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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Welcome to Dicota Growing.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I'm Kelsey Deckert, your horticulture agent here in Burley County,
joined in the radio Access studio by my co host
Tom Call the NDSU Extension Horticulture US.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Here we are mid September.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
That's right, happy about it?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Happy about it?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yep. Good time of the year. Fall, love the fall.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, start change colors out in the landscape.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Football, vikings, bison, let's go. Everything is good.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Cooler nights, cooler nights is really nice.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Crickets at night.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
We talked about those are great and nice.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
And I like it. Good in sunny days is kind
of nice.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, we've had a little bit of a warm spout here, right.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Winter likes that no winter? I heard? Do you hear that.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
There's gonna be no winter?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
No? The articles I've been global warming?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
No, was that wrong that I read wrong?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I think I've been reading that harsh winter?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah? Is that right?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Farmer's Almanac?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
You know, Okay, whatever they say, just lip the script
that they.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Say it's going to be it's gonna be cold, it's
gonna be warm.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
There's something about this whole al Nina that's right.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
There is truth in that.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah. So they say it could be what I hear
is there could be like below average temperatures.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I don't know what that means for precipitation, but.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Oh I heard that. I heard that.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Now that you mentioned that, Yeah, it's gonna be colder winter.
They say a likelihood of a colder winter, not for sure,
and and uh nothing uh.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
No real, uh uh.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
It's precipitation, not especially dry, not especially wet average.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah. Well they just say like, there's no they can't
like put the odds on anything.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
So they're just getting normal chances, right.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Probably normal chances. But what does that mean?
Speaker 4 (02:19):
That's great news because emerald dashboard will I'll set it
back again. That's good again. A cold winter is not
a bad thing, you know, it's a good thing, at
least a couple of weeks of it.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Oh, I like dry winters don't have to shovel as much,
and everything is good. Life is good.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Okay, So should we talk about what's going on currently?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Yeah, we're going to talk about right now, and I'm
going to start my presentation for today. It's called Heartbreak
and Harvest. That's where we are today. And you know,
one of the best things about fall is the fall colors. Right, yes, great,
So here I got a picture of I took this
picture yesterday in Bismarck.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
And what do you think is that tree? That maple
tree look good to you?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Fine?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I mean people are probably concerned because it's already got
fall color in the one next to it's pretty green.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Yeah, well actually that's not a mean next to it
because we're in diversity.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
You know that, well we should be.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
So thisis Mark was very smart about that. They have
all kinds of different trees. But you know, you're really
kind of you hit the nail on the head there,
tell us a little bit.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Like you see.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
When I see early fall color, I don't go, oh wow,
that's so cool. I go, oh no, that tree is suffering.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
What's wrong?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Why are you turning red so fast? And so then
I took a picture right there at its base.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
My gosh, look at I forgot.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
It's the shark.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
The shark the lawn more that's more blanked. Man, Just
rip the side out of the tree. And now the
tree has got to shut down early and conserve its energy.
Here's another one right right down the street. Early fall color.
Oh so nice? No, No, another lawn more blight there
just ripped it out.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
So does that mean long term you can expect that
every year with this tree having that kind of damage,
well that early fall.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Color, well until it heals itself.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, which will take several.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Years exclamation points.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Decades starting to heal.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
You see, you can see the healing of a tree
when you look at the edges.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
It kind of you'll see it'll roll up.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Yeah, it's kind of like a wave rolling to heel
it up, like like if you cut a limb, you
see a donut as it it rolls up and heals
the wound. But this takes a long time. And maples
have a thin bark. They're very sensitive. So here is
our dreaded enemy, the lawnmower. Lawn more man. You know,
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every time you start your lawnmower, every tree in your
yard shakes and shivers in fear because it's helpless. And lawnmowers,
if they bite into bark, that's they're they're exposing the
most precious wood of a tree.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Look at this blight again, this is a sin.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
If I was a tree cop and in biz Mark,
this person would get by to ten for sure.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Just that is just crael.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Years and no more planting.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
They'd have to listen to me talk horticulture for five
to ten years. That's how much punishment they would have
to be, just horticulture agony listening to me. I would
scream at them stop doing that. So let's do this diagramatically. Here,
here's our nice, healthy tree, and then you put a
gash in it. Okay, Now, the most precious wood of
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a tree is just beneath the bar. That's where the
new growth comes, not from the core, not from the
inside of the tree. The new growth comes just beneath
the bark, just like the tree. If you can just
imagine the tree as a tree gets sticker, it puts
on a.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
New layer of paint. Every year.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
New growth comes just beneath the bark. And while the
water nutrients travel in the ring just beneath the bark,
So you know, the nutrients are being shipped down to
the roots, and that's fine, that's normal.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
But if in that gashed area, that stops the.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Flow of nutrients down to the roots, and so the
roots don't be able to grow, and that inhibits the
growth of the tree itself. This is a major crime
against the tree. Just cruelty. Okay, here's you. Now see
here's the picture that all everything was damaged.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Wrong tree.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
And so this was done on purpose. And this reminds
you of an old story. When I was a county agent,
somebody said, Tom, what's the best way to kill a tree?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I got to kill a tree. I said, that's easy.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
All you gotta do is go around and remove the
bark all the way around the tree, and that will
expose where the layer, the Cambian we call it, where
the new growth comes from. So there'll be no more
new growth than that tree, and there'll be no nutrients
going down to the roots if you take the bark
all the way off the tree, and so the roots
will just shrivel up and the tree will die.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
This is called girdling. So yeah, it's called murder. That
is murder.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
And so you know what, the guy on the phones says,
thanks Tom, thanks for teaching me how to kill a tree.
I'm gonna kill my neighbor's tree right now.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
That true story. So there you go.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
You didn't shout at him, don't be going into the
neighbor's yard.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
I didn't say anything. I was just in shock, but
I wasn't accomplished to the crime I must admit. But
the statute of limitations is over on that. That was
twenty five years ago. But as you can see what
it diagram, we see all all everything shut down. No,
no nutrients are going down to the roots, because that
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goes through right beneath the bark. Okay, just important. The
most important wood of a tree is just beneath the bark.
You gotta protect the bark to be careful with the moor.
And one of the best ways it just put maulting
around the tree. Malting so great. It conserves moisture, keeps
weeds down, it moderates the soil temperature not too hot,
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not too cold.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
And it keeps the lawnmower away.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Very important. So how do you malt a tree? The
old rule of three three three is a good one.
The mult layer should be about three inches stick and
it should be at least the malt ring should be
at least three feet in diameter three feet wide. And
you should have no malt three inches near the trunk.
(08:54):
No malts because otherwise the metal mice will get in
there and they'll nibble on the bark. About three inches
of bark around that tree and it'll be so happy
and the more will be gone. Okay, I saw that yesterday.
I just had to talk about it. I just get
so mad when I see more blight. It's just careless, reckless,
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mean to restos trees. I mean, those trees are special.
They're like hundreds of dollars and that scarred for decades
just out of carelessness. Don't do that. That's my that's
my mean spirited talk for today. Now let's talk about something.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Was that the heartbreak?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Then that's the heartbreak. Another heartbreak's coming as frost. Sorry
about that. Frost is coming. According to the Farmer's Alvenact,
it's coming, I guess. So when does the first frost come?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I got it.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I'm showing a graph here, and thirty two degrees is
a light frost and twenty eight degrees fair and hie
is what we.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Call a killing frost.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
So about ten percent of the years in Bismarck Mandan
we get a light frost by September eleventh, so that's
pretty early, and a killing frost September nineteenth right around. Now,
that's about ten percent of the year. That's an early
early frost. But like here, most years we get our
first light frost the last week of September and a
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hard killing frost the first week of October. But some years,
like one out of ten, it'll be delayed all the
way into October eighth for light frost and October seventeenth
for a killing frost. My message there is frost is
around the corner. You can count on it, probably a
light frost the last week of September and a killing
frost the first week of October. So if you got
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a good harvest, we've got a good gardens. Now what
do you protect? You gotta protect the vulnerable ones. So beans, cucumbers, tomato,
and zucchini. They cannot take any frost. So if you're
gonna put a blanket on anything, they'll give you a
couple of degrees of protection. And you want to put
it on those very sensitive crops, the cucumbers, tomato, zucchini.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I'm gonna say, people just expose the zucchini.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Huh wow, are we gonna got in that? You have
no respect for zucchini?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
No?
Speaker 4 (11:21):
I the Hall of Fame vegetable I do. People don't
respect just because it's so productive, and then you you
just you don't respect it.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I do I make. I just made a zucchini cake
last week, chocolate zucchini.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Cake, pocket zucchini cake.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
It is a staple. And I'm making zucchini hot dish.
There you have to do it.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Why do you want the frost to kill your zucchinis?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Very valuable.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Well, it's not my zucchini. I get that zucchini. Okay,
Remember I killed my garden.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I sorry, There's always tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
That's what I always next year.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
That's right, you got it.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
So some vegetables can take a light frost, and that
would be like carrots and lettuce and it's in winter.
Squash they can take a light frost, but not a
real hard killing twenty eight degree frost. And the heartiest
ones would be like the cabbage family, like cabbage, broccoli, kale, kurabbie.
They're pretty tough. They can take hard frost. No prom
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kal can grow in the snow pretty much.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
It's so tough. I mean, we got temperas in twenty five.
Just fine. Those are the soldiers, Those are the tough ones.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
When they say winter is coming, there they laugh at winter.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
There you go. So you got to you gotta know
what vegetables are more sensitive.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
What about the apples?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
People always ask every year they want to let a
frost hit them because they get sweeter.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Right, that's right, And uh, you know, since you asked
that question, I will talk about that.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
No, I'm just sorry, I can, I can, I can.
