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April 21, 2025 63 mins







Join comedians Darren Carter and Mike Black, hot off their Comedy Store gigs, for a wild ride of laughs and stories! In this episode, they dive into Darren’s adoption journey, debate the allure of Girl Scout cookies, reminisce about Pizza and Pipes Restaurant, geek out over the 1922 Wurlitzer theatre pipe organ, and share hilarious tales involving a balloon castle, glow-in-the-dark antics, and Chuck E. Cheese nostalgia. Expect unfiltered comedy, quirky tangents, and much, much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Start the party, and you're your holes there my bill?
Good idea? Oh my bill, A good idea? No good
Darren Carter, Party Starter, Pocket Party Podcast and.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Your holes holright up, Love you buddy, Thanks for being
on all right, two to second one in the morning.
I hope your neighbors. I hope your neighbors are used
to this. I got a drum set man. They've heard worse.
I don't like their dog. Anything you want to say.
In closing, yeah, I don't like their dog. That was
my closer. Come back, will you? Yeah, we win my house.

(00:35):
Will you come exactly? I've inviting him back and I'm
in his home. He's like, get the hell out of here.
Let's go get some hash Browns. All right, good Pocket
Party and we're back everybody again, Thank you for tuning
into the Pocket Party Podcast. Did I just hang up
on my guest? That was really weird? Darren Carter, The

(00:57):
Party Starter, Pocket Party Podcast, calling mister Mike Black right here,
right now, We're gonna start a party in your ear holes.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Hello, Hey, how's it going?

Speaker 2 (01:10):
It's going good? Did I just hang up on you?
It ring once and then hung up. That was weird? Okay,
maybe that was just like something, Hey, but you're here now,
how is it? How is your Halloween?

Speaker 3 (01:26):
I think it went really.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, So guys listen to this. They my computer is
in the shop, so normally I record these upload them
that day. Right now, we're just having blind faith. I'm like,
let's record it. My computer's in the shop. I'm gonna
go perform at the laugh Factory in San Diego, and

(01:47):
hopefully when I get back, the computer will be out
of the shop and this will be uploaded. And but
I think the thing is, we're supposed to a Halloween
special podcast, and this may not go up until the
actual Halloween, like the day of Halloween.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Yeah, that'll be fine. Get everyone ready for trigger treating.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, unless my computer takes longer. Then it'll be like, hey, dude,
how was your Thanksgiving?

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, let's not. Let's plan for victory.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Rather than exactly, we'll just stack like a bunch of
podcasts together and just cover all the holidays.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Now, Darren, I'm going to ask you.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
I'm going to turn the tables here and ask you
a question.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
You're of the of the friends I have, and you
can take this as a compliment or an insult. You're
probably the biggest goodie two shoes. I know.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Oh, are you the.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Type that gives kids toothbrushes and toothpaste and Halloween?

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Oh that's funny. I don't, but I know I don't
do that.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
I personally think that ought to be a hanging offence, right,
you ought to just or apples or celery anything.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, your kid's got to get
on the right track. And I'm just the guy to
do it for you. No. No, I wouldn't do it that.
I would. In fact, I saw someone do that. I
was reminded of this yesterday. You know. They there was
some Girl Scouts selling Girl Scout cookies by the local
grocery store one year, and I remember this guy was
just laying into him and like, you know, like and

(03:27):
then the father, yeah, for selling Yeah, for selling cookies.
And then the dad was like, hey, come on, the
girl Scouts. They're trying to raise money for their And
then and then the guy was like, why you guys
peddling this this sugar. It's bad for your body. It's yeah.
He was just really laying and the guy go and
then the dad was like, he was like, dude, he goes,
it's it's a wholesome thing. It's like I have diabetes

(03:49):
and then the guy just cut him off and he
goes and you should know better, And I was just like, man,
can't the kids just sell Girl Scout cookies?

Speaker 4 (03:55):
It's like geese, you know, if it was adults, if
it was like Lady Scout cookies or something like that,
I can see having a beef with them.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, yeah, your ladies.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Quit selling these cookies. You're forty five years old.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
You should know better, right.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
But these kids didn't broker the deal with the cookie company.
It's you know, they're they don't have anything else to sell.
Lemonade that's got twice as much sugar as cookies.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
You know, yeah, and it I mean, come on, it's like.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
The stuff kids can sell, you know, that's pretty much it.
Cookies are lemonade, right.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, And it's like everything in moderation, am I right?
It's like you know, I mean, you know, you do
you eat the Girl Scout? I mean, look I say that,
and then I have eaten a whole sleeve.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
So yeah, but they're not forcing you too. They didn't,
you know, right, And they sell them at a crazy price,
like five bucks of bucks if you're o ding on
Girl Scout cookies.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
You might have too much money.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Right, you know there, that's not the point. It's the
fundraiser part of it is, you know exactly. It's like
the kids that sell the you know, chocolate bars that
are like a dollar you know that. I guess that
used to be outrageous. Now that's a bargain, you know, Yeah,
you can get one for that price.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
You know what we've done is a lot of times, well,
my my wife, I don't want to take credit. She'll buy, like,
you know, fifty bucks worth the Girl Scout cookies or
whatever from one of the you know parents, and then
and she'll give them to me. And then I'll just
pass them out, like I'll go to different comedy clubs
and be like, you want Girl Scout cookies? And I
think at first, the way I was phrasing the question,
I think people thought I was selling them and I
was like, no, no, I'm giving them to you. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

(05:40):
like that, I'd be like, you know, like you want
girl Scout cookies cause I got extras, I'm giving them away.
I made sure I said that, like not.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
That would be such a I wouldn't put it past
the comic to do that, like I'm gonna upsell these
girl Scout cookies.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
I'm gonna flip them.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yeah, you know him for five.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Exactly, Guys, I'll be selling my merch and girl Scout cookies.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
You know. Like that's how Johnny Sanchez type move.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, dude. There was a guy that was so lazy.
Uh one year in our building. He was a single dad.
He had a lot of motorcycles and like just all
kinds of vehicles, man, like I had, Like he told
me his story one day. Nothing I asked, but he
was like, yeah, I'm divorced and I'm living over here,
but I you know, I love my you know. So

(06:32):
he had like I'm telling you, like anything you'd want,
like motorcycles, dirt bikes, vans, like sport cars.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah, and he uh all he.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Had a law Yeah. Like not that I'd want that,
but it was just interesting. I would be like, oh wow,
the guy always a different vehicle and.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Don't want a motorcycle.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Well when I saw the motorcycle, it did take me
back to my childhood because I used to have a
Suzuki Won eighty five dirt bike and uh not childhood,
but like teenage years and so I was like, oh,
that's so cool.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
But when you you know, when you're leading your double
life as Joe, he's gonna beat a vehicle.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, definitely, I know, right, Tahojo. Two mirrors on each handlebar,
That's right. That's what takes my Suzuki legal. That's what
it was. It was. It was a one. Yeah, that
dirt bike was legal. Man, it was you could you
could take it on the on the freeways of Fresno
at least. And hey, that's that will be the name

