February 10, 2024 • 30 mins
During 1989, three unrelated African American baby boys went missing under mysterious circumstances from New York. Andre Bryant, a one month old baby boy disappeared from Brooklyn, and his mother, Monique Rivera was found murdered the next day. He has never been located. Christopher Dansby, a 2-year-old baby boy went missing from a park located near the Martin Luther King, Jr. apartment complex in May 1989. Three months after Christopher went missing, 18-month-old Shane Walker went missing from this same park under eerily similar circumstances. Sources International Missing Persons Wiki The Charley Project Uncovered Unsolved Mysteries WikiUncovered Unsolved Mysteries WikiUncovered
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Hello, listeners, and welcome backto another episode of its Crime Time.
While I know that many listeners oftrue crime are more interested and solved cases,
I've always been intrigued by missing personscases, and lately that's kind of
what I've been researching. I findit so unfathomable to think that people just
vanish and they're never heard from again. It's actually a very terrifying thought.
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I apologize for this episode being horrendouslylate. I've been very sick the past
few weeks and so my voice isa little rough, but I finally feel
good enough to record, so onthis episode, I've chosen to discuss the
missing person's cases of Andre Bryant,Christopher Dansby, and Chane Walker. All
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Right, everyone, it's crime Time. Three of these cases equally hurt my
heart, and while the first oneseems very obvious, it still hasn't been
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solved. Andre Bryant was born onFebruary seventeenth, nineteen eighty nine, and
he was only a month old atthe time of his disappearance. His mother,
twenty two year old Monique Rivera,had been walking with all three of
her children in Brooklyn, New York, when she was approached by two women.
It was believed that Monique may haveknown these two women, maybe from
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a while back, you know,in middle school or something. And one
reason I believe Monique may have atleast been familiar with the identities of the
two women as well is that shelet them hold Andrea. So I'm not
a mom, but if I wasand two strange ladies came up to me
that I didn't know, and second, we hold your one month old baby,
I probably would be wary of themand I wouldn't allow it right away.
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So she allowed them, and shefelt comfortable enough to accept their offer
when they invited her and her threechildren to mc donald's nearby. So the
two women, Monique and her threechildren ate a McDonald's and the two women
asked Monique if she wanted to goshopping with them, So, of course,
the Monique said, sure, youknow, we're already out, let's
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go shopping. So they went tothe mall and Monique had been buying her
own items and things at the mallwith you know, her own money,
But then the two women decided theywanted to buy her an outfit, so
they bought her pants and a shirt, and then they dropped her and her
children off at home. It's beennoted that Monique told her husband Timothy Bryant
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that she believed the two women hadbeen using a fraudulent credit card to take
her shopping and purchase the items.And I'm not exactly sure how she gathered
this, but maybe the women werebragging about it, you know, talking
about how easy it was to stealcredit cards and spend them on, you
know, things for themselves. SoMonique obviously had her reservations about these women
because she had mentioned this to herhusband Timothy, but she she decided to
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go shopping with the two women againthe next day. On March twenty ninth,
nineteen eighty nine, Monique's sister inlaw, Patricia, offered to watch
all of the three children, butshe actually ended up only babysitting two of
them because as soon as the women, I guess it's all Andrea, and
they were just you know, fawningover him and saying how cute this baby
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was and everything. They decided thenext shopping trip that Monique could bring Andrea
along, So instead of leaving allthree of her children with Patricia, she
decided to take Andrea. Now,I would be very wary of this too,
in the fact that these two womendidn't invite me and all three of
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my children. They told me,you know, instead of coming alone,
why don't you bring your baby?And it's like, I don't know,
I just feel like that's very oddbecause the baby, out of all of
the children, would have been theone that required obviously the most care and
attention, and while they were outshopping, so why not just enjoy a
shopping trip without their kids, youknow, since Monique's sister in law offered
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to watch all of them. ButMonique did go with the women, and
she did take Andrea. But thistime the women weren't going to be picking
Monique up from her apartment. Theycalled her from a payphone around the corner
and had Monique meet them there.This is also a red flag that stands
out to me. Why they didn'twant to be seen near her apartment so
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they picked her up around the corner. Andrea and Monique and they were last
seen getting into the woman's car attwo o'clock PM that night. At around
ten o'clock PM, Monique's husband,Timothy started calling family members and the police
to ask about the whereabouts of Moniqueand Andre, because an eight hour shopping
trip. Having a one month holdout on an eight hour shopping trip for
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clothes and stuff just didn't seem youknow, it didn't seem like something that
moniqu would do. And so Timothywas calling family members and he finally contacted
the police, and I guess atthat point the police hadn't gotten any information
and Timothy hadn't gotten any information either. So the next morning, on March
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thirtieth, nineteen eighty nine, Monique'sbody was found in the woods by east
Chester Bay and the Bronx. Shehad been strangled with the scarf. She
suffered a blow to the head.She had broken fingernails and other defensive wounds.
There were no signs of baby Andre. However, in this case seems
very obvious and I do believe thetwo women had an ulterior motive to murder
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Monique and to kidnap Andre, maybeto have them have him for their own
or to sell him, you know, to people that wanted children that maybe
couldn't get them legally. Maybe theywere selling them for drug money. There's
various reasons on why somebody would,you know, kidnap a baby and sell
the baby kill the mother, sothe police did believe that the two women
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were responsible for Monique's death and thedisappearance of Andre. Both women were African
American. They were around five feetseven inches tall. One had red hair
and she was around twenty two yearsold. The other was kind of a
heavyset woman who was around forty yearsold. And the two women drove a
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nineteen eighty eight or a nineteen eightynine Burgundy Pontiac Grand Damn Sports Edition with
tinid windows and possible Maryland license plates. And despite having a description of the
two women and the vehicle and policebelieving that they definitely had to be responsible
for this, the two women havenever been identified. So they've never been
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identified, they've never been found,they've never been spoken to, and this
case still remains unsolved today. Thisnext case has been said to have had
a possible connection to Andre's case,even though the circumstances are different. For
Moultain. Dansby was born on Marchthirtieth, nineteen eighty seven, to parents
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Milton West Scott Robbins, and AlisonDansby in Manhattan, New York. Chris
was affectionately known as chew chew Byhis family. Alison, her mother,
Elizabeth Manley, Alison's siblings, andher cousins all lived in the same apartment
complex building in the Martin Luther KingJunior Towers Complex in Central Manhattan, New
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York. So Chris's father lived allthe way in Florida at this time,
so he was being raised by hismother. During the nineteen eighties, this
particular area in New York was apretty rough area. It was a time
in which robbery's, assaults and violentcrimes were very common. There was also
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a large population of those addicted todrugs living on the streets in the area.
