan pie.
That was always my that's my thing, uh my recipe. That's the thing
that gets hand. It's gonna behanded down to my future generations. But
I'm working on a Keto pecan pie, which is very difficult since it's basically
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corn syrup and sugar with pecan's ontop. Right, But uh, I
think I think I've got it.I'll think I've got it doing some funky
stuff with gelatin, but um,you know everything else is made in the
factory or so our lab or whatnot. But yeah, I think I actually
have a Keto pie. And it'sonly four six carbs per slice, not
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bare Africa camp. So we'll say, yeah, well it's going on to
the topic of the day, then, shall we? Sure? Yeah,
absolutely, we have been. We'vebeen waiting on this one. I've got
to say. It's it's trepidation thatI feel right now. I feel completely
unqualified to have this conversation. You, however, my friend, are supremely
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qualified. I'm not happy about it, period. I'll just not. Um.
Yeah, I think it's going toscrew the flow up of them podcast.
Um let me let him get mecut him off at the past before
we lose our listeners. So bothof our daughters have moved on to the
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next stage of their female lives Ellaas just as recently as last month.
So evidently we could have done thisepisode last month, Alan, but nobody
in the family chose to tell mewhat was going on. Oh really yeah,
So we Anna obviously went through thatstage several months ago, right yeah,
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yeah, yeah, she did,she didn't, and we were kind
of waiting on Ella. But we'refinally at that point that spot. So
why are we putting our house throughthe mill? Why are we discussing my
daughter's first period on dad's and diabetes? Well, because those of you who
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don't have daughters, or even maybetherese are you who do who aren't at
that stage yet, may not beaware that this can have a pretty significant
impact on some of what we haveto considers to blood sugar and rates of
insulin. And I will, Iwill go to my grave. You remembering
Stacy Sims telling me to stock upon insulin um. You know evidently you
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know when you go through puberty.This even impacts boy as well. And
of course her son, I thinkBenny is now fifteen, and she warned
me. She warned me it wascoming down the pike, and she was
not wrong. So anyhow, youyou went through that quickly earlier than we
did. And two other daughters aswell, older daughters, adult daughters.
Now, so why don't you youlead us off and took about Anna's experience?
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Well, um, you know,there's not much of a it's not
like we're able to tell like theirdiabetic journey. Uh, it just happened
one day, so we knew itwas coming. Huh did you I see
tell you? Oh? I meanno, when it occurs unless it was
an event. Um, with thisis my third time to have to go
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through this. So no, it'san event. I mean you the mom
kind of gets an idea that that'skind of that that's about to happen,
and you're just waiting and the andyou can you can see the change that
starts occurring in the blood sugars beforethat UM and then when it yes,
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and then when it happened because youunexplicably things that worked just stopped working.
And when it finally happens and youunderstand it's happening, and then you go
on for a few months and it'shappening and stuff. That week, you
might as well be injecting water.UM Insulin has almost no effect. I
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mean it is the we had wehad to go back to the endo to
make some adjustments and things. Andat the same time, so it throws
your body into a um, avery strange state with the way insulin is
reacting. At the same time,UM, it's also their body's changing that
has a rate on it that hasn'ta huge effect. And so it's not
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that it just youve got to beprepared for that one week. You have
to be prepared for what their bodyis now going through and what this means,
because it's going to change everything.Uh there you know, so we've
had to change basil rates and umand do a lot of different things.
So it's not just for that week. And so now things have kind of
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leveled out because it's just you haveto change levels for everything. Um,
as they grow and as they finallyhit a spot where they've plateaued for a
little while. Man, it canit can just throw things. I mean
yeah for a while. Again,the main thing is it just insolent.
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Not that didn't have an effect.You just had to really dose hard.
