November 6, 2025 • 17 mins
The focus is on the back-and-forth between Jimmy Kimmel and various critics including Erica Kirk, widow of Charlie Kirk, and media personalities like Jesse Waters and Bill Maher. The controversy stems from a Trump joke by Kimmel, with Mac emphasizing it's a Trump joke rather than a comment on Charlie Kirk's murder. Mac also covers Jon Stewart's return to The Daily Show, Seth Meyers' ongoing feud with Donald Trump, and a contentious segment with Jimmy Fallon. Stephen Colbert shares anecdotes about the power of comedy, and Whitney Cummings announces her engagement to skateboarder Chris Cole, adding more celebrity buzz to the mix. Meanwhile, the Riyadh Comedy Festival and its participants receive criticism for ignoring human rights issues. Overall, it's a feisty episode filled with comedy industry news and personal insights.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Kalaroga Shark Media.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I gotta tell you, I'm exhausted just from writing today's script. Hello,
I'm Johnny Mack with your daily comedy news from the
Hollywood Reporter. In a previously unreported element of Jimmy Kimmel's
brief suspension from ABC, apparently representatives from the Sinclair Broadcasting
Group reached out to Erica Kirk, who's the widow of
Charlie Kirk, to see if the Sinclair's could help secure
(00:32):
an apology from Jimmy Kimmel. Erica Kirk told this on
Fox News. She was speaking to Jesse Waters. Waters asked Kirk, Now,
I'm going to editorialize here. I think this is a
very loaded question. I do not like the way this
question is phrased. Waters asked Kirk, Jimmy Kimmel lied about
your husband's murder and didn't really apologize. What would you
(00:52):
say to Jimmy Kimmel. Let me jump in again. No
one should be murdered, but Jimmy Kimmel lied about your
husband's murder. Listen once again to what Jimmy Kimmel actually said.
This is a Trump joke, Listen to it.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
We hit some new lows over the weekend with the
Magga Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered
Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and
do everything they can to score political points from it.
In between the finger pointing, there was grieving. On Friday,
the White House flew the flags at half staff, which
got some criticism, but on a human level, you can
(01:28):
see how hard the President is taking this.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I think don't down a lot of your friend.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Charlie Kirk asked sir personally, how are you holding up
for the last day and a half, Sir, I think
very good. And by the way, right there you see
all the Trumps. They've just started construction of the new
ball room for the White House, which is something they've
been trying to get, as you know, for about one
hundred and fifty years, and it's going to be a beauty.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yes, he's at the fourth stage of grief. Construction, there's demolition.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
This Stuck said.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
This is not how an adult grieves the murder of
somebody called a friend. This is how a four year
old mourns a goldfish.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Okay, back to Jesse Waters again, his phrasing Jimmy Kimmel
lied about your husband's murder and didn't really apologize. What
would you say to Jimmy Kimmel, Erica Kirk said, same
thing I told Sinclair. They asked, I haven't really told
anybody this, So they asked, do you want you to
give you an apology? Do you want to be on
a show? How can we make it right through our team?
I responded, I said, tell them, thank you. We receive
their note. This is not our issue, not our mess.
If you want to say I'm sorry to someone who's grieving,
(02:29):
go right ahead. But if that's not in your heart,
don't do it. I don't want it, I don't need it,
you may recall. Kimmel addressed this when he returned to air, saying,
I do want to make something clear because it's important
to me as a human that you understand it was
never my intention to make light of the murder of
a young man. I don't think there's anything funny about it.
Johnny Mack will comment again, it's clearly a Trump joke.
(02:49):
Listen to the President's reaction to someone being murdered. He
starts bragging about the ballroom.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
My ask sir, personally, now are you holding up over
the last day and a half, Sir.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I think good.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
And by the way, right there, you see all the Trumps.
They've just started construction of the new borrel for the
White House.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
On Monday, John Stewart's spycam went oh, Johnny Mack recorded
Tuesday and Wednesday to accommodate his schedule, this would be
a great time to announce that I'm coming back to
host the Daily Show for another year. Thanks John Stewart.
You couldn't have announced that ten minutes earlier. It was like,
as soon as I hit schedule, I was like, oh, really, dude,
come on. John Stewart will continue to host the Daily
(03:28):
Show on Monday. He will remain as executive producer. Ari
Pierce is head of Comedy Central and said John Stewart
continues to elevate the game he created. His return is
an ongoing commitment to the incisive comedy and sharp commentary
that define the Daily Show. The renewals will win for audiences,
for Comedy Central and for all our programming partners. We're
(03:49):
proud to support John and the extraordinary news team. Very cool.
