October 11, 2025 • 9 mins
Johnny Mac delivers today's comedy news, highlighting Bert Kreischer's spontaneous and playful partying anecdotes involving his wife, which also inspire his 'Permission to Party' tour.
Gary Gulman reflects on his mixed experiences with 'Last Comic Standing' and the pivotal role of an appearance on 'Conan' in his career.
Stavros Halkias opens up about his struggles with traditional masculinity and finding his place in comedy. Mark Normand shares how he stumbled upon historical rocket scientists.
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Gary Gulman reflects on his mixed experiences with 'Last Comic Standing' and the pivotal role of an appearance on 'Conan' in his career.
Stavros Halkias opens up about his struggles with traditional masculinity and finding his place in comedy. Mark Normand shares how he stumbled upon historical rocket scientists.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Kalaroga Shark Media. Hello Johnny Mack with your daily comedy news.
Bert Krascher told USA Today, my wife never parties. But
if we're out to breakfast in Hawaii and she goes,
what's this kolua coffee thing? This sounds good. It might
be eight am and I have no plans for drinking,
and now I'm like, all right, we're getting wasted today.
(00:24):
It's the energy that I love about partying, the spontaneousness
of it. And every friend group has that one teetotaler
who never wants to go out or have fun. And
the second you break their spirit, you have permission to party,
which happens to be the name of his tour. Funny
how that worked out. It's the permission to Party tour,
and Sure says he will continue to make fun of
his wife, Leanne. I love my wife, but if I
(00:44):
have a good joke where I can trash her, I
do it happily. We have a rule in our relationship.
If it's funny, it plays. Gary Goleman talked to you
Third Coast Review about the old NBC series Last Comic Standing.
I used to hate that show because I was running comedy.
It's serious and people would watch it and be like, Hey,
how come you never play anything by the guy that
has eight seconds of material that I saw on TV
(01:05):
last night? And the answer would be, because he has
eight seconds of material, Golman, Who's got more than eight seconds?
And I just remember I was feeling pretty good at
the time, and I really had nothing going on in
terms of my career. I couldn't get any roadwork. And
this sounds like an exaggeration, but I don't think I
had three hundred dollars on the bank when it started.
I just remember I went into more credit card debt
to buy clothes so that I could look good on TV.
And then I just kept getting passed further along and
(01:25):
it was really exciting. It was interesting because it gave
me a touring career for about a year and a half,
and then it was back to where it was. I
felt like it was going back to the beginning. It
was a little frustrating. I mean, most people never get
to have that kind of exposure, so I was grateful
for it, but it was also like, oh, it didn't
set you up for the rest of the life in
terms of touring. Whereas it turns out, it was an
appearance on Conan that kind of set me up for that. Specifically,
Paton Oswald shared my appearance on Conan where I talked
(01:47):
about abbreviating the fifty States, and that gave me a
foundation that I feel like has grown. But it was
strong enough just on that that I could tour the
country and pay my rent every month, which is really
as you know, all we want is a comedian to
be able to give it our all, not have to
split our energy and brain power the day job all
the time, so that was really helpful. Gary talked about
his current sure Grand Delinquent, saying it's a little bit
of a prequel to the Great Depression, but it's a
(02:08):
little more theatrical, and that it's not all hilarious stand up.
This is some stories that are real bummers, so it's
more of a challenge to perform it because our oxygen
as comedians is laughter. And there's a part where it's
hard to say where the audience is enjoying themselves because
it's not a very funny story. It's sad and it's
just straight information rather than a joke or would you comment.
So it was challenging, but not so challenging that it
was overwhelmed. I felt over my head when we were
(02:29):
rehearsing it, and that's a really good place to be
as an artist, or an athlete, or really anything. You
should give yourself enough of a challenge where you wonder
whether you're equipped or whether you'll be able to rise
to the occasion. So I think the show's really fulfilling.
I mean, it was critically acclaim but I think more importantly,
it was a little bit out of my comfort zone.