(07:34):
of our side project, the Freeways of Fresno and Mike Black. Yeah,
and Mike Black right again. Yeah, we'll have a motorcycle
with a sidecar. Either you'll be in the sidecar or
I'll be in the sidecar.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
Yeah, it's your motorcycle, but I make you sit the
sidecar exactly.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Mike go faster and you're like, Mike, slow down. We've
got to pick up more Girl Scout cook cookies for
the community. Yeah, and he ten mint stat they Yeah.
So this guy, he was the laziest, uh when it

(08:15):
came to that, it was hilarious. He actually took pictures
of the Girl Scout cookies posted them on a on
a poster board in the laundry room and had his
phone number, call me if you want cookies.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
And I was like, oh wow, real sketchy.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah. He was just like I'm not going around in
public with this. I'm just if you want them, here's
where they are, you know. Yeah, knock on my door
four times.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Oh wait it was a guy selling them barely.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, he's a father, single dad. He was like, yeah,
he was selling. He was a single dad, but he
was just he had the pictures of the cookies and
the phone number in his apartment number like call or knock.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
They should have specific girl Scout cookies, four single dads
to sell, you know. They just have a picture of
him depressed on the box, just drinking coffee and a
diner alone.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
With one of his various motorcycles parked up front.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Single dad, girl Scout, please buy them? So he doesn't
do anything.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Rat yeah now with peanut butter.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Him signing his divorce paper. Yeah, a bunch of tinman's.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
He was one of those guys. Every time I'd see him,
I would be like, I hate I hate to say this,
but I just didn't. I would always sort of avoid him,
you know what I mean. Like guy, because he just
kind of came across as like making up for something.
So he was always friendly, but kind of arrogant and cocky,
and I was just like, you know, the few interactions
I had with them, like after that was pretty pleasant.

(09:47):
Like would be in the elevator and he'd have like
a date or something, and I'd be like, how's it going.
And that's when he'd be friendly, usually when he was
with someone like, hey, how's it going, But when he
was by himself, I was like, I don't want to
be around this.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Guy, like you know, yeah, but yeah, that would get old.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
You ever have neighbors like that where you're you you
want to you just be friendly and but you don't
want to engage too much.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
I'm like that with all of my neighbors.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Oh they're nice people and everything, but they're all like
family people, and I'm like a single dude, So it's
kind of.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
So eventually they're gonna ask you to do favors and stuff. Hey, Mike,
you're single, can you keep an eye on our dogs
and cats and water our plants and right?

Speaker 4 (10:27):
Yeah, and like, uh, just I don't do a lot
of entertaining either, Like at my place, I'd rather just
like have my space my space.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
And you know, did I lose you?

Speaker 2 (10:40):
No? No, no, I hit mute.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Okay, do you think.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
I was just curious. I'm like, well, I wonder if
your voice is a lot clearer if I hit mute. So,
but it's not. It doesn't work because in the interaction, right, Yeah,
I don't know, because you know, like when someone's talking,
you kind of want someone in the background going oh.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Uh huh interesting.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, and then when it's just super silent, sure you
sound louder, but.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
You're like yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
But I was like, yeah, we lost each other. But yeah,
so anyways, yeah, I was. I remember seeing something that
once on on online. This guy was giving tips and
he's like he goes, as a former police officer, like
he had all these different jobs he did, and he goes,
I've lived in like, you know, twenty four different neighborhoods

(11:30):
or whatever. He said. Said. Yeah, he said that the uh,
some of the deadliest crimes or or domestic violence is
between neighbors, and uh he opened yeah, yeah, he opened
it up with like a little video of that happening
where there are two people's yelling at each other over
the property line. And the tree or whatever it was,

(11:51):
and he goes, I can just tell you. He goes,
I'm very friendly, blah blah blah. But when it comes
to neighbors, he goes, I'm not doing any barbecues. I'm
not doing any getting together because I'm just not going
to do that. It's like I'll I'll wave and say hi,
but that's as far as I go. I'm not trying
to because sometimes those things turn and now you're a
place of what you just said, like your place of comfort,

(12:11):
your space, You're you're you know, you're finally I can home.
Now you're all like you're getting that not in your
stomach when you're coming down your own street and you're like,
oh gosh, are they going to be out there? So right,
I thought, that's great, great advice.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
Yeah, Like I I even when it comes to like
petty stuff, I try not to worry too much, like
for the longest time, and I think their kids just
grew out of it. But my neighbors, I guess they
were getting amazing deals on balloon castles. Oh yeah, but
the the power cord that they needed set it up

(12:48):
in such a way where I literally had to smash
into the balloon castle to get out of my apartment.
And I was like, I could a dick about this
and be like, hey, you know, move the balloon castle
or whatever. But I was like, it's not. It's really
not worth it to get the big fight because now

(13:10):
all of a sudden, you're the guy that ruined Kyle
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
When you say smash, you mean like not with with
your car or no, I.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Mean like I would open my door and.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
Staircase that leads down, but at the edge, at the
edge of that, the balloon castle is like pushed up
against it, so I would have to like mush my
waist it's through to get out.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Yeah, And the kids were would look at me like
are you coming in the ballue tessel? Like no, I'm
just trying to get to a commercial audition, sir.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
You have to take your shoes off before you go
into the balloon castle.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
I know the rules, Natalie.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Do you know I'm trying to make it in this town.
I don't have time to relax in a balloon castle.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
One day he'll have a real castle and none of
you will be invited.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Man, I wish they had balloon castles when we were kids,
Like that would have been so fun to see something
like that. You know, those big old bounce houses and stuff.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
Well, they had kind of that. They had a thing
in Colorado. We had a couple of places that were crazy,
like Chuck e Cheese type places, but bigger. There was
one in Cinderella City shopping center called Fantastic Oh Cool,
and it was like a giant baze And there was

(14:32):
the World's largest teddy Bear. It was in there, and
I'm sure it got Pete on every day.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Ew. I was just gonna say when you the first
part when you said the world's I was gonna be like, oh,
was that your nickname?