Police Inspector Ken Lindall arrived in theHarlem area in nineteen eighty nine and
said it was a tough and veryviolent place, but there was just a
lot of hardworking people living there justtrying to survive, and Alison and her
family were doing the same. Innineteen eighty nine, Alison was twenty six
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years old and had two sons,three year old Levon and two year old
Christopher. Levon's nickname was Poncho andChristopher's, as I've mentioned, was Choo
Choo. Christopher's aunt says he wasvery attached to her, but also his
mom. He was so attached tohis mom that he would not go with
just anyone, and he was verycautious when it came to anyone who wasn't
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his mom. By the age oftwo, Christopher was talking a little bit
and loved to cuddle. He wouldsay things like lavon and Mama. His
face would light up when he wouldsee his mother walk in the room.
Chriscopher loved being outside, and heand Alison would sit outside on the bench
at the complex and then they wouldwalk to the park, which was actually
part of the complex and was locatedat one hundred and thirteenth Street and Lenox
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Avenue. On May eighteenth, nineteeneighty nine, at around six thirty pm,
Alison and her two sons, Christopherand Levin, decided to walk to
the park to play. The boyswent down the slides a few times,
and it was said that Christopher washaving a blast that day at the park.
He wasn't able to go down thebig slide by himself, so Alison
would go down with him. Shesaid that he really loved the slides.
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Elizabeth, Carolyn, and some otherrelatives also came to the park that day
to play. Carolyn says Christopher wasalways happy to be outside. She remembers
it was very hot that day,so everybody was at the park, so
that meant the park was very crowded. Carolyn says she could never forget this
day and it was something that haslived with her ever since this happened.
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Alison said that after she and Christopherwalked around the park, she decided to
go to the store to buy crabsfor dinner. Carolyn says that was just
a normal thing they did. Theywould take the children to the park,
Alison would go to the store getsome food. They would take the kids
home, make a meal, andthen they would just all lead together.
Since Alison didn't bring Christopher's stroller thatday, she left him in lavon with
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Elizabeth while she entered the store.Several other adults were there with him.
Before leaving the park, Alison huggedand kissed Christopher goodbye, and she told
him she would be right back.He told her, I love you,
mummy. Thirty minutes later, Alisonreturned to the park and she remembers it
still being very crowded. She startedlooking around for Elizabeth and her sons,
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Elizabeth and Levaughn were there, butChristopher was not. She started asking around
to see if anyone had seen him. The people at the park started looking
too, and they're saying, oh, he's here. Alison kept looking around,
but he wasn't there. She walkedaround the park several times. She
was panicking and she still didn't findhim. Alison asked Carolyn where Christopher was,
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and Carolyn says she had him oneminute, but someone else had him
the next. She says. Therewere about five of them in the park
watching the kids. One of themremembers seeing him playing with a red ball.
However, he hadn't brought a redball to the park that day.
Elizabeth said she saw him playing withhis younger cousin. She looked away for
a few minutes to talk to afriend, and when she looked back,
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Christopher was gone. The cousin sayshe and Christopher went their separate ways while
playing. He didn't see him.After that, the adults split up to
search for him. Some people wentto the opposite side of the park,
Allison went to the one hundred andfifteenth street side. As they continued to
search, Alison eventually realized something wasseriously wrong. She started getting really anxious,
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really nervous. She didn't know whathappened to Christopher, but she was
terrified that she wasn't going to gethim back. She ran up and down
the nearby streets, but she couldn'tfind any traces of him. Carolyn says
it was an overwhelming, frightening andshalking experience. They were all panicking.
One minute Christopher was there, thenext minute he had vanished. He was
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gone into thin airror the police werecalled. Officers rushed at the park.
Inspector of Lindall says, everyone tookthe case very seriously, and it was
kind of an all hands on anall hands on deck type of job where
all the police was they were exhaustingtheir efforts to locate Christopher. All the
people at the park, you know, they were putting in their efforts search
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for him. There were just somany people there. It had to have
been chaotic. I can I canonly imagine this type of scene, you
know, in my head. InspectorLindahl knew that the first few minutes and
hours of a child's disappearance were themost important because after that the chances of
something serious happening you know, orhave already happened very high. The first
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step was an initial canvas of thearea. Police were on the streets asking
passers by and hope that somebody maybesaw something out of the ordinary. They
also did a building by building search. They knocked on doors and they even
offered rewards for information. They lookedinto parmis for anything untowards such as blood,
signs of his struggle or violence,any traces of Christopher, whether it
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be closed toys, anything, andthey didn't find anything. They were so
the way this complex was out.There were ten towers in the complex,
and each tower was about fourteen floors, and each floor had multiple apartments,
so it was very difficult to searchthe entire complex for Christopher and the parks
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in a timely manner. Spector Lindallnoted that there were a lot of people
in this relatively small area that day. He says, the magnitude of the
search that day in the following dayswould have been a lot of work,
but when there's a missing child,they have to do what needs to be
done. Carolyn remembers they're just beingcops all over the place, circling the
area. There were even helicopters circlingthe area and that what was happening was
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just unbelievable. The search area forChristopher spanned twenty four blocks. It was
fairly close to Harlem Mirror, ashallow man made pond located at the north
end of Central Park. Police fearedhe may have fallen into the mirror and
drowned. Scuba team searched it,but nothing was found in the mirror.