My comfort zone is saying funny things, and this involved
me not being funny for part of it. It's still
a comedy show, but there's a lengthy story about a
half an hour where people gasp about and really take
(02:50):
it away with them. I think it's sort of a
gradual evolution as a performer and writer. Just start doing
these observational jokes and then do something very personal with
the great depression. Then do this, which is personal. I'm
also out of my comfort zone in terms of acting
and performing. Starvaros Halgi has caught up with GQ about
masculinity and Starvarro said, I definitely have a glaring difference
from the traditional idea of what a masculine man is
(03:11):
I've been fat my whole life. I received the scorn
of traditional masculinity. I definitely felt that growing up. I'm
pretty lucky that the funny fat guy's an archetype. Every
crew of bullies is a fat, wise cracking guy. That's there.
I played football, I was athletic, whatever, but that was
also me trying to fit in a way that sometimes
probably wasn't that good for me. I was in school
plays my whole life, and then something shifted in seventh grade.
(03:31):
I remember getting an offered a part, and I think
it was you're a good man, Charlie Brown or something,
but I wasn't Charlie. I got offered some other part,
and I was like, theater is gay, dude. I was like,
our theater teacher's gay. I don't want to be around
that guy. It was afft up. It was pure sour grapes,
the fact that I wanted to be Charlie Brown. Then
I was like, I'm thirteen, it's time to get strong,
it's time to be a football player. I certainly would
(03:52):
have been better off in the long run for my
life i'd stuck with theater. I would have still played sports.
Don't get me wrong, but I just admitted I wasn't
good enough to get the part, and I should have
worked her bounce my life out that way instead of
pretending like that's stuff's not for me when I got
my feelings hurt and lashing out in a very traditionally
negative way. That is a fantastic answer. That's somebody who
understands themselves. I like that answer a lot, he continued.
(04:13):
I think about with myself. When I was fourteen fifteen,
I was a loser. I was nervous to talk to girls.
I didn't feel comfortable in my body, was getting attacked
for being fat. Luckily, I was going to make fun
of people. But if there's some ripped dude who's good
at beating people up, was like, and I had to
get chicks. All you have to do is control women
and treat them poorly. If they shot me with that,
Andrew Tait ray when I was fourteen, stuff might have
(04:33):
been bad for me. All we had was Dane COOKSDS
Mark Norman caught up with al dot com. They were
curious about one of Mark's jokes and how Mark Norman
found out how Werner von Brown and other rocket scientists
who helped the US reach the moon were Nazis. Mark said,
for me, he was just driving around Huntsville and seeing
all the von Braun signs everywhere. Then I googled it.
(04:55):
I was like, who the hell's von Braun? How do
I not know this guy? And then the rest is his.
I was blown away. And plus, when you do a
gig somewhere, you need some local stuff to riff on.
So that's all it was. And I said, this is perfect.
It killed. You can't go wrong with Nazis. I was
cooking with gas Chamber and everybody liked it. Wow. And
then you know, Huntsville is such an anomaly because like,
I'm from Louisiana, but everybody thinks of Alabama as like
(05:17):
a toothless written state. And you've got the smartest people
on the planet as well, so it's a nice economy.
Mark self spoiled about his current tour and said, I've
got a whole chunk on a zimpic. I've got a
whole chunk on AI new advances to technology and chat
GPT and all this stuff. And I'm also trying to
go more personal. I just had a baby, so I'm
doing a bunch of baby stuff. But then you also
don't want to be the baby guy, so I'm always
(05:37):
tweaking and tinkering. Let's go at Cosca cut up with
Philippines Vogue. She's writing her third stand up special and
it is taking a different approach. She explains, for the
first two stand up specials, I always chase the joke,
but now I'm trying to do this thing where maybe
I service the whole story first. She finds that writing
jokes first can be limiting. She explains, sometimes she'll go,
oh wait, that joke about dogs doesn't fit into this
(05:58):
hour of themes. You have to take that out and
you do with that joke. You have to live in
the drama first for it to become funny. Eventually, Greg
Guttfeld got up at the LA Times. He was gloating
about being number one. Of course, his show was on
at ten pm Eastern, not eleven thirty five pm Eastern,
a fact that the Gutfeld camp loves to ignore, and
also on the West Coast, Fallon and Colbert and Kimmel
(06:20):
air at eleven thirty five and Gutfeld airs at seven pm. Anyway,
Gutfeld is number one in the ten pm time slot
and says, I get ratings every single day, so I
was able to watch us win. I guess it wasn't
that surprised by it. I just knew there was going
to take time. I thought, yeah, maybe in a couple
of years, but it was like in a matter of months.
