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October 9, 2025 14 mins
Johnny Mac discusses Marc Maron's emotional farewell announcement on his blog, leading up to his final podcast episodes.

The main focus, however, is on Bill Burr's appearance on Conan O'Brien's podcast, where Burr defends performing at the Riyadh Comedy Festival amidst criticism.

Conan has been criticized for not challenging Burr's statements.

The discussion also highlights similar criticisms faced by Aziz Ansari for participating in the festival,

Additionally, Jim Gaffigan's collaboration with Buzzards Roost Distillery is mentioned, as well as Jimmy Fallon's and Taylor Tomlinson's upcoming projects and shows.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Callaroga Shark Media.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hey, massive Bill Burr story again today. Hi, I'm Johnny
Mack with your daily comedy news. But I do want
to lead off with Mark Maron because this one kind
of gut punched me. This from Mark Maren's blog on
Markmeron dot com, and we knew this was coming, but this,
like I said, this was a gut punch. Maren wrote,
almost done, folks. I'm excited, but I'm also sorry to

(00:31):
leave you people. I'll save the week, be goodbye for
next week, and stay strong this week. Well, actually, this
Thursday show is all me talking about how I feel,
and then Monday we are the final episode, so I'll
leave it at that. You can listen. I don't want
to spoil it by writing everything I say, So Today's
show on WTF with Mark Maron is Mark solo, and
then Monday is whatever the final episode is. Okay, Bill
Bird did Conan O'Brien's podcast. It's not publicly available yet,

(00:55):
but the private feed for subscribers is out, and both
GIBA and The Hollywood Reporter have covered this. Now. If
you're a relatively new listener, I will sometimes do what
I call a half ass impression I'm not trying to
do an impression of someone, but I'll sometimes change my
normal speech pattern to try and mimic ish the way
somebody else speaks. I'm going to do that with Burr

(01:16):
here because I don't have the audio for you anyway,
Conan was taping Conan O'Brien needs a friend, Bill Burr
showed up. Pajeeba wrote of those who attended and reported
on a Reddit thread, all were disappointed in Bill Burr's
self righteous rant. Based on their accounts, Burr repeated many
of the talking points he's already delivered on his own
podcast Freedom, and you can hear those comments on Wednesday's

(01:37):
version of this very podcast. But Pajiba says the real
disappointment from those who chimed in was Conan O'Brien himself,
who didn't push back. At least Jimmy Kimmel reminded his ease.
I'm sorry that the Saudi Royals are very bad people.
We will get to that after the bur stuff, And
at one point, Conan even compared what Burr did in
Saudi Arabia to his own travel show. Conan O'Brien must

(01:58):
go right, so the Hollywood Reporter pulled something that looks
at least transcript esh from the Hard Reporter review, Bill
Burr said, and I'll clean it up that Burr doesn't
give an F what all these phony f and people
are saying. I don't really giving f Conan, and it
affects my career. I've been lax enough of my life.
I'll have f it sit home for a little bit.
I'll actually tell you lax is slightly Saturday in Saudi Arabia.

(02:18):
I've been going through this BS the whole week. My
agent never even call me. He's been under his f
and desk hearing me on the podcast saying what I
said here that a good time and it was a
positive thing. So he thought that was the mindset that
I was in through the week. One of my favorite
things is the scumbag club owner texting my tour manager
because he heard I was over there. He goes, bring
back a burke in a sweatshirt and size oppression. That
was his jokes. I wrote back to him, why don't

(02:39):
you concentrate in not ripping off comedians? You f and
piece of s And he never wrote back. Bird tells
Conan that events like the Riodd Comedy festival have to
happen in order to push progress forward. It was necessary.
It felt right afterward a vibe with them and f
they were funny, f and people. I don't know what
to tell you. I had a good time. I love
to do with the podcast. Man, I appreciate having me on,
especially during all this BF. Your real friend, dude, Pagieba said.

