March 19, 2025 • 13 mins
Johnny Mac delves into Bert Kreischer's reflections on touring, fan interactions, and his latest comedy special. Kreischer discusses the comedic and musical aspirations shared by comedians and rock stars. Andrew Schulz talks about his transition from YouTube to Netflix, explaining how content consumption changed post-COVID. The episode also covers various comedians' views on live performances, the impact of podcasts, and streaming platforms. Plus, insights into Mo Amer's show about Palestinian life, Zach Zimmerman's debut special, and upcoming events involving Susie Eddie Izzard and Andy Marie Tillman. Ending with a reminder to enjoy an ad-free podcast experience with Caloroga Shark Media.
00:00 I Bert Kreischer's Fan Experience
00:48 Comedians and Their Rock Star Aspirations
01:23 Bert Kreischer's Special and Family Insights
03:12 Andrew Schulz on Streaming Platforms and Comedy
06:55 Bill Burr's Therapy and Comedy Reflections
08:48 Mo Amer's Show and Palestinian Representation
09:36 Tom Papa's Touring Tales and New Comedy Specials
12:02 Andy Marie Tillman's Social Media Success
13:16 Conclusion and Subscription Information
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00:00 I Bert Kreischer's Fan Experience
00:48 Comedians and Their Rock Star Aspirations
01:23 Bert Kreischer's Special and Family Insights
03:12 Andrew Schulz on Streaming Platforms and Comedy
06:55 Bill Burr's Therapy and Comedy Reflections
08:48 Mo Amer's Show and Palestinian Representation
09:36 Tom Papa's Touring Tales and New Comedy Specials
12:02 Andy Marie Tillman's Social Media Success
13:16 Conclusion and Subscription Information
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Callaroga Shark Media. Hi there, I'm Johnny Mack with your
daily comedy news. Burt Kreischer. Did you enjoy his special?
He was talking to Variety sold a cool story. I
was walking in Savannah, Georgia one time before playing the arena,
and I saw my fans partying before the show down
by the river. I was jealous. I was like, dude,
(00:24):
I want to be with them, and I think they
know it. I love getting into stuff and being a
fan of something. I love discovering something and then becoming
obsessed with it and buying tickets for me and ten friends, like, Hey,
have you guys heard of the Red City Strays. They're
coming to town. They're about to be a new favorite band.
I bring all the comics, Shane Gillis, Mark Norman, Big,
Jay Ogerson, my wife, my whole team, six of my friends.
I get his tickets. We saw Jimmy Buffett, we saw Goose,
(00:44):
we saw Wilco. So I'm lucky to have fans that
are like me. Variety talked about that cliche that rock
stars want to be actors and actors want to be
rock stars. Back when I was working at Serious, I
remember comedians were in the mix, there was it. The
comedians wanted to be rock stars, and the rock stars
wanted to be actors, and the actors want to be comedians.
I think that was the triangle anyway, Bert, do you
feel that way about live music? Bert said, oh yeah,
(01:07):
I'd love to be able to just have a set
list that I know is going to murder instead of
going up at the comedy store trying to figure it out.
You could play your hits for years. Look at Creed,
they're doing stadiums now. I think all comedians wish they
were rock stars. We all wish we were taken seriously
and sexy. We're goofballs. Ironically, the sexiest thing about us
is that we're not sexy at all. At the beginning
of this special Spoilers, Bert rips his shirt off and
throws it in the air and it lands perfectly on
(01:28):
the mic. They were curious how many times on tour
did that workout versus not? And Bert said, it never worked.
That's why you could see the look on my face
as sheer exuberance. We had that ridiculous outfit made because
I noticed in all my specials I'm wearing the exact
same thing, jeans, and no shirts, so they all look identical.
Netflix would brand my specials with different outfits on the
thumbnail to draw people in, but then I'd be in jeans,
so I wanted to have a VERSACEI Miami style suit made.
