VINCENT GENNA: A Psychic Medium Suddenly Contacted by Other Worldly Beings and Extraterrestrials

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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share his first hand contact with the Intergalactic Council and
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my guest. Known as the Visionary of our times, Vincent

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Jenna is an internationally acclaimed psychic therapist, medium, spiritual master,
interstellar liaison and author. Vincent's dynamic and inspiring radio and
television interviews, podcast, keynote presentations, workshops, classes and private sessions
have transformed the lives of thousands worldwide. Diving deep into

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the human psychic he enables a quantum leap in understanding
to uncover and resolve maladaptive beliefs shielded beneath the conscious
mind that are sabotaging the best laid dreams and desires.
And now Vincent offers is forty two years of spiritual
metaphysical and psychological insights in his first book, The Secret

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That's Holding You Back. If you want to learn more
about him, go to Vincentjenna dot com and the last
name is ge Nna Vincentjenna dot com. And with that,
I welcome the character. It's such a character, Vincent Jenna
to dear to dream. It's great to have you.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Oh my gosh, Debbie, it's great to be here. I'm
so excited. I'm excited to be doing this podcast with you,
and I'm so excited to be doing that cruise with you.
It is going to be phenomenal. The energy on that
I don't think the chip will even have to turn
on motors. We're going to be pushing that thing just
with our energy itself.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
For real. You know, we had so I was in
the cruise to the Yucatan last year, and I'll tell
you we had some very interesting things happen. And the
first day we had something unprecedented with the ocean, and
even the people on the ship said, we don't really
know what's going on. We've never seen this. Now, we
had a lot of channels and especially extraterrestrial channels and said, oh,

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there's a ship gliding underneath our ship right now, and
it was phenomenal. So and we have beautiful weather. I mean,
everything's in our favor. I agree, it's going to be amazing.
I can't wait to like hang out with you, have
meals with you, and everyone else who comes.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Oh, absolutely, it's going to be great.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
To be great, and you know, you remind me of home.
I grew up in New York and I feel like going, hey, Vinny.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Hey yo that yeah, you know, you come on over.
We'll have some pasta, you know, bring the whole family.
That's of course, that's New York. What are we going
to do? You know? That's it exactly.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, you can't take it out of us fully, but
I also like that resonance. So here you are. You
wrote the book that I just mentioned. It's called The
Secret That's Holding You Back. So everybody here wants to
become unstopped. What is holding us back? What is it
that you see psychically, mediumship wise, but with all the

(06:07):
groups and the privates that you've had.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Well, the way I wrote my book was from my
own personal experience as well as the experience of working
with all of those people, and what everybody has to
know is that there are anomalies that go on in
the mind and the brain that is actually causing us
to sabotage our own abilities to manifest our desires. And

(06:33):
it's not intentional, but the brain has survival mechanisms in it,
and that's the reason why the species has gone on
as far as it it's gone on. But since we're
spiritual beings, Debbie, the problem is that those coping mechanisms,
those anomalies that help us to cope and get through life,

(06:55):
actually what getting in the way of us manifesting what
we really want because it's hiding, it's hiding important ruths
that we have about ourselves.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Okay, another example.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Okay, well that's hey, Well, I was going to say
that most people don't believe what they think. They believe.
You have your conscious mind and that's the you know,
the intellect and the reasoning in the thinking part of you.
And so you may think that you are good enough
to have a top level job. You may think that

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you're lovable enough to have a wonderful romantic partnership with someone.
You may think all of these wonderful things with your
conscious mind, but unfortunately, beliefs that you have developed from
the very beginning of your life, during your childhood, have
been suppressed and pushed down and hidden in your unconscious mind.

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So you may believe that you're lovable, but truly, down
deep inside, the little you is saying, I'm not lovable,
I'm not good enough. Now why is that important? And
psychologists have known that for years, which is the reason
why they've always done some inner work in the very beginner,
inner child work. Freud did his psychoanalytical work which absolutely

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included childhood work. Right. But even today in contemporary times,
authors like Ecartoli and Depak Chopra and many of them
talk about the hidden beliefs. What are those hidden beliefs,
your original set of beliefs from childhood? Why does that matter? Okay? Great? Psychologically, yeah,

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you get through those, you're going to have a happier life,
and you're going to feel a little bit more calm
and peaceful, without the anxiety, without the depression. Really good. However,
we're more than physical beings. We're spiritual beings, and what
that means is that we're energies and that energy is
plugged into a force, as George Lucas called it in

(09:03):
Star Wars. The force. It's everywhere and we are connected
to it. It's actually the law of attraction. It's actually
a power that comes from the creator of the divine
yahwegh God, whatever you want to call them. At low game,
it doesn't matter it whatever it is to you, there's
still a power and a force that you're connected to.

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So that means that everything you are believing and truly
believing in your inner core, deep down psyche beliefs, is
what's helping to manifest your life. It's influencing it. So
little you who is saying, oh, you're not lovable because
of the experiences you may have gone through, that's what's

(09:45):
going out into the energy, into the law of attraction.
And that's the reason why you may attract a relationship
to you, but it's not going to work. It falls apart,
you break apart, you sabotage it. Even a person in
the relationship may die early because neither one of you

(10:06):
like attracts like. So that are the person who's going
to have that same core belief. So neither one of
you believe that you were lovable, neither one of you
believed it was going to last, and bingo, you make
it fall apart because of that innercore beliefs. Now, you
don't hear that intercore belief because, like I said, the
brain and the anomalies that go on, the brain has

(10:27):
two highest functions, Debbie. The first highest function is to
keep us alive. The second highest function is to protect us.
In order to keep us alive, we know how it
protects us physically. We have the immune system. We also
have things like fevers. The brain actually is what raises
your body temperature when you have a virus or a bug,

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like when the coronavirus came along, to make it an
unlivable environment for that bug and virus. Well, if it
protects us physically, how does it protect us emotionally? When
we have emotional pain. It will create for you a
new set of beliefs to shield and protect you from
those intercore beliefs. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to function.