Carolyn says that they were scared anddevastated. They couldn't understand where he could
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be. They didn't think he hadwalked off by himself. Alison remembers bringing
some of his close up town tobe sniffed by the search dogs because police
had search dogs, so they usedthe clothes to try to get a scent,
and the dogs picked up his scentand they went south on Lenox Avenue
from the park to one hundred andtenth Street. But then the dog lost
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the scent, and after a coupleof hours had passed, Alison started thinking,
you know the worst. At thispoint, she could believe it was
actually happening. Inspector Lindall says,there's an entrance to the park on Lenox
Avenue and there's a hole in thepark fence where a lot of children would
just come and go. So therewere a lot of entrances and exits to
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this park, and it's located ona very busy street. In Spector Lindall
said that someone could have just putChristopher in a cab or a car and
taken off to parts unknown. Soif Christopher walked out one of these exits,
a car could have literally just rovepast, snatched him up really quick
because of how small he was,and Droubway or any one of those.
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You know, I'm just exaggerating,but hundreds of people in the park could
have just snatched him up and walkedaway. And I mean, there were
so many people there it would havebeen extremely difficult, you know, to
realize what was happening until he's alreadygone. Allison thinks Christopher might have somehow
been coaxed into something because she doesn'tbelieve he would willingly take someone's hand and
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walk off with them. She believesthat if he was crying, or she
believes that if he was crying ashe was being taken away whennesss might not
have really realized something was wrong,since children cry all the time under normal
circumstances. So somebody could have lookedover and thought, wow, you know,
that person ticked that kid off orsomething. You know, they wouldn't
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have realized that Christopher wasn't this personthat was carrying an boy's child. But
she is sure that he had tohave been crying at the time this had
taken place because he was just veryscared of other people. Allison says the
park is not a happy place forher to be anymore, and she still
cannot comprehend how or why this happened, or he would even be responsible.
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Inspector Lindall also wondered what the reasonwas for Christopher's disappearance. He noted it
could have been family members. Hesaid that family and relationships can be volatile
and involatile circumstances, Innocent people whocould not defend themselves become the target and
the focus for all the hostility betweenadults in the family. Spector Lindall wondered
if the disappearance had been the resultof a custody issue between Christopher's parents.
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Allison says his father, Milton,was living in Florida at the time and
he wasn't really involved in Christopher's lifeat all, but he did come back
up after the disappearance, he metwith the police. He cooperated with them,
and Inspector of Lindall said there wasno indication that Milton was evolved in
any way in this case. Theywere able to verify that he was in
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Florida at the time. As aresult, the police were coming back to
square one. At this point,a police started looking at other theories.
They wondered if it was a drugrelated situation. Alison did have a problem
with drugs in the past. Shesaid she was addicted to crack cocaine,
but was in recovery at the timeof Christopher's disappearance. She has a lot
of guilt and shame regarding this.Carolyn says that Alison's lifestyle at the time
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had absolutely nothing to do with Christopherbeing taken away, but you know people
are they didn't see it that way. According to Carolyn, people accused the
family and blame them for the disappearance. Some people alleged that either Alison sold
him for drugs or he was takendue to a drug debt. Alison says
that she was an addict, butshe loved her children and she would never
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hurt them or do anything to putthem in harm's way, so when Christopher
disappeared, it was like a nightmarefor her. She couldn't believe it had
happened, but it did, andthe family later took a lot to detect
her tests, but the results wereinconclusive. A vendor did confirm that Allison
came to his store and bought thecrabs that day. The seven year old
boy from Christopher's neighborhood later told policehe saw Christopher walking on West one hundred
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and eleventh Street later that day.He was accompanied by a black man.
However, police were never able todetermine who this man was. The day
after Christopher disappeared, his cousin reportedlysaw him walking with a man near the
cousin's school. The man had Christopherby the hand. Christopher was wearing the
same clothes he hat on on theday before. His cousin went to the
principal to report what he had seenand police were called. However, there
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was no trace of Christopher or theman. Three months had passed, and
Rosa Glover said that she had noidea that a boy had gone missing at
the park until her son, ShaneWalker, went missing there. Also,
this brings us into our third caseof this episode, which involves the disappearance
of Shane Walker. Another mom namedRosa Glover lived in the same complex as
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Alison and her sons. Rosa gavebirth to a baby boy named Shane Anthony
Walker on December seventh, nineteen eightyseven. At this time, Rosa was
the five years old and had alwaysthought she could never have children until she
gave birth to Shane. She hadcalled to him her special Boy for this
reason. Sane had been a quiet, happy baby who loved his teddy bears,
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and his monkeys and his rattles,and of course he loved his bottles.
Since Rosa worked as a cook fivedays a week, she would often
take Shane out to play at thepark located at the Martin Luther King Junior
Towers on her days off. Thisis the same park where Christopher went missing
from. Alison had been in Disneylandduring the time that Christopher went missing,
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so she was unaware a child hadactually vanished from this park. On August
tenth, nineteen eighty nine, whichhad been a nice, warm evening,
Rosa took Shanda this playground. Theyfirst sat together on a bench to enjoy
some ice cream. When two smallchildren, a ten year old girl and
her six year old brother, cameup to her task if Shane could play
with them, Rosa told them toleave her and Shane alone. Shane was
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too little to play with them,and you know, she just found it
very odd that the two children thisold would want to play with a baby,
because Shane was only eighteen months old. But eventually she gave in and
she agreed and she let Shane playwith the children. So the children took
Shane over to the area by theslides. While sheen played with the children,
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an unknown man sat beside her onthe bench and he started a conversation
with her about the recent chot abductionsat the park. He also began showing
her as scars he had received infights. Kind of found this very awkward
too, you know, some guycomes up, sits beside you on a
bench and just starts talking about fightsand showing you as scars you don't know
them, Like, very very weirdsituation to me. So Rosa was looking
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at the guy's scars, but thenshe looked up and she realized she couldn't
see Shane playing anymore, and soonnoticed he was no longer at the park.
She searched the playground frantically, aswell as nearby parks extensively, but
she couldn't locate Sheen, and soonshe took the two children to the police
station at six point thirty to reporthim missing, so the two children that
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were playing with them. I've heardconflicting reports of this. I've heard that
she took those children to the stationto tell the police they're part of the
story. I've also heard that shegot ahold of the police and the police
came to the park and talked toher and the children. But either way,
they did end up, of course, back in the park to search
for Shane. When police managed tospeak to both of the children that were
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seen playing at the park with Shane, they said they had left Sheen another
part of the park and they didn'tknow where he was. The police spoke
to the man who had been talkingto Rosa, but he was also unable
to provide any information. Police beganto conduct a massive search across the parks,
the apartment towers, the surrounding neighborhood. They were unable to locate Sheen.
