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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And we're back everybody. I will be in Kansas City,
I will be in El Paso, Texas. I will be
in Phoenix, Arizona, one night only, one night only, Phoenix, Arizona.
All the date. You can see on my Instagram. I
put him on my link tree, or if you're on
my YouTube, go to my link tree and you will
see where I will be. Alright, and right now we're
(00:23):
calling mister Mike Black, Mike Black, Summertime Fun. Hello, Hello,
Summertime Fun with Mike Black. Yeah, baby, dude, this is hilarious.
I just was outside right now to give the listeners
a visual. I met the farm. I'm away from La.
(00:43):
I'm about three hours north of LA and uh, I'm
staying on a farm and also near a small town.
And I was like, you know what, I'll get a
little exercise, I'll eat a little some you know, eat healthy,
and then I'll take a shower and then do the
podcast and then I get out of get out of
the shower. My dude, my shin was itching. I looked
down and along with summertime and outdoors, I had insect bites.
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So I had to put some uh yeah, hydro zone
cortizone whatever it's called. I don't know. I had to
put some cream on the Yeah, you know, it's it's funny.
You don't really get I don't really get insect bites
in the city.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
You have to go the hiker zone.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, I'm like, what you called again, cortizone ten. I
think it's called cortizone ten or something.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
And then yeah, there's a there's a few different kinds,
but yeah, that's probably the best thing you can put
on it.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Oh, it's so funny because I'm sure people that go
through this all the time know exactly what to do.
But I'm like, damn, it's been you know, almost what
a year, probably like since last summer. So I was like,
which is witch hazel? And that's for pimples? Uh, what
about this one of the bottoms? Would you say? Exactly?
(01:57):
What about some they put sun screen? A minute, No,
that's already yeah, and then uh, and then I looked
at one bottle that we had and it was expired.
But I'm like, you know what, it's better than nothing.
So I put in the expired bottle until I found
what the cream that you're supposed to put on?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
But well, and some of the sunscreens have so much
like scent now, like fruity scent, stuff like that, and
it just makes bugs want to bite you even.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
More, I know, right, like they gosh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
That's honey maple flavor, Darren Carter, we have here.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
He comes walking towards us, honey maple Darren Carter. Oh,
what's it? Give me tomorrow? Oh well, look it's vanilla,
French vanilla.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Why are all these mosquitoes wearing lobster bibs?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
They're gonna munch on me. I know, dude. It's like,
remember when I was a kid or teenager, I should
say that there was a smell. I loved it. It
was a sunscreen called Banana Boat, and it smelled very banana.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Get on the boat, Bana boat.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yeah, And I remember I remember it being in the
shape of a banana. And I remember we went to
Dana Point. We went there for a speech tournament. It
was like a you know, forensics tournament. And I remember
just all these girls with bikinis and the yellow banana
boat sunscreen. And so I have a very fond memory
of that scent.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Like yeah, you're.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Like, you don't see this in Fresno. No, Yeah, And so.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, I speaking of Dana point. I remember having a
friend named Dana and they were like real adamant about something,
and someone else goes, Dana has a really good point.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
It's an hour data point. Would that'd be cool, Mike
point a.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Point, but it's an hour and a half away in traveling,
it's clever.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
That's funny. Wouldn't it be cool to have like a
mic black point?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Oh yeah, maybe I'll get one.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, there's a mountain named after me. It's called Mount Baldy.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
But I think Carlon had a joke like about Mount Baldy,
but it was a it was a euphemism for pleasure
in yourself. He was like waxing Mount Baldy, he called it.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
That's hilarious. But yeah, I got that little bug bite
and I was like, man, and then I realized, Yeah,
they always say there's weird things that you could do.
They're like, you know, oh, put dryer sheets on, you know,
carry dryer sheets in your pockets and they'll keep the
mosquitoes away.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, they hate dryer sheets. Like I want my clothes
to come out rough.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
That guy's got dryer sheets, stay away.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
So I'm because I am at the farm. I was
gonna I was gonna tell you, I don't know. I tried.
I went into town yesterday. This is it's just like
living in the Old West, but with cars and Starbucks
and air conditioning. So there's nothing like the Old West.