I mentioned this the other day. If you listen to
the show even today, you might be like Johnny Mack.
It sounds like you're not totally on board with President Trump.
But sometimes I am totally on board with President Trump.
I mentioned this the other day when Trump wrote on
True Social Seth Myers of NBC may be the least
talented person to perform live in the history of television.
In fact, he may be the worst to perform live
(04:09):
or otherwise. Now. I don't know about that, but I
think the President and I are a line that we
want to make the late night franchise the twelve thirty
NBC thing previously hosted by Letterman. I think the President
just wants to make NBC's Late Night great again. And
I agree with the President on this fact. Seth Myers,
who hosts the show, for some reason, had a problem
with the president. He said on the show previously hosted
(04:30):
by David Letterman and Conan O'Brien, you wrote, I watched
this show the other night for the first time in years.
But just ten months ago you wrote, I got stuck
watching marble mouth Myers stuck. I find it hard to
believe you let the other people decide what to put on.
Everything about your vibe screams I call the clicker which
is it, you watched me for the first time in
years this week or you watch for the first time
in months in January? Do you not remember? Apparently mister
(04:54):
Myers and the President have been not getting along since
in twenty eleven. Seth Myers there at the White House
Correspondents dinner and joked Donald Trump has been saying that
he'll run for president as a Republican, which is surprising
since I assumed he was running as a choke and
so what we've learned here. But whether it's Seth Myers
or former President Obama, you don't want to make fun
(05:14):
of Donald Trump at the White House Correspondents dinner. He
will remember it. Jimmy Fallon catching grief now. I've seen
a couple reports of this. On Friday's Tonight Show, Fallon's
guest was Hunter Schaeffer, Hunter, who was trans was there
to discuss her role as Tigers Snow in The Hunger
Games The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes. During the segment,
(05:36):
Jimmy Fallon showed an old photograph of Schaeffer as a child,
taken before her transition, in which she wore a costume
inspired by the Hunger Games. Fallon then showed a clip
of Schaffer in the new film and commented, congratulations, Bud.
People on the internet are curious about Jimmy's choice of
the word bud in that context. I started to poke
(05:56):
away yesterday at that long, feisty GQ article Stephen Colbert,
and it'll probably took me a few days to get
through this. Colbert said, the great thing about comedy, not
to take anything away from drama, but the great thing
about comedy is you know when it works. The audience
makes this noise with their mouth, and that really can't
be faked, and you get instantly a sense of we're
here together, and you've hooked up your jumper cables to them.
(06:17):
I jumped a car on Sunday. By the way, it
took me a couple tries. I had my portable jumpers
and that wasn't taking the courts gooning click cick, click,
click click, and then I dug out my old school.
You know the long cables where you have a car
that's working and you jump a car. You know what
jumping a car is. I did at old school with
the long wires, not the portable jumpers. I usually can
get away with it on the portable jumpers. I did
it old school and I got it to run. Bought
(06:39):
a new battery two hundred and eighty bucks. But kudos
to the nice people at the AutoZone. They put it
in for me, easy peasy. I was done in ten minutes.
I digress. Colbert was doing that jumper cables analogy and said,
there's an energy that goes to you, to them and
them to you. When it's working really well, you walk
off stage with more energy than when you walked on stage.
I've never been sick on stage. I've been very sick.
(07:00):
I did a show where I had a burst appendix
and I did a double show. I didn't know my
appendix was burst. Wow. I didn't know what was wrong
with me. But I was sweating and thought I might
pass out, and I was in so much While you're laughing, John,
I don't know, but I thought I might pass out
and was in so much pain that I was crying
in commercial breaks. But during the show I could just
get through it, and I did two shows. I did
a double show that night. Then afterwards my wife made
(07:20):
sure that my driver took me straight to the hospital.
I got there and they said, oh, you have a
burst appendix. We have to take this out right now
a lot more to get to there. We have time.
I do the show three hundred and sixty five days
a year, plusant bonus episode, so I'll get to it,
trust me. Bill Mooher ripped Jimmy Kimmel for thanking everybody
but Bill Maher. Mar said, Look, Jimmy Parry doesn't like
(07:41):
me too much anymore because he thanked everybody but me.
And I was adamant about supporting him that week and
the next week. I can't lie and say I think
what he said was accurate, but I was adamant he
shouldn't be thrown off the air. He did a great show.
I went on and on, Bill, do you need me
to play the clip again? I don't want to play
the clip again. Why you just hit rewind like twelve
times and go back where I just played it. It's
a Trump joke. It's not a Charlie Kirk joke. It's
(08:02):
a Trump joke. The president was asked about somebody he's
supposedly really tight with being murdered, and the guy went, oh, yeah,
how about the beautiful construction behind me. It's a Trump joke.