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You see, the people that don't have that protective mechanism,
they're the ones that feel depression and that a have
anxiety because all day long they're believing I'm not good enough,
I'm not lovable, I'm not deserving from those negative messages
that they receive. So the brain suppresses that pushes it aside,

(11:30):
way down deep. So, like I said, you may be thinking,
I'm lovable, I'm ready for this relationship, I'm ready for
that promotion. I'm ready to be healthy and vital and
get out there. But literally, you are saying no, you're
not You're not good enough, you're not worthy enough. You
don't even deserve good finances or anything like that or

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anything good to happen in your life. And that's what's
manifesting people's lives. That's the secret that's holding everybody back
and have to heal that.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, that's very powerful. Thank you, great example. And you
yourself here. You are an accomplished guy in psychic mediumship,
many other modalities. And then boom extraterrestrials. So out is
your connection with other worldly beings? Come about?

Speaker 2 (12:23):
World? Oh please, Debbie, this is like everything that came
about for me was always trust upon me, just like
my psychic abilities. Okay, so I'm working one day, I
just finished working with a client, and I'm just closing
up shop and getting ready to go have dinner with
my wife, and all of a sudden, I hear a
voice and it says, we would like to speak with

(12:46):
you as clear as that. Now. The first thing I
thought is being a medium, that there's a spirit here
that wants to talk with me. But it wasn't coming
to me the same way. And I was like, but wait,
I don't see a spirit because I can see, I
can hear, I can smell, I can feel spirits. I'm
Claireroll as a medium. I used to use Clairol when

(13:08):
I wanted to get rid of my gray. Now I'm
Claire all because I'm doing it with my work, okay,
But there was no spirit. So I was really concerned
as to all, right, where is this voice coming from
and what is this voice? And so I asked, it's like,
who is this? And the voice immediately introduced itself as

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an intergalactic spiritual council. And I'm like an intergalactic spiritual council,
I said, you do know I didn't watch Star Trek
a lot, so I did watch all the other Star
Trek movies, but not the television show. And I knew
of that intergalactic like anything like that. Well not really,

(13:57):
I said, well, what do you want with me? We
want to educate you on why we've been coming to
your planet, why we've been working with humans and why
we're coming now. I'd said, well, why me. There are
others that you can there talking to several people, but

(14:17):
you are out there, You're already speaking with others, and
you have a more positive understanding and attitude towards us,
so we know you would be able to help us
educate your kind. And I was like, well, okay, I'm

(14:37):
up for it. You just can talk with me at
any time. So they explain then that they are a
Council of seven. That's a group that's talking with me.
And it's really interesting because they said there there's only
twelve universes with life forms, only twelve, so there is

(15:00):
a lot of misunderstanding. And with the information that they
kept giving me as to who these beings are, where
they come from, okay, and why they are here. And
it began very becoming very exciting for me. But I
wasn't able to validate any of this stuff until I

(15:23):
actually was invited to do shows and I was on
Beyond Belief with George Nori and while apparently he wound
up getting or the producer Tommy wound up getting all
these videos. So I would be talking about what they
were telling me and George would then interrupt me and say, hey,
watch this video that we have, and it was some

(15:45):
other expert ufologist who has been in the field longer
than I have, ages ago, right, talking about some of
the same stuff that I was saying, and then another
one and another one. So I was being validated for
what I was hearing, and that's why I trusted the
voice and the information that they've been giving me is

(16:07):
phenomenal and very important for us to understand.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Debbie, there's a lot to unpact there. That is so cool.
So what a beautiful relationship, What a beautiful way that
they came into your life. And yeah, if everything's perfect
you be in a medium, this wouldn't freak you out
like it might somebody else exactly. And so it's funny.
I mean, this is one of the things I do

(16:33):
talk about the history of extraterrestrials, even connected with shamans.
So we know that extraterrestrials have been on this planet
since the beginning of time, seeded this planet. We have
their genetics in our body. But the extraterrestrials coming to

(16:54):
Earth right now? Yes, what is their message through you
to hear humanity?

Speaker 2 (17:01):
What their message is, can I just give it straightforward,
get your act together, or you're going to Hell in
a handbasket. We're on our way there now. It's hysterical
that basically, that's what they're trying to tell us. We
are the least civilized of all existing species and living

(17:26):
specie beings like us. We are the least civilized here
on Earth, and it's taking us so long to evolve
that they're actually breaking the rules now, and that's what
the Intergalactic Council is telling us. The Intergalactic Council set
up actually after the visitations that the extraterrestrials were making here.

