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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Welcome to Dakota Growing. I'm Kelsey Deckert, your horticulture agent
here in Burley County, joined in the Radio Access studio
by my co host Tom Kobb NDSU Extension Horticulture Chris, and.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
We also have a guest today.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
We have NDSU Extension intern Hunter Gallinger. If I say
that right, we're just laughing at my pronunciation ahead of
time here.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Welcome Hunter, Thank you, yeah, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Of course, how's things going today for everybody?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
It's cooler, yep, cool, cloudy, yeah, but spent exciting week.
We had a big hailstorm, really had golf fall sized heil.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Did you get that at your place?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Definitely damage, No, but my wife was out on the
deck trying to take a video of it for like Facebook,
and I go, wow, this is going to be your
last video, Like, are you nuts? You're going to die
out here? You know? It's like because it was, it
was serious, it was wild, it was serious.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I had to drive in.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
That, Oh did you That's no fun.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
No vehicles got some damage to you.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
But we had our achievement days last week, so that
happened on our horse day and like horse day.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Ended at the perfect time.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
But Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I mean probably shouldn't. Probably should have ended twenty minute
twenty minutes earlier. At least then I wouldn't have had
to drove it. But what do you do do You
either outrun the storm or read it out.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I outran it.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yeah, try to, Yeah, try to get the radar, see
what's going on. And then if you're there, like sometimes
I go like under a bridge or next to a
tall trees that can shield me.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, in the country, there's not those options at all.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Kind of scary. Yeah, kind of just got a hope
that the clouds moved the other way.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, but it's been a wild year for weather. I
feel like, like I do not remember.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Growing up a couple of tornadoes and.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Seeing back to back weeks of severe weather. I finally
last week looked out and I was like, man, my
garden's not very nice. Neither are my flowers anymore.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
But.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Let them be.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Well, if you've got bad flowers, I think we have
somebody here who can help you with that. Hope, so
our flower expert for and yes you extension.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
She also told.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Me growing up that she was in FFA and did
floor culture, so she has that background.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
In her own floral the study of flowers.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Competed.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
So that's one of the competitions.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Oh yeah, yeah. If anybody needs like a corsage or
a boot near Oh really, yeah, I can make one.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Is that your side business? It should? It should advertiseing.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
That was stressful was high school corsages. I remember those
two so shy. Oh my gosh, that was so stressful.
Oh yeah, what color is your dress? Blah?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Oh gosh, glad You're way past that point.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Yeah. Yeah, I just too shy. That's just too shy.
That was just it's my fault. I should have just
been stronger.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
You live and learn.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I'm just going to go I ask her out. Let's
just go for it, not you know, scared.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Should we get on the topics of fort Should we
talk about Dakota growing?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Let's talk about flowers?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
All right?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
So Hunter, you're gonna start us off today, and what
are you going to be talking about today for us?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Okay, yeah, so today I'll kind of be discussing cut flowers,
gardening and then also preserving them.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
So yeah, it's start. I'm ready and happy to learn.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah. So yeah, just getting into it a little bit.
Considerations for flower growing. There's lots of different things that
you got to take into account, like before you put
any plants in the ground, So cut flowers aren't really
any different. So location is definitely one of them. Are
you gonna do raised beds? Are you going to do
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in the ground? What sort of space do you have?
Lots of cut flowers also really need full sun, so
kind of like in your yard, looking looking around seeing
where is that full sun location? And then also supports
many cut flowers need like a trellis or support system,
especially when they start getting taller, they want to flop down.
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Gotta discourage that, so some sort of support system for them.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I think this is a good topic too, just because
like today, especially locally, there is a lot of cut
flower growers.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah, and I think a lot of people don't realize
how beautiful bouquets you can get and not out of
a floral shop, but actually grow and put together. So
I'm excited as we continue on to learn about the flowers.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Oh yeah, so yeah, another huge thing is the soil.
What sort of like pH do you have going on?
What drainage level? Lots of cut flowers really need well
drained soil. That's huge for them, and then also the
climate North Dakota, you know, pretty notoriously cold.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
I would say short season.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yes, yeah, so yeah, choosing a flower in the first
place that can grow here is major. I have the
like USDA harding zone map for North Dakota mostly like
four and three zone is what we're looking at. And
then yeah, specifically in the Bismarck area, we are looking
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at like four A to four B. So those considerations
for that specific zone is what you would want to
be looking for kind of in our area.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
So that'd be for perennial flowers.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
M yes, yeah, annuals, you know, just one season and
then done. But perennials, yeah, I want to consider the
four A four B zone. And then yeah, more considerations.
We've got the bloom period. If you want to have
flowers blooming all season long, you've got to choose some
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different types, some that maybe bloom in the spring, some
more so in the summer, or some that more so
in the fall. Kind of just spread them out if
you want to have cut flowers all season long, or
you could do succession planting, which is like waiting a
week in between planting, so then you're staggering when the
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flowers bloom.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Yeah, they do that with sunflowers, Like cutting sunflowers, you
just you can either plant different varieties that have different
maturity dates like really early bloom and sunflower followed by
like those are the pro cut varieties, and then you
have like the like Vincent's Choice, Vincent's Fresh, it's like
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ten days later, so you can plant them, or you
just stay with the pro cut and plant on every
ten days so you always have something ready to go.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Mmm for sure.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
And then I have just what like kind of purpose
do you want for these flowers? In like a traditional
flower farm, they would just be doing like strict these
are only cut flowers. But if you in your backyard
want to do a pollinator garden with these flowers, or
if you want to use them for medicinal purposes, or
you want to have edible flowers, is like those are
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all different things. You can take an account when choosing
what flowers you actually want to have in your garden.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Yeah. I don't grow flowers to eat myself. We have
a thing called vegetables and grocery stores.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I was kind of wondering if she was talking about, like, hey,
wildlife plantings here.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
With the deer attract deer. Attract deer, No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I don't want to attract deer.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, that's actually getting into our next point. We've got
our challenges.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Yeah, the deer.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
You know, if you live maybe more out in the
country or on the edge of town, the deer or
the rabbits can kind of you know, get in there
and eat your flowers. So you know, if that's something
you notice you deal with, maybe want to be aware
of that, or other things like salt and drought or
I know, like at my parents' place, the basement floods
like every year or so, you know, we'd want to
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take into a consideration lots of water.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
So you know, you.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Also talked about raised bed so like again over where
Tom lives there is some salinity issues. So if you
want to get into cut flowers, you probably got to
do a raised bed in that option.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Yeah, get that, don't remind me. Yeah, there's actually a
lot of us here and draw Its a big issue
for the Bisman area very much. And so that that's
a that's that's a big consideration and so can be
can be an issue. And that's you know, if you
if you if you have a suspicion of it. Go
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get your soil tests and and then you can start
taking some action. That's right.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
All right. Now getting into kind of what makes flowers
good for arrangements, because some flowers are just better at
being cut flowers than others. First kind of point is
the structure. If you have longer stems, if you're not
low growing, if you're not hacked, those are better. The
longer stems are good for you have to cut cut
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flowers multiple times before they kind of end up in
the final arrangement. Those sorts of things. And then alongside that,
we've got visual appeal. Normally, you know, we're choosing cut
flowers because we like something about them. We like the bloom,
or we like the foliage, anything like that.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
And then we've also got longevity. It wouldn't be very
fun if you got a flower out of the ground
and then like the next day, all the petals were
drooping and falling off. So you want that base life
to kind of be extended longer than normal. And then
also compatibility the color, the size, the shape of the flowers,
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anything like that. You kind of want them to flow
well together, and that could have it a lot of
different ways. Basically, all flowers could be compatible with each other.
It's just what do.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
You like like for longevity. It's what why I have
silk flowers myself have a very long leg.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, yeah, the longest.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Just dust them off every now and then.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
You know a lot of people are moving to that
even in their outdoor setting, like buying the artificial flowers
to fill different containers. Even at I think it was
a Dakota garn Ex boy seeing a girl who had
the outdoor like they were for outdoor arrangements with artificial flowers.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah, we had that in our family. We had geraniums
that we just stuck them out to them.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I feel like in that area though, people have gotten
a lot better at making them very realistic.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Oh yeah, a lot better nowadays.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, so you could still do floral raging with silk flowers.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Ye go to a hobby lobby. They got like a
zillion of them to choose from, and yeah, people like that,
take one of this, one of this, one of this,
making the magic happen. That's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
That's the big thing to do with like wedding bouquets
these days is get like hobby lobby, make your own
wedding bouquet arrangement, and then you have it.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Forever, assuming the marriage last forever.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
That's yeah, probably burns a little easier to do.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
So, yeah, I didn't have that. I had a star
gazer lily. I remember that. That's what my wife had.
You know, all our flowers at the whole church cost
twelve dollars. How about that?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
How about that? Wow, that was a bargain. I married
in a developing country. There you go, that's what happened
to me. Twelve dollars. That's great. Okay, that is great, sidetrack, You're.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Good, all right, kind of. My next segment is the
best garden flowers for floral ranging. I kind of just
have some examples here. This isn't like an all inclusive list,
but these are some we commonly see annuals in our
area for cut flowers like Zinnias, cosmos, Dahlias, gladiolus, all
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of those definitely commonly seen being used for cut flowers.
And then we've got perennials. We've got iris, coral bells,
pe and e tulip, bbalm, all of those are pretty
commonly seen. Woody plants, We've got lilac hydrangea rose for scythia,
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and then foliage flowers, so not necessarily using them for
the flower themselves, but for the foliage, we've got hosta, ladies, mantle,
maiden grass.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
All of those those are great lists, great photos.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, so yeah, all of these should be able to
be grown in our area, whether annual or perennial. But yeah,
and then kind of getting more so into the preservation.
At this point, you put all this hard work into
growing these flowers, you maybe want them to stick around
for a while, So definitely, yeah, getting into some of
the things we can do to try and help that
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even before harvest. We've got what you got to consider
is the plant variety, environment and weather are kind of
just stable things that you can't necessarily control that much.
So you just got to be aware of that that
these can be like limiting factors for how long the
base life is going to be. Plant health, you want
them to be healthy in turgent turgid, meaning the cells
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are full of water in their firm so they're not
weak or floppy, fallen over. And then sanitation is huge.
You want clean buckets and tools, and then you want
sharp tools. It's very important when cutting cut flowers to
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make a clean cut and not crush the stem because
if you crush the stem, you're crushing the vascular tissue
and then the flower can't really take up any water
in the vase.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, good points.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Making you think over.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
There, Yeah, because I was thinking, like one type of
cut flower that sometimes uses they forest flowers like apricots
and even like forcythia and pussy willows. You cut them
when they're just budding out. And then I thought they talked.
They talked to me. You just smashed the ends with
(15:38):
a hammer. Oh I don't know why, just get out
your aggression, I guess, but uh, but they were talking
that way to maybe help them break the dormancy. But
in general, I agree clean cuts the way to go
shark through us. And also morning right, you got to
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do it in the morning, right, Yes, Yeah, it's important
because it's everything that it was all cool at night.