Mar called Kimmel's format and the other late night shows
very predictable. Him and host like that. Quite frankly, they're
all quite similar in this regard is that they're ideologically
(08:23):
captured by one side. It's not just what I do,
what I'm doing. And so there's a reason why half
the country feels insulted by those hosts and has turned
off to them because it's just one very predictable point
of view. And this proves that it's often not completely accurate,
because that was not a smart thing to say that
this guy who shot Charlie Kirk was on the Mega team.
That is not what Kimmel was seeing. Kimmel was pointing out.
(08:44):
The Republicans were very quick to say, Hey, he's not
one of us, that's not he gonna listen to the joke, Bill,
do you need me? I'm gonna play it again, Bill.
Here it is again, Bill, Listen.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
We hit some new lows over the weekend with the
Maga gang desperately trying characterize this kid who murdered Charlie
Kirk as anything other than one of them.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Mark said, because that's just something the Blue Sky crowd
told themselves. And if you're that far in the bubble.
We don't really see both sides, and you don't. You're
gonna believe that blue sky point of view. Nobody's on
blue sky. Dude, what are you talking about? John Will
talk about something else. Okay. Vulture had a cool headline
caught my eye. It's called Leanne Morgan versus Leanne Morgan.
They were talking about her new special. Some spoilers here.
(09:27):
I saw Dylan in the Facebook group Daily Comedy News
Podcast Group. Please feel encouraged to join us. We've had
some new members who are participating, which is great. Like
when you guys start the conversations, that's awesome. To join.
You'll have to answer a few questions to make sure
you're not a pornbot. Some light spoilers for Leanne's special
coming up here. Vulture writes she's blown up. She's on
Amy Poehler's podcast and a movie playing Reese Witherspoon's sister
(09:48):
and starring as a version of herself in the new
Chucklory sitcom called Leanne. She's no longer just Leanne Morgan.
She's Leanne Morgan gone Hollywood. It's all happened very quickly
as a result unspeakable thing the new special is an incomplete,
underdeveloped look at whoever Morgan is now becoming someone famous
Vulture Rights. Morgan's great gift as a comedian is in
drawing vivid imagery. Unspeakable Things opens with a recap of
(10:11):
her life over the last few years, et cetera, et cetera.
Morgan positions herself throughout the specials opening sections. She may
find herself hanging out with Will Ferrell on the hair
and makeup crew of a straight to streaming rom com,
but they're celebrities. She's the one with big old mama breasts.
She's the one still grounded, still trapped by all the
rules of the human bodies and moral standards that keep
people from losing themselves to fame, and unlike everyone else
(10:32):
in Hollywood, She's got enough of a footback in the
real world that she can still see how wild the
world really is. Skipping ahead Vulture Rights. If all of
Unspeable Things was built around that premise, or at least
willing to go deeper into Morgan's ambivalence about Hollywood culture,
it would be a stronger hour. But after the first
twenty minutes of Morgan grappling with her current life Unspeakable
Things pivots backward into a family album of Morgan's past.
(10:54):
Hey listener checked in with me and ask me, am
I actually mad about the Riodd Comedy Festival or am
I doing a bit? And I said I would address
it on today's show. So I will address this now.
I did some soul searching. If I had been reached
out by the Reodd Comedy Festival, say in the spring,
and they said, hey, we're doing this festival. We'd like
to sponsor your podcast. Here's some money, I would have
(11:14):
said yes. I'm not going to sit here and be
like no, no, no, I would have said yes. If
they had invited me to the Reodd Comedy Festival, I
would have said, yes, stay with me. One of the
things I believe in is life is a journey. You change,
you get more informed, you get more information. I'm a
big believer in there's a philosophy that you are the
(11:34):
average of the five people you spend the most time around.
Those people do influence your opinions on things. So as
I believe life is a journey, you revisit positions, you
reconsider things. For example, in the past, I used language
I would not use now I've told the story before,
but I will tell it again. When Jim Brewer had
the show on Sirious, he had an opening where he
(11:57):
used a word that rhymed with me, and in the
opening to the show he would say, Hey, don't be
a maggot, come hang out. Jim, who I believe is
two years older than me and from Long Island and
I'm from Queen's, explained this on the air that there
was nothing sexual about how he meant it. He described
it as the kid who couldn't kick the kickball, And
(12:19):
with my Queen's mentality of in my mid thirties, I
understood what Jim meant. One day, a friend from the
radio station called out que the friend is gay. Came
by my office and was like, what are you doing?