Just I'll have it in five minutes for you you
had today, There you go.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Okay, how about your tomatoes. Okay, they can take frost. Now,
if it's just a very light frost, put a blanket
on your tomatoes and they'll give you a few degrees
of protection. But if it's like a hard frost coming,
nothing's going to say those tomatos. So we gotta go
out scramble and pick out all your tomatoes if you want,
if you want to, if you like, if you want
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to ripe them indoors, And here's how you do it.
First of all, the tomatoes that will ripen indoors, they
have to be cracked free. If they have cracks and blemishes,
they won't. They won't ripe an indoors still rot. And
I like the tomatoes that at least have a blush
of color to them, solid green tomatoes.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Really, it's kind of they.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Usually don't work out so well, but if they're blushing
a little bit on the bottom of the fruit, that's
a positive sign. Now, tomatoes when they ripe and they
give off ethylene, which is a ripening gas, okay, and
so what we do. We want to trap that ripening
gas to enhance the riping tomatoes. So I start by
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laying out a sheet of paper. I put my tomatoes
on a single layer on top of that paper, and
then I put paper above that to trap the gas.
And we keep it away from direct sun because direct
son if you put if the tomatoes get direct sun,
I'll just ripen on the very outside the skin of
the fruit. So I want to ripen the whole fruit.
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And room temperatures our best, but enhance the flavors. So
that's the best way. And you just check your tomatoes
every few days and you see any of their riting,
you gotta toss them.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Can you put them next to bananas?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Bananas will have ethylene. I think that's okay, But I
don't know what do you care about bananas?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I do give up.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
They give off that gas ripod quick like if you
want to lady the bananas, Like you know, when you
buy a thing of what is it called?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I don't know, a bunch of a bunch of bananas,
that's what it's called a bunch. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
So then like sometimes they ripen so quick I have
to pull them aparts. They're not next to each other
and ripening.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
That's a promise. Well, you should have you should have
visited me in Taiwan. I had a banana tree and uh.
And when you get a bunch of bananas when it's ready,
that's like one hundred and fifty bananas at one time.
So you talk about like a zucchini in the garden,
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what do you do with thee hundred and fifty bananas
at one time? And you get a big like a
machete and you caught off the bunch.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
And it's got this this goop.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
That comes out and kind of gets all over your
clothes and ruins your clothes. But it's kind of fun, harsing,
But it's a big bunch of bananas. That's when you
just have a banana part. You invite all the friends,
everybody has to nobody can leave without having at least
twenty bananas with them.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Send a bunch home with them.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
That's right there, Forsome, that'd be cool though it is cool.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
It would be, but we could grow banana trees in here.
I would have a bana.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Well, all you gotta do is buy a lottery ticket
and you know, put in and then move. Make it atrium,
you know, oh tropical atrium. You can have a parrot,
a banana, a mango tree.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
That's what I do.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
I had lemons and limes and oranges all those. Yeah, yeah,
we can't do that North Kota. Sorry, this is Dakota growing.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Not Florida.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Grou Florida growing more like Cuba, you know, equator. Okay, so, okay,
we talked about let's talk about winter squash. When is
winter squash?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Right?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
That's kind of tricky. I always look at the there's
an picture of an acorn squash. I look at the
underside of the fruit, and I want it to be golden.
It not white. On the underside. I've got a golden
spot on it. And then I don't want greenish tinge.
I want the greenish tinge way, and I want the
skin to be hard and glossy, and uh for me,
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I kind of just do like the no brainer, Like, okay,
I just keep it on the vine until the hard
frost comes and then the night before the hard frost.
I just go out in my wheelbarrow and harvest all
the winter squash. That's the low key approach. And then
you clip them off to like a one inch stem.
Clip them off with the seers. There there's butternut squash. Again,
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just clip it off. There's a hard, glossy rind, no
greenish tinge and the stem itself where you cut it,
it's gonna be dry. So winter squash will tell real
life frost, so that that's okay, And but it won't
take a heart frost. And so you got a harvest
before the hard twenty eight degree frost, and I just
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clip off the fruits. You brush off the soil. You
don't you don't want to clean or wash winter squash
because that can encourage diseases. To just brush off the soil.
I just set them someplace warm, like like I bring.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Them in the garage.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
And then then then if you got some warm days
up ahead, I just set them out in the driveway
for about a week if you can, during the day
and about seventy to eighty five degrees and that will
help a harden the skin of the kind of cure
it a little bit. Then and Actually, we're gonna store
winter squash in a cool place in the basement works
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good for me, and or an unheated garage. Maybe basement's
the best way. About fifty degrees as well, we're fifty
to sixty.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
And then winter.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Squash will develop flavor if you after storage. So like
some of the squash you can eat right away, like
the acorn, the dela cotta squash and spaghetti squash, they
get their maximum flavor right away, so you can eat
them right away. But buttercup squash if you store for
a month, it'll be more flavorful after a month. And
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butternut squash if you store for two months, it'll be
more flavorful. So there you go about nuts. Have you
prepared now for your frost heartbreak and how.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
To deal with it?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Those quite some time.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
They can under the right conditions. Maybe set them on
a pallet, get them off the ground and uh you
have a little air circulation underneath, and they'll really help.
And that tastes that's great. Actually, I always have tons
of squash more than I can eat. I love squash
soup good good for old people like me. Hot no warm, yeah, yeah, okay,
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now you asked about apple. So in response, I have
to answer your question. Okay, there you go. You're the boss. Okay,
when it's an apple ripe, there's a red apple. I
look at the background color. The background color, when it
turns from greenish to yellowish, that's a good sign that
the apple fruit's ripe. Sometimes you notice, like on a
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windy day, see some of the apples falling. That's a
sign that you're probably about ready to harvest them. And
the every thing. When you harvest an apple, you should
have an upward motion. You don't, and it should come
off readily with an upward twisting motion. When you harvestick.
Don't yank down on the fruit because you can see
here in this picture right next to that fruit, that's
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that's a flower for next year. That's a spur we
call it. That's next year's crub. So if you yank
down on the apple fruit, you could rip off the
flour for next year and reduce your crop next year.
So those are some tips about when your apple's right now.
As you say, some people say, oh, I want to
make sure that apples get a frost and they'll be sweeter.
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That's wrong. We're wrong, because the apple fruit has its
maximum flavor when it's ripe, and then you should harvest
it whether or not it's got a frost or not,
because once it's apple gets starts getting over ripe, the
flavor quality is decreased and the texture gets mushy. So
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pick the apple. Don't care about whether the frost is
here or not. Just pick it when it's ripe. But
if your apples aren't ripe and you have an early frost,
apples can take at least about twenty six degrees and
they'll be fine. But if it gets colder than that
and they get frozen, that's really sad. But you just
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what you do. If if you get frozen apples, it
can still eat them there, you know, you just let
them unthaw, you harvest them, and you make apple sauce.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
But apples are about twenty six degrees. That's the key
temperature for apples. Again, though, harvest your apples when they're
right because we don't know when that frost is coming. Okay,
this got a couple last things. Talk about turf here.
Don't want the heartbreak and the harvesting. I'm gonna because
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there's a lot of deadlines right now. September is the
best time to improve your lawn. Okay, So let's just
talk about a few things and deadlines for us. Okay, fertilizing, Okay,
the best time to fertilize the lawn is in fall. Okay,
because like you know right now, I'd say, when I
look at my turf and the turf in the neighborhood,
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I don't see a lot of lawnmowers going on.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Last week. You don't see a lot of top growth
going on.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I don't think I've mowed in probably two two and
a half going.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
On three weeks.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Now, what one's the last time you fertilize your lawn.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yeah, there we go, me too, actually. But two it's
called low maintenance and we're environmental.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
That's where we are. That's where that's why I see it.
Nothing wrong with nothing wrong with that. My lawn's doing
just fine. It's still green. That's all it curis. There
you go what else you want, but if you want,
But you know what my point is before I was
so rudely interrupted. There, what's that You don't see a
lot of top growth, But man, there's a lot of
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stuff going on underneath and in the soil because now
is when the roots grow, and that's the key to
a great lawn is to have thick, dense roots system.
That's gonna be a thick lawn that can tolerate bro
So we fertilize in September to promote a strong root
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system because our turf is actually very hungry right now.
It wants that fertilizer. However, the problem with God is
you can't. You can't keep delaying it. You gotta If
you're gonna fertilize it, you gotta do it now because
if you start, if you wait till October, you're gonna
you're gonna encourage new growth and that could be winter killed.
And Kelsey just said, we're gonna have a harsh winter,
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so we want are long to be prepared for the
harsh winter.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Okay, so.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
If you're gonna fertilize, you should have done it yesterday,
you know, a week ago.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
But do it right now, Okay, don't wait until October.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Okay. How about controlling weeds. Here's a little creep and
Charlie action or ground ivy we call it. And weeds
are also changing out. They're not putting on top growth either.
They're sending everything down into their roots to prepare for winter. Okay,
so how do you what's the best way to kill
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a weed. We got to get the herbicide into the roots.