(03:02):
What was most disappointing was Conan acting as a yes
man the whole time. After realizing no one on that
stage was going to try and have an honest conversation
with Bill, we were hoping it would move on, but
after a while didn't seem like Bill want to talk
about anything else, so we just left Pageeba says. Another
part of the conversation, Bill Burst said that it wouldn't
be very different if he took money from the English

(03:23):
or the London government since they have such a bloody past,
or our own American government. So the episode's out now.
If you want to be a paid subscriber, it will
be available for free on October fifteenth. Before we get
to the easeas and sorry thing, I've been thinking about this.
Here's what's going to happen here, Everyone including me we're
all outraged this week, and you know what, Bill Burr's

(03:43):
going to announce, He's playing the Garden. He's going to
sell out in two seconds. And Dave Chappelle's going to
sell out the Garden two seconds, and Louis c k
is going to sell out the Garden two seconds, and
Tom Sigore is going to sell out the Garden in
two seconds. These guys may have added one sentence to
their obituary, depending on how long that obituary is. Some
comedians like Jessica Curson I think are going to get
the forever eye roll. I don't think Bill Burr is

(04:05):
helping himself here, but I think somebody like Tom Sagora,
somebody like Sebastian Maniscalco, I think they're just gonna say,
at long, just fine, and no one's gonna care be
not so canceled disease and sorry. You may recall he
was canceled a few years ago. Well he's back and
he was on with Jimmy Kimmel who asked him about
the Riod Comedy Festival. I watched these clips. Zesu's body

(04:27):
language is very nervous. He's looking down in a way
a lot. I'm not sure his body believes the words
that his mind is saying.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
I want to ask you about this comedy festival over
in Saudi Arabia that you were part of. Was that
this weekend of that went on?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
It's going on now and oh it's still going on, right,
I think so. I'm not sure, but this.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Is obviously this is something that's become a big part
of the news because people, a lot of comedians especially,
are very upset because this is the people who paid
the comedians to come to the This are not good people.
They are It's a pretty brutal regime. They've done a
lot of horrible, horrible things, and so people are questioning
why you would go over there and take their money

(05:13):
to perform in front of these people. And I'm just
curious because you were there, you made this decision. I'm
curious as to why you decided to do that.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
No, I'm glad you asked, because you know, it's something
I put a lot of thought into. And you know,
I have an aunt that lived there for a while
and I talked to her about this, and she said,
you know, there's people over there that don't agree with
the stuff the government's doing, and to ascribe like the
worst behavior of the government onto those people. It's not fair,

(05:43):
just like there's people in America that don't agree with
the things that government right.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, Kima wasn't buying any of that.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
And follow it up, the government over there is arresting
people for peaceful protes I mean, I know, yeah, we're
doing horrible things over here, but they murdered a journalist.
I mean it's like, you know, it's these are not
good people over there, so are the You did you
deal with those people specifically?

Speaker 3 (06:08):
No, I was just there to do a show for
the people. And you know, I talked to my wife
about this, you know, before I went, and she said,
you know, whenever there's repressive societies like this, they try
to keep things out, whether it's rock and roll music
or you know, blue jeans, because it makes people curious
about outside ideas, outside values. And this is a very
young country. Half the countries under the age of twenty five,

(06:29):
and things can really change. And to me, like a
comedy festival felt like something that's pushing things to be
more open and to push a dialogue. And you kind
of have to make a choice of whether you're going
to isolate or engage. And for me, especially being me
and looking the way I do and being from a
Muslim background, it felt like something I should be a

(06:49):
part of and I hope it pushes things in a
posta direction.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Kimmeill was a very good follow up here.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Did you have these concerns when you performed in India
many years ago?