Everything's self turchid. What are the good tips you got
for us?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Perfect? Okay, moving into when you're actually harvesting. Harvest timing, Yeah,
like you said, mid morning is best. You want to
avoid the hottest part of the day and then with
some flowers when you cut them, some are going to
kind of keep opening up and some are going to
kind of just stop when you cut them. So a
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general rule that I saw was if it's like a
daisy type flower, you can cut it when it's in
like full bloom, and if it's more of like a
spike type like a gladiolus, you want to cut it
when it's like twenty five to fifty percent in bloom,
because then those florets will keep opening as it's it's
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in storage or in the vase. And then water, you
want to put it in water as quickly as possible
after her. And then cool storage is very important. You
want to keep it between anywhere between like thirty three
and sixty for either that long term or short term
storage would be good. And then a high relative humidity
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is just good for keeping the plants from drying out.
And then getting into when you're actually trying to arrange
the flowers, we've got sanitation once again very important. We're cutting,
we're using other tools very good to keep everything clean
so you're not introducing any bacteria. And then the water,
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you want to change the water regularly when they're in
the arrangements. If you see any like clouding that's definitely
a good sign that water needs to be changed. You
want to keep the foliage out of the water, so
before you even make the arrangement and kind of take
the leaves off of the stems and then using a
floral preservative is generally recommended, but normally only if it's.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Like the store bought kind.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Generally, it seems like if you try to make your own,
you might be doing more harm than good.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Like seven up or lemon juice. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I've heard people just say too, could I just put
some sugar in there?
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Yeah, and don't forget about the penny. I don't know
that it's got to get good.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Copper copper from the penny, huh.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Exactly, Lincoln's full of copper, and know it.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Just dissolves in water though, just.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
A little bit of copper, I guess. Or maybe the
dirt on the penny, maybe that's nutrients for the hours
there you go. I think the hunters general common of
just buy, don't do a homemade version is a good suggestion. Yeah,
but yeah, you go to the store, there's usually they
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give you a free floral preservative, right, because you already
paid for the flowers. You gotta got to ask some
of that too. M Yeah, that's good. Yeah, I think
how often I change? Really every day? Right, you gotta change,
and yeah, that's what every day I tried to do.
You need to clip off the bottom a stew.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
You're you're right on track with me. Yeah, cut flowers,
let's go. Yes, okay, angle too, Yeah, angle generally angle
cuts seem to be what's recommended, just so there's more
like surface area for the tissue to take up the water.
But yeah, recut the flowers basically anytime they come out
of the water, recut them before they go back in
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right away.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Sounds like I don't do anything right whenever I get flowers.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
I'm not changing flowers very often.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Not often.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Come on, sometimes, come on.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I get more from my friend than I do from chaining.
And that's okay, But yeah, I don't. I guess I'm
I'm not changing my water every day. I'm not recutting stems,
so you.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Got to Yeah. And also I always keep it out
of direct sunlight. Sh Yeah, yes, I.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Think it's in here at some point. Yeah, but yeah, no,
you're good. Yeah. So then my last point kind of
is just location kind of just like a bright area,
probably not direct sunlight cooler if you can, like you know,
maybe don't have it right next to the radiator. That
doesn't seem like a great location. And then just avoiding
ethylene because ethylene is just like a plant hormone given
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off by plants or fruit and it just yeah, maybe
avoid the bananas just because it'll help. It'll just accelerate
that blooming and all that.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Base life.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yeah. Yeah, this next part isn't quite silk flowers, but
if you wanted to dry the cut flo that's also
another option for a very long base life. But with this,
you gotta be careful to choose the right flowers because
some flowers don't dry well at all, so you want
to avoid fleshy, heavy high water content, or delicate flowers.
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Those could be things like pie andies. Maybe not a
great flower to try and dry. And then yeah, just
getting into maybe how you would do it a little bit.
You wanna harvest these more so in their prime because
when they start to dry, that's the stage of bloom
that they're going to stay at. You want to remove
the foliage, hang them in bundles upside down, and use
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a rubber band specifically because when they lose that water content,
they're gonna start to shrink and the rubber band will
constrict with them. And then yeah, store them in a warm, dry,
dark air circulated place and like three weeks later you'll
have some dried, dried flowers.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Perfect.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Warm dry And is it well lit area or does
that make a difference.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I don't think it wouldn't make that much of a difference. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I was told when I got married to put him
in the closet.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
O your wedding flowers.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yeah, and hit them with hairspray.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard that hairspray stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I don't have them anymore, but I mean that it's
not sad when they're crumbling and falling all over.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I don't need the mess.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Yeah, such a clean person.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah that's right.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
How about on your wedding cake? Writing groom on the
wedding cakes?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Still, I don't We didn't do that.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
We did like a difference. Yeah, we did something different,
but we did the whole like wait a year.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
And I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Recommend that to people. That's not delicious. I don't know
where that tradition came in, but I wouldn't follow it.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Live and learn.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Fair enough, good, okay, we'll keep trucking along.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
That's fun.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
That's okay, okay. So next, just kind of going how
long will cut flowers last? So in general, obviously it
depends on the species and the conditions that you put
them in, but for flesh flowers, it seems to be
between five to fourteen days. But this is also generally
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the numbers from store bought flowers, So if you were
getting flowers out of your garden, it might be longer
than this, just kind of depends. And then for dried
months to years, they can kind of last a very
long time until you get annoyed with them.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Yeah, especially with hairspray.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, say that.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I don't know the comment I would make, it like,
this is nothing against floral shops, but it seems like
if I get flowers from the grocery store or a
store up town, they seem to last longer than a
floral arrangement that I've been given. I don't know why,
I'm not doing anything different, but they just seem to
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hold their appeal a lot better.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
M interesting.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Yeah, I can't really agree with that, but.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
You know, maybe the people that are giving them to
me or doing the right cuts or something.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yeah, they're maybe they the people give you flowers. They
kept the flowers in the car for all day and
then they give them to you, and then they fall apart.
Quick's there's there's a lot of problems of things going on.
I think are florest shops. They're the experts. They experts,
especially for floral design. That's the thing I don't get.
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I don't know what to put next to what As
far as in the vase, I have a hard time
with that.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Well, you know, Hunter has a workshop tomorrow that she
just told me. There's an opening spot in case you want.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah, stuff on bye medial.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Class you want to I don't to be publicly humiliated.
Oh what about it? What are you going to talk
about this workshop?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, so I mean it's full, so it's not like
it's tomorrow and it's full, but you can talk about
what's happening.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Yeah, if you want, it's already there. You go.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Good job with it.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Retulations, I'm going to have to have a second one maybe.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I guess there was interesting.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
If there's high demand, maybe you can be first in line.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
There you go. I would like to learn how to
make that make a nice floral display. I would like
to learn that right now. I just my wife, my wife.
I just give it to my wife culture, I know,
that's uh. Just I like growing flowers, even on the farm.
I was kind of like a I had a flower garden.
I kind of like that. I loved because the annuals,
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you know, like like cosmos and they were so pretty
and zenias, wow, they're so And there's there's easy to
grow too. That's marigolds, those like the ones are mentioned,
those are so easy, Gladiola's anybody grow that. That's like it's, uh,
there's there's a lot of opportunity. And I like that.
(26:39):
I like those early to early to flower those are good.
But they add so much beauty to a garden. You know,
I don't care about those pollinators. Everybody cares about pollinators now.
I just want to look good. And if the pollinators come, okay,
they're welcome to they can come to. But they're just
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it's just so beauty fully grown.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
And I and when I cut a flower, my goal
is seven days. That's pretty good. That's my goal.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
More to talk about just a little bit.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
We kind of maybe talked about this a little bit.
But getting into myths, there's plenty of Yeah, yeah, I
should have researched that beforehand. We could have added that
to the list. But yeah, homemade flower food to extend
a baseline.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Oh, there's the pennies. Pennies sugar.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
It's listed first. It's listed first. It's it's pretty.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Big sugar, is what I've heard.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Yeah, I'm a Christmas trees got the same thing sugar
as aspring because they're sick. They just got chopped.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
F d A f d A studies aspired with flowers.
Does research on that?
Speaker 4 (27:56):
I don't think so, well, somebody did.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Somebody did.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
It's a myth. Now we know it's not true. Obviously
it's science based information.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
So okay, we'll let you actually talk here.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Thailand. We don't know about Thailand all but aspin don't
use probably not good.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Say conspy.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
So yeah, basically, the general idea is that all of
these might help bacteria develop instead of you know, boosting
the flowers themselves. So generally not maybe a great idea,
best to just use the store bod stuff. And then yeah,
we talked about this a little bit, but cut flowers
don't need direct sunlight. It'll cause them to bloom faster,
(28:52):
so indirect is better. And then this is one that
I've seen before is that you have to cut the
stems under water to prevent air bubbles. I generally think
this is kind of like a non issue, like you
could cut them underwater, that's not gonna hurt anything, but
you don't have to it.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Seems I think the kids, you just gotta get that
stem into the vase the water asap. That's the bottom line.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
So yeah, and then after all this, maybe I've inspired
you to have your own cut garden. After all this
myth talk and flower talk, So some cut flower gardening
steps kind of what would you want to some actionable
steps to kind of look going forward? Obviously, right now
it's July, so maybe you're not gonna plant anything. You know,
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the flowers there, yeah, get them in quick yesterday mm hmmm.
So yeah, just maybe start planning for the next season,
find that space, choose those flowers you want, get a
soil test so you can figure out pH nutrient levels,
and then start maybe preparing your garden area. Yeah, and
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then yeah, you can do some fall planting, you can
maybe do some spring planting, and then for watering. Generally,
recommended to do deep infrequent watering. That'll, you know, encourage
deeper root growth and try and stop some of those
weeds from growing. And then for pruning, I saw you
(30:26):
can do pinching can encourage more blooms. So that's kind
of just cutting off the main, main leader of the
flower and then more shoots should grow with more blooms.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
So well the bottom picture there, it looks like you
don't have much weeding to do.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, good, good good. I think these are all helpful. Hunter.
You got anything else to add on this? Nope, just
that's it for me. Well that's wonderful. Are you inspired?
Speaker 4 (30:58):
I am? I am? Uh, But there's no openings in
our workshops, so what can I do?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
It's a schedule one on one at the personal Yeah.
Well Tom grows sunflowers, so.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Yeah, I got some caringting right now.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
You could bring some sunflowers in and we could probably
go around and find some other things to add in.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
From I used to sell. I have sold cut flowers
at the farmer's market.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I've done that with the cucumbers and core.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Yeah. Yeah, we did it. Uh. I had a project
flowers for Africa, and I did it with a community local.
It was called the Lincoln Center in Kenosha, and we
grew flowers and arranged them and we sold them at
the market and we gave them money to support children
in Africa.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
That's wondering.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, but that was a well received project.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Yeah, that was good. It's good. It's a good thing.