So if we spray in mid till late September, this
ground ivy will take that herbicide and bring it down
to its roots along with its nutrients as it prepares
for winter. So the best time to kill weeds like
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thistles and clover and ground ivy and field bind weed,
all those perennial weeds is just spray it in mid
to late September because the weeds will take the herbicide
down to the root. Well, think about that over the
next two weeks. This is a great time to control
your weeds.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I'm gonna do take care of those grassy weeds I
fought all year in my flower beds like that. I
have no idea. Okay, listen, I have no idea. What
kind of grass hard to pull out? Put it that way? Okay,
it's not annuals.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Okay, that's the important thing. You gotta know what kind
of weed? Is it annual? It just germinate this year,
because if it is it's annual, it's dying it's gonna
die from frost. But like you say, if it's it's
hard to pull out, it's probably a perennial maybe like
quack grass and.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
All sorts of things.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yeah, I say quack grass is the number one among
the grasses. May I fescue Maybe I'm trying to think,
you know, almost.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
That's in there. The dirt compost mix came from the pasture,
so it'd be.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
All sort of orchard grass, Kim, I see all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, I don't really care about identity grass.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
You just want to kill it.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I want to kill it next year. I'm not dealing
with that with my flowers.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
You're gonna have a great gardener, I am, and you're
gonna do it. And also so again, next two weeks,
bray the weeds, so die down to the roots. Next
year you can have a great garden. So do a
little working out, really helping. Twenty twenty five great year
for gardening. Already got it. I don't know what the
Farmer's Almanac says, but that's what I think. And the
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last thing about seating, Okay, listen, you you got to
give the seed like fall is the best time to
put down grass. Seat because the ground's warm, the seed
of Germany quickly. You're not going to create a lot
of weeds coming up when you disturb this because weed
seeds don't want to germinate now, they're too smart. But
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the thing is you got to give the grass seedlings
enough time to get established. So it kind of say
mid like mid september's the deadline. So this and neir thing,
don't push it. If you're going to put down grass
seed that will germinate and get established this year, you
got to do it now, don't wait till October, otherwise
it may not get established in time. So those are
(27:39):
all the heartbreak harvest, turf. What a lot of things
going on?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
What's your answer?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
And people always say I want to reseed, but what
should I receed?
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Fill in those bear spots?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Oh what do you want to? Okay?
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Well, what I do is I say, okay, what do
you want you go? Is it a sunny area or
a shady area? So that's the key question. And I'm
going to get a seed from a northern source. I'm
gonna see In general, there's three major groups of grass seed.
One is the Kentucky bluegrass, which is the best quality,
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but it's gotta have sun, right, it struggles in the shade.
If you've got a shady area, you want to fine
leaf fascues like red fascue, creeping red chewings, the red
fascue for the shaded area. And then I like a
little perennial rye grass because that Germany Troy quick El
(28:37):
German in five days and blue grass and fascue can
take like two or three weeks. Of Germany, it's a
long time.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
So I like this.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
I like to stabies and swet with a little perennial
rye grass in the mix. But get a blend of
grasses in the mix, get a suitable one for sun
or shade. Most most homes have a have a mixture
of sunny and shady conditions. So I like a mixture
of blue grass and finally fescu with the little rye
grass in there. That's the only way to go generally going. Yeah,
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and I think we talked about this. Can we talk
about that two weeks ago?
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Probably?
Speaker 4 (29:11):
So all you gotta do is go to FreeTV dot org.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Can you remember that?
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Everybody free TV dot org. That's the code of media
access or d M a dot org. D M a
dot org the same same, same sight, and you can
go push the Dakota look at the programs Dakota Growing
and you can watch Kelsey's presentation two weeks ago. They'll
tell you the best grass seed. There you go, what
there you go in depth?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
You go, Okay, I'm not I'm not going to keep
us long winded today.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
We did that already, kidding, just kidding, Okay, we're gonna
talk about.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
She didn't fall asleep.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
This time.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
We're gonna talk about continued for a cultural concern. So
I'm gonna continue focusing on those apples.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
This is what I keep seeing.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Top keep getting apples that have issues damage, and so
we tack both about coddling moth. But we're gonna keep
this brief because we've talked about it.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
So, if you have those apples that have like holes
in them, that have like frash at the end, kind
of that sadust looking stuff, cut them open. You see
those nice tunnels to the center. That is coddling moth damage.
So what do we need to do? Pick up and
remove those apples? Now next year, let's go ahead and
(30:31):
let's look at getting like a pheromone trap for them
hang those up in May, and then you got to
check them. How often would you say to check them
every few.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Days whenever you're born. Take a walk.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
You just can't stand listening to your kid playing the
trombone in the house. Just go outside and take a walk,
and then look at your pheromone trap.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Once a week.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Once a week.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Okay, So if you get them, you see the mail moth,
We need to apply those insecticides after the pedal fall,
and again you can use malth Ion or Pyrus Brian.
Those are gonna be good choices for that.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
That's right. The cotting mont is active right after the
petals fall. Okay.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
They go after those young fruits, so look for them
and a couple sprays and day interval will really help
if that's your problem. But I really like your idea, Kelsey,
about picking up the apple fruits now because the cotting moth,
the worm inside, we'll sleep in the soil over winter,
and that's right. They'll rest in the soil and emerge
(31:41):
as those moths in the spring. So I don't know
if you heard this over the last ten minutes or so,
but we're going to have a hard winter, so hopefully
they'll kill But just in case the Farmer's Almanac and
the National Weather Service is wrong, which can happen sometimes.
Cotting motts could survive in the sauce. So let's get
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those fruits out. He cares about those wasps. They're very
attracted to damage fruits. So maybe we're some gloves while
you do there. Just be smart about it.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
You know, not to sidetrack so much. But I last week,
I know we talked about it. I think when Joe
was in here, I was smoking cream cheese again on
our smoker and I put that.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Beach hallipino jam. All dang, the wasp just came and congregated.
They must have just smelt it.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
I like hot peppers.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Well it's peach, so it's a jam. You know, it's sweet.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
And I was like, oh man, you guys are bugging
me being right outside my door on my smokers.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I'm trying to get the cream cheese off. Yeah. They're
still out there. They're prevalent.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Yeah, they're gonna be there until the frost comes. Their
populations keep rising until the frost.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Yeah, so beware definitely, But no crickets on your crickets
have lessened.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Oh yeah, I don't know if I speak suppose them
more like I did some good.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, I mean I did get a new puppy this spring,
and she does like to go get flies. She likes
to attack the insects.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
It's kind of funny. You see her hobbit.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
She does.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
She jumps up and grounds them.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
A puppy, Yeah, gets a house fly flies.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yes, that's pretty quick.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yes, she's a good fly hunter. Okay, Apple Maga's number
one apple pass. We've said this before again. You see
these apples with the dimples in them, you cut them open,
you get all the brown kind of tunneling in there.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Same thing.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
You're gonna look for an apple Mega trap. Tom's talked
about it before. How you can make your own one.
Make sure you're putting them in the tree late June
you're detecting it. Harborall mouth I on or spindle sat
are going to be some options for insect size free.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
There, you're looking for a fly, not a moth. So
in case you don't have a puppy around, your apple
trick should get the flies. Yeah, hang a trap. There's
cod there's apple Mega traps available at major garden centers
and online.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
You can buy them. You don't have to make your own.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
You can.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
They're they're readily available.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Yeah, but they late June at a different time than
they wake up late.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Those flies.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah, well they want to make sure the frost has
gone when they wake up.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Probably I never thought of that. It's probably you want to.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Come out and maybe maybe sleep late.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Okay, jumping over the cankers in the tree. So I
got these pictures actually a couple of weeks ago, and
stuff on some fruit trees, and so really they wanted
to know what the white stuff was on the tree, which,
as you see I put in there, they got mushroom
or fung guy that's already developed. That's indicative of dead
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or dying wood. But circled in that bottom right photo,
how evident the color change. This coloration is of the bark,
and even on our left photo might be a little
bit harder to see for our viewers, but you zoom in,
you can actually see the sap oozing out.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
So there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
About oozing is very bad. I think the mushrooms are
bad too. The fung guy growing, they're done.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Yeah, it can't. You can't spray them. The fungus is
deeply embedded in the wood. It can be like a
couple feet or more throut.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
So just it's sad, but.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
It's heartbreak again, it's.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Not more heartbreak.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
I guess that death sad. I like that picture on
the right with that oranges canker.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
It's really prevalent.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Yeah, I got to look for that. That's so like
the first that's one of the first signs of a
pocket of disease. If it's on a branch, we could
cut it out. But if it's on the trunk, out
is if you cut it out, that's the whole tree.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
That's how to kill a tree again. Right, we talked
earlier how to kill tree it down.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Okay, So you talked a little bit about lawn care.
I'm gonna shift over to planting trees.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
So our roots of our trees they need just like
you talk about the roots right now in grass being
really strong. These guys, if you're gonna plant trees, need
adequate time to become established before winter.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
So what does that look like?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
When should we be doing that? And so this is
a map that was kind of done up.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
It sounds like from Joel several years ago he created
that and stuff, and so you see Burley County right there.
It needs to be planted by October first.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
That's the ideal time. Ideal ideal time.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
After October first, every day after that your odds get worse.
Of it's of it thriving. So if you can do
it is do it soon, do it soon, especially a
conifer an evergreen. I think it's very important for evergreens
because their needles are exposed all winter, so hard to
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get it done in October one if you can.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah, and if you happen to be listening in the
western or northwestern part of the state, you're right at
that point you should be planting your trees if you're
going to put any.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
More in this fall. Have you ever planted in the fall?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeap.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
I actually have planted a tree a couple of weeks ago,
so still alive.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
The miracle hasn't died yet.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Okay, So how should we go ahead and plant this?
The biggest thing is is you need to have that
root collar slightly above the soil line. And so I
have a picture here just showing that. And we talked
about this time and time again, how our trees get
planted too deeply, and so you want to see that
flare right at the soil line there.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Yeah, just above the tallest roots, you know, flares. That's naturally,
that's the way, that's where it should be.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Okay, here's a question.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
What if you get some of those smaller roots rate
like their rate there and then they're like above it.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
What's the best to do? Can you cut them? Do
you cover?
Speaker 3 (38:37):
It?
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
There's a few ears, just make it there.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
We'll just die off.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Yep, no loss, no big deal, okank good?
Speaker 1 (38:48):
And then watering Ageah, we've kind of talked about this too.
This is kind of just.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
A general rule, but ten gallons per inch of diameter.
Talked about how those watering bags are really helpful in
that sense as well.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Is that what you did with yours? Are you watering?
Speaker 4 (39:04):
You know?
Speaker 3 (39:04):
My tree is too small for a water bag?
