Dakota Growing Ep. 56 - Composting, Bulbs and Grass in the Fall

Kelsey Deckert and Tom Kalb talk about squash, composting and more!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Welcome to Dakota Growing. I'm Kelsey Deckert, joined in the
radio Access studio by my co host Tom Cobb NDSU
Extension Horticulture US, and we also have Hunter Gallinger back,
my du hort intern. She's in her last couple of days.
It's been pretty sad.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I thought she was going to be an intern her
whole life. You know, some guy don't wait. But she's
moving on moving. It's positive.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
She was willing to join us one last time.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
She survived summer.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Survive summer with you, Kelsey.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
So, Hunter, you feel like this week summer was a
productive Did you learn anything this year?

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah? I learned a lot this ungler. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
There you go get a pretty good mentor I have
to see. Yeah, what else you want to talk Are
you gonna talk about something? What are you gonna talk
about today? Anyhow?

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Okay, Yeah, so today I'm going to talk about composting.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Cool?

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah, I don't know even just.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Dive right in with oh man, we got a lot
to talk about today.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah. So you know, I thought maybe this would be
a good topic because you know, if people's gardens or
maybe wrapping up for the season might be a good
time to think about what to do with all that material?

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Really, it's gonna be eightiest. You know, it's going to
say the comment do you know about I.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Think you're going to talk about it late frost in August?

Speaker 2 (01:47):
I know, if there's snow, snow in September, I hope
not having ever very global warming. We're not going to
get a frost in August. Get real about this, okay.
But compost, yeah, because like well preton, the leaves are
going to come down. I don't know what to do
it all.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
I mean I have been pulling my lettuce plants because
they bold. Yeah, but still weighing on the squash. I
haven't like dove into that jungle to see where things
are at all.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Right, on the composts, compost squashed you know what?

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:21):
On pumpkins, Yeah, after your Halloween, just stomp on them,
put them in the compost pile where you go. It
is a related topic.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
It is all right, educate our viewers today.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Discussion going on. So yeah, composting is what I'll be
talking about, so kind of just get right into it.
What is composting? Just breaking down organic materials using micro organismes.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
That's recycling, beautiful, That's not the right when I left
is such garbage and it turns into something magical there,
m it is magical.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
So yeah, what to compost? We kind of break it
down into two categories, greens and browns. So the greens
are things like food scraps, weeds and grass, and the
browns are things like trees and branches and leaves. So
those are kind of things to be on the lookout
to compost. And the smaller the pieces the better. For sure,
it'll make it easier for breaking down.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
The one thing you got to tell our viewers though,
about grass clippings.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Okay, yes, if you've applied herbicide to your lawn, you
cannot use the grass clippings because then if you go
and put that on your garden, you're going to give
herbicide damage to your vegetables.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Oh, some of those chemicals take years.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
And just follow the label on the herbic side. Yeah,
the herbicide, if it is a persistent herbicide, I'll tell you,
I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Just don't use what I'm not going to use the
grass clippings in the compost.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
That's that's that's one thing. Yeah, Or just don't spray
here lawn too have a beautiful wildfar easy, that's mine.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Pollen eaters nice and green.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
And yellow and white and pink, lots of colors.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Mm hmm, yeah, cause he's on top of it with
my Next is what not to compost? So yeah, we
got like meat and grease, dairy products, pet waste, yard
materials with chemical residue, and then diseased or infested plant parts.
And that's just because some of these can like attract
you know, rodents and raccoons. Some of them just don't

(04:30):
break down well, and then other ones are not good
if you're gonna put them back on your garden.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, very good.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, So if you're thinking about composting, where do you begin?
First thinking about location? Probably so I have convenient area.
What does that mean? That's super vague, kind of is
up to the individual person. Like, if you're gonna compost
mainly your garden materials, maybe it's near the garden. If
you're mainly doing food scraps, maybe it's close to your
house stuff like that. But in general, you want to

(05:01):
avoid like a really wet area, avoid standing water because
that just won't be good for like the decomposition if
it's always like soaking wet, no decomposition is really going
to happen.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
This was a good year to know where you have
standing water, if you have any in your yard.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
That's a good point. Yeah, I recommend the backyard as
opposed to the front yard. Yeah, compost what.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Those neighbors yelled at you.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, I don't want the raccoons in my front yard.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
That's true too, m m yeah. And then another point
with the location is like what sort of container or
you can make a heap if you want. You kind
of want it to be either three by three by
three to five y five by five, so that's in
that size range. And then you want to container that
all out air movement and the ability to turn it.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
We like your middle picture, we've we've talked about that
in the past. How you can like that's your progression
of moving it. So you start off in like the
first bin, as it breaks down, move it to the
second open area, and then your finished product should be
in that third area and that's all sudden done.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, that's a great the aggression to have, yeah m
hm yeah. And then also where to begin what are
you adding to the compost file. So we kind of
already talked your greens and your browns, so those provide
nitrogen and carbon which the microorganisms need in order to
break stuff down. And then water is also really important.