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Inspector Lindahl had noted there were toomany eerie similarities between Christopher and Sheen's
disappearance, such as the times ofday when they went missing. They both
went missing on a Thursday. Thetimes of year it was only you know,
Christopher went missing in May, Shanein August. It was still daylight
out on both of the days.The parks had a lot of people there
at the time, so it wouldhave been easier to pull off a kidnapping.
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Both children were last seen in thesame spot of the park. They
were both black and male toddlers,and they lived in the same apartment complex.
An immediate search of the area wasconducted again with two hundred uniformed officers.
Massive amounts of interviews were conducted,canvases of the building and the complex
happened again. Officers even looked indumpsters, garbage shoes. They just tore
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apart all the garbage, but therewere no signs of Shane or Christopher.
They even checked sewers and air shafts. They knocked down some of these abandoned
buildings nearby in search of Shane becausemaybe someone had taken them back to you
know, the trap house. Thebandover recall those houses that were abandoned.
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Maybe people were living there, thatI kidnapped him, but they found no
signs of him. Rosa said Shanewas normally terrified of strangers and he would
yell and scream if anyone approached him, and that day had been the first
time she had ever let him playwith anybody at the park. Shane was
only eighteen months old, so Ireally don't blame her for being, you
know, cautious around people and notreally letting too many people play with Shane
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or handle Shane. I mean,he was young, and he was he
was afraid of other people, whichat that age, you know, some
children they're either just definitely afraid ofstrangers, or you know, they go
up to everyone. You know,there's not really much of it in between
that. So the children who playedwith Shane were extensively interviewed because police thought
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that they were acting as decoys toget Shane away from his mother so that
they could snatch him away and kindof take him to someone. The parents
of the children were interviewed, butit was determined that them, as well
as the strange man sitting on thebench talking to Rosa, had nothing to
do with the disappearance. Relatives alsoall were interviewed, but they checked out
and they were cleared. A thirtythousand dollars reward requesting information was put up
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and a task force was started.Alison, the mother of Christopher Dansby,
was shocked to learn that another childhad disappeared from the park. She says
she felt as if she was livingit all over again. Rosa says it's
hard not to blame herself for Shane'sdisappearance since she took him there and she's
the one that let him play withothers. She feels like she let someone
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take her kid. Alison did notknow Rosa, but empathized with her because
she was going through the same thing. Two mothers who simply let their children
play in the park. They tookthem there to have a good time,
and then the children vanished. It'sbelieved that the same people who took Christopher
also took Shane. The police saidthe worst case scenario would be at a
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pedophile or a serial killer took theboys. They looked into two hundred known
pedophiles, child molesters, and sexoffenders, so nothing panned out. They
say that in most cases when achild goes missing that they're found pretty quickly.
Especially babies, so you know them, not being able to find them
for that period of time kind ofgave everyone a bad feeling. At the
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time, police had heard about apossible baby selling ring. Harlem residents had
wondered if children were being abducted andsold on the black market to those looking
to adopt, Maybe those looking toadopt that couldn't legally adopt or didn't have
the funds, or maybe they werebeing sold for drugs. There's all different
reasons why a baby selling ring wouldhappen. Rumors also spread that the children
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were being taken to childless couples andsold in the South. Spector Lindall says
a possibility that someone was selling blackinfants or young boys was explored, but
it seemed to not be likely.Things that would have been difficult to pay
someone to steal a baby, andnothing service to insinuate that this was actually
going on. Officials with child adoptionservices noted that at the time, it
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wasn't really difficult to adopt an AfricanAmerican child at that time. In New
York, Rosa seated that two detectivescame to our apartment every day. Phones
were tapped. Cops Freunn house twentyfour to seven, but unfortunately they still
didn't call up with anything. Herphones were tapped in hopes that maybe someone
calling, you know, asking forransom, you know, someone would call
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and asked for a ransom from thefamily, but that never happened. Since
that part of Harlem was so denselypopulated at the time, it would have
made it easy for their abductors tojust take them and disappear. While there
have been reported sightings of the twomissing children throughout the United States and the
Caribbean and nothing has panned out,they say it's possible that the children are
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still alive and they would have beentaken maybe by people who couldnap children,
and they were raised, you know, they had normal lives, but they
were raised by the wrong people,maybe desperate people who just wanted a child.
The chances of finding a missing childafter thirty years is very remote,
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but it does still exist today.Andre Bryant would be thirty four years old,
Christopher Dansby would be thirty six yearsold, and Shane Walker would be
thirty six years old. And whileChristopher Dansby and Shane Walker's cases are almost
identical to each other's and Andrea's seemsdifferent. I personally believe that all three
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cases are tied. I believe they'retied together. I believe that there was
a group of people in New Yorkat that time who were stealing children and
selling them for whatever purposes it maybe. And while the police say that
that's unlikely. I am not goingto get into this story, but I
will say I have witnessed the sortof thing happened with my eyes right in
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front of me. I witnessed someoneselling their child in a parking lot where
I lived. It was one ofthe probably, if not the saddest thing
I've ever seen, and I witnessedit happening, and it disgusts me that
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people do this sort of thing,you know, they sell children, They
steal children to sell them. Now, I don't believe personally that the mothers
in these cases had anything. Obviously, no Monique Rivera was murdered, so
but the other two I don't believehad anything to do with selling their children.
I simply believe that this park was, you know, it became a
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popular hangout for people that were lookingto do this sort of thing, that
we're looking to steal and sell children. And they just happened to snatch up
children that maybe weren't being paid attentionto at that time. You know,
there wasn't a parent actively with them. They were maybe sitting, you know,
over at a distance, and itwas just it was an opportunity.