Speaker 4 (14:43):
Mike? No, that was not.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
The world's largest teddy Bear.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
No, I was even as a kid, I was not cuddly,
but yeah, but there was all sorts of fun, Like
there was a room that.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Just had black light in it.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
Stuff like that. You know, uh oh remember the slide.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
And black light was such a cool thing when you
were a kid. Like glowing the dark stuff, anything like
glowing the dark shirts, blowing the dark frisbees.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Well, they had like a wall that I thought was
as a kid, I thought it was amazing, But it
was a wall that was basically made out of glow
in the dark material and they would shine a really
bright light in the room and then you would go
up against the wall and like make a shadow, and

(15:32):
then the lights would turn out and you would see
it like the silhouette glowing around you.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
And so it was really cool.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
And then I saw some like video about atomic bombs
that that happened to actual people, where like, whoa, there, silhouette.
The blast was so powerful that their silhouette was like
grafted onto the building.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
And after that it kind of weirded me out.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
That's what you get what you get for learning, Mike.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
I was like, this isn't as fun as it used
to be.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
But they had like the big pool of balls. Oh yeah,
sounds a lot worse than it is, but yeah, I
used to really dig stuff like that. If the gym
was actually that, I would be more inclined to go
to the gym.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
Climbing around in tunnels and caves and stuff like that,
doing jumping into a big ball pitch, you know, I
would go to that gym.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Man, It's funny you described that as a kid. You
know what we had in Fresno. We had a place
called Pizza and Pipes. Okay, did you ever You guys
didn't have that, did you?

Speaker 4 (16:49):
No?

Speaker 2 (16:49):
No, So the big attraction was that there was a
giant organ that that would be playing organ music as
you're eating pizza. Oh okay, And apparently they I think
they were just mostly California or like the West coast.
But I just looked this up right now, I said.
The most famous person to play that organ was none
other than Albert Hayes Molette, best known for setting the

(17:10):
Lord's Prayer to music.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Oh, I bet he was fun at party.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Exactly our father who are in heaven. It would be
the name exactly to Oregon. Oh yes, he says, like
the main.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
You're at a party and you're like, what do you do?

Speaker 3 (17:30):
I'm a cop?

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Oh exactly.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
The parties over everybody.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
I work at the local mortuary. But it's like, oh,
I also have a side business called pizza and pipes.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
I do dentistry on the side.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Oh gosh, we got let's hang out.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
Yeah but yeah that.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
No. We had a place.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
In Colorado and Aurora called Crystal's Pizza Palace, and it
was as a humongous mansion. I guess everything's humongous when
you're a kid, but I saw it as an adult
and I was like, this thing is huge, and they
do like it's one of those properties.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
It closed down, but now they have no idea what
to do with it.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
But that's prime. It was this humongous mansion filled with
It was kind of before video games really took hold,
but it was all sorts of like clown and juggling
and puppets.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
And you know, crazy crap.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
Yeah, and pizza, you know, and they had an organ
in there. And I remember thinking, this is the best
place in the world.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
This is gonna be around forever.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
And it closed like it's I'm sure it took a
lot to keep the doors open.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
By the way, I just found a pizza and yeah,
I'm sorry. You add anything to the word pizza and
it's gonna be good, right, Pizza and pipes, pizza castle.
You know, you could put a rat in there. Like cheese.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
It's like, you know, kids were all for tuck e.
Cheese was so fun.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Like the evolution in Colorado was there was a place
called straw Hat Pizza and they had like a couple
video games and stuff and you know, pizza and that
was it. And then the show Biz Pizza Happened, which
had all the animatronic.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Like the.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Bumpkin sort of bear played the banjo, and there was
a lion that was an Elvis impersonator.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Oh that's cool, and get it. He's the King.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Yeah, the King. That was him. And then they kind
of merged with Chuck E. Cheese who had you know,
Chucky was an animatronic thing. But they had people like
go around in costume, you know, you know, kind of
like Disneyland, but very low budg Disneyland, you know. But

(20:01):
they had like a ton of video games and that
was about as good as being a kid got that was.
That was like going to Vegas for a kid. Oh yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Know see it. Yeah yeah. We had black beards and
frostent We had black beards and it was like a
miniature golf.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
It's just a guy.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
He makes who pizza rolls in his apartment.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Tell me I had a great time.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Black beards. I gotta die my beard every Friday night.
Get ready for the weekend.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
I don't have peanut butter jelly kid I have.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
I can get you some Natella and melvotos.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Ye turns out I just saw this. There's a Facebook
group called Pizza and Pipes, and it's all people writing
down their memories of pizza. You know this this one guy?
He writes, Uh, I went to the Campbell location in
the nineteen seventies. I remember my mom giving me tip
money to request the Star Wars theme song from the organist.

(21:06):
Yeah that's cool.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
That would be a fun song to hear while you're
eating pizza.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
See, I knew, I knew I'd hook you in.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
Yeah, I'm still not going to to go.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
How was the pizza do you remember?

Speaker 2 (21:26):
I don't remember, because the organ is what really you
go there for the organ I'm sure it was good.
But like, my favorite growing.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
Up was was Me and Eds, Me and eggs.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, Me and Eds, like Ed like your friend named Ed, Like,
it's me and Eds and I still I always I
loved me and EDGs up until recently. Man, I I
don't know. During the pandemic, I go to like a
couple of different me and Eds and I'm like, it
just isn't the same. I don't know what's happening. I
don't know if the staff making the pizza isn't the same.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Pandemic is happening.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah, although there Yeah, there was another place we'd go
to called Boston Pizza, Boston House of Pizza, and that
was really good.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Is Boston known for its pizza?

Speaker 2 (22:07):
I don't know. That's what's weird, right, Like, and then
the locations are like they're out in the country, they're
not even Like.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
There was a place maybe you guys had them for
a while called Rocky Rococo's Pizza.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
I don't remember.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
And it the logo it looked like Sean penn wearing
a disguise.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
That's funny.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
And it was like a bit too much for Colorado
because like they opened up I remember that, Like, coming
through Rocky Pizza.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
You could tell it's Sean pennon disguise by his checkered vans.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Yeah, and everyone in Colorado would look at that sign
like it was a curd. They're like what And then
it closed down like six weeks later.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Oh, it's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Like people just weren't ready for Rocky Rococo.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
I love how people get all excited when a new
rest front comes to town, like you know, like, oh boy,
we're finally gonna get Crispy Kreme Donuts and there's like
a line around the block.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
Yeah, and like back when people gave directions to each other,
like you'd stop and ask for directions, you could tell
what the town was proud of, because then you're like, now,
that's six blocks from the new McDonald's. Yeah, I know
they were.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Or when they give you directions on where something used
to be, you know where the burger King used to be,
You're like, oh, I don't I'm not there anymore.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
I don't even I'm not Yeah, I don't live here.
I don't know where that.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
I just got off a plane an hour ago. I
don't know where.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
The whole reason I'm asking you for directions is because
I don't know stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
By the way, I was in Provo, Utah last weekend,
and man, talk about a uh dude, it looked like
time froze and the nineteen forties.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Fifties or sixties in Provo.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Well, I film, I filmed a special. There's these things
called dry bar comedy specials dry or yeah, dry bar comedy,
and those those videos. Man, they get millions of views
and it's a I mean they really, they're like a machine.
They put it out on you know, every platform, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube,
We get millions of views and if a comic wants