Then. Um, you may havea week where and this happened just I
think last month or a few weeksago, she would start dropping in one
night she dropped down below four.Well it just the pump said, uh,
the sensor just said low. Andthat rarely happens. And yeah,
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so we're having to you know,that was happening for man, it happened
almost for the entire week where shewould drop into the forties. Uh,
she would drop into the low fiftiesand high forties. And you're like,
what are you doing? That seemscountries what you were saying about what that's
what I'm saying. No, that'swhat I'm saying. Is that at first
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it was like giving insulument was likewater, and then now she's plateaued after
changing buzz of rates and going tothe indoor, doing all this stuff,
and then suddenly, that's what I'msaying, just about just a few weeks
ago, this is the first timeit's happened. Suddenly she just starts dropping
like crazy because the insulin the bodyseems to be responding to the incident like
it did. So, Yeah,I don't know if this is a very
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favorable topic because we went from six. We went from six to two.
As soon as we start talking aboutthis, viewers, Uh, we we
told you for years. But youknow, but it gets interesting, especially
from a dad's perspective, uh,because you're it's more of a it's a
mom thing, you know, andum and UM, I don't know,
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it's you know, it's just reallyhard to uh um as far as what
we have to do other than managingcraziness. Um. And from a guy's
perspective of just dealing with that anyway. Now, I imagine when you know,
I think thankfully and Emily and Lexiebeing married in now the house,
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I could imagine having an all fourat the same time. Uh, me
and Tag would probably go stay ina hotel, I would imagine. So
I think the thing is interesting tome is again you know you by your
an old hand at this that's whatthey say. This is my one and
only I hope not saying that,you know, kind of a detrogatory fashion.
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And I have one daughter. I'mnot intending on having any more kids.
So so I don't know what Iexpected. I suppose more of a
hoopler. I expected at least tonotified the period. Police didn't call you.
Yeah, it was very matter offact. And I literally had to
say to him, so has thishappened? And she's like, oh,
yeah, yeah it was last month. What at all the while, Yeah,
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I'm wrestling with with with basil rates. Oh wow, yeah that's something
now I particid have talked about.We had to sell ubatory dinner. It
wasn't as though everything was hunky dory, and then all of a sudden,
the basil rates were all over theplace. For us. It was a
steady climb and then I kind ofwe hit like a week where again,
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she could have been I was joking, she could have been taking showers in
insulin. It would make no difference. Yeah, yeah, I said to
him, I'm like, has thisgone down? Is this the thing?
Now? Did you know she hitPubert scene? She's like, oh yeah
yeah last month. Oh okay,Um, I can't believe it's gonna come
and tell you. I don't knowI'm talking about I'm talking about knowing about
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Ella. That's I'm totally joking ifAnniston knew, if Anniston supermaster about it.
I mean, it's it's so funny. Even she's even like making jokes
with her brother. Yeah, thetwo that are joking about it or what
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it's like nothing to her? Whatkind of jokes? Give me a good
joke? Just what is this?I would have thought she'd be very shy
and coy and resilve and embarrassed.But no, well, well I think
it is some kim prime to whileI'm imagining. Sure, but also it's
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see it's also a kind of aride of passage because when if like Anniston
maybe was a little bit later thansomething friends or which she was, and
maybe somewhere you know. So Ijust remember with Emily and Lexei and going
through this that not that they wouldbe teased, but it was like us,
like it's a topic every day whenschool life is normal of hey,
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is that happened yet? Does ithappened yet? And that sort of stuff.
And so then they're to their friendsand their mom they're actually they're proud
of it, you know, like, hey, I've reached this stage.
I'm growing up, because you know, when you're when you're a kid,
you want to grow up fast andat But to a dat, you know,
just talking to a dad about it, it's kind of weird. But
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yeah, around here, it's justkind of uh, I don't know.
It was something that was immediately sharedand talked about, and like, you
know, I didn't have a talkwith her like sit her down, like
let me explain to you what's goingon and not not like that. It's
just she it was like, hey, reached that point, and she was
kind of cold and shy about it, and but she smiled because to her
it is a mastone. You know, they're grown up. She's grown up.