(17:51):
They came down a lot, helping us a lot, right,
But then the Council came together and said, you know what,
they shouldn't be visiting you, and they shouldn't be helping
you that way. You have to learn on your own.
It's like, let's say that you have you know, there's
a brother and a sister. The brother res old of

(18:11):
the sister, the little girl, she's younger. Both of them
are going to school at the same time, and they're
home from school one day and they're sitting at the
kitchen table. Mom there is getting Vinta together, and the
big brother looks over and goes to a sister, Hey, Debbie,
the answer to number five is three, okay. And so

(18:31):
mom is listening and he keeps helping her like that,
and Mom turns around and says, hey, Vinny, listen, you
know you have to let your sister learn math on
her own. Otherwise she's never going to learn it. So
you just let her do the answering. Okay, okay. So

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you're sitting there, you're sitting there. Mom leaves the kitchen
because she got a phone call, and now she's out
of the room, and you're going, hey, Debbie, the answer
to number seven is six. Okay. Yeah, right, That's exactly
what happened with the extraterrestrials. There was a time period
that they were stopped, stopped from coming here to visit,

(19:14):
and there is that whole blank time period where there
wasn't a lot of visitation and nobody saw them and
nobody was reporting anything about them. Then all of a sudden,
they started picking up again because they realized, hey, listen,
Mom and Dad, we got to help them down there.
I mean, they're really having a tough time. They're never

(19:36):
going to pass that test, and they're never going to
get things done unless we help them. And that's and
now they're doing it in droves because they're like you see,
you want them to learn on their own, and they're
being left back. Okay, they're still in kindergarten. Okay, so
I'm sorry. They're my brothers and sisters. I love them dearly.

(19:57):
We're going down there to help. Yeah, why they're coming.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yes, I'm tracking one hundred percent with that in mind, Vincent,
So then what kind of guidance? What kind of technology
are the extraterrestrials offering us for meaningful changes? I just
want to preface this also by saying this, Oh yes,

(20:23):
I just want to preface it by saying this that
I know things are bad. We all know things are bad.
We know that there's war, we know there's starvation. We
know there's horrible things happening to women and children. There's
financial inequality, there's crazy greed, you know, countries, corporations, people

(20:43):
who do things. I don't know how anyone lives like that.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
But okay, don't forget all the environmental things and crisis
that are happening, right.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yes, one hundred percent. What the terrible things we do
to this beautiful planet we live on. And there are
also people like you and me and many of the
people watching this, listening to this right now, who are
light workers, who have good hearts, who are doing things
to make a difference, who are healers and psychic and

(21:16):
also have had a lot of extraterrestrial contact and experience.
So there is this interesting duality and we live in
this incredible planet of duality and density. What are they
doing or what are they offering to us as guidance
as technology? So for those of us who will pick

(21:37):
up the guidance and the technology, we can create meaningful changes.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
We are in the process of creating those meaningful changes, Debbie,
and I'm glad that you brought it up that way,
which is really important. I do want to do a comparison, though,
to a story in the Old Testament that will help
us even now, and that is the story of Sodom
and Gomora. The story of Sadom and Gomorra was says
in the Bible about God Who's going to destroy Sodom

(22:06):
and Gomorra because all the sinning that's going on kind
of like what's happening today. All right, However, metaphorically, it
wasn't about God. It was about that power that we're
connected to, right and because of all the negativity, they
were actually the story and the meaning behind it is
about they were destroying themselves. Okay. So now an angel

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comes down, finds Lot, who is a spiritual guy, and
turns around and says, you need to find eleven eleven
spiritual people that have awakened, and God will spare Sodom
and Gomorrah. Basically, what he was saying is you have
the power to stop the self destruction, okay, but you

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need enough people to join together to do that. And
that's actually the concept of critical mass. So we know
the to the story side that Lot could not find
the eleven and then they said, well, if you got nine,
maybe you'll get some earthquakes and stuff, but the whole
city won't be destroyed, okay, And so we couldn't find nine.

(23:13):
And that's when he said, well you better get the
heck out of there, because it's going to hell in
a handbasket, like I said earlier. Okay, so let's relate
that to here. And now, yes, we have the awakening
happening and the extraterrestrial brothers and sisters are coming down
and helping that because people are so fascinated, they've become

(23:35):
so into making these connections. I have a dear friend,
Christopher Bledsoe Senior. He's the most known person in having
ET contact. And they are his angels. He called them
his angels, and they are the light beings when you
see orbs coming out of the sky, those are the

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spiritual light beings that are physical because they do live physically,
but they know how to transfigure into their light being.
This which is what Jesus did after he died. He
went to Egypt to learn how to do that, because
that's where it was all written, that's where the extraterretrials
first taught people how to do it. Jesus went there

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and learned how to do it, came back, died three
days later, transfigured, took his body with him, and also
showed everybody his life being. So all these ords are
them coming down and we are starting to awaken and
through our interest, our soul's going. There's something that resonates here.

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There's something that's drawing me to want to know more
about my ET brothers and sisters. And so there's programs
like people are doing skywatching. They'll go also to Chris's
place or wherever he is, all right, and he puts
thousands of people come together and he makes them pray
and sit in meditation. Okay. Doctor Steve Greer has a

(25:01):
CE five protocol and it involves meditating and keeping yourself
in a positive spiritual mind. Okay. And then we have
people like Jake Barber, who is a whistleblower who used
to collect down extraterrestrial crafts for the government to actually

(25:24):
collect them. And one of the times that he was
doing that, he had an experience where he connected with
one of those ET's and it was so spiritual. He cried,
He felt loved, he felt this purity, he felt this beauty.
So because they're coming down, they're helping to awaken us,
how is that going to help us right now? Debbie?

(25:46):
We do not have a critical mass. We don't have
eleven people awakened yet proportionately, because we're still seeing the
destruction on this planet. So when I said environmentally, yes,
we're seeing all the killing and the stuff. So just
think of that. That's what the Sodomengamora people were doing.