(01:50):
The taping was special, if I'm not mistaken, we use
the entire set front to back from that taping. With comedy,
you can get a little bit of magic. That's why
crowd work is so fun. When my shirt landed on
the mic, everyone went crazy. We had one taping where
someone out a stroke, so we're not gonna use that one.
Oh that's awful. They were curious about how he works
in his family, and Bert said, I write everything in
the hopes that my daughters and wife will like it.
(02:11):
Land saw the act a couple of times. It definitely
had notes and doing that material. There was a certain
point in my act where it became less jovial. It
wasn't coming across the right way, and she had a
note about that. She was like, all I need is
a little bit of Rascal smile on your face. You're
doing it so much that you're losing that. Remember the
way you did it the first time. Great note from
Leanne similar discussion between Samarl and WAMC, who said, when
(02:32):
a rock band goes out on tour, people just want
to hear the old stuff. With comics, it's the opposite.
Sam said, yeah, I was just watching that Bob Dylan movie.
The big scene is that he wants to shake things
up and go electric, and he's like, yeah, screw you,
I'm going in electric and it was so funny that, Like,
no disrespect to musicians, but boy, they have it easy,
especially the big ones. You know, obviously if you're struggling musician,
having a middle class lifestyle as a musician's probably harder
(02:53):
than a comic. I think they're the easier trajectory. But
then if you're like Billy Joel, you're like, oh, I
don't have to write for forty years. That's incredible. Topic
of podcasts came up and how every comedian has one.
Sam said, I think the problem is there's so many
things you have to do. Remember years ago, David tell
told me like enjoying now when all you do is
wake up and write jokes, and he was right. But
now it's very hard for me to find time to
work on my act. The hollyw reporter asked Andrew Schultz,
(03:14):
you have a lot of success, why don't you just
post on YouTube? Schultz said, I did the first Netflix
special during COVID, and that was just based on these
turn your phone videos that I do. And the last
one I did where we sold it ourselves, was really
supposed to be on Amazon, but they gave me push
back about a couple jokes, and I don't even blame them.
I'm like, hey, you're a billion dollar company that sells
toilet paper. Why would you risk tarnishing your brand over
my Michael Jackson take or whatever the joke was. So
(03:36):
my initial idea was to do that one with the
streamer and see how that worked and see if that
brought it in a different audience, etc. But then people
were able to rally behind me and that was pretty sick,
all right, So why go Netflix this time? Schultz explains
there was a time during COVID when people were so
engaged online with creators where we were buying these live
moments and live events, and it became part of what
we did because there was so little content out there.
(03:56):
Then the second that COVID ended, the studio started pumping
stuff back out and people were like, all right, I
don't need to buy that little moment. I'll just watch
Severance on TV. Culture changed in the way we consumed
in my estination, So I was like, yeah, I think
it makes sense to go over here to Netflix. But
one of the cool things is that I had a
number that I could do on my own, meaning I
knew how much I could generate. No comic really knows
their worth. You just think of a number, you go, Okay,
(04:16):
Chapelle got that, But I had a number having had
that experience on my own. But even then, in order
to get an offer, you need another offer. That's the
other thing I realized about this business. Rody asked him
about all the various streamers getting into the business. Hi,
Hulu public says, how you guys doing today? You know
you don't have to answer, It's fine. Schultz said, this
is the best thing that can happen for comedians. I'm
putting this special on Netflix, but every comedian should be
(04:37):
rooting for Hulu right now. They should be rooting for Amazon.
My dog is apparently rooting for Amazon. I can never
tell if the directional Mike picks up the dog, but
she's barking, which is a story I recently did an
industry podcast, and I asked my wife, I'm like, can
you just take the dogs for an hour? Because I
need to seem like an industry professional. It's one thing
when I'm doing my own silly comedy podcast, I can
(04:58):
reference the dogs or make a bit out of it.
When I'm trying to come across as guy that owns
podcasting company, I need to be an adult and I
can't have crazy dogs. I was on a job or
interview lately and an online teaching course was looking for
me to teach a class about podcasting. In the middle
of it, the dogs went bananas, and like, I'm texting
her on the side, so it's a zoom call and
I'm trying to keep eye contact with the person interviewing me,
(05:20):
and I'm texting her like with my phone, blow the camera,
like will you get rid of the bleeping dogs? And
she ignored my texts. So it was very embarrassing. I digress.