But here's what I'm trying to get at it. It's like,
I mean, I go to the local Starbucks, which has
the best Wi Fi. You know, when I say locals,
you know, we're talking, you know, over twenty minute drive.
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But I get there and and I'm trying to upload
a clip, like it's just a four minute clip to
my YouTube channel, and it and it it took man.
It it still isn't uploaded, but it literally took a
half hour. Like it was doing great. I'm like, oh,
it's gonna go up, all right, And then like these
kids came in and different people came in with their
their iPads and iPhones and everyone's using the same right
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and just really throttled it. I was like, dang it,
so so but this is audio only, so maybe this
will go up quicker. I don't know, but just a
little heads up. So I was like, let's do a you.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Know, you can be the fun old man at Starbucks.
Will you kids stay off the internet.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I am trying to upload a YouTube clip of Dick jokes.
I like my women, like, I like my exactly s.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
We're gonna ask you to stop talking to the teenagers
like that. Get out of Starbucks, dude.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
But we're in it, man, We're in July. So my
Oh that's my point. I don't know when this is
gonna go up, because I know we're like, let's do
a Fourth of July episode, but this may come out after.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
This may come out yeah in December. Yeah, it'll be
the opposite of Christmas in July.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I was like, oh, maybe I'll bank a bunch of
episodes and then just wait till I'm back in La
to like a very special.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
What you could do is do like a like cut
a fun little segment out of this and just like
a not even a full episode, just a fun little
fourth of July.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Oh, that's a good idea for the fans. From the fans,
here's my deal with the You know, I'm usually pretty
optimistic and positive on most things, you know, like, oh,
I always take the high road, but I gotta be honest.
I don't know, I'm I mean, I listen. I was
gonna say, I was gonna I was gonna like bag
on fireworks. I do like fireworks, you know, like if
we were to go to a you know, like I
think we're gonna go to a Fourth of July like
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get together a deal, like a big that's put on
by one of the local towns, and I'm gonna love it.
But I don't if it was me, if I was single,
I wouldn't do it because I'm not that into fireworks.
I'm like, I never bought them as a kid. I mean,
I've seen a lot of fireworks shows, but I guess
living in LA especially because you hear fireworks a lot,
and then we live not too far from Universal Studios,
so if you're driving down Olive Avenue, at the end
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of Alive Avenue, it looks like it's at the very
end of it. You're seeing fireworks going off at Universal
Studios all the time. So it's kind of like I
see a lot of fireworks throughout the year, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, yeah, they're they're everywhere here. Like I went and
saw Hugh Jackman in Hollywood Bowl and they did fireworks
after that. So it's kind of like I'm always good
you know. If ever I'm doing a thing and they're like, ah,
I hate to break it to you, but we canceled
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the fireworks, it's like, all right, right, I'm okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I mean it's definitely cool when I see them, and
I love the you know, the fellowship when you're checking
it out, But to go out of my way, like hey, Mike,
you want to go to this thing when there's a
fireworks and be like what else can we do? You know?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, things we could do.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I know, And then I end up being one of
those people though. I got to be honest. I will film.
I will be like, oh, let me look at this fireworks,
and then I tell myself I'm never going to look
at this again. But you know what, every now and
then it pops up on your like memories or whatever
on your phone and I'm like, oh, that's actually pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
So yeah, and it's kind of like a concert footage, right,
Nobody else cares but the person filmed it, you know,
oh yeah, you know they I see it on Instagram
all the time, just tons and tons of people posting
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like them at a concert and it's like, yeah, we
don't nobody else is excited about this one amazing shot,
or like the lead singer took your phone and did
a bunch of stuff with it or something, But that
never happened at least the people. None of the people
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I followed get that sort of treatment.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I know they You tweeted something the other day, I think,
or posted something the other day about the Beach Boys.
