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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Why at the today saw written directed by Willis G.
Brim between Ernest Chapel. It's called Cornelia.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'll tell you everything from the very side. I haven't
heard it to anybody before.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
If you know, if I.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Knew, nobody would believe it. So maybe you won't eave it.
Not that it will do any good if you do
believe it, not for that matter, any harm if you
don't give Ben a good friend Allen in At least
I could do is tell you those whole things.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It wouldn't have done any good at all to tell
you before. Now it's too late for anything.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So you've known me only how long is it less
than six months? You're never u one union.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
You can go up the Lakeside Cemetery sometime and have
a little routine.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Stone It says she died in the twenty ninth of
August nineteen thirty seven. It's a very nice team Stone.
I paid seven hundred and fifty dollars for him, and
I never spent seven hundred and fifty dollars so gladly
in all my life.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Men and I were married a little more than eight
years on media it was a year and two months older.
Than I. Did you ever have a childhood sweeth Hot Island,
from school, grammar school and through high school. A girl
maybe that you watch grow up from.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Big Games, Arab and non too, a page boy Bob
from Pinafores through maybe Brouse's, through a white graduation dress,
a girl that shared algebra famous Roach in the three parts.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Of Gaul which there's a kind of shadow of marriage.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
And I think of a kid who share all their
school days together, from the first pencil boxers, who are
rolled up high school with Filma in a handshake from
the superintendent, school six hours a day together, nine months
a year, for taking the same thoughts, taking the same problems.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
There. It is a little like Kingston nament, and you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And I feel sorry for people who haven't had that experience. Yes,
there are any. I am glad I hadn't. You didn't
know Barbara. Suppose Barbara, it's just the name, like Cony.
I don't know when it was if Barbara and I
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first knew you were in love.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
With each other. When we talked about.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
It, it seems we'd always doing that, and yet there
was no beginning that we could remember, and there's no
end We were juniors in high school and near the
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Cornelia moved to our town. Barbara and I were a
kind of banding joke of on our schoolmates. We were
the heavy romance, the dependable. We were the old faith
books of all the couples in school.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Do you remember from your own smoot ay blomy as
all of one couple like that.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Everyone is sexting to graduate, get married, They live happily
ever after, sometimes they do in our page.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
You know all about it.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
At least you know we didn't live happily ever at
Nidia was a beautiful girl.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
No I want to describe it to you, because anything
I'd say would merely be the description of the beautiful woman.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
So you imagine or.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Anyone you wanted, you never saw her, You'll never see.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
He died musically.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I remember, could have had practically any boy in.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
The US he wanted. He knew that. Of course the
whole school knew it. She took her eyes Paul lonely.
He was football captain. He had two d Johnny Martins
who party could sing Johnny Last's Heart of One Evening.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
With its Cornelia's time to Eddie Brayden was his Jordan's
incredible Cornelia ray Alison. It was sure Jordie Lawrence was patten,
but her hair description They all fell Dan Cornelia last.
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The only time that saint time, I guess it was
that afternoon in christ or A Vice team college. I
always thought Tonya didn't know Barbara and I were in
the next boot.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I a thought that fill. Four years later, one night she.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Told me she knew we were there. Maybe that was
why she talked to her a loud. You must have
felt the silence that got all over the places. That
doesn't cover strange to hear cars truck even then, Alan,
because that's some strange power the people. Somebody dropped an
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ice cream stream and at every side of the un
and that was the only sound that said, come.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Good, smile.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I smiled and drop the Barbara wasn't smiling back. She
would let me and I have never seen that king past.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Well, I take him away from him. Do you think
he can keep him? What I wanted.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
The BB's hand. From there, I looked in the Barbera's eyes.
The father was staring somewhere into the future. And what
I saw in her eyes, Yes it was Alan kids
seventeen years old, but she loved me and she was
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a good and I was afraid.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I was afraid of that voice.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
Does he thinks she can keep him?
Speaker 5 (07:29):
When I wanted?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Barbara had a headache when I came to Taper to
see hell Angels at the idol hour that night, and
I knew I should have stayed at home with him,
but I wanted to see that picture.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Remember it allan, It was a great picture in those days.
