April 8, 2025 • 42 mins
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Comedians Darren Carter and Daniel Lobell deliver a hilarious episode recorded in a Jeep parked behind the Hollywood Laugh Factory!
Daniel spills the beans on working with and befriending comedy giant Jackie Mason, nailing a spot-on impression that’ll crack you up. He also recounts wild times with the iconic George Carlin.
Raw, funny, and full of insider gems—this one’s a comedy lover’s dream!
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/darren-carter-pocket-party--3090090/support.
https://buymeacoffee.com/darrencarter
Comedians Darren Carter and Daniel Lobell deliver a hilarious episode recorded in a Jeep parked behind the Hollywood Laugh Factory!
Daniel spills the beans on working with and befriending comedy giant Jackie Mason, nailing a spot-on impression that’ll crack you up. He also recounts wild times with the iconic George Carlin.
Raw, funny, and full of insider gems—this one’s a comedy lover’s dream!
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/darren-carter-pocket-party--3090090/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Pocket Party, and we're back. Everybody at your host Darren Carter,
the Party Starter, and we are doing a special episode
of the Pocket Party podcast. We're in a jeep behind
the laugh Factory. By the way, if you love the show,
or even if you just tolerate it, go to buy
me a coffee and buy me a coffee you could
show your support. I got the link in the description.
(00:23):
It's called buy me a Coffee dot com slash Darren Carter.
Who am I in the jeep with mister Daniel Lobell.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Actually in the jeep with Jackie Mason, and I got
the news for you. The fact that a guy like you,
who's a party starter and an international sensation who's got
millions of fans, is trying to get people to buy
you coffees is absolutely nauseating. And I'll tell you something.
If a guy like you can't buy your own coffee,
we're all doomed. And if anybody out there buys this
man of coffee, you ought to get knocked in the face.
(00:53):
And if you see me on the street, you better
get across the street to the other way, and you
don't come dibby, because I'll tell you something. I'll not
you right up?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Okay, wow, Jackie, you're very violent. I'll trying to do
They're just trying to support the podcast, my friend.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I got no problem with it. You ever seen these
van trailer quests like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what do
they do? They got like, oh no, I think you're
very nice? And then like the Dommy era, you're a whore.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
You know, I would totally buy you a coffee. But
Jackie Jackue, Wait, so Danny would you buy me it?
Would you only buy me a coffee? You yourself would
support the Pucket Party podcast?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
And oh yeah, one hundred percent I would do it.
But Jackie Mason, he would if he was around, he
would have he would have knocked anyone in the face.
Who does that?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Wait there he is right there, Jackie. What do you
think of supporting people's podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
By I'll tell you something that's absolutely disgusting to me
that a person who tries to make a living by
making people left should try and get a guy like you,
who's an innocent pyson who barely makes any money to
begin with, and you got to live in your parents
basement and who knows what you gotta do just to
script together twenty dollars just to get through the month,
and this guy who's a Hollywood star is trying to
(01:55):
get your coffee money. Ha ha. But I think it's
great there and person.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
You yourself, no, but you know, I also you know,
and I tell the people I go listen if you
if you don't want to go to you know, click
the link and throw us a couple you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
You should be allowed to ask for coffee, would you feel?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
But I also told me, you know what, in other ways,
that you would just tell a couple of people about
the podcast or leave comments because it helps the algorithm,
especially if they go to YouTube.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But now you yourself, you like that people would leave
a comment, right me? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
What would Jackie think of me telling the audience please
go to YouTube and leave me comments?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Well, do you think these people got nothing better to do?
You think they're just sitting around waiting to write comments
for you? If they got something to say, You don't
think they would say it. If you think that they would,
they're holding back all these comments from them.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
No, Jackie, I'm not saying them, but you're right, I
am begging for comments.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
To this algorithm and beholding to the algorithm. Now you've
got to force people who aren't writers to begin with
to start coming up with things that they never wanted
to say because they feel that this guy who's got
nothing going on. Apparently they try and force people to
take their time away from their family. The kids are
screaming and the mother can do anything. The father says, yeah,
I gotta come up with another comment for Darren Carter
(03:08):
because she needs to start another body. And oh and
also you're gonna hate this one, Jackie.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Can you turn the line on real quick because I
don't let my reading glasses on and I want to
see if this thing is recording. This is gold Are
we recording? Of course it's Do you see the numbers
moving and whatnot? They look like I can't see nothing, man,
I should have brought my glasses, but.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I'm like a Ventril was no doubt.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I also have a great very I'm very grateful for you.
Know how you have different like listeners and fans. And
there's one that goes beyond that, a special. Her name
is Galaxy Goddess aka Casey. She also now would you
like this? Danny goes to listen to the podcast, will
go on YouTube and make time stamps for different topics
that are happening, and it's great, right, yeah, And I
(03:49):
tell her, I said, don't feel behold, don't feel you know,
I don't want you to be stressed out over if
you just want to if you don't, if you don't
want to do it, that's cool. If you just want to,
like do one time stamp, two four, whatever. But she'll
go through and find different things. She actually enjoys it. Now,
what would Jackie Mason think of that?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
It's nice that you got a yent out there. We's
got nothing better to do than to leave time stamps.
You know, she's in Beaumont, Texas. It's unfortunate, you though.
When I was alive, I had women do a lot
better things than that. But if that's what you want
to have these brods do, then that's comics today. It's
(04:24):
a totally different times, Jacks. When I was going around,
we had ideas of what we wanted. Our fans were
brouds that they would do. It happened to be a
little different than what you're doing. But sure, if that's
what floats your mouth to get the comments and time stamps.
I liked other things, Oh my gosh, she's so much
funnier than me. It's not even is hilarious.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Dude, you should be reincarnated.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I'll tell you the truth. If I've had abroad and
she was willing to do something for me, time stamps
would be the last thing on my mond, and she's like, Alex,
he got this. Okay, here's what I want to know.
You're absolutely stunning. She's beautiful. You know what I got
her doing going on the internet and time stamping. You're
(05:14):
the best man.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I got a question, Danny, So listen. You're from New
York City. Uh, there's five boroughs. I'm from the West Coast,
so I'm learning there's five Burroughs. Tell the audience the
five boroughs. Can I try it? Or do you just
want to tell me, you know, like the back of
your hand. I'm gonna guess I'm probably gonna be wrong,
but I'm gonna say I'm gonna there's a I think
there's a boroughs.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
There's John Burrows. Nobody knows.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I knew John Burrows because I went to John Burrow's school.
But okay, let me think there's Manhattan, Queen's Long Island,
Brooklyn Island, and Staten Island.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Okay, you got Manhattan, you got Queen Bonkers. No, No,
the Bronx. Sorry, okay, okay, so it's Madland's not one
of them, but you got the all five. Okay, Manhattan,
and I've lived in I was originally from Queens, so
I lived in Queens and then we moved to Long Island,
not a borough, but I did live there. Then when
I went to college, I moved to Manhattan. Then when
(06:11):
I graduated college and I moved to Brooklyn. So I
never lived in Staten Island or the Bronx, but I've
covered a lot of them. You know, if we were to.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Do broad strokes of these different boroughs. Manhattan is where
the money's at, right, That's where like, if you get
money and you could live anywhere, as you probably live
in Manhattan.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, I guess the big money's in Manhattan. But there's
a lot of money in Brooklyn too. You know, Brooklyn
has become very fancy, a lot of it. When I
was there, it was just getting gentrified, you know. But
I got gentrified out of it, you know, I like
to you know, the early white settlers get pushed out
by the richer white settlers. Not that I'm white but
you know, and then what is Yonkers? Nakers is in
(06:55):
the Bronx, in the Bronx, And what about Staten Island.
That's that's who lives a lot of I was gonna
say something racist, of course, I mean there're more make racist.
I mean it's an Italian racism. I don't know if
I think you're allowed to be racist against Italians. I
(07:16):
was gonna say a bunch of gozanos, you know, No,
I was yeah, like you know, yeah, it's a lot
of firefighters and yeah, and uh and guys who are
like this sandwhich is nice? I want it nice? Make
it nice? Yeah? What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Do?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Make it nice? You know what I want with the
provolone and the salami and ad this and that in
the mazadel make it nice? What about and what is? Uh?