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, I mean there's stuff there that you know, I
don't feel great about, and and I did it, and
you know, I'm Indian and it was an important experience
for me. And you know, comedy in India is really thriving,
and people are are talking about things that are happening
there and some of them are even you know, go
to jail and things. But for this re odd thing,
you know, it was something I really thought about, and

(07:21):
even before I went, I said, you know, I'm going
to do this and and I hope it's positive. And
you know, if I'm going to do this, I share
the concerns that people have brought up and it's all valid.
And I said to myself and my team, I said,
if we do this, part of the fee should go
to support causes that support uh, you know, free press
and human rights and.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
Which causes specifically, or you think I think I read
about Reporters without Borders, which I think, and and Human
Rights Watch as well, and you know it's a complicated issue,
but you know, I felt like it was it was
something that's pushing things in the right I hope.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
And then one more clip from the Not So Cancel Disease.
Sorry again, his body language is very defensive in this segment.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
You felt that it was that in the long term,
this will be a positive people seeing comedy and American
comedy and Freeze.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
I mean, so many people were there talking about stuff,
and I hope people see that and they go, wow,
this was really great and I want more of this,
not just in comedy but in everything, to push things
to be more open and to have the ability to
say what we want and to have dissent and all
this stuff, and hopefully it's a step in that direction.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Nice job, Jimmy Kimmel. Tom Sagora posted last night we
went to the only comedy club in Riot and had
an amazing time. The comics were so warm and welcoming
and the crowd was incredible. We did the exact same
sets we were doing the States, and they were acted
just like a crowd at home would well minus the
bit on pickleball. So glad we went, and tonight we'll
do the arena. Lots of love to all the comics
we met and to the crowd that came out. The

(08:54):
comments on Segora's a social media post did not go
so well, but again, he'll sell out the garden to
seconds at the Redd Comedy Festival tonight. Andrew Schultz. We're
told Andrew Schultz always comes close to the line with
his jokes. He's quick witted, fearless, and has made a
name for himself on social media. Let's find out how
fearless you are, Andrew, go for it. A Daria go
for It. British magician Ben Hort brings sleek showmanship and

(09:17):
mind bending allusions to the Reod Comedy Festival. You may
know him from Britain's Got Talent. Hannibal Buris brings his
dry wit and deceptively laid back delivery to the Read
Comedy Festival, promising a set that blends sharp observational beats
with off kilter asides. I love the copy here, like
whoever wrote this the choices of words. I don't know

(09:38):
if this is accidental A subconscious somebody screaming for help.
I've been getting these from factmagazines, dot com, and I
don't know where they pulled them from. Here's what I'm
zerving in on. In the Hannibal Buris description, we're told
he slides from observed life hacks to pop culture de
tours with effortless timing. And I've noticed all these description

(09:59):
will have words like hacks or sharpened. I don't know
there's some subtle commentary there. Sebastian Manascalco, we're told he's
influenced by greats like George Carlin and Jerry Seinfeld. That's it.
No description of his comedy. I love it all. This
Ria talk is distracting us from what should be the
major comedy topic this week, which is, of course, Jim

(10:20):
Gaffigan's Bourbon set. Tonight is the super cool after party.
I think tickets are still available if you want to go.
You can't just go to the after party. You must
have attended Jim's bourbon comedy show. They remind us, don't
forget to show your ticket, and they hope to see
you there. Hashtag Louisville, hashtag Bourbon, hashtag Kentucky hashtag father
Time hashtag October and there's big bourbon news. Jim Gaffigan

(10:44):
has partnered with Buzzard's Roost Distillery on a one of
a kind, single barrel bourbon selection. That's right, a special
release six year old whiskey featuring a mash bill of
seventy five percent corn, twenty one percent rye and four
percent malted barley. Buzzards Rus will be pouring samples at
the Really Cool after party tonight, which is at the
Last Refuge six hunderd East Market Street, you know the place,

(11:05):
and bottles will be available exclusively at Buzzard's Roost Distillery
and Tasting Room on six twenty four West Main. The
retail price per bottle, which features a commemorative Jim Gaffigan label,
is one hundred and twenty five dollars. Late Nighter says
if you've seen headlines about Jimmy Kimmel losing half its audience,
it hasn't. Are the numbers down from when he came