But yeah, it's I like. I like cut flowers. I
love sun flowers and zenias. They're fun, the easy to grow.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah, can you do any of your glods this year?
I got glads planted.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
No, I gave them all way. No, I didn't have
any leftover. I rarely do well.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Be honest, I don't even know what colors are going
to come up that I put. I'm excited you had
fun colors.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Yeah, glad. They're fun to grow to. Their bulbs are
generally easy, like tuips. Have you ever forced tulips?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
I haven't.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
No, I've done that. That's fun. That's fun. We can
talk about that in a future episode.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, we're gonna start off with summer lawn care. We're
in July.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Today is cool, but it's been hot. It's been very hot.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Have you had I guess even Hunter, I probably haven't
checked in, but calls about lawns browning up.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Yet, No, but mine is. So that's just it's just
going to bed. It's just sleeping the summer.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yes' going dormance. Don't need to worry about that.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I had a call I think it not last week,
the week before that, somebody brown going dormance. So just
in general, like we talk all the time with lawn
care watering, you need one inch per week. Mother nature
has been helping us out greatly lately, so you probably
(33:24):
don't need that additional irrigation unless you're really trying to
keep that grass green.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
But long deep waterings.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Just like you said with the cut flowers. That's in
general again too, right, This is all stuff we've talked
about in the past, but maybe we got a new
viewer out there that hasn't jumped on any of those
past episodes. Generally we talk about morning is the best time.
I like to talk to people and say, let's make
sure we do that after the dew is gone, especially
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when we've had periods of high humidity and rain, just
because that is the time and perfect environment for different turf, grass,
fungus and disease to develop as well.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Well.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
How much is one inch.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
How much is one inch? Do you want to talk
about how people could figure that out?
Speaker 4 (34:13):
A viewer here? How do I know if I put
there's an inch on?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
So, if you got a sprinkler system, let's get some
flat bottom yep, just like that, get some Get some
flat bottom containers always talked about, like tuna cans or
just tupperware containers, and you're gonna set them out from
the sprik sprinkler, especially if you have zones and stuff.
You're gonna check out the different zones, run it like
(34:41):
you normally do. See how much water you're actually collecting
in those containers at a given time.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Then you're gonna have to perfect Thanks for letting me
know I can do that.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I know you can do that.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Okay, mowing have you been mowing frequently? Are you just
still bailing hay over there?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
It depends.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
I have to. I have some sad news to talk about,
because usually with my lawn, I can do about a
third of it a day, a third of it at
a time, A third a third of my lawn a day.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
By the time you're done with one third and you
get done with the whole lawn, you're back to square.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
But my son, who's much more energetic than I am.
He did the whole lawn and one day and my
old crepit lawnmower with a broken wheel and just just quit.
It's just it's gone. So I had to good new.
So I got new more. That's good news.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Bigger Nope, nope.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Riding nope, I thought about it. But you know, if
if it's just a walk behind, it's just kind of
like and good exercise, kind of good exercise. So that's
that's the way I'm going much cheaper. So yeah, So
that's that's my exciting news about my more. So that
(36:10):
was the last time that more.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Is it cutting just slick as ever now with a
new one.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
I haven't used it yet. Out my lawns turned brown
just in time.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
He said, thank you God, my prayer today. That's mowing
going on all right.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
So if you are out there mowing and stuff, recommend
it if you can tolerate that, keep it at about
three and a half to four inches tall. Of course,
don't bag those clippings. That's better, and those clippings can
give back a little bit of nitrogen to your lawn.
And then if you are cutting extremely short, that is
going to be stressful. We talked about drought earlier. In
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times of drought, that's going to be an issue. So
those are my couple tips on summer lawn care. Another
thing that's been going on pretty frequently we've been getting
calls is fire blight. So that affects anything in the
Rosea family, so Raspberry service, serviceberry, hawthorn apples.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Even Catoni aster. Tom, you sent these pictures to me.
What have we got here?
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Well, that's in Carrington and that was that's our hasscap
planting and so I just saw that yesterday.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
And it's nice close up.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
You see that's the textbook symptoms. You see what they
call the shepherd's crook. You see how it's kind of
and it's at the tip of the branch and it
looks torched. That's why it's called fireblight. And I just
took that and I said, wow, this is perfect symptom
of fireblight.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
So sad it is, so sad.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
I have not This is the first time though, I've
actually seen it on a halse cap.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
So well, there's not that many hasscaps out that.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
That is true as well.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
But you know, fire blake can also go on well
it's a number one killer of pairs, and it can
be on it can be on the pruna's family like cherries,
choke cherries. It can get that too. That's it's not
as common as the apple family. But yeah, it's bad.
You know, like kale makes the wound and then it's
(38:17):
a bacteria. Bacteria it needs a wound to enter. So
after a hailstorm is really when you get the fire
blake going.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Yeah, let's go a little more into detail. But here's
a nice picture too, example on an apple tree.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
This photo is actually from last year and stuff, this
isn't a this year photo. But what are symptoms Besides
what Tom kind of talked about.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Flowers can appear water soaked, they droop, they shrivel, turning
brown or black. Your leaves are gonna turn brown or
black and bend down in that hook shape, which we
call the shepherd's crook. And then your bark can also
be discolored and you can see physical oozing. So, like
Tom said, you know, as far as spreading insects, irrigation
(39:03):
infected tools. So if you're out there pruning one that
has it and you're not sterilizing in between cuts, that's.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Easy for it to spread. How does it survive?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
It's going to survive in those cankers on the trunk
or the branches. It multiplies in our spring during that warm,
wet weather, and bacteria seeps out of those natural openings
as well.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
So what do we do about it?
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Plant resistant varieties prune out the infection at least ten
inches below that canker. We want to Basically, when you
have fireblight, you want to keep it from going to
the main trunk and you kind of more of manage
it when you get it. Sterilize those pruners in between cuts.
And I know we've talked to in previous episodes there
(39:50):
is some pesticides kind of help prevent the spread of
it and stuff. So comments Tom, you look like you
got a.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Comment we well is there you're gonna talk more about
like the ugly stub technique and that stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I'll let you take it.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
Well. The first thing is like one way you spread
fire blight is through your pruners. So you have to
be very careful during the growing season pruning. And that's
why in most cases people just wait till after at
once winter comes. Then you're then you won't spread the
fire blight on your pruners during the dormant season. So
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and you got to go at least ten inches where
you see the symptoms, and much more is better. There's
no there's no effective spray that. Once you get it,
you have to you have to amputate it out. That's
the bottom line. And you can if you just got
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a little bit of it, you can you can cut it.
It's called the ugly stub. You can google that method.
You can punt it during the growing season and you
pun him back to a stub like it's got to
be able to said two three year old. You know,
a couple, a couple about a couple of inches at
least a full inch wide, two inches better, and leave
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a stub and then the fire blight bacterium will coalesce
in that stub and then you can pronount that stub
in the winter time. But if you're not sure, I
would just wait until winter and just try to prune
out and be very aggressive, and then you just gotta
pray Like that one half gap you showed there. I
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don't know if that guy is gonna make I would
I would wait till winter. I would pune that whole
thing down to the base and just see if it's
hopefully that bacterium didn't go all the way through. But
it's a it's a killer, yeah, very much. Forget about
strep to mice and for people, for common people. That's
for orchards, and right, that's there's no good spray for
(41:57):
that fire bit.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Gotta manage it.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Gotta imputated carefully.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
I'm gonna wrap up with controlling some weeds in our garden.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
So young weeds going on?
Speaker 4 (42:10):
You got it quite a collection, Yes, I've got some
of that. It's a cut flower that I'm growing for you.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Gonna have gloves putting this one in the buquet.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Huh see, that's what we call texture. It adds. Yeah,
of course, this is like the country flower of Scotland.
So that's those are my Scottish bouquets.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
There you go. How about this one?
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Oh, that's in case I get hungry in the garden.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Okay, so you're growing that for ediblel reasons, yes.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Not for cut flowers. The flowers are too small and
they don't dry well either. How about this, Well, it
was like grass to me.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
So that's not in the gardens.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Lot half of half, half of my yard looks like
that and half sweeds are you talking about? Okay, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Grassy weeds and oh yeah, yeah, this is this is
my number one enemy in my raised beds.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
I know what it is.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
So I will just say, like, oh, grass, grass number one.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Grass is number one. So what do we need to
do combat them? We need to attack them as soon
as they appear. Don't let them go to seed or flowers.
So like earlier, I went to Medora for a weekend
and I came back and.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
They were bad.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
I think it's I think I probably spent a good
hour with my garden troll digging out the grass. So
a garden home, a garden troll, those are going to
be your friends to really help you be successful in
combating them. Maulch is going to help greatly if you
can mulch in between rows, or if you do like
(43:57):
a no till approach with landscaping fab which I did
do that in my one garden bed.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Very few weeds that I have to deal with.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
And then I always get the question of like herbicide
right well as far as in a garden and even
in flower beds, ah, I would say this is kind
of more of like a I don't know, I guess
if you have a lot of time on your hands,
or maybe you want to just combat it earlier, but
you want to go ahead and do like a spot
(44:27):
spray a g life of sates. You don't have anything
out there that's gonna kill the weeds and not affect
surrounding plants if you get an accidental drift or spraying
on those.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
So, yeah, we've talked about in the past.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Sometimes people get out there with the paintbrush and paintbrush weeds.
I think the easier method for me is just to
go out and attack the grass full on with my
weapon of a garden trawl and dig it out and
make it a little sharp.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
That's right, Usually the best way to go for a
garden such a sharp you know, yes, And but there
are pre emergent swans for like for like pream for example,
and that can that might you might want to consider
that for your grass problem. Maybe, you know if annial grasses,
I think.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
I just got a whole variety feels good. It's like
a there's an exercise you talk about.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
Yeah, yeah, I got feel bind weeds might killer that guys.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
As it's kind of attractive.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
It's morning glory, but somehow it's just got a bad
reputation that it's undesirable. It's just not right.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Yeah, just like that this little hot that's right.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
And those golden dandelions. Yeah, so sparkling. Not a good
cut flower though, No, it willed that for a few hours.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
Okay, we're going to talk about fears flowers and all
vegetables and we'll see how far we get. Okay, here's
some of the fears or to talk without talk about
two common diseases on tomatoes. Almost every tomato vine gets
these every year, and now they're just starting to appear.
First one is early blight, and with that early bike
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you see in that brown lesion you can see the
rings on it. Yes, and in general yellowing. That's early
blight alternaria very common. There's another picture of it, kind
of big brown lesions. And then you got septoria leaf
bike these little tiny pinpricks that turn brownished burgundyish. So
(46:40):
to prevent them, you don't do overhead watering. This is evil.
These plants are very unhappy you're getting these leaves wet,
and that's how these tomato diseases get going. They gotta
have humidity, and so when you do overhead watering, especially
in the evening hours, you're just putting a perfect environment
(47:00):
to attract diseases. So don't do overhead watering. Plants don't
drink through their leaves. They like to drink through their
roots if they that's or their preference. So avoid overhead irrigation.
