September 7, 2025 • 13 mins
Kam Patterson’s old jokes about Rochester resurface just as he joins Saturday Night Live. Johnny Mac also covers the UK’s SNL spinoff, Nate Bargatze hosting the Emmys and launching a 62-arena tour, Howard Stern’s contract drama at SiriusXM, Marc Maron’s evolving WTF legacy, Paul Rodriguez’s drug charges, Fred Armisen’s Uncle Fester transformation, and harsh reviews for NBC’s The Paper.
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/daily-comedy-news-with-johnny-mac--4522158/support.
Become a premium subscriber! (no ads). For Apple users, hit the banner on your Apple podcasts app which says UNINTERRUPTED LISTENING and the bonus “DCN8” show.
You also get 25+ other series (it’s only $4.99 a month with a free-trial month)
Contact John at john@thesharkdeck dot com
Media Thoughts is mcdpod.substack.com
dailycomedynews.substack.com
DCN on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@dailycomedynews
https://linktr.ee/dailycomedynews
www.buymeacoffee.com/dailycomedynews
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/daily-comedy-news-with-johnny-mac--4522158/support.
Become a premium subscriber! (no ads). For Apple users, hit the banner on your Apple podcasts app which says UNINTERRUPTED LISTENING and the bonus “DCN8” show.
You also get 25+ other series (it’s only $4.99 a month with a free-trial month)
Contact John at john@thesharkdeck dot com
Media Thoughts is mcdpod.substack.com
dailycomedynews.substack.com
DCN on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@dailycomedynews
https://linktr.ee/dailycomedynews
www.buymeacoffee.com/dailycomedynews
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Kalaroga Shark Media. Hey there, I'm Johnny Mack with your
daily comedy news. NFL Sunday Going Niners looking forward to
the Jets getting destroyed as expected. People are just wigged
that Cam Patterson, the guy from kill Tony and among
other things, but best known for Kill Tony, is joining
(00:25):
Saturday Night Live. Syracuse dot Com went digging and they
found new SNL cast member has strong feelings about Upstate
New York and the poll quote that place is terrible.
Upstate New York is actually very, very beautiful. Anyway, back
in January, Cam Patterson was on Kill Tony. The Syracuse
folks pulled a clip in the cliff Patterson says, I'm
(00:46):
gonna look into the camera when I say this f Rochester,
New York. Tony Hinchcliff, who's from Youngstown, Ohio, said, I
fully endorse cam statements about anywhere in Upstate New York.
It's incredible for anyone to stay there after being born,
and he's there. Patterson chimed in and said, yeah, that
place is terrible. Tony Hinchcliff said, people in Upstate New
York settled down with the first person they said, like you,
(01:07):
they get pregnant and then become stuck there forever in
eternal hell, while literally the rest of America laughs at you.
Patterson cut in again and said, f Rochester a garbage place.
F all two hundred something thousand now. During a stand
up show last December, apparently Patterson made some comments about
the food in Rochester. He showed a photo of the
garbage plate. We've talked about that in the past. The
(01:29):
garbage plate typically includes a base of home fries or
macaroni salad, top with meat like hamburgers or hot dogs,
and finished with a spicy meat and fused hot sauce, mustard,
and onions. Patterson called the meal pig slop. I'm saying,
if you want to come over today and watch football,
I have rid zone. If you bring home fries, top
with meat type with spicy sauce, mustard and onions, I'll
(01:51):
bring the beer. While I'm already home. I already have
the beer. You bring a garbage plate. There is a
lot of strife going on over at SNL. I've got
you stories I'm saving from Monday. Why John, Because Monday
shows are slightly more listened to than Sunday shows. So
I'll make those the lead on tomorrows. Over in the UK,
they're getting their own version of Saturday Night Live, and
they're going to be able to say some swear words.
(02:14):
The Sky Television network explains that in the UK, swearing
after nine pm is allowed. My recommendation, don't swear. I
mean the occasional swear word for effect works. But you know,
don't turn this into Saturday afing Night Live. You know
who doesn't swears that. Nate forgets it and he's doing Okay,
did you buy stock in Nate? Because he's hosting the Emmy.