(06:33):
You want it to be damp but well drained. So
generally I saw, you know, you should be able to
like squeeze it like a like a wrung out sponge
or something. Maybe like a couple drops of water come out,
but it's not a stream and it's not nothing, so
that perfect.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Media mud and muck on your heads.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah, just you really got to get in there. And
then also we have aerration and temperature are important components,
so you want to be turning the pile every once
in a while. And then for the temperature, I mean
like most people, I would say, are not going to
get out there with like a meat thermometer and stick
that in the pile. But generally you want to be
seeing higher temperatures.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Because that means it's going to decompose faster, and seeing
when you turn it because all the heats and the inside,
so that's where the decomposition occurs. We want to get
that thing going out otherwise I could take years for
that stuff thought.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah. Yeah, So then we've got like maintenance of the pile,
so turning that just provides air, and then you're moving
the materials on the outside inwards so that they can
get in the center and get in that heat and
start decomposing. Generally, it seems like every like one to
two weeks you should be turning and then watering just

(07:51):
kind of as needed, you know, check that moisture level
and see how much water your specific compost pile needs.
Good and then timeline, you know, like how long is
this going to take to get from food scraps to
my pile to like a finished product roughly you know,
anywhere between like four weeks and eight months. It can

(08:14):
really depend based off you know, how much care you're
putting into the compass pile, the types of materials you
put in, the time of year can all affect the
timeline of how long this will take.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
So great fall winner project to have a finish product
come next spring.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, I would, Well, you got to keep it turning.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Right, I mean, you've got to put the work in
and the.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Finer the material that really makes a huge difference. And
I think, uh like for most it all depends if
you're just doing i mean grass clippings, that's really quick,
but we're not going to use that now, so bites
within one years, it is good. Some people have a

(09:02):
cold compost pile that means they never turn it, and
then that can take you a few years. Yeah, So
it allpends how much work you want to put into it.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Mm hmm, all right, and then you know, you put
all this work in the compost pile, when is it done?
You know how to tell when it's done. The finished
pile is normally a lot smaller size wise than your
initial pile, normally like a third of the size. It'll
be that dark, crumbly material. And then the original material
should be unrecognizable. So if you put you know, potato

(09:35):
peels and leafs and branches all in there, you should.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Be able to recognize anything you can't see anymore. Doesn't smell, Yeah,
it shouldn't smell. Really, just grab it, stick it up
in your nose, take a whiff, get that ear if
you can't, Yeah, that's right. You can't recognize anything that's
ready to go?

Speaker 3 (09:57):
There you go perfect, and then you know what are
you going to do with it? You know, what's the purpose?
What are we going to do with the compost? Now
that we have it mostly like a soil amendment. You
can mix it into your garden and or use it
as a molts or lawn top dressing.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
It's organic matter.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, it's really builds up the structure of the soil,
helps the buffering capacity. It's kind of like candy. A
little bit. A little bit's good, but a lot of
it's not so good. So don't have your garden one
hundred percent compost Just what would you say, hunter, just
about an inch or two and work it in.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, like a kind of like one fourth ratio.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
In a raised bed like situation, about one fourth raised
bed Yep, that would be great. Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah. So yeah, getting in some of the benefits you
guys already mentioned really good ones we've got. Increasing organic
matter and fertility probably are kind of number one obvious one.
And then yeah, improving the soil structure with water or
infiltration things like that, increasing the micro organism activity retains
moisture and nutrients and then just reduces food waste. If

(11:09):
that's something people are concerned about, you know, you want
to be more conscious of that. Crom posting is a
good way to do.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
That, sounds great.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
And then troubleshooting you know, I feel like maybe if
you have an existing compost pile and you're like, wow, it's.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Not really doing.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Anything, maybe there's something wrong with it, you can kind.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Of think about.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, I think about some of these things. So if
your pile has a bad odor, not really a great sign.
It may be too wet or not have enough air.
So what you should do is add more brown material
and start turning the pile more often.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
I agree, stinky piles no good.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah. And then if your pile doesn't seem to have
any decomposition happening, it may be too Rye is a
very common issue, it seems, so you should be making
sure to add water every once in a while. And
then if pests like rodents or dogs are interfering with
your pile, you can bury the food waste into the

(12:16):
center so it's not available on the top, or you
can try to cover up the pile.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Somehow, like put a wire barrier or something around the
pile to keep the rod the rodents out.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Yeah. And then if you notice that the pile is
like not heating up, like if all the other things
seem okay, but it's just not getting that temperature, the
pile may be too small. We kind of talked about
the size earlier. That size is to ensure that it
gets to the correct temperatures, so or it could be
too dry, so add more green material or add water.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Very good. Yeah you composts in the past ever A no? Huh?

Speaker 2 (13:04):
So well I have to. I got a long life
behind me, so it takes some while to like rewind
my life and think about it. I would say I
have never composted in my life for real. Yeah you know,
I've done compost demonstrations for us, but I've never done
it myself. I don't want to be too negative. I'll

(13:26):
just say that I just never. I just I just
never did. Yeah, you know, I don't have that much
food waste, you know, when you have frozen pizza every day,
don't have that much food waste. And but yeah, good.
But I'm learning a lot, you know, Like I'm learning
on a show that I shouldn't be using a rotertailer.

(13:48):
I shouldn't be now I should be composting.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Soil health is becoming a big issue. Huh hu. It
seems like it's like more like the future before we
just rev Roller Taylor and get me some ten ten ten,
and let's rock and roll. Let's fine, let's let's grow.
But now it's got to be more holistic and environmental.
So there you go. Mm hm, So I think you

(14:12):
covered all that. Well, yeah, that's an agree primer on composting.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Oh yeah, so yeah, that's really all I had on composting.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Well, it's good. Hopefully somebody's inspired.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Probably not, Tom said, but yeah maybe, you.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Know, it's probably one.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
I still like frozen pizza. Sorry, it's not gonna change.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
And she told you you can't compost that, so the question.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
That's right, that's right. No, it's it's a good idea,
you know, it's totally good. And and also in the
past I've relied on composts like from the from the
municipalities and stuff like that. So if they want to
do the composting for me, and it's all the better.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
There young, But we'll talk about a little bit since caution.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yes, okay, sounds good, perfect, I'm gonna jump in. I am.
I'm going to talk about planting some cold, hardy balds.
I know we're a little bit ahead of schedule, but.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
I gonna snow in September you said, I didn't say that,
Frost Colment.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
No, no, no, no, But we're also planning for a
super special episode coming up to Oh.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Really, no, how come you didn't tell me about that?