Andrew Schultz said every comedian should be rooting for Hulu
right now. They should be rooting for Amazon because the
more people out there, the more competitive they have to be.
We created a competitor in YouTube, and what I think
that partly did is it loosen the constraints? Netflix has
(05:42):
always been good with putting out content, not censoring, but
it made comics go, oh, I could potentially get more
for myself, not even money wise, just to get more
reach on YouTube. I often tell comics that are younger
in the game, putting your stuff out on YouTube and
clipping the whole thing and putting it out everywhere before
anybody knows about you is more beneficial for you. Variety variety, push,
and the stamp of approval then Netflix seemingly provides. Doesn't
(06:03):
outweigh that, Schultz said, I think it depends where you
are in your career. I think early on people want
to find you. If somebody sees you at Madison Square Garden,
they're gonna be like, oh, he's popping. We don't want
to feel part of that discovery because you represent their dreams.
Good follow up A few years ago, apparently Andrew on
Rogan's show said Netflix is done. Andrew explained awestly anything,
it's why he can't take me too. Seriously, Ry was
curious if that impacted the negotiation. I'll answer having worked
(06:25):
at companies, and I haven't even read his answer yet.
Talent wins. If somebody wants to be in business, you
could throw pies on the boss's face. And if they
think there's money to be made off somebody, they'll work
with somebody. Let's see what Andrew said. Oh, that didn't matter.
They don't care. They're in the business of putting out
the best comedy and they want to make sure it's
on their platform. Yep. So they're not gonna let me
say Netflix is dead. Before the last special I put
(06:47):
out get in the way of me going to Hulu
or Amazon. They were right by the way. I thought
I was right, though, I was like, how can they
win this race? Everything's going to be on YouTube? But
they figured it out. Man Bill Burr was on Terry
Gross's show last week. He was doing some therapy. It
sounds like he said, I'd get off stage and just
feel like, God, what was that? What was that? That
didn't feel good? Meaning the laughter, even though the response
was good, it just kind of felt like it didn't
(07:08):
feel good. It was gross. It's just dark, ugly, just
plain hurt, just coming out the wrong way. Where it's
so funny because some comedians that I love the most,
the way they process their pain was a very empathetic
short way, which I'd say Richard Prye was the king
of that. He just really had this ability of talking
about his mistakes that he made in a way that
you could see that it bothered him that he did
some of these things, and it also made you root
for him, Like I felt like that was the biggest
thing I had as far as being a fan of
(07:29):
his work was beyond finding it hilarious and jaw droppingly brilliant,
was that I found I was rooting for him in
his personal life as he was going through all these
marriages and vorcees and problems with the cops and abuse
and lighting himself on fire. Like you know, I love
the guy, and I was just hoping he was going
to find peace. Where my comedy act right now is
I'm trying to get regular people to stop yelling at
each other. I talked about that last week. Remember when
Billy Corgan showed up on Howie Mandel's podcast and they
(07:52):
started floating the conspiracy theory that Billy and Bill Burr
are brothers? Was it a bit? Is Billy Corgan for real?
Apparently he for real? He told people it was one
of those rare moments where I think all three of
us really didn't know where it was going. And you
see that, and that's what makes it sort of interesting.
There's enough energy there. That's why it's not a bit,
because it's really about confronting something in a way that
(08:12):
none of us really knew what that confrontation would lead to.
And you see it play out. You see jokes, but
you also see like, oh, there's something there. A really
good friend of mine said to me, all right, tell
me the truth, and I said, I don't think so.