(24:16):
to work clean and wants to get a special out there.
That's like, Okay, let me just see if I can
do this challenge you do. For this one, we were
doing between twenty and twenty five minutes. They said you
could actually go up to twenty eight minutes. And we
taped two shows, an early show a late show in
a little theater that's there, and they have all these
you know, the cameras, the audiences, Mike, I mean, they

(24:37):
got it down and they even they've even sprung up
and have like you know, you know comedy. You know,
they do like these tours, dry bar comedy tours like
all over. It's pretty cool, man. It's like a whole
like thing that's happening. And the Yeah, I thought the
same thing at the Oh Provo, but it's like that's
where the headquarters are. And I went there and it's

(25:00):
a man, I gotta tell you, it looked like time froze.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
Man.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
It looked really nice. It was, uh, it was like
in the fifties the sixties like that. That at least
the day that I was there, the two days I
was there, like everything was really clean. I didn't see
any graffiti. I saw all these cool like barber shops
and coffee shops, and I mean, I mean there was
like modern you know, diners, and like the food was

(25:24):
modern and the people were modern. But as far as
like it looked like a Disney type of vibe at
least the day or two I was there, you know
what I mean, Like it was just free parking, Like
you could park on the street for free. The only
thing it would say is like, you know, in a
couple of places, I saw like, you know, two hour
time limit and it said at the end of two hours,
just move your car and put it on a different block.

(25:46):
You know, they don't want you to just backing up
like three inches or whatever.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Right, Yeah, that's a that's a reasonable request.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, it was. I remember I used to take an
acting class in off off of them, I think Fairfax
or somewhere over there, and they would mark your they
drive by and mark your tires or chalk. So we
would just go like wipe it off, you know. Yeah, yeah,
you'd wipe it off, or you'd What I would do

(26:17):
is I turn my wheel, my front wheel toward the curb,
so the front wheel would really stick out almost like hey,
this is the tire you want to mark Big Boy,
and they'd always mark that tire. I'd always mark that.
You know, they're they're lazy. Man. People are lazy. You know.
If you're gonna stick a tire out, it's like that's
the one they're gonna and then I would just wipe

(26:38):
it off.

Speaker 5 (26:41):
Yeah, the whole thing is stupid, that that you're making
plans on how to attract the tire marker and that
they're actually marking.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, I might as well have to post it note
like this one, this is the one I want you
to mark.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
You know, this is this is just dumb.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
But yeah, but if you've got one of those tickets,
it was like you're looking at like sixty seventy bucks.
I know, you got like a parking ticket back then,
and for a broke actor and they knew who they
were doing it. I know, that's a lot of money.
A lot of people were like, well, I guess I
have to move back to Vermont or whatever.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
You know, yeah I don't have seventy bugs.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
And then that, you know, yeah, it can add up
and you're like, you know, you're in debt.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
You hit three auditions a day and you have to
jump through fifty flaming hoops to park. Oh yeah, that
was a nightmare.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
I know.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Although now it's all you know, self tape auditions, and
I don't know if that's.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
A lot better.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
By the way, did I we Well, it's going to
tell you two things. I booked a movie. I don't
know if we've talked about that. And I booked a
Was it a Halloween movie? Oh yeah, we should do
some more Halloween talk. No, it wasn't. It was a
It was a movie. It's called Born Again, and it's
the lead is Paul Rodriguez, Gary Buse, he's in the movie.

(28:08):
Edward James, almost Danny Trejo, Jay Moore, uh, Daisy Duke.
Catherine Bach is in the movie. Ye Emilio Rivera. He
was the leader of the Mayans. If you watch the Motorcycle.
I'm probably leaving out a lot of actors as well,

(28:28):
but it was Uh yeah, it's cool that the main character,
Paul Rodriguez, his character is in. It opens up with
their in prison and he's about to get out, and
I'm the lead correction officer and dude, I got to
see the trailer and I'm the minute it starts, I'm
in there. They do a close up of my face.
I'm in all the openings. It's so cool, Mike. I

(28:49):
couldn't believe it. I was like, wow, like, so hopefully
they leave that trailer just like that, because I'm like,
you know, it opens up with me like yelling at
the prisoners and I'm running down there and I'm breaking it up.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Up and oh that's very.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
And then it cuts to Paul's character getting his civilian
clothes and as a joke, we we don't give him
as real clothes. We give him a priest outfit. And
then he's like, what is it? And so that's what
the that's where the movie starts Born Again, where he
you know, basically pretends to be like a TV preacher
and then you know, oh yeah yeah, and plus like

(29:26):
you know, like it's it's uh, yeah, it was. It
was really fun and it was great filming and it's ah.
I remember we filmed down an Orange County at a
sound stage, and I think my call time was something
like six thirty in the morning, and so I was like, well,
let me just get there really early, dude. I don't
know if you've driven on the freeways at like five am.
There's no traffic.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Oh yeah, it's great.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
I think I left at five and I was there
by like five thirty. I'm like, wow, this never happens
like a normal world, you'd have to give yourself two hours.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (29:58):
I had a thing like out kind of in the boonies
of northern California, and I was running late, and I
was like, I'm not gonna make it on time.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
I'm not gonna make it on time.

Speaker 7 (30:10):
But I realized that was kind of between the morning
and lunch rush and there's no traffic. And I got
there exactly on time, and I was like, wow, it
really makes a difference how much traffic could mess with you.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
You know.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
That's that is true. By the way, we got some reviews.
I want to new reviews Pocket Party Podcast. Thank you.
We asked and we received, so thank you Pocket. By
the ways, if you guys want to get your review read,
go to iTunes, go to Apple and leave a review.

(30:45):
Give us please. If you like the show five stars
in a review, tell them Mike, tell them how much
it helps.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Yeah, it helps a whole lot.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
It sure does. I was hoping you I was gonna
try to drink some water as you were talking.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
Yeah, take it.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Away, Mike.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
It really helps a lot to leave not just a review,
but leave a comment to some kind. That helps all
the algorithms and logarithms, all.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
The rhythms, oh yeah, rhythm of the night.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Yeah, it helps, the lombarda, all of it. Yeah, it's
it's just really good. It's a good way of supporting
without having a you know, give us any money. Basically
you can just support very much by doing that, you know.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
All right, here we go, Thank you so much. Here
we go. This is from Uptown Strange. They're right, it's
three fifty five and I can't sleep. Love the podcast.
Heaters love it. The next one is from fig ninety
Legit Pocket Party. Darren Carter has one of the kindest spirits,
is one of the most legit performers. The man is

