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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Callaroga Shark Media.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Busy one today. Hello, I'm Johnny Mack with your daily
comedy news. Took me quite a while to put this
one together, and I even moved some stuff into the future.
So let's just jump right in. John Mulaney's talk show
is back next week. Somehow sort of sneaking up on everybody,
least knuck up on me. But here it comes. Mulaney
said he never wanted to host a talk show, but
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he has released a trailer. I have to give you
the visual here. So John is standing in a parking
lot and we're seeing the point of view from like
a drone. So John is far away, and the discussion
is how should the promo be filmed? It's a little deconstructionist.
So again, picture you're looking down from on high and
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John Mulaney is somewhere down there in a parking lot.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Let's listen, let me know, let me know when you're
tight enough that I should say the line is something
gonna cue me when I just want to be tight
enough to saying the line makes sense? Okay, And Everybody's
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Live is on Wednesdays Live. Okay, So I wait. At twenty,
I counted to five myself. So just after you call
out twenty, I'll count to five.
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And as you heard, the abruptly cut to music. So
it's got you know that Letterman Cone in twelve thirty
kind of vibe there, like where he's going. During the trailer,
he puts on a pair of sunglasses like David Caruso,
and then takes them off again like David Caruso. Everybody's
Live with John Mulaney's now what it's called March twelve.
That'll run for twelve consecutive wednesdays. That I got to
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hang out with the trivia guys and or play volleyball
and then come home and watch mullaney. It's a lot
of work. I'm just trying to do a podcast here.
Oh poor me, I have to come home and watch
Netflix for an hour. Life is so hard doing your podcast, John,
I feel so bad for you. Richard Kine returns as
John mulanie's mc M'LINI said the first ever celebrity sit
down talk show. There's absolutely nothing new about what I'm doing.
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By taking a lot of elements other people have already
done and doing them out of order, it feels new,
and that's what's important. Andrew Schultz said, a big profile
in the La Times, a lot of Schultz press. I'll
break that apart for the next oh, probably six days.
It'll take me to get through all this the La Times.
I was curious why Andrew had Trump on his podcast
since the podcast is not political in any way at all.
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And Andrew said, no, not really. What do you think
comedy helped get Trump elected? Andrew? Do you mean Trump
going on the podcast Times, well, specifically comedy podcast. Trump
went on several shows, including Your Flagrant Podcast as well
as Rogan and Theo. Andrew, I have a maybe more
humbled than some, which is that I don't think it
influenced the election at all. I think people were going
to vote this way no matter what, and I think
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seeing him on certain podcasts made them feel more comfortable
voicing how they were already going to vote. I don't
think very many people were like watching Trump on Mine
or Robo or Theo and then flipped on him one
hundred percent. It's just me. I don't know if we
have that kind of power. But what he might do
is make you feel more confident in publicly sharing how
you feel about Trump, right because maybe in those situations
he feels a little less radioactive. Schultz. I don't really
care about politics. I just care about culture. But sometimes
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politics is the reflection of culture. That's when I start
to kind of key in on it. Now the pendulum
is swung the other way, so we're like out of
the censorship area. When we're in a censorship ere comedians
are usually the first ones to complain about it because
it kind of affects the way we do our thing,
and that's happened throughout history, and usually you get like
really prolific comedians that come out of those times, Carlin
being one of them. I mean, even Eddie Murphy, you know,
like people in prior the way that they would talk
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about him, like I can't believe he's saying these things.
This is so crazy. So I think censorship in a
way is kind of good for comedy. But comedians speak
about it, and then comedy's having a boom, and that's
a reflection of the most influential person on the planet,
Joe Rowe and being a comedian and loving comedians and
putting comedy at the forefront of his interest. There's also
like a social media aspect and where it's like everybody
wants a funny tweet, a funny picture of funny meme.
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There's like currency and being funny. You know, it's kind
of like the perfect storm. Times asked what was the
hardest part in prepping for the interview with Trump? Good question,
Andrews said, for me, just that I want to understand
who he is. So I spoke to some people close
to him. I spoke to Dana White for a while,
and I spoke to Don Junior for a while, and
I just said, tell me a story. I want personal stories,
Like tell me your relationship. Like you don't have to
tell me who he is or who you think he is,
Like tell me moments that have happened between you guys.