I don't think we're related. And then my friend said, well,
I think you are, and I said, well, I guess
it's possible, because it really does look like my father
in a way that's almost shocking to me. So then
my friend goes, we'll get a DNA test. No word
(08:33):
on a DNA test yet, or if Bill Burr would
be interested in that. Corgan said, it's taken out a
life of its own. It's sort of strange. It really
started from honest things, which are my father may have
fathered twelve other children, and the facts of Bill's life
actually do match the story that I was told. So
there's no invention there. MOA Mayer talked to the BBC
for his show. He said he wanted to keep the
greater context in mine and didn't want to focus on
(08:55):
October seventh and its aftermath because that almost insinuates that
this just started. Mo explains that couldn't be farther from
the truth. He spoke about the final episode, which I
won't spoil. Originally it was sixty minutes long and they
cut it down to thirty nine. He says it was
almost like we filmed a movie. He wanted to cover
the main strokes, which included how difficult it can be
to enter and live as a Palestinian. Once over there,
(09:17):
Mo explains, immediately, you're not on vacation, You're on edge. Actually,
he says he can't walk away from being seen as
a spokesperson for Palestinians. I think everyone just needs to
manage their expectations. But I'm not going to shy away
from it. Those that agree with me or disagree with me.
It's important to continue the dialogue and have a conversation.
He has that he's always hopeful that things can get better.
Seattle Magazine caught up with Tom Papa the topic touring
(09:40):
and when he toured you get some weird meals. What's
the most depressing tour meal you've had, Tom? Papa Tom said,
what's depressing is when you're in some hotels and you
see they have room service, so you get room service,
which seems like a good plan because of the timing.
You know, I got to get to the show. I'm
coming home late, or at least they have room service.
And then they show up my door with a paper
bag with the room service in it. It's a leftover
from COVID. I'm like, oh, I thought it was actually
(10:01):
going to eat and now I'm just burrowing through the
trash looking for food. Zach Zimmerman will premiere their debut
comedy special, Surprise Me, on April twenty seconds. Zach has
been hailed as a rising star by The New York
Times and was named in Vultures Comedians You Should Will Know.
Filmed at the Bellhouse in Brooklyn, Zach takes a look
at the definition of love across evangelical Trump trained family members,
(10:22):
Romance gone Wrong, and Donuts Done Right. You won me
over at Donuts. The special is described as sweet and salty.
I see what you're doing there. It'll be on YouTube Tuesday,
April twenty second, eight pm Eastern. Surprise Me will also
be available as an album. Johnny Mack likes when people
put things out as albums. Out tomorrow on Amazon if
(10:44):
you're in the right geographic location. I don't think this
will air in the States, John, Why are you talking
about it? Because John likes Jimmy Carr, who's the host
of Amazon's Last One Laughing. Hopefully they show it here.
On Last One Laughing, comedians are put into a reality
TV style house, and chill should keep a straight face
while other contestants try to make them laugh. Jimmy says
the format plays into stand up strengths, as we're competitive
(11:06):
and we don't like our colleagues to be funny. It's
strange should be working for Amazon, a soulist, capitalist, dubious
money making machine, but Amazon still thought I was the
man for the job. Last One Laughing is based on
a Japanese game show, prompting Jimmy to joke. Amazon are
continuing their policy of supplying cheap knockoffs from Asia. Some
of the contestants names you may know include Richard Ayoade.
(11:29):
He didn't watch the show at the screening. He chose
to read a book. Trotle tells us the book is
Absolute Beginners by Colin McInnes. Richard said, I still haven't
seen it because of psychological problems, but well done everyone.
I have a strong policy about seeing my own face,
and it's a no for me. Richard Liken the show
to a hostage situation, Last One Laughing on Amazon tomorrow,
(11:49):
depending where you live. Susie Eddie Hazzard is going to
tour Shakespeare this fall September thirteenth through November fifth. His
art will perform Hamlet. Not really comedy, but I thought
it was an interesting item. Took fifteen seconds for me
to tell you. A Nashville scene caught up with Andy
Marie Tillman two and a half years ago. She began
posting clips to social media and the guys of various
(12:10):
original characters. They became a hit. Tillman has around five
hundred and seventy three thousand followers on TikTok another four
hundred and sixty nine thousand on Insta thanks to characters
like Papa, who's an ornery, overalls clad Appalachian, Pam, who's
your southern aunt who's prone to oversharing, and I love
this Nashvaratu, a Countree count count Country Countree musician and
(12:35):
vampire trying to fit into the Nashville scene but having
a rough go. I love that as a premise, Tillman says,
you know, maybe, perhaps possibly it's been inspired by some
of her family. She says, my family takes bets on
who's who, so all of them think they're everybody, and
I think they like the down home kind of stuff.