And then you irrigate in the morning, never at night,
and kind of like water in your long water deeply
but not frequently. The roots grow where the water is.
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If your water deep, the roots grow deep, and that's
what you want. And malting can help serve as a
barrier for some of these tomato diseases. That because the
diseases start at the soil. So if you have some
mults between your vine and the soil, that can serve
as a barrier. Okay, So for your tomato vines, get
them off the ground because the disease comes from the soil.
(47:44):
Avoid splashing the soil on the leaves. And a lot
of people prone off their lower tomato vine leaves if
the leaves touch the soil. And we can use protective
preventative funge sides and these Coralthalano is a long name,
but it's at every garden center. It's like vegetable fun
just side. That's that's what is common. And copper is
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an organic option. But the only work as preventatives. Once
you got it, you got it. You can't cure it.
So the tree is try to prevent it. Get the
plants off the ground, and be careful in you water
water infrequently and avoid soil splash. Okay, I got this.
Here's another fear. I got this question from somebody that
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got this ugly crud growing on their tomato vine. Have
you ever seen that? You? Guys? What is is it?
Cruddy brush?
Speaker 2 (48:41):
You don't need to be fearful.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
You scrub it off.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
You're not gonna scrub that off, are you?
Speaker 4 (48:49):
No? I don't my vines but they're clean. But no,
this is these are just tomatoes have the capacity to
form roots on their stems. So these are just we
call them adventitious roots. Or if you lay this on
the soil, they would pop out roots. So this is
just nature. It's nothing wrong, nothing harmful, So don't worry
(49:11):
about it. Don't worry about these. There's just potential roots.
It's not it's just nature. Okay, then I have I've
had two people this week complain that they're not getting
any fruits. This is on a zucchini and that was
a major problem for this person. Like zucchini. So I see,
you gotta see like you've got male and female flowers.
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So this is a male flower. It doesn't have a fruit.
Males do not produce fruits, only females do. So there
you see picture. You got a female cucumber and a
male cucumber flower. Females have the fruits. You gotta have both,
so check di vine's carefully. Sometimes there's a lot more
men out there than females. Especially females are more or
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sensitive environmental stress. There's a female cube, there's a female pumpkin.
So once you see, now, the other thing to keep
in mind is that like that female flower, she's only
receptive for one day. One day. You gotta have that
pollination occurred that day, and so you got to promote
a healthy, healthy garden where there's lots of b activity. Okay,
(50:24):
sometimes if it's really hot, the flower just ain't gonna
make it. And this said tomato flower, and this is
actually wind pollinated more than anything else. But if it's
in the nineties or high eighties, you're gonna have. It's
just not gonna set fruit. So you just wait till
the next flush of flowers. No worries.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
You didn't tell the zucchini lady not to worry. There'll
be plenty to be on your doorstep or something later.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
Said she's got to check to make sure there's male
and female flowers. Yeah, or you're gonna donate some tours.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
That just as the joke, right, too much as zucchini,
I know.
Speaker 4 (50:59):
So, but you know, uh, people, uh, we always want
we're always looking forward to those first fruits, and so
if you're not seeing fruit being set, it's a concern.
So just make sure you got male and female flowers
out there. Nothing, it's just kind of fun, okay. Sometimes
if you up with those flowers, you see evil beetles.
(51:20):
This is a striped cucumber beetle, and they're spotted ones too,
and they eat into the cucumber lee. You see that
those little holes they're doing, and they eat and they
spread bacteria and they poop bacteria. And that when I
see that ragged look, that is a problem with cucumber beetles,
(51:42):
and they spread bacteria. Will no cure for this. So
if you're seeing some wilting vines. That's back. You gotta
rip them out before that bacteria spreads from those beetles.
So what I do, Like, we grew a lot of
cucumbers on our farm, so as soon as we saw
the first beetles, we win after them, showing no mercy.
(52:03):
But to control it, you got to remove the infective
plants and then kill the cucumber beetles. They say you
should spray if you see twenty beatles per plant. I'm
more aggressive than that. I don't wait.
Speaker 1 (52:14):
It seems like a lot to see twenty on one plant.
Speaker 4 (52:18):
Yeah, what's a big vine?
Speaker 2 (52:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (52:20):
Well you know that's that's Some people just say, do
I really have to spray?
Speaker 3 (52:25):
You know?
Speaker 4 (52:26):
So it's economics, okay, But and how you feel about it?
Like for me, I don't want no darn beetles in
my yard. They're gonna spread disease. Yeah, I'm gonna kill it.
And so how I kill it? Pyreeth nim spin u
set and the pyreethroids. So pyreethrin. The nice thing about
pyrether nin and spino set are organic. Pyrethon is only
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good for one day. But you know, the nice thing
is that it won't harm bees in the next day,
so it's only active for one or two days. Neime
won't even affect bees, so that's good. So if they're blooming,
the plants are blooming, you might want to consider it
an organic type because you don't want to harm the
honey bees when you spray. And Spino said also, as
(53:09):
long as you it dries, the bees won't be affected
by it. Pyreth in short, it will kill bees. But
that's why you got to spray the evening hours when
the bees are not active. Pyreethroid's gotta be especially this
is what the hardcore stuff like seven or eight. That's
a synthetic pyreethro. You gotta be careful with that because
(53:30):
that's definitely bees are very sensitive to that, so be careful.
Only spray in the evening hours. But from my experience,
I use one quick spray and then my problem solved.
I get on the problem right away. Okay, spray in
the evening is very important. Okay. Last thing to talk
about is these beautiful flowers in my yard right now.
(53:52):
Just this is my fall picture here. You see how
the days are getting shorter. It's kind of sad and
or just be the great as in your garden. I
think maybe, or you.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
Know, I don't let them go to seeds, so who knows?
Speaker 4 (54:05):
That's right? And uh, well my law war broke, so
it's going to seed. So but this could use this
for a cut flour, right, we can try it, right
for sure? Yeah, there you go. Is it beautiful or
is it? Is it a weed or beautiful? I don't know.
But it's fall, that's why I show it. And the
days are getting short, so just in the brief minute
(54:26):
we have here, you can grow fall vegetables. Now is
it time to get serious about it? Okay? I grow
radishes in the spring, and then when I harvest them,
they're all bitter. That's because they're bulbing up when it's hot.
You want radishes to bulb up when it's cool. That's
when they're mild. That's when they're delicious. The best radishes
(54:48):
are grown in the fall. Same with turnips. Most people
don't grow turnips, they may not even like them. But
if you grow them in the fall, this is a
hot rive. Right. A Japanese turnip so fruity, absolutely delicious
and easy to grow. Thirty five days from seed, you
can harvest ease in the fall. They're so it's a
nice it's a nice vegetable to grow in the fall.
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Spinach taste great in the fall. There's even some funky
looking vegetables like Cole Robbie. Again, the vegetables, they will
bulb up when it's cool and mild, and they'll have
the best flavor, the fruitiest, the least starchy flavor if
they ripen when it's cool. So you gotta find when
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do we sow them. You got to find out the
last freeze frost eight for Bismarck, and Dave's Garden has
a website that you can do that. If you do
the if you look at the top green line, you
see fifty percent chance of a frost and the left
line says fall thirty two degrees. That's our first, that's
our that's our light frost. So it's about September twenty
fifth is when we get our first light frost in
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most years. Okay, And there's other resources the Midwest Reaching
Climbing Center or has this information. So then I go
to my Johnny Sea cattalg and I just type in
my date September twenty fifth, and that's when I'm going
to get my first life froth and then it tells
me my planting dates to spit them outh for me.
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And so here's an example, like I got time, that's
what you got to get moving on beats. And then yeah,
so like soon you got to get that Swiss chart
if you want. And then turnips, Cole, Robbie. And then
first week of August you want to plant your spinach
and any Asian greens they're fun to grow too, and
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radishes you plant them a little bit later because they're
definitely they are twenty five thirty day things. So red
rash is you can wait till mid August for that.
But again, don't despair. We still got a growing season,
still got some stuff we can sew, and but you
just gotta gotta make a plan, just like with the
followers you talked earlier, and make it happen. So that's
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what I got today, positivity at the end. We're gonna
I like it. You can still plant some stuff. And
again I'm really if you've never planted radishes in the fall,
you got there's so much better than they are. I
never grow them in the spring anymore. They taste terrible.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
I'm curious what you eat the turn ups with you
describe so fruity flavor, like you can.
Speaker 4 (57:18):
Make them like you slice them up and they can
you boil them, and you can eat the greens, the greens,
turn of greens. That's my that's my favorite green. Wow,
they're they're they're milder flavor than the than like those
mustard greens, most mustard greens. But and you stir fry them.
Stir fry the greens, and you can make soups out
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of the roots, yeah, or salad. You can cut them
just like radish when they're young. Yeah. That that white
Asian when hot carry is really good. Yeah, that's yeah,
it's part of a healthy diet.
Speaker 3 (57:57):
You know that.
Speaker 4 (57:59):
It is.
Speaker 2 (58:00):
I've never grown turn ups, So I got.
Speaker 4 (58:03):
Some seeds for you.
Speaker 1 (58:04):
Oh do you?
Speaker 4 (58:05):
I'll share someone if you promised to grow up.
Speaker 2 (58:08):
For my held out garden that I got going on?
Speaker 4 (58:13):
Really yeah? Sorry both.
Speaker 2 (58:15):
It doesn't look good.
Speaker 4 (58:17):
Okay, Well, today it was an exciting episode.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
We thank Hunter for joining us. Maybe we can get
her in on one more before the end of the internship.
Speaker 4 (58:27):
Well, seems like she's having all these sold out workshops,
so I think we should take advantage of.
Speaker 3 (58:32):
Oh, yeah, high demand.
Speaker 4 (58:34):
Yeah, there you go. So and maybe you can come
back next year for us, you know, be an intern
next year. You've got a career.
Speaker 3 (58:44):
You never know.
Speaker 4 (58:44):
Maybe I'll retire, you can take my job. Perfect, we'll
see what happens. Just kiddie people, just kidding, relaxed.
Speaker 1 (58:51):
Yeah, we don't need as going on, that's for sure. Well,
we just want to say thank you for joining us
today on our episode, and again a sincere thank you
to Hunter for joining us today as well. That was fun,
learned a lot and really enjoyed your presentation, and as always,
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we just hope that you will join us on our
future episodes.
Speaker 3 (59:18):
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Speaker 2 (59:31):
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Speaker 3 (59:41):
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Welcome to Dakota Growing. I'm Kelsey Deckert, your horticulture agent
here in Burley County, joined in the Radio Access studio
by my co host Tom Kobb NDSU Extension Horticulture Chris, and.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
We also have a guest today.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
We have NDSU Extension intern Hunter Gallinger. If I say
that right, we're just laughing at my pronunciation ahead of
time here.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Welcome Hunter, Thank you, yeah, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Of course, how's things going today for everybody?