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La Times, what was the goal of the Trump interview
when you went into it. Did you feel like you
accomplished it? Schultz? The goal was like the goal with
every person I sit down with. I don't want to
tooot our own horn on the pod, but I think
we got the best interview with a lot of people,
specifically because we're just trying to find out who you
are and make you comfortable enough to hang with us.
We're just trying to have the best hang on the internet.
That's it. I hate that I have I hate that
I even have to mention this. It's so stupid. We
offered tons of Democrats to come on, but you know
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they didn't. Mark Cuban came on. I'll say that, and
then Cuban was trying to push more Democrats to come on.
He's a big surrogate for Kamala. Good followup by the
light time. Did they give a reason as for their no? Andrew?
I think they're in a situation where they're playing like
a little bit of prevent defense. And I think it's
a tricky thing. Again, I speak about these things culturally.
I don't really understand politics, but I can just understand
the people's reaction to things. I think Americans like risk.
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We like people who are going to take a risk.
I think that they were seduced by Bernie Sanders because
he looked like he was taking risks. He was out
there like f the billionaires, f these big corporations, they're
taking your money. I want to get your money back,
and all of us were like, yo, he's gonna get killed,
like this guy's fire. I think that's the tricky thing
for the Democrats. They could win this so easily if
they made this about class. If they made it a
class war, they'd win in a heartbeat. It's so easy.
But it seems like they're not willing to do that
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because I think they have very wealthy people donating a
lot of money to them. They don't want to ruffle
those feathers. So I have to make it about identity
politics because it's the only other thing they would win
in a heartbeat if they mad it about class. I
think you need a young Bernie. Look at AOC again.
I don't care what you think about her politics, but
there are people in her district voted for her and Trump,
and I think that's because people see her as working
class and actually want to help the working class, regardless
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if you think your philosophy is right about it. He
talked about the Brilliant Idiots podcast he does with Charlamagne. Dude.
It's the best. We've been doing this over for ten
years and now he's always been this crazy superstar and
maybe I've gotten a little bit bigger. But then you
can see the political websites looking or stuff and basically
watching the pod and they're like clipping it. But the
thing I like about it is here we are these
guys that like we might disagree in terms of politics
about some things, we're friends for over a decade. It's
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just the proof that we don't need America to be
so divided. We hate each other and we're about to fight,
but we can actually be best friends and we could
talk smack in, you know, do whatever we've been doing
for ten years. In the podcast, while also disagreeing slightly,
really great stuff there. The Hollywood Reporter had a similar interview, again,
how much time have I spent on Andrew? Ready? I
want to keep moving, but this leads into what I
want to talk about next. Andrew talked about how he
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approached his new special and said, I've never been personal
and I've never told stories. I had to learn what
a story was. I read all these books about storytelling,
you name it, I read it, and I even bought
these cards from Instagram with like storytelling tactics. I wanted
to figure out what makes this stuff work? Why are
some stories good? Why are some boring? And it's the
thing unfolded. I was like, Okay, what if I just
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told one story? But I never wanted to tell anybody
it was one story because I didn't want the one
man show expectation. So that leads me to my commentary.
I had some time the other night and I was like, oh,
I'm hearing good things about Andrew Schultz special. Let me
watch it. And I started to play it, and the
note I had before I saw this Hollywood Reporter interview
was I didn't like the storytelling. It didn't work for me.
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His opening joke is, okay, it is about Chicago. I
won't spoil it, but I personally have been making that
joke since the nineties, at least half of it, and
the other half since the early part of this century.
So not an original joke. He did have a good
tag on it. Again, I don't want to spoil it.
If you saw it, it involved Chicago. That joke I
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thought was really good. But then when he got into
the storytelling, I just I didn't care. Just it didn't
hook me. I lasted seven minutes, which is usually when
my comedy special Spidey sense kicks in. Again. Maybe the
last fifty three minutes or whatever it is is awesome,
that's not my problem. I'm a dude in a chair
with her remote and I fum board. I'm out. So
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I was like, all right, let me watch some comedy
specials since I blocked out the time. Next, I clicked
on rosebud Baker's special. I was excited about that one,
and she lost me really early. If you're not familiar
with that special, the gimmick is she recorded some of
it while pregnant and some of it after having the baby.