Speaker 1 (15:26):
The surprise?

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Am I being cut out of this show? Am I
out of here with Hunter?

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Is that? What's going on? You're going solo here?

Speaker 1 (15:33):
I don't think so, not at all.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Are you like a rock star going on your own now? No,
you're breaking up the bean.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
I would not break up the bad. I think you'll
be the one to break up the bad before I.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Do you mean I'm moving to Florida? Or sometimes you
might move in to a retirement home. Okay, you talk
about it, so maybe, but no, the things got to
make our plans for planets and balls. You know, you
got order like I see ads for garlic now all
the time. Got to buy the garlic cewoner.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Okay, we'll put your plug. Where should people order?

Speaker 2 (16:07):
I can't say that because.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Some places where good places. You can list more than one.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
There's a lot of good companies wherever you had success,
and there's a local garden center said just look like
when you look for any bulb, make sure it's a
good size and make sure it's firm and that's right
for bulbs. There makes a huge difference, it really does.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Okay, well let's jump in. I'm not going to cover
garlic today, but I'm going to talk about some other
cold party mobs like spring flowering for us. Right, Okay,
so our time, like I said, we are a little ahead.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
That's the way you are. I know, that's what I'm
always planning ahead.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
It's like perfect for me.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
For me that if it's mid September through mid October,
I would probably start thinking about it about October fourteenth.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
That probably there you go the day before there you
call mid septebner mid October kind of when our nighttime
temperatures start to stay in that forty to fifty degrees.
We basically want to see those bulbs in the ground
for about four to six weeks before that ground freezes. Okay,

(17:25):
So as far as planting them, our location and stuff,
we want a location that's going to get six hours
of direct sunlight. Again, just like with everything, we want
that soil rich, well drained. If you have to remove
any weeds or any other garden plants that are going
to put like a new area of spring plant or
spring flowering bulbs. Get get that organic matter, get that

(17:48):
plant material out of there. You want to loosen that
soil about twelve inches deep. And then of course anywhere
you order from, it's going to come with those directions.
Those directions are horn follow them right, and like you said,
bigger the ball, the better. So let me just ask you,
without recommending places, what what is a time frame? Like

(18:11):
if I order bulbs today, when would I get them?

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Well, they're advertising their sales right now, so that means
they're ready to ship.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
They're ready to ship. So yeah, so no like pre
order right now you can like I know, you get
all the seed catalogs, so you know this.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
I've already getten seed catalogs for twenty twenty six already.
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah, that's your wine, that's your winter reading.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
That's that's well, it's my nighttime reading. Yeah, it's like
I have nice dreams at night. I can dream about gardens. Yeah,
I think there's bulbs like I was looking for Amarillis
bulbs recently. They're ready to go somewhere even out of stock.
Saying with garlic garlic is actually very popular. Yeah, and uh,

(18:56):
most of the major seed companies or bulb companies will sell.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Out, so get on it today. Then you can't wait
till that.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right about that. Or
you just get the worst ones or Fridays, you know,
the stuff to taste the worst. So yeah, you're right,
you're right. There is a there is a there is
a good You've got some good qualities about your Kelsey,
about your planning. There is some positives that.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Some negatives.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
But no, I'm trying to be more like you, so
thank you. Appreciate that you have a good positive influence
on me. Oh, okay, I'm planning. I'm usually at the
studio on time. You know, I'm trying to do better.
There you go, so keep going, man.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Okay, So let's talk about protecting them. So when you
do plant them and stuff, it's great to put a
fine mesh fence like chicken wire over them. And we
don't want any friends of our wildlife coming in and
trying to dig them up. That'd be my dog. My
dog would.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Definitely, Oh how about the horses prying?

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Not the horse, so now you're gonna be planted out
of the pastor but the dog, she would she'd cast
some issues. She's I gotta I gotta dash hound. You know,
their bread to hunt badgers.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Oh really Yeah, So they like digging.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
She loves digging my golfer holes, my ground holes.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
I did have horses in my front yard once. It
was on the morning of the Corda Garden ex Bowl,
one of the first ones, and there was like three
horses in my front yard.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
My years ago was because as I was gonna say,
of your neighborhood, they're not that far away.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
They got out and they're just they're just grazing my
front yard, dropping their droppings and stuff, and they go,
what am I going to do? Man, I gotta go
to the ex bow. It's like seven three in the morning.
So there you go. I had horses. So horses can
get into your into your yard. Be careful. They cat
especially your horses.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah, they get even mulching throughout the winter. That's gonna
insulate them and help. So that'll be really good. And then,
just like before, we get into some specific bulbs and stuff,
like what are some reasons for possible poor flowering? So one,
if you're tom and it's October fourteenth, might be too late.

(21:25):
That might be one of them foods. You might have
platted too shallow. Like I said, animals can go ahead
and dig those up. Bulbs can even rot if you've
had it where they flowered that first year but not
the second. Might be in an area that's too shady,
or you went ahead and removed leaves before they yellowed

(21:46):
and withered. We've talked about that in the past. How
they need to come and store that energy down into
their bulbs right.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Right the first year. When buy a bulb, it's got
all the food that it needs needs, it's ready to go.
So actually, I have planted bulbs in December and had
good success here. No, that was in Wisconsin. I live
right next to a bulb company, and they would give
me thousands of free bulbs at the end of the

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year that I would give away to all the schools
and churches in the neighborhood. What kind of bulbs, tulips
and daffodils and aliens and hyacinths and all of it,
all that all their left door stuff, And so I
would plant in December. It still worked. But but you're right,
it's not ideal. But it's the first year where okay,

(22:34):
it's it's like you say the second year is when
we can have some problems. That's right. They have to regenerate.
The bulb has to regenerate itself. So that's that's why
it's better if it's in a sunny area because they
can regenerate themselves that photosynthesis happening. Kind of interesting thing
is some bulbs will tolerate a little shade because when