Speaker 4 (00:54):
It's cooler, yep, cool, cloudy, yeah, but spent exciting week.
We had a big hailstorm, really had golf fall sized heil.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Did you get that at your place?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Definitely damage, No, but my wife was out on the
deck trying to take a video of it for like Facebook,
and I go, wow, this is going to be your
last video, Like, are you nuts? You're going to die
out here? You know? It's like because it was, it
was serious, it was wild, it was serious.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I had to drive in.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
That, Oh did you That's no fun.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
No vehicles got some damage to you.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
But we had our achievement days last week, so that
happened on our horse day and like horse day.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Ended at the perfect time.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
But Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I mean probably shouldn't. Probably should have ended twenty minute
twenty minutes earlier. At least then I wouldn't have had
to drove it. But what do you do do You
either outrun the storm or read it out.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I outran it.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yeah, try to, Yeah, try to get the radar, see
what's going on. And then if you're there, like sometimes
I go like under a bridge or next to a
tall trees that can shield me.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, in the country, there's not those options at all.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Kind of scary. Yeah, kind of just got a hope
that the clouds moved the other way.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, but it's been a wild year for weather. I
feel like, like I do not remember.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Growing up a couple of tornadoes and.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Seeing back to back weeks of severe weather. I finally
last week looked out and I was like, man, my
garden's not very nice. Neither are my flowers anymore.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
But.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Let them be.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Well, if you've got bad flowers, I think we have
somebody here who can help you with that. Hope, so
our flower expert for and yes you extension.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
She also told.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Me growing up that she was in FFA and did
floor culture, so she has that background.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
In her own floral the study of flowers.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Competed.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
So that's one of the competitions.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Oh yeah, yeah. If anybody needs like a corsage or
a boot near Oh really, yeah, I can make one.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Is that your side business? It should? It should advertiseing.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
That was stressful was high school corsages. I remember those
two so shy. Oh my gosh, that was so stressful.
Oh yeah, what color is your dress? Blah?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Oh gosh, glad You're way past that point.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Yeah. Yeah, I just too shy. That's just too shy.
That was just it's my fault. I should have just
been stronger.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
You live and learn.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I'm just going to go I ask her out. Let's
just go for it, not you know, scared.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Should we get on the topics of fort Should we
talk about Dakota growing?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Let's talk about flowers?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
All right?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
So Hunter, you're gonna start us off today, and what
are you going to be talking about today for us?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Okay, yeah, so today I'll kind of be discussing cut flowers,
gardening and then also preserving them.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
So yeah, it's start. I'm ready and happy to learn.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah. So yeah, just getting into it a little bit.
Considerations for flower growing. There's lots of different things that
you got to take into account, like before you put
any plants in the ground, So cut flowers aren't really
any different. So location is definitely one of them. Are
you gonna do raised beds? Are you going to do
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in the ground? What sort of space do you have?
Lots of cut flowers also really need full sun, so
kind of like in your yard, looking looking around seeing
where is that full sun location? And then also supports
many cut flowers need like a trellis or support system,
especially when they start getting taller, they want to flop down.
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Gotta discourage that, so some sort of support system for them.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I think this is a good topic too, just because
like today, especially locally, there is a lot of cut
flower growers.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah, and I think a lot of people don't realize
how beautiful bouquets you can get and not out of
a floral shop, but actually grow and put together. So
I'm excited as we continue on to learn about the flowers.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Oh yeah, so yeah, another huge thing is the soil.
What sort of like pH do you have going on?
What drainage level? Lots of cut flowers really need well
drained soil. That's huge for them, and then also the
climate North Dakota, you know, pretty notoriously cold.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
I would say short season.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Yes, yeah, so yeah, choosing a flower in the first
place that can grow here is major. I have the
like USDA harding zone map for North Dakota mostly like
four and three zone is what we're looking at. And
then yeah, specifically in the Bismarck area, we are looking
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at like four A to four B. So those considerations
for that specific zone is what you would want to
be looking for kind of in our area.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
So that'd be for perennial flowers.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
M yes, yeah, annuals, you know, just one season and
then done. But perennials, yeah, I want to consider the
four A four B zone. And then yeah, more considerations.
We've got the bloom period. If you want to have
flowers blooming all season long, you've got to choose some
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different types, some that maybe bloom in the spring, some
more so in the summer, or some that more so
in the fall. Kind of just spread them out if
you want to have cut flowers all season long, or
you could do succession planting, which is like waiting a
week in between planting, so then you're staggering when the
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flowers bloom.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Yeah, they do that with sunflowers, Like cutting sunflowers, you
just you can either plant different varieties that have different
maturity dates like really early bloom and sunflower followed by
like those are the pro cut varieties, and then you
have like the like Vincent's Choice, Vincent's Fresh, it's like
(07:30):
ten days later, so you can plant them, or you
just stay with the pro cut and plant on every
ten days so you always have something ready to go.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Mmm for sure.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
And then I have just what like kind of purpose
do you want for these flowers? In like a traditional
flower farm, they would just be doing like strict these
are only cut flowers. But if you in your backyard
want to do a pollinator garden with these flowers, or
if you want to use them for medicinal purposes, or
you want to have edible flowers, is like those are
(08:01):
all different things. You can take an account when choosing
what flowers you actually want to have in your garden.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Yeah. I don't grow flowers to eat myself. We have
a thing called vegetables and grocery stores.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
I was kind of wondering if she was talking about, like, hey,
wildlife plantings here.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
With the deer attract deer. Attract deer, No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I don't want to attract deer.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, that's actually getting into our next point. We've got
our challenges.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Yeah, the deer.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
You know, if you live maybe more out in the
country or on the edge of town, the deer or
the rabbits can kind of you know, get in there
and eat your flowers. So you know, if that's something
you notice you deal with, maybe want to be aware
of that, or other things like salt and drought or
I know, like at my parents' place, the basement floods
like every year or so, you know, we'd want to
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take into a consideration lots of water.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
So you know, you.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Also talked about raised bed so like again over where
Tom lives there is some salinity issues. So if you
want to get into cut flowers, you probably got to
do a raised bed in that option.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Yeah, get that, don't remind me. Yeah, there's actually a
lot of us here and draw Its a big issue
for the Bisman area very much. And so that that's
a that's that's a big consideration and so can be
can be an issue. And that's you know, if you
if you if you have a suspicion of it. Go
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get your soil tests and and then you can start
taking some action. That's right.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
All right. Now getting into kind of what makes flowers
good for arrangements, because some flowers are just better at
being cut flowers than others. First kind of point is
the structure. If you have longer stems, if you're not
low growing, if you're not hacked, those are better. The
longer stems are good for you have to cut cut
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flowers multiple times before they kind of end up in
the final arrangement. Those sorts of things. And then alongside that,
we've got visual appeal. Normally, you know, we're choosing cut
flowers because we like something about them. We like the bloom,
or we like the foliage, anything like that.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
And then we've also got longevity. It wouldn't be very
fun if you got a flower out of the ground
and then like the next day, all the petals were
drooping and falling off. So you want that base life
to kind of be extended longer than normal. And then
also compatibility the color, the size, the shape of the flowers,
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anything like that. You kind of want them to flow
well together, and that could have it a lot of
different ways. Basically, all flowers could be compatible with each other.
It's just what do.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
You like like for longevity. It's what why I have
silk flowers myself have a very long leg.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, yeah, the longest.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Just dust them off every now and then.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
You know a lot of people are moving to that
even in their outdoor setting, like buying the artificial flowers
to fill different containers. Even at I think it was
a Dakota garn Ex boy seeing a girl who had
the outdoor like they were for outdoor arrangements with artificial flowers.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah, we had that in our family. We had geraniums
that we just stuck them out to them.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I feel like in that area though, people have gotten
a lot better at making them very realistic.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Oh yeah, a lot better nowadays.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, so you could still do floral raging with silk flowers.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Ye go to a hobby lobby. They got like a
zillion of them to choose from, and yeah, people like that,
take one of this, one of this, one of this,
making the magic happen. That's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
That's the big thing to do with like wedding bouquets
these days is get like hobby lobby, make your own
wedding bouquet arrangement, and then you have it.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Forever, assuming the marriage last forever.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
That's yeah, probably burns a little easier to do.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
So, yeah, I didn't have that. I had a star
gazer lily. I remember that. That's what my wife had.
You know, all our flowers at the whole church cost
twelve dollars. How about that?
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
How about that? Wow, that was a bargain. I married
in a developing country. There you go, that's what happened
to me. Twelve dollars. That's great. Okay, that is great, sidetrack, You're.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Good, all right, kind of. My next segment is the
best garden flowers for floral ranging. I kind of just
have some examples here. This isn't like an all inclusive list,
but these are some we commonly see annuals in our
area for cut flowers like Zinnias, cosmos, Dahlias, gladiolus, all
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of those definitely commonly seen being used for cut flowers.
And then we've got perennials. We've got iris, coral bells,
pe and e tulip, bbalm, all of those are pretty
commonly seen. Woody plants, We've got lilac hydrangea rose for scythia,
(13:41):
and then foliage flowers, so not necessarily using them for
the flower themselves, but for the foliage, we've got hosta, ladies, mantle,
maiden grass.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
All of those those are great lists, great photos.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yeah, so yeah, all of these should be able to
be grown in our area, whether annual or perennial. But yeah,
and then kind of getting more so into the preservation.
At this point, you put all this hard work into
growing these flowers, you maybe want them to stick around
for a while, So definitely, yeah, getting into some of
the things we can do to try and help that
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even before harvest. We've got what you got to consider
is the plant variety, environment and weather are kind of
just stable things that you can't necessarily control that much.
So you just got to be aware of that that
these can be like limiting factors for how long the
base life is going to be. Plant health, you want
them to be healthy in turgent turgid, meaning the cells
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are full of water in their firm so they're not
weak or floppy, fallen over. And then sanitation is huge.
You want clean buckets and tools, and then you want
sharp tools. It's very important when cutting cut flowers to
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make a clean cut and not crush the stem because
if you crush the stem, you're crushing the vascular tissue
and then the flower can't really take up any water
in the vase.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, good points.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Making you think over.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
There, Yeah, because I was thinking, like one type of
cut flower that sometimes uses they forest flowers like apricots
and even like forcythia and pussy willows. You cut them
when they're just budding out. And then I thought they talked.
They talked to me. You just smashed the ends with
(15:38):
a hammer. Oh I don't know why, just get out
your aggression, I guess, but uh, but they were talking
that way to maybe help them break the dormancy. But
in general, I agree clean cuts the way to go
shark through us. And also morning right, you got to
(16:00):
do it in the morning, right, Yes, Yeah, it's important
because it's everything that it was all cool at night.