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What's interesting is I think it bringsit brings it home to you and
I that we do. You know, boys don't I mean obviously boys don't
have that, but also boys don'thave that definitive moment, right, I
mean when we hit pubert either areseveral things that happened. Typically, you
know, hair starts to appear,voices starting to get deeper. This,
I got this weird English accent whenI hit Puberty's yeah, I used to
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talking to me a Western accent.I don't my whole life or something like
this. Now you got you gotthe cool puberty. Why couldn't they had
an Australian accent? That would havebeen awesome. But it's progressive, right,
and so obviously what girls go through. There's a very definitive line in
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the sand. But I suppose that'swhat from a diabetes perspective, That's what
I guess kind of surprised me,is I expected for there to be a
or responding line in the sand whereby, you know, in this space.
It was sort of twenty four thirtysix, forty eight hours, all of
a sudden, things when Haywire andI was scrambling around her chicking with this
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headcut off, like what the heck'sgoing on here? But it wasn't.
It was. It was progressive,which I suppose makes sense. But I
guess that's all I would share withour listeners, you know, those who
preparing to go through that or youknow, have much younger girls. You
know, one day this will happen. Everyone's experience is going to be a
little different. I get that,but for us at least, it was
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very much a ramp up. Now, I will say that we did a
little di y when it came tobase or rates because I just felt like
I had to, you know,I just needed to get that. You
know, we talked about last month, Allen. I needed to get in
the middle of it and just takecare of things, and without blowing my
own horn too aggressively, I thinkI did. I think I did a
really good job of adjusting rates andwhatnot. She went actually had her latest
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end over the last week, andthey actually backed rates off a little bit
because I think Homemen's trying to settledown a little bit now. And then
just like she was getting too muchinsulin. Yeah, um or anyone.
He was great and her rates werejust about where they needed to be.
So, you know, back inAustin again, I guess good. Yeah,
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And that's what I would say forfolks that this wouldn't apply to,
but it is important when that whenthat happens. Um. Just even though
because we had taught and you saidthat her stuff has been kind of out
of whack, and so she hadalready reached that point in time. You
didn't know it, but you know, sometimes you're gonna it's gonna be shared
with you. Sometime it's not andstuff. But um, physically it's there's
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it's pretty consistent in what I'm hearing. Again, you didn't know. I
knew, and we watched to seewhat was going to happen, and and
they basically had the same kind ofphysical reaction it's insolence like water, um.
And then they settled down, andso you know, it's so I
I think there's some commonality there.Uh, and just be prepared because you
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should never know when it's going tohappen, you know, but being being
ready for it visited in the endthough, because you will have to adjust
some basil rates. They didn't knowwhat's going on, so you can have
that backing for sure. All Right, So this really has nothing to do
with diabetes. But as we're onthis sticky subject, but have genous to
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talk about, um, much ofwhat we discussed has been around physiology.
Yeah, let's branch out for amoment into psychology. Okay, it's just
nothing to do with diabetes. Buthey, I've got your on the line,
and maybe other dad's listening to this. They're curious, Um, what
if any impact have you seen withAnna in that regard? You think you
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mentioned to me. I don't wantto portray a confidence. I can't remember
this was on Michael off Mike,but I think you had mentioned an increase
in SaaS. Oh yeah, yeah, No, I think it's probably was.
It probably was on out off cameraor phone. But you know,
there's uh, there's been a yeah, there's been a psychological change, emotional
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change. Um. Uh as faras behavior, you know, just the
I've noticed her getting in she getsa little bit of hot water with Mama,
a little bit more um and alittle bit sass year because you know,
they're I can see the looking forindependence a little bit more. She's
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able to she wants to not beby herself or whatnot. But she you
know, she's just very content togo to hang out room and watch Netflix,
where before she'd want to just hangout with mom or something or dad
or something like that. I don'tyou can tell she's growing up. No
interests have changed. And you know, I'm talking to my boys more and
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and and that's become a big thing, so her and talking to her sisters
a lot more war um and thebut the sassiness. Yeah, the the
um um huffing and puffing, andyou know, you know, all of
them kind of get to that pointwhere they don't know. Not not that
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we're stupid, not that we're stupidor anything, but they will get that,
uh you know, give you thestink eye a little bit or and
they'll testra boundaries and it's just themgrowing into who they are. And yeah,
well it's just because all it isis just growing into their independence and
just we all did it. Andmen, you didn't have a period,
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but we just all did it.Um. You you realize that, uh
you know, you reach that pointwhere you know your parents were heroes and
they know everything and then suddenly theydon't. And then you gotta wait till
for about ten years and they realizedthey didn't know what they were talking about.