(22:57):
you think about it, the leaves of the tree aren't
really fully open, and so like you have some of
these well plantings on the edges of like a woodlands. Yeah,
and to get enough sun that they can regenerate themselves
just because the leaves aren't open yet, they're slowly open.
And as far as your your stupid dogs there, I

(23:21):
recommend the plant daffodils. Yeah, you can talk about.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
That god daffodils.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Okay, good, let's keep going.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Let's keep going. So let's talk a little bit specific
ones crocus you ever plant.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Though, yes, I've planted all these I love.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Okay, so you can tell us all the extra details.
I just went with some you know, bold points. We
want to start putting these in the soil when we're
the lowest sixty degrees fahrenheit space them three to four inches.
And these guys work well in group plantings, as the
picture shows here.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
And they bloom so early. That's the thing about a crocus.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Crocus is the sign of spring.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
That's real.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yeah right, you know, Okay, daffodils, same thing. We're gonna
plant those when we fall below sixty degrees. They have
a variety of colors, very fragrant. They are like a
deterrent because of their fragments. At least that's what people say.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
But see the thing about a daffodil, daffodil bulbs are poisonous.
Oh somebody, dog would die exactly. Daffil is a scientic
scientific name of daffodils is narcissus, yes, which is the
same as narcotics.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
So it's not where narcotics come from.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Well, it's the same root word. And so you know, horses, dogs, squirrels,
they're not gonna eat daffodil bulbs, so they know they
might get a little high off of it, but they
know it's toxic. So if you've got a problem with wildlife,
daffodils are a great way to go.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah, so you think they work as a det or,
and then for sure they're Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
So if they're not detrent, it's a wildlife control measure maybe,
but usually while he's smart, they can they can figure
it out after they get a bad tommy ache.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
So these guys do need a little bit like fair
amount of water during their growing period. But daffodils are great.
But you kind of wish the Code of Garden Expo
you would have had some mount in your yard. Huh
when the horses came, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
What they were doing there. They're just grazing my lawn,
That's all they're doing. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
How about these the I'm not how do you even
pronounce fret Hilaria also known as guinea hen, which is
kind of cool because if you s pitcher's harder to see,
but if you get up close, they have like see
like guineas. I understand guineas. They have like the pattern
of a guinea, like they're feathers. You ever plant these.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Never? I don't know, maybe once? No, not that you're
wear no, no no.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
These are kind of cool when I came across these
and stuff. Obviously they're hardy for O zone and everything.
They do need moist soil even when it's dormant. So
you know, if we had a droughty year, maybe not.
Aside to plant these, they say that they have a stinky,
skunky smell that is a good animal repellent as well.

(26:34):
And when you order these, they should be kept in
like moist peat until to shoots roots developed before you
actually plant them. But they're interesting because like they're a
flower that they hook over and the flower opens face
in the ground. So I can't say I've ever heard

(26:54):
of any gardeners or like seen these on any of
the garden tours, but kind of inspires me to think
about adding these just because they're n No, because they're unique,
like which there's not a lot of flowers that open
face in the ground, right, you know they face the sun,

(27:16):
they face upper but in general you're right, yeah, so
kind of unique.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
I like them.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
How about Gloria the snow You ever plant these ones?
They're one of the earliest balds to bloom. There can
be growing even when there's still snow on the ground.
I'm guessing that's hence their name. Uh, they are a
smaller bald, so you want to make sure to not
plant these ones too deep. Again, I guess these ones

(27:43):
are kind of down downward shape as well. You mentioned
hyacinth very fragrant. A lot of people are familiar with
the grape variety that's purple. They bloom around the same
time as daffodils, and they grow active again in the
mid fall, so that's kind of a bonus on these ones.

(28:04):
And they there is a famous planting I found out
in the Netherlands, and they are known as the Blue River.
I am curious if you've ever been there.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
I've never been to the Netherlands. Yeah, I've heard. Yeah,
of course, their springtime is spectacular with all those flowers
going nuts. And you ever hear of the blue River,
Then I've never heard of the Blue River. Yeah, it
must be the blue blue hyacinse is that you're saying? Yeah,

(28:33):
it's just so many blue Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
I had to do a little Google to look at it.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
I wonder what that smells like. Well, it's got to
be unbelief like all those hyacinths. Highcens is very fragrant.
That's the one that's fragrant.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
So your favorite, no, no.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
My favorite is I would say parrot tulips.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Okay, tulips are common.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Before that, let's talk about or na mental onions. So
these guys are drought tolerant and they actually prefer a
dry soil, so they're going to do very well in
North Dakota. Here, animals do tend to leave them alone
as well, and they can be planted a few weeks
from a hard frost, so you're closer to that hard frost.

(29:19):
If you're late, these ones are probably gonna do alright.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
And these could be quite there. Again, this is kind
of a little bit like fritile area, but it's easier
to grow. They are special and they're often like more
of in the background. It's just like a giant fireworks,
a purple fireworks bursting open. So this is pretty fairly popular,
but it just doesn't match the other the other major

(29:44):
bols like tullets and daffodils and hyacin, so focus right,
it's like it's more like a specialty tight.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Yeah, I'd say, see, I've seen a lot of people
with these ones there too, you know so, And I
just realized as I'm plugging for forward here, I actually
have a repeat slide, so I'm gonna jump to tulips here.
Of course, I know you've talked about tulips extensively on
our show a lot of wide variety of shape, sizes,

(30:14):
and colors. This was something I actually did not know
that more of our modern cultivars only really bloom well
for three or four years, and then you're supposed to
replace them. I guess I just come back to when
I was a kid and my mom had tulips on
the side of our garage and every year they just
came back up.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
So that was a good gardener. She did nothing for
some Well, you don't have to be dead dizzy all
the time. Maybe sometimes if you know, you just got
to trim off the seed stock, let the ball regenerate itself,
put it in a sunny place. But yeah, tulops do
get tired. Yeah, you know, daf fidols are more long lasting.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
So you said parrots is your favorites.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah, Like you said, there's different there's different types of shapes.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
There's those feathery petals.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
They're so funky, man, It's like, so it's.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
A favorite color of those.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
The black parrot is the it's kind of like the
coolest one. But for me, I like generally like the
the warm colors orange, yellow, red, those kind of those.
There's ones like that that are parrots like that, and
the pair of tups are also they're only going to
give you like two years. They're they're not that vigorous.