It just reminded me of like the like summertime I
got to see the Beach Boys, but not with not
with Brian, but with Mike Love and it was and
also John Stamos, but still it was it was called
the Beach Boy.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, technically the Beach Boys.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
We're gonna play some Beach Boy. But I gotta be
honest though, like it. When I was growing up, I
you know, of course I would. I would be like,
you know, you'd hear whatever was on the radio. But
I never really was drawn to Beach Boys. But then
about ten years ago I got into the Beach Boys. Man,
there are they have some great music, man.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah. Yeah, and a lot of it is stuff that
it's like, oh I I heard it and didn't realize, yes,
you know that that that was them. You know, I
don't have any.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Examples, but yeah, yeah, like exactly because sometimes I would
confuse them in the other group Jan and Deine. Right, yeah,
my little too scoop or something like that. But do
do do those those high voices in the Do you
do you have a favorite Beach Boys song or two
that you like?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Probably God only knows?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Oh yeah, man, that's God only knows. That's so good.
I also like, I like, I like, wouldn't it be nice?
Wouldn't it be nice? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
That was good. It's oddly it's some of their more
popular upbeat stuff that I'm just not as.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Into really, you know, like wipe out.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Good vibrations.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I don't, Oh, you don't like good vibrations.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
It's fine, but it's not I don't running into a
room if they're playing it or running into a room.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, I like good vibrations. I have to disagree with that.
But I do remember being like part of a commercial
when I was a kid, like an orange soda or something.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, maybe that's why I didn't like it. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
It was like an orange crush soda. I'm thinking about good.
But I like that bass, the way the bass sounds
like on that song.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, I understand that it's a good song, it's just
not my.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
It's funny how certain music will people will identify with
it and then start dressing like that. Like, you know,
like if you if you were to like have a
Beach Boys persona, all of a sudden, I'd see you
wearing some kind of dad hat and a flower and
Hawaiian shirt.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, there's a very specific look. It crosses over a
lot with the Margaritaville guy.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I was just gonna say, Jimmy Buffett, Like, how would
you tell the difference between a Jimmy Buffett parent head
and a Beach Boys fan. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
If you could, I would say it's the difference between
like an optimist and a cynic you know, Like optimists
would be very much rocking Beach Boy's attire, yeah, and
like their music a lot more, and Jimmy Buffett people
are a little bit more cynical.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
You know. Yeah, Hey, change your attitude, change your platitude.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah. They blew out their flip flop.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Yeah, they blew up their flip flop. They fell in
love with a Mexican cutie.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, yeah, all the things you have to watch out
top Yeah yeah, I don't even know what a.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Pop top is. I think it's was like a bottle
top like.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, I would imagine, yeah, like a pop Yeah, the
top of the bottle, you know, like the sure Oh yeah,
and he's been eating sponge cake all day in the song.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, because he didn't give a crap anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Is that that is he literally living off of a
like angel food cake? Is that what sponge cake is?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I think they're very similar, if not exactly the same thing.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Oh, here's the lyrics. I just pulled him up nibbling
on sponge cake. Oh so he's nibbling on sponge cake.
He's watching the sun bake all of you parrot heads
covered with oil. Oh wow, Oh wow, he actually called
him parrot. Heeads like right away. Oh wow, that's pretty cool.
Like he he had he name checked his fans in
the song, which came out in nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, that's it's nuts ew.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
It says, smell those shrimp, Hey, they're beginning to boil.
I don't think I like the smell of shrimp.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
I know, I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, and then here it says bubble bubble, bubble, bubble
wasting away. I know, the hook wasting away. Again in Margaritaville,
searching for my long lost shaker of salt. Oh yeah,
here we go. Yeah, Mexican cuitie. She broke his heart.
Soon it will render the frozen concoction that helps me
hang on, hang on in the blender. It's like, I
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don't really like frozen drinks either. It's like I just
picture getting a headache. Could you drink it too fast? Yeah? Yeah, Okay,
So that's what you would know what a beach Boy
fan looks like. You would know what a Margarita fan,
Jimmy Buffett fan would look like. What if all of
a sudden, you got into like Johnny Cash, how would
you dress then? Well, in black, So you'd wear like
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all black all the time.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
All black all the time.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Now, how would you differentiate if you were a mic
I'm sorry, Mike Black.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
You're Mike Black, Mike Black fan, I would be difficult
to spot in public.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, so you got the Johnny Cash fan, you're all black.