What is your problem? And I'm like, huh what? And
the friend explained to me that the term is offensive.
And I still, twenty years later, fe're terrible. He educated me.
(12:43):
We took it off the air that day. I still
feel bad about it. Life is a journey. You change
your opinions if you listen to the episode with Jason Zinnemann,
if you listen to the beginning. I asked him about
Riod and I say something along the lines of, Jason,
can you help me sort out my feelings here? As
I dove more in to it, and as the listener
reached out to me, and as I thought about it
(13:03):
this morning, here's where I've landed. I think what bugs
me about it is that the comedians who went their
vibe just seems to be, Hey, you know what, I
got paid, so f off. You'll even hear a lot
of the comedians using the term bag, like yeah, I
got my bag, as if there's no other nuance to
the conversation, as if there's nothing to talk about human rights,
(13:26):
freedom of speech, kushogi. Now along the way, if I
had been running ads for the comedy Festival and I
started getting notes from listeners or people whose opinions I
take seriously, Hypothetically, let's just say, a guy from the
New York Times who I'm friendly with, shoots me a
note on the side. This did not happen, but hypothetically,
if I got a note from this person who I
respect and had been like, dude, what are you doing,
(13:48):
then I might have thought about it and I might
have changed. Now these are all hypotheticals. I don't know.
I think I would have been like, oh, yeah, I
shouldn't take that money, you're right, Or I shouldn't go
cover this comedy festival because of the things I became
educated on. So that's where I've kind of landed. But
I think the real thing that's coming out on the
air when I say this is just from the artists
(14:09):
who went. They're acting like, yeah, dude, they got a
Kentucky Fried chicken. Oh okay, they got a Kentucky Fried chicken,
So I guess everything's good. A guy didn't get chopped
up and put in a suitcase anyway, did you get
your bag? That's where I've landed now, Is it a
bit to say Comedian X, who's just back for the
Redd Comedy Festival announced a new tour. Is that a bit? Yeah,
it's a bit. Hopefully the podcast is entertaining. Hope it
(14:32):
doesn't come across as defensive. I hear some defensiveness in
my voice right now, and that's not how I mean
it at all. I'm just trying to explain and hope
that makes sense to you, and hope that makes sense
to you all the listeners, not just the one person
who emailed me on the side, So that's where kind
of at with it. I got my bag, so few
who cares out on the eight hundred pound Gerrilla YouTube
channel today Chat Daniels for reels. I like chat a lot.
(14:54):
That should be good to check out. The three to
one to two Comedy Festival continues seven o'clock at the Theater.
People are gonna get upset by this show existing it's
The Killers of Kill Tony. Speaking of which, did you
watch Saturday night Live Cam Patterson appeared. I don't think
they know what to do with him. I still think
he's one and out.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Unclear to me who's on the bill tonight. If you
look at the nineteenth the Killers of Kill Tony are
Ari Monte Hans, Kim, Martin Phillips and David Jolly. Not
sure who the killers are this evening. Meanwhile, at the
vic Theater, Justin Willman at seven the show I would
go to. If you're in Chicago, you should absolutely go
see Pete Holmes. I've never been disappointed by Pete Holmes.
(15:32):
He's fantastic live. He's at the Riviera Theater and John
Goblkin is at seven at Zany's Downtown and at nine
point fifteen a roast battle at Zany's Downtown. So that's
a good night at the festival. And congratulations to Whitney
Cummings who's just back from the Riod Comedy Festival. She
can use that money to have a fabulous wedding, Whitney Cummings,
and now she's engaged to professional skateboarder Chris Cole. On
(15:55):
her podcast, Whitney Cummings said, I got engaged last week.
I don't have to tell everybody. I'm embarrassed to even
talk about it and just trying to get it out
of the way. TMZ says Cole proposed to Whitney during
their daily hike in Tipanga Canyon, back behind her house.
TMZ shared a photo of the moment. Is a good
thing there happened to be a photographer there, showing Cole
(16:16):
down on one knee and Whitney Cummings kneeling in front
of him with her hand covering her face, seemingly overwhelmed
with emotion. Definitely not a stage photo. Just I guess
TMZ has stalkers in the woods who happen to casture
a proposal. I don't know it wasn't there, don't know
what happened. Whitney said it was so awkward. I was like, Okay, cool,
now what and I was like, should we go to
(16:36):
dinner or something? Cole had no plan for afterwards. As
soon as he got the ring on, he was like,
I never have to try to impress you again. That's funny.