(31:56):
a self party starter has the best collection of friends
and experiences upon which to draw upon. If I had
to describe him in one word, that it's friendly. The
man writes, produces, and delivers. I remember seeing him perform
at the Beverly Hills Friars Club on an Ari David show,
and I met my best friend in comedy, mister James

(32:16):
Price Jr. Fat James who was on the show but
was too fat to take the steps, so we took
our chances on the elevator and it was one of
the funniest shows I've ever went to. Darren. By the way,
I have not read this yet. I only read the
first part, and it was one of the funniest shows
I ever went to. Darren Carter is someone you can

(32:37):
share his catalog of work to a friend and your
friend will thank you for that. Is so nice. We
need fig ninety.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
Oh okay, we need more.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Guys like Darren Carter in comedy, but there is only one,
so you better recognize. Also, he is a great character
actor and his time is going to come because the
man has put in the work and dispenses original comedy
and he makes it look easy and it ain't. Cheers well,
Fig ninety, thank you fig ninety.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
Yeah, that was awesome because I remember James Price, Fat James.
He was called or Chips. He had a few man
of many names. He was a doop singer, an Elvis impersonator,
Steve Simone's notorious roommate. He but he was He was

(33:29):
a real character and a real original, and.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
I remember he had the pompadour and uh yeah, he
was always friendly. I think. Man.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
He worked a lot at the Comedy Store for a
long time there, and he was one of those guys
that he would give you the shirt off his back.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
All he had to do was ask.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
And like, I was doing a lot of roadwork and
he told me one day, he was like, if you
ever need a ride from the airport, just let me know,
you know. And my mom used to work for United
and would fly out every now and again to visit.
And one time she came to the store and made
him some tacos and brought them to him, you know,

(34:15):
just for working a lot. And he never forgot it.
He was like, say hi to your mom for me everything,
you know. Like, but he was a real sweetheart. He
passed way too soon, but I just it was cool
that they mentioned his name, I know.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
And I found out later through Steve Simone. I guess
he was a huge Elvis Presley fan.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Huge. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
I wish I would have known that, you know.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
But yeah, you know, you get to know different things. Yeah,
a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Who we've lost.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
Not to get too down, but like you hear some
little thing about them and you're like, I wish I'd
taken the time to get to know them better, you know.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Yeah. They Yeah, like that guy, I remember I told
you on the previous So it was his birthday and
I was at that restaurant and he turned one hundred
and three. Yeah, it was actually pretty interesting. That's the thing.
Maybe that guy is like, I'm not waiting until my
oldbituary comes out. I'm dropping knowledge now. Because that guy
was like, I fight under Paton. They call me Bazuka Joe,

(35:16):
my Bazuka took down, you know, and he just goes
on and on and he open I opened two theaters.
He would just tell me all this information. I got
a golden ticket. I can see any movie at any time.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
I ate the first Campbell Soup can.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Yeah. And I tell my wife all that, and she
was funny. She goes, Gosh, that guy brags a lot.
She goes, I wonder if he was like that when
he was like younger, Like I go, I don't know,
but maybe there's something happening. When you reach one hundred
and three, you're like, you know what, I'm laying it
all out there.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
You know what, that's all he's got at one hundred
and three. You know your own horn a little bit.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Yeah, I know. I mean that's hey, listen, I'm sitting
here reading podcast reviews about myself on the but I
want to encourage people, Like if you guys it to you,
you could anywhere in there. You could say, you know,
I love the show blah blah blah, signed and you
could put your you know, your Instagram, handle, your whatever,
so you like, I don't mind, I'll plug you guys.
Got It's a we're a It's a reciprocal sort of

(36:14):
reciprocal situation here, man, like a we're family. You know
what I mean? Like you you keep us motivated and
we keep you guys entertained hopefully, and you know, I
love it. I don't see it, Like I said, my
computers in the shop, so I have to use my
iPad to read those two reviews. But if I if
I could, I would have pulled up real quickly. Some
of the comments lately on the YouTube channel Darren Carter

(36:35):
on YouTube D A R R I, and people are like, hey,
I missed you guys. I'm so glad because we took
a week off. I'm glad you guys are back. It's
like I love reading stuff like that. It just lets
you know people you know, you keep.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Now it's your turn to stall them.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Okay, you keep.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
If I can pull up here YouTube.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
I'll stall them. Just look at any of the Pocket
Party podcast episodes. If you go to the comment section,
you could read some of these comments that people have left,
and you know, I'll talk a little bit about the
special if there's any comedians or up and coming comedians
out there. It was the first time in a long
time that actually made a set list, you know, where
I actually wrote down. I want to make sure I

(37:14):
say these jokes, these stories because usually when I perform,
I'm just freestyling up there. I kind of know I'm
gonna open up with this, and I sort of know
I'm gonna go in this area about you know, I'm
gonna do some stuff about my wife and some stories,
and then I'll maybe go down this road and the
next thing, you know, I'm talking a little bit about
my son, and then maybe I'll go over here and

(37:36):
talk about you know.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Health inside on your last episode.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Oh cool, lay out a couple other comments I'm gonna
hit so they can really hear you really well.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
Go ahead, So do you want me to do it
or not?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Well, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm gonna hit mute
so there won't be any background noise, but I'm still
here listening, okay.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
Tobias Kazito Keverra Cazito writes, missed you, guys, one Canadian bacon.
To be clear, guys, I listened to the old episodes
on a playlist when I'm done watching TV and ready
for bed, and I listened to the newer ones at
least two times all the way through. But today I'm

(38:20):
listening to today, I'm listening to it waking up. Trust me.
I noticed the two week gap in programming, but I
also noticed the shorts you put out are getting huge,
so your live shows are still pulling in new YouTube fans.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Yeah, baby, oh baby, thank you man, thanks for noticing
you always wonder does anyone care? Does anyone notice? Thank
you man? That means a lot.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
Well, let's see Drew Hillman a great episode of the
podcast Captain Short and Sweet one Canadian maple. I want
to get his whole name, but it cuts off. Oh.
He literally wrote, oh akkkkkk T take it. I've been

(39:03):
waiting for this all week, freaks, I've been waiting for
this all week Freaks.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
It cut off a little early.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Yeah, Darren come back to the Oakland area from Andrew b.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
So that that was all of them.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Oh cool, cool, yeah, thank you man, Thank you guys. Mike.
If this thing blows up, man, wouldn't that be cool?
Like we could actually like start making appearances, you know,
like oh yeah, I mean we did one. We did
wine at Burbank at the at Flappers. That was like
a little teaser to see what it would be. Like.
I mean, what's great about that is, uh, not only

(39:41):
do we do stand up. I kind of like how
you and I interacted, like we were on stage and
we kind of prompt each other, like you know, it's.