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It was easy. And that's whatI believe happened. While these cases are
old cases and that this occurred innineteen eighty nine, with you know,
all of them, it's still possible. It's still possible they could be found,
and any information on these three childrenwould still be greatly appreciated if it
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was reported, you know, ifyou had anything to report, and that
can be reported to the Center forMissing and Exploited Children the NYPD, because
even if you think that you know, the tiniest crumb of information won't help,
you know, your tiny crumb ofinformation just might be what saws the
case. All Right, every one, that concludes this episode of its Crime
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time, thank you for listening,and until next time,
Hello, listeners, and welcome backto another episode of its Crime Time.
While I know that many listeners oftrue crime are more interested and solved cases,
I've always been intrigued by missing personscases, and lately that's kind of
what I've been researching. I findit so unfathomable to think that people just
vanish and they're never heard from again. It's actually a very terrifying thought.
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I apologize for this episode being horrendouslylate. I've been very sick the past
few weeks and so my voice isa little rough, but I finally feel
good enough to record, so onthis episode, I've chosen to discuss the
missing person's cases of Andre Bryant,Christopher Dansby, and Chane Walker. All
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Right, everyone, it's crime Time. Three of these cases equally hurt my
heart, and while the first oneseems very obvious, it still hasn't been
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solved. Andre Bryant was born onFebruary seventeenth, nineteen eighty nine, and
he was only a month old atthe time of his disappearance. His mother,
twenty two year old Monique Rivera,had been walking with all three of
her children in Brooklyn, New York, when she was approached by two women.
It was believed that Monique may haveknown these two women, maybe from
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a while back, you know,in middle school or something. And one
reason I believe Monique may have atleast been familiar with the identities of the
two women as well is that shelet them hold Andrea. So I'm not
a mom, but if I wasand two strange ladies came up to me
that I didn't know, and second, we hold your one month old baby,
I probably would be wary of themand I wouldn't allow it right away.
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So she allowed them, and shefelt comfortable enough to accept their offer
when they invited her and her threechildren to mc donald's nearby. So the
two women, Monique and her threechildren ate a McDonald's and the two women
asked Monique if she wanted to goshopping with them, So, of course,
the Monique said, sure, youknow, we're already out, let's
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go shopping. So they went tothe mall and Monique had been buying her
own items and things at the mallwith you know, her own money,
But then the two women decided theywanted to buy her an outfit, so
they bought her pants and a shirt, and then they dropped her and her
children off at home. It's beennoted that Monique told her husband Timothy Bryant
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that she believed the two women hadbeen using a fraudulent credit card to take
her shopping and purchase the items.And I'm not exactly sure how she gathered
this, but maybe the women werebragging about it, you know, talking
about how easy it was to stealcredit cards and spend them on, you
know, things for themselves. SoMonique obviously had her reservations about these women
because she had mentioned this to herhusband Timothy, but she she decided to
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go shopping with the two women againthe next day. On March twenty ninth,
nineteen eighty nine, Monique's sister inlaw, Patricia, offered to watch
all of the three children, butshe actually ended up only babysitting two of
them because as soon as the women, I guess it's all Andrea, and
they were just you know, fawningover him and saying how cute this baby
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was and everything. They decided thenext shopping trip that Monique could bring Andrea
along, So instead of leaving allthree of her children with Patricia, she
decided to take Andrea. Now,I would be very wary of this too,
in the fact that these two womendidn't invite me and all three of
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my children. They told me,you know, instead of coming alone,
why don't you bring your baby?And it's like, I don't know,
I just feel like that's very oddbecause the baby, out of all of
the children, would have been theone that required obviously the most care and
attention, and while they were outshopping, so why not just enjoy a
shopping trip without their kids, youknow, since Monique's sister in law offered
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to watch all of them. ButMonique did go with the women, and
she did take Andrea. But thistime the women weren't going to be picking
Monique up from her apartment. Theycalled her from a payphone around the corner
and had Monique meet them there.This is also a red flag that stands
out to me. Why they didn'twant to be seen near her apartment so
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they picked her up around the corner. Andrea and Monique and they were last
seen getting into the woman's car attwo o'clock PM that night. At around
ten o'clock PM, Monique's husband,Timothy started calling family members and the police
to ask about the whereabouts of Moniqueand Andre, because an eight hour shopping
trip. Having a one month holdout on an eight hour shopping trip for
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clothes and stuff just didn't seem youknow, it didn't seem like something that
moniqu would do. And so Timothywas calling family members and he finally contacted
the police, and I guess atthat point the police hadn't gotten any information
and Timothy hadn't gotten any information either. So the next morning, on March
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thirtieth, nineteen eighty nine, Monique'sbody was found in the woods by east
Chester Bay and the Bronx. Shehad been strangled with the scarf. She
suffered a blow to the head.She had broken fingernails and other defensive wounds.
There were no signs of baby Andre. However, in this case seems
very obvious and I do believe thetwo women had an ulterior motive to murder
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Monique and to kidnap Andre, maybeto have them have him for their own
or to sell him, you know, to people that wanted children that maybe
couldn't get them legally. Maybe theywere selling them for drug money. There's
various reasons on why somebody would,you know, kidnap a baby and sell
the baby kill the mother, sothe police did believe that the two women
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were responsible for Monique's death and thedisappearance of Andre. Both women were African
American. They were around five feetseven inches tall. One had red hair
and she was around twenty two yearsold. The other was kind of a
heavyset woman who was around forty yearsold. And the two women drove a
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nineteen eighty eight or a nineteen eightynine Burgundy Pontiac Grand Damn Sports Edition with
tinid windows and possible Maryland license plates. And despite having a description of the
two women and the vehicle and policebelieving that they definitely had to be responsible
for this, the two women havenever been identified. So they've never been
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identified, they've never been found,they've never been spoken to, and this
case still remains unsolved today. Thisnext case has been said to have had
a possible connection to Andre's case,even though the circumstances are different. For
Moultain. Dansby was born on Marchthirtieth, nineteen eighty seven, to parents
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Milton West Scott Robbins, and AlisonDansby in Manhattan, New York. Chris
was affectionately known as chew chew Byhis family. Alison, her mother,
Elizabeth Manley, Alison's siblings, andher cousins all lived in the same apartment
complex building in the Martin Luther KingJunior Towers Complex in Central Manhattan, New
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York. So Chris's father lived allthe way in Florida at this time,
so he was being raised by hismother. During the nineteen eighties, this
particular area in New York was apretty rough area. It was a time
in which robbery's, assaults and violentcrimes were very common. There was also
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a large population of those addicted todrugs living on the streets in the area.