Nashvaratu was too weird for them. They're like, I don't
get the vampire stuff. You'd probably do better if you
(12:56):
did more, Papa, that'd probably launched you somewhere else. I'm like, okay,
don't need the no. She said, when the check started
coming in, I was able to quit cleaning houses the
thirty hours a week that I was happy to do
that to make the ends meet. And then I thought,
all right, maybe this social media thing isn't so bad.
There's something about getting a check that just makes everything.
You put your soul on the line for that money.
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(13:18):
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Callaroga Shark Media. Hi there, I'm Johnny Mack with your
daily comedy news. Burt Kreischer. Did you enjoy his special?
He was talking to Variety sold a cool story. I
was walking in Savannah, Georgia one time before playing the arena,
and I saw my fans partying before the show down
by the river. I was jealous. I was like, dude,
(00:24):
I want to be with them, and I think they
know it. I love getting into stuff and being a
fan of something. I love discovering something and then becoming
obsessed with it and buying tickets for me and ten friends, like, Hey,
have you guys heard of the Red City Strays. They're
coming to town. They're about to be a new favorite band.
I bring all the comics, Shane Gillis, Mark Norman, Big,
Jay Ogerson, my wife, my whole team, six of my friends.
I get his tickets. We saw Jimmy Buffett, we saw Goose,
(00:44):
we saw Wilco. So I'm lucky to have fans that
are like me. Variety talked about that cliche that rock
stars want to be actors and actors want to be
rock stars. Back when I was working at Serious, I
remember comedians were in the mix, there was it. The
comedians wanted to be rock stars, and the rock stars
wanted to be actors, and the actors want to be comedians.
I think that was the triangle anyway, Bert, do you
feel that way about live music? Bert said, oh yeah,
(01:07):
I'd love to be able to just have a set
list that I know is going to murder instead of
going up at the comedy store trying to figure it out.
You could play your hits for years. Look at Creed,
they're doing stadiums now. I think all comedians wish they
were rock stars. We all wish we were taken seriously
and sexy. We're goofballs. Ironically, the sexiest thing about us
is that we're not sexy at all. At the beginning
of this special Spoilers, Bert rips his shirt off and
throws it in the air and it lands perfectly on
(01:28):
the mic. They were curious how many times on tour
did that workout versus not? And Bert said, it never worked.
That's why you could see the look on my face
as sheer exuberance. We had that ridiculous outfit made because
I noticed in all my specials I'm wearing the exact
same thing, jeans, and no shirts, so they all look identical.
Netflix would brand my specials with different outfits on the
thumbnail to draw people in, but then I'd be in jeans,
so I wanted to have a VERSACEI Miami style suit made.
(01:50):
The taping was special, if I'm not mistaken, we use
the entire set front to back from that taping. With comedy,
you can get a little bit of magic. That's why
crowd work is so fun. When my shirt landed on
the mic, everyone went crazy. We had one taping where
someone out a stroke, so we're not gonna use that one.
Oh that's awful. They were curious about how he works
in his family, and Bert said, I write everything in
the hopes that my daughters and wife will like it.
(02:11):
Land saw the act a couple of times. It definitely
had notes and doing that material. There was a certain
point in my act where it became less jovial. It
wasn't coming across the right way, and she had a
note about that. She was like, all I need is
a little bit of Rascal smile on your face. You're
doing it so much that you're losing that. Remember the
way you did it the first time. Great note from
Leanne similar discussion between Samarl and WAMC, who said, when
(02:32):
a rock band goes out on tour, people just want
to hear the old stuff. With comics, it's the opposite.