And the way it's cut, it's going back and forth
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like line by line. So you're watching it and she's pregnant,
and then the next scene she's not pregnant, and then
she's pregnant again, and then she's not pregnant again, and
my brain couldn't handle it, and I'm like, I'm out.
Did not last long at all. I'm like, all right,
what else is out there? Oh? Yeah, Lisa Traeger had
a special Netflix put in front of me. I clicked
on that. I liked her energy a lot. I thought
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it was fun. I am a comedy snob. In case
you can't tell, is I'm just hating on everything this morning.
But I did think it was fun. I think at
its core it was fine. It won't make my end
of the year list. It's just fine. It's just another
comedy special. It's fine. But I did like her energy
a lot, and I'm like, all right, let me keep going.
Let me head over to Amazon and see this George
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Lopez special that, as far as I could tell, George
Lopez did no promotion for Can I tell you here's
the word I'm using to describe it, horrific, Like George,
what are you doing? It's kind of like George taking
a victory lap. But how about some jokes? Dude, not
good at all? And I bailed and I'm like, all right,
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surely somebody must have done a good comedy special I
could watch. I went over to Hulu and Hilarious Christa
Stefano was on, and the word I'm gonna use hack.
It's also tonally off brand for Hulu if I understand
the hilarious brand, and maybe I don't, and maybe the
publicist could get in touch with me and tell me
what it is. But if Christa Stefano special was on
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Fox Nation, I'd be like, yeah, okay, this makes sense,
and I am saying that for reasons stay with me
for the rest of the podcast. But on Hulu it
was just kind of weird and off vibe. It felt
very Fox and also the jokes are ha, So I went, oh,
for five. Now you can say this podcast sucks, because
it probably does. You could say I have no idea
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what I'm talking about, and I probably don't. But one
dude sitting in a comfy chair with a remote who
admits to being a comedy snob, oh for five. Chris
de Stefano has been talking a lot lately with Fox
News Digital. I see him coming up every day on
their site. Chris told Fox News Digital that men competing
in women's sports was a humongous issue for voters and
himself at the twenty four election. Chris believes listing men
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competing in women's sports was the catalyst for many people
abandoning the Democratic Party in twenty four. Quoting Chris, I
think also too, just like a big, big, big, big
big thing five bigs was for all of us, for
certain comedians and all that. I think the trans women
and sports thing was a humongous thing for voters because
the you know, left wanted to go with the narrative
that people are anti trans and people don't listen. There
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are people who hate every group, for sure. I've never
met someone who wants to physically hurt someone because they're trans.
I think, like, especially in New York. I think trans
people are welcome, quoting Chris. I'm all for anybody's time
on this planet to be as useful as they want
it to be and as pleasurable as they want it
to be. I mean, you're only gonna live once. But
I think when the Democrats came out and we're like
championing you know, trans females and sports, you forgot about
like the actual women, and you forgot about like, hey,
I have daughters, Like I don't want to be competing
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against someone who's born in Man just because they do
have physiological advantages. The Stefano proposed creating an all trans league,
quoting Chris, I want a trans league, for sure. I
would love that. But I want biological women to play
against biological women, and men to play against men, and
trans people to play with trans people. We're all for that.
Chris also felt that many people traditionally aligned with the
Democratic Party, like Joe Rogan, supported many of the party's causes,
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but were completely disaffected by the party's willingness to support
men playing in women's sports, quoting Chris, again, I think
specifically on why a guy like Joe Rogan, and again
I don't know, I've never asked Joe about this, but
what I saw was this shift when we were saying, hey, wait,
this is crazy. I was with some of the other stuff,
but like, you can't be serious about this. Oh my,
I just checked the clock. I gonna have a long
one today. Wow. I want to talk about George Lopez,
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his recent Amazon specials being just decribed by some people
as horrific. Well, he's getting into a new business. He
has partnered with Truly Original, a production company behind such
series as The Real Housewives of Atlanta and inc. Master.
George and those guys are going to develop a number
of unscripted projects that The first is a feature documentary
about Charlie Murphy. It is called Darkness The Charlie Murphy Story.