(02:35):
He's a week from today. I hope you bought up.
He also announced a tour. See we're already making money
on our bet. The Big Dumb Eyes Tour in twenty
twenty six, sixty two Arena stops stretching through next August.
The tour begins January fifteenth in Eugene, Oregon, where most
tours begin. I'm not going to read you sixty five dates.
(02:55):
He's probably close enough to you. Like for me, I
could wait until set Saturday August eighth and go to
Newark and see him there. That's the third last show.
Who wraps up August fifteenth in Toronto little Howard Stern
news at the end of last week. The boss is
there over at Sirius XM must see the scuttle butt
and probably just knowing how people think over there, they
(03:16):
probably were a little nervous about the stock and need
it to protect it. The CEO over there, nice woman
named Jennifer, said it certainly has to make sense, meaning
a Stern deal, But we feel pretty good that we've
done this before and we'll see where it goes. I
think he's been quarter o a platform for over twenty years.
Some confident we'll get to the right place. A different
boss over there was asked how serious XM determines whether
or not they should do with deal. He said they
(03:37):
look at hours, listen to add revenue, social media and publicity.
As I have been saying, Howard will renew. I think
they'll drag this out and capitalize on all the free
publicity they're getting. This boss even said publicity is basically
in kind free marketing. So they'll drag out the story
and in December it'll be like, what do you know,
Howard's staying? What a shock? Good piece and slate under
(03:58):
the headline. Mark Marin thinks he's Comedy's Jay Robert Oppenheimer,
is he right? Luke Winkie writes, you can find the
formula Maren established all those years ago pretty much everywhere
in the industry. The Joe Rogan Experience, which debuted mere
months after w TF, shares the exact same DNA long form, meandering,
sometimes surprisingly personal chats with miscellaneous stand ups and gadflies.
(04:20):
This also goes for this past weekend with theo Vaughn
ponent O'Brien. You can even hear its influence on the
Ezra Klein Show, Luke continues. For a few years there,
the world of comedy was remade in Maren's image. Comedians
spield their guts both in his studio and on stage,
and comedy clubs increasingly began to resemble group therapy clinics.
As the WTF brand grew, Maren moved away from the
(04:40):
Rinky Dinks stand up anks that originally attracted me to
the show. He remained a sharp interviewer, but the star
power of the guests slowly grew brighter and more distant
from his own world. Over time, WTF lost its status
as this sacred place for embittered stand ups to try
to deduce the meeting of their careers. I think this
piece is on point. Instead, it just became an other
big ticket interview podcast, competing with a wide array of imitators.
(05:03):
Luke writes, tuning into the podcast every week didn't feel
quite as crucial as it once did. I belonged to
a demographic of people that is capable of caring massively
about the life and times of alt comedy lifer Brian Posain.
The show, in its original conception was exclusively concerned with
those nerdy fixations. But how can you find time for
him between Jeremy Allen White, Alexander Scoresgarden and Risque Hargatea,
(05:25):
all of who appeared on WTF this summer. And I'll
add personally, I didn't download those episodes. I'm with the
writer here. I've got a bunch of Marens in my phone.
Let me call it Maren. I'll tell you how I'm
doing this. So not downloaded Spike Lee, Regina King, Ben Stiller,
downloaded Tim Heidecker, Bow and Yang. I've listened to those already,
(05:46):
Sarah Sherman, I listened to quest Leven Aquafina, didn't listen
to I'm with Luke I would be much more excited
if the next guest was Brian Posain talking about comedy
for an hour. So the conclusion to this thing piece
is and I agree, maybe Maren has timed his exit
from WTF perfectly. I did put years on that Kyle
Mooney Beck Bennett podcast and the guest was Mark Maren.
(06:09):
As a professional podcasting expert, despite me broadcasting in the basement,
I do have some thoughts for the guys. Beck and Kyle.
You gotta pen write this down. Your audio is terrible
now as a podcasting expert, I'm going to guess the
reason your audio is terrible is because you're really making
a YouTube video and putting it out as a podcast.
The audio is so bad that, despite me being on
(06:31):
a very much Marin kick right now, I couldn't even
stick around for Maren. I just like, this is unlistenable.