Sam said, yeah, I was just watching that Bob Dylan movie.
The big scene is that he wants to shake things
up and go electric, and he's like, yeah, screw you,
I'm going in electric and it was so funny that, Like,
no disrespect to musicians, but boy, they have it easy,
especially the big ones. You know, obviously if you're struggling musician,
having a middle class lifestyle as a musician's probably harder
(02:53):
than a comic. I think they're the easier trajectory. But
then if you're like Billy Joel, you're like, oh, I
don't have to write for forty years. That's incredible. Topic
of podcasts came up and how every comedian has one.
Sam said, I think the problem is there's so many
things you have to do. Remember years ago, David tell
told me like enjoying now when all you do is
wake up and write jokes, and he was right. But
now it's very hard for me to find time to
work on my act. The hollyw reporter asked Andrew Schultz,
(03:14):
you have a lot of success, why don't you just
post on YouTube? Schultz said, I did the first Netflix
special during COVID, and that was just based on these
turn your phone videos that I do. And the last
one I did where we sold it ourselves, was really
supposed to be on Amazon, but they gave me push
back about a couple jokes, and I don't even blame them.
I'm like, hey, you're a billion dollar company that sells
toilet paper. Why would you risk tarnishing your brand over
my Michael Jackson take or whatever the joke was. So
(03:36):
my initial idea was to do that one with the
streamer and see how that worked and see if that
brought it in a different audience, etc. But then people
were able to rally behind me and that was pretty sick,
all right, So why go Netflix this time? Schultz explains
there was a time during COVID when people were so
engaged online with creators where we were buying these live
moments and live events, and it became part of what
we did because there was so little content out there.
(03:56):
Then the second that COVID ended, the studio started pumping
stuff back out and people were like, all right, I
don't need to buy that little moment. I'll just watch
Severance on TV. Culture changed in the way we consumed
in my estination, So I was like, yeah, I think
it makes sense to go over here to Netflix. But
one of the cool things is that I had a
number that I could do on my own, meaning I
knew how much I could generate. No comic really knows
their worth. You just think of a number, you go, Okay,
(04:16):
Chapelle got that, But I had a number having had
that experience on my own. But even then, in order
to get an offer, you need another offer. That's the
other thing I realized about this business. Rody asked him
about all the various streamers getting into the business. Hi,
Hulu public says, how you guys doing today? You know
you don't have to answer, It's fine. Schultz said, this
is the best thing that can happen for comedians. I'm
putting this special on Netflix, but every comedian should be
(04:37):
rooting for Hulu right now. They should be rooting for Amazon.
My dog is apparently rooting for Amazon. I can never
tell if the directional Mike picks up the dog, but
she's barking, which is a story I recently did an
industry podcast, and I asked my wife, I'm like, can
you just take the dogs for an hour? Because I
need to seem like an industry professional. It's one thing
when I'm doing my own silly comedy podcast, I can
(04:58):
reference the dogs or make a bit out of it.
When I'm trying to come across as guy that owns
podcasting company, I need to be an adult and I
can't have crazy dogs. I was on a job or
interview lately and an online teaching course was looking for
me to teach a class about podcasting. In the middle
of it, the dogs went bananas, and like, I'm texting
her on the side, so it's a zoom call and
I'm trying to keep eye contact with the person interviewing me,
(05:20):
and I'm texting her like with my phone, blow the camera,
like will you get rid of the bleeping dogs? And
she ignored my texts. So it was very embarrassing. I digress.
Andrew Schultz said every comedian should be rooting for Hulu
right now. They should be rooting for Amazon because the
more people out there, the more competitive they have to be.
We created a competitor in YouTube, and what I think
that partly did is it loosen the constraints? Netflix has
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always been good with putting out content, not censoring, but
it made comics go, oh, I could potentially get more
for myself, not even money wise, just to get more
reach on YouTube. I often tell comics that are younger
in the game, putting your stuff out on YouTube and
clipping the whole thing and putting it out everywhere before
anybody knows about you is more beneficial for you. Variety variety, push,
and the stamp of approval then Netflix seemingly provides. Doesn't
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outweigh that, Schultz said, I think it depends where you
are in your career. I think early on people want
to find you. If somebody sees you at Madison Square Garden,
they're gonna be like, oh, he's popping. We don't want
to feel part of that discovery because you represent their dreams.