What do? What do? What do we leave out? We
left out a Bronx. The Bronx. That's where Jennifer Lopez
is from.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Somebody told me when I was in Manhattan, because I
spent some time in Manhattan in ninety a lot of
time in ninety three and ninety four, I think they
said the Bronx, if you drive by, you'll see cars
broken down on the freeway. They're like on fire or
all their tires are off. They made it sound like
the Bronx was like a scary place.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Well, there's different parts of the Bronx, you know, like
Yankers is a nicer part. But yeah, I think there's
good and bad parts of the Bronx. I don't know
how bad the bad parts are because I've never explored that,
but yeah, it could be. I don't know. I mean
that was also like, you know, I feel like, you know,
coming to America with Eddie Murphy with the trash cans
(08:31):
on fire. That's like a New York of the past,
of Yesteryear, Yester Year.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I got a question. Okay, so I love your Jackie
Mason impression. How did you get to know Jackie Mason?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Because you actually knew him and you hung out with them,
you guys became friends. So I interviewed him. I had
a magazine called The Comical. It was a comedy magazine.
I interviewed him for the cover and I back then
it was well before podcasting and the equipment for doing
remote interviews. I got a mini disc player just to
show you how old I am and if people even
(09:02):
know what that is, but MANI discs were like almost
like many floppy discs almost, but they weren't floppy. They
were hard. They're like hard, they're like CDs but smaller,
but in like a square with a CD in it
and you put it into this machine, it would always
break anyway. So I interviewed him and I was asking
(09:24):
him questions like how did you get started? And who
were your influences? You know, the things a young comic
might ask. And then I went back to the college
to transcribe the interview. In fairness, I wasn't the one
transcribing it, but I was there. I can't type, but
I was there with my friend Sal who was the
transcriber designated, and we're playing the mini disc and it's
(09:46):
skipping all over the place. The interview didn't. It was like,
I'd be like, who are your influences? That's why I
took And Jackie had said, if you have any follow
up questions, call me, you know, So I was like,
what are we gonna do? Do you remember what he said?
I'm like no, I was just so enthralled with that.
I was sitting with him, and I didn't I didn't
like soak in what he was saying at the time,
(10:08):
I was going to listen back, so I said, you
know what, he said, I could call him if I
had a follow up question. So I called him and
he said hello. He said, Jackie Mason, that's right to me.
I said, uh, HiT's Danny Lobell from the comedy magazine.
Uh huh you remember you said I could ask you
if I had any follow up questions? Sure, sure, I said,
so when I asked you, you know, who were your influences? Yeah,
(10:33):
I just wanted to follow up on that. What do
you mean you wanted to follow up on it? I said,
Lenny Bruce. I said, you know whoever? He said, I
don't remember who else? He said jack Benny. I said,
these people were Refluchs. What's the follow up? I said, no, nothing,
You're right, You're right. It's uh but thank you. I
just wanted to clarify that. Okay, hang upew So we
(10:53):
typed that out and then the next question of the interview,
so like, when did you get started started with? And
that's why what it's all and I look at each other. Yeah,
I was like, I'll call him. I said, hey, Jackie,
(11:15):
Uh yeah, remember me, I just talked to you a
few minutes ago. Of course I remember you. What's the question?
I just had another follow up question. Okay, what is it?
Remember when I was asking you how you got started? Yeah,
so that's why I follow up on that. He goes,
what are you talking about? I said, you know, just
(11:36):
like a little more details on how he got started? Goes,
we do you mean details? What did I not tell you?
I said, well, just tell me the whole thing again.
He goes, you lost the interview, didn't you. Oh? I said, well,
it's a technical issue. It's not like I lost it,
but it's not really playing right. He goes, all right,
I'll tell you something. You could come down to the
Wellington Diner. I'll be there tonight with some friends and
bring a recorder and we'll do it again. So I said, okay,
(11:59):
So I go down. Then that night we do their interview,
and we got on pretty good. And I thought, hey,
you know, I think me and Jackie Mason have like
a little bit of a friendship chemistry here, you know.
And I just had been I guess you would say
awarded or given a college radio show, maybe like that
morning or something. And I'm like, wouldn't it be cool,
(12:20):
I could invite him to do the radio show. So
before I left, I said, thank you so much for
doing the interview and for redoing it. He goes, okay,
my pleasure. I said, And by the way, I just
got a college radio show. If you're interested, I'd love
to have you on it. And he just flipped out
of it me. He goes, You're the most obnoxious person
I ever met in my life. First, you bothered me
(12:40):
for an interview for a magazine that nobody's gonna read.
And I'm a big star, and I take time out
of my date. They give you an interview because I
feel bad for you and I want to help you up.
And then you called me up and you're asking me
questions because you wouldn't admit that you lost the interview.
Then I give you a second interview, and now you
want a third interview. What the hell's wrong with you?
Disgusting with this and that you know you're gonna get
(13:03):
nowhere in this business. Obviously, you have no respect for
people's time, and you think you're by screams at me.
I don't even know. It's like wallah, oh no, So
he says, get the out of here. I don't want
to see you again. I don't want to know you.
So I left and I was so depressed. I'm walking
through Times Square and my head is down and I'm
(13:24):
like talking so negatively to myself. I'm like, you're an idiot.
You're an idiot. Look at you. You know, you know
you're so stupid. Of course you don't ask him for
another thing. And the next day, I'm so depressed and
then the phone rings and I answer, Hello, Hello, this
is Jackie Mason. Let me ask you. You know, I
think I was a little hard on you yesterday and
(13:44):
I just want to ask you. You know, I'm sorry,
and I want to ask you if you're interested. I'm
going out to an Italian restaurant tonight with a few friends,
and you know, I just want to, you know, if
you're read, if you want to come to you know.
If it's not, I understand, but if you want to
come down, and I'll make it up you and I'll
buy you a spaghetti. So I said, oh, okay, So
now I go, and I'm pretty nervous or whatever, and
(14:06):
I'm sitting there and somehow impressions come up and Jackie
does incredible impressions of Jack Benny and who else did
he do? Who did all the USO tours? Bob Hope,
Bob Hope, and my brain froze for a second. And
Milton Burle he did all the Old Time Guys and
(14:27):
the Grout Show. And he goes, this guy says, he's
a comedian, you got any impressions? So I did Adam Sandler,
which I would be afraid to do now because I'm
so out of practice on him. But at the time
it was like I had I had Sandler down, and
he and his friends were like stunned that I did
such a good Adam Sandler. Oh, like, I'm still doing
(14:50):
Jackie Mason pretty well. So just imagine I'm doing Adam
Sandler that well. I was doing it really well. If
I did it now, you'd be like, oh, he's a liar,
he never did it well. But I'm telling you I
did do it well. Yeah, And then he goes, who
else do you have? And I did Bib Natan Yaho,
you know, the Israeli Prime Minister, Bib not Yahu. I
want to say that Iran poses a big threat to
(15:13):
Israel to America, you know. Then I started going in
to the BB Natanyahu and he goes, this is unbelievable.
This guy's got bb uping Yahoo down. And he does
ad him Sandler better than Sandler, and this and that,
and I can't believe it. I thought this guy was
a complete bum and a schmuck and an idiot. But
it turns out that he actually has some talent. I
didn't know a guy like this was talented. He looked
like a complete moron to me. So so his friend said, Jackie, yeah,
(15:39):
he's he's good man. I think he's got it. So
he goes, all right, all right, if everybody says so,
then you're in and I'm in. He goes, you're in,
You're in. Come back again tomorrow. We're going to be
at the Wellington where you saw me yesterday. And that
was it. I just saw him every day every day
for years. And then and then he you know, my
(15:59):
magazine came out with the article and it was glossy
and he was on the cover and he loved it
and he was telling everybody, was showing everyone. And then
like you know, I could only afford like a cup
of coffee because I was always broke, and any money
I had went into the magazine. You know, we didn't
have funders or anything. It was it's a miracle that
I even had a magazine. So he said, you know,
(16:20):
I never met a guy who's so broke and has
a glossy magazine. How could it happen and a guy
could have a magazine. You're supposed to be a media mogul.
You're the most the least mogul. I haven't met of
any good buddy in the media. You don't even have
money for a sandwich. It's embarrassing, he goes. He goes,
how do you afford anything? I said, I don't work
here and there selling light bulbs or something. I said.