It sounds like it's underwater. They got to get their
act together over there. Let's see how it's doing on
the charts. It's actually Thursday as I record this. I'm
pretty honest, I record the weekends in advance. What is
this thing called again? What's our podcast? The name of
(06:51):
this thing is even terrible is that what it's called? Yeah,
what's our podcast with Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney. The
name's Terrible. It's up to number one sixteen overall, up
eleven spots and now number fourteen in the comedy subcategory.
So it's possible. Johnny Mack has no idea what he's
talking about, but personally I couldn't listen at all. Who
are their dream guests? They were asked. Beck Bennett said,
not necessarily my dream guest, but I think it would
(07:13):
be really fun to have Lorne Michaels on. You think,
especially right now, you think here, here's my dream guest list,
Taylor Swift, Lauren Michaels. I guess this week I would
take President Trump and RFK Junior. Beck Bennett was asked,
do you think would go along with it? I don't know.
I think it's below his standards. Kyle Money thinks Paul
(07:34):
McCartney would be interesting. You think one of the biggest
stars of all time, like not even musicians, just stars period.
Do you think a guy who is in the Beatles
would be interesting? Good guess? Ambitions for the podcast be Bennett,
I'd like to get it to a point where Rible's
tour and do some live shows, whether that's a guest
or doing mini versions where we take suggestions from the
audience to try to do a couple. It would be
(07:55):
fun to use this as a platform to perform live
and get in front of an audience. So I don't
do stand up, but he miss getting in of an audience. This,
my friends, is a cash grab podcast if I've ever
seen one, And they're doing okay so far. Kyle Mooney said,
I love the idea of doing live shows and letting
audience members potentially pitch podcast ideas for us, that would
be a terrible live show. Tell you, guys, it's fun
for us that it's ever changing and we don't know
(08:17):
what the rules are yet. We're sort of making them
up as we go along. Good luck. Paul Rodriguez has
been charged in connection with his arrest last month at
a Burbank restaurant. This from the Burbank City Attorney's Office.
Rodriguez faces misdemeanor counts of possession of a controlled substance
without a prescription and possession of a controlled substance. Paul's
(08:39):
been in the news quite a few times this year,
none of them good Fred Armison talked to the Observer
about playing Uncle Fester in Wednesday. He was asked if
it's intimidating to take on such a well established character.
Fred said, it's nothing but awesome. I enjoy looking at
pictures of the nineties film or sixties TV show going
that's us, We're the Festers. It's like putting on a uniform.
You have to honor previous iterations while also making the
(09:01):
character your own. Who does he past his version on
Jackie Coogan in the original Adams Family series. The things
he did with his face, sort of smiling even though
there was no reason a smile. It reminded me of
Danny DeVito and one flew over the Cuckoo's Nest. He's
in this mental institution, but he's smiling the whole time.
I thought that was kind of cool. All right, how
do you look like Uncle Fester? Armison said, I shaved
(09:22):
my head for a start. It's a better way to
go than bald caps. I shave my face thoroughly too
than put prosthetic covers over my eyebrows. Looking totally hairless
makes my forehead kind of hulking. They paint Dirk circles
under my eyes and give me a gray corpse like
pallor what I always forget is my hands. They shaved
them too, then put dirt under my fingernails as a
little finishing to tail. Wow, that's fun. Seth Myers was
(09:43):
happy he finally got on Trump's radar. Kamil Nanjianni was
the guest non Johnny read some of Trump's rants out
loud and said, what I love is that he called
Colbert untalented, he called Kimmel even less talented than Colbert,
and he called Fellon insecure. And for you, Seth Myers,
he can buy it all three Bill Angvall, so all
(10:04):
the stars Rebut and to think about golf is he's
playing with his wife, and it's fun when you both suck,
but when one of you starts getting better than the other,
it's not so much fun. So I'm trying to catch
up with missus Angvall. Now that I'm going back on
the road, I'll have to cut back a little on golfing.
And did you watch the paper? I haven't gotten to
it yet. We're in the middle of five days of
football if you're also into college football, so I don't
(10:26):
know when I'll get to the paper. Maybe I'll pick
in an episode here and there. I am curious about it,
but I have low expectations. Now the reviews are interesting.