Babla never did see funny, did it?
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Though?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It made a good subject of the conversation with in
this A couple of days later after school and before
I knew it, I.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Was walking home with twenty. Then Corny to was seen.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Remember that thing from black and Time? How many times
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would I to write that song? Sacks stole them from
that beautiful thing? And I'm thin, but that first time
it was a love song over beautiful girl, and a
love song to me. Barbara and I have never talked about.
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I found it very improving to see with a girl
who talked to constant.
Speaker 7 (08:55):
It is.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Then flattening when.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
The second from.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Oh I saw Bobby, I saw her as but I
thought from nis twenty saw often at up on the
way home nights for Bobby's house I was and turn downs,
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and sometimes I'd stopped about and I stopped wanting to
go away, but now by something that I didn't have names,
so I know all about it now, and gradually, gradually
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twenty was in the way to talk now. I don't
believe she loved me, as there were times when she
laughed at me, cruelly for.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
My consiness, for my useful embarrassed me.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
But always she was weaving some thought some about.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
My putting new barriers between me and.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Bob Robert didn't fight back. Ellen, I know how Boba felt.
If Bob Bru thought I loved someone else more than
I bet heard. You've heard of that fuse sometimes.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
A word, or perhaps Bobla was willing.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
To wait let me have a plan, to be waiting
for me when it ended. Bob, I'm true at all, Alan,
I love her. Oh, I know, I know what I
was a fool.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Heavens you ever been a fool?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Heavens, you rather got yourself involved in something and you
wasn't right, and kept on with it, having a conscience
to the thought that it won't last forever, and you
can go back and start over again whenever you wanted.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
I was a thinking that.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Of course I know it now. I didn't realize it then.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
My books had money, Townydia's people had nothing much. Torniedia
knew what she was doing, and.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
She knew how to do it. She was going to
have me come hill or high.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Water on and she wasn't going to let Barbara have me.
She knew me better than I knew myself, given by
Cornelia always you, and she knew how to trap me.
And so they came. When she sprang the fact, Barbara
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and I I said, he'd never spok Tornada spoke the glove.
You've never had that happen til you had no Alan stopped.
I think you want especially if you believe it. Rob,
you have been away for.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Two weeks visiting your cousins somewhere in Iland.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
We need you waited to Lovat for a Bob Ortina.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
God, what are we going to do?
Speaker 4 (12:14):
What you do?
Speaker 5 (12:16):
What do you mean Bob's coming back to me?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (12:18):
I know?
Speaker 5 (12:19):
What are we gonna do without?
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Well?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
She's not gonna take you away thing, He's not gonna
have you.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Actually, what's the matter with you? You loved me.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
I know it's wrong, come bet at Gordon, but I
will better come to tin. I know why you'd never
asked you to marry your wild it, because we need
could be hurt and your pride for good you still
do you see how unimportant? Why I never thought you
can't messy in san between. That's not happiness to him?
I love your body and you love me, and God
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what you love the don't you do?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
What? You know?
Speaker 7 (12:57):
What are my inadation? We can't go.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I'm just say we have.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
Another came and being never allowing ourselves.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
To be happy. Darling, let's stop.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Let's not let somebody else break up our happiness.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
Probably yea God love.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
It was that simple, Batty, the honorable young man, because
you know less than promised to marry the girl I
wanted a ring Barbara sent back my high school when
and I were married a year. That's the first chapter.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Now take a look at us staff to.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
You a mars.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Take a look at Cornelia and me after this month
in our new home out on Prospect Heights, with a
new car in the garage and the new purnature in
the house, and the happily married couple that home.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
I don't want to be kids here. You stop calling
you study think I am your friend, Barbara. Oh, I
thought that involves he does it?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
How are you doing talking to other persons, Cornelia?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
What's pecting a matter of business?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Business? That's a Funnlia. I can tell you every word
she said.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
It would have brought the bones in himself going.
Speaker 6 (14:44):
But you know he's praying his ankle as he's stilling dead.