(16:42):
I said, anything I got I put into the magazine.
He goes, you need a better job. He goes, you know,
why don't you come in some merchandise for me at
my Broadway show. We're about to open up at the
Hell and H Theater and you could. I'll give you
a few nights of the week. My friend Morty, who
I've known since I was young, he does some nights.
I can't take everything from him, you know, if you're
trying to steal all this work, I'm like, I'm not
trying to steal anybody okay, so I could tell that
(17:06):
you already don't like the fact that Morty is involved.
I said, no, no, I don't pretend you're jealous. You
want it all the nights, You're only getting some of
the nights. They always would bust your balls like that.
So I said, okay, all right, I'd like to do it,
all right, fine, So yeah, I don't remember. He gave
me a percentage of the sales, and I became a
hustler for Jackie Mason cassettes and CDs. At the Broadway show,
(17:27):
everybody's walking around in the intermission looking for a cocktail,
and I'm saying, hey, I only have a few more
of these CDs, Like I'm like a like an African
guy on the street in the in the fashion district
to do listen, come here, you lack a Jackie Messan
right you at the show? Right, I was pushing this stuff, like, okay,
(17:48):
this is our spitchal deal for you. Only two more left.
Then he had cassettes and like people don't even buy
I'm I'm not African. I'm like, people don't even buy
cassettes anymore. These are collectible. Where else are you gonna
get up? Jackie Mason cassette. This is your only chance.
People go all right him. Know what this guy's deal is.
Nobody pushes merch a Broadway that hard. You know, have
(18:10):
you ever heard even any concert where they pushed the
merch on you? Not like that. So I was selling
tons of stuff, and I was making hundreds of dollars
because he cut me in on the sales. That's nice.
And at the end of every week, you'd have us
in the back room at the Helen Hayes Theater, me
and Morty, who was like, I don't know, seventy, and
he was like a skinny, frail guy in a Mets
cap with white hair, looked kind of like Woody Allen,
(18:31):
and he would he would just berate this guy in
front of me. But look at the sales. The kid
is absolutely slaughtering you. You see what he's done. He's
made three thousand dollars on cassette tapes. You brought in
forty dollars. And you're supposed to be my friend for
many years. Look at you, disgrace. You can't even do
anything right. You were up on your own life. I
try to help you out and you'd screw me, and
you took them, and it was really hard to sit
(18:53):
there and watch that and thin. I'd be like, I'm sorry, Jackie,
I'm just I'm try harder, you try harder. Look at
this guy. I don't badly know him. I give him
a job. He's making unbelievable hand over fist sales. And
I'm and with you. I give you one night and
what do I do. You're gonna make me broke. I'm
gonna have to give up my place, you.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Know, so that you know these characters are awesome.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah, so I'm sorry I didn't. Yeah, so try harder.
You're sorry. Look at this kid, he's got nothing. He's fat,
you know, he's a fat kid who runs the magazine.
He's got spaghetti. Yeah, he goes, he goes, he goes.
You think this a guy like this, how do you feel?
A guy like this is absolutely pulverizing you. A fat
(19:36):
kid who has no money. So it was like it's
something to me and him, you know, it's just something everybody.
So anyway, he'd be like, uh, you know, so was
my night off? One night and I'm walking around Times
Square I lived around there, and my phone rings and
it's Jackie goes, are you're gonna be done at the
show tonight. I said, no, it's my night off, I goes.
(19:58):
He goes, I know it's wing tonight. I said yeah.
So he says, all right, let me ask you a question.
You like Georgie Carlin. I said, Georgie Carlin, you mean
George Carlin? Yeah, I said, I love George Carlin. I
didn't ask you if you love George Carlin. I said,
do you like George can Now it's nauseating. You're sound
like a teenager fan, like a girl. I didn't.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Now.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I regret even asking the question. I did say, do
you love George Carlin? Look at you? Then I say, oh,
you love George Carlin. You talk about me like that.
You're talking only at George Carlin. Oh, it's George Carlin.
I was like, all right, all right, just why why
are you asking me? He goes, all right, I'll tell you.
Georgie Carlin happens to be a big fan of mine,
and he's a friend of mine, and he's coming down
to see my show tonight, and I thought it might
(20:42):
be a kick for you to meet him. So if
you're not too busy and you want to come down
after the show, I'll introduce you, and that's what happened.
And then he gave me the greatest introduction ever to Carlin.
He said, this guy's fantastic. He does impressions, he's funny,
he's an up and coming guy. He does he's got
a magazine. I was on the cover of his magazine.
(21:04):
You should be on the cover of the magazine. He's like,
all right, I'll be on the magazine. So he goes,
he goes, So George goes take my number. You know,
I was like, all right, heymn and then he holds
up the finger. He goes like, like, you know, his
index meer. He goes share it with no one, you know, right, So,
were you like flying high that night that you got
his phone number? You just like was your are You're like,
(21:25):
oh my gosh, I can't believe I met George Carlin.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I have his phone number, Like did you did you
like call your parents or like was it one of
those nights?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Actually it's funny. My dad was in the neighborhood and
I told him I'm with Jackie Mason and George Carlin.
Where are you. He's like, I'm I'm in a Times
Square area from He just finished a job as a photographer.
I said, you want to come down and meet them.
I'm with them in the back room at the and
I asked. Jackie said, Okay, my dad's in the area.
He says, don't want to come down. So my dad
(21:55):
comes down and he just come from a he's a photographer.
He has had his camera on him. He took some
pictures of the three of us also, so I have
these nice pictures that are like, oh, of me with
me in the middle and Jackie on one side with
his arm around me, and George on the other side
with his arm around me. It's a very cool picture.
I'll show you sometime and then you know, I wind
(22:16):
long story short, wound up interviewing George for the magazine cover.
Interviewed him another two times over the phone from my
college radio show, which was podcasted at this point. We
were the first comedy podcast. And then George said, I'll
come into the college and do it in person, and
he did, and then we would talk on the phone.
He was very serious. He wasn't like, you know, when
(22:36):
I do this Jackie stuff. Jackie was always funny when
he was talking. George was funny on stage. He was
rarely his character from stage in my experience off stage,
except for one time. One time he was the George
Carlin from on stage. Normally it would just be like, hey,
(22:57):
how's it going, you know, all right? Yeah, but one
time he used to call me. For a brief period
of time, I don't know how many months, he took
a real interest in my career. Then it fizzled out.
We never you know, we never lost contact until he died.
But like there was a little period of time when
he was like really into, like knowing what I was doing.
And so he calls me up and I'd just gotten
(23:21):
back from bombing at this little place called the Village
Lantern in the village, and he said, did you go
up tonight? And I said yeah. He goes, and how
did it go? And I said, well, be honest with you,
my bomb terribly. He goes, Where were you? He said, well,
a little place called the Village Lantern, actually only a
(23:42):
few doors down from where you used to play at
the Bitter End. Yeah, what happened? I said, I don't know.
I did the same jokes that usually worked, but they
just didn't like him. Yeah, I'll tell you, man, I
used to fucking bomb all the time down there. He said, really,
he goes, yeah, and those are some long subway rides
(24:05):
back up to Harlem. I used to have to go
back up to Harlem. You didn't have to go there,
I said, well, I go to Brooklyn. He goes. Fucking sucks,
doesn't it. You have to sit there waiting for the
train thinking about shameful. It feels that your bomb. I go, yeah,
it's terrible. He goes, but I'll tell you something and
I want you to know this, And I wish I
knew it when I was younger. They're fucking wrong. I
(24:26):
was like, what. He goes, the audience, they're fucking wrong.
I said, oh really, he goes, No, get it into
your head. You're funny. You know you're funny. They aren't funny.
They're fucking wrong. If someone funny goes up and they're
funny and people who don't know funny are sitting there
and they're not laughing, then who's right and who's wrong?