(31:34):
If I had a plant to two up, if I
was just a normal person, I would get a Darwin hybrid.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
The Darwin hybrids are the most vigorous, and they had
the biggest bulbs and those are the longest lasting ones.
And they're there have sturdy stems and they're very showy,
so like the apple dorns the impressions, but they're all
called Darwin hybrids. That's the most vigorous type and a

(32:02):
good one to get started with. But there's like lily
shaped ones. There's one shaped like peonies that are quite beautiful. Yeah.
I used to have, like, uh, I had a garden.
I had like sixty different types of tulips in it. Wow.
So yeah, and there.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Road today's garden any tulips.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
I did for a while. But I don't know what happened.
I got old or something. I was just I don't
know what happened. Too busy with other gardening stuff. But uh,
yeah that was when I was young and single, and
you know, you just I had community gardens I had
I had a community garden.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
You gave bouquet of flowers to all the ladies a technique.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Listen, when I was young and I had that community garden.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
There was the hot spot of town.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
It was at our it was our county office, and
I had I had a community orchard there too, And uh,
but as far as giving them to the girls, I
didn't know many girls back then because when extension, my
dad told me Tom, it's Tom, You're never gonna get
married because the only girls you ever see are either
six or sixty. So and he was right. I had

(33:18):
to get out of that job to find a wife. So, Hunter,
if you're going to be an extension, you have our
time finding a partner.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Got it, Got it.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
But that's a whole nother story. What else you gotta say?
What do you gotta say about flowers? You're at the
flower person, I.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Don't know, Well, you're talking about like sixty tulips. That
makes me think, who needs to go visit the Netherlands?
If you've you go at the Netherlands home, you.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Know, well, yeah, a lot of the balls were free
because you know, I got on flu right by the ball,
almost right by the ball company at right across the
border in Illinois.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Was your garden never featured in newspapers?

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah, sure, sure you should.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
The thing I remember from that is somebody complained in
the community.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Oh, why I was featuring.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
On public ground here? What are we wasting our taxpayer
money on this? Got four? You know, beautifying the community,
like beautifying the county office grounds. And so then we
just had to say sorry, it was all free, and
they go, oh, I'm sorry. I got nothing to say
about that. Then That's what I remember about that. I
had confoot there. But yes, people would just come there

(34:30):
and yeah and yeah, and then we'd and then you
can transition them into annuals later once the bulls are tired. Yeah.
So yeah, beautiful deaf I again, deafields are very easy
to grow. But they're all nice, very good.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
What do you got for us today?

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Today? I got some lots of stuff to talk about today.
And some of it's your fault, I have to say, Kelsey,
because you you insisted I talk about asked and oh
I just asked. You requested, Oh I did?

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Was my email?

Speaker 2 (35:08):
I could feel I could feel the request. It wasn't
more than just a request. It was like Tom are
you gonna talk about fall long care. And she decided, yeah, okay,
I will.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Sure, Kells, you don't be bad.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Okay, So but I got other stuff to talk about. Well,
I'm gonna talk about fall on care first, okay. Four.
I would say three major activities in the fall, Yes,
sowing seed, fertilizing, and controlling weeds. So even I got
a question of history on this, I said, when's the
best time to do this? Okay, it's green light, yellow light,
red light, green light. Now go mid August to mid

(35:49):
September is the time to sow your seeds. So right
now we're on the cusp. Well, the best time to
start sowing seeds because the ground's warm the seeds of
Germany quickly soon the town I'm sure going to cool off,
so there'll be less moisture stress on our seed wings. Also,
another nice thing now is that whenever you disturb the soil,

(36:09):
weed seeds Germany. But weed seeds are not as likely
to germinate in the fall. They just know they're not
going to make it before winter. Those weeds are smarter
than you think. So mid August to mid September is
the window to sow your seat. And so I'm going
to talk mostly about that. People talk about fertilizing usually

(36:29):
we want we want to fertilize and fall. That's the
most important seeds, that's the most impactful time. If I'm
going to do one time, I'm going to do in
fall because that's when the roots grow and I want
to have a strong root system, and so I'm going
to fertilize, but I want to wait until attempts cool
off a bit because that's what really triggers the turf
to start growing roots. So I would say, if you could,

(36:53):
let's just pause until around labor day, and that's the
best time to fertilize. And then was first controlling weeds.
That's a red light right now. It really shouldn't be
controlling uh perennials. You shouldn't be spraying them yet because
we want to wait until the weeds cooperate with us,

(37:13):
and the weeds once if we get the mid to
late September, the weeds naturally change from growing to protecting
themselves by sending their nutrients down into the roots. And
how do you kill weed. You got to get the
chemical down into the roots. So if we wait till
mid to late September, we'll have a much more successful kill. Okay,

(37:36):
so red light on that, I don't the spray now, okay,
So how are we going to sow grassy? The big
choice is what type of seed you use. When I
look at what do I want a good laan to be?
On the left, you see some traits. I want my
lawn to be hardy. I want to have a high
quality that means it's beautiful and full and soft to