Good follow up A few years ago, apparently Andrew on
Rogan's show said Netflix is done. Andrew explained awestly anything,
it's why he can't take me too. Seriously, Ry was
curious if that impacted the negotiation. I'll answer having worked
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at companies, and I haven't even read his answer yet.
Talent wins. If somebody wants to be in business, you
could throw pies on the boss's face. And if they
think there's money to be made off somebody, they'll work
with somebody. Let's see what Andrew said. Oh, that didn't matter.
They don't care. They're in the business of putting out
the best comedy and they want to make sure it's
on their platform. Yep. So they're not gonna let me
say Netflix is dead. Before the last special I put
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out get in the way of me going to Hulu
or Amazon. They were right by the way. I thought
I was right, though, I was like, how can they
win this race? Everything's going to be on YouTube? But
they figured it out. Man Bill Burr was on Terry
Gross's show last week. He was doing some therapy. It
sounds like he said, I'd get off stage and just
feel like, God, what was that? What was that? That
didn't feel good? Meaning the laughter, even though the response
was good, it just kind of felt like it didn't
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feel good. It was gross. It's just dark, ugly, just
plain hurt, just coming out the wrong way. Where it's
so funny because some comedians that I love the most,
the way they process their pain was a very empathetic
short way, which I'd say Richard Prye was the king
of that. He just really had this ability of talking
about his mistakes that he made in a way that
you could see that it bothered him that he did
some of these things, and it also made you root
for him, Like I felt like that was the biggest
thing I had as far as being a fan of
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his work was beyond finding it hilarious and jaw droppingly brilliant,
was that I found I was rooting for him in
his personal life as he was going through all these
marriages and vorcees and problems with the cops and abuse
and lighting himself on fire. Like you know, I love
the guy, and I was just hoping he was going
to find peace. Where my comedy act right now is
I'm trying to get regular people to stop yelling at
each other. I talked about that last week. Remember when
Billy Corgan showed up on Howie Mandel's podcast and they
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started floating the conspiracy theory that Billy and Bill Burr
are brothers? Was it a bit? Is Billy Corgan for real?
Apparently he for real? He told people it was one
of those rare moments where I think all three of
us really didn't know where it was going. And you
see that, and that's what makes it sort of interesting.
There's enough energy there. That's why it's not a bit,
because it's really about confronting something in a way that
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none of us really knew what that confrontation would lead to.
And you see it play out. You see jokes, but
you also see like, oh, there's something there. A really
good friend of mine said to me, all right, tell
me the truth, and I said, I don't think so.
I don't think we're related. And then my friend said, well,
I think you are, and I said, well, I guess
it's possible, because it really does look like my father
in a way that's almost shocking to me. So then
my friend goes, we'll get a DNA test. No word
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on a DNA test yet, or if Bill Burr would
be interested in that. Corgan said, it's taken out a
life of its own. It's sort of strange. It really
started from honest things, which are my father may have
fathered twelve other children, and the facts of Bill's life
actually do match the story that I was told. So
there's no invention there. MOA Mayer talked to the BBC
for his show. He said he wanted to keep the
greater context in mine and didn't want to focus on
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October seventh and its aftermath because that almost insinuates that
this just started. Mo explains that couldn't be farther from
the truth. He spoke about the final episode, which I
won't spoil. Originally it was sixty minutes long and they
cut it down to thirty nine. He says it was
almost like we filmed a movie. He wanted to cover
the main strokes, which included how difficult it can be
to enter and live as a Palestinian. Once over there,
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Mo explains, immediately, you're not on vacation, You're on edge. Actually,
he says he can't walk away from being seen as
a spokesperson for Palestinians. I think everyone just needs to
manage their expectations. But I'm not going to shy away
from it. Those that agree with me or disagree with me.