So you know, it's it's nothingchanges and you just gotta be you's
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gotta kind of roll with the bunches, you know, that's part of parenting.
But yeah, so it's just it'sechoes. It just sounds that just
sounds so familiar, and that's exactlywhat I've been dealing with these last couple
of months. And it kind ofbreaks my heart to it a little bit.
But you know, Alan, whenwe started this podcast, our girls
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were babies and now they're women.Yeah, I mean women, they're not
you know, yeah, I don'tknow women, but in that stage of
that life now young ladies. Yeah, it's it's monumental and it's it is,
it is, it's been. Ithas been difficult because our relationship has
definitely shifted. You talk about anI wanted to go to her room watching
Netflix and I wants to cut herroom play Minecraft, right. Um.
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She actually made a comment to methe other day, you just keep budging
this my room. Oh and youknow, like, yeah, it's it's
my house. Yeah, yeah,I play the mortgage yeah yeah. Next
question that stuff starts happening, yeah, well you know if you yeah,
and that part gets worse up untila little bit past sixteen, Um,
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where several times you'd have to say, well, you know, just you
don't want to go get your jobwhen you start and you start paying rent
and then you d you want toyou know, um, and you can
you can go to bed when youwant to, You can do whatever you
want to to your m you know. Yeah, it's that independence is hardship.
Yeah, it's not Daddy's a littlegirl as much because you still see
them. Yeah, I mean,because you still see them as four or
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five years old or six years old. Won't sitting your lap and hug and
or daddy daddy. It's different.It's different. Suddenly you know, they
want to whisper to the mom aboutsomething, or they they want to be
a little they want to be alone. Um, they suddenly or shy away
from you on certain things. That'sit's it's an odd feeling. But I
guess havn't. And it was verydifficult with Emily the first time it got
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It was easier with Lexi and thenAniston. I was just kind of ready
for him. Um, you knowyeah, because it was such a because
I can tell you with Emily itactually it was super emotional because of that
attachment. Because you if you've neverexperienced it, there's something special about daddy's
a little girl, you know,and then suddenly when they're they're own person,
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it's it's it's it's difficult. It'semotional and it's uh, the sentimentality
attached to it because your mind,your mind plays old movies about all the
little things you did, and you'rethe hero. And and suddenly you know,
maybe somebody on um, somebody onthe Hulu is their hero or their
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crush or whatever. But you know, you're not the center of your daughter's
universe anymore. And uh, ittakes some adjustment. But what I've learned
that makes it easier is you youactually still are when when they won't help,
when they're scared, when they're afraid, when they fall on hard times.
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There's a lot of times they gotto have daddy and even more than
Mama on certain things when they needto feel protected and safe, they're gonna
come to daddy. Um. Butthe emotional withdrawal and defend defining of independence
absolutely happens during this during this time, and you know, and again having
gone have gone through it twice,and now with Anniston knowing what to expect,
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um, I think just having theexpectation it made it a lot easier
because I know it's not it's notanything fundamentally that has shifted in our relationship.
That's just hormones. That's all itis, you know, just watching
them, because I still see changesin Emily and Lexei, um even you
know, being being uh their agesand whatnot. So you know, twenty
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twenty three and you know nineteen andstuff like they're twenty. Um, yeah,
you just start seeing it. Yeahit sucks, but you want them
to grow You want want to growup. Yeah yeah, well you want
them to grow up. But youwant them to grow up. That's the
thing because when they'll look back,because they'll get to a point of being
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a little bit more retrospective because youknow, kids thirteen years old, you
can't see past next two or threemonths. I mean, the future so
fuzzy. You live for the day. And it's just they're not very um
introspective or or they can get sentimental, but they want to watch Hallmark movies
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and cry over storybook romances and cryand it's you know, Anniston wasn't like
that. Aniston was like, Ihave a Tom Boys kind of person.