Now what if you were like a Metallica fan, because
I feel like those metal guys were black a lot also.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, but they mixed in a lot of gray, you know,
a lot of Like it's the whole spectrum of black.
You know, a lot of faded black stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Oh yeah, And in fact, they have a song fade
to Black.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah, So if they had to fade to black, that
means they must have been gray and then they faded
to black, right, And then they would also have like
maybe a picture more like spiky wristbands or some kind
of you know, like some sort of accessories more than
the Johnny Cash fans perhaps.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, that makes sense a lot more, Yeah, like spiky
necklaces and chains, and how.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Would you address if you were into like English beat
or modern English, like those eight you know, oh, stop
the world and matter with you.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Well, it's similar, but it's uh, I don't know, more
a lot more like button down ya oh.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
And I was picturing the opposite, like I was picturing
them wearing all white, like with white pants and white shirts, and.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Oh, I was thinking of like the new wave sort
of looks and like new wave goths.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I saw them and we saw them perform at the
Hollywood Bowl. I may have told this story, but I'll
say it again. It was hilarious because they were up
third and so like the sun was out when the
first act went on the sun starts to go down
on the second one, and then when they came out,
the sun had finally just dropped, and you know, the
crowd was filling in and he stops what he's playing.
He comes out and he's like mm. Then he stops
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and he goes, how's everybody filling tonight? And we're like yeah,
and he goes, then how about showing some fucking and busiasm?
And it was like it was funny, but it was
like it wasn't like he went from that to like
Welcome to the Joe though. You know, he went back
to his uh, you know, key tar and was like, oh,
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stop the world and melt with you. Oh one, two three? Yeah? Man?
They yeah, but we have something. I think we're gonna
go to the uh. I think we're doing some concerts
this summer we're gonna go to and then we're gonna
see some cover bands. Locally, they have like the local
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country Pumpkin Town has a farmer's market and they have like,
you know, a classic rock and country night. So we're
gonna go check that out. That should be pretty fun.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
What, uh, is there a band that you're most excited
about in the summer?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Not really, I don't know what's on the agenda, not
that I'm watching. I'm gonna put this out and be like, oh,
I totally forgot, but not really. I gotta be honest.
I'm uh. I'm more trying to just like work on
my own comedy and in my own tour and stuff.
But but there is a new Countries singer that I
discovered that I'd been seeing posts of this guy, and
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I didn't. I never really got into it. I never
really like. But then one day I I was driving
down the road, I was listening to Willie Nelson's Roadhouse
and this song came on and it was called ten
Dollars Cowboy, and the artist is a guy named Charlie Crockett.
And I'm like, this guy's good. It has like that
cowboy guitar sound that that wow wo wow like that,
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and the song is like I'm a ten dollar callboy.
It's so good, dude. And then uh, and then I
did like a deep dive and I listened to more
of his music. And do you know anything about Charlie Crockett.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Not really, no, dude.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
He started out as a Texas He started out in Texas,
but then he was like a street performer, and he
kind of that's how he made his bones, like in
New Orleans, and you know, then eventually he went overseas
and did it. But at one point he did it
in New York City, like he started out, and he
just talks about how he started out on the unpopular
corners because you know, that's where the other street performers are.
Then he made his way closer to like the more
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popular areas, and then eventually he was on the subway platforms.
But he'd go to unpopular platform and then start going
to the more popular platforms and then baptized by fire
that he they actually started playing on the subway trains
where people where they kind of like forced their stuff
on people.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
You know, yeah, they have no way, they're a captive audience.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, well a courding, I guess according to where I
could remember. They. You know, he would see some other
guy that was doing some like freestyle wrapping, and he
had that freestyle rapper guy had like a guitar player
with them, but sometimes those guitar players wouldn't show up
different things, And one day Charlie said he was on
the on a train. He was on the subway train
and coming towards him. He saw that the rapper guy
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that he knows, and uh, he goes, I couldn't really
tell what he didn't realize he was actually rapping as
he was walking. He was after he was talking to people.
He goes, and then he got closer. I realized, oh wow, okay,
there's a guitar behind him and they're they're they're wrapping.
And when he when he walked by me, he showed
me like how much money they were making. And he's like, damn.