(11:27):
right back, of course they are, but Late Nighter says
if you compare Kimmel's numbers last week to two weeks earlier,
he was actually up forty five percent in total viewers
and fifty two percent among younger adults. He won the
eleven thirty five slot for the second consecutive week. We'll
see if he wins this week. Jimmy Fallon had on
Taylor Swift. Late Nighter says, yes, Greg Guttfeld still drew
more total viewers, but they remind us at airs at

(11:49):
ten eastern seven Pacific, and maybe, perhaps possibly you could
convince me ten o'clock is a late night show, even
though it's clearly not seven o'clock Pacific definitely is not.
But Late Nighter says Kim Will got the most eighteen
to forty nine's, even including Gutfield. All right, Jimmy Fallon,
he's a survivor. He's working on a game show adaptation

(12:11):
of Wordle for NBC. Savannah Guthrie would host the show.
Fallon would get some producer credit for some reason. Who knows.
I don't know how this all works. Somebody's got a
good agent, Taylor Tomlinson, who may have accidentally killed off
the Late Show. I've explained this before. I'll go quick here.
So Taylor Thompson had been renewed to twelve thirty and
then she decides to walk away, so they decide to

(12:33):
get rid of twelve thirty. Then later on they decided
to get rid of eleven thirty, saying, oh that was
always the plan. Now here's my question. Why did your
new twelve thirty were You're not gonna have an eleven
thirty show? Were you going to move Taylor up to
eleven thirty? Perhaps? Possibly? Maybe? My theory is that once
Taylor went you know what, nah, that made people go
do we even need twelve thirty? And the answer was no?
And then somebody went do we even need eleven thirty?

(12:55):
And apparently the answer was no. I'm not blaming Taylor Thomlinson.
I just think she's accidentally created a bitterfly effect. She told
the Cap Times. I'm sure anyone who looks at my
schedule right now must be a little concerned for me.
She's in Madison tonight and tomorrow and says I've been
on the road every single weekend. That's what you got
to do to get an hour ready. Cap Sadie was
curious if she has any rituals on the road. Taylor

(13:15):
Tomlinson said, I don't know if you'd even called a routine.
I have stuff I do in every city. I need
to find a good Macha latte somewhere, and then I
feel strongly about breakfast. Then I need to go find
a bookstore, a victed shop, we're both preferably, and I
need to walk a lot during the day. And now
we're doing crowd confessions at the end of show, so
we're going through people's texts before I go on stage,
whereas maybe before I may have been looking at my
set list and pacing. I think that's also helped get

(13:37):
my head in it and get me in a very
I'm connected to this audience space. They asked her comedians
have been in the news lately, Kimmel's suspension, Colbert's show.
What do you think is missing from those conversations? Taylors said,
I think probably the biggest issue is people tuning out
because they're so overwhelmed with horrific news every day, which
I completely understand. I think it's all pretty clear and
blatant at this point. I get it, but I'm much

(13:58):
more scared of checking out, putting my head in the sand,
and being overwhelmed. What does she miss about after midnight?
She says, I miss the people working with comedians every
day and miss watching people be so funny many different ways.
The thing I won't miss is the schedule. I was
so disappointed they didn't replace me as the host because
I was like, man, somebody just wanted to stay in
LA and not be on the road do local spots.
A comedy could still do that, but if it was
your whole job. It was a dream schedule. But I

(14:19):
was flying out every Thursday after doing two shows Wednesday,
and my voice was always gone. I kept going to
an E and C was like, you need to do
vocal rest, and I was like, I literally can't. And
that is your comedy news for today. Hopefully things will
calm down with Riod, although my spidey sense is that
Conan's gonna get some blow back now. We will see
and we'll catch up again tomorrow. Thank you for listening. Bye,
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