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They were killing each other, having sex with anybody all
of that stuff that was going on, we're just doing
it the same way and differently. Now, So how would
the destruction come on the planet would come by the earthquakes,
the storms, the fires, right, the floods and all of that. Well,
that's what's happening to our planet. Almost daily, there is

(26:29):
a new crisis that's happening. So the way we see
whether the critical mass is being reached is when that
slows down, when these prices on the Earth stop, and
then as we're awakening, we're also filtering that into everybody's
energy pool. And then they'll be those people will say, Okay,

(26:52):
I'm tired of barming. I'm not going to bomb anymore.
Let's just stuff that. This is ridiculous. We're not getting anywhere,
and I mean it sounds crazy. And yes, there's still
these people in organizations that believe we got to form
these retaliatory groups and we have to defend ourselves and
we have to be against this. But the other side

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that are for the peace and for the love and
for caring and for compassion and for standing up for
human values, they're creating. We're creating that healing of the
world that even the crews that we're doing. It's yes,
we're going to the most ancient, incredible, vibrational places. Why

(27:38):
why do we need to do that? Because we need
to be reminded of how divine we really are and reconnect.
And that's even with the leaders you me, we still
want that connection. We're so drawn to it. And I
can almost promise you there'll be some ets there as well,
because I can bring people out and I can help

(27:59):
call them in as well as well as you right,
because we've made those connections and we will feel even
that much more empowered when you see an ET. Here's
the thing. So we think it's just us on the planet.
We think with just physical beings, but now all of
a sudden, something else is coming from someplace. Elf. Well,

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it's changing everybody's view of life, and it's changing the
view of life. It's changing the view of yourself. And
then you're seeing these orbs and wait a minute, you
mean they're transfiguring into Then that means that we got flesh.
We had flesh like they had flesh and stuff. So
if they're doing it, then we could do it. You know,

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when you see your big brother and sister, that's advancing.
When you see that person achieving their dreams. When you
see people gaining that financial freedom, that's what gives us
an understanding that we can do it too. Now we're
going to do it on a higher level. So technically
we actually don't even have to pay attention to technology technology.

(29:04):
We've been way ahead in technology. Albert Einstein said, though,
when your technology far surpasses your spiritual ability you use it,
you're going to be in trouble. And that's exactly where
we are right now. We have so much technology that
we don't even have to be anywhere near a country
in order to completely destroy it, all right, So we

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just push a button, Boom, there they're gone, and that's it.
And we do that in so many different ways. But
now we're starting to pick up that spiritual understanding, and
the ets are helping us. They're going to teach us
how to even transform, how to see our own light,
and how to stop thinking that this physical body is

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the most important thing. No it's not. It's a vehicle.
It is the least important part of who you are.
The most important part of who you are is your soul,
your light, your energy, your divinity, and that goes beyond
this body.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
That's so beautiful. Thank you. That was such a good example,
and I love you bringing it back to the eleven people,
the critical mass, what needs to happen, and so you know,
I always want people to keep hope because I think
when you're a light worker and you're sort of swimming upstream,
it's really important to have a light and to know

(30:28):
what I'm doing is creating a difference. So I just
want to say to everybody, like really powerful example, and
not so much. We need to do more, but we
need to keep shining a light. And I tell that
to people. Some people will say, oh, you know, I
got so depressed or I just got so sad, And
that's cool. Do that for a day, but you have

(30:49):
to come right back to why you're here, why you
chose to be here right now. It is so important
your soul, your mission, your gift, your piece of the
puzzle to heaven on earth. Don't stop and talk more,
get more people.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Involved's that, But that is a certain amount of work,
you know. You know, people will work so hard at
achieving certain things. Oh, at their job, at their home,
or I got to expand it, I got to put
in a new pool and everything like that. Oh, I'm
going to work at getting the car that I want. Oh,

(31:27):
I'm going to work, you know, at this, and I'm
going to work at that. And they're not realizing that
the work is truly more about self work and self love.
We've been damaged. Even though everybody who's listening right now
who is an advanced light worker has scars. I can

(31:48):
promise you they have scars because there's been this is
there's no Brady Bunch family here, and there's nobody who
can turn around and say, oh, my childhood was absolutely perfect.
It's so funny because when I work with those light workers,
I work with the advanced as well as the beginners, right,
and I work with the light workers, and all I

(32:08):
have to ask him is, okay, so, as a light worker,
you're manifesting every single thing that you want in your life, right,
all the great? Well no, no, no, I'm single. I
don't have a relationship that would be nice. Oh okay, okay, okay,
all right, you're a light worker. Obviously, then this something
still inside us. There's something that still needs to be

(32:32):
taken care of or at least paid attention to, because
you did do the work. Every injury causes a scar, Debbie.
A matter of fact, my second book that I just
completed and it's in editing right now, is called Stay Strong,
All Your Scars Can be Healed. And Neil Donald Walsh
wrote me the forward for it. It was him who

(32:52):
actually guided me and told me to write that book
because he received a message from God that I should.
I interviewed him in the podcas it was amazing, Okay,
so I said, okay, so I wrote the book. Yes,
your scars can be healed, but you've got to recognize
that you still have them. You still have them, so
any of us, right. So we're working on that, and

(33:15):
as we're working on it, we're receiving all this is
this incredible help and this incredible guidance and the energy
from each other and the support from each other. You know,
if we didn't have that work, we would really have
no reason to be here. The work that we do