Now stay with me here. Pay a little attention from
the Seattle Times, which is a newspaper. Their headline Office
spinoff and insult to comedy and journalism. You're paying attention here, right, yes, okay,
they wrote The Paper is the sort of show where
(10:47):
the moments it pauses for when you're meant to laugh
just become agonizing pieces where you awkwardly wait for the
next bit. In the ten episodes of the first season,
there are few memorable lines to speak of, and even
fewer actual scenarios that even elicit a chuckle yikes. Where
The Office was largely sharply written and earned its more
absurd moments, the Paper never has some of that spark.
(11:10):
All the force modern jokes about everything from catfishing to
clickbait fall completely flat, and there's no Jim Helper to
cut away to the New York Times, which is also
a newspaper. Right, They said, I have good news and
I have bad news. The team from the Office has
a new comedy of decline, but it still needs to
figure out what the story is. They say it starts
funny and competent, but the template is a problem. The
(11:31):
show feels too much like a Madlib's version of the
characters and dynamics from the Office and similar shows without
a firm identity of its own. Rolling Stone, which is
not a newspaper, that's a magazine, but they say the
paper is a methodonneed version of The Office. Alan Seppenwall says,
the new boss on this show Ned and Ned's worst
moments are probably a bit closer to Andy Bernard in
(11:52):
the post Michael Office seasons, when Andy himself became a
watered down Michael. That's not good at all. I hated
when Andy was in charge because it was like they
had old scripts that just crossed off where it said
Michael and scribbled in Andy. And that was when Andy
was good. Then when they started writing Andy Andy scripts,
it got even worse. Sepenwall says, what's odd is the
morning before the show came out, Peacock ordered a second season,
(12:14):
the kind of deal that was surely worked out long
in advance, and announced the day before the mirror. To
goose the hype cycle, he proposes that shows Daniels and
the other creators knew they had a long runway. That said,
Peacock has struggled mightily to launch successful comedies, even from
the producers of Office Serah sitcoms. Some examples of fel
the Peacock sitcoms include Girls Five Eva and Brother Ford Falls.
(12:38):
Daniel Feinberg, who used to do a podcast with the
aforementioned Alan Sepenwall. I think he got to the crux
of the reviews. He said by treating the paper business
as antiquated and doomed, the office probably offended some people
in that industry. Then I'm going to conjecture that's what's
happening here with people in newspapers. They don't like a
show about newspapers dying, and they probably have the same
(13:01):
kind of problems I would have if I watched a
show about podcasts or where I'd be like, that's not
how it works in real life. Anyway, that's your company
news on a Sunday, Go niners, see you to morrow.
Kalaroga Shark Media. Hey there, I'm Johnny Mack with your
daily comedy news. NFL Sunday Going Niners looking forward to
the Jets getting destroyed as expected. People are just wigged
that Cam Patterson, the guy from kill Tony and among
other things, but best known for Kill Tony, is joining
(00:25):
Saturday Night Live. Syracuse dot Com went digging and they
found new SNL cast member has strong feelings about Upstate
New York and the poll quote that place is terrible.
Upstate New York is actually very, very beautiful. Anyway, back
in January, Cam Patterson was on Kill Tony. The Syracuse
folks pulled a clip in the cliff Patterson says, I'm
(00:46):
gonna look into the camera when I say this f Rochester,
New York. Tony Hinchcliff, who's from Youngstown, Ohio, said, I
fully endorse cam statements about anywhere in Upstate New York.
It's incredible for anyone to stay there after being born,
and he's there. Patterson chimed in and said, yeah, that
place is terrible. Tony Hinchcliff said, people in Upstate New
York settled down with the first person they said, like you,
(01:07):
they get pregnant and then become stuck there forever in
eternal hell, while literally the rest of America laughs at you.
Patterson cut in again and said, f Rochester a garbage place.