Everything's self turchid. What are the good tips you got
for us?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Perfect? Okay, moving into when you're actually harvesting. Harvest timing, Yeah,
like you said, mid morning is best. You want to
avoid the hottest part of the day and then with
some flowers when you cut them, some are going to
kind of keep opening up and some are going to
kind of just stop when you cut them. So a
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general rule that I saw was if it's like a
daisy type flower, you can cut it when it's in
like full bloom, and if it's more of like a
spike type like a gladiolus, you want to cut it
when it's like twenty five to fifty percent in bloom,
because then those florets will keep opening as it's it's
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in storage or in the vase. And then water, you
want to put it in water as quickly as possible
after her. And then cool storage is very important. You
want to keep it between anywhere between like thirty three
and sixty for either that long term or short term
storage would be good. And then a high relative humidity
(17:16):
is just good for keeping the plants from drying out.
And then getting into when you're actually trying to arrange
the flowers, we've got sanitation once again very important. We're cutting,
we're using other tools very good to keep everything clean
so you're not introducing any bacteria. And then the water,
(17:39):
you want to change the water regularly when they're in
the arrangements. If you see any like clouding that's definitely
a good sign that water needs to be changed. You
want to keep the foliage out of the water, so
before you even make the arrangement and kind of take
the leaves off of the stems and then using a
floral preservative is generally recommended, but normally only if it's.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Like the store bought kind.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Generally, it seems like if you try to make your own,
you might be doing more harm than good.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Like seven up or lemon juice. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I've heard people just say too, could I just put
some sugar in there?
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Yeah, and don't forget about the penny. I don't know
that it's got to get good.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Copper copper from the penny, huh.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Exactly, Lincoln's full of copper, and know it.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Just dissolves in water though, just.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
A little bit of copper, I guess. Or maybe the
dirt on the penny, maybe that's nutrients for the hours
there you go. I think the hunters general common of
just buy, don't do a homemade version is a good suggestion. Yeah,
but yeah, you go to the store, there's usually they
(18:54):
give you a free floral preservative, right, because you already
paid for the flowers. You gotta got to ask some
of that too. M Yeah, that's good. Yeah, I think
how often I change? Really every day? Right, you gotta change,
and yeah, that's what every day I tried to do.
You need to clip off the bottom a stew.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
You're you're right on track with me. Yeah, cut flowers,
let's go. Yes, okay, angle too, Yeah, angle generally angle
cuts seem to be what's recommended, just so there's more
like surface area for the tissue to take up the water.
But yeah, recut the flowers basically anytime they come out
of the water, recut them before they go back in
(19:37):
right away.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Yeah, makes sense.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Sounds like I don't do anything right whenever I get flowers.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
I'm not changing flowers very often.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Not often.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Come on, sometimes, come on.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I get more from my friend than I do from chaining.
And that's okay, But yeah, I don't. I guess I'm
I'm not changing my water every day. I'm not recutting stems,
so you.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Got to Yeah. And also I always keep it out
of direct sunlight. Sh Yeah, yes, I.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Think it's in here at some point. Yeah, but yeah, no,
you're good. Yeah. So then my last point kind of
is just location kind of just like a bright area,
probably not direct sunlight cooler if you can, like you know,
maybe don't have it right next to the radiator. That
doesn't seem like a great location. And then just avoiding
ethylene because ethylene is just like a plant hormone given
(20:37):
off by plants or fruit and it just yeah, maybe
avoid the bananas just because it'll help. It'll just accelerate
that blooming and all that.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Base life.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yeah. Yeah, this next part isn't quite silk flowers, but
if you wanted to dry the cut flo that's also
another option for a very long base life. But with this,
you gotta be careful to choose the right flowers because
some flowers don't dry well at all, so you want
to avoid fleshy, heavy high water content, or delicate flowers.
(21:18):
Those could be things like pie andies. Maybe not a
great flower to try and dry. And then yeah, just
getting into maybe how you would do it a little bit.
You wanna harvest these more so in their prime because
when they start to dry, that's the stage of bloom
that they're going to stay at. You want to remove
the foliage, hang them in bundles upside down, and use
(21:40):
a rubber band specifically because when they lose that water content,
they're gonna start to shrink and the rubber band will
constrict with them. And then yeah, store them in a warm, dry,
dark air circulated place and like three weeks later you'll
have some dried, dried flowers.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Perfect.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Warm dry And is it well lit area or does
that make a difference.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I don't think it wouldn't make that much of a difference. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I was told when I got married to put him
in the closet.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
O your wedding flowers.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yeah, and hit them with hairspray.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard that hairspray stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
I don't have them anymore, but I mean that it's
not sad when they're crumbling and falling all over.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I don't need the mess.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Yeah, such a clean person.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah that's right.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
How about on your wedding cake? Writing groom on the
wedding cakes?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Still, I don't We didn't do that.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
We did like a difference. Yeah, we did something different,
but we did the whole like wait a year.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
And I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Recommend that to people. That's not delicious. I don't know
where that tradition came in, but I wouldn't follow it.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Live and learn.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Fair enough, good, okay, we'll keep trucking along.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
That's fun.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
That's okay, okay. So next, just kind of going how
long will cut flowers last? So in general, obviously it
depends on the species and the conditions that you put
them in, but for flesh flowers, it seems to be
between five to fourteen days. But this is also generally
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the numbers from store bought flowers, So if you were
getting flowers out of your garden, it might be longer
than this, just kind of depends. And then for dried
months to years, they can kind of last a very
long time until you get annoyed with them.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Yeah, especially with hairspray.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, say that.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I don't know the comment I would make, it like,
this is nothing against floral shops, but it seems like
if I get flowers from the grocery store or a
store up town, they seem to last longer than a
floral arrangement that I've been given. I don't know why,
I'm not doing anything different, but they just seem to
(24:19):
hold their appeal a lot better.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
M interesting.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Yeah, I can't really agree with that, but.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
You know, maybe the people that are giving them to
me or doing the right cuts or something.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yeah, they're maybe they the people give you flowers. They
kept the flowers in the car for all day and
then they give them to you, and then they fall apart.
Quick's there's there's a lot of problems of things going on.
I think are florest shops. They're the experts. They experts,
especially for floral design. That's the thing I don't get.
(24:59):
I don't know what to put next to what As
far as in the vase, I have a hard time
with that.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Well, you know, Hunter has a workshop tomorrow that she
just told me. There's an opening spot in case you want.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah, stuff on bye medial.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Class you want to I don't to be publicly humiliated.
Oh what about it? What are you going to talk
about this workshop?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, so I mean it's full, so it's not like
it's tomorrow and it's full, but you can talk about
what's happening.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Yeah, if you want, it's already there. You go.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Good job with it.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Retulations, I'm going to have to have a second one maybe.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I guess there was interesting.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
If there's high demand, maybe you can be first in line.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
There you go. I would like to learn how to
make that make a nice floral display. I would like
to learn that right now. I just my wife, my wife.
I just give it to my wife culture, I know,
that's uh. Just I like growing flowers, even on the farm.
I was kind of like a I had a flower garden.
I kind of like that. I loved because the annuals,
(26:19):
you know, like like cosmos and they were so pretty
and zenias, wow, they're so And there's there's easy to
grow too. That's marigolds, those like the ones are mentioned,
those are so easy, Gladiola's anybody grow that. That's like it's, uh,
there's there's a lot of opportunity. And I like that.
(26:39):
I like those early to early to flower those are good.
But they add so much beauty to a garden. You know,
I don't care about those pollinators. Everybody cares about pollinators now.
I just want to look good. And if the pollinators come, okay,
they're welcome to they can come to. But they're just
(26:59):
it's just so beauty fully grown.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
And I and when I cut a flower, my goal
is seven days. That's pretty good. That's my goal.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
More to talk about just a little bit.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
We kind of maybe talked about this a little bit.
But getting into myths, there's plenty of Yeah, yeah, I
should have researched that beforehand. We could have added that
to the list. But yeah, homemade flower food to extend
a baseline.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Oh, there's the pennies. Pennies sugar.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
It's listed first. It's listed first. It's it's pretty.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Big sugar, is what I've heard.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Yeah, I'm a Christmas trees got the same thing sugar
as aspring because they're sick. They just got chopped.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
F d A f d A studies aspired with flowers.
Does research on that?
Speaker 4 (27:56):
I don't think so, well, somebody did.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Somebody did.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
It's a myth. Now we know it's not true. Obviously
it's science based information.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
So okay, we'll let you actually talk here.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Thailand. We don't know about Thailand all but aspin don't
use probably not good.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Say conspy.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
So yeah, basically, the general idea is that all of
these might help bacteria develop instead of you know, boosting
the flowers themselves. So generally not maybe a great idea,
best to just use the store bod stuff. And then yeah,
we talked about this a little bit, but cut flowers
don't need direct sunlight. It'll cause them to bloom faster,
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so indirect is better. And then this is one that
I've seen before is that you have to cut the
stems under water to prevent air bubbles. I generally think
this is kind of like a non issue, like you
could cut them underwater, that's not gonna hurt anything, but
you don't have to it.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Seems I think the kids, you just gotta get that
stem into the vase the water asap. That's the bottom line.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
So yeah, and then after all this, maybe I've inspired
you to have your own cut garden. After all this
myth talk and flower talk, So some cut flower gardening
steps kind of what would you want to some actionable
steps to kind of look going forward? Obviously, right now
it's July, so maybe you're not gonna plant anything. You know,
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the flowers there, yeah, get them in quick yesterday mm hmmm.
So yeah, just maybe start planning for the next season,
find that space, choose those flowers you want, get a
soil test so you can figure out pH nutrient levels,
and then start maybe preparing your garden area. Yeah, and
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then yeah, you can do some fall planting, you can
maybe do some spring planting, and then for watering. Generally,
recommended to do deep infrequent watering. That'll, you know, encourage
deeper root growth and try and stop some of those
weeds from growing. And then for pruning, I saw you
(30:26):
can do pinching can encourage more blooms. So that's kind
of just cutting off the main, main leader of the
flower and then more shoots should grow with more blooms.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
So well the bottom picture there, it looks like you
don't have much weeding to do.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, good, good good. I think these are all helpful. Hunter.
You got anything else to add on this? Nope, just
that's it for me. Well that's wonderful. Are you inspired?
Speaker 4 (30:58):
I am? I am? Uh, But there's no openings in
our workshops, so what can I do?
Speaker 2 (31:04):
It's a schedule one on one at the personal Yeah.
Well Tom grows sunflowers, so.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Yeah, I got some caringting right now.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
You could bring some sunflowers in and we could probably
go around and find some other things to add in.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
From I used to sell. I have sold cut flowers
at the farmer's market.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I've done that with the cucumbers and core.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Yeah. Yeah, we did it. Uh. I had a project
flowers for Africa, and I did it with a community local.
It was called the Lincoln Center in Kenosha, and we
grew flowers and arranged them and we sold them at
the market and we gave them money to support children
in Africa.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
That's wondering.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, but that was a well received project.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Yeah, that was good. It's good. It's a good thing.
But yeah, it's I like. I like cut flowers. I
love sun flowers and zenias. They're fun, the easy to grow.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah, can you do any of your glods this year?