He said you had to have him today, So I
thought I dropped him by one.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Hand, touched her.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
She handed paper.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Don't have to be running along now, you'll give my
back to your to Cornelie, I don't believe a word
you say.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
If I have a passion around with her, I'll make
life so.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Miserable for you both.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I kept my bargain on him. I was still young
enough to have illusions about honesty and honor and all
those old fashioned virtues. I crossed the streets from I
never mentioned her name. I didn't have to be Cornelia.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
What are you thinking about now?
Speaker 7 (15:27):
Their friend, Barbara might stay trying hard.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
You look nice tonight, twenty of your daughter.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Please, I look better than that this tray, Barbara, you
used to run around.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
With a last I haven't said something but honest to you,
And I said Cornie, listen, I married you because we
said we loved these chaps. I've been faithful to you.
I intend to be faithful to you as long as
we're married. But I've got to say it, if you
keep throwing Barbara's name at me, you look Cornillia. You
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know perfectly well that there's nothing between Barbara and me.
But if you were trying the person to see her,
there's no.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Better way than for you to keep reminding me. Why
do you hate her?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Funny?
Speaker 7 (16:13):
All right?
Speaker 5 (16:15):
You want to know good?
Speaker 6 (16:17):
You asked me, and I'll tell you I've got good
reason to hate it.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
I hate her because it's the one person in the
world that might see you away from me.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
You mean that you do.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Let's not talk about love between you and your Good.
Speaker 6 (16:31):
I'm not going to let anybody take you away from
me for a very simple reason. Even you want to
be smart enough to.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
Know what that reason is.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I'm afraid I'm not funny, my Good.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
You're a security for me just as long as you
have your money. I'm the girl of a favor.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
That's all you need to me.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Is Is that clear enough?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
You don't mean that?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Well?
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Do you think I took you away from her said,
But I said, then what I say?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Now it's two different things.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
You might as well make the best of the Jordan.
As long as you have money. You're stuck with me.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
Oh, I'll not create any scandals.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
I wouldn't give you grounds for the horse for anything.
Speaker 7 (17:19):
I'm with you good from good your.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
Death do as pause the man said, I'll be with
you for ransoms then the way she said, or that's
with like a clanging felon.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And so you won't know why I hate pas oh
Telly Goody, because I know you still love God and
she loves you, and she's the horn I love problem.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Barbara loves me?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Who was support of lightnings from the element of course,
of course.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I love Bob.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Who is this woman who's flip it away from you?
I'm your lawful ben and white Lordie, don't forget that.
How's the good night again? And how could I forget
the love? For I knew enough life, the progress still
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get luck, and that I would always lovely And I
was married to a woman who would be with me
as long as that had my mine.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Now let's speak of I remember October nineteen twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I came home that Friday night money was waiting.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
For him to do.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
What about it?
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Gordon? Is the market any better?
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Are we going to be all right?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
At answer?
Speaker 5 (18:50):
Answer me?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
We're not going to be all right. What Gordy, it's
not a sambler.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
I don't I don't believe you.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yes, I'm believed the.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Money is all gone.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
She had a very bad stroke. Wish you to be
a helpless things with all the rest of your life?
Can I tend a dollars of years? Can I tell
you if I'm nagging, unforgiving woman, who's every waking hole
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you vote? I'll never forgive you because what you've done
to me, striking at me what every means at her disposal.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
I don't care what you're doing.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
You come home at instance.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I don't care if you lose your job or not maligning.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Me to the few friends we have left.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
That and he thinks I don't know it.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Strike he's doing her like a vicious wounded piece.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
You better leave my husband alone. You're not going to
take him.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Away from me. Slip the long hours alone to think
of new ways that hate me for what it happened,
long hours alone to.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Flutter revenge is against.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
The pride I nursed her to day and night. My
cat's extra work for my friends work. I could do
it home at night for another few dollars. I made
every sacrifice I could think of, and nothing is enough
to say.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
Set up, you get me some.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Fresh water sprinters, wake up, go and get me some cigarette.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
If I can't sleep, you're not going to sleep.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
I thought the way you looked at me.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
But you're not going to get rid of me.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
I'll live on and on and on, and I'll hate
you and hate you. Eat and Barbara, she.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
Thinks she's waiting for you.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
She thinks I'll die and she'll have you. I'll never
let her head. Are you going?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Five years ago? Highs? Long years?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
What did I do? I could wait, Alan, I could
wait and hope.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
I could listen to twenty years and I listen.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
You want me to die.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
I can wait for you to die.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Never die, always be well, you wrote, Corny. Everybody has
to die. Everybody has to die.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Don't day Allen? Twenty years and Bob and you.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
And me?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Do you think people stay dead outs? I'll never forget
the night some side it looks like a seasons one
of them play. We used to do years to go.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
The deck scene and the old castle.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
There was something about the house that nine even before
knew that was on me, was mad. There was almost
always storm outside the windows in the old planes from
that night when of those sudden wild summer storms gathered
and struck, And there was always a grandfather's flights ten
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hours on the staircase rang seven and a half there
before the windows against the ring and driving man, and
there was always the sound of a shrill telephone that off.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Stage in the little sad spen hours began to ring
right on the feet.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
In the last stuff decided he was going to keep.