And so because because the guy kept saying, you gott
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to join us, you got to join us, you gotta
join So then he started joining him, and he goes,
I went from making like thirty bucks on the street
to like we were making like three hundred and we
were splitting at one point fifty. You know. But yeah,
this guy's got a great story and he's I've listened
to him on different podcasts and different albums. And he
has one album called hard Times, and he came out
in twenty nineteen and it was right before the pandemic,
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or maybe came out early twenty twenty somewhere around there.
Oh yeah, I came out early twenty twenty and it's funny.
I ran into this comedian some people may know him
Tom Rhodes, and I, oh, yeah, yeah, Tom's great. And
I saw that he had been to like quite a
bunch of quite a few Charlie Crockett concerts.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
He might be the most well traveled comic.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
I know, oh one hundred percent. I mean there was
one point they'd ask him where do you live? He'd say,
these shoes. It was just like he would travel man.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
But yeah, funny dude, good down to earth comic, very real,
nice guy and smart as a width, you know, just
real real, like you could talk about anything and he
would know what you were talking about.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
And yeah, he said that album hard times because it
just really hit me because you know that, you know,
everything's shut down, lockdown, and this album is you know,
came out and anyways, it was so that's like a
new artist I out. I think you might like it
because it's like a even though he's like modern, but
it's uh, just to see the way that he made
it and what he's putting out.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
And I like modern stuff. I have a microwave. Yeah,
I'm real modern technology and whatnot. I'll probably like it.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I think you might like it. I mean it's like
storytelling and it's good. Then he's done a few covers
that are great, and I mean you and and you.
What like about his stuff too, is very authentic, like autobiographical,
you know, like there's a song that kind of stuff
where you're like, you know, basically a guy telling his
story where he's from and where he's you know, that
kind of It's great. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I like the old like singer songwriter like Tom Waits
and Elvis Costello and guys like that that you know,
they'll tell a big, long, weird stories and their songs,
you know.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Right, Oh yeah, Oh dude, I heard this other guy.
I think it's a cover actually, but I heard him do.
His name is Ray Wiley Hubbard, I believe, and it's
like an eight minute song and I played it for
a friend. I go, dude, this is like a musical
podcast because the whole song is called Chalk Taw Bingo,
and the whole song is about them gonna they're gonna
go to a family reunion. And he's just like it
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looks like he's just looking at what he's seeing and
then just writing it down, you know. Up by the
gas station, we saw the soda and we got a
sprout and then we went back home. You know, it's
just like that. The whole thing is just like, then,
don't I just made it up. I don't know what
the real words are.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I am haaldan, I exhale and I and hal dan.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
I exhaled exactly and I lit until the cherry of
the cigarette dropped on the floor. Then uh smashed it
and turned my foot and then moved up there. And
he's just naming different things and things are going to happen,
And it was like, that's another one of those songs.
You're like, it's kind of like hypnotizes you into it.
That's that's Ray Wiley Hubbard. If you guys want to check,
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then chalk Tabingo.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Then there's Tuesday, then there's Wednesday and Thursday and Friday.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, dude, I know, uh like this guy's just telling me, Hey,
I want to ask about a couple of westerns. First
of all, we didn't even talk about this one, but
I want to know. I've heard of the phrase loan
no loan dove. Is it called loan dove?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Lonesome dove, lonesome dove.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I think it was like a series. I never watched
it never.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I never did either, to be honest, Okay, I do
it ex but I never watched Lonesome That's.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
All I know. And then I but I googled like
top Western books to listen to or read and that,
and it keeps coming up again and again and again.
So I might I might listen to it this summer,
but I just want to know if you've heard it
or for any of our listeners, I've listened to the
book or read the book Lonesome Dome.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
But they did a ton of movies, a ton of
like uh made for TV movies, and they got they
had like really good people like Robert Duvall I think
starred in the first one. But I've never seen any
of the movies, never read any of the books. Just
it was one of those things. I just never got
around to it. But I bet it's great, you know.