Speaker 4 (39:49):
Fun to get up there and rip a little bit together, you.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Know, right you. I remember when I was on stage,
you were like, Darren, tell us about your your original name.
And I was thinking like, oh, he wants me to
do like my jokes, like you know, like I'm not
I'm not Darren, I'm Doron or you know, Darren Carter.
I grew up in a Latino neighborhood Andres Luis and
me Darren Darren Carter AKA And then you were like no, no, no,

(40:15):
the original and I was like the original and then
I was like pull him. Then the light bulb hit.
I'm like, oh wow, he wants me to go there.
And it was funny because on the podcast I'd mentioned
to him that, you know, excuse me. I mentioned to
him that I was adopted and grew up in a
foster home and originally my name was not Darren Carter,

(40:36):
and uh, I was you know.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
It was your original name.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
I'll tell you. It's like I was conceived on a
biker run. My father was in a notorious motorcycle club
and it was they were yeah, it was it was.
They were known as the Hell's Angels. You could you
guys can look this up. This is fact. Go to YouTube.

(41:01):
You could see my father in an interview and uh
with Peter Jennings I think interviewed him and stuff in
the sixties. But yeah, they were on a biker run,
like Tahoe. Uh, that's where I was conceived. And then
nine months later I was born in June and my
name was going to be Tahoe Joe Joe and I

(41:25):
and I had a belt that had the word Tahoe
Joe up until I was about eight years old.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
You know, Oh, a new belt that I know, a
big Tahojoe belt buckle on it.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
I know it's funny because when you said that, it's
that's what's great about being comedians. As long as we've
been doing it, we're you know, we're still uh, we're
uncomfortable but yet comfortable, if that makes sense. Like I
was uncomfortable because I was like, oh, well, I've never
said this out loud on the microphone in front of
a group of people, but let's do it. But then
the comedian part of me that's comfortable with thought, well,
let's make it funny, and I go and I go.

(41:58):
You know, guys, if I was if my name really
he was Tahoe Joe, I think this would be a
completely different show. Would be like, come out down, check
out taho Joe. He does twelve different types of whistling.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
You know.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
Well, there'd be like whole dancers on the sides of
the stage and like maybe someone who does like a
fire breathing act or I just picture gentleman Joe.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
He's wearing leather fringe and a coonskin cap.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
Yeah, part of your show would be like firing off
six guns, you know, into the sky, you know, like
that twirling them and stuff.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
It did. I remember, I know, right, I remember the
day I I called my my real father. You know,
I had God rest his soul. He passed away this summer.
But you know, it was about twenty years ago, and
I thought, you know, I, you know how you have
those things that you're like, wow, one day, I'll do it.

(43:00):
You know, whatever that thing is, one day, I'll do
it one day. Well, that that day was coming up
because my mother had passed away and I only met her, well,
I knew her when I was a kid. I get
to do the bi monthly visits every other weekend, and
then until I was around seven or eight, you know,

(43:21):
nine somewhere in there, maybe ten maybe ten, I know, right,
and then I saw it. No, no, it was way younger.
It was. It was definitely eight or nine that age. No,
it wasn't wasn't twelve, but I saw her twice thirteen. No,

(43:41):
that would be oh that would be crazy. Eighth grade. No, no, no, no, no,
it was definitely elementary school. No.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
No.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
But I knew her parents, my grandparents. That's the real
family that I had, Like I knew, and which is
really really wild about that is we lived about three
miles away. So every now and then, my foster mom
would drive down, you know, McKinley the Street or Cedar,
and I would be like my grandma mic and I'd
always look over there. And then and then I remember,

(44:07):
you know, I hadn't really messed up foster mom, and
she used to get pissed that I would even bring
them up or talk about that or so then she
would have totally avoid that part of town, like, so
I wouldn't be looking over there, you know, I know, dude,
it sucked.

Speaker 5 (44:18):
Man.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
It's uh yeah, it's.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
Like I get it from her perspective, but at the
same time, it's like that's not cool.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Yeah, it's like, you know, and I remember when she
you know, I saw her twice, my real mom twice
when I was twenty three at Thanksgiving she came back,
and then I saw her when I and I saw
at my grandmother's funeral like six months later. So imagine
you see someone when you're a child, and then you

(44:45):
don't see him, and then you see him twice when
you know, within a six month period, and then I
never saw her again. And when she passed away, that's
when I was like, wow, I've I've only got one
living parent. I better look him up. Yeah, and I
you know, I knew I could find him, at least
I thought I could, because he's sort of a well

(45:07):
known figure in Fresno. And he had a personalized license plate.
And back then, this is this is this is before. Yeah,
this is before. Yeah, he was the organist in Pizza
and Pipes. It all comes back together.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
Yeah, wait, can I ask what was his personalized license Yeah?

Speaker 2 (45:24):
His name Elvin ray.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
That was his license plate.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Was his name, yeah, Elvin RAYO. Yeah, and uh, that'd
be funny if the pipes are more like a Harley
Davidson like right, yeah, y'all eat your pizza. Yeah yeah,
So yeah, I looked him up in the phone book man,
and uh he was in there.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
And I called the number and it was a landline.
This is an early two thousands before like you know,
the internet really blew up and cell phones and stuff
like that, no social media back then. And his buddy
answered the phone, and his buddy actually knew who my
mom was.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Like, what was his buddy's name?

Speaker 2 (46:13):
It might have been blind Bob, but I'm not sure
they had these kind of names like that. Oh yeah,
Pete the Greek Blind Bob stuff like that, and uh,
I think at that time he was yeah, in his
sixties and.

Speaker 4 (46:31):
Pete the Greek Blind Bob and Elvan Ray they were
part of Elvin Ray's crew.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Yeah, I think they called him E Ray and they
had these kind of nicknames and stuff, but uh, Elvan Ray.
But yeah, they are Evan but uh, you know it's funny,
like I think some German company did a documentary and
stuff on him, and I gotta looked at That's another
thing you talk about things you gotta look up. I
gotta look that up. But yeah, they Life magazine has

(46:58):
some photos of him. There was a guy unrelated. There
was a photographer name something Ray. I forget his first name,
and if you look that up you'll see like there
was a biker run and there's some great photos of
them like at the you.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
Know, yeah, Ray was a very popular name for that generation.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Yeah, but the yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
As like a second name.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
There were a lot of Billy Ray's and there's Sugar Ray, Leonard,
Sugar Ray Robinson.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Oh yeah, it was a very popular middle name.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Ray Ray. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I looked him up
on the phone BOK and I remember my my mother
in law, God restler soul, very encouraging. She said something
so sweet to me because I was very nervous. Man,
I was nervous to call. I mean, imagine you're calling
your dad right like yeah, And she said, you know what,
you're a wonderful person and if he doesn't want to
have anything to do with you, it's his loss. In