(33:36):
on ourselves provides us with relationship, provides us with self
pride and joy that we've accomplished some really great things.
The people, the thousands of people that I've ever worked with,
when they contact me and they say, my life has

(33:58):
changed and transformed so incredibly. I'm experiencing so much joy
and fulfillment, and all of a sudden, I find myself
talking and helping other people, and I'm like, there, you
got it, that's exactly what happens. And then it dominoes
down the line. But yes, we are awakening now and

(34:23):
this is a great time period. But I do want
to state this for everybody, because this is a pet
peeve of mine, all right, And it's not to ever
put anybody's opinion down, especially another light worker's opinion. But
we still have to remember that all this information, including

(34:43):
in myself that's downloading, is still being filtered through our
own minds. Our minds are the filters of everything we receive,
which is one of the reasons why things can be misinterpreted. Right,
It's not that we're ever seeing anything. We can't see
anything pure while we're in this body. We can only

(35:03):
see purity when we're at that pure energy like form,
which is the soul, when we're out of the body.
But in the body, you're going to have a filtration system.
There is a lot of belief that this new world,
this new life, is going to happen automatically, automatically, and

(35:28):
that we're moving in that direction, and oh, everybody's so
excited they can't wait till it happens. All right, we
have absolutely the capability of making everything beautiful and wonderful.
That's who we are. We're divine beings and co creators. However,
because of free will and because of choices, there's no

(35:52):
guarantee for anything. It's in our hands to make that happen,
and we don't need trauma to learn how to make
it happen. We've had enough. I just had a conversation
with somebody just the other day that was talking about, Oh,

(36:12):
every time we've had trauma, we've turned out even better.
I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, the trauma did not
make us turn out better. Our souls and inner wisdom
allowed us to put things together to make the trauma

(36:32):
turn into something good. The trauma did not do it. Therefore,
the trauma is not the catalyst to our evolvement. We
do not need suffering. I am really tired of hearing
that we do not need suffering. Debbie, We've had enough

(36:54):
to know what it feels like, So why do.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
We have on Earth? Is like, this is not an
easy place. This is a very dense place. I agree
with you one hundred percent, and I think it's in
a lot of culture. It's in a lot of history
of war and history of what we've done to other people,
and that there's a feeling that this has to happen
in order to progress. I agree with you one thousand percent.

(37:18):
Everything you're saying very good and I want to ask
you if you want to at this point, Vincent, you
had said before the show that you would do a reading,
and I would love to know if this is a
good time to do a reading.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Okay, I am willing to do a reading. What would
you like me to do a reading on?

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Yes, So, since we're on this topic and we both
enjoy this topic, how about me Because I'm not going
to call in a listener right now, but if you
don't mind doing me. Have I had any past or
ongoing contact with extraterrestrials, perhaps even beyond my conscious awareness,
and if you could give some.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Details on that, Okay, I can tell you, as a
from a little girl, right from the get go, you
have been observed. You have been watched because of your plan,
Because of your plan. You came down here with a
plan to make a big difference in the world, which

(38:22):
is why you've always been guided and directed into areas
that was going to put you out there publicly. You
even told me yourself you were an actress. Right. I
see from the beginning, as a little girl, you're laying
in a bed. And when you were younger, was there

(38:43):
more than one bed in your room? Were you either
sleeping with somebody else or in another room? I don't
see a solo room for you in the very beginning.
What was that about?

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yeah, I was, I had my own bedroom. The only
time I didn't have my own bedroom was when my
brother and I stayed at my grandparents' house, which was
a considerable amount, and then both of our beds were
together with same room.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Okay, okay, so then you were in the same room together.
But it's when you were home that you had your
own room. Okay. So then I will tell you this
at your grandmother's. At your grandmother's because I do see
that second bed in the room. Okay, I'm watching, and
they're telling me that there was an extra terrestrial spirit

(39:36):
that was right outside the window. Did not want to
come into the room, but right away was outside your window.
Now I'm not sure if you felt, but I'm feeling
that there was some part of you, whether it was
in your dream, whether it was in a feeling or whatever,
that there was an energy, that there was something about

(40:00):
being at your grandparents, about them. They may have, even
in the beginning, had some kind of a fear, though
I'm not feeling the fear as much as I'm feeling
the intrigue. You were very intrigued about things as a child,
and so I'm finding that this energy they're showing me,
this whole vision of watching you and just being a

(40:25):
part of you. Now, they didn't do anything like abduct
you or anything like that. They didn't and well not yet. Okay,
we'll talk about that in a moment. They didn't abduct you.
Then they didn't insert any probe been you. They didn't
have to do that with everybody. They only did that
with beings that they actually got genetic material from that

(40:49):
they were trying to preserve and study about our human
bodies to help us, only to help us. But they
didn't abduct you that way. But they did watch over you.
So so at times when you thought that there was
an angel watching over your shoulder, it was not an angel.
It was an et And I know you felt that.
Isn't that correct?

Speaker 1 (41:10):
Oh my god, I know it more as an adult
looking back, I've said that so many times I was
not alone. I was not alone.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
There's no way I got it exactly. And the reason
for that is because you've got to understand that when
we're all back on the other side, outside of our
bodies and in the heavenly dimensions, so are they. There's
no heavenly dimensions for Ets or Palladians or you know,

(41:40):
any of the other ones. And then us. It's one place,
and so all those souls are together and come together.
So they know us already, and so especially us since
they've been watching us since the beginning of time. They're
paying attention to all of us. They're paying attention especially
to those who are going to make a difference. So, yes,

(42:00):
there were times that you had angels. But I will
tell you this, it started very young then, when you
were a teenager. I'm jumping to an experience that you
may have had. And again, either a light form, because
as you've gotten older, they won't come to you in
just a physical form and go, hey, Debbie, we're here.