Police Inspector Ken Lindall arrived in theHarlem area in nineteen eighty nine and
said it was a tough and veryviolent place, but there was just a
lot of hardworking people living there justtrying to survive, and Alison and her
family were doing the same. Innineteen eighty nine, Alison was twenty six
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years old and had two sons,three year old Levon and two year old
Christopher. Levon's nickname was Poncho andChristopher's, as I've mentioned, was Choo
Choo. Christopher's aunt says he wasvery attached to her, but also his
mom. He was so attached tohis mom that he would not go with
just anyone, and he was verycautious when it came to anyone who wasn't
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his mom. By the age oftwo, Christopher was talking a little bit
and loved to cuddle. He wouldsay things like lavon and Mama. His
face would light up when he wouldsee his mother walk in the room.
Chriscopher loved being outside, and heand Alison would sit outside on the bench
at the complex and then they wouldwalk to the park, which was actually
part of the complex and was locatedat one hundred and thirteenth Street and Lenox
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Avenue. On May eighteenth, nineteeneighty nine, at around six thirty pm,
Alison and her two sons, Christopherand Levin, decided to walk to
the park to play. The boyswent down the slides a few times,
and it was said that Christopher washaving a blast that day at the park.
He wasn't able to go down thebig slide by himself, so Alison
would go down with him. Shesaid that he really loved the slides.
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Elizabeth, Carolyn, and some otherrelatives also came to the park that day
to play. Carolyn says Christopher wasalways happy to be outside. She remembers
it was very hot that day,so everybody was at the park, so
that meant the park was very crowded. Carolyn says she could never forget this
day and it was something that haslived with her ever since this happened.
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Alison said that after she and Christopherwalked around the park, she decided to
go to the store to buy crabsfor dinner. Carolyn says that was just
a normal thing they did. Theywould take the children to the park,
Alison would go to the store getsome food. They would take the kids
home, make a meal, andthen they would just all lead together.
Since Alison didn't bring Christopher's stroller thatday, she left him in lavon with
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Elizabeth while she entered the store.Several other adults were there with him.
Before leaving the park, Alison huggedand kissed Christopher goodbye, and she told
him she would be right back.He told her, I love you,
mummy. Thirty minutes later, Alisonreturned to the park and she remembers it
still being very crowded. She startedlooking around for Elizabeth and her sons,
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Elizabeth and Levaughn were there, butChristopher was not. She started asking around
to see if anyone had seen him. The people at the park started looking
too, and they're saying, oh, he's here. Alison kept looking around,
but he wasn't there. She walkedaround the park several times. She
was panicking and she still didn't findhim. Alison asked Carolyn where Christopher was,
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and Carolyn says she had him oneminute, but someone else had him
the next. She says. Therewere about five of them in the park
watching the kids. One of themremembers seeing him playing with a red ball.
However, he hadn't brought a redball to the park that day.
Elizabeth said she saw him playing withhis younger cousin. She looked away for
a few minutes to talk to afriend, and when she looked back,
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Christopher was gone. The cousin sayshe and Christopher went their separate ways while
playing. He didn't see him.After that, the adults split up to
search for him. Some people wentto the opposite side of the park,
Allison went to the one hundred andfifteenth street side. As they continued to
search, Alison eventually realized something wasseriously wrong. She started getting really anxious,
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really nervous. She didn't know whathappened to Christopher, but she was
terrified that she wasn't going to gethim back. She ran up and down
the nearby streets, but she couldn'tfind any traces of him. Carolyn says
it was an overwhelming, frightening andshalking experience. They were all panicking.
One minute Christopher was there, thenext minute he had vanished. He was
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gone into thin airror the police werecalled. Officers rushed at the park.
Inspector of Lindall says, everyone tookthe case very seriously, and it was
kind of an all hands on anall hands on deck type of job where
all the police was they were exhaustingtheir efforts to locate Christopher. All the
people at the park, you know, they were putting in their efforts search
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for him. There were just somany people there. It had to have
been chaotic. I can I canonly imagine this type of scene, you
know, in my head. InspectorLindahl knew that the first few minutes and
hours of a child's disappearance were themost important because after that the chances of
something serious happening you know, orhave already happened very high. The first
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step was an initial canvas of thearea. Police were on the streets asking
passers by and hope that somebody maybesaw something out of the ordinary. They
also did a building by building search. They knocked on doors and they even
offered rewards for information. They lookedinto parmis for anything untowards such as blood,
signs of his struggle or violence,any traces of Christopher, whether it
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be closed toys, anything, andthey didn't find anything. They were so
the way this complex was out.There were ten towers in the complex,
and each tower was about fourteen floors, and each floor had multiple apartments,
so it was very difficult to searchthe entire complex for Christopher and the parks
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in a timely manner. Spector Lindallnoted that there were a lot of people
in this relatively small area that day. He says, the magnitude of the
search that day in the following dayswould have been a lot of work,
but when there's a missing child,they have to do what needs to be
done. Carolyn remembers they're just beingcops all over the place, circling the
area. There were even helicopters circlingthe area and that what was happening was
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just unbelievable. The search area forChristopher spanned twenty four blocks. It was
fairly close to Harlem Mirror, ashallow man made pond located at the north
end of Central Park. Police fearedhe may have fallen into the mirror and
drowned. Scuba team searched it,but nothing was found in the mirror.
Carolyn says that they were scared anddevastated. They couldn't understand where he could
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be. They didn't think he hadwalked off by himself. Alison remembers bringing
some of his close up town tobe sniffed by the search dogs because police
had search dogs, so they usedthe clothes to try to get a scent,
and the dogs picked up his scentand they went south on Lenox Avenue
from the park to one hundred andtenth Street. But then the dog lost
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the scent, and after a coupleof hours had passed, Alison started thinking,
you know the worst. At thispoint, she could believe it was
actually happening. Inspector Lindall says,there's an entrance to the park on Lenox
Avenue and there's a hole in thepark fence where a lot of children would
just come and go. So therewere a lot of entrances and exits to
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this park, and it's located ona very busy street. In Spector Lindall
said that someone could have just putChristopher in a cab or a car and
taken off to parts unknown. Soif Christopher walked out one of these exits,
a car could have literally just rovepast, snatched him up really quick
because of how small he was,and Droubway or any one of those.