Speaker 1 (39:07):
A little one.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
It's a little uh orphan tree that someone gave to
my wife. Oh, she's very happy about it. Oh, planted it.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Give you that baby. Lots of care. Not that much, okay,
Wally's you're honest.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
But it was free.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
So if he gets if he gets something to someone
for free, they don't have high They just well they
just won't respect it. You know, That's that's true in life.
You know, you give something free, like here's a free
packet of seeds. I don't even know they're gonna plant it.
But if they say, here, Tom, here's two bucks, and
I have that packet of seeds, Okay, there you go.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Now I know they're gonna plant. Have you ever heard
of that?
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, I'm a Rellis ball. But and I was so
proud of that. It bloomed so beautifully.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Well it was, it was beautiful.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
Yeah, just like rental gardens we had. I had that lesson,
like do you charge to like when I establish a
rental garden, do you charge the rental fees? Yes, of course,
because if you don't charge, they're not going to respect
the land and they're gonna let it all go to weeds.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
You guys only got buy into it.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Yeah, buy into it, and then you can say, oh,
people have a depositive least then if you take care
of it, will get your deposit back. So anyhow, if
that tree was free, so I don't respect, don't come
in life, I don't really respect that tree. She's watching
like Korean movies, drama movies, you know, and.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
They're all speaking Korean. Thank goodness for translation.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Maybe we need to talk to Quinn about translating transcribing this.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Yeah, we should have like so creative comments. Okay, Quinn,
if you're listening, I recommend that we do that because
I have Actually okay, we're not, but you know you
said ten gallons per inch of diameter.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Okay, that's per week, per week.
Speaker 6 (41:10):
Yes, sorry, Okay, that's important because like not every day
like my well actually, if it's a yeah, like the
first week or two, you want to you want to
make sure it never dries out, So like this only
for the first week or two, just like maybe every
other day, give a little drink, and but the whole
total would be ten.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Gallons per week. Just keep that in mind.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
And if the water, if it's moist, don't water it
doesn't want it, doesn't need it. I just gotta have air.
The roots gotta breathe too. They got to drink and
they gotta breathe. So if you keep watering it, they're
gonna drown. So make sure the soil it isn't what
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to begin with.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
There you go, and how about steaking what's your take,
you guys, staking.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
For the first few years of the first it windy.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Here, yeah, going on North Dakota winds like we had
what you yeah, come in and take them down.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Or snap them off yep.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
And then of course malt but I'm not going to
cover that. We already talked about that early.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
Yeah. I'm very sad that the photo you showed earlier
had no malting around it.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
I got another one.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
That's a more blike in the future if I was,
if I was a prognosticator and crystal ball, I see
this tree will die over the next five years. Cusk
a multirize, keep the lawnmower away. Lawn more is evil.
It's a shark, that's.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Right, Okay, so other things to consider this fall. Look
at this nice fall color. This is not and I
took it last.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
It's done. That mault around it.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
That maple is gonna have problems, that's right, got den
bark right.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
All right?
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Listen, you guys, please listen. It's a mault around that tree.
It's begging for it.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Otherwise it's gonna show early fall color and die. There
you go.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
I'm telling people, let's enjoy the fall color.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
While we have it, make sure that you are watering
weekly until freeze up. Also, rake up and destroy any
fallen leaves, whether if they had like we had a
ton of fungus this years, so if they had fungus,
get them out.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Of the area.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
If you have healthy leaves, you might consider just going
ahead and mulching that more.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
You can just mow them more over them, as long
as you look behind them more and you see you
can see the grass blades.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
If you're then you're okay.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
If you don't see the grass blades, if it's still
covered with mulched up leaves, then you gotta rake them.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Yeah, that's a little thick.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
That's a little bit, and that's maples.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
Maple's gotta it can have it be thick underneath the
maple tree, Norway maple especially, they got broad leaves, big leave.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
You can prone a dead wood anytime of the year
if it's dead. But of course, if you got the
living and you're just gonna go ahead and do like
a nice little haircut annual pruning, you want to wait
till the dormant season, so really laid fall early spring.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Is when most people do it.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
And also finally, let's make sure that we wrap our trees.
We can't talk about that enough, especially you talking about
the sensitive wood on those maples that you showed earlier.
Did one of the plastic wraps to reflect.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
That heat that's right from the winter sun? Or are
there's craft paper you can use to but those those
white tree guards do a good job reflecting the damaging
rays of the winter sun. That's why we wrap a
tree is mainly, yeah, keep it cool. If you look
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at almost any mature maple tree in Bismarck, if you
look on the southwest side, it's going to have a
vertical crack and that's winter sun damage.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
So wrapped a tree for a map like the first
five years, I'd say, until it gets good texture on
the bar.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Protect them so you don't have to have heartbreak.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
That's the message today, I guess. So all right, one
last thing to wrap up to day. I mean, talk
about picnic beetles. Do you have any of these coming.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
Or I'm not a picnic guy, so I'm not. I
don't want picnic beetles.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Well, I had a gentleman last week bring me in
a little vial of bugs, and he said, I have
these black beetles inside my mato plants. Oh well, oh
my gosh, I opened the vial and I about threw up.
It dunk so bad. He had had them sitting for
about a week.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
Cool.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Yeah, not cool. So I said, why don't you bring
back some fresh samples.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
That are the bugs where the bugs alive?
Speaker 1 (45:56):
No, smell like a dead mouse. Sounds terrible, terrible.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
I think picnic beetles like overripe.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
They do, so we're going to talk about Look at you.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
I think I would have liked that being inside that
plastic bag for a couple of days.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
So here's a nice picture of the picnic beetle, kind
of the cool orange spots on it.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Back.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Basically what happens is they are going to go on
most of the time already damaged or even like diseased
fruit and create more damage. But they also do go
after healthy produce. And the gentleman that came in, that's
what they were going after is nice ripe tomatoes, and
based off as pictures, I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Say they were like overly ripe at that.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Time, but you're just gonna see deep, deep poles in them.
So what do we need to do? To protect our plants.
You can start monitoring for those in July. You want
to remove any disease damage or overripe produce, especially like strawberries.
You want to be looking out for strawberries. They like
strawberries too. To monitor those strawberry tomatoes, Well, they do
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like tomatoes. But if you're going to start monitoring in July,
those strawberries are usually right there there.
Speaker 4 (47:10):
You know, I bet that guy had rotten tomatoes somewhere
the tract right there on.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
The on the soil.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
Yeah, it was that broaden there. They're not going to
walk into a tomato catch normally. Yeah, there's probably it
had to be some over ripe rotten fruit, like you say, strawberries.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
This happens a lot with raspberries.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Yeah, yeah, I believe it.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
So then of course already said get rid of any
of those over ripe vegetables fruit. But you can also
use baits to produce populations. Again, if you would have
high enough populations, you can use like a stale beer, molasses,
water yeast mixture, or even like just vinegar, or even
over ripe fruit. They want to place a few traps
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outside of outside, like a few feet outside the garden
and then just check that out every three four days
and discard any any of the content in it. No
need for pesticides on this guy at all. Any other hm.
You seem like you're pondering something.
Speaker 4 (48:13):
So yep, you know again. I think the sanitations by
far the most important thing. We gotta just can't have
overripe fruit, can't have it, rotten fruit at the soil.
I'll just bring them in. So good sanitations what it's
all about. If you did want to spray, we do have.
It's a nice thing about some of these botanical pesticides
(48:35):
like pyreeth Brian. That's it's it's only active for a day.
You can knock him down and.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
If you had to.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
But every but the approaches you talked about are the
best way to go.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Good sanitation there you go clean it up all right
in My final message is just enjoy the change of seasons.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
So fun. Sure you know from a door literally a
year ago, but there was a nice book pretty happening
when we were out riding. Don't even talk to Tom
about riding horse.
Speaker 4 (49:12):
Oh that's not right at least that what the horse
told me when I sat on it. Get off me,
big old fat guy get off? Yeah, breaking my back yep,
I'll just say that.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
M hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:28):
The door has its own special beauty and fall very much.
Not exactly like New England though, but.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
It is really pretty thought in some of those like
valleys and in between the buttes.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
Yeah, got its own special beauty.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
See a nice buy is it out there?
Speaker 3 (49:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (49:53):
Are you scared of a bison when you're on your horse?
Speaker 2 (49:56):
I mean we definitely keep distance, but you know, no,
you can't be.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
They live with the wild horse there, right, leave them alone.
You don't need to go.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
You don't even go pet them or anything.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Oh geez, no, no, if we just avoid them. I
mean we've gotten close to some, but we like upon accident.
We're not like, oh, let's go ride in a few
feet next to them. No.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
I hate snake, so if I see him, I'm out.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
I enjoy the change of seasons, at least this change
of season, right, the fall. I don't know about enjoying
the winter coming. That's a change of season. I don't
like myself personally. Yeah, that's why I don't know where
I live here long in Florida.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
But whatever, any last minute words of wisdom besides that.
Speaker 4 (50:54):
No, we're here in North Dakota because of the people.
The best people, not the best weather. The best people
are in North Dakota. So yeah, and listen to gardening season. Sure,
just got to be a word to the deadlines. Now
winter is coming, got some stuff to do. Now, let's
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get it going, let's get it done.
Speaker 3 (51:18):
Yeah, so that next year we're already have a great
year next year. There you go, Well, there you go.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
All right with that.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
I think that's a wrap. And we'll just say thanks
for joining us on today's episode, and of course we
hope that you will join us with our fewer episodes.