Cole then suggested dinner at Pizza Hut. Cummings joked he's
never pitched Pizza Hut before. I haven't spoken to him
since Pizza Hut's not our thing, Like it's not an
inside joke. We've never talked about Pizza Hut before. Well,
congratulations to Whitney and mister Cole and that he's a
(16:59):
pretty feisty l Comedy News on a Thursday. It's been
a weird month and a half here at the show,
but numbers are up, so somebody's enjoying it, and somebody
is you, and I thank you for listening. To see
you tomorrow.
Kalaroga Shark Media.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I gotta tell you, I'm exhausted just from writing today's script. Hello,
I'm Johnny Mack with your daily comedy news from the
Hollywood Reporter. In a previously unreported element of Jimmy Kimmel's
brief suspension from ABC, apparently representatives from the Sinclair Broadcasting
Group reached out to Erica Kirk, who's the widow of
Charlie Kirk, to see if the Sinclair's could help secure
(00:32):
an apology from Jimmy Kimmel. Erica Kirk told this on
Fox News. She was speaking to Jesse Waters. Waters asked Kirk, Now,
I'm going to editorialize here. I think this is a
very loaded question. I do not like the way this
question is phrased. Waters asked Kirk, Jimmy Kimmel lied about
your husband's murder and didn't really apologize. What would you
(00:52):
say to Jimmy Kimmel. Let me jump in again. No
one should be murdered, but Jimmy Kimmel lied about your
husband's murder. Listen once again to what Jimmy Kimmel actually said.
This is a Trump joke, Listen to it.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
We hit some new lows over the weekend with the
Magga Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered
Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and
do everything they can to score political points from it.
In between the finger pointing, there was grieving. On Friday,
the White House flew the flags at half staff, which
got some criticism, but on a human level, you can
(01:28):
see how hard the President is taking this.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I think don't down a lot of your friend.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Charlie Kirk asked sir personally, how are you holding up
for the last day and a half, Sir, I think
very good. And by the way, right there you see
all the Trumps. They've just started construction of the new
ball room for the White House, which is something they've
been trying to get, as you know, for about one
hundred and fifty years, and it's going to be a beauty.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yes, he's at the fourth stage of grief. Construction, there's demolition.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
This Stuck said.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
This is not how an adult grieves the murder of
somebody called a friend. This is how a four year
old mourns a goldfish.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Okay, back to Jesse Waters again, his phrasing Jimmy Kimmel
lied about your husband's murder and didn't really apologize. What
would you say to Jimmy Kimmel, Erica Kirk said, same
thing I told Sinclair. They asked, I haven't really told
anybody this, So they asked, do you want you to
give you an apology? Do you want to be on
a show? How can we make it right through our team?
I responded, I said, tell them, thank you. We receive
their note. This is not our issue, not our mess.
If you want to say I'm sorry to someone who's grieving,
(02:29):
go right ahead. But if that's not in your heart,
don't do it. I don't want it, I don't need it,
you may recall. Kimmel addressed this when he returned to air, saying,
I do want to make something clear because it's important
to me as a human that you understand it was
never my intention to make light of the murder of
a young man. I don't think there's anything funny about it.
Johnny Mack will comment again, it's clearly a Trump joke.
(02:49):
Listen to the President's reaction to someone being murdered. He
starts bragging about the ballroom.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
My ask sir, personally, now are you holding up over
the last day and a half, Sir.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I think good.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
And by the way, right there, you see all the Trumps.
They've just started construction of the new borrel for the
White House.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
On Monday, John Stewart's spycam went oh, Johnny Mack recorded
Tuesday and Wednesday to accommodate his schedule, this would be
a great time to announce that I'm coming back to
host the Daily Show for another year. Thanks John Stewart.
You couldn't have announced that ten minutes earlier. It was like,
as soon as I hit schedule, I was like, oh, really, dude,
come on. John Stewart will continue to host the Daily
(03:28):
Show on Monday. He will remain as executive producer. Ari
Pierce is head of Comedy Central and said John Stewart
continues to elevate the game he created. His return is
an ongoing commitment to the incisive comedy and sharp commentary
that define the Daily Show. The renewals will win for audiences,
for Comedy Central and for all our programming partners. We're
(03:49):
proud to support John and the extraordinary news team. Very cool.
I mentioned this the other day. If you listen to
the show even today, you might be like Johnny Mack.
It sounds like you're not totally on board with President Trump.
But sometimes I am totally on board with President Trump.
I mentioned this the other day when Trump wrote on
True Social Seth Myers of NBC may be the least
talented person to perform live in the history of television.