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It will tell the story of Charlie Murphy, who died
in twenty seventeen from leukemia at age fifty seven. Vulture
had caught up with Bill Burr. He's in Glengarry Glenn Ross,
and Bill said, I get this guy, this good guy underneath,
but he just sw his mouth and rousey, which I
did too, And also I think he's right. Doesn't have
to be that way. It's funny that was written a
long time ago, showing the direction things are going in.
Have people just continue to squeeze people beneath them, and
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how they get satisfaction out of that. A lot of
this new Robert Baronet's just wildly out of control in
every business. Meanwhile, we're selling crappy land. That's the other
thing I like about it. It's a human thing to
act righteous when you're not righteous. Bill talked about the
arts of giving grief to those you love, giving craps
an art because you got to feel love underneath it.
That's always out of communicator with people as far as
telling them and I like them, teasing them a little bit,
hope they're going to do it back to me. These
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characters are like a bunch of comedians giving each other crap.
And then there's the top comic. When human beings get upset,
they say the exact opposite. I wouldn't be like I
actually really liked you, so when you say that to me,
that really hurts me. It's funny. His play was written
forty years ago and manage still not allowed to say that.
It's beyond uncomfortable, which is why we communicate in the
short bursts of insults that we do all right getting
along here. Let me bounce a couple things, But I
do want to tell you that JR. Da Guzman's special
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is out today on the eight hundred to pound Guerrilla
YouTube channel, and the special, titled I'm Your Son, Papa Jr.
De Guzman shares and sings the true stories of his
Filipino American upbringing, filled with laughter, love, and the complexities
of family life. From R and B songs about Asian
masculinity and representation to smooth, sultry songs about division in America.
This special will heal you and heal the world. My
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phone is blowing up. Apparently the New York Marathon did
you Get in? Announcement is happening at this hour. I
haven't heard one way or another. I'm texting with a
friend saying, I kind of hope I got to know,
because if you get a yes, then you actually have
to train for the thing and do it. If you
get to know, it's like, ah, you know I would
have ran them, Aratha, but you know they won't. Levy Ah.
There's a series out today on Hulu is called Deli Boys.
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Seeing some good buzz on it. The av Club wrote,
like any good sitcom and need some room to grow.
Although it is solid bones from the get go, the
instant hook is spoilery, but two Pakistani American brothers find
themselves running a convenience store chain, only to learn that
the chain is actually a front to smuggle drugs. Raj
and Meir are thrust into the mafia. Underworld. Show runner
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Michelle Nader grew up in South Philly and said, I'm
not from the rich side of Philly. I'm from South Philly.
So the sort of underbelly of Phillies my world. I
think we were attracted to that and what that looked
like beyond the doors of the Delhi, what's really going on?
I think Philly has that mystery to it. Interestingly enough,
all ten episodes were filmed in Chicago. We'll talk about
that in a second. The series is set in South
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Philadelphia's Gray's Ferry neighborhood, a locale inspired by Serious. Creator
Abdullah Sayid said remembered a story I went to a
party when I was at Temple. Some friends had moved
into a house in South Philly. We went down there
and it was a very dilapidated and dangerous neighborhood. We
were like you sure you guys want to live here.
Somebody then told me about Grace Ferry, the Forgotten Bottom.
That name always stayed with me. It felt like a
place where you could have a business that's a front
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and nobody would notice. Now Block Club Chicago, they cover
Chicago and explain Chicago has stood in for many cities
in the history of film and TV. They were curious
why Deli Boys filmed in Chicago. Executive producer Jenny Conner
explained the tax break. Chicago's a very friendly place to film.
I'm making a joke, but really thank God for that
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tax break. Sayid said, it was very important to us
that the show looks like Philly and Chicago really does,
not just visually but vibe wise. That's a working class
city that loves its sports teams and very down to earth.
Deli Boys out today on Hulu. I supposedly all ten episodes,
but it's Hulu. You know, you might get into like
you might watch the first nine and a half and
they're like, oh, sorry, the stream ended who has been
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known to do that. I am still furious about that
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is your comedy news for today. And I bumped like
seven stories. I don't have time to record other episodes.
Otherwise I could keep myself a week off, all right,
See tomorrow