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I bet it's a really good stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I hope so, because I listened to the audiobook of
Empire of the Summer Moon and it was great. But
it was also based in reality like it would. It
wasn't like a fictional book. It was more like a
like a history lesson about how the Texas Rangers started
and how they started, you know, the whole you know,
from a it was it was a lot of stuff
about the late eighteen hundreds, and that was super interesting
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because you could listen to it and then go Google
and be like, oh, wow, that's the people he's talking about.
And I mean that was like fascinating.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
That was Did they cover like the family line of Walker,
Texas Ranger. Yeah, little did they know that one day
he would bear a child that looked like Chuck Norton.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Exactly, Chuck. No.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
No.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
But some of the even the one guy that really
put the Texas Rangers together like really started like made
him a force because a lot of times they get
ex soldiers from the Civil War and they would come
down and and so there were there was like a
ragtag group of guys and yeah when they I forget
the sheriff's name, but he really like spearheaded it. And
then but then eventually he even left and like went
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on to make a life for himself and was a
sheriff of like San Francisco, California. Because they said that
San Francisco was developed, New York was developed, you know, Paris,
all these places had skyscrapers, and you know they were
develop and then but right, but back in like you know,
eighteen seventy one in Texas and New Mexico and all
that it was, it could have been like seventeen seventy
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one or sixteen seventy one at that point.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, it's amazing how much was happening on Earth. Well,
I guess it's still that way, where like in one
area it was just bedlam, and in another era it
was like the height of civilization. And but like and
there were guys that lived through like they literally tamed
the West. You know, they're like wyattar Oh, yeah it was.
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He was a criminal for a little while. He was
a law man for a while. Yeah, before he died,
he was like technical advisor on Western movies. It's yeah,
you know, like what a life to have seen that
much of a change happened.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I guess the closest we have is the invention of
the Internet.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Right, Oh and AI even AI is different than just
the Internet, right.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah, like like we yeah, we've seen a couple of
things like that where it was like, oh, this thing
is gonna make the world different, you know, and like
for them it was like you know, uh, industry, the
industrial complex and electricity had to be just nuts to
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see that for the first time and see like a
light bulb get plugged in and you know, my gosh,
like wait, we don't have to use fire anymore. You know.
It was a sudden development, you know, right, you're telling me,
I don't have to go find a place in the
woods where a bear is not gonna attack me. I
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just do this in my house.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah. Oh yeah. I'm sitting here getting a mosquito bite
or whatever it was, and I'm like, oh, where's my
bottle back of the day, Like you'll put mud on
it or whatever, tobacco.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Right, yeah yeah, cut it off with a bowie knife
or whatever. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
So like an Empire of the Summer Moon. This book
that I listened to, it was so the son of
a chief who also became a chief. His name is
Quana Parker. Quana Parker, Now this guy think about this.
It was a Comanche Indian. He was born in eighteen
forty five. It's kind of like like white r how
you describe those different lives that he had. Quana Parker
was born in eighteen forty five. He died in nineteen eleven,
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but in eight you know, he was a warrior, you know,
in the early part of his life, but then he didn't,
you know, once they had the treaties and they got along.
He was actually taking a train to like Washington, d C.
Him and his the I was gonna say the assistant chief,
but like the other another chief or you know whatever.
His pal, his buddy is Campadre. And they were describing
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how like a lot of times when the natives would
go and stay in hotels in those big cities, like
it was it was a little bit dangerous because I think,
I don't I didn't quite understand it. But somehow there's
like pilot lights, and they didn't they've never stayed in
the hotel, so they didn't know how like the pilot
light thing works. So sometimes they would it could be dangerous,
you know, with with gassing themselves in the closed room
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or whatever, but.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Right, yeah, or you could blow it room up.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Exactly, think things like that. But like like that, My
point is is he went from like living in the
woods and you know, having a band of Indians and
doing raids to like eventually like he had a nice
house and you know, he would there's pictures with him
and Roosevelt like the president, and he had a you know,
he actually had a car, like he had a car
that he was driving back then. And it's incredible to
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go from like that to like, you know, and they
said that a lot of times he wouldn't talk about
his past, like okay, you know that was then. We're
not gonna you know.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, yeah, I get that. I think back then a
phrase was a lot more popular than it is now.
But I I would like to see it come back.