In fact, he may be the worst to perform live
(04:09):
or otherwise. Now. I don't know about that, but I
think the President and I are a line that we
want to make the late night franchise the twelve thirty
NBC thing previously hosted by Letterman. I think the President
just wants to make NBC's Late Night great again. And
I agree with the President on this fact. Seth Myers,
who hosts the show, for some reason, had a problem
with the president. He said on the show previously hosted
(04:30):
by David Letterman and Conan O'Brien, you wrote, I watched
this show the other night for the first time in years.
But just ten months ago you wrote, I got stuck
watching marble mouth Myers stuck. I find it hard to
believe you let the other people decide what to put on.
Everything about your vibe screams I call the clicker which
is it, you watched me for the first time in
years this week or you watch for the first time
in months in January? Do you not remember? Apparently mister
(04:54):
Myers and the President have been not getting along since
in twenty eleven. Seth Myers there at the White House
Correspondents dinner and joked Donald Trump has been saying that
he'll run for president as a Republican, which is surprising
since I assumed he was running as a choke and
so what we've learned here. But whether it's Seth Myers
or former President Obama, you don't want to make fun
(05:14):
of Donald Trump at the White House Correspondents dinner. He
will remember it. Jimmy Fallon catching grief now. I've seen
a couple reports of this. On Friday's Tonight Show, Fallon's
guest was Hunter Schaeffer, Hunter, who was trans was there
to discuss her role as Tigers Snow in The Hunger
Games The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes. During the segment,
(05:36):
Jimmy Fallon showed an old photograph of Schaeffer as a child,
taken before her transition, in which she wore a costume
inspired by the Hunger Games. Fallon then showed a clip
of Schaffer in the new film and commented, congratulations, Bud.
People on the internet are curious about Jimmy's choice of
the word bud in that context. I started to poke
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away yesterday at that long, feisty GQ article Stephen Colbert,
and it'll probably took me a few days to get
through this. Colbert said, the great thing about comedy, not
to take anything away from drama, but the great thing
about comedy is you know when it works. The audience
makes this noise with their mouth, and that really can't
be faked, and you get instantly a sense of we're
here together, and you've hooked up your jumper cables to them.
(06:17):
I jumped a car on Sunday. By the way, it
took me a couple tries. I had my portable jumpers
and that wasn't taking the courts gooning click cick, click,
click click, and then I dug out my old school.
You know the long cables where you have a car
that's working and you jump a car. You know what
jumping a car is. I did at old school with
the long wires, not the portable jumpers. I usually can
get away with it on the portable jumpers. I did
it old school and I got it to run. Bought
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a new battery two hundred and eighty bucks. But kudos
to the nice people at the AutoZone. They put it
in for me, easy peasy. I was done in ten minutes.
I digress. Colbert was doing that jumper cables analogy and said,
there's an energy that goes to you, to them and
them to you. When it's working really well, you walk
off stage with more energy than when you walked on stage.
I've never been sick on stage. I've been very sick.
(07:00):
I did a show where I had a burst appendix
and I did a double show. I didn't know my
appendix was burst. Wow. I didn't know what was wrong
with me. But I was sweating and thought I might
pass out, and I was in so much While you're laughing, John,
I don't know, but I thought I might pass out
and was in so much pain that I was crying
in commercial breaks. But during the show I could just
get through it, and I did two shows. I did
a double show that night. Then afterwards my wife made
(07:20):
sure that my driver took me straight to the hospital.
I got there and they said, oh, you have a
burst appendix. We have to take this out right now
a lot more to get to there. We have time.
I do the show three hundred and sixty five days
a year, plusant bonus episode, so I'll get to it,
trust me. Bill Mooher ripped Jimmy Kimmel for thanking everybody
but Bill Maher. Mar said, Look, Jimmy Parry doesn't like
(07:41):
me too much anymore because he thanked everybody but me.
And I was adamant about supporting him that week and
the next week. I can't lie and say I think
what he said was accurate, but I was adamant he
shouldn't be thrown off the air. He did a great show.
I went on and on, Bill, do you need me
to play the clip again? I don't want to play
the clip again. Why you just hit rewind like twelve
times and go back where I just played it. It's
a Trump joke. It's not a Charlie Kirk joke. It's
(08:02):
a Trump joke. The president was asked about somebody he's
supposedly really tight with being murdered, and the guy went, oh, yeah,
how about the beautiful construction behind me. It's a Trump joke.
Mar called Kimmel's format and the other late night shows
very predictable. Him and host like that. Quite frankly, they're
all quite similar in this regard is that they're ideologically
(08:23):
captured by one side. It's not just what I do,
what I'm doing. And so there's a reason why half
the country feels insulted by those hosts and has turned
off to them because it's just one very predictable point
of view. And this proves that it's often not completely accurate,
because that was not a smart thing to say that
this guy who shot Charlie Kirk was on the Mega team.