He talked about the difference between Red Eye and the
(06:40):
current show. Red Eye was operating on the assumption that
you really had a select group of people awake at
two or three in the morning. It wasn't trying to
be a cult like pleasure. It just happened to be
that way. We did want it to be for everyone.
Though now we have ten times the viewers and we're
number one, So on my mind, I'm going I want
the same sensibility, but I don't want to completely confuse
the viewers. I realized that my humor on Red Eye
was deliberate, up tuse in some ways, and not really deliberately.
(07:02):
It was just surreal and bizarre, and maybe that one
fly in primetime or late night. But like Red Eye,
our shows now is interesting and unpredictable as that show was.
And that's ninety percent of the fight. Now, this next
section here, I've sat on this story for weeks. I
don't know if you noticed. It was busy. But all
this happened before the Kimmel gait, but I think it
happened after Colbert Gate. Gottfeldt said, I think the key
(07:23):
is that nothing you should say should warrant an apology,
Meaning if I were to insult you, you're not going
to demand an apology for me. When somebody wants an
apology for comment, I always ask them, how would that
apology sound? I'm sorry that the jokes I made hurt
your feelings? How insulting is that to the person you're
apologizing to. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings with this insult.
It's like the people that are demanding an apology don't
even see how absolutely insulting it is that they're asking
(07:43):
for it. Santem Johnson is one of vulturous comedians You
should and will know or whatever that thing is called. Anyway,
I like it a lot, even though I can never
remember what they call it. That's funny. I mean, she's
been around for a minutes. She was on last Comic
Standing in twenty fourteen was a just for laughs new face.
That same year, Welter asked, what was your worst show ever?
The answer. Probably the first time I did a main
(08:04):
spot at the Comedy Store. It was year one and
I was ambitious. I've been doing five minute spots to
warm up the show, and I thought, now that I'm
doing a main spot, which is fifteen minutes, I needed
all new material. I went up after Gerrod Carmichael, and
I watched him turn a bomb in a win, so
I thought I'd have the same luck. Nope, they didn't boo,
but the silence was deafening. The friends in the audience
who came out to support me were confused and embarrassed.
I was literally because I clearly didn't have the confidence
(08:26):
or experience to get through the bombs. I think the
audience had said good night. When I tried leaving the stage,
the host was nowhere to be found, so I had
to stand there an awkward failure. Ooh, that's brutal. What's
your biggest financial hurdle you've encountered since becoming a comedian?
Interesting answer here. I was under the impression that if
you tell me you're gonna pay me, you'll just do it.
But I learned very early that if you don't speak up,
people won't offer it to you. The Toronto Guardian caught
(08:48):
up with Toronto comedian Brady Coyle. Brady's favorite comedian growing
up George Carlin. I listened to his albums, particularly Complaints
and Grievances and Jamming in New York saw I'm Live
when I was fourteen. I was the only one in
the crowd under fifty. I love Carlin's ability and willingness
to analyze politics, dissect the English language, comment on human behavior,
extrapolate where societal trans will lead us, and then also
(09:11):
make sure to spend five minutes on for jokes. Ah,
who are your favorite comedians right now? Brady Coyle, I'm
a big fan of John Mulaney, Dave Chappelle, Pete Holmes, Apergetzi,
Luis k Dean Cole, and Tom Poppa. Mike Birbigley is
probably my favorite. He's a hilarious and captivating storyteller. To
find new comics, Brady says, nothing beats seeing comedy live
at the venue in person. Alternatively, I like watching full
(09:32):
specials because it allows the viewer to get a sense
of who comedian is and you get to see jokes
they crafted over a long period of time, and that
it's your comedy news for today, see you tomorrow,
Kalaroga Shark Media. Hello Johnny Mack with your daily comedy news.