And that phrase is it's none of your business, right,
you know now that we live at this age where
everyone feels like owed an explanation for everything, right, Yeah,
(30:14):
it's like sometimes not everything needs to be documented or
tweeted or you know, put out what have you.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
You know, Oh, I just looked at so that he
actually acted in silent films, a few silent films. That's
pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Oh wow, you know that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Did you ever see a movie with Clint Eastwood? It
is called I think I told you on the phone,
what did I watch that?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I think, if I remember correctly, we were talking about
The Unforgiven.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yesiven I saw that the other night. It was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
It's one of the best westerns ever made. Uh they
named a hotel chain after it, did you know?
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I'm just gonna say, yeah, yeah, Western, Clinese would best Western.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
We'll leave a light on for you or whatever?
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Yeah, most I know that. I think you're thinking of
Motel six shooter.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Right, yeah, yeah shooter.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Somebody clip that. That's hilarious. Let's let's let's do a retake.
You say your line, I'll say my line. So have
you ever seen the Clin Eastwood? Have you ever seen
The Unforgiven?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
H Yeah, that may be the best Western ever made.
In fact, I think they named a hotel chain after it.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
We'll leave a light on for you. Sure it wasn't
Motel six Shooter. That's right. Pocket Party podcast After after
this episode, let's be like Diddy and have a freak.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Off three dirty dozen egg breakfast.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
These guys are freaky. They're like ice cream and you know,
bug spray. This is how crazy our parties. But yeah,
The Unforgiven, The Unforgiven?
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Great movie, Yeah, Sir Richard Harris in it English Bob
Gene Hackman one of his best parts ever. Directed by
Clint Eastwood. I don't know if he wrote it. I'm
sure he had a hand in the writing of it,
Morgan Freeman. Just this cast and some great dialogue. Yeah,
(32:31):
it won Best Picture the year it came out, and
I'm pretty sure that was the only time Clint Eastwood
won for direct No, he may have won since, but
I don't know. But but it was definitely the first
one he ever won.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
It's funny because I've seen.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
And it was also like the last western he made.
It was like kind of his final statement the genre
which he had been part of his higher career, Like
his big break was gun Smoke, you know, and uh,
he just kept working from there.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Oh yeah, I remember. And some of his directing style
was was he learned Oh.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah where I think it was Bradley Cooper. He worked
with him on American Sniper, and Uh, Bradley Cooper asked
him one day, he was like, uh, you always say action,
real quiet, and so sometimes I don't know, we're rolling
when you do that, And clintings would just kind of
(33:39):
chuckle to himself and he was like, Oh, that's an
old habit that I learned back on raw Hide. Uh.
We'd have a bunch of cowboys together on horses and
the director would go action and it would spook the
horses and they all run off of Yeah, and he
was like, So after a while we figured out we
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had all these guest directors come in because there was
a TV show, and we'd give them a whole spiel
of look when you say action, say it real clients.
Otherwise an hour to get everyone back.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Yeah, and this was Born the Horse Whisperer. Yeah, they yeah,
that movie. Really, it's a fantastic movie. If you guys
are looking for something this summer to watch, it's just yeah,
it tells a great story, great scenery, a lot of action. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
First two westerns I recommend to everyone, or that one
and Tombstone. They're both just phenomenal films.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
And they have great lines, things that stick with you.
I remember, like, it doesn't really I mean, there is
violence in The Unforgiven, but it doesn't glorified. In fact,
a lot of the characters learn from the violence. Yeah,
remember that Clint said.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Well, yeah, Clinton says, it's a hell of a thing
killing a man. You take away everything he's got and
everything he's ever gonna have. And this is like the
guy who in the eighties was kind of the poster
boy for violent action movies. And stuff, you know, and
like big firearms and gunplay and stuff like that. So
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hearing it coming from him and hearing just that kind
of tinge of remorse and the character he's playing in
the movie is a guy who's changed from being a
violent man to being a family man, you know, and
now having to go back to being violent. It was
really fascinating, and like I said, it was kind of
like his final word on all of that, and it
(35:41):
just made it so much better, you know. And he
puts so much thought into it because it's like he
brings what they call cinematic baggage to the screen, Like
just seeing him on screen, you're like, oh, something is
good is about to happen, you know, And he carries
(36:01):
all the weight of all these other characters he's portrayed.