The lights went up. We had everything, even a mad
woman raving away in the darkness. As I groped my
way through a room, m her voice, she lashing at
me like a storm appeat at the windows of the
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darkened house. And in my heart I said, die.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
In forty year, this is the time.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
And again that hideous strong as I stumbled of the room,
and again.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I said, die, Cornelia.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Die, and never come back.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
When the song's top me and then a thunder cracks,
and the light came up, and thenetheless touch with another time.
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Barbara never called before.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
I had.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Something, maybe Gordon and you get sad. We were unactamed
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about it. Alan, Starbara and I were married two months, SAgs.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
We had so many years.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
For many games, so many hours up years. Cornelia was
more than dead. You have vanished.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
M hm, that wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Traces the mound.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
I love you well, God, I love you so much.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
I'm a pad.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
I couldn't see it.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
It's still it isn't but it's so purpose that glory.
Nothing happen here, not word wine is happening. Ever, I won,
and there was a sudden ships. There was a different
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look to the one in your eyes that you said.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I remembered it a long time. I remember that in
the morning I came downstairs.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
To both Barba was long?
Speaker 5 (25:49):
My song long? Was not a gourdy?
Speaker 1 (25:59):
What are you saying?
Speaker 7 (26:00):
I didn't notice that.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Baba never never sing that song again?
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Do you hear me?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I don't know what to move, Darland. Don't you like
to tell me that wasn't Barbara's voice? Barbara spoke and
it wasn't her voice.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Why God, did you know? You look as if you're
afraid of me?
Speaker 8 (26:24):
And it was to me in his eyes that looked
at me out of robe and I knew. I didn't believe,
but I knew it couldn't happen, but it did.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
A song?
Speaker 2 (26:38):
What we said?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
What could I tell hod?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Did I tell her that this soul of another woman
was taking possession of it? How did I color?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Was this Barbara?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Or was it? Had begun to think of the word hallucination,
But I imagine I'd try to laugh at myself, happy
my eyes.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
It was very nice.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
When at last spoke in her eyes, Wow, it's done.
How you kill away?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Why don't you go to?
Speaker 5 (27:31):
And I like you?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
And she spoke her eyes when she spoke again, Oh yeah,
d Fabra.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
I'll live all and all.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
And again Barbra.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
When she opened her eyes and spoke again, I'll never
let her have your shot.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
And the voice was cornelious and the eyes were Cornelia's.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Then she lay my hands, went do I throw the
Cornadia brought?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
When the black moos Lexi barber business. We did everything
you said that.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Wouldn't miss you, anything defensive on another, But there was
nothing you could do a study.
Speaker 9 (28:33):
Vladia had a revenge, a beauty power, your business almost
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happy m.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Maybe how did you speak? You're listening to the quiet
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page's looking directed.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
By Willis Cooper. The Man Who's Post to Ernest Cat
and I answer More play one Year Barbe with Peggy's Standing,
the water Black with the bust. The music is an
Open Place by Russ.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Now you're worried about next week's quiet please here.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Is our wedding records. Next week's stories about a more
that's trying to work ned so I remember to not
go for the next week.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I am quietly.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
James to.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
School two
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Sis