Bert Krascher told USA Today, my wife never parties. But
if we're out to breakfast in Hawaii and she goes,
what's this kolua coffee thing? This sounds good. It might
be eight am and I have no plans for drinking,
and now I'm like, all right, we're getting wasted today.
(00:24):
It's the energy that I love about partying, the spontaneousness
of it. And every friend group has that one teetotaler
who never wants to go out or have fun. And
the second you break their spirit, you have permission to party,
which happens to be the name of his tour. Funny
how that worked out. It's the permission to Party tour,
and Sure says he will continue to make fun of
his wife, Leanne. I love my wife, but if I
(00:44):
have a good joke where I can trash her, I
do it happily. We have a rule in our relationship.
If it's funny, it plays. Gary Goleman talked to you
Third Coast Review about the old NBC series Last Comic Standing.
I used to hate that show because I was running comedy.
It's serious and people would watch it and be like, Hey,
how come you never play anything by the guy that
has eight seconds of material that I saw on TV
(01:05):
last night? And the answer would be, because he has
eight seconds of material, Golman, Who's got more than eight seconds?
And I just remember I was feeling pretty good at
the time, and I really had nothing going on in
terms of my career. I couldn't get any roadwork. And
this sounds like an exaggeration, but I don't think I
had three hundred dollars on the bank when it started.
I just remember I went into more credit card debt
to buy clothes so that I could look good on TV.
And then I just kept getting passed further along and
(01:25):
it was really exciting. It was interesting because it gave
me a touring career for about a year and a half,
and then it was back to where it was. I
felt like it was going back to the beginning. It
was a little frustrating. I mean, most people never get
to have that kind of exposure, so I was grateful
for it, but it was also like, oh, it didn't
set you up for the rest of the life in
terms of touring. Whereas it turns out, it was an
appearance on Conan that kind of set me up for that. Specifically,
Paton Oswald shared my appearance on Conan where I talked
(01:47):
about abbreviating the fifty States, and that gave me a
foundation that I feel like has grown. But it was
strong enough just on that that I could tour the
country and pay my rent every month, which is really
as you know, all we want is a comedian to
be able to give it our all, not have to
split our energy and brain power the day job all
the time, so that was really helpful. Gary talked about
his current sure Grand Delinquent, saying it's a little bit
of a prequel to the Great Depression, but it's a
(02:08):
little more theatrical, and that it's not all hilarious stand up.
This is some stories that are real bummers, so it's
more of a challenge to perform it because our oxygen
as comedians is laughter. And there's a part where it's
hard to say where the audience is enjoying themselves because
it's not a very funny story. It's sad and it's
just straight information rather than a joke or would you comment.
So it was challenging, but not so challenging that it
was overwhelmed. I felt over my head when we were
(02:29):
rehearsing it, and that's a really good place to be
as an artist, or an athlete, or really anything. You
should give yourself enough of a challenge where you wonder
whether you're equipped or whether you'll be able to rise
to the occasion. So I think the show's really fulfilling.
I mean, it was critically acclaim but I think more importantly,
it was a little bit out of my comfort zone.
My comfort zone is saying funny things, and this involved
me not being funny for part of it. It's still
a comedy show, but there's a lengthy story about a
half an hour where people gasp about and really take
(02:50):
it away with them. I think it's sort of a
gradual evolution as a performer and writer. Just start doing
these observational jokes and then do something very personal with
the great depression. Then do this, which is personal. I'm
also out of my comfort zone in terms of acting
and performing. Starvaros Halgi has caught up with GQ about
masculinity and Starvarro said, I definitely have a glaring difference
from the traditional idea of what a masculine man is
(03:11):
I've been fat my whole life. I received the scorn
of traditional masculinity. I definitely felt that growing up. I'm
pretty lucky that the funny fat guy's an archetype. Every
crew of bullies is a fat, wise cracking guy. That's there.