It's important to continue the dialogue and have a conversation.
He has that he's always hopeful that things can get better.
Seattle Magazine caught up with Tom Papa the topic touring
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and when he toured you get some weird meals. What's
the most depressing tour meal you've had, Tom? Papa Tom said,
what's depressing is when you're in some hotels and you
see they have room service, so you get room service,
which seems like a good plan because of the timing.
You know, I got to get to the show. I'm
coming home late, or at least they have room service.
And then they show up my door with a paper
bag with the room service in it. It's a leftover
from COVID. I'm like, oh, I thought it was actually
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going to eat and now I'm just burrowing through the
trash looking for food. Zach Zimmerman will premiere their debut
comedy special, Surprise Me, on April twenty seconds. Zach has
been hailed as a rising star by The New York
Times and was named in Vultures Comedians You Should Will Know.
Filmed at the Bellhouse in Brooklyn, Zach takes a look
at the definition of love across evangelical Trump trained family members,
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Romance gone Wrong, and Donuts Done Right. You won me
over at Donuts. The special is described as sweet and salty.
I see what you're doing there. It'll be on YouTube Tuesday,
April twenty second, eight pm Eastern. Surprise Me will also
be available as an album. Johnny Mack likes when people
put things out as albums. Out tomorrow on Amazon if
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you're in the right geographic location. I don't think this
will air in the States, John, Why are you talking
about it? Because John likes Jimmy Carr, who's the host
of Amazon's Last One Laughing. Hopefully they show it here.
On Last One Laughing, comedians are put into a reality
TV style house, and chill should keep a straight face
while other contestants try to make them laugh. Jimmy says
the format plays into stand up strengths, as we're competitive
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and we don't like our colleagues to be funny. It's
strange should be working for Amazon, a soulist, capitalist, dubious
money making machine, but Amazon still thought I was the
man for the job. Last One Laughing is based on
a Japanese game show, prompting Jimmy to joke. Amazon are
continuing their policy of supplying cheap knockoffs from Asia. Some
of the contestants names you may know include Richard Ayoade.
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He didn't watch the show at the screening. He chose
to read a book. Trotle tells us the book is
Absolute Beginners by Colin McInnes. Richard said, I still haven't
seen it because of psychological problems, but well done everyone.
I have a strong policy about seeing my own face,
and it's a no for me. Richard Liken the show
to a hostage situation, Last One Laughing on Amazon tomorrow,
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depending where you live. Susie Eddie Hazzard is going to
tour Shakespeare this fall September thirteenth through November fifth. His
art will perform Hamlet. Not really comedy, but I thought
it was an interesting item. Took fifteen seconds for me
to tell you. A Nashville scene caught up with Andy
Marie Tillman two and a half years ago. She began
posting clips to social media and the guys of various
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original characters. They became a hit. Tillman has around five
hundred and seventy three thousand followers on TikTok another four
hundred and sixty nine thousand on Insta thanks to characters
like Papa, who's an ornery, overalls clad Appalachian, Pam, who's
your southern aunt who's prone to oversharing, and I love
this Nashvaratu, a Countree count count Country Countree musician and
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vampire trying to fit into the Nashville scene but having
a rough go. I love that as a premise, Tillman says,
you know, maybe, perhaps possibly it's been inspired by some
of her family. She says, my family takes bets on
who's who, so all of them think they're everybody, and
I think they like the down home kind of stuff.
Nashvaratu was too weird for them. They're like, I don't
get the vampire stuff. You'd probably do better if you
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did more, Papa, that'd probably launched you somewhere else. I'm like, okay,
don't need the no. She said, when the check started
coming in, I was able to quit cleaning houses the
thirty hours a week that I was happy to do
that to make the ends meet. And then I thought,
all right, maybe this social media thing isn't so bad.
There's something about getting a check that just makes everything.
You put your soul on the line for that money.
She is Andy Marie Tilman, and that is your comedy
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