And so when he was doing that movie, he was like,
I need someone that could believably intimidate me on screen.
And that's such a tall order. At that time in
his life, you know, he had so much power, you know,
(36:23):
and he cast Gene Hackman, and Gene Hackman, who was
so incredibly evil in the movie and so vicious that
it really worked. Like there's a scene in there towards
I don't want to ruin the movie, but he's beating
a guy up to deter other people in town from
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acting up basically, and he goes way too far and
he realizes it. He kind of like comes out of
this violent haze and he looks around and he sees
all the people in town are just terrified, and he's like, oh, like,
I've gone too far. And I and as I was
(37:06):
watching that scene, it's so powerful and so terrifying that
I was like, I don't know if he knows that
they're filming, like he's happened like some sort of weird
flashback or something.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
He was so good in it. I saw one of
the actors and I want to, like, I said, give
it away, but I saw another actor they describe what
was it like doing like this particular scene, and he
goes yeah, he goes, you know what when he said
that line, I believed him.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Yeah, you know, like yeah, and like everyone in it
is really good, but uh, but yeah, that's it was.
He was really at the top of his game in
that movie.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah. I love a movie where you're just you lost
it and you're actually enjoying it. You're not thinking, oh,
these are actors on a set running lines and there's
a yeah, and you know, I love that when it's
when you're like you're like drawn into it.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yeah, And Quinn east would like he's so iconic and
so interesting to watch on screen, like the you know
they say the camera loves people. The camera fucking loves
Clint Eastwood. And he cuts such an interesting figure on
film that there's a moment in there where it's just
(38:15):
him entering a bar and everyone just kind of stops
what they're doing looks at him. Yeah, and it's like,
very very few people can authentically pull that off and
make you believe it, you know that, like everything would
come to a grinding halt when this guy comes in
the room. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
And I saw another great film with him. It's not
a western, but it's just a really good movie that
I think people would really dig. They're doing construction next
door right now. Perfect.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
But oh you know what's good is I can't even
hear it. Oh good.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Okay, but that movie is called In the Line of Fire, Okay,
And Clint Eastwood plays a secret service agent who is
assigned to protect the president, but he had already been
one and kind of like was forced to resign in
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disgrace because he punched a politician or something like that.
But like, there's a guy gunning for this president and
it's John Malkovich and it was kind of like his
big break in movies, and he's terrifying in it, and
Clint Eastwood hand picked him for the part. Like he
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saw his audition taping. He was like, Oh, this guy's scary.
He's gonna be really good in there. And they're both excellent,
and Renee Russo's in it also. But it's just a
really terrific suspense film if you ever get a chance
to watch it.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Nice, nice, Well, we better wrap this one up, Mike.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Before we do very important thing for both of us. Really,
a buddy of ours at the comedy store, Cornelius James,
who works in the cerro's the pizza area. I see
him around. He's one of the friendliest, nicest dudes at
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the store. Works his ass off every night.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
I love that dude. Yes, his mom listens to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
By the way, his mom listens to the podcast, and
he told me one day, he was like, you know,
you and Darren are my mom's favorite comedians. So I
just wanted to wow and and say Hi, Corney's mom,
that's so cool. I hope you're enjoying the podcast and
(40:44):
hoping keep going for a long time.
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Oh, thank you. Thank you to Galaxy Goddess, another huge supporter,
and she sometimes does time stamps on episodes. And thank
you guys, Christopher McCrae, thank you guys so much, our
friends up in Canada, thank you. Oh my gosh man.
What I'm hoping is I can upload this like the
file won't be too big, and then we can we
can do more, you know, we can do more of
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these while I'm up here, you know, because it's great
talking with you and I love catching.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Up and you're like a quick best of for the
fourth or something, you know. Yeah, I think I will
like a sizzle reel or something, you know.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Yeah, exactly, sizzling.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
It's fireworks, even the old rathmatas for the four.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Yeah, that's right, sir, Oh right, Mike Black, thank you
so much, and thank you all right. We'll talk soon.
Get some ice cream. We'll talk soon. Bye bye.
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