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I'm Kelsey Deckert, your horticulture agent here in Burley County,
joined in the radio Access studio by my co host
Tom Call the NDSU Extension Horticulture US.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Here we are mid September.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
That's right, happy about it?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Happy about it?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yep. Good time of the year. Fall, love the fall.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, start change colors out in the landscape.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Football, vikings, bison, let's go. Everything is good.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Cooler nights, cooler nights is really nice.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Crickets at night.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
We talked about those are great and nice.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
And I like it. Good in sunny days is kind
of nice.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, we've had a little bit of a warm spout here, right.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Winter likes that no winter? I heard? Do you hear that.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
There's gonna be no winter?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
No? The articles I've been global warming?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
No, was that wrong that I read wrong?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I think I've been reading that harsh winter?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah? Is that right?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Farmer's Almanac?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
You know, Okay, whatever they say, just lip the script
that they.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Say it's going to be it's gonna be cold, it's
gonna be warm.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
There's something about this whole al Nina that's right.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
There is truth in that.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah. So they say it could be what I hear
is there could be like below average temperatures.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I don't know what that means for precipitation, but.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Oh I heard that. I heard that.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Now that you mentioned that, Yeah, it's gonna be colder winter.
They say a likelihood of a colder winter, not for sure,
and and uh nothing uh.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
No real, uh uh.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
It's precipitation, not especially dry, not especially wet average.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah. Well they just say like, there's no they can't
like put the odds on anything.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
So they're just getting normal chances, right.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Probably normal chances. But what does that mean?
Speaker 4 (02:19):
That's great news because emerald dashboard will I'll set it
back again. That's good again. A cold winter is not
a bad thing, you know, it's a good thing, at
least a couple of weeks of it.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Oh, I like dry winters don't have to shovel as much,
and everything is good. Life is good.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Okay, So should we talk about what's going on currently?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Yeah, we're going to talk about right now, and I'm
going to start my presentation for today. It's called Heartbreak
and Harvest. That's where we are today. And you know,
one of the best things about fall is the fall colors. Right, yes, great,
So here I got a picture of I took this
picture yesterday in Bismarck.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
And what do you think is that tree? That maple
tree look good to you?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Fine?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I mean people are probably concerned because it's already got
fall color in the one next to it's pretty green.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Yeah, well actually that's not a mean next to it
because we're in diversity.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
You know that, well we should be.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
So thisis Mark was very smart about that. They have
all kinds of different trees. But you know, you're really
kind of you hit the nail on the head there,
tell us a little bit.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Like you see.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
When I see early fall color, I don't go, oh wow,
that's so cool. I go, oh no, that tree is suffering.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
What's wrong?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Why are you turning red so fast? And so then
I took a picture right there at its base.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
My gosh, look at I forgot.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
It's the shark.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
The shark the lawn more that's more blanked. Man, Just
rip the side out of the tree. And now the
tree has got to shut down early and conserve its energy.
Here's another one right right down the street. Early fall color.
Oh so nice? No, No, another lawn more blight there
just ripped it out.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
So does that mean long term you can expect that
every year with this tree having that kind of damage,
well that early fall.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Color, well until it heals itself.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah, which will take several.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Years exclamation points.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Decades starting to heal.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
You see, you can see the healing of a tree
when you look at the edges.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
It kind of you'll see it'll roll up.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Yeah, it's kind of like a wave rolling to heel
it up, like like if you cut a limb, you
see a donut as it it rolls up and heals
the wound. But this takes a long time. And maples
have a thin bark. They're very sensitive. So here is
our dreaded enemy, the lawnmower. Lawn more man. You know,
(05:01):
every time you start your lawnmower, every tree in your
yard shakes and shivers in fear because it's helpless. And lawnmowers,
if they bite into bark, that's they're they're exposing the
most precious wood of a tree.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Look at this blight again, this is a sin.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
If I was a tree cop and in biz Mark,
this person would get by to ten for sure.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Just that is just crael.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Years and no more planting.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
They'd have to listen to me talk horticulture for five
to ten years. That's how much punishment they would have
to be, just horticulture agony listening to me. I would
scream at them stop doing that. So let's do this diagramatically. Here,
here's our nice, healthy tree, and then you put a
gash in it. Okay, Now, the most precious wood of
(05:53):
a tree is just beneath the bar. That's where the
new growth comes, not from the core, not from the
inside of the tree. The new growth comes just beneath
the bark, just like the tree. If you can just
imagine the tree as a tree gets sticker, it puts
on a.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
New layer of paint. Every year.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
New growth comes just beneath the bark. And while the
water nutrients travel in the ring just beneath the bark,
So you know, the nutrients are being shipped down to
the roots, and that's fine, that's normal.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
But if in that gashed area, that stops the.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Flow of nutrients down to the roots, and so the
roots don't be able to grow, and that inhibits the
growth of the tree itself. This is a major crime
against the tree. Just cruelty. Okay, here's you. Now see
here's the picture that all everything was damaged.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Wrong tree.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
And so this was done on purpose. And this reminds
you of an old story. When I was a county agent,
somebody said, Tom, what's the best way to kill a tree?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I got to kill a tree. I said, that's easy.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
All you gotta do is go around and remove the
bark all the way around the tree, and that will
expose where the layer, the Cambian we call it, where
the new growth comes from. So there'll be no more
new growth than that tree, and there'll be no nutrients
going down to the roots if you take the bark
all the way off the tree, and so the roots
will just shrivel up and the tree will die.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
This is called girdling. So yeah, it's called murder. That
is murder.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
And so you know what, the guy on the phones says,
thanks Tom, thanks for teaching me how to kill a tree.
I'm gonna kill my neighbor's tree right now.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
That true story. So there you go.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
You didn't shout at him, don't be going into the
neighbor's yard.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
I didn't say anything. I was just in shock, but
I wasn't accomplished to the crime I must admit. But
the statute of limitations is over on that. That was
twenty five years ago. But as you can see what
it diagram, we see all all everything shut down. No,
no nutrients are going down to the roots, because that
(08:03):
goes through right beneath the bark. Okay, just important. The
most important wood of a tree is just beneath the bark.
You gotta protect the bark to be careful with the moor.
And one of the best ways it just put maulting
around the tree. Malting so great. It conserves moisture, keeps
weeds down, it moderates the soil temperature not too hot,
(08:28):
not too cold.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
And it keeps the lawnmower away.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Very important. So how do you malt a tree? The
old rule of three three three is a good one.
The mult layer should be about three inches stick and
it should be at least the malt ring should be
at least three feet in diameter three feet wide. And
you should have no malt three inches near the trunk.
(08:54):
No malts because otherwise the metal mice will get in
there and they'll nibble on the bark. About three inches
of bark around that tree and it'll be so happy
and the more will be gone. Okay, I saw that yesterday.
I just had to talk about it. I just get
so mad when I see more blight. It's just careless, reckless,
(09:19):
mean to restos trees. I mean, those trees are special.
They're like hundreds of dollars and that scarred for decades
just out of carelessness. Don't do that. That's my that's
my mean spirited talk for today. Now let's talk about something.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Was that the heartbreak?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Then that's the heartbreak. Another heartbreak's coming as frost. Sorry
about that. Frost is coming. According to the Farmer's Alvenact,
it's coming, I guess. So when does the first frost come?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I got it.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I'm showing a graph here, and thirty two degrees is
a light frost and twenty eight degrees fair and hie
is what we.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Call a killing frost.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
So about ten percent of the years in Bismarck Mandan
we get a light frost by September eleventh, so that's
pretty early, and a killing frost September nineteenth right around. Now,
that's about ten percent of the year. That's an early
early frost. But like here, most years we get our
first light frost the last week of September and a
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hard killing frost the first week of October. But some years,
like one out of ten, it'll be delayed all the
way into October eighth for light frost and October seventeenth
for a killing frost. My message there is frost is
around the corner. You can count on it, probably a
light frost the last week of September and a killing
frost the first week of October. So if you got
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a good harvest, we've got a good gardens. Now what
do you protect? You gotta protect the vulnerable ones. So beans, cucumbers, tomato,
and zucchini. They cannot take any frost. So if you're
gonna put a blanket on anything, they'll give you a
couple of degrees of protection. And you want to put
it on those very sensitive crops, the cucumbers, tomato, zucchini.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I'm gonna say, people just expose the zucchini.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Huh wow, are we gonna got in that? You have
no respect for zucchini?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
No?
Speaker 4 (11:21):
I the Hall of Fame vegetable I do. People don't
respect just because it's so productive, and then you you
just you don't respect it.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I do I make. I just made a zucchini cake
last week, chocolate zucchini.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Cake, pocket zucchini cake.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
It is a staple. And I'm making zucchini hot dish.
There you have to do it.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Why do you want the frost to kill your zucchinis?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Very valuable.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Well, it's not my zucchini. I get that zucchini. Okay,
Remember I killed my garden.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I sorry, There's always tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
That's what I always next year.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
That's right, you got it.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
So some vegetables can take a light frost, and that
would be like carrots and lettuce and it's in winter.
Squash they can take a light frost, but not a
real hard killing twenty eight degree frost. And the heartiest
ones would be like the cabbage family, like cabbage, broccoli, kale, kurabbie.
They're pretty tough. They can take hard frost. No prom
(12:24):
kal can grow in the snow pretty much.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
It's so tough. I mean, we got temperas in twenty five.
Just fine. Those are the soldiers, Those are the tough ones.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
When they say winter is coming, there they laugh at winter.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
There you go. So you got to you gotta know
what vegetables are more sensitive.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
What about the apples?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
People always ask every year they want to let a
frost hit them because they get sweeter.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Right, that's right, And uh, you know, since you asked
that question, I will talk about that.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
No, I'm just sorry, I can, I can, I can.
Just I'll have it in five minutes for you you
had today, There you go.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Okay, how about your tomatoes. Okay, they can take frost. Now,
if it's just a very light frost, put a blanket
on your tomatoes and they'll give you a few degrees
of protection. But if it's like a hard frost coming,
nothing's going to say those tomatos. So we gotta go
out scramble and pick out all your tomatoes if you want,
if you want to, if you like, if you want
(13:25):
to ripe them indoors, And here's how you do it.