I played football, I was athletic, whatever, but that was
also me trying to fit in a way that sometimes
probably wasn't that good for me. I was in school
plays my whole life, and then something shifted in seventh grade.
(03:31):
I remember getting an offered a part, and I think
it was you're a good man, Charlie Brown or something,
but I wasn't Charlie. I got offered some other part,
and I was like, theater is gay, dude. I was like,
our theater teacher's gay. I don't want to be around
that guy. It was afft up. It was pure sour grapes,
the fact that I wanted to be Charlie Brown. Then
I was like, I'm thirteen, it's time to get strong,
it's time to be a football player. I certainly would
(03:52):
have been better off in the long run for my
life i'd stuck with theater. I would have still played sports.
Don't get me wrong, but I just admitted I wasn't
good enough to get the part, and I should have
worked her bounce my life out that way instead of
pretending like that's stuff's not for me when I got
my feelings hurt and lashing out in a very traditionally
negative way. That is a fantastic answer. That's somebody who
understands themselves. I like that answer a lot, he continued.
(04:13):
I think about with myself. When I was fourteen fifteen,
I was a loser. I was nervous to talk to girls.
I didn't feel comfortable in my body, was getting attacked
for being fat. Luckily, I was going to make fun
of people. But if there's some ripped dude who's good
at beating people up, was like, and I had to
get chicks. All you have to do is control women
and treat them poorly. If they shot me with that,
Andrew Tait ray when I was fourteen, stuff might have
(04:33):
been bad for me. All we had was Dane COOKSDS
Mark Norman caught up with al dot com. They were
curious about one of Mark's jokes and how Mark Norman
found out how Werner von Brown and other rocket scientists
who helped the US reach the moon were Nazis. Mark said,
for me, he was just driving around Huntsville and seeing
all the von Braun signs everywhere. Then I googled it.
(04:55):
I was like, who the hell's von Braun? How do
I not know this guy? And then the rest is his.
I was blown away. And plus, when you do a
gig somewhere, you need some local stuff to riff on.
So that's all it was. And I said, this is perfect.
It killed. You can't go wrong with Nazis. I was
cooking with gas Chamber and everybody liked it. Wow. And
then you know, Huntsville is such an anomaly because like,
I'm from Louisiana, but everybody thinks of Alabama as like
(05:17):
a toothless written state. And you've got the smartest people
on the planet as well, so it's a nice economy.
Mark self spoiled about his current tour and said, I've
got a whole chunk on a zimpic. I've got a
whole chunk on AI new advances to technology and chat
GPT and all this stuff. And I'm also trying to
go more personal. I just had a baby, so I'm
doing a bunch of baby stuff. But then you also
don't want to be the baby guy, so I'm always
(05:37):
tweaking and tinkering. Let's go at Cosca cut up with
Philippines Vogue. She's writing her third stand up special and
it is taking a different approach. She explains, for the
first two stand up specials, I always chase the joke,
but now I'm trying to do this thing where maybe
I service the whole story first. She finds that writing
jokes first can be limiting. She explains, sometimes she'll go,
oh wait, that joke about dogs doesn't fit into this
(05:58):
hour of themes. You have to take that out and
you do with that joke. You have to live in
the drama first for it to become funny. Eventually, Greg
Guttfeld got up at the LA Times. He was gloating
about being number one. Of course, his show was on
at ten pm Eastern, not eleven thirty five pm Eastern,
a fact that the Gutfeld camp loves to ignore, and
also on the West Coast, Fallon and Colbert and Kimmel
(06:20):
air at eleven thirty five and Gutfeld airs at seven pm. Anyway,
Gutfeld is number one in the ten pm time slot
and says, I get ratings every single day, so I
was able to watch us win. I guess it wasn't
that surprised by it. I just knew there was going
to take time. I thought, yeah, maybe in a couple
of years, but it was like in a matter of months.