(42:23):
You know, just want to let say hi. You know
I'm not seeing that as much as lights and again energy,
but there was definitely this this beings that were around you. Again, Now,
as a teenager, what experience did you have where what
they were telling me, you could have been injured or

(42:44):
hurt or harmed in some way or there was a
threat of harm. Okay, but something kind of interfered or
became a guidance again in protecting you in some way
that kept you from serious either injury or harm. What
happened then that you can say so much.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
I was absolutely wild. I grew up on Long Island
and there was no fear of death. I would drive
way faster than any humans should drive. I would do
a lot of altering things and be in a lot
of crazy situations, and it is amazing I made it

(43:30):
out intact.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
No, Yeah, you definitely had the help in that. Again,
you got to realize. You got to realize when they're
watching over certain people, there is a reason why they're watching.
They want to help guide us. Yes, they love us,
they know what our plan is. But then when we
are acting up and we are getting ourselves involved in

(43:52):
situations that can get in the way of our plans,
that's when they're really going to help us a lot.
While you have an angel on one shoulder, you're having
an e T on another shoulder. Okay, your interest in
extraterrestrials came easy, and I don't believe it was a hard, shocking,
kind of scary, frightening kind of interest because of this involvement.

(44:17):
From the very beginning, it came to you like it
was very familiar. Is what I'm feeling inside of you.
That it was a very familiar knowing feeling. When you
started paying more attention to it, there was a time
period where you shifted your concentration and your focus. There
was a spiritual awakening, and there was an event that

(44:40):
went on again. There were several events that transformed and
changed your life. But the greatest thing is that you
went with it. But they were always there, kind of
going and shifting. Is this is what I'm seeing that
they're telling me. So I got archangel Michael on one side,
and I've got an extra terretory on the other side,
and they're talking to each other and say, Okay, you're

(45:00):
going to take her now, Okay, give me a break.
I gotta go pee, and and and the end and
et is going off somewhere and Michael's there. I'm watching
I got her, I got it back. And then he
comes back, and you know, the ET comes back and goes, Okay,
I got it. You can go take care of you.
Holy cow, they're fighting down there. You got a whole
battle you got to take care of. Go take care
of those idiots down there. And so that's kind of

(45:22):
what I'm feeling that they're showing me that there was
a shifting between them in helping you. And here is
the thing that Archangel Michael is saying that the ETS
are saying, too obstinence, obstinence obstinates. You had so much
obstinence in your stubborn Yes, stubborn, you were stubborn, but

(45:45):
it was your intensity and your passion reversed. When you
got on the right track, this same stubbornness and obstinence
and intensity shifted to passion. And that passion it totally
inspired you. It was the energy that we needed. But
until we really grow, and until something happens, and until

(46:06):
we you know, go wake up like everybody trying to
do with everybody, it becomes it could be an issue.
It could get in our way, It could close our wildness.
As wild as you are is how much passion that
you had, and so now you're using and you've been
using that passion to achieve and do all of these

(46:26):
wonderful things out there, and they're so proud of you.
But do allow yourself the visitation because they want to
come and say hello.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
I would love that. Do you know what species you're
talking about?

Speaker 2 (46:42):
It doesn't matter what species they are, They're all several
from different species. And Okay, I have to explain something
else that's also going to blow the listener's minds and
maybe even possibly yours. All. Right, in our universe, including
Pleiades and any of the other planets and stars that

(47:04):
are here, there is no other living being here. This
entire universe is ours. What the Palladians are is think
about this. It's the ets from other universes in their
early evolvement, when they first came down here on the planet.

(47:28):
Could you imagine if they came down as little grays
or as some of the other taller species that look
like that, we would have freaked and not listened to them.
We would have done everything we could to kill them,
destroy them, because that's who we are. But they came
down instead, in their early form because they're able to

(47:50):
do that. If they can transfigure themselves into light, they
can also transfigure themselves back to what they used to
look like. So they came as they their early selves.
And these beautiful Arturians it doesn't matter or oh gosh,
they constantly we're being taught all of these new you know,

(48:13):
beings and species when what we have to understand their
their different levels of their own involvement to help us
accept them easier. These beautiful blondes that look like they
come from Sweden, okay, with the blue eyes and everything. Right,
they're even in the Lord of the Rings, they're the yelves.
They're gorgeous. Right, It's like, right, why did we do that?

(48:35):
Why did we create that? Because it's easier for us.
That's why we made Jesus look beautiful with blue whys
he was Jewish, Okay, with Jewish, he had a big nose.
They wanted him to do no surgery, but he said no,
I got to accept it. So he didn't go for it. Okay,
Oh you know. It was his peacefulness, it was his lovingness,

(48:56):
you know, that made them. We need beauty here. So
of course, if the aliens came down looking beautiful so
that they could guide us. But they aren't from here.
They're not from here. So you have got the advanced
in their regular form. Now when they're in physical advancement,
they are the ones that are seeing you, and they
want you because you are so comfortable with Pleiades and

(49:21):
the Palladians or the Arturians or any of the other species.
They want you to broaden now your ability to see
them as they truly are, which is why they're introducing
themselves so slowly, because we still have horrible time seeing them.