First of all, the tomatoes that will ripen indoors, they
have to be cracked free. If they have cracks and blemishes,
they won't. They won't ripe an indoors still rot. And
I like the tomatoes that at least have a blush
of color to them, solid green tomatoes.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Really, it's kind of they.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Usually don't work out so well, but if they're blushing
a little bit on the bottom of the fruit, that's
a positive sign. Now, tomatoes when they ripe and they
give off ethylene, which is a ripening gas, okay, and
so what we do. We want to trap that ripening
gas to enhance the riping tomatoes. So I start by
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laying out a sheet of paper. I put my tomatoes
on a single layer on top of that paper, and
then I put paper above that to trap the gas.
And we keep it away from direct sun because direct
son if you put if the tomatoes get direct sun,
I'll just ripen on the very outside the skin of
the fruit. So I want to ripen the whole fruit.
(14:29):
And room temperatures our best, but enhance the flavors. So
that's the best way. And you just check your tomatoes
every few days and you see any of their riting,
you gotta toss them.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Can you put them next to bananas?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Bananas will have ethylene. I think that's okay, But I
don't know what do you care about bananas?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
I do give up.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
They give off that gas ripod quick like if you
want to lady the bananas, Like you know, when you
buy a thing of what is it called?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I don't know, a bunch of a bunch of bananas,
that's what it's called a bunch. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
So then like sometimes they ripen so quick I have
to pull them aparts. They're not next to each other
and ripening.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
That's a promise. Well, you should have you should have
visited me in Taiwan. I had a banana tree and uh.
And when you get a bunch of bananas when it's ready,
that's like one hundred and fifty bananas at one time.
So you talk about like a zucchini in the garden,
(15:42):
what do you do with thee hundred and fifty bananas
at one time? And you get a big like a
machete and you caught off the bunch.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
And it's got this this goop.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
That comes out and kind of gets all over your
clothes and ruins your clothes. But it's kind of fun, harsing,
But it's a big bunch of bananas. That's when you
just have a banana part. You invite all the friends,
everybody has to nobody can leave without having at least
twenty bananas with them.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Send a bunch home with them.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
That's right there, Forsome, that'd be cool though it is cool.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
It would be, but we could grow banana trees in here.
I would have a bana.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Well, all you gotta do is buy a lottery ticket
and you know, put in and then move. Make it atrium,
you know, oh tropical atrium. You can have a parrot,
a banana, a mango tree.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
That's what I do.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
I had lemons and limes and oranges all those. Yeah, yeah,
we can't do that North Kota. Sorry, this is Dakota growing.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Not Florida.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Grou Florida growing more like Cuba, you know, equator. Okay, so, okay,
we talked about let's talk about winter squash. When is
winter squash?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Right?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
That's kind of tricky. I always look at the there's
an picture of an acorn squash. I look at the
underside of the fruit, and I want it to be golden.
It not white. On the underside. I've got a golden
spot on it. And then I don't want greenish tinge.
I want the greenish tinge way, and I want the
skin to be hard and glossy, and uh for me,
(17:20):
I kind of just do like the no brainer, Like, okay,
I just keep it on the vine until the hard
frost comes and then the night before the hard frost.
I just go out in my wheelbarrow and harvest all
the winter squash. That's the low key approach. And then
you clip them off to like a one inch stem.
Clip them off with the seers. There there's butternut squash. Again,
(17:43):
just clip it off. There's a hard, glossy rind, no
greenish tinge and the stem itself where you cut it,
it's gonna be dry. So winter squash will tell real
life frost, so that that's okay, And but it won't
take a heart frost. And so you got a harvest
before the hard twenty eight degree frost, and I just
(18:04):
clip off the fruits. You brush off the soil. You
don't you don't want to clean or wash winter squash
because that can encourage diseases. To just brush off the soil.
I just set them someplace warm, like like I bring.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Them in the garage.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
And then then then if you got some warm days
up ahead, I just set them out in the driveway
for about a week if you can, during the day
and about seventy to eighty five degrees and that will
help a harden the skin of the kind of cure
it a little bit. Then and Actually, we're gonna store
winter squash in a cool place in the basement works
(18:44):
good for me, and or an unheated garage. Maybe basement's
the best way. About fifty degrees as well, we're fifty
to sixty.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
And then winter.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Squash will develop flavor if you after storage. So like
some of the squash you can eat right away, like
the acorn, the dela cotta squash and spaghetti squash, they
get their maximum flavor right away, so you can eat
them right away. But buttercup squash if you store for
a month, it'll be more flavorful after a month. And
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butternut squash if you store for two months, it'll be
more flavorful. So there you go about nuts. Have you
prepared now for your frost heartbreak and how.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
To deal with it?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Those quite some time.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
They can under the right conditions. Maybe set them on
a pallet, get them off the ground and uh you
have a little air circulation underneath, and they'll really help.
And that tastes that's great. Actually, I always have tons
of squash more than I can eat. I love squash
soup good good for old people like me. Hot no warm, yeah, yeah, okay,
(19:55):
now you asked about apple. So in response, I have
to answer your question. Okay, there you go. You're the boss. Okay,
when it's an apple ripe, there's a red apple. I
look at the background color. The background color, when it
turns from greenish to yellowish, that's a good sign that
the apple fruit's ripe. Sometimes you notice, like on a
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windy day, see some of the apples falling. That's a
sign that you're probably about ready to harvest them. And
the every thing. When you harvest an apple, you should
have an upward motion. You don't, and it should come
off readily with an upward twisting motion. When you harvestick.
Don't yank down on the fruit because you can see
here in this picture right next to that fruit, that's
(20:40):
that's a flower for next year. That's a spur we
call it. That's next year's crub. So if you yank
down on the apple fruit, you could rip off the
flour for next year and reduce your crop next year.
So those are some tips about when your apple's right now.
As you say, some people say, oh, I want to
make sure that apples get a frost and they'll be sweeter.
(21:03):
That's wrong. We're wrong, because the apple fruit has its
maximum flavor when it's ripe, and then you should harvest
it whether or not it's got a frost or not,
because once it's apple gets starts getting over ripe, the
flavor quality is decreased and the texture gets mushy. So
(21:25):
pick the apple. Don't care about whether the frost is
here or not. Just pick it when it's ripe. But
if your apples aren't ripe and you have an early frost,
apples can take at least about twenty six degrees and
they'll be fine. But if it gets colder than that
and they get frozen, that's really sad. But you just
(21:49):
what you do. If if you get frozen apples, it
can still eat them there, you know, you just let
them unthaw, you harvest them, and you make apple sauce.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
But apples are about twenty six degrees. That's the key
temperature for apples. Again, though, harvest your apples when they're
right because we don't know when that frost is coming. Okay,
this got a couple last things. Talk about turf here.
Don't want the heartbreak and the harvesting. I'm gonna because
(22:18):
there's a lot of deadlines right now. September is the
best time to improve your lawn. Okay, So let's just
talk about a few things and deadlines for us. Okay, fertilizing, Okay,
the best time to fertilize the lawn is in fall. Okay,
because like you know right now, I'd say, when I
look at my turf and the turf in the neighborhood,
(22:38):
I don't see a lot of lawnmowers going on.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Last week. You don't see a lot of top growth
going on.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I don't think I've mowed in probably two two and
a half going.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
On three weeks.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Now, what one's the last time you fertilize your lawn.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yeah, there we go, me too, actually. But two it's
called low maintenance and we're environmental.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
That's where we are. That's where that's why I see it.
Nothing wrong with nothing wrong with that. My lawn's doing
just fine. It's still green. That's all it curis. There
you go what else you want, but if you want,
But you know what my point is before I was
so rudely interrupted. There, what's that You don't see a
lot of top growth, But man, there's a lot of
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stuff going on underneath and in the soil because now
is when the roots grow, and that's the key to
a great lawn is to have thick, dense roots system.
That's gonna be a thick lawn that can tolerate bro
So we fertilize in September to promote a strong root
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system because our turf is actually very hungry right now.
It wants that fertilizer. However, the problem with God is
you can't. You can't keep delaying it. You gotta If
you're gonna fertilize it, you gotta do it now because
if you start, if you wait till October, you're gonna
you're gonna encourage new growth and that could be winter killed.
And Kelsey just said, we're gonna have a harsh winter,
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so we want are long to be prepared for the
harsh winter.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Okay, so.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
If you're gonna fertilize, you should have done it yesterday,
you know, a week ago.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
But do it right now, Okay, don't wait until October.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Okay. How about controlling weeds. Here's a little creep and
Charlie action or ground ivy we call it. And weeds
are also changing out. They're not putting on top growth either.
They're sending everything down into their roots to prepare for winter. Okay,
so how do you what's the best way to kill
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a weed. We got to get the herbicide into the roots.
So if we spray in mid till late September, this
ground ivy will take that herbicide and bring it down
to its roots along with its nutrients as it prepares
for winter. So the best time to kill weeds like
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thistles and clover and ground ivy and field bind weed,
all those perennial weeds is just spray it in mid
to late September because the weeds will take the herbicide
down to the root. Well, think about that over the
next two weeks. This is a great time to control
your weeds.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I'm gonna do take care of those grassy weeds I
fought all year in my flower beds like that. I
have no idea. Okay, listen, I have no idea. What
kind of grass hard to pull out? Put it that way? Okay,
it's not annuals.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Okay, that's the important thing. You gotta know what kind
of weed? Is it annual? It just germinate this year,
because if it is it's annual, it's dying it's gonna
die from frost. But like you say, if it's it's
hard to pull out, it's probably a perennial maybe like
quack grass and.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
All sorts of things.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yeah, I say quack grass is the number one among
the grasses. May I fescue Maybe I'm trying to think,
you know, almost.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
That's in there. The dirt compost mix came from the pasture,
so it'd be.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
All sort of orchard grass, Kim, I see all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, I don't really care about identity grass.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
You just want to kill it.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I want to kill it next year. I'm not dealing
with that with my flowers.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
You're gonna have a great gardener, I am, and you're
gonna do it. And also so again, next two weeks,
bray the weeds, so die down to the roots. Next
year you can have a great garden. So do a
little working out, really helping. Twenty twenty five great year
for gardening. Already got it. I don't know what the
Farmer's Almanac says, but that's what I think. And the
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last thing about seating, Okay, listen, you you got to
give the seed like fall is the best time to
put down grass. Seat because the ground's warm, the seed
of Germany quickly. You're not going to create a lot
of weeds coming up when you disturb this because weed
seeds don't want to germinate now, they're too smart. But
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the thing is you got to give the grass seedlings
enough time to get established. So it kind of say
mid like mid september's the deadline. So this and neir thing,
don't push it. If you're going to put down grass
seed that will germinate and get established this year, you
got to do it now, don't wait till October, otherwise
it may not get established in time. So those are
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all the heartbreak harvest, turf. What a lot of things
going on?