That is not what Kimmel was seeing. Kimmel was pointing out.
(08:44):
The Republicans were very quick to say, Hey, he's not
one of us, that's not he gonna listen to the joke, Bill,
do you need me? I'm gonna play it again, Bill.
Here it is again, Bill, Listen.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
We hit some new lows over the weekend with the
Maga gang desperately trying characterize this kid who murdered Charlie
Kirk as anything other than one of them.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Mark said, because that's just something the Blue Sky crowd
told themselves. And if you're that far in the bubble.
We don't really see both sides, and you don't. You're
gonna believe that blue sky point of view. Nobody's on
blue sky. Dude, what are you talking about? John Will
talk about something else. Okay. Vulture had a cool headline
caught my eye. It's called Leanne Morgan versus Leanne Morgan.
They were talking about her new special. Some spoilers here.
(09:27):
I saw Dylan in the Facebook group Daily Comedy News
Podcast Group. Please feel encouraged to join us. We've had
some new members who are participating, which is great. Like
when you guys start the conversations, that's awesome. To join.
You'll have to answer a few questions to make sure
you're not a pornbot. Some light spoilers for Leanne's special
coming up here. Vulture writes she's blown up. She's on
Amy Poehler's podcast and a movie playing Reese Witherspoon's sister
(09:48):
and starring as a version of herself in the new
Chucklory sitcom called Leanne. She's no longer just Leanne Morgan.
She's Leanne Morgan gone Hollywood. It's all happened very quickly
as a result unspeakable thing the new special is an incomplete,
underdeveloped look at whoever Morgan is now becoming someone famous
Vulture Rights. Morgan's great gift as a comedian is in
drawing vivid imagery. Unspeakable Things opens with a recap of
(10:11):
her life over the last few years, et cetera, et cetera.
Morgan positions herself throughout the specials opening sections. She may
find herself hanging out with Will Ferrell on the hair
and makeup crew of a straight to streaming rom com,
but they're celebrities. She's the one with big old mama breasts.
She's the one still grounded, still trapped by all the
rules of the human bodies and moral standards that keep
people from losing themselves to fame, and unlike everyone else
(10:32):
in Hollywood, She's got enough of a footback in the
real world that she can still see how wild the
world really is. Skipping ahead Vulture Rights. If all of
Unspeable Things was built around that premise, or at least
willing to go deeper into Morgan's ambivalence about Hollywood culture,
it would be a stronger hour. But after the first
twenty minutes of Morgan grappling with her current life Unspeakable
Things pivots backward into a family album of Morgan's past.
(10:54):
Hey listener checked in with me and ask me, am
I actually mad about the Riodd Comedy Festival or am
I doing a bit? And I said I would address
it on today's show. So I will address this now.
I did some soul searching. If I had been reached
out by the Reodd Comedy Festival, say in the spring,
and they said, hey, we're doing this festival. We'd like
to sponsor your podcast. Here's some money, I would have
(11:14):
said yes. I'm not going to sit here and be
like no, no, no, I would have said yes. If
they had invited me to the Reodd Comedy Festival, I
would have said, yes, stay with me. One of the
things I believe in is life is a journey. You change,
you get more informed, you get more information. I'm a
big believer in there's a philosophy that you are the
(11:34):
average of the five people you spend the most time around.
Those people do influence your opinions on things. So as
I believe life is a journey, you revisit positions, you
reconsider things. For example, in the past, I used language
I would not use now I've told the story before,
but I will tell it again. When Jim Brewer had
the show on Sirious, he had an opening where he
(11:57):
used a word that rhymed with me, and in the
opening to the show he would say, Hey, don't be
a maggot, come hang out. Jim, who I believe is
two years older than me and from Long Island and
I'm from Queen's, explained this on the air that there
was nothing sexual about how he meant it. He described
it as the kid who couldn't kick the kickball, And
(12:19):
with my Queen's mentality of in my mid thirties, I
understood what Jim meant. One day, a friend from the
radio station called out que the friend is gay. Came
by my office and was like, what are you doing?
What is your problem? And I'm like, huh what? And
the friend explained to me that the term is offensive.
And I still, twenty years later, fe're terrible. He educated me.