(37:58):
my toes.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Know really, if you're walking in your lawn a lot.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Are playing soccer with the kids, yeah, you know, chasing
the horses out of my lawn. Yeah, and uh, I
want to be durable, so like when my kids tear
it up or you know, like when you get the
badminton going and these have those are volleyball going. Oh yeah,
I've got to repair itself. So and I want my
lawn to see the Germany quickly. And I want to

(38:26):
tolerate shade because I got trees or my house causing shade,
and a lot of us here in the western parv estate,
salt is an issue in our soils right. So Kentucky
bluegrass is the king. I would say everybody wants it's
that's right, And why do they want it? Because it's hardy,
and it's got high quality and it's durable. Okay, it's

(38:49):
the highest quality lawn. I'd say ninety five percent of
the lawns in North Dakota. I primarily Kentucky bluegrass, but
Kentucky bullgris definitely has some shortcomings. The seed does not
germanate fast. It can take three weeks to Germany. And
Kentucky bluegrass cannot tolerate shade and it cannot tolerate salty soil.

(39:12):
So we got to find in our seed mix. We've
got to include types of seeds that will Germany quickly,
will tolerate shade, and will tolerate salt. And that's why
we use a blend. And in this case, I get
these elements out of perennial rye grass because it Germany's fast. Okay,
blue grass takes three weeks to Germany. Rye grass five days.

(39:35):
It's jumping out of that ground and that can stabilize
the soil for when that bluegrass comes up later. But
of course the rye grass is going to die off
from a hard winter just because it's not that hardy.
But it does the job in the beginning, and then
for shady or salty salts, you really have to focus
on red or fine leaf fescues, and so that's the

(39:58):
predominant element should be your sage mix. So you put
them all three together and he got a good quality mix.
There's some other notable grass species out here in the West,
some of these rural mixes or mixes, low maintenance mixes.
They'll have crested wheat grass in them as one of
their elements because it's very drought tolerant and it's okay.

(40:22):
And same with turf type tall fescus. They're drought tolerant.
But those wheat grass and tall fescue are kind of
bunch grasses and they're coarse, so just have to keep
that in mind, not as high quality of a lawn.
And buffalo grass is a grass that's easy to maintain,
but it only looks good in the summertime so it

(40:44):
can take the heat, but it struggles in the fall
and struggles in the spring. So those are other notable types.
But I think the big three, a mix of Kentucky bluegrass,
the red or finely fescue, and perennial rye grass is
the best way to go So that's my tip. Select
a mix that has a blend of species and varieties.
I want a mixture, and even among the major types

(41:07):
of Kentucky bluegrass, I want more than one variety of
Kentucky bluegrass, because you know, I never know what disease
is going to come onto my lawn, and no, no
variety resists every disease. So a blend is like, helps me.
Don't put all your eggs in one basket. So let's
have a blend and then get your seed from a
northern seed source. You know, we got local seed dealers

(41:28):
here and Bizmark Mandan. They'll give you seeds for this area.
Got to be careful sometimes when you buy yours from
a big box store from a national brand, because maybe
that's if they say where the seeds from something, you
go look at the package, like if the seeds from
Kentucky or Tennessee or Alabama, Texas. I had people buy

(41:52):
seeds from big box stores, go buy a big bag
of that's Honkin tall type turf, Kentucky thirty one turfed.
They sew it and they go, oh my god, this
is the best lawn I ever had. But then in
spring it all died over winter, so the whole thing
turns yellow, so be careful. And then also you got
to be committed to water. You can't just throw the
grass seed unexpected to grow, that's right. You got to

(42:15):
keep the saw moist. And for bluegrass, you got to
keep them moist for two to three weeks and that
means you got it. Ideally, you should be out there
every day, lightly missing to keep the surface moist. And
if you got a huge area, which I've done, you know,
eight and a half, I at least try to get
to it well every other day. Got to keep the

(42:37):
saw moist because that seeds very shallow, seeds small. Keep
the dogs out, yep, and those horses. Okay, there thing
about turf I gotta talk about. I'm gonna move on.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
A lot of mushrooms because going up my is that right? Well,
not that specific promise. I wasn't there, but there's a
lot of this. But people say, can what is it?
Can I eat it? Or how do I stop it? Okay,
First of all, you never eat a mushroom unless you're
one hundred percent sure you know what it is and
it's edible. Just let it alone, just like a daffodil. Bulb.

(43:09):
Don't eat daffodil bulbs either. Just let it alone. And
as far as how do you stop it, you can't.
Mushrooms are just nature and there's no mushroom aside available. Sorry,
you got mushrooms, they're decomposing organic matter. There's like old
tree roots, old stumps, old lumber, something organic in that soil.

(43:34):
That's it's decomposing. So just if you got can't it'll
just rake it out and leave it alone. Okay, are
you with me on that team? I just mo grind?
Really do you mo high? You should mow your lawn high?
My lawn. You've got tall mushrooms some of them. Yeahs

(43:55):
kind of smart like.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Just again, I don't know, no idea what type.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
But us too big fat, big fair mushrooms. Yeah, but
do you ever eat them?

Speaker 1 (44:05):
I don't like I don't even like table mushrooms, So no,
I don't go.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
You know what fresh mushrooms like at this, like like
those canned mushrooms. Yeah, I'm with.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
You, you know, like that's what we talked about last
time cream beef checks.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
The terrible Oh, I'm not going there. Do you like
canned green beans?

Speaker 3 (44:26):
They're not really nice?