(24:50):
You're right and they're fucking wrong. He's like, oh oh,
So I was like, wow, thank you.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
You know.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
He's like so that was like, you know, that was
almost like him on stage. You know, yeah, you know, Yeah,
I could see that the world. Yeah, I haven't even noticed
the audiences are wrong.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, I got a question, remember that tell the audience
about how you were telling me what it was like
walking with George, like on campus, how people would recognize
him and he would stop and give him a moment.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Right, Yeah, So I went down. The funniest thing is
to go to pick him up. And this is kind
of recent, you know, nine to eleven had been recent,
so like Manhattan colleges in Manhattan, and it's like pretty
locked down, and it was very hard for me to
get people. It was always a struggle. I had to
go through all these hoops to get anybody on my show,
(25:47):
and I had to go and get names cleared several
days in advance, and I had to follow up with
the office and make sure their name was on the
security list, and then the list off and didn't get
to security. So for Carlin, I really made sure his
name is there so when he gets there, she gets
a few minutes early. I come down there. We had
this Jamaican security guard. She was so funny, but she
(26:08):
was such a ballbuster and she just like not on purpose,
she wasn't trying to be funny, but it was funny
what a ballbuster was? She was, I come down there,
there's George Carlin in the flesh at my college, at
the door, at the entrance where the turnstiles are where
they have to buzz you through. And this Jamaican security
lady goes, I don't know who know George Carlin is? Okay,
(26:29):
old man, if you know on the list, you know
on the list. And I'm like, oh, no, okay, old man.
You listen to me right now, old man. And I
look at him and he was loving it. Yeah, it
was like and then when I walked him up, he goes, man,
that brought me back. I know. Nobody talks to me
like that anymore. That's cool. Here She's like, I don't
(26:50):
know who fucking George Carlin is. I was like, oh good.
He took all but every few feet someone would stop
him and then recognize him, and they be always kind
of a similar thing.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Like, no way, man, George Carlin, you're George Carlin. Yeah, dude,
my dad saw you in Paramus, New Jersey in nineteen
seventy eight. He still talks about that concert. We'll tell
your dad thanks for coming, And I hope he's he
seems like a swell guy who have raised a kid like.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
You, And you know, he's making eye contact with them
and he's smiling, and he goes and then he'd offer
them a picture, you know, like when you meet someone famous,
you want a picture, Yeah, and you're afraid to ask.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Here we forget you're still nervous, and you're picture if
you want a picture, so he can show your dad.
Let's get a picture together. That's cool, okay, And we
walk another five feet. You know, hey, George Carlin, my
dad saw you in Paramus, New Jersey, you know, or
wherever a different plays or whatever, and a slightly different
story but all the same.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, that's amazing. Wow, your dad what does he do
for a living? He's a carpenter, cool man. That's awesome. Well,
tell me he raised a great kid. You want a
picture to get We walk another five feet. Hey, you're
George Carlin. And and that's how it was for him,
Like to get from from one place to the other
was like, you know what, I'm trying to rush to
(28:12):
get back up to the to get on the air.
But it must have took us like twenty five minutes
to walk two minutes because everybody knew George Carlin, and
everybody had some story that was vaguely about him, and
everybody wanted to tell it to him. And he showed
every single person the most unbelievable respect, didn't make them
(28:33):
feel rushed, looked them in the eyes, smiled widely, offered
them photographs. He understood what that moment meant to people
because it's the probably the only moment in their life
where they meet George Carlin, and he wanted that to
be a special moment for them. So, like, you know,
he didn't let anybody have a bad moment with George Carlin,
(28:53):
like this is your time that you meet George Carlin,
and wow, is he a nice guy? You know? And
he he was a terrific guy. Never knew such a
nice guy. And like he used to tell me, why
don't you call me more? I said, all right, I will,
but I wouldn't because I was nervous because I was
always like I'm gonna blow the friendship. You know.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah, you ever heard those stories like he would call
comics at our hotel room like if they were in
you know, just just you know, like if you guys
were like both at Lake Tahoe and he would, you know,
people answer their phone in their hotel room and George
carl would be on there and wish them luck, or
they talk about the show.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Have you heard that?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Those kind of stories.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
He left Lewis Black a voicemail. Lewis told me one
time he said that. He said, Lois, I saw your special.
It was very funny. I'm not gonna do anything to
help you. I just want you to know. Bo Bigelow,
very funny on comic is calling. Can I take it?
I think he's looking for me. Yeah, take a real quick, ye,
(29:50):
take it real quick. Yeah, all right, his phone call
is on there. Darren by the way, Yeah, let him
know he's being recorded. You're being recorded on the Darren
Carter podcast.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Oh my god. I don't even know what to say.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
I was not prepared for this at all.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
This is like that moment when you meet George Carlin.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, Bo, I'm joined a podcast with Danny.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
How are you tonight?
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I'm doing fantastic. You know, the show was it was interesting,
it was good. I'm I'm you know. The weather is
incredible right now. I don't even have to wear a jacket.
I can just feel the breeze. Hit my arm hairs
right now, and.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
It's my arm hairs. Bo I got a question.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
You you saw my show last night, fresh off the presses.
Anything you want to say about my show that you
saw last night?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Oh man, I can't get over how incredible to the
the voiceovers are for body movement.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I would say, oh my gosh, that was incredible. You
you blew me away with that. You get these movements
with your body and you're like making the quick of
the neck as you move, and the you do of
the most amazing sound effects. Like I have a sound
effects app and it's not as good as you. Oh,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Oh you mean like whenever I act like I'm cracking
my back or my I go like this, I.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Go yeah yeah, yeah yeah. And the beat boxing, but
like I'd never seen you do that. You're you're doing
that like demonic voice and you're go into slow motion
with it. What are you talking about like that thing? Yeah?
That was amazing. That was just incredible. Yeah, thank you. So,
by the way, Darren, we're gonna have to wrap the podcast.
(31:30):
My wife is coming to the jeep right now.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Okay, take you by the ball and ask you one
last final thing.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Right now. Thank you Bo, Thanks Bo, Thanks Bo.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah guy, last thing as we go, I want to
say thank you for doing the podcast, thank you for
coming on. We'll do it again. I love just the
real quick the story about you would tell Jackie remember
when you got that gig at that Newberry festival or whatever.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I love the Westberry means. I love what he would
do this with you. You could get in the back, kylee.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Oh, his wife gonna get in the back of the car.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Lot a podcast in the front, but the back is
audience seating. We're gonna, we're gonna wrap it up.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I just want to hear this final story.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I love this story as my beautiful wife, Kylie Oil LaBelle,
who you can follow on x She's an amazing writer.
So one time we're sitting at the aubum Pan. Aubum
Pan is like a chain of almost like a Starbucks
grade level chain in New York of French Ish themed
(32:31):
coffee shops, and Jackie was hysterically. He'd always be like,
I want you to meet me at the Oubbune Pen
at exactly two thirty and don't comet one, and don't
come it at two twenty and don't come at two forty,
because you know why you should come in to thirty
because at exactly to thirty they get rid of the
old pastries and they bring in new pastries. And you
could buy the same croissant that used to call your
(32:53):
cost you four dollars for fifty cents, and you have
to be an idiot to come five minutes early. It's
it's four dollars, and you just sit there for five
or four minutes. All of a sudden the price drops
the fifty cents. It's exactly the same croissant, and everybody
is and moron who comes in early. What I see
people I sit there and they buy it two minutes before,
and it's like unbelievable you're getting I'm getting the same
(33:15):
thing that that person just got for fifty cents, and
they spent four dollars on it. They got ripped off,
and that's why you got to beat me. Exactly at
two thirty they do the transfer of the pastries. So
it actually makes.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Sense no matter how much money you have. I mean
it just logically, he's making sense.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Well yeah, but you'd also like you'd always say to me,
you're a pason that never did anything for anyone. So,
what do you think about buying an old jewel coffee
at McDonald's today, I'm like thinking, why do I have
to buy you a coffee? But I would do it.
You know. It was always fun to go to McDonald's
with him. He loved mc He was obsessed with McDonald's.
And he'd always get recognized by black people at McDonald's.
(33:52):
And it was the thrill of his life that black
people knew about him. Yeah, because they'd always come over
and like, Yo, mister Mason, man, you the best, you
the man, mister may said Caddy Shack too, son, that's
that's my that's my so so he'd be like, thank
you very much. I can't believe it. I'm so happy.
I'm so thrilled to have a fan like you. And
then walk away. He goes, I don't know how they
know me. I don't know where they know me from.
I can't believe it. I don't know how I'm such
(34:13):
a hit in the black community. But he loved it,
and and he'd always get that kind of like love
it at at McDonald's. And he was also just obsessed
with McDonald I think he must have been invested heavily
in their stock, like he was always obsessed with how
McDonald's was doing and if they rolled down new products.