Now suddenly she her favorite thing todo is watch Hallmark movies and I'm like,
I think I'm gonna run my headto a wall. It's Lexi all
over again. Emily was not somuch, but LEXI just suddenly she was
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a Hallmark lady and it was that'swhen Anniston this romance and h now that
what I high I'll just go.But it's a good thing. Does gives
as we came out the other side. And the good news is even when
you have diabetes in the mix,it's manageable. Just you know, for
that increase in in insulin and beready to respond to just those And yeah,
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I think, like I said,I think for me, at least,
the emotional mental component has proven morechallenging either than the medical implications,
just because I'm a big woos No, no, you're a good emotion.
Uh, you're a good dad.And I want to I tell you to,
A real man will show emotion.And I know that at mine and
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your age, our parents, youknow, it was a lot of times
short of a sign of weakness.Um, but you want to be strong
and not necessarily show fear, especiallyif they're scared. But if you know,
if something breaks your heart when you'replaying them. I'm bad about playing
a movie in my head. Ican even have a soundtrack. It comes
play like the notebook or something.But you know, and but it's real
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that just means you have you havea big heart, you know, a
dream sequence and all that stuff.But now but it just means yeah,
but yeah they uh, you know, it just means you have a big
heart. And it also lets themknow that, you know, Daddy loves
me. When they get out ofthe house and they come back, it's
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because I sit now and with youknow, Emily, her and Derek there
here every Sunday. Uh, bringLucas here and then moving to Taylor.
They just officially bought a house andTaylor and moving here in a couple of
weeks. Um, yeah, that'spretty cool. We got a babysitter now.
But um, not that we're thebabysitter, that's what they think.
Um, but we see it inLexey like Alexi's and she's just a different
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person. She's coming around on thissocial media thing and you know it's,
uh, it's fun watching that partof it after you get over the well
the pain of the of there theyare growing up. But then there's you
can't let that overwhelming and miss allthe good stuff about that. Yeah,
so there are some real good thingstoo. Yeah. Well I put a
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bow around this and I'm going todo it by sharing a story I did
discipline out of for something the otherday. Maybe you should reco remember what
it was, But nonetheless, itrequired, it required that I speak to
her harshly and lay down the law. And I don't know if it's because
I'm just an emotional guy, ormaybe it's Catholic guilt, but I can
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never let these things go for morethan a couple of hours. So I
wanted to her room and she wassat on her bed reading, and I
got sat in the bed next toher, and I said, you know
time honored speech, right, thisthere's just stuff that past parents, we
have in our armory right while youlive under my roof, and you know
all the kind of you know,the classics, right, So I went
with the whole um. You know, honey, that hurts me a lot
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more than it hurts you. AndI didn't want to have to do that,
But there are just certain things thatyou know, I just have to
discipline you over. And it's gonnabe difficult for you to understand that right
now. Believe me, I rememberwhen I was a kid, and I
remember my parents going through this withme, and I remember a feeling like
it was unjust and unfair. Isaid, but just know that I love
you. I'm always going to loveyou, and it's gonna be happy you
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to understand that right now. ButI just want for you to understand that
I am I trying to be meanand I love you with all my heart
and even when I'm disciplining you,that doesn't change. And there was a
pause and she kind of looked atme with a wry smile and said,
that was a little worst speeches you'veever given. Why, oh my gosh,
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that's funny. I'm like, letthat one go, you know,
and that and that's funny because that'llbe one of the stories that y'all talk
about when she's older. That'll beone of them. She'll remember that.
That'll be burning her memory, lyou know, because so yeah, yeah,
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it's funny how we have those thingslocked and loaded. I tell you,
my kids would rather me, um, they'd where they much rather get
a belt whipping than a lecture.Uh, because I'm about I can lecture
um, And I'm sad, Ohmy god, that will you just whip
me, you know, or something, or please ground me? Because they're
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just like, oh my god,because I would I would go to one
or two o'clock in the morning ifI had to, I mean, I
can just let it all out.But yeah, it's just I can vomit
words really easily, and yeah,it and just one thing at least another.