Speaker 1 (27:45):
What's your answer?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
And people always say I want to reseed, but what
should I receed?
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Fill in those bear spots?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Oh what do you want to? Okay?
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Well, what I do is I say, okay, what do
you want you go? Is it a sunny area or
a shady area? So that's the key question. And I'm
going to get a seed from a northern source. I'm
gonna see In general, there's three major groups of grass seed.
One is the Kentucky bluegrass, which is the best quality,
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but it's gotta have sun, right, it struggles in the shade.
If you've got a shady area, you want to fine
leaf fascues like red fascue, creeping red chewings, the red
fascue for the shaded area. And then I like a
little perennial rye grass because that Germany Troy quick El
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German in five days and blue grass and fascue can
take like two or three weeks. Of Germany, it's a
long time.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
So I like this.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
I like to stabies and swet with a little perennial
rye grass in the mix. But get a blend of
grasses in the mix, get a suitable one for sun
or shade. Most most homes have a have a mixture
of sunny and shady conditions. So I like a mixture
of blue grass and finally fescu with the little rye
grass in there. That's the only way to go generally going. Yeah,
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and I think we talked about this. Can we talk
about that two weeks ago?
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Probably?
Speaker 4 (29:11):
So all you gotta do is go to FreeTV dot org.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Can you remember that?
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Everybody free TV dot org. That's the code of media
access or d M a dot org. D M a
dot org the same same, same sight, and you can
go push the Dakota look at the programs Dakota Growing
and you can watch Kelsey's presentation two weeks ago. They'll
tell you the best grass seed. There you go, what
there you go in depth?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
You go, Okay, I'm not I'm not going to keep
us long winded today.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
We did that already, kidding, just kidding, Okay, we're gonna
talk about.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
She didn't fall asleep.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
This time.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
We're gonna talk about continued for a cultural concern. So
I'm gonna continue focusing on those apples.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
This is what I keep seeing.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Top keep getting apples that have issues damage, and so
we tack both about coddling moth. But we're gonna keep
this brief because we've talked about it.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
So, if you have those apples that have like holes
in them, that have like frash at the end, kind
of that sadust looking stuff, cut them open. You see
those nice tunnels to the center. That is coddling moth damage.
So what do we need to do? Pick up and
remove those apples? Now next year, let's go ahead and
(30:31):
let's look at getting like a pheromone trap for them
hang those up in May, and then you got to
check them. How often would you say to check them
every few.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Days whenever you're born. Take a walk.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
You just can't stand listening to your kid playing the
trombone in the house. Just go outside and take a walk,
and then look at your pheromone trap.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Once a week.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Once a week.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Okay, So if you get them, you see the mail moth,
We need to apply those insecticides after the pedal fall,
and again you can use malth Ion or Pyrus Brian.
Those are gonna be good choices for that.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
That's right. The cotting mont is active right after the
petals fall. Okay.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
They go after those young fruits, so look for them
and a couple sprays and day interval will really help
if that's your problem. But I really like your idea, Kelsey,
about picking up the apple fruits now because the cotting moth,
the worm inside, we'll sleep in the soil over winter,
and that's right. They'll rest in the soil and emerge
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as those moths in the spring. So I don't know
if you heard this over the last ten minutes or so,
but we're going to have a hard winter, so hopefully
they'll kill But just in case the Farmer's Almanac and
the National Weather Service is wrong, which can happen sometimes.
Cotting motts could survive in the sauce. So let's get
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those fruits out. He cares about those wasps. They're very
attracted to damage fruits. So maybe we're some gloves while
you do there. Just be smart about it.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
You know, not to sidetrack so much. But I last week,
I know we talked about it. I think when Joe
was in here, I was smoking cream cheese again on
our smoker and I put that.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Beach hallipino jam. All dang, the wasp just came and congregated.
They must have just smelt it.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
I like hot peppers.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Well it's peach, so it's a jam. You know, it's sweet.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
And I was like, oh man, you guys are bugging
me being right outside my door on my smokers.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I'm trying to get the cream cheese off. Yeah. They're
still out there. They're prevalent.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Yeah, they're gonna be there until the frost comes. Their
populations keep rising until the frost.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Yeah, so beware definitely, But no crickets on your crickets
have lessened.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Oh yeah, I don't know if I speak suppose them
more like I did some good.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, I mean I did get a new puppy this spring,
and she does like to go get flies. She likes
to attack the insects.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
It's kind of funny. You see her hobbit.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
She does.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
She jumps up and grounds them.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
A puppy, Yeah, gets a house fly flies.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yes, that's pretty quick.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Yes, she's a good fly hunter. Okay, Apple Maga's number
one apple pass. We've said this before again. You see
these apples with the dimples in them, you cut them open,
you get all the brown kind of tunneling in there.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Same thing.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
You're gonna look for an apple Mega trap. Tom's talked
about it before. How you can make your own one.
Make sure you're putting them in the tree late June
you're detecting it. Harborall mouth I on or spindle sat
are going to be some options for insect size free.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
There, you're looking for a fly, not a moth. So
in case you don't have a puppy around, your apple
trick should get the flies. Yeah, hang a trap. There's
cod there's apple Mega traps available at major garden centers
and online.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
You can buy them. You don't have to make your own.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
You can.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
They're they're readily available.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Yeah, but they late June at a different time than
they wake up late.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Those flies.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah, well they want to make sure the frost has
gone when they wake up.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Probably I never thought of that. It's probably you want to.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Come out and maybe maybe sleep late.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Okay, jumping over the cankers in the tree. So I
got these pictures actually a couple of weeks ago, and
stuff on some fruit trees, and so really they wanted
to know what the white stuff was on the tree, which,
as you see I put in there, they got mushroom
or fung guy that's already developed. That's indicative of dead
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or dying wood. But circled in that bottom right photo,
how evident the color change. This coloration is of the bark,
and even on our left photo might be a little
bit harder to see for our viewers, but you zoom in,
you can actually see the sap oozing out.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
So there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
About oozing is very bad. I think the mushrooms are
bad too. The fung guy growing, they're done.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Yeah, it can't. You can't spray them. The fungus is
deeply embedded in the wood. It can be like a
couple feet or more throut.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
So just it's sad, but.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
It's heartbreak again, it's.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Not more heartbreak.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
I guess that death sad. I like that picture on
the right with that oranges canker.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
It's really prevalent.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Yeah, I got to look for that. That's so like
the first that's one of the first signs of a
pocket of disease. If it's on a branch, we could
cut it out. But if it's on the trunk, out
is if you cut it out, that's the whole tree.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
That's how to kill a tree again. Right, we talked
earlier how to kill tree it down.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Okay, So you talked a little bit about lawn care.
I'm gonna shift over to planting trees.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
So our roots of our trees they need just like
you talk about the roots right now in grass being
really strong. These guys, if you're gonna plant trees, need
adequate time to become established before winter.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
So what does that look like?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
When should we be doing that? And so this is
a map that was kind of done up.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
It sounds like from Joel several years ago he created
that and stuff, and so you see Burley County right there.
It needs to be planted by October first.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
That's the ideal time. Ideal ideal time.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
After October first, every day after that your odds get worse.
Of it's of it thriving. So if you can do
it is do it soon, do it soon, especially a
conifer an evergreen. I think it's very important for evergreens
because their needles are exposed all winter, so hard to
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get it done in October one if you can.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah, and if you happen to be listening in the
western or northwestern part of the state, you're right at
that point you should be planting your trees if you're
going to put any.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
More in this fall. Have you ever planted in the fall?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeap.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
I actually have planted a tree a couple of weeks ago,
so still alive.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
The miracle hasn't died yet.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Okay, So how should we go ahead and plant this?
The biggest thing is is you need to have that
root collar slightly above the soil line. And so I
have a picture here just showing that. And we talked
about this time and time again, how our trees get
planted too deeply, and so you want to see that
flare right at the soil line there.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Yeah, just above the tallest roots, you know, flares. That's naturally,
that's the way, that's where it should be.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Okay, here's a question.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
What if you get some of those smaller roots rate
like their rate there and then they're like above it.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
What's the best to do? Can you cut them? Do
you cover?
Speaker 3 (38:37):
It?
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
There's a few ears, just make it there.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
We'll just die off.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Yep, no loss, no big deal, okank good?
Speaker 1 (38:48):
And then watering Ageah, we've kind of talked about this too.
This is kind of just.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
A general rule, but ten gallons per inch of diameter.
Talked about how those watering bags are really helpful in
that sense as well.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Is that what you did with yours? Are you watering?
Speaker 4 (39:04):
You know?
Speaker 3 (39:04):
My tree is too small for a water bag?