He talked about the difference between Red Eye and the
(06:40):
current show. Red Eye was operating on the assumption that
you really had a select group of people awake at
two or three in the morning. It wasn't trying to
be a cult like pleasure. It just happened to be
that way. We did want it to be for everyone.
Though now we have ten times the viewers and we're
number one, So on my mind, I'm going I want
the same sensibility, but I don't want to completely confuse
the viewers. I realized that my humor on Red Eye
was deliberate, up tuse in some ways, and not really deliberately.
(07:02):
It was just surreal and bizarre, and maybe that one
fly in primetime or late night. But like Red Eye,
our shows now is interesting and unpredictable as that show was.
And that's ninety percent of the fight. Now, this next
section here, I've sat on this story for weeks. I
don't know if you noticed. It was busy. But all
this happened before the Kimmel gait, but I think it
happened after Colbert Gate. Gottfeldt said, I think the key
(07:23):
is that nothing you should say should warrant an apology,
Meaning if I were to insult you, you're not going
to demand an apology for me. When somebody wants an
apology for comment, I always ask them, how would that
apology sound? I'm sorry that the jokes I made hurt
your feelings? How insulting is that to the person you're
apologizing to. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings with this insult.
It's like the people that are demanding an apology don't
even see how absolutely insulting it is that they're asking
(07:43):
for it. Santem Johnson is one of vulturous comedians You
should and will know or whatever that thing is called. Anyway,
I like it a lot, even though I can never
remember what they call it. That's funny. I mean, she's
been around for a minutes. She was on last Comic
Standing in twenty fourteen was a just for laughs new face.
That same year, Welter asked, what was your worst show ever?
The answer. Probably the first time I did a main
(08:04):
spot at the Comedy Store. It was year one and
I was ambitious. I've been doing five minute spots to
warm up the show, and I thought, now that I'm
doing a main spot, which is fifteen minutes, I needed
all new material. I went up after Gerrod Carmichael, and
I watched him turn a bomb in a win, so
I thought I'd have the same luck. Nope, they didn't boo,
but the silence was deafening. The friends in the audience
who came out to support me were confused and embarrassed.
I was literally because I clearly didn't have the confidence
(08:26):
or experience to get through the bombs. I think the
audience had said good night. When I tried leaving the stage,
the host was nowhere to be found, so I had
to stand there an awkward failure. Ooh, that's brutal. What's
your biggest financial hurdle you've encountered since becoming a comedian?
Interesting answer here. I was under the impression that if
you tell me you're gonna pay me, you'll just do it.
But I learned very early that if you don't speak up,
people won't offer it to you. The Toronto Guardian caught
(08:48):
up with Toronto comedian Brady Coyle. Brady's favorite comedian growing
up George Carlin. I listened to his albums, particularly Complaints
and Grievances and Jamming in New York saw I'm Live
when I was fourteen. I was the only one in
the crowd under fifty. I love Carlin's ability and willingness
to analyze politics, dissect the English language, comment on human behavior,
extrapolate where societal trans will lead us, and then also
(09:11):
make sure to spend five minutes on for jokes. Ah,
who are your favorite comedians right now? Brady Coyle, I'm
a big fan of John Mulaney, Dave Chappelle, Pete Holmes, Apergetzi,
Luis k Dean Cole, and Tom Poppa. Mike Birbigley is
probably my favorite. He's a hilarious and captivating storyteller. To
find new comics, Brady says, nothing beats seeing comedy live
at the venue in person. Alternatively, I like watching full
(09:32):
specials because it allows the viewer to get a sense
of who comedian is and you get to see jokes
they crafted over a long period of time, and that
it's your comedy news for today, see you tomorrow,
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