F all two hundred something thousand now. During a stand
up show last December, apparently Patterson made some comments about
the food in Rochester. He showed a photo of the
garbage plate. We've talked about that in the past. The
(01:29):
garbage plate typically includes a base of home fries or
macaroni salad, top with meat like hamburgers or hot dogs,
and finished with a spicy meat and fused hot sauce, mustard,
and onions. Patterson called the meal pig slop. I'm saying,
if you want to come over today and watch football,
I have rid zone. If you bring home fries, top
with meat type with spicy sauce, mustard and onions, I'll
(01:51):
bring the beer. While I'm already home. I already have
the beer. You bring a garbage plate. There is a
lot of strife going on over at SNL. I've got
you stories I'm saving from Monday. Why John, Because Monday
shows are slightly more listened to than Sunday shows. So
I'll make those the lead on tomorrows. Over in the UK,
they're getting their own version of Saturday Night Live, and
they're going to be able to say some swear words.
(02:14):
The Sky Television network explains that in the UK, swearing
after nine pm is allowed. My recommendation, don't swear. I
mean the occasional swear word for effect works. But you know,
don't turn this into Saturday afing Night Live. You know
who doesn't swears that. Nate forgets it and he's doing Okay,
did you buy stock in Nate? Because he's hosting the Emmy.
(02:35):
He's a week from today. I hope you bought up.
He also announced a tour. See we're already making money
on our bet. The Big Dumb Eyes Tour in twenty
twenty six, sixty two Arena stops stretching through next August.
The tour begins January fifteenth in Eugene, Oregon, where most
tours begin. I'm not going to read you sixty five dates.
(02:55):
He's probably close enough to you. Like for me, I
could wait until set Saturday August eighth and go to
Newark and see him there. That's the third last show.
Who wraps up August fifteenth in Toronto little Howard Stern
news at the end of last week. The boss is
there over at Sirius XM must see the scuttle butt
and probably just knowing how people think over there, they
(03:16):
probably were a little nervous about the stock and need
it to protect it. The CEO over there, nice woman
named Jennifer, said it certainly has to make sense, meaning
a Stern deal, But we feel pretty good that we've
done this before and we'll see where it goes. I
think he's been quarter o a platform for over twenty years.
Some confident we'll get to the right place. A different
boss over there was asked how serious XM determines whether
or not they should do with deal. He said they
(03:37):
look at hours, listen to add revenue, social media and publicity.
As I have been saying, Howard will renew. I think
they'll drag this out and capitalize on all the free
publicity they're getting. This boss even said publicity is basically
in kind free marketing. So they'll drag out the story
and in December it'll be like, what do you know,
Howard's staying? What a shock? Good piece and slate under
(03:58):
the headline. Mark Marin thinks he's Comedy's Jay Robert Oppenheimer,
is he right? Luke Winkie writes, you can find the
formula Maren established all those years ago pretty much everywhere
in the industry. The Joe Rogan Experience, which debuted mere
months after w TF, shares the exact same DNA long form, meandering,
sometimes surprisingly personal chats with miscellaneous stand ups and gadflies.
(04:20):
This also goes for this past weekend with theo Vaughn
ponent O'Brien. You can even hear its influence on the
Ezra Klein Show, Luke continues. For a few years there,
the world of comedy was remade in Maren's image. Comedians
spield their guts both in his studio and on stage,
and comedy clubs increasingly began to resemble group therapy clinics.
As the WTF brand grew, Maren moved away from the
(04:40):
Rinky Dinks stand up anks that originally attracted me to
the show. He remained a sharp interviewer, but the star
power of the guests slowly grew brighter and more distant
from his own world. Over time, WTF lost its status
as this sacred place for embittered stand ups to try
to deduce the meeting of their careers. I think this
piece is on point. Instead, it just became an other
big ticket interview podcast, competing with a wide array of imitators.
(05:03):
Luke writes, tuning into the podcast every week didn't feel
quite as crucial as it once did. I belonged to
a demographic of people that is capable of caring massively
about the life and times of alt comedy lifer Brian Posain.
The show, in its original conception was exclusively concerned with
those nerdy fixations. But how can you find time for
him between Jeremy Allen White, Alexander Scoresgarden and Risque Hargatea,
(05:25):
all of who appeared on WTF this summer. And I'll
add personally, I didn't download those episodes. I'm with the
writer here. I've got a bunch of Marens in my phone.