Speaker 2 (44:27):
See I'm with you. You've got potential, Hunter, I'm with you. Okay,
I should move on.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Let's keep moving on here.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
I don't eat mushrooms.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
That's that's the key.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Don't eat mushrooms from your lawn. What you do from
the store is your decision. I don't want to tell
you to, but I think fresh mushrooms are delicious myself. Okay,
So here's a lawn in or here's a gardener. Oh,
there's a garden in the middle of the pick through

(45:00):
to eight and there's a guy send me this picture
and goes, tom, what's wrong with my here's my garden,
brand new girl looks great, right, but he says, look
at my tomatoes. Wow, what's going on? They're all curled up? Man?
What's going on there? Is that a disease or something like?
Here's a quote, See how they're all curled and twisted
the tomatoes.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Hunter, do you know what's going on?

Speaker 3 (45:22):
I have an inkling of what might be going on here.
What do you think kind of looks like some herbicide damage?

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Wow? How did that happen?

Speaker 3 (45:32):
Well, maybe if we could do a little throwback to
what I talked about earlier.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
My com pols team going on. Well you are investigator,
detective hunter, I'll tell you got you were trained. Well,
that's it. Yeah, you're so all right. They got their
compoles from the Bismarck early contingent or was it Burley
Conic Bismarck from our municipal landfill. And you know when

(45:57):
they they developed compoles, they don't they don't filter the
grass clippings. They don't have an interviews. Did you use
you know, we'd be gone on your grass clippings? Did
you use tordon or whatever? And so some of the
clippings they can have very persistent herbicides, and that's what them.
This guy he got he put four inches of compost

(46:18):
on his garden and he worked at him and the
tomatoes all twisted. And that's because of the herbicide from
the compost. Gotta be careful about that. And the beans
they're also sensitive. See how the leads are a little
bit kind of rigid and kind of little curled a
little bit. The beans were also showing the impacts of
that compost. Melons were pretty good, don't They weren't as

(46:41):
sensitive to it. So what do you do if you
got contaminated compost?

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Yeah, you got it right up here. I'm gonna have.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
To the first one curse, curse at the municipality. Just
what the hell I.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Really need to like take drive sometime because people have
told me they have a sign that says donut in.
I've heard that more than once.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
They don't recommend it. I feel there's person's fault.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Yeah, maybe the big I don't.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Know ownership, but anyhow, you just just be aware that this,
you know, this free to cheap compost is maybe contaminated.
If you have contaminate garden, you gotta be patient. You
gotta wait for that herbicide to break down. The herbicides
control broad leaf weeds like dandelions, so you can grow
broad leaf vegetables. I can grow out of corn, have

(47:38):
a great corn crop. No weed's probably coming out of there,
and onions that will work. You can kind of leach
out the herbicide with water or buffer it by adding wood,
ash and ashes. I would focus more on the water
and all just forget about it. Grow your vegetables and
containers for a couple of years, don't plant a garden,

(47:59):
and then you got to monitor for the presence of
the pesticide to know when it breaks down. So how
do you do that? You do a bio essay test,
A simple one. So I'm gonna get like three to
six pots and I'm gonna film full of potting soil,
and then I'm gonna get three to six pots of
the mixture of this my garden soil and potting soil.

(48:22):
And then our plant is a quick, quick germinating crop
that's sensitive like beans. Okay, I know, let's say I
grow six pots of potting soil. I know they're gonna
be perfect, They're not gonna be all twisted, but I
don't know about the others. See the first the pine
soil is my control treatment. But now the other mixture,

(48:44):
the one pine cel with garden soil, those are the
ones I'm looking at. And if they if they look twisted, still,
I know I can't be using that. Yeah, it's not
ready yet. So that's what you gotta do. And that's
a test you could do this fall, So just just beware.
Another quick thing. I got a picture of this, this

(49:05):
bed of elderberries and the leezro curled, so I said, wow,
that looks like curbside injury. And so where did it
come from? And eyesights it could be spray drift. It
could be contaminated manure. It could be contaminated straw molting,
and they said they just molted the elderberry planting, so
I can't. So it's again that straw grass whippings. It's

(49:29):
a source of herbicides. It's probably gonna outgrow though, but
it's not happy today. That bush. Another common problem. People's
tomatoes are ripening now and they're seeing these brown rots
on the bottom blossom and rot very common on the
first flush of fruits. Sometimes people panic and go, oh,
my guideways, is my crop loss for the year. I'd

(49:49):
say usually no, no, Usually it's the first cluster that's
most affected. And so just pick off the badly pick
off the fruits, and in back the green fruits see
if they got the rot, and pick them off. I mean,
you can eat it. You can trim it off and
eat it if you want. It's a calcium deficiency, it's
not really a pathogen. But nobody wants to eat this.

(50:12):
You don't eat this, hunter then?

Speaker 3 (50:13):
No, not really?

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Yeah, only if I was starving, you know, like on
a survival show, and I want it into a tomato
garden with blossom mend I would eat it then, but
otherwise I just leave it alone and get rid of it,
and also try to keep some wysterre in the soil
because that will help the kelseium flow to the roots
of the tomato plant. We've talked about bloss men around

(50:37):
several times, but now is the time when a lot
of people are seeing it and they're panicking. Don't panic
another thing. The blights on tomatoes are happening now. And
my short answer there, make sure when you water, don't
get the leaves wet because the fungi love wetness. Don't
water in the evening because the leaves stay wet all evening.

(51:00):
And avoid splashing the soil because these diseases start from
the soil and work their way up. Okay, So proper
irrigation is the answer here. Potatoes are blooming, so people say,
is that okay or what's going on? And it's natural.
This is just natural for this plant to bloom and

(51:20):
want to form berries. But for me, when I see this,
I go okay. Now it's a different stage in the
life of the potato. The potato vine now has tubers
underneath in the ground and those tubers are expanding now,
So now is the most important time to keep some
moisture in your potato bed to help our tubers expand.