But that's not the story you want. The story's at
Albone Pan and he was playing the Westbury US Music
(34:35):
Fair that night.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
And I'm like, a big theater or something or something
nice club like that.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, No, it's like a it's like a venue. It's
it's a concert venue, you know. It's it's like a
you know, a much smaller version of the Hollywood Bowl
in Westbury, Long Island, I guess. And I just remember,
I'm like two years into comedy and he's like, I'm
playing at the west Where are you playing tonight? I'm like, oh,
(35:01):
I have a I was like so excited I had
a spotted stand up New York because that's a big
deal for me. I'm like, I'm at stand up New York.
All right, Okay, either where I am tonight? I'm at
the Westbury Music Fair? Oh great, yeah sure right. Look
at you. It's killing you with jealousy to know that
I'm at the Westbury Music Fair when you're at some
dinky little comedy club. I'm like, no, it's not I'm
(35:24):
you know, I'm happy for you. You're a legend. You're
a legend, You're a llegend. You think I don't know
that you're nauseous, you're sick about the fact that I'm
making a ton of money and I'm playing the Westbury
Music Fair and your career's going nowhere. In the meantime,
I'm a major sensation and I got massive amounts of
money and people coming out to see me tonight. You
think that I don't. You think I believe that you're
(35:45):
okay with this? And I go, no, I really am ok.
You're a liar. You're an unbelievable liar in it. You're
not even good at it. And I'll tell you something.
You start screaming at it.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
I get to recognize at McDonald's, I'm like, no, I really,
I really, you know, I'm really I think he was
kind of testing, you know, even though it was like joking,
and you know, to this day, I look back at
it and I think it was like a little.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Bit of was it a rash act test or whatever
you call it, I don't know, Yeah, yeah, I don't know,
just one of those tests where you just like wanted
to see, like, is this guy really jealous of me?
Like even a little bit, and like I think he saw,
Oh no, he's not, he's not.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
And then he's also kind of having fun with you
because it's so ridiculous, and.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
So yeah, it was. It was a bit, but it
was also there was a truth to it, like there
was I because I know him well and I knew
that there was Like it was a bit enough so
that you could say, oh, it was just a bit,
but there was also this like I'm just testing. I
want to know if this guy is sitting here and
he's jealous of me, or if he's like really my
friend and he's really in my corner and he and
(36:45):
he and he's happy for me.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Was there ever any opportunity did he have opening comics
that did he have opening acts like comedians would open
for him?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
No one opened for him. Yeah, you never had any
comics opening for him.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
That's weird, right, I guess when at that level, they
just get so they just the crowd wants to see
them do an hour.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
And plus Now I used to say, you're probably miserable,
but the fact that I don't take you to open
for me, but I'll tell you I'm sorry. I don't
take anyone to open for me. I don't like having openers.
I never liked having openers. I used to have openers.
I got rid of the openers. The openers people come
to see me, and then I feel bad that I
should put up another person in front of them. What
am I too busy to come out on stage? What's
(37:22):
this idea that another person you paid a lot of
money to come and see me, and now I'm saying, here,
here's somebody else that's part of the time that you
paid for to see me, and now I'm giving you
someone you didn't pay to see, and now you got
to see this guy. And if that guy's not even good,
then I got to try and win the crowd back.
And if they're very good, then I got to try
and compete with that. I don't understand why anybody would
(37:43):
have an opener. It makes absolutely no sense to me.
If you come to see a Jackie Mason show, you
get Jackie Mason. What kind of an idea is that
you have to see somebody else? Why should you have
to see somebody else when you want to see this person.
If you go in to get a sandwich and you say, I,
what a turkey sandwich that they say, okay, fine, but
first have a two a sandwich. You know you wanted
to take your sandwich. Why do you have to be
forced to have another?
Speaker 1 (38:05):
I like traveling with friends though, man, I'd love to
get to the point where you could bring friends on
the road, you know what I mean, like other good
comments and make it a whole like you know, w'
you never take me anywhere? Well, I gotta get to
that next level. I see it in your own you're jealous.
I started parties. I don't need you. You shouldn't be
making out these parties. You're keeping up the whole neighborhood. Yeah, yeah,
you have to bring you on flashlight. I saw you
(38:26):
did out to Danny. You start, I use a flashlight.
Now you're using a flashlight.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
But no guy like this one went through so many
flash lights in his career. I know.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
All right, man, Danny, I want to thank you so
much for coming on and come back.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Okay, please, okay please? Yeah, and check out me and
Mark Shift's podcast, which Darren's been on. He was our
first guest. We kicked it off with him because he's
the best. He gets the party started. He got our
podcast party started. And you're going to be back on.
I talked to Mark Shift and and we're hoping to
have you on again soon. Thank you. It's called we
think it's funny and it's a great pie. I love
(38:58):
listen to your podcast. Thank you. Well, we're honored that
you listen to it here.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
I love how I say, come back on and go
come back do it to give me bum in his
uh jeep come back, I.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Do legendary jeep wrangler man. That's right.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
This is one of your dreams right as a young boy.
You want to have a jeep.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
This was my dream like I had. I had pretty
low goals. I've accomplished them already, and that's why I
am added to nothing else. You have to shoot high?
Why jeep? Why was that your goal? My uncle had
a jeep and I just I would see it was
the coolest thing I ever saw. And when I saw
him pull up in the jeep house, he never would
come over, but when he came over and he was
(39:35):
in that jeep, I was just like entranced with the jeep.
I just was like, it's the most perfect looking car.
And then the more I would find out about jeeps,
like I was like they could go over the curbs.
You don't have to worry about curbs anymore. Every other
car you have to worry about curbs. Why would anybody?
Then I'm like, the roof opens up. It's a convertible.
Why would anybody not want that? You know? And then
(39:57):
just everything about jeeps. I love the The air conditioning
is great in a Jeep. The heating is great in
a jeep. You know, you could go on road, you
could go off road, you could go four wheel, you
could drive in the snow.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
You might be one of those guys that, once you
like get a lot of money going, you might be
like collecting different types of Jeep.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
I would, I would. I would buy lots of different
I'd like a nineteen eighties Jeep Wrangler. I would buy
a new like the newest Jeep Wrangler, and like an
old classic Jeep Wrangler. Yeah, I would love. I love
Jeep Wranglers like and I don't. I'm not a car guy, like,
but I am a jeep guy. Like I don't really
care about Ferraris and Lamborghinis. And maybe if I had one,
(40:36):
i'd change my tomb. Maybe they're amazing to drive, but
I'm so happy with a Jeep, Like you could fit
so much. It's a giant box. The jeep, like you
could fit almost nothing doesn't fit in the jeep. So
that's cool, man. And I'm big and I fit in
the jeep. You know that's true. Your car should be
I'll close it with this. Your car. Your car is
(40:57):
like your clothes, you know, like you go around, you know,
like you put on a layer of clothes that you
feel represents you. So you're dress in your clothes, and
then you dress in your car like your car is,
you know, your clothes to the to the driving world.
And like, you know, I used to be in a
car that didn't it was It felt like I was
driving clothes that weren't my style. And then I finally
(41:20):
am you know, I'm wearing what I want to wear,
and you know, driving when I want to drive. I
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Speaker 1 (41:34):
Did you break down? Oh shitty, mumbled that part. There's
a reason we're part two.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Okay, just get this any movement. It's been for a week.
Here's the tow truck the podcast over.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
All, Right, guys, thank you so much for checking out
The Party Pocket Party Podcast once again, hit that link
buy me a coffee and leave some comments on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Now buying a coffee, buy.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
God bless you guys, have a great rest of your day.
Thank you so much by everybody.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Listen to Darren Carter. We all know he's the party starter.
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So if you want to listen to a podcast for
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Speaker 2 (42:13):
The Pocket Party
Pocket Party, and we're back. Everybody at your host Darren Carter,
the Party Starter, and we are doing a special episode
of the Pocket Party podcast. We're in a jeep behind
the laugh Factory. By the way, if you love the show,
or even if you just tolerate it, go to buy
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(00:23):
It's called buy me a Coffee dot com slash Darren Carter.