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You know, I'm just exaggerating,but hundreds of people in the park could
have just snatched him up and walkedaway. And I mean, there were
so many people there it would havebeen extremely difficult, you know, to
realize what was happening until he's alreadygone. Allison thinks Christopher might have somehow
been coaxed into something because she doesn'tbelieve he would willingly take someone's hand and
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walk off with them. She believesthat if he was crying, or she
believes that if he was crying ashe was being taken away whennesss might not
have really realized something was wrong,since children cry all the time under normal
circumstances. So somebody could have lookedover and thought, wow, you know,
that person ticked that kid off orsomething. You know, they wouldn't
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have realized that Christopher wasn't this personthat was carrying an boy's child. But
she is sure that he had tohave been crying at the time this had
taken place because he was just veryscared of other people. Allison says the
park is not a happy place forher to be anymore, and she still
cannot comprehend how or why this happened, or he would even be responsible.
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Inspector Lindall also wondered what the reasonwas for Christopher's disappearance. He noted it
could have been family members. Hesaid that family and relationships can be volatile
and involatile circumstances, Innocent people whocould not defend themselves become the target and
the focus for all the hostility betweenadults in the family. Spector Lindall wondered
if the disappearance had been the resultof a custody issue between Christopher's parents.
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Allison says his father, Milton,was living in Florida at the time and
he wasn't really involved in Christopher's lifeat all, but he did come back
up after the disappearance, he metwith the police. He cooperated with them,
and Inspector of Lindall said there wasno indication that Milton was evolved in
any way in this case. Theywere able to verify that he was in
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Florida at the time. As aresult, the police were coming back to
square one. At this point,a police started looking at other theories.
They wondered if it was a drugrelated situation. Alison did have a problem
with drugs in the past. Shesaid she was addicted to crack cocaine,
but was in recovery at the timeof Christopher's disappearance. She has a lot
of guilt and shame regarding this.Carolyn says that Alison's lifestyle at the time
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had absolutely nothing to do with Christopherbeing taken away, but you know people
are they didn't see it that way. According to Carolyn, people accused the
family and blame them for the disappearance. Some people alleged that either Alison sold
him for drugs or he was takendue to a drug debt. Alison says
that she was an addict, butshe loved her children and she would never
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hurt them or do anything to putthem in harm's way, so when Christopher
disappeared, it was like a nightmarefor her. She couldn't believe it had
happened, but it did, andthe family later took a lot to detect
her tests, but the results wereinconclusive. A vendor did confirm that Allison
came to his store and bought thecrabs that day. The seven year old
boy from Christopher's neighborhood later told policehe saw Christopher walking on West one hundred
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and eleventh Street later that day.He was accompanied by a black man.
However, police were never able todetermine who this man was. The day
after Christopher disappeared, his cousin reportedlysaw him walking with a man near the
cousin's school. The man had Christopherby the hand. Christopher was wearing the
same clothes he hat on on theday before. His cousin went to the
principal to report what he had seenand police were called. However, there
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was no trace of Christopher or theman. Three months had passed, and
Rosa Glover said that she had noidea that a boy had gone missing at
the park until her son, ShaneWalker, went missing there. Also,
this brings us into our third caseof this episode, which involves the disappearance
of Shane Walker. Another mom namedRosa Glover lived in the same complex as
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Alison and her sons. Rosa gavebirth to a baby boy named Shane Anthony
Walker on December seventh, nineteen eightyseven. At this time, Rosa was
the five years old and had alwaysthought she could never have children until she
gave birth to Shane. She hadcalled to him her special Boy for this
reason. Sane had been a quiet, happy baby who loved his teddy bears,
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and his monkeys and his rattles,and of course he loved his bottles.
Since Rosa worked as a cook fivedays a week, she would often
take Shane out to play at thepark located at the Martin Luther King Junior
Towers on her days off. Thisis the same park where Christopher went missing
from. Alison had been in Disneylandduring the time that Christopher went missing,
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so she was unaware a child hadactually vanished from this park. On August
tenth, nineteen eighty nine, whichhad been a nice, warm evening,
Rosa took Shanda this playground. Theyfirst sat together on a bench to enjoy
some ice cream. When two smallchildren, a ten year old girl and
her six year old brother, cameup to her task if Shane could play
with them, Rosa told them toleave her and Shane alone. Shane was
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too little to play with them,and you know, she just found it
very odd that the two children thisold would want to play with a baby,
because Shane was only eighteen months old. But eventually she gave in and
she agreed and she let Shane playwith the children. So the children took
Shane over to the area by theslides. While sheen played with the children,
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an unknown man sat beside her onthe bench and he started a conversation
with her about the recent chot abductionsat the park. He also began showing
her as scars he had received infights. Kind of found this very awkward
too, you know, some guycomes up, sits beside you on a
bench and just starts talking about fightsand showing you as scars you don't know
them, Like, very very weirdsituation to me. So Rosa was looking
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at the guy's scars, but thenshe looked up and she realized she couldn't
see Shane playing anymore, and soonnoticed he was no longer at the park.
She searched the playground frantically, aswell as nearby parks extensively, but
she couldn't locate Sheen, and soonshe took the two children to the police
station at six point thirty to reporthim missing, so the two children that
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were playing with them. I've heardconflicting reports of this. I've heard that
she took those children to the stationto tell the police they're part of the
story. I've also heard that shegot ahold of the police and the police
came to the park and talked toher and the children. But either way,
they did end up, of course, back in the park to search
for Shane. When police managed tospeak to both of the children that were
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seen playing at the park with Shane, they said they had left Sheen another
part of the park and they didn'tknow where he was. The police spoke
to the man who had been talkingto Rosa, but he was also unable
to provide any information. Police beganto conduct a massive search across the parks,
the apartment towers, the surrounding neighborhood. They were unable to locate Sheen.