But I don't know, because Itaught for a living, I guess,
but uh, you know it's funthough. Listen watching them now and
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again, they they get it umas they get older, because that discipline,
Trent, that the things that wetold them what happened or occur,
or why we did what we didor whatnot, they know we did it
out. They they look at itbecause they get to a point where,
you know, maybe there's some littlekid doing something and well, if if
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it was me, I would tellthem the blah. And then they think
about immediately like I remember when Daddytold me that, you know, and
days they get it, and itdoes make you. It makes the relationship
stronger, not weaker. I tellyou, a dad who does not correct,
you're asking for trouble. Um.You would much rather be able to
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have a loving talk later and kindof laugh about those times where they got
like, boy, I remember whenDaddy got on to me about so and
so, Because it does bring youcloser because they also know where you stand,
and they know that you that theycan depend on you. But if
you know, if you just letthem get away with anything, well,
you know what, how's that helpful? And so therefore when they come when
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they encountered a problem in life,or maybe they got a moral decision to
make or something crucial, you're reallynot one that they can get your opinion.
But it doesn't mean a whole lotbecause there's not anything to stand on,
you know, I don't know that'suh, you got some those boundaries
In the show notes. We'll puta link to the Naughty Electure series in
(43:19):
case of the parents want to playthose DVDs. Do it? Do it?
I tell you just and they wouldn'teven have to listen to it.
They just set their kids down here, play I'll do it. This episode
we do have well I think wehave. Yeah, we have an ending.
I can probably I can get herup here to do this. But
before while we do that, beforewe do that, we need to do
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our sponsors real quick. Um.Yeah, bring those in, um,
And was lecturing down you see howI cut across in your fitness? Hey,
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That's Gluco's revival dot com. Allright, so Anna is here and she's
putting on her monitor right now,hold on just a second, she'll get
(45:36):
get her your phone in and whatyou do you want to talk about?
What she's gonna do? Hey?Anna? Hey? All right, who's
gonna have Ella make an appearance?You can say hi to her? I
mean to say, hey, areyou not in to sing? You can
come rever and say hey, doeslet me have Anna? Here's a microphone.
(45:58):
Hey, just keep it little bit. I'll say hey, hello,
Hey, hey Ella. Can youhear us? Now? Yes? I
can? All right? So,um, Well, wanted to tell you
(46:19):
Merry Christmas and happy Hanka and happyQuanza and everything that y'all celebrate. And
I believe Anniston is before we cutthis episode off. I believe she was
gonna sing a little something for forChristmas, Christmas classic and h But we
wanted to see you, Ella,and you're looking pretty. We're proud of
(46:42):
you. Keep growing up. Doa good girl. Don't let don't take
anything off your dad don't let himlecture you. I just can't. That
is the exact opposite. I justtold everybody. But anyway, I will
get out of Anna's frame here anduh, it's good to see you Ella.
All right, kind I saw youtake it away. Say bye Ella,
(47:06):
bye bye? Okay, Oh amanger no crib for his husband.
The little Lord Jesus say down hissweet head. The stars in the sky
(47:34):
look down with heing the Little LordJesus a sleep on the hay. The
kindle love look like the baby aches, but little Lord Jesus snowkinding he makes
(48:06):
I love The Lord Jesus looked downfrom the sky and stand by my cradle
till morning is. And I beingyLord Jesus, I asked THEE to stay
(48:34):
close by me for every I pray, the dear children in my ten care
and to us to have to livewith THEE. Oh, thank you very
(49:04):
much, very good. That wasfantastic. Thank you. That was almost
as good as what I would do. Man. And now here's mark.
Nobody needs to hear that. Thatwas magnificent. What a wonderful way to
(49:24):
take out our show this year.That's awesome. Thank you, Anna,
Thank you well again. Listeners,Thank you so much for staying with us
this year. Thank you for listeningto this episode of Dads and Diabetes,
Just two dads t one d KOson a podcast, trying to figure it
all out. We hope that we'vehad you figure out a little bit this
year we have you have a veryhappy Harnaker, Merry Christmas and a wonderful
(49:47):
new Year. I'll speak to youall against him. Bye bye bye b
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