Who am I in the jeep with mister Daniel Lobell.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Actually in the jeep with Jackie Mason, and I got
the news for you. The fact that a guy like you,
who's a party starter and an international sensation who's got
millions of fans, is trying to get people to buy
you coffees is absolutely nauseating. And I'll tell you something.
If a guy like you can't buy your own coffee,
we're all doomed. And if anybody out there buys this
man of coffee, you ought to get knocked in the face.
(00:53):
And if you see me on the street, you better
get across the street to the other way, and you
don't come dibby, because I'll tell you something. I'll not
you right up?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Okay, wow, Jackie, you're very violent. I'll trying to do
They're just trying to support the podcast, my friend.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I got no problem with it. You ever seen these
van trailer quests like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what do
they do? They got like, oh no, I think you're
very nice? And then like the Dommy era, you're a whore.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
You know, I would totally buy you a coffee. But
Jackie Jackue, Wait, so Danny would you buy me it?
Would you only buy me a coffee? You yourself would
support the Pucket Party podcast?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
And oh yeah, one hundred percent I would do it.
But Jackie Mason, he would if he was around, he
would have he would have knocked anyone in the face.
Who does that?
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Wait there he is right there, Jackie. What do you
think of supporting people's podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
By I'll tell you something that's absolutely disgusting to me
that a person who tries to make a living by
making people left should try and get a guy like you,
who's an innocent pyson who barely makes any money to
begin with, and you got to live in your parents
basement and who knows what you gotta do just to
script together twenty dollars just to get through the month,
and this guy who's a Hollywood star is trying to
(01:55):
get your coffee money. Ha ha. But I think it's
great there and person.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
You yourself, no, but you know, I also you know,
and I tell the people I go listen if you
if you don't want to go to you know, click
the link and throw us a couple you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
You should be allowed to ask for coffee, would you feel?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
But I also told me, you know what, in other ways,
that you would just tell a couple of people about
the podcast or leave comments because it helps the algorithm,
especially if they go to YouTube.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But now you yourself, you like that people would leave
a comment, right me? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
What would Jackie think of me telling the audience please
go to YouTube and leave me comments?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Well, do you think these people got nothing better to do?
You think they're just sitting around waiting to write comments
for you? If they got something to say, You don't
think they would say it. If you think that they would,
they're holding back all these comments from them.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
No, Jackie, I'm not saying them, but you're right, I
am begging for comments.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
To this algorithm and beholding to the algorithm. Now you've
got to force people who aren't writers to begin with
to start coming up with things that they never wanted
to say because they feel that this guy who's got
nothing going on. Apparently they try and force people to
take their time away from their family. The kids are
screaming and the mother can do anything. The father says, yeah,
I gotta come up with another comment for Darren Carter
(03:08):
because she needs to start another body. And oh and
also you're gonna hate this one, Jackie.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Can you turn the line on real quick because I
don't let my reading glasses on and I want to
see if this thing is recording. This is gold Are
we recording? Of course it's Do you see the numbers
moving and whatnot? They look like I can't see nothing, man,
I should have brought my glasses, but.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I'm like a Ventril was no doubt.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I also have a great very I'm very grateful for you.
Know how you have different like listeners and fans. And
there's one that goes beyond that, a special. Her name
is Galaxy Goddess aka Casey. She also now would you
like this? Danny goes to listen to the podcast, will
go on YouTube and make time stamps for different topics
that are happening, and it's great, right, yeah, And I
(03:49):
tell her, I said, don't feel behold, don't feel you know,
I don't want you to be stressed out over if
you just want to if you don't, if you don't
want to do it, that's cool. If you just want to,
like do one time stamp, two four, whatever. But she'll
go through and find different things. She actually enjoys it. Now,
what would Jackie Mason think of that?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
It's nice that you got a yent out there. We's
got nothing better to do than to leave time stamps.
You know, she's in Beaumont, Texas. It's unfortunate, you though.
When I was alive, I had women do a lot
better things than that. But if that's what you want
to have these brods do, then that's comics today. It's
(04:24):
a totally different times, Jacks. When I was going around,
we had ideas of what we wanted. Our fans were
brouds that they would do. It happened to be a
little different than what you're doing. But sure, if that's
what floats your mouth to get the comments and time stamps.
I liked other things, Oh my gosh, she's so much
funnier than me. It's not even is hilarious.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Dude, you should be reincarnated.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I'll tell you the truth. If I've had abroad and
she was willing to do something for me, time stamps
would be the last thing on my mond, and she's like, Alex,
he got this. Okay, here's what I want to know.
You're absolutely stunning. She's beautiful. You know what I got
her doing going on the internet and time stamping. You're
(05:14):
the best man.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I got a question, Danny, So listen. You're from New
York City. Uh, there's five boroughs. I'm from the West Coast,
so I'm learning there's five Burroughs. Tell the audience the
five boroughs. Can I try it? Or do you just
want to tell me, you know, like the back of
your hand. I'm gonna guess I'm probably gonna be wrong,
but I'm gonna say I'm gonna there's a I think
there's a boroughs.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
There's John Burrows. Nobody knows.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I knew John Burrows because I went to John Burrow's school.
But okay, let me think there's Manhattan, Queen's Long Island,
Brooklyn Island, and Staten Island.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Okay, you got Manhattan, you got Queen Bonkers. No, No,
the Bronx. Sorry, okay, okay, so it's Madland's not one
of them, but you got the all five. Okay, Manhattan,
and I've lived in I was originally from Queens, so
I lived in Queens and then we moved to Long Island,
not a borough, but I did live there. Then when
I went to college, I moved to Manhattan. Then when
(06:11):
I graduated college and I moved to Brooklyn. So I
never lived in Staten Island or the Bronx, but I've
covered a lot of them. You know, if we were to.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Do broad strokes of these different boroughs. Manhattan is where
the money's at, right, That's where like, if you get
money and you could live anywhere, as you probably live
in Manhattan.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, I guess the big money's in Manhattan. But there's
a lot of money in Brooklyn too. You know, Brooklyn
has become very fancy, a lot of it. When I
was there, it was just getting gentrified, you know. But
I got gentrified out of it, you know, I like
to you know, the early white settlers get pushed out
by the richer white settlers. Not that I'm white but
you know, and then what is Yonkers? Nakers is in
(06:55):
the Bronx, in the Bronx, And what about Staten Island.
That's that's who lives a lot of I was gonna
say something racist, of course, I mean there're more make racist.
I mean it's an Italian racism. I don't know if
I think you're allowed to be racist against Italians. I
(07:16):
was gonna say a bunch of gozanos, you know, No,
I was yeah, like you know, yeah, it's a lot
of firefighters and yeah, and uh and guys who are
like this sandwhich is nice? I want it nice? Make
it nice? Yeah? What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Do?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Make it nice? You know what I want with the
provolone and the salami and ad this and that in
the mazadel make it nice? What about and what is? Uh?
What do? What do? What do we leave out? We
left out a Bronx. The Bronx. That's where Jennifer Lopez
is from.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Somebody told me when I was in Manhattan, because I
spent some time in Manhattan in ninety a lot of
time in ninety three and ninety four, I think they
said the Bronx, if you drive by, you'll see cars
broken down on the freeway. They're like on fire or
all their tires are off. They made it sound like
the Bronx was like a scary place.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Well, there's different parts of the Bronx, you know, like
Yankers is a nicer part. But yeah, I think there's
good and bad parts of the Bronx. I don't know
how bad the bad parts are because I've never explored that,
but yeah, it could be. I don't know. I mean
that was also like, you know, I feel like, you know,
coming to America with Eddie Murphy with the trash cans
(08:31):
on fire. That's like a New York of the past,
of Yesteryear, Yester Year.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I got a question. Okay, so I love your Jackie
Mason impression. How did you get to know Jackie Mason?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Because you actually knew him and you hung out with them,
you guys became friends. So I interviewed him. I had
a magazine called The Comical. It was a comedy magazine.
I interviewed him for the cover and I back then
it was well before podcasting and the equipment for doing
remote interviews. I got a mini disc player just to
show you how old I am and if people even
(09:02):
know what that is, but MANI discs were like almost
like many floppy discs almost, but they weren't floppy. They
were hard. They're like hard, they're like CDs but smaller,
but in like a square with a CD in it
and you put it into this machine, it would always
break anyway. So I interviewed him and I was asking
(09:24):
him questions like how did you get started? And who
were your influences? You know, the things a young comic
might ask. And then I went back to the college
to transcribe the interview. In fairness, I wasn't the one
transcribing it, but I was there. I can't type, but
I was there with my friend Sal who was the
transcriber designated, and we're playing the mini disc and it's
(09:46):
skipping all over the place. The interview didn't. It was like,
I'd be like, who are your influences? That's why I
took And Jackie had said, if you have any follow
up questions, call me, you know, So I was like,
what are we gonna do? Do you remember what he said?