(47:52):
so many words, she said something longer, longer than that,
but that was basically the gist of it. So I remember,
you know, I went off by myself. The back I drew.
My heart was pounding, and I'm like, okay, I'm gonna
make this phone call. And I called and his buddy answered.
He goes, oh, he'll be he'd love to hear from you.
He'll be back in about an hour. I was like, oh, man,
So you know, he came back and I called, or

(48:14):
he called me. I forget how it went down. I
maybe I called, and uh, you know, we talked. We
spoke for about ninety minutes, and I told him I
was in town to do a comedy show and the
plan was we were to have excuse me, have lunch.
But he was so excited to meet me. He didn't
want to wait till lunch. He ended up showing coming

(48:36):
into the comedy show.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Oh that's cool.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
It was cool in hindsight. And the moment I was
on stage and I'm looking and I'm out there looking
at the crowd. Most of the crowd was in their
twenties and thirties and forties, and then there was these
two biker looking dudes that looked like members of Zazy Top.
And I think I made a joke like that, and
I'm like hey, and then and then as I'm making
a joke, I realized, Holy come, Yeah, that's who I

(49:01):
think it is. That's like me in a mirror, except
if I was you know, older and had a beard. Yeah.
It was a trip dude and bigger. He was six
or four. He was tall, yeah, yeah, tall, and all
his kids are He had like other children too, like
i've you know, through the years I met some of
his other sons are even bigger than him or you know,

(49:22):
weight wise, height wise. It was really wild, you know,
and they but friendly, like that friendly vibe, you know. Anyways,
he had like an old car, like a nineteen forty
six Chevy star Line. I think it was, but it
could be wrong about that. But anyways, they that was

(49:45):
that was a great day, and it was it was
great to meet him and great to you know, it's
kind of funny what do you call someone? Because I
didn't really know what to call him, and uh, I
think after a few phone calls, he's like, uh, He's like, yeah,
just he goes call me pop, and so so always
called him Pops, which is you know what I mean,
because I felt kind of weird. I'm like, I don't

(50:06):
know about dad, I don't know about fun. Like we're
just kind of getting to know each other again. And
he was always always sort of apologetic and uh, son,
there's nothing we can do to change the past, but
let's just move forward, onward and upward. And you know,
I think about you every day. He would always say
nice things like that. It was just really oh that's yeah.

(50:29):
It was cool. And at the time that.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
You guys did all that before he passed, you know, yeah,
because imagine not knowing that part. I know how terrible
that would be, you know, if you'd missed out completely.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
You know, yeah, there was a there's a lot of
kids that have that that I think about that. I
think about the all the time when I hear about
other kids. I grew up in a foster home. I
was really lucky to know my mother's side of the family,
and then eventually I got to meet my dad. But
I knew my mother's side of the family like a lot,
like my grandparents, my aunts, my uncles know. And when
I turned eighteen or nineteen, I moved out boom, move

(51:06):
right back in with my grandparents, almost like, well, that
was weird. Hey, how you guys been it's been Hey,
I'll tell you it's been a tough sixteen years. I'm
back though, you know.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Yeah. My grandfather and I we had a really great relationship.
I you know, I used to go up to Fresno
and especially on Sundays, we'd go play pool.

Speaker 5 (51:23):
You know.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
I'd take him this local billiard place, I grab a coffee,
we'd shoot some pool. Like that's what we had in
common together. It was really fun to like, you know,
have some sort of activity. And that's what I do
with my own son, you know, we you know, a
friend of mine told me great advice. He said, if
do activities with your children, and you'll and as they
get older, they'll want to do those activities with you.

(51:44):
Whether it's yeah, you know, like I've never been a
football guy. I'm never like let's go watch the you know,
the Readers or the Rams or the Broncos. I'm like,
this is my thing I watched on TV. Like you know,
I'll watch a couple plays, but I'm not I'm not
like a football guy.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
The truth is it doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
It's it take them to share with them whatever you like,
and even if they're not crazy about it, they'll be
happy spending time with you.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Yeah, it does make it better when you put like
my son, like we always go, you know, hiking or
we go for walks, so we go do push ups,
pull up, swimming, bike rides, like very active, like I
love stuff like like that. Yeah, and he likes it too.
He doesn't resist. I'm like, like this morning he told
me because I told him, you know, I you know,

(52:34):
usually at night he'll do his push ups, right, we'll
go down, we'll go we'll go swimming or whatever. And
I'm like, hey, you do your push ups today and
he's like no, yeah, I go. Can you give me
twenty five? And he's like you got it, sir. He
falls into let me sir, Like I'm but it's fun though.
He likes it right, And then then I'll have him
walk around the pool. I'm like, okay, give me ten.
They'll do ten. Then at one point he'll be like

(52:56):
at you know, seventy, and I go, you know, you're
getting real close to one hundred. I go, it's the uh.
So then we'll swim for a while. Then he'll hop out.
Next thing you know, he's done one hundred. So this
morning before he went to school, he uh, it was
called barbecue. They have these great themes at their school,
Like yesterday was either dressed like a toddler or an
old man. So he wore like a Hawaiian shirt and

(53:19):
he had like this wig, this this gray haired wig,
but it kind of looked like a surfer because the
white hair kind of blonde. And uh, the Hawaiian shirt,
I go, dude, it look like you work at Trader Joe's.
But this morning before he went out he showed me
his Today. The theme was barbecue Dad, and it was
like plaid shirt and he had like a bucket hat
like Gilligan might wear. He actually looked like little you know,

(53:43):
like little Daddy, Like it looks like me, dude. That's
how I dress, you know. Yeah, but before he went,
I said, all right, I have a great day son,
and he's, oh, by the way, Dad, I've already done
twenty five push ups. I'm like, ah, man, that made
me proud.

Speaker 4 (53:56):
I was like, yeah, that's really cool.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
I know, it's cool man, it's cool.

Speaker 4 (54:03):
Now do you guys just to bring it back around,
do you guys celebrate Halloween?

Speaker 2 (54:08):
We do. We do celebrate Halloween. We like to. You know,
one year we went to thanks for bringing back around
by the way. I'm sorry, I got sidetracked. Yeah, they yeah,
we go to one year we got so. We used
to go to Tuluka Lake. We went there a few years.
And that's a good to look if you ever go to.
If anyone's listening, you go to like Tuluka Lake. It's

(54:31):
a lot of people in the industry live in that
neighbor those neighborhoods. It's a really rich area. Bob Hope,
you know, had a home there for years, right off
of Ledge. You can look it up. And one year,
when my son was about three, I think there was
this long driveway and there was a security guard that
worked for the family at the end, at the very
front of the driveway, and they would give you gifts

(54:52):
from the Bob Hope family. And they we had like
some playing cards that said from Bob the Bob Hope Family.
Oh nice. Yeah. And so like people that are in
like special effects, like they go full man, they go
all out here in southern California, like you know, like
full on, like basically like a haunted house that's set
up in front of their own house. You know.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
Now, your son obviously does kind of costumes sort of stuff.
Did you guys ever do like themed costumes?