Speaker 1 (39:07):
A little one.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
It's a little uh orphan tree that someone gave to
my wife. Oh, she's very happy about it. Oh, planted it.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Give you that baby. Lots of care. Not that much, okay,
Wally's you're honest.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
But it was free.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
So if he gets if he gets something to someone
for free, they don't have high They just well they
just won't respect it. You know, That's that's true in life.
You know, you give something free, like here's a free
packet of seeds. I don't even know they're gonna plant it.
But if they say, here, Tom, here's two bucks, and
I have that packet of seeds, Okay, there you go.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Now I know they're gonna plant. Have you ever heard
of that?
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, I'm a Rellis ball. But and I was so
proud of that. It bloomed so beautifully.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Well it was, it was beautiful.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
Yeah, just like rental gardens we had. I had that lesson,
like do you charge to like when I establish a
rental garden, do you charge the rental fees? Yes, of course,
because if you don't charge, they're not going to respect
the land and they're gonna let it all go to weeds.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
You guys only got buy into it.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Yeah, buy into it, and then you can say, oh,
people have a depositive least then if you take care
of it, will get your deposit back. So anyhow, if
that tree was free, so I don't respect, don't come
in life, I don't really respect that tree. She's watching
like Korean movies, drama movies, you know, and.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
They're all speaking Korean. Thank goodness for translation.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Maybe we need to talk to Quinn about translating transcribing this.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Yeah, we should have like so creative comments. Okay, Quinn,
if you're listening, I recommend that we do that because
I have Actually okay, we're not, but you know you
said ten gallons per inch of diameter.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Okay, that's per week, per week.
Speaker 6 (41:10):
Yes, sorry, Okay, that's important because like not every day
like my well actually, if it's a yeah, like the
first week or two, you want to you want to
make sure it never dries out, So like this only
for the first week or two, just like maybe every
other day, give a little drink, and but the whole
total would be ten.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Gallons per week. Just keep that in mind.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
And if the water, if it's moist, don't water it
doesn't want it, doesn't need it. I just gotta have air.
The roots gotta breathe too. They got to drink and
they gotta breathe. So if you keep watering it, they're
gonna drown. So make sure the soil it isn't what
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to begin with.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
There you go, and how about steaking what's your take,
you guys, staking.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
For the first few years of the first it windy.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Here, yeah, going on North Dakota winds like we had
what you yeah, come in and take them down.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Or snap them off yep.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
And then of course malt but I'm not going to
cover that. We already talked about that early.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
Yeah. I'm very sad that the photo you showed earlier
had no malting around it.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
I got another one.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
That's a more blike in the future if I was,
if I was a prognosticator and crystal ball, I see
this tree will die over the next five years. Cusk
a multirize, keep the lawnmower away. Lawn more is evil.
It's a shark, that's.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Right, Okay, so other things to consider this fall. Look
at this nice fall color. This is not and I
took it last.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
It's done. That mault around it.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
That maple is gonna have problems, that's right, got den
bark right.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
All right?
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Listen, you guys, please listen. It's a mault around that tree.
It's begging for it.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Otherwise it's gonna show early fall color and die. There
you go.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
I'm telling people, let's enjoy the fall color.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
While we have it, make sure that you are watering
weekly until freeze up. Also, rake up and destroy any
fallen leaves, whether if they had like we had a
ton of fungus this years, so if they had fungus,
get them out.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Of the area.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
If you have healthy leaves, you might consider just going
ahead and mulching that more.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
You can just mow them more over them, as long
as you look behind them more and you see you
can see the grass blades.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
If you're then you're okay.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
If you don't see the grass blades, if it's still
covered with mulched up leaves, then you gotta rake them.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Yeah, that's a little thick.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
That's a little bit, and that's maples.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
Maple's gotta it can have it be thick underneath the
maple tree, Norway maple especially, they got broad leaves, big leave.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
You can prone a dead wood anytime of the year
if it's dead. But of course, if you got the
living and you're just gonna go ahead and do like
a nice little haircut annual pruning, you want to wait
till the dormant season, so really laid fall early spring.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Is when most people do it.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
And also finally, let's make sure that we wrap our trees.
We can't talk about that enough, especially you talking about
the sensitive wood on those maples that you showed earlier.
Did one of the plastic wraps to reflect.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
That heat that's right from the winter sun? Or are
there's craft paper you can use to but those those
white tree guards do a good job reflecting the damaging
rays of the winter sun. That's why we wrap a
tree is mainly, yeah, keep it cool. If you look
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at almost any mature maple tree in Bismarck, if you
look on the southwest side, it's going to have a
vertical crack and that's winter sun damage.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
So wrapped a tree for a map like the first
five years, I'd say, until it gets good texture on
the bar.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Protect them so you don't have to have heartbreak.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
That's the message today, I guess. So all right, one
last thing to wrap up to day. I mean, talk
about picnic beetles. Do you have any of these coming.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
Or I'm not a picnic guy, so I'm not. I
don't want picnic beetles.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Well, I had a gentleman last week bring me in
a little vial of bugs, and he said, I have
these black beetles inside my mato plants. Oh well, oh
my gosh, I opened the vial and I about threw up.
It dunk so bad. He had had them sitting for
about a week.
Speaker 3 (45:48):
Cool.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Yeah, not cool. So I said, why don't you bring
back some fresh samples.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
That are the bugs where the bugs alive?
Speaker 1 (45:56):
No, smell like a dead mouse. Sounds terrible, terrible.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
I think picnic beetles like overripe.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
They do, so we're going to talk about Look at you.
Speaker 4 (46:06):
I think I would have liked that being inside that
plastic bag for a couple of days.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
So here's a nice picture of the picnic beetle, kind
of the cool orange spots on it.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
Back.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Basically what happens is they are going to go on
most of the time already damaged or even like diseased
fruit and create more damage. But they also do go
after healthy produce. And the gentleman that came in, that's
what they were going after is nice ripe tomatoes, and
based off as pictures, I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Say they were like overly ripe at that.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Time, but you're just gonna see deep, deep poles in them.
So what do we need to do? To protect our plants.
You can start monitoring for those in July. You want
to remove any disease damage or overripe produce, especially like strawberries.
You want to be looking out for strawberries. They like
strawberries too. To monitor those strawberry tomatoes, Well, they do
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like tomatoes. But if you're going to start monitoring in July,
those strawberries are usually right there there.
Speaker 4 (47:10):
You know, I bet that guy had rotten tomatoes somewhere
the tract right there on.
Speaker 3 (47:15):
The on the soil.
Speaker 4 (47:16):
Yeah, it was that broaden there. They're not going to
walk into a tomato catch normally. Yeah, there's probably it
had to be some over ripe rotten fruit, like you say, strawberries.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
This happens a lot with raspberries.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Yeah, yeah, I believe it.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
So then of course already said get rid of any
of those over ripe vegetables fruit. But you can also
use baits to produce populations. Again, if you would have
high enough populations, you can use like a stale beer, molasses,
water yeast mixture, or even like just vinegar, or even
over ripe fruit. They want to place a few traps
(47:55):
outside of outside, like a few feet outside the garden
and then just check that out every three four days
and discard any any of the content in it. No
need for pesticides on this guy at all. Any other hm.
You seem like you're pondering something.
Speaker 4 (48:13):
So yep, you know again. I think the sanitations by
far the most important thing. We gotta just can't have
overripe fruit, can't have it, rotten fruit at the soil.
I'll just bring them in. So good sanitations what it's
all about. If you did want to spray, we do have.
It's a nice thing about some of these botanical pesticides
(48:35):
like pyreeth Brian. That's it's it's only active for a day.
You can knock him down and.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
If you had to.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
But every but the approaches you talked about are the
best way to go.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Good sanitation there you go clean it up all right
in My final message is just enjoy the change of seasons.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
So fun. Sure you know from a door literally a
year ago, but there was a nice book pretty happening
when we were out riding. Don't even talk to Tom
about riding horse.
Speaker 4 (49:12):
Oh that's not right at least that what the horse
told me when I sat on it. Get off me,
big old fat guy get off? Yeah, breaking my back yep,
I'll just say that.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
M hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:28):
The door has its own special beauty and fall very much.
Not exactly like New England though, but.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
It is really pretty thought in some of those like
valleys and in between the buttes.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
Yeah, got its own special beauty.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
See a nice buy is it out there?
Speaker 3 (49:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (49:53):
Are you scared of a bison when you're on your horse?
Speaker 2 (49:56):
I mean we definitely keep distance, but you know, no,
you can't be.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
They live with the wild horse there, right, leave them alone.
You don't need to go.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
You don't even go pet them or anything.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Oh geez, no, no, if we just avoid them. I
mean we've gotten close to some, but we like upon accident.
We're not like, oh, let's go ride in a few
feet next to them. No.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
I hate snake, so if I see him, I'm out.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
I enjoy the change of seasons, at least this change
of season, right, the fall. I don't know about enjoying
the winter coming. That's a change of season. I don't
like myself personally. Yeah, that's why I don't know where
I live here long in Florida.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
But whatever, any last minute words of wisdom besides that.
Speaker 4 (50:54):
No, we're here in North Dakota because of the people.
The best people, not the best weather. The best people
are in North Dakota. So yeah, and listen to gardening season. Sure,
just got to be a word to the deadlines. Now
winter is coming, got some stuff to do. Now, let's
(51:16):
get it going, let's get it done.
Speaker 3 (51:18):
Yeah, so that next year we're already have a great
year next year. There you go, Well, there you go.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
All right with that.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
I think that's a wrap. And we'll just say thanks
for joining us on today's episode, and of course we
hope that you will join us with our fewer episodes.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
Dakota Growing is a gardening show brought to you by
Dakota Media Access and NDSU Extension.
Speaker 6 (51:38):
We discuss a variety of timely topics pertaining to your landscape,
along with giving you tips and advice for your lawn,
garden and trees.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
If you have questions, call seven oh one two two
one six eight sixty five or email NDSU dot Burley
dot Extension at NDSU dot com.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
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