I'm like no, I was just so enthralled with that.
I was sitting with him, and I didn't I didn't
like soak in what he was saying at the time,
(10:08):
I was going to listen back, so I said, you
know what, he said, I could call him if I
had a follow up question. So I called him and
he said hello. He said, Jackie Mason, that's right to me.
I said, uh, HiT's Danny Lobell from the comedy magazine.
Uh huh you remember you said I could ask you
if I had any follow up questions? Sure, sure, I said,
so when I asked you, you know, who were your influences? Yeah,
(10:33):
I just wanted to follow up on that. What do
you mean you wanted to follow up on it? I said,
Lenny Bruce. I said, you know whoever? He said, I
don't remember who else? He said jack Benny. I said,
these people were Refluchs. What's the follow up? I said, no, nothing,
You're right, You're right. It's uh but thank you. I
just wanted to clarify that. Okay, hang upew So we
(10:53):
typed that out and then the next question of the interview,
so like, when did you get started started with? And
that's why what it's all and I look at each other. Yeah,
I was like, I'll call him. I said, hey, Jackie,
(11:15):
Uh yeah, remember me, I just talked to you a
few minutes ago. Of course I remember you. What's the question?
I just had another follow up question. Okay, what is it?
Remember when I was asking you how you got started? Yeah,
so that's why I follow up on that. He goes,
what are you talking about? I said, you know, just
(11:36):
like a little more details on how he got started? Goes,
we do you mean details? What did I not tell you?
I said, well, just tell me the whole thing again.
He goes, you lost the interview, didn't you. Oh? I said, well,
it's a technical issue. It's not like I lost it,
but it's not really playing right. He goes, all right,
I'll tell you something. You could come down to the
Wellington Diner. I'll be there tonight with some friends and
bring a recorder and we'll do it again. So I said, okay,
(11:59):
So I go down. Then that night we do their interview,
and we got on pretty good. And I thought, hey,
you know, I think me and Jackie Mason have like
a little bit of a friendship chemistry here, you know.
And I just had been I guess you would say
awarded or given a college radio show, maybe like that
morning or something. And I'm like, wouldn't it be cool,
(12:20):
I could invite him to do the radio show. So
before I left, I said, thank you so much for
doing the interview and for redoing it. He goes, okay,
my pleasure. I said, And by the way, I just
got a college radio show. If you're interested, I'd love
to have you on it. And he just flipped out
of it me. He goes, You're the most obnoxious person
I ever met in my life. First, you bothered me
(12:40):
for an interview for a magazine that nobody's gonna read.
And I'm a big star, and I take time out
of my date. They give you an interview because I
feel bad for you and I want to help you up.
And then you called me up and you're asking me
questions because you wouldn't admit that you lost the interview.
Then I give you a second interview, and now you
want a third interview. What the hell's wrong with you?
Disgusting with this and that you know you're gonna get
(13:03):
nowhere in this business. Obviously, you have no respect for
people's time, and you think you're by screams at me.
I don't even know. It's like wallah, oh no, So
he says, get the out of here. I don't want
to see you again. I don't want to know you.
So I left and I was so depressed. I'm walking
through Times Square and my head is down and I'm
(13:24):
like talking so negatively to myself. I'm like, you're an idiot.
You're an idiot. Look at you. You know, you know
you're so stupid. Of course you don't ask him for
another thing. And the next day, I'm so depressed and
then the phone rings and I answer, Hello, Hello, this
is Jackie Mason. Let me ask you. You know, I
think I was a little hard on you yesterday and
(13:44):
I just want to ask you. You know, I'm sorry,
and I want to ask you if you're interested. I'm
going out to an Italian restaurant tonight with a few friends,
and you know, I just want to, you know, if
you're read, if you want to come to you know.
If it's not, I understand, but if you want to
come down, and I'll make it up you and I'll
buy you a spaghetti. So I said, oh, okay, So
now I go, and I'm pretty nervous or whatever, and
(14:06):
I'm sitting there and somehow impressions come up and Jackie
does incredible impressions of Jack Benny and who else did
he do? Who did all the USO tours? Bob Hope,
Bob Hope, and my brain froze for a second. And
Milton Burle he did all the Old Time Guys and
(14:27):
the Grout Show. And he goes, this guy says, he's
a comedian, you got any impressions? So I did Adam Sandler,
which I would be afraid to do now because I'm
so out of practice on him. But at the time
it was like I had I had Sandler down, and
he and his friends were like stunned that I did
such a good Adam Sandler. Oh, like, I'm still doing
(14:50):
Jackie Mason pretty well. So just imagine I'm doing Adam
Sandler that well. I was doing it really well. If
I did it now, you'd be like, oh, he's a liar,
he never did it well. But I'm telling you I
did do it well. Yeah, And then he goes, who
else do you have? And I did Bib Natan Yaho,
you know, the Israeli Prime Minister, Bib not Yahu. I
want to say that Iran poses a big threat to
(15:13):
Israel to America, you know. Then I started going in
to the BB Natanyahu and he goes, this is unbelievable.
This guy's got bb uping Yahoo down. And he does
ad him Sandler better than Sandler, and this and that,
and I can't believe it. I thought this guy was
a complete bum and a schmuck and an idiot. But
it turns out that he actually has some talent. I
didn't know a guy like this was talented. He looked
like a complete moron to me. So so his friend said, Jackie, yeah,
(15:39):
he's he's good man. I think he's got it. So
he goes, all right, all right, if everybody says so,
then you're in and I'm in. He goes, you're in,
You're in. Come back again tomorrow. We're going to be
at the Wellington where you saw me yesterday. And that
was it. I just saw him every day every day
for years. And then and then he you know, my
(15:59):
magazine came out with the article and it was glossy
and he was on the cover and he loved it
and he was telling everybody, was showing everyone. And then
like you know, I could only afford like a cup
of coffee because I was always broke, and any money
I had went into the magazine. You know, we didn't
have funders or anything. It was it's a miracle that
I even had a magazine. So he said, you know,
(16:20):
I never met a guy who's so broke and has
a glossy magazine. How could it happen and a guy
could have a magazine. You're supposed to be a media mogul.
You're the most the least mogul. I haven't met of
any good buddy in the media. You don't even have
money for a sandwich. It's embarrassing, he goes. He goes,
how do you afford anything? I said, I don't work
here and there selling light bulbs or something. I said.
(16:42):
I said, anything I got I put into the magazine.
He goes, you need a better job. He goes, you know,
why don't you come in some merchandise for me at
my Broadway show. We're about to open up at the
Hell and H Theater and you could. I'll give you
a few nights of the week. My friend Morty, who
I've known since I was young, he does some nights.
I can't take everything from him, you know, if you're
trying to steal all this work, I'm like, I'm not
trying to steal anybody okay, so I could tell that
(17:06):
you already don't like the fact that Morty is involved.
I said, no, no, I don't pretend you're jealous. You
want it all the nights, You're only getting some of
the nights. They always would bust your balls like that.
So I said, okay, all right, I'd like to do it,
all right, fine, So yeah, I don't remember. He gave
me a percentage of the sales, and I became a
hustler for Jackie Mason cassettes and CDs. At the Broadway show,
(17:27):
everybody's walking around in the intermission looking for a cocktail,
and I'm saying, hey, I only have a few more
of these CDs, Like I'm like a like an African
guy on the street in the in the fashion district
to do listen, come here, you lack a Jackie Messan
right you at the show? Right, I was pushing this stuff, like, okay,
(17:48):
this is our spitchal deal for you. Only two more left.
Then he had cassettes and like people don't even buy
I'm I'm not African. I'm like, people don't even buy
cassettes anymore. These are collectible. Where else are you gonna
get up? Jackie Mason cassette. This is your only chance.
People go all right him. Know what this guy's deal is.