(49:42):
People freak out the moment we see them because they
look so different from us. Big heads, big eyes. We
think that rays are going to come out and destroy
us from their eyes. It's ridiculous. And what do we
do in movies. We make them into spiders. We make
them into these horrible, ugly atrocities. They're like freaking out
going they're watching the movies, you know, with they eating

(50:04):
the pop They don't eat the popcorn. They drink it. Actually,
they don't chew anymore. So they're sitting there drinking the
popcorn and they're looking and they're going, hey, Mary, come
on over here. You gotta see how they make you look. Now,
this is great. You know, you do look like that
when you get mad. And it's like they tone they're
beautiful beings. But if you accept them and you can

(50:26):
see them as they truly are and say bring it on,
I have a hard time. Right they try to come.
They I told them, don't come in the middle of
the night.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Way for sure. That's the scariest.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Yes, it scares the crop out of us. I had
two of them. They were the tall, tall beings, right,
And in my new home, I happen to have eight
foot doorways in all my doors, so where I'm sleeping
and all of a sudden something stirs me and wakes
me up a bit. I'm still like sleepy, groggy, right,
and I look in the doorway and there's two of

(51:04):
them standing there, and I start chicking. And you know
when you do that yelling and you can't yell because
you're in a paralytic state. That's why you can't yell.
But your mown loud enough. And my wife is like
reaching over, wake up, wake up, and I'm like, they
took off. They took off right away, And I feel
so bad because I've been telling them I do want

(51:27):
to see you, but do me a favor. You know,
when it's two o'clock in the afternoon, I'm sitting down,
I'm having my cookies and milk. Come join me then,
you know, but do a little knock on the door.
The door go bark. It's okay, I'll get them in
the kennel. You can come in. We'll sit down. I'll
share you my you know, my my chip's ahoy or whatever.

(51:50):
I'm eating. Oh better yet, I'm eating hummus. Okay, I
eat healthily too. Okay, so my hummus and my chips
and my Peterborough, you know, come then. But if they
come knocking on the door or you know, the nighbors
are going to freak out. You know, they can't just land.
They're trying to. They're doing that in places where it's

(52:12):
more acceptable.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
I want it. I just want to say, point blank,
I want it. I appreciate it, and I get it,
and I'm I'm cool. I think for me, energy is
everything anyway, So if their energy feels very benevolent and peaceful,
I will immediately be accepting. But I would love to

(52:35):
meet them.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Love you are going to I will tell you this
that you have met them, But forgot. And here is
where I was going to say before you, there is
a memory inside your mind that I'm seeing of light.

(52:56):
You may not have a complete focus of what was
in your surroundings, but there was great light around you.
And you are in a craft. You are in a craft,
and I'm seeing that, and you're just kind of like

(53:17):
in a slight shock, right, And the only reason they
did not bring you there to experiment on you. Again,
We're trying to slowly introduce you to who they are,
and more importantly, who you are. You are actually a
link in a connection and have had. You're not from

(53:38):
another I will tell you that. That's another fallacy. By
the way, nobody in this physical life has ever incarnated
on another planet. There's a law that this allows that,
just like the law of attraction, because if you're here
and you have all this kind of here, they don't
want you bringing your baggage to another universe and giving

(53:59):
problems over there. Not to mention all the bacteria we
carry with us. We can kill a whole universe with that.
That's why they die here if they stay too long here,
because they can no longer deal with our bugs. They
web past that in their universes and their planets. They
don't have the same kind of bacteria and illnesses and
stuff that we have. They've learned how to change that.

(54:22):
They're all spiritual, and Albert Einstein said, the only way
that we can accept and see visitation from other forms
and universes is because they have command of spiritual concepts,
and that's why they're able to leave their universe. Right now,
our government is in the process of building an intergalactic

(54:47):
craft and they are reverse engineering some of the crafts
that they have gotten. They're getting some ideas even though
they don't know reverse polarity and how to use the
gravitational pull. That was another thing they told me, And
then there was a scientific report on how they actually
discovered that they're using gravity in some way, and I'm like,

(55:11):
oh my god, they were right. They told me that
that's what they do. They can reverse polarity instantaneously. They
also can become part of their ship mentally and control
it mentally, and they can also de materialize. All those
concepts are quantum physic concepts, and quantum physics, believe it
or not, as a spiritual science because they're studying the

(55:34):
space between the atoms and the protons and the electrons
and the neutrons, because there's more space than there is solidarity.
So they're looking at that and that's a spiritual understanding,
and that's why these beings are all benevolent. There's no
malevolent species whatsoever. But they do want to introduce you

(55:56):
to that because you're going to be more involved in
it in your future in the coming years. In twenty
twenty six, I see you more involved with contact in
the desert with the people there, with that ufology. The again,
the political stuff and the governmental stuff is not important.

(56:16):
It's actually distracting us and distracting us from really paying
attention to what is important. So more people you're going
to see that come into your life. They already have,
even your guests or anybody like that. You're going to
come with the up against and not up against. With
these people. The opportunity and the networking is going to
occur all because this was your path, and that's why

(56:39):
they kept introducing themselves to you from the very beginning.
That's what I'm seeing. That's what i'm seeing now, So
do not be surprised that it happened soon, maybe even
before I see you on the cruise. You'll be telling
me you're not going to believe what happened. One night,
I was going to sleep, and all of a sudden,
there they are in my dream and I saw them
and I felt them, and I knew they were there

(57:00):
in the room, and I thought, so they will make
themselves known as long as you are asking for it
and feel totally comfortable receiving it. That's I don't want
to hurt us.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
I believe that all of that so beautiful, so beautiful.
Thank you for that information. I really receive it. And
I have met them in my dreams. They've absolutely come
and they are light beings, that pure light. I mean,
I don't know how to describe what I saw I
felt because it's not from this world, but I knew
I was seen and loved and known, and it was