Speaker 2 (55:20):
No, not all together. Usually usually I don't really dress up,
but he'll dress up like a different rock stars or different.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
What was one of your favorites for him?

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Yeah, I would like that.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
You were like, oh, that one's.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
When he dressed like Rick Astley from the video like
with the white pants, and I think that one, yeah,
And then he had like the fake microphone he carried
around and plus if we're gonna give you up, if
we're gonna you know. Plus it's kind of has a
special meaning for us because that was one of his
videos he put on YouTube that got like over two
million views where he's playing you know that Rick Roll
song and I know I was like, wow, you know,

(55:58):
that was so cool. And uh. I remember as a kid,
I dressed up once and when I was about eight,
I dressed up like the mummy. My mom had made
a you know, she she shredded a bed sheet and
so like I'm getting wrapped up with like this bed
sheet of you know, to look like a mummy. But
it was interesting the she did not wrap the zipper

(56:21):
area in case I had to like pull my flight
down use the restroom, and she didn't. Of course obviously
that where you could look out, so uh and I
remember so just these buddy Holly on her. Yeah, all
you'd see was these buddy Holly glasses, these black frame glasses,
and then like this this zipper area like probably like

(56:43):
the world's smallest pervert or something.

Speaker 4 (56:48):
I don't know what he's dressed as, but it's scary
as out.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Yeah, what's he getting rid of the whip out? I
see you, but you can't see me.

Speaker 4 (56:58):
That pervert was in the burn unit or something. Yeah,
I don't know what happened to him.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Do you have a favorite costume that you wear these days?

Speaker 4 (57:07):
Oh? Not these days. This has already happened, so I
can kind of let the cat out of the bag
of bite.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
I'm planning on dressing.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
I'm doing a set not on Halloween, but on the
Saturday of Halloween weekend. Cool, and I think it would
be fun because that's I'm pretty sure that's going to
be Devil's Night. To just dress kind of low key
as the Devil and do my set like that.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Oh wow, that's what they used to call those parties
at Harvey Weinstein's house. Is it really No, I'm just kidding.
That was a joke I wrote for Frasier. Hey, oh.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
Yeah, not the connotation I want to go with. But no,
that's what they used to call it in Detroit the
night before Halloween. They would set all these big bonfires
and stuff, and it was kind of a tradition that
just got out of hand. Now it's like a whole big,

(58:11):
crazy thing, you know. And so I figure that's right
around Halloween, so that'd be a fun thing to do.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
What are you going to do to dress up like
the Devil?

Speaker 4 (58:19):
I don't know exactly. I'll figure it out at the
costume shop, you know. You know, it depends on how
far I want to go with it, you know, Like,
I don't know if I want to do the whole
red jumpsuit and you know, or I'm definitely not gonna

(58:40):
paint my face red. I think that's just too silly.
Red makeup never works out from what I've seen on
Halloween for anybody.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
You know, what about like the pitchfork and a little pitchfork.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
Yeah, I'm thinking of something like that, or you know,
the tail with the yeah yeah, something kind of subtle.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
I wonder if there's like some sort of candy or
sweets that you could pass out, like devils eggs and
deviled eggs or something.

Speaker 4 (59:11):
I'm not passing out deviled eggs at the comedy store.
I'd like to go there again sometimes. Yeah, I'll figure
this out on my own, terrible.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Face red and panned out devil eggs.

Speaker 4 (59:30):
And explain that I'm the devil. I just everyone's like,
did you hear what? Yeah, stroke and started passing out
devil's eggs.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
But the comedy yeah, and then yeah, and plus it
would kind of smell weird too, you know that, the
whole deviled egg.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
I think exactly that bing just finally got over smelling bad,
and the last thing they need is someone passing out
deviled eggs to the crowd.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Oh I know, dude. I was at a comedy clubs
and they added the new menu item. It was broccoli
and Brussels sprouts, and and I could not figure out
what that smell was. Yeah, I went. I walked into
the green room. There was about eight guys in there
like that were on the lineup, and it stunk. And
then I was like I walked away. And then a

(01:00:18):
few minutes later I saw the waiter come in with
the waiter was like, hey, how did you like those appetizers?
And I looked down and I realized that's what it was,
the Brussels and the broccoli. I was like, man, it
smells terrible.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
In here, Like yeah, this place smells like a foot
locker is exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Yeah. I was like wow. So, yeah, you don't want
to be that guy that's like passing around garlic, you know,
or too crazy smelly, Like.

Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
No, I would if I did anything, it would be
like just regular Halloween fandy nut. So I get why
you would say devil days, But what a terrible idea?

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Said it? Yeah, that is a terrible idea. I am
hungry though right now, and you know what, that's probably
what is.

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
I want eggs and I was like, deviled eggs.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Yeah, yeah, see when I was at that, when I
was in Provo, remember to It's kind of like a
time machine. The guy next I ordered like just scrambled
eggs and bacon, And then there was a guy at
the counter next to me. He ordered deviled eggs. I
didn't even know that was a thing you could order.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Yeah, you can order that anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
I didn't really really.

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
Any place that service breakfast knows how to make them.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
They may not want to and they may go, oh,
we don't have that or whatever, but.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Yeah, that was something I used to I used to
see those like a potlucks or something or some kind
of like church function.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
You're really not missing out.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
They're not that great exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
You can put pepper on a regular egg.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
I know. Well, Mike, I want to thank you for
it once again when the Pocket Party podcast and h
hopefully this will get uploaded and you guys can hear it,
and I thank you for your reviews and your comments and.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
Uh if it got loaded up in time.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Happy Halloween, everybody, Happy Halloween.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
What's your favorite Halloween song? Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Probably the Monster Me too. I think it might be
the only.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Hellow I was working in the lab late one night.
The Monster mash.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
Yeah, that was for uh, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
There's a lot of stuff on The Nightmare before Christmas.
It's pretty good too.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Yeah, it used to be thriller and then still I
still like thriller, but I like that Monster Mashes has
that funny fun That.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
One's just around.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
It's an eternal sort of song.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Yeah, all right, Mike, I'll catch you later. Barty, thank
you so much for helping us start that party in
your ear holes. You got it, buddy, later And that
was Mike Black. How fun was that? We covered so much?
Tahoe Joe, balloon castles, Glowing the Dark, pizza and pipes,
Chucky cheese, new restaurant lines, Foster homes, the whole thing.

(01:03:05):
We went there, We did it, Doubled Diggs. All right, guys,
have a great day and I'll catch you soon. Start
that party in your ear holes, and don't hurt nobody.
Don't hurt nobody, be careful. Everybody listen to Darren Carter.
We all knew he's the party starter. So if you

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