I got glads planted.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
No, I gave them all way. No, I didn't have
any leftover. I rarely do well.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Be honest, I don't even know what colors are going
to come up that I put. I'm excited you had
fun colors.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Yeah, glad. They're fun to grow to. Their bulbs are
generally easy, like tuips. Have you ever forced tulips?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
I haven't.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
No, I've done that. That's fun. That's fun. We can
talk about that in a future episode.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, we're gonna start off with summer lawn care. We're
in July.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Today is cool, but it's been hot. It's been very hot.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Have you had I guess even Hunter, I probably haven't
checked in, but calls about lawns browning up.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Yet, No, but mine is. So that's just it's just
going to bed. It's just sleeping the summer.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yes' going dormance. Don't need to worry about that.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I had a call I think it not last week,
the week before that, somebody brown going dormance. So just
in general, like we talk all the time with lawn
care watering, you need one inch per week. Mother nature
has been helping us out greatly lately, so you probably
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don't need that additional irrigation unless you're really trying to
keep that grass green.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
But long deep waterings.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Just like you said with the cut flowers. That's in
general again too, right, This is all stuff we've talked
about in the past, but maybe we got a new
viewer out there that hasn't jumped on any of those
past episodes. Generally we talk about morning is the best time.
I like to talk to people and say, let's make
sure we do that after the dew is gone, especially
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when we've had periods of high humidity and rain, just
because that is the time and perfect environment for different turf, grass,
fungus and disease to develop as well.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Well.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
How much is one inch.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
How much is one inch? Do you want to talk
about how people could figure that out?
Speaker 4 (34:13):
A viewer here? How do I know if I put
there's an inch on?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
So, if you got a sprinkler system, let's get some
flat bottom yep, just like that, get some Get some
flat bottom containers always talked about, like tuna cans or
just tupperware containers, and you're gonna set them out from
the sprik sprinkler, especially if you have zones and stuff.
You're gonna check out the different zones, run it like
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you normally do. See how much water you're actually collecting
in those containers at a given time.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
Then you're gonna have to perfect Thanks for letting me
know I can do that.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I know you can do that.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Okay, mowing have you been mowing frequently? Are you just
still bailing hay over there?
Speaker 2 (35:02):
It depends.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
I have to. I have some sad news to talk about,
because usually with my lawn, I can do about a
third of it a day, a third of it at
a time, A third a third of my lawn a day.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
By the time you're done with one third and you
get done with the whole lawn, you're back to square.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
But my son, who's much more energetic than I am.
He did the whole lawn and one day and my
old crepit lawnmower with a broken wheel and just just quit.
It's just it's gone. So I had to good new.
So I got new more. That's good news.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Bigger Nope, nope.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Riding nope, I thought about it. But you know, if
if it's just a walk behind, it's just kind of
like and good exercise, kind of good exercise. So that's
that's the way I'm going much cheaper. So yeah, So
that's that's my exciting news about my more. So that
(36:10):
was the last time that more.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Is it cutting just slick as ever now with a
new one.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
I haven't used it yet. Out my lawns turned brown
just in time.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
He said, thank you God, my prayer today. That's mowing
going on all right.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
So if you are out there mowing and stuff, recommend
it if you can tolerate that, keep it at about
three and a half to four inches tall. Of course,
don't bag those clippings. That's better, and those clippings can
give back a little bit of nitrogen to your lawn.
And then if you are cutting extremely short, that is
going to be stressful. We talked about drought earlier. In
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times of drought, that's going to be an issue. So
those are my couple tips on summer lawn care. Another
thing that's been going on pretty frequently we've been getting
calls is fire blight. So that affects anything in the
Rosea family, so Raspberry service, serviceberry, hawthorn apples.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Even Catoni aster. Tom, you sent these pictures to me.
What have we got here?
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Well, that's in Carrington and that was that's our hasscap
planting and so I just saw that yesterday.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
And it's nice close up.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
You see that's the textbook symptoms. You see what they
call the shepherd's crook. You see how it's kind of
and it's at the tip of the branch and it
looks torched. That's why it's called fireblight. And I just
took that and I said, wow, this is perfect symptom
of fireblight.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
So sad it is, so sad.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
I have not This is the first time though, I've
actually seen it on a halse cap.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
So well, there's not that many hasscaps out that.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
That is true as well.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
But you know, fire blake can also go on well
it's a number one killer of pairs, and it can
be on it can be on the pruna's family like cherries,
choke cherries. It can get that too. That's it's not
as common as the apple family. But yeah, it's bad.
You know, like kale makes the wound and then it's
(38:17):
a bacteria. Bacteria it needs a wound to enter. So
after a hailstorm is really when you get the fire
blake going.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
Yeah, let's go a little more into detail. But here's
a nice picture too, example on an apple tree.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
This photo is actually from last year and stuff, this
isn't a this year photo. But what are symptoms Besides
what Tom kind of talked about.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Flowers can appear water soaked, they droop, they shrivel, turning
brown or black. Your leaves are gonna turn brown or
black and bend down in that hook shape, which we
call the shepherd's crook. And then your bark can also
be discolored and you can see physical oozing. So, like
Tom said, you know, as far as spreading insects, irrigation
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infected tools. So if you're out there pruning one that
has it and you're not sterilizing in between cuts, that's.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Easy for it to spread. How does it survive?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
It's going to survive in those cankers on the trunk
or the branches. It multiplies in our spring during that warm,
wet weather, and bacteria seeps out of those natural openings
as well.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
So what do we do about it?
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Plant resistant varieties prune out the infection at least ten
inches below that canker. We want to Basically, when you
have fireblight, you want to keep it from going to
the main trunk and you kind of more of manage
it when you get it. Sterilize those pruners in between cuts.
And I know we've talked to in previous episodes there
(39:50):
is some pesticides kind of help prevent the spread of
it and stuff. So comments Tom, you look like you
got a.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Comment we well is there you're gonna talk more about
like the ugly stub technique and that stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
I'll let you take it.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
Well. The first thing is like one way you spread
fire blight is through your pruners. So you have to
be very careful during the growing season pruning. And that's
why in most cases people just wait till after at
once winter comes. Then you're then you won't spread the
fire blight on your pruners during the dormant season. So
(40:32):
and you got to go at least ten inches where
you see the symptoms, and much more is better. There's
no there's no effective spray that. Once you get it,
you have to you have to amputate it out. That's
the bottom line. And you can if you just got
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a little bit of it, you can you can cut it.
It's called the ugly stub. You can google that method.
You can punt it during the growing season and you
pun him back to a stub like it's got to
be able to said two three year old. You know,
a couple, a couple about a couple of inches at
least a full inch wide, two inches better, and leave
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a stub and then the fire blight bacterium will coalesce
in that stub and then you can pronount that stub
in the winter time. But if you're not sure, I
would just wait until winter and just try to prune
out and be very aggressive, and then you just gotta
pray Like that one half gap you showed there. I
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don't know if that guy is gonna make I would
I would wait till winter. I would pune that whole
thing down to the base and just see if it's
hopefully that bacterium didn't go all the way through. But
it's a it's a killer, yeah, very much. Forget about
strep to mice and for people, for common people. That's
for orchards, and right, that's there's no good spray for
(41:57):
that fire bit.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
Gotta manage it.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Gotta imputated carefully.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
I'm gonna wrap up with controlling some weeds in our garden.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
So young weeds going on?
Speaker 4 (42:10):
You got it quite a collection, Yes, I've got some
of that. It's a cut flower that I'm growing for you.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Gonna have gloves putting this one in the buquet.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Huh see, that's what we call texture. It adds. Yeah,
of course, this is like the country flower of Scotland.
So that's those are my Scottish bouquets.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
There you go. How about this one?
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Oh, that's in case I get hungry in the garden.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Okay, so you're growing that for ediblel reasons, yes.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Not for cut flowers. The flowers are too small and
they don't dry well either. How about this, Well, it
was like grass to me.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
So that's not in the gardens.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Lot half of half, half of my yard looks like
that and half sweeds are you talking about? Okay, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Grassy weeds and oh yeah, yeah, this is this is
my number one enemy in my raised beds.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
I know what it is.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
So I will just say, like, oh, grass, grass number one.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Grass is number one. So what do we need to
do combat them? We need to attack them as soon
as they appear. Don't let them go to seed or flowers.
So like earlier, I went to Medora for a weekend
and I came back and.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
They were bad.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
I think it's I think I probably spent a good
hour with my garden troll digging out the grass. So
a garden home, a garden troll, those are going to
be your friends to really help you be successful in
combating them. Maulch is going to help greatly if you
can mulch in between rows, or if you do like
(43:57):
a no till approach with landscaping fab which I did
do that in my one garden bed.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Very few weeds that I have to deal with.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
And then I always get the question of like herbicide
right well as far as in a garden and even
in flower beds, ah, I would say this is kind
of more of like a I don't know, I guess
if you have a lot of time on your hands,
or maybe you want to just combat it earlier, but
you want to go ahead and do like a spot
(44:27):
spray a g life of sates. You don't have anything
out there that's gonna kill the weeds and not affect
surrounding plants if you get an accidental drift or spraying
on those.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
So, yeah, we've talked about in the past.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Sometimes people get out there with the paintbrush and paintbrush weeds.
I think the easier method for me is just to
go out and attack the grass full on with my
weapon of a garden trawl and dig it out and
make it a little sharp.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
That's right, Usually the best way to go for a
garden such a sharp you know, yes, And but there
are pre emergent swans for like for like pream for example,
and that can that might you might want to consider
that for your grass problem. Maybe, you know if annial grasses,
I think.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
I just got a whole variety feels good. It's like
a there's an exercise you talk about.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
Yeah, yeah, I got feel bind weeds might killer that guys.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
As it's kind of attractive.
Speaker 4 (45:35):
It's morning glory, but somehow it's just got a bad
reputation that it's undesirable. It's just not right.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Yeah, just like that this little hot that's right.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
And those golden dandelions. Yeah, so sparkling. Not a good
cut flower though, No, it willed that for a few hours.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
Okay, we're going to talk about fears flowers and all
vegetables and we'll see how far we get. Okay, here's
some of the fears or to talk without talk about
two common diseases on tomatoes. Almost every tomato vine gets
these every year, and now they're just starting to appear.
First one is early blight, and with that early bike
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you see in that brown lesion you can see the
rings on it. Yes, and in general yellowing. That's early
blight alternaria very common. There's another picture of it, kind
of big brown lesions. And then you got septoria leaf
bike these little tiny pinpricks that turn brownished burgundyish. So
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to prevent them, you don't do overhead watering. This is evil.
These plants are very unhappy you're getting these leaves wet,
and that's how these tomato diseases get going. They gotta
have humidity, and so when you do overhead watering, especially
in the evening hours, you're just putting a perfect environment
(47:00):
to attract diseases. So don't do overhead watering. Plants don't
drink through their leaves. They like to drink through their
roots if they that's or their preference. So avoid overhead irrigation.