Let me call it Maren. I'll tell you how I'm
doing this. So not downloaded Spike Lee, Regina King, Ben Stiller,
downloaded Tim Heidecker, Bow and Yang. I've listened to those already,
(05:46):
Sarah Sherman, I listened to quest Leven Aquafina, didn't listen
to I'm with Luke I would be much more excited
if the next guest was Brian Posain talking about comedy
for an hour. So the conclusion to this thing piece
is and I agree, maybe Maren has timed his exit
from WTF perfectly. I did put years on that Kyle
Mooney Beck Bennett podcast and the guest was Mark Maren.
(06:09):
As a professional podcasting expert, despite me broadcasting in the basement,
I do have some thoughts for the guys. Beck and Kyle.
You gotta pen write this down. Your audio is terrible
now as a podcasting expert, I'm going to guess the
reason your audio is terrible is because you're really making
a YouTube video and putting it out as a podcast.
The audio is so bad that, despite me being on
(06:31):
a very much Marin kick right now, I couldn't even
stick around for Maren. I just like, this is unlistenable.
It sounds like it's underwater. They got to get their
act together over there. Let's see how it's doing on
the charts. It's actually Thursday as I record this. I'm
pretty honest, I record the weekends in advance. What is
this thing called again? What's our podcast? The name of
(06:51):
this thing is even terrible is that what it's called? Yeah,
what's our podcast with Beck Bennett and Kyle Mooney. The
name's Terrible. It's up to number one sixteen overall, up
eleven spots and now number fourteen in the comedy subcategory.
So it's possible. Johnny Mack has no idea what he's
talking about, but personally I couldn't listen at all. Who
are their dream guests? They were asked. Beck Bennett said,
not necessarily my dream guest, but I think it would
(07:13):
be really fun to have Lorne Michaels on. You think,
especially right now, you think here, here's my dream guest list,
Taylor Swift, Lauren Michaels. I guess this week I would
take President Trump and RFK Junior. Beck Bennett was asked,
do you think would go along with it? I don't know.
I think it's below his standards. Kyle Money thinks Paul
(07:34):
McCartney would be interesting. You think one of the biggest
stars of all time, like not even musicians, just stars period.
Do you think a guy who is in the Beatles
would be interesting? Good guess? Ambitions for the podcast be Bennett,
I'd like to get it to a point where Rible's
tour and do some live shows, whether that's a guest
or doing mini versions where we take suggestions from the
audience to try to do a couple. It would be
(07:55):
fun to use this as a platform to perform live
and get in front of an audience. So I don't
do stand up, but he miss getting in of an audience. This,
my friends, is a cash grab podcast if I've ever
seen one, And they're doing okay so far. Kyle Mooney said,
I love the idea of doing live shows and letting
audience members potentially pitch podcast ideas for us, that would
be a terrible live show. Tell you, guys, it's fun
for us that it's ever changing and we don't know
(08:17):
what the rules are yet. We're sort of making them
up as we go along. Good luck. Paul Rodriguez has
been charged in connection with his arrest last month at
a Burbank restaurant. This from the Burbank City Attorney's Office.
Rodriguez faces misdemeanor counts of possession of a controlled substance
without a prescription and possession of a controlled substance. Paul's
(08:39):
been in the news quite a few times this year,
none of them good Fred Armison talked to the Observer
about playing Uncle Fester in Wednesday. He was asked if
it's intimidating to take on such a well established character.
Fred said, it's nothing but awesome. I enjoy looking at
pictures of the nineties film or sixties TV show going
that's us, We're the Festers. It's like putting on a uniform.
You have to honor previous iterations while also making the
(09:01):
character your own. Who does he past his version on
Jackie Coogan in the original Adams Family series. The things
he did with his face, sort of smiling even though
there was no reason a smile. It reminded me of
Danny DeVito and one flew over the Cuckoo's Nest. He's
in this mental institution, but he's smiling the whole time.