(57:37):
it was almost as beautiful. It was maybe more beautiful
than a flying dream. And you know how you have
one of those and you're like, I want another, I
want another, And I felt that way. I wanted more
and more of this connection. So yeah, that's great man, that.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Was getting it news.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Thank you so much. I love doing that with you,
and I love that you could even feel something that
like instead of like, what's gonna happen with my career?
What's gonna you know, all those questions. But that was
really cool, super right on, I want to ask you, well,
you are speaking on the Mystery School at Sea crewse.
I also want you to tell us what's next. You've

(58:17):
got this new book, congratulations.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Thank you coming out.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
That's awesome. What else? What's next? How do people work
with you? How do they connect with you?

Speaker 2 (58:26):
All they have to do is go to my website
at Vincentjenna dot com. That's where all my connecting to,
all my social media links are. You can find me
on all of the social media links except TikTok. I
have a couple of videos on TikTok, but they were
a little bit funny. But I also have my podcast,
The Jena Effect, which I have several several podcasts on there.

(58:49):
I haven't been recording as much lately because I've been
busy writing the book and doing so many other things
and I'm creating. I do a lot of things with
my family as well, Debbie, because I want to be
able to enjoy my life. So yes, I have these
things coming up and events that will be down the line.
And coming up for me in twenty twenty six, because

(59:11):
I already have this year filled out and so people
will you can sign up get my newsletter. I don't
inundate you with a whole bunch of newsletters, but I
do talk about my events. Actually, the first weekend of August,
I'm really excited at a new event called the PSI
International Games. And hake Misla created incredible, use, amazing, beautiful soul.

(59:40):
And he happens to live next door and is a
friend of Christopher Bledsoe. That's how I wound up meeting him.
So so we're doing this event where we're bringing together
kids as well as adults who have psychic ability, but
we're helping them learn how to use it. And what
better way to help them learn how to use it?

(01:00:00):
Then in games there's actual competition that's going to be
going on to help focus them, because look, get a
team in front of the TV with Fortnite and gas
going right, So, now how do you do that and
how do you help him honor and appreciate his psychic abilities? Well,
this is such a program and now I'm not advertising

(01:00:23):
it for people to buy tickets because it's completely sold out.
But I'm just so excited that I'm one of the
speakers there and we'll be presenting the first program in
the morning. Actually that's going to be about opening up
your intuition. So those are the things. I got a
lot of classes. Oh, you got to look for me
in the SHIFT network because I'm going to be teaching

(01:00:43):
a seven week class through them from April in April on.
So that's another thing because I love educating and i
love helping people that way. So there's many ways to
reach me as well as my private readings. I've been
stacked up with that. I still do my podcast like
next Lettle Soul and Jefma and Inspiration Nation and your podcast,

(01:01:05):
all of these wonderful podcasts. So I'm out there. The
information is out there. Go listen, Go listen to me,
Go listen to others, keep listening to Debbie, keep getting out,
because that's what's going to not just awaken. Even if
you are awakened, you still need reinforcement. There's still negativity
going on in the world and that's all falling down

(01:01:26):
on us. We have to constantly reinforce, refuel. You can't
drive your car forever unless you fill it up. With
gas or plug it into get recharged. Everything needs recharging,
and so we have to remember that. And by listening
and those that that's a meditation, listening to your podcast
is actually a meditation because it helps you open up,

(01:01:48):
It helps you focus in a different way, and that
is by passing your left bring thinking, you're just letting
the information come in and you're absorbing it and feeling.
It's like a meditation. So doing these things are so helpful,
and so yes, you can connect with me all those
ways and keep moving forward.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Beautiful folks, if you want to join us, if you
want to hear us speak, also Vivian Shave, Debbie Solaris.
There's so many big folks. You just have to check
out the website to see all the beautiful names of
the presenters. Come with us on the ship to Greece,
to Turkey, to these very ancient places and get to

(01:02:29):
hang out with us. It's a very different event than
the usual events where it's in and out. You can't
even get to the speaker. No, you'll have full access.
So we love to meet you and Mystery School at
c SCA dot com. Sign up there. All you have
to do is leave a deposit, Vincent's website, Vincent Jenna
g E n NA dot com, Vincent Paisano, thank you

(01:02:53):
so much for coming on the show today. I have
enjoyed this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Oh my god, Debbie, thank you so much. It was
it was a joy and a blessing to be here.
And I can't wait. And just so that everybody knows
that cruise is so affordable for what you're going to
be experiencing. It's amazing and I just can't wait to
see you in person because through the zoom you get

(01:03:19):
one energy, but in person you get the full energy,
and it's unbelievable. I'm looking forward to that. Thank you
for having me, Debbie.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Beautifully said, really beautifully said. I end today's show with
this reminder. The moment you open your mind to the cosmos,
you open your soul to infinite possibility. The truth is
out there, but it's also within you. Subscribe to this
number one transformation conversation, Dare to Dream with Debbie Dashinger.

(01:03:53):
Leave a comment and share. I read them and I
appreciate you. Next week on the show, I'm speaking with
the amazing Tyler Ellison. He's back for a second time
and he is a cosmic channel for the extraterrestrial being
named Ryo of the Soisani. Thanks for daring to dream

(01:04:14):
and remember, do the inner work and keep moving forward.
You came here for a reason.

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