(12:43):
We took it off the air that day. I still
feel bad about it. Life is a journey. You change
your opinions if you listen to the episode with Jason Zinnemann,
if you listen to the beginning. I asked him about
Riod and I say something along the lines of, Jason,
can you help me sort out my feelings here? As
I dove more in to it, and as the listener
reached out to me, and as I thought about it
(13:03):
this morning, here's where I've landed. I think what bugs
me about it is that the comedians who went their
vibe just seems to be, Hey, you know what, I
got paid, so f off. You'll even hear a lot
of the comedians using the term bag, like yeah, I
got my bag, as if there's no other nuance to
the conversation, as if there's nothing to talk about human rights,
(13:26):
freedom of speech, kushogi. Now along the way, if I
had been running ads for the comedy Festival and I
started getting notes from listeners or people whose opinions I
take seriously, Hypothetically, let's just say, a guy from the
New York Times who I'm friendly with, shoots me a
note on the side. This did not happen, but hypothetically,
if I got a note from this person who I
respect and had been like, dude, what are you doing,
(13:48):
then I might have thought about it and I might
have changed. Now these are all hypotheticals. I don't know.
I think I would have been like, oh, yeah, I
shouldn't take that money, you're right, Or I shouldn't go
cover this comedy festival because of the things I became
educated on. So that's where I've kind of landed. But
I think the real thing that's coming out on the
air when I say this is just from the artists
(14:09):
who went. They're acting like, yeah, dude, they got a
Kentucky Fried chicken. Oh okay, they got a Kentucky Fried chicken,
So I guess everything's good. A guy didn't get chopped
up and put in a suitcase anyway, did you get
your bag? That's where I've landed now, Is it a
bit to say Comedian X, who's just back for the
Redd Comedy Festival announced a new tour. Is that a bit? Yeah,
it's a bit. Hopefully the podcast is entertaining. Hope it
(14:32):
doesn't come across as defensive. I hear some defensiveness in
my voice right now, and that's not how I mean
it at all. I'm just trying to explain and hope
that makes sense to you, and hope that makes sense
to you all the listeners, not just the one person
who emailed me on the side, So that's where kind
of at with it. I got my bag, so few
who cares out on the eight hundred pound Gerrilla YouTube
channel today Chat Daniels for reels. I like chat a lot.
(14:54):
That should be good to check out. The three to
one to two Comedy Festival continues seven o'clock at the Theater.
People are gonna get upset by this show existing it's
The Killers of Kill Tony. Speaking of which, did you
watch Saturday night Live Cam Patterson appeared. I don't think
they know what to do with him. I still think
he's one and out.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Unclear to me who's on the bill tonight. If you
look at the nineteenth the Killers of Kill Tony are
Ari Monte Hans, Kim, Martin Phillips and David Jolly. Not
sure who the killers are this evening. Meanwhile, at the
vic Theater, Justin Willman at seven the show I would
go to. If you're in Chicago, you should absolutely go
see Pete Holmes. I've never been disappointed by Pete Holmes.
(15:32):
He's fantastic live. He's at the Riviera Theater and John
Goblkin is at seven at Zany's Downtown and at nine
point fifteen a roast battle at Zany's Downtown. So that's
a good night at the festival. And congratulations to Whitney
Cummings who's just back from the Riod Comedy Festival. She
can use that money to have a fabulous wedding, Whitney Cummings,
and now she's engaged to professional skateboarder Chris Cole. On
(15:55):
her podcast, Whitney Cummings said, I got engaged last week.
I don't have to tell everybody. I'm embarrassed to even
talk about it and just trying to get it out
of the way. TMZ says Cole proposed to Whitney during
their daily hike in Tipanga Canyon, back behind her house.
TMZ shared a photo of the moment. Is a good
thing there happened to be a photographer there, showing Cole
(16:16):
down on one knee and Whitney Cummings kneeling in front
of him with her hand covering her face, seemingly overwhelmed
with emotion. Definitely not a stage photo. Just I guess
TMZ has stalkers in the woods who happen to casture
a proposal. I don't know it wasn't there, don't know
what happened. Whitney said it was so awkward. I was like, Okay, cool,
now what and I was like, should we go to
(16:36):
dinner or something? Cole had no plan for afterwards. As
soon as he got the ring on, he was like,
I never have to try to impress you again. That's funny.
Cole then suggested dinner at Pizza Hut. Cummings joked he's
never pitched Pizza Hut before. I haven't spoken to him
since Pizza Hut's not our thing, Like it's not an
inside joke. We've never talked about Pizza Hut before. Well,
congratulations to Whitney and mister Cole and that he's a
(16:59):
pretty feisty l Comedy News on a Thursday. It's been
a weird month and a half here at the show,
but numbers are up, so somebody's enjoying it, and somebody
is you, and I thank you for listening. To see
you tomorrow.
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