I thought that was kind of cool. All right, how
do you look like Uncle Fester? Armison said, I shaved
(09:22):
my head for a start. It's a better way to
go than bald caps. I shave my face thoroughly too
than put prosthetic covers over my eyebrows. Looking totally hairless
makes my forehead kind of hulking. They paint Dirk circles
under my eyes and give me a gray corpse like
pallor what I always forget is my hands. They shaved
them too, then put dirt under my fingernails as a
little finishing to tail. Wow, that's fun. Seth Myers was
(09:43):
happy he finally got on Trump's radar. Kamil Nanjianni was
the guest non Johnny read some of Trump's rants out
loud and said, what I love is that he called
Colbert untalented, he called Kimmel even less talented than Colbert,
and he called Fellon insecure. And for you, Seth Myers,
he can buy it all three Bill Angvall, so all
(10:04):
the stars Rebut and to think about golf is he's
playing with his wife, and it's fun when you both suck,
but when one of you starts getting better than the other,
it's not so much fun. So I'm trying to catch
up with missus Angvall. Now that I'm going back on
the road, I'll have to cut back a little on golfing.
And did you watch the paper? I haven't gotten to
it yet. We're in the middle of five days of
football if you're also into college football, so I don't
(10:26):
know when I'll get to the paper. Maybe I'll pick
in an episode here and there. I am curious about it,
but I have low expectations. Now the reviews are interesting.
Now stay with me here. Pay a little attention from
the Seattle Times, which is a newspaper. Their headline Office
spinoff and insult to comedy and journalism. You're paying attention here, right, yes, okay,
they wrote The Paper is the sort of show where
(10:47):
the moments it pauses for when you're meant to laugh
just become agonizing pieces where you awkwardly wait for the
next bit. In the ten episodes of the first season,
there are few memorable lines to speak of, and even
fewer actual scenarios that even elicit a chuckle yikes. Where
The Office was largely sharply written and earned its more
absurd moments, the Paper never has some of that spark.
(11:10):
All the force modern jokes about everything from catfishing to
clickbait fall completely flat, and there's no Jim Helper to
cut away to the New York Times, which is also
a newspaper. Right, They said, I have good news and
I have bad news. The team from the Office has
a new comedy of decline, but it still needs to
figure out what the story is. They say it starts
funny and competent, but the template is a problem. The
(11:31):
show feels too much like a Madlib's version of the
characters and dynamics from the Office and similar shows without
a firm identity of its own. Rolling Stone, which is
not a newspaper, that's a magazine, but they say the
paper is a methodonneed version of The Office. Alan Seppenwall says,
the new boss on this show Ned and Ned's worst
moments are probably a bit closer to Andy Bernard in
(11:52):
the post Michael Office seasons, when Andy himself became a
watered down Michael. That's not good at all. I hated
when Andy was in charge because it was like they
had old scripts that just crossed off where it said
Michael and scribbled in Andy. And that was when Andy
was good. Then when they started writing Andy Andy scripts,
it got even worse. Sepenwall says, what's odd is the
morning before the show came out, Peacock ordered a second season,
(12:14):
the kind of deal that was surely worked out long
in advance, and announced the day before the mirror. To
goose the hype cycle, he proposes that shows Daniels and
the other creators knew they had a long runway. That said,
Peacock has struggled mightily to launch successful comedies, even from
the producers of Office Serah sitcoms. Some examples of fel
the Peacock sitcoms include Girls Five Eva and Brother Ford Falls.
(12:38):
Daniel Feinberg, who used to do a podcast with the
aforementioned Alan Sepenwall. I think he got to the crux
of the reviews. He said by treating the paper business
as antiquated and doomed, the office probably offended some people
in that industry. Then I'm going to conjecture that's what's
happening here with people in newspapers. They don't like a
show about newspapers dying, and they probably have the same
(13:01):
kind of problems I would have if I watched a
show about podcasts or where I'd be like, that's not
how it works in real life. Anyway, that's your company
news on a Sunday, Go niners, see you to morrow.
Popular Podcasts
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton tackle the biggest stories in news, politics and current events with intelligence and humor. From the border crisis, to the madness of cancel culture and far-left missteps, Clay and Buck guide listeners through the latest headlines and hot topics with fun and entertaining conversations and opinions.