(51:44):
So as soon as you see blooming for the next
two six weeks, I really want to make sure there's
some moisture there. Otherwise, Also, I'm going to get scab disease,
the number one disease on homegrown home garden tomatoes with
these little kirky lesions on them. Again, these you can
peel them off and eat them, but some moisture when
you see the potato vines bloom really help. Right now, Okay,

(52:07):
what else? One last thing I talked about today is
apples are ripening now, and people I've got some inquiries
about when to tell when your apples are ripe. Okay,
So these these apples are ripe, and so for a
red apple variety. I look at the background color and
you see the how these have primarily a yellowish tinge

(52:29):
to it. Yes, that's a good sign that the apple
fruit is ripe. It's turned from greenish to golden. I
hear these apples there, the background color is still green.
They're not ripe. Okay, that's not ripe. This is ripe.
And the other way I tell if it's ripe. I
look at I go out there and I try to
I try to harvest the apple. Okay, So I'm gonna

(52:51):
do a gentle upward twisting motion and gently gently pull off.
I'll come right off if it's ripe. If it's not,
I started pulling it down, then it's not right. It
doesn't want to come on. And if I pull it down,
I'm ripping off the flower buds from next Yeah, that's
not good. Don't do that. So do an upward twisting motion.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Did your exercise them?

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Yeah, there you go. And I was used to have
an apple bag to put my apple harvest in on
our apple orchard. But you know, upward twisting motion. I'll
come up. Sometimes. If you start seeing apples falling to
the ground, that's also that's a sign that to my man,
you gotta get off the couch.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
About the wasps.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Yeah, well okay, I had that call last week already.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Yeah, wasps and apples, And I said, did your apples
get like any hell damage? Did they have?

Speaker 2 (53:45):
You know, woons?

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Yeah, coddling moth going on? Yep?

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Right, yeah, so well the wasp berg you know, they're
starting to get hungry now and there's a lot of them. Yeah,
their population is exploding. Just start right now. And so
if you have fallen fruits, you know that's there's a
good there's a reason to pick up those fallen fruits.
And one is because they'll aw track was and also

(54:10):
they may have they may have insects inside. They will
try to overwinter underneath the tree. So if you have
fallen fruits, that tells us a couple of things. One
is your fruits maybe right now, and you should pick them.
And the other thing is you should pick them just
for good sanitation.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Get off the couch, right off the.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Couch, right, very much good playing video games so much so,
just every year is different. But here's a couple apple
ripening times. We got the for the State Fear and
the Zesta. They're the earlier ones. There's just starting to
ripen now. In most years, the mid season would be
mid to late September. And here's some sweet sixteen honey

(54:50):
crisp and harrow red. And then our most popular later
ripe later ripening apples include harrels and in the Fireside,
and that's going to be the end of September. It flunctually,
it's a little bit depending on how the warmth of
the season is. Even like on the tree itself, you
can have the outer branches they get more sun, they
ripen faster, or maybe if it's a southern exposure, western exposure,

(55:13):
they'll ripe and quicker. So everything's a little bit different.
But those are some general principles of some of the
most popular apples. And I think we're gonna have a
good harvest this year, very bountiful. I feel positive about it.
I'm a positive type of guy in general, though on
this show only talked about a few diseases.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Today was your orchard from growing up?

Speaker 2 (55:33):
No, No, that's because no, I you know, I just
worked in my orchard. I didn't take pictures in my orchard. Actually,
I was going to show a picture of my family
in the orchard, but it didn't show enough apples. So
we're here to talk about it. Disappointed it, No, it's

(55:53):
my family. Well, I know my wife is precious, you know, Okay,
next week I'm going to show up the picture. I
don't think it was. I had to make a last
minute decision this morning, okay, what to include, and so
you know, you know, when you take a picture of
your family in an orchard, you don't focus on the apples.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Right, right, you focus on your family.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
That's right. So is this a garden show or like
a dating show or you know, a family show. It's
a garden show. So here's a picture of apples.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Family, So okay, I'll show the family next week. Or
we could start a family show. Oh wow, that Kelsey.
It can be a sequel. We can go for that
next there you go, or we could have Hunter. Hunter
can take that initiative.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
I don't really know if that's a my alley.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Thanks for offering.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
She's staying.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
I'll pass.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
So you know, that's all I got. That's a lot.
We covered the last Yeah there man power show, so.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
It was gonna be a good one. It was.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Yeah, of course, you guys, we've got a special guest here.
You know. You know, it's like, thanks for joining our
secret sauce.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
You know, yeah, Oh okay, we're good. We feel good.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
I feel great. You said there's a special show.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Coming up, special show at work?

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Are you going? Is that a secret?

Speaker 1 (57:11):
I don't know? Is it you tell me you're got
a secret? Your co host, you make those decisions. Yes, yes,
we're going to go on a garden tour for our
next one.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
How about that?

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Is it a good good garden tour? It's a good place.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Anybody recently you told me it's great? Okay, Yeah, there's
like one guy that I kind of know it.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
I thought we're not doing a family show.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
See, so now you do have to bring in a
photof or just invite your wife out it.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
There you go. Do you ever want to tell my
nolk and farm and look at all the cool stuff
they're doing out there, all the environmental gardening, and.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
So we'll have a special garden tours place place. Okay,
Well with that, thanks again Hunter for coming off on
the summer, and of course good law as I've told
you issue and all.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
The graduates study for Yeah, thank you. She's been inspired. Yeah,
now she's going on for a horticulture career. Good luck
to you.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
You got Tom's bless her.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
Yeah sounds like I might need it. But there you're
gonna do great.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Oh. I just want to say thank you for joining
us on today's episode, and we're very excited for our
next upcoming episode, and of course we hope that you
will join us in all future episodes.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Dakota Growing is a gardening show brought to you by
Dakota Media Access and NDSU Extension. We discuss a variety
of timely topics pertaining to your landscape, along with giving
you tips and advice for your lawn, garden and trees.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
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Speaker 3 (58:59):
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