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Inspector Lindahl had noted there were toomany eerie similarities between Christopher and Sheen's
disappearance, such as the times ofday when they went missing. They both
went missing on a Thursday. Thetimes of year it was only you know,
Christopher went missing in May, Shanein August. It was still daylight
out on both of the days.The parks had a lot of people there
at the time, so it wouldhave been easier to pull off a kidnapping.
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Both children were last seen in thesame spot of the park. They
were both black and male toddlers,and they lived in the same apartment complex.
An immediate search of the area wasconducted again with two hundred uniformed officers.
Massive amounts of interviews were conducted,canvases of the building and the complex
happened again. Officers even looked indumpsters, garbage shoes. They just tore
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apart all the garbage, but therewere no signs of Shane or Christopher.
They even checked sewers and air shafts. They knocked down some of these abandoned
buildings nearby in search of Shane becausemaybe someone had taken them back to you
know, the trap house. Thebandover recall those houses that were abandoned.
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Maybe people were living there, thatI kidnapped him, but they found no
signs of him. Rosa said Shanewas normally terrified of strangers and he would
yell and scream if anyone approached him, and that day had been the first
time she had ever let him playwith anybody at the park. Shane was
only eighteen months old, so Ireally don't blame her for being, you
know, cautious around people and notreally letting too many people play with Shane
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or handle Shane. I mean,he was young, and he was he
was afraid of other people, whichat that age, you know, some
children they're either just definitely afraid ofstrangers, or you know, they go
up to everyone. You know,there's not really much of it in between
that. So the children who playedwith Shane were extensively interviewed because police thought
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that they were acting as decoys toget Shane away from his mother so that
they could snatch him away and kindof take him to someone. The parents
of the children were interviewed, butit was determined that them, as well
as the strange man sitting on thebench talking to Rosa, had nothing to
do with the disappearance. Relatives alsoall were interviewed, but they checked out
and they were cleared. A thirtythousand dollars reward requesting information was put up
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and a task force was started.Alison, the mother of Christopher Dansby,
was shocked to learn that another childhad disappeared from the park. She says
she felt as if she was livingit all over again. Rosa says it's
hard not to blame herself for Shane'sdisappearance since she took him there and she's
the one that let him play withothers. She feels like she let someone
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take her kid. Alison did notknow Rosa, but empathized with her because
she was going through the same thing. Two mothers who simply let their children
play in the park. They tookthem there to have a good time,
and then the children vanished. It'sbelieved that the same people who took Christopher
also took Shane. The police saidthe worst case scenario would be at a
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pedophile or a serial killer took theboys. They looked into two hundred known
pedophiles, child molesters, and sexoffenders, so nothing panned out. They
say that in most cases when achild goes missing that they're found pretty quickly.
Especially babies, so you know them, not being able to find them
for that period of time kind ofgave everyone a bad feeling. At the
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time, police had heard about apossible baby selling ring. Harlem residents had
wondered if children were being abducted andsold on the black market to those looking
to adopt, Maybe those looking toadopt that couldn't legally adopt or didn't have
the funds, or maybe they werebeing sold for drugs. There's all different
reasons why a baby selling ring wouldhappen. Rumors also spread that the children
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were being taken to childless couples andsold in the South. Spector Lindall says
a possibility that someone was selling blackinfants or young boys was explored, but
it seemed to not be likely.Things that would have been difficult to pay
someone to steal a baby, andnothing service to insinuate that this was actually
going on. Officials with child adoptionservices noted that at the time, it
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wasn't really difficult to adopt an AfricanAmerican child at that time. In New
York, Rosa seated that two detectivescame to our apartment every day. Phones
were tapped. Cops Freunn house twentyfour to seven, but unfortunately they still
didn't call up with anything. Herphones were tapped in hopes that maybe someone
calling, you know, asking forransom, you know, someone would call
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and asked for a ransom from thefamily, but that never happened. Since
that part of Harlem was so denselypopulated at the time, it would have
made it easy for their abductors tojust take them and disappear. While there
have been reported sightings of the twomissing children throughout the United States and the
Caribbean and nothing has panned out,they say it's possible that the children are
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still alive and they would have beentaken maybe by people who couldnap children,
and they were raised, you know, they had normal lives, but they
were raised by the wrong people,maybe desperate people who just wanted a child.
The chances of finding a missing childafter thirty years is very remote,
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but it does still exist today.Andre Bryant would be thirty four years old,
Christopher Dansby would be thirty six yearsold, and Shane Walker would be
thirty six years old. And whileChristopher Dansby and Shane Walker's cases are almost
identical to each other's and Andrea's seemsdifferent. I personally believe that all three
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cases are tied. I believe they'retied together. I believe that there was
a group of people in New Yorkat that time who were stealing children and
selling them for whatever purposes it maybe. And while the police say that
that's unlikely. I am not goingto get into this story, but I
will say I have witnessed the sortof thing happened with my eyes right in
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front of me. I witnessed someoneselling their child in a parking lot where
I lived. It was one ofthe probably, if not the saddest thing
I've ever seen, and I witnessedit happening, and it disgusts me that
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people do this sort of thing,you know, they sell children, They
steal children to sell them. Now, I don't believe personally that the mothers
in these cases had anything. Obviously, no Monique Rivera was murdered, so
but the other two I don't believehad anything to do with selling their children.
I simply believe that this park was, you know, it became a
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popular hangout for people that were lookingto do this sort of thing, that
we're looking to steal and sell children. And they just happened to snatch up
children that maybe weren't being paid attentionto at that time. You know,
there wasn't a parent actively with them. They were maybe sitting, you know,
over at a distance, and itwas just it was an opportunity.
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It was easy. And that's whatI believe happened. While these cases are
old cases and that this occurred innineteen eighty nine, with you know,
all of them, it's still possible. It's still possible they could be found,
and any information on these three childrenwould still be greatly appreciated if it
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was reported, you know, ifyou had anything to report, and that
can be reported to the Center forMissing and Exploited Children the NYPD, because
even if you think that you know, the tiniest crumb of information won't help,
you know, your tiny crumb ofinformation just might be what saws the
case. All Right, every one, that concludes this episode of its Crime
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