And then you irrigate in the morning, never at night,
and kind of like water in your long water deeply
but not frequently. The roots grow where the water is.
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If your water deep, the roots grow deep, and that's
what you want. And malting can help serve as a
barrier for some of these tomato diseases. That because the
diseases start at the soil. So if you have some
mults between your vine and the soil, that can serve
as a barrier. Okay, So for your tomato vines, get
them off the ground because the disease comes from the soil.
(47:44):
Avoid splashing the soil on the leaves. And a lot
of people prone off their lower tomato vine leaves if
the leaves touch the soil. And we can use protective
preventative funge sides and these Coralthalano is a long name,
but it's at every garden center. It's like vegetable fun
just side. That's that's what is common. And copper is
(48:06):
an organic option. But the only work as preventatives. Once
you got it, you got it. You can't cure it.
So the tree is try to prevent it. Get the
plants off the ground, and be careful in you water
water infrequently and avoid soil splash. Okay, I got this.
Here's another fear. I got this question from somebody that
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got this ugly crud growing on their tomato vine. Have
you ever seen that? You? Guys? What is is it?
Cruddy brush?
Speaker 2 (48:41):
You don't need to be fearful.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
You scrub it off.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
You're not gonna scrub that off, are you?
Speaker 4 (48:49):
No? I don't my vines but they're clean. But no,
this is these are just tomatoes have the capacity to
form roots on their stems. So these are just we
call them adventitious roots. Or if you lay this on
the soil, they would pop out roots. So this is
just nature. It's nothing wrong, nothing harmful, So don't worry
(49:11):
about it. Don't worry about these. There's just potential roots.
It's not it's just nature. Okay, then I have I've
had two people this week complain that they're not getting
any fruits. This is on a zucchini and that was
a major problem for this person. Like zucchini. So I see,
you gotta see like you've got male and female flowers.
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So this is a male flower. It doesn't have a fruit.
Males do not produce fruits, only females do. So there
you see picture. You got a female cucumber and a
male cucumber flower. Females have the fruits. You gotta have both,
so check di vine's carefully. Sometimes there's a lot more
men out there than females. Especially females are more or
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sensitive environmental stress. There's a female cube, there's a female pumpkin.
So once you see, now, the other thing to keep
in mind is that like that female flower, she's only
receptive for one day. One day. You gotta have that
pollination occurred that day, and so you got to promote
a healthy, healthy garden where there's lots of b activity. Okay,
(50:24):
sometimes if it's really hot, the flower just ain't gonna
make it. And this said tomato flower, and this is
actually wind pollinated more than anything else. But if it's
in the nineties or high eighties, you're gonna have. It's
just not gonna set fruit. So you just wait till
the next flush of flowers. No worries.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
You didn't tell the zucchini lady not to worry. There'll
be plenty to be on your doorstep or something later.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
Said she's got to check to make sure there's male
and female flowers. Yeah, or you're gonna donate some tours.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
That just as the joke, right, too much as zucchini,
I know.
Speaker 4 (50:59):
So, but you know, uh, people, uh, we always want
we're always looking forward to those first fruits, and so
if you're not seeing fruit being set, it's a concern.
So just make sure you got male and female flowers
out there. Nothing, it's just kind of fun, okay. Sometimes
if you up with those flowers, you see evil beetles.
(51:20):
This is a striped cucumber beetle, and they're spotted ones too,
and they eat into the cucumber lee. You see that
those little holes they're doing, and they eat and they
spread bacteria and they poop bacteria. And that when I
see that ragged look, that is a problem with cucumber beetles,
(51:42):
and they spread bacteria. Will no cure for this. So
if you're seeing some wilting vines. That's back. You gotta
rip them out before that bacteria spreads from those beetles.
So what I do, Like, we grew a lot of
cucumbers on our farm, so as soon as we saw
the first beetles, we win after them, showing no mercy.
(52:03):
But to control it, you got to remove the infective
plants and then kill the cucumber beetles. They say you
should spray if you see twenty beatles per plant. I'm
more aggressive than that. I don't wait.
Speaker 1 (52:14):
It seems like a lot to see twenty on one plant.
Speaker 4 (52:18):
Yeah, what's a big vine?
Speaker 2 (52:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (52:20):
Well you know that's that's Some people just say, do
I really have to spray?
Speaker 3 (52:25):
You know?
Speaker 4 (52:26):
So it's economics, okay, But and how you feel about it?
Like for me, I don't want no darn beetles in
my yard. They're gonna spread disease. Yeah, I'm gonna kill it.
And so how I kill it? Pyreeth nim spin u
set and the pyreethroids. So pyreethrin. The nice thing about
pyrether nin and spino set are organic. Pyrethon is only
(52:48):
good for one day. But you know, the nice thing
is that it won't harm bees in the next day,
so it's only active for one or two days. Neime
won't even affect bees, so that's good. So if they're blooming,
the plants are blooming, you might want to consider it
an organic type because you don't want to harm the
honey bees when you spray. And Spino said also, as
(53:09):
long as you it dries, the bees won't be affected
by it. Pyreth in short, it will kill bees. But
that's why you got to spray the evening hours when
the bees are not active. Pyreethroid's gotta be especially this
is what the hardcore stuff like seven or eight. That's
a synthetic pyreethro. You gotta be careful with that because
(53:30):
that's definitely bees are very sensitive to that, so be careful.
Only spray in the evening hours. But from my experience,
I use one quick spray and then my problem solved.
I get on the problem right away. Okay, spray in
the evening is very important. Okay. Last thing to talk
about is these beautiful flowers in my yard right now.
(53:52):
Just this is my fall picture here. You see how
the days are getting shorter. It's kind of sad and
or just be the great as in your garden. I
think maybe, or you.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
Know, I don't let them go to seeds, so who knows?
Speaker 4 (54:05):
That's right? And uh, well my law war broke, so
it's going to seed. So but this could use this
for a cut flour, right, we can try it, right
for sure? Yeah, there you go. Is it beautiful or
is it? Is it a weed or beautiful? I don't know.
But it's fall, that's why I show it. And the
days are getting short, so just in the brief minute
(54:26):
we have here, you can grow fall vegetables. Now is
it time to get serious about it? Okay? I grow
radishes in the spring, and then when I harvest them,
they're all bitter. That's because they're bulbing up when it's hot.
You want radishes to bulb up when it's cool. That's
when they're mild. That's when they're delicious. The best radishes
(54:48):
are grown in the fall. Same with turnips. Most people
don't grow turnips, they may not even like them. But
if you grow them in the fall, this is a
hot rive. Right. A Japanese turnip so fruity, absolutely delicious
and easy to grow. Thirty five days from seed, you
can harvest ease in the fall. They're so it's a
nice it's a nice vegetable to grow in the fall.
(55:11):
Spinach taste great in the fall. There's even some funky
looking vegetables like Cole Robbie. Again, the vegetables, they will
bulb up when it's cool and mild, and they'll have
the best flavor, the fruitiest, the least starchy flavor if
they ripen when it's cool. So you gotta find when
(55:32):
do we sow them. You got to find out the
last freeze frost eight for Bismarck, and Dave's Garden has
a website that you can do that. If you do
the if you look at the top green line, you
see fifty percent chance of a frost and the left
line says fall thirty two degrees. That's our first, that's
our that's our light frost. So it's about September twenty
fifth is when we get our first light frost in
(55:55):
most years. Okay, And there's other resources the Midwest Reaching
Climbing Center or has this information. So then I go
to my Johnny Sea cattalg and I just type in
my date September twenty fifth, and that's when I'm going
to get my first life froth and then it tells
me my planting dates to spit them outh for me.
(56:15):
And so here's an example, like I got time, that's
what you got to get moving on beats. And then yeah,
so like soon you got to get that Swiss chart
if you want. And then turnips, Cole, Robbie. And then
first week of August you want to plant your spinach
and any Asian greens they're fun to grow too, and
(56:35):
radishes you plant them a little bit later because they're
definitely they are twenty five thirty day things. So red
rash is you can wait till mid August for that.
But again, don't despair. We still got a growing season,
still got some stuff we can sew, and but you
just gotta gotta make a plan, just like with the
followers you talked earlier, and make it happen. So that's
(56:58):
what I got today, positivity at the end. We're gonna
I like it. You can still plant some stuff. And
again I'm really if you've never planted radishes in the fall,
you got there's so much better than they are. I
never grow them in the spring anymore. They taste terrible.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
I'm curious what you eat the turn ups with you
describe so fruity flavor, like you can.
Speaker 4 (57:18):
Make them like you slice them up and they can
you boil them, and you can eat the greens, the greens,
turn of greens. That's my that's my favorite green. Wow,
they're they're they're milder flavor than the than like those
mustard greens, most mustard greens. But and you stir fry them.
Stir fry the greens, and you can make soups out
(57:40):
of the roots, yeah, or salad. You can cut them
just like radish when they're young. Yeah. That that white
Asian when hot carry is really good. Yeah, that's yeah,
it's part of a healthy diet.
Speaker 3 (57:57):
You know that.
Speaker 4 (57:59):
It is.
Speaker 2 (58:00):
I've never grown turn ups, So I got.
Speaker 4 (58:03):
Some seeds for you.
Speaker 1 (58:04):
Oh do you?
Speaker 4 (58:05):
I'll share someone if you promised to grow up.
Speaker 2 (58:08):
For my held out garden that I got going on?
Speaker 4 (58:13):
Really yeah? Sorry both.
Speaker 2 (58:15):
It doesn't look good.
Speaker 4 (58:17):
Okay, Well, today it was an exciting episode.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
We thank Hunter for joining us. Maybe we can get
her in on one more before the end of the internship.
Speaker 4 (58:27):
Well, seems like she's having all these sold out workshops,
so I think we should take advantage of.
Speaker 3 (58:32):
Oh, yeah, high demand.
Speaker 4 (58:34):
Yeah, there you go. So and maybe you can come
back next year for us, you know, be an intern
next year. You've got a career.
Speaker 3 (58:44):
You never know.
Speaker 4 (58:44):
Maybe I'll retire, you can take my job. Perfect, we'll
see what happens. Just kiddie people, just kidding, relaxed.
Speaker 1 (58:51):
Yeah, we don't need as going on, that's for sure. Well,
we just want to say thank you for joining us
today on our episode, and again a sincere thank you
to Hunter for joining us today as well. That was fun,
learned a lot and really enjoyed your presentation, and as always,
(59:12):
we just hope that you will join us on our
future episodes.
Speaker 3 (59:18):
Dakota Growing is a gardening show brought to you by
Dakota Media Access and NDSU Extension. We discuss a variety
of timely topics pertaining to your landscape, along with giving
you tips and advice for your lawn, garden, in trees.
Speaker 2 (59:31):
If you have questions, call seven oh one two two
one six eight sixty five or email NDSU dot Burley
dot Extension at NDISU dot com.
Speaker 3 (59:41):
Dakota Growing airs on Radio Access one O two point
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