Nobody pushes merch a Broadway that hard. You know, have
(18:10):
you ever heard even any concert where they pushed the
merch on you? Not like that. So I was selling
tons of stuff, and I was making hundreds of dollars
because he cut me in on the sales. That's nice.
And at the end of every week, you'd have us
in the back room at the Helen Hayes Theater, me
and Morty, who was like, I don't know, seventy, and
he was like a skinny, frail guy in a Mets
cap with white hair, looked kind of like Woody Allen,
(18:31):
and he would he would just berate this guy in
front of me. But look at the sales. The kid
is absolutely slaughtering you. You see what he's done. He's
made three thousand dollars on cassette tapes. You brought in
forty dollars. And you're supposed to be my friend for
many years. Look at you, disgrace. You can't even do
anything right. You were up on your own life. I
try to help you out and you'd screw me, and
you took them, and it was really hard to sit
(18:53):
there and watch that and thin. I'd be like, I'm sorry, Jackie,
I'm just I'm try harder, you try harder. Look at
this guy. I don't badly know him. I give him
a job. He's making unbelievable hand over fist sales. And
I'm and with you. I give you one night and
what do I do. You're gonna make me broke. I'm
gonna have to give up my place, you.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Know, so that you know these characters are awesome.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah, so I'm sorry I didn't. Yeah, so try harder.
You're sorry. Look at this kid, he's got nothing. He's fat,
you know, he's a fat kid who runs the magazine.
He's got spaghetti. Yeah, he goes, he goes, he goes.
You think this a guy like this, how do you feel?
A guy like this is absolutely pulverizing you. A fat
(19:36):
kid who has no money. So it was like it's
something to me and him, you know, it's just something everybody.
So anyway, he'd be like, uh, you know, so was
my night off? One night and I'm walking around Times
Square I lived around there, and my phone rings and
it's Jackie goes, are you're gonna be done at the
show tonight. I said, no, it's my night off, I goes.
(19:58):
He goes, I know it's wing tonight. I said yeah.
So he says, all right, let me ask you a question.
You like Georgie Carlin. I said, Georgie Carlin, you mean
George Carlin? Yeah, I said, I love George Carlin. I
didn't ask you if you love George Carlin. I said,
do you like George can Now it's nauseating. You're sound
like a teenager fan, like a girl. I didn't.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Now.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
I regret even asking the question. I did say, do
you love George Carlin? Look at you? Then I say, oh,
you love George Carlin. You talk about me like that.
You're talking only at George Carlin. Oh, it's George Carlin.
I was like, all right, all right, just why why
are you asking me? He goes, all right, I'll tell you.
Georgie Carlin happens to be a big fan of mine,
and he's a friend of mine, and he's coming down
to see my show tonight, and I thought it might
(20:42):
be a kick for you to meet him. So if
you're not too busy and you want to come down
after the show, I'll introduce you, and that's what happened.
And then he gave me the greatest introduction ever to Carlin.
He said, this guy's fantastic. He does impressions, he's funny,
he's an up and coming guy. He does he's got
a magazine. I was on the cover of his magazine.
(21:04):
You should be on the cover of the magazine. He's like,
all right, I'll be on the magazine. So he goes,
he goes, So George goes take my number. You know,
I was like, all right, heymn and then he holds
up the finger. He goes like, like, you know, his
index meer. He goes share it with no one, you know, right, So,
were you like flying high that night that you got
his phone number? You just like was your are You're like,
(21:25):
oh my gosh, I can't believe I met George Carlin.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I have his phone number, Like did you did you
like call your parents or like was it one of
those nights?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Actually it's funny. My dad was in the neighborhood and
I told him I'm with Jackie Mason and George Carlin.
Where are you. He's like, I'm I'm in a Times
Square area from He just finished a job as a photographer.
I said, you want to come down and meet them.
I'm with them in the back room at the and
I asked. Jackie said, Okay, my dad's in the area.
He says, don't want to come down. So my dad
(21:55):
comes down and he just come from a he's a photographer.
He has had his camera on him. He took some
pictures of the three of us also, so I have
these nice pictures that are like, oh, of me with
me in the middle and Jackie on one side with
his arm around me, and George on the other side
with his arm around me. It's a very cool picture.
I'll show you sometime and then you know, I wind
(22:16):
long story short, wound up interviewing George for the magazine cover.
Interviewed him another two times over the phone from my
college radio show, which was podcasted at this point. We
were the first comedy podcast. And then George said, I'll
come into the college and do it in person, and
he did, and then we would talk on the phone.
He was very serious. He wasn't like, you know, when
(22:36):
I do this Jackie stuff. Jackie was always funny when
he was talking. George was funny on stage. He was
rarely his character from stage in my experience off stage,
except for one time. One time he was the George
Carlin from on stage. Normally it would just be like, hey,
(22:57):
how's it going, you know, all right? Yeah, but one
time he used to call me. For a brief period
of time, I don't know how many months, he took
a real interest in my career. Then it fizzled out.
We never you know, we never lost contact until he died.
But like there was a little period of time when
he was like really into, like knowing what I was doing.
And so he calls me up and I'd just gotten
(23:21):
back from bombing at this little place called the Village
Lantern in the village, and he said, did you go
up tonight? And I said yeah. He goes, and how
did it go? And I said, well, be honest with you,
my bomb terribly. He goes, Where were you? He said, well,
a little place called the Village Lantern, actually only a
(23:42):
few doors down from where you used to play at
the Bitter End. Yeah, what happened? I said, I don't know.
I did the same jokes that usually worked, but they
just didn't like him. Yeah, I'll tell you, man, I
used to fucking bomb all the time down there. He said, really,
he goes, yeah, and those are some long subway rides
(24:05):
back up to Harlem. I used to have to go
back up to Harlem. You didn't have to go there,
I said, well, I go to Brooklyn. He goes. Fucking sucks,
doesn't it. You have to sit there waiting for the
train thinking about shameful. It feels that your bomb. I go, yeah,
it's terrible. He goes, but I'll tell you something and
I want you to know this, And I wish I
knew it when I was younger. They're fucking wrong. I
(24:26):
was like, what. He goes, the audience, they're fucking wrong.
I said, oh really, he goes, No, get it into
your head. You're funny. You know you're funny. They aren't funny.
They're fucking wrong. If someone funny goes up and they're
funny and people who don't know funny are sitting there
and they're not laughing, then who's right and who's wrong?
(24:50):
You're right and they're fucking wrong. He's like, oh oh,
So I was like, wow, thank you.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
You know.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
He's like so that was like, you know, that was
almost like him on stage. You know, yeah, you know, Yeah,
I could see that the world. Yeah, I haven't even noticed
the audiences are wrong.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, I got a question, remember that tell the audience
about how you were telling me what it was like
walking with George, like on campus, how people would recognize
him and he would stop and give him a moment.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Right, Yeah, So I went down. The funniest thing is
to go to pick him up. And this is kind
of recent, you know, nine to eleven had been recent,
so like Manhattan colleges in Manhattan, and it's like pretty
locked down, and it was very hard for me to
get people. It was always a struggle. I had to
go through all these hoops to get anybody on my show,
(25:47):
and I had to go and get names cleared several
days in advance, and I had to follow up with
the office and make sure their name was on the
security list, and then the list off and didn't get
to security. So for Carlin, I really made sure his
name is there so when he gets there, she gets
a few minutes early. I come down there. We had
this Jamaican security guard. She was so funny, but she
(26:08):
was such a ballbuster and she just like not on purpose,
she wasn't trying to be funny, but it was funny
what a ballbuster was? She was, I come down there,
there's George Carlin in the flesh at my college, at
the door, at the entrance where the turnstiles are where
they have to buzz you through. And this Jamaican security
lady goes, I don't know who know George Carlin is? Okay,
(26:29):
old man, if you know on the list, you know
on the list. And I'm like, oh, no, okay, old man.
You listen to me right now, old man. And I
look at him and he was loving it. Yeah, it
was like and then when I walked him up, he goes, man,
that brought me back. I know. Nobody talks to me
like that anymore. That's cool. Here She's like, I don't
(26:50):
know who fucking George Carlin is. I was like, oh good.
He took all but every few feet someone would stop
him and then recognize him, and they be always kind
of a similar thing.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Like, no way, man, George Carlin, you're George Carlin. Yeah, dude,
my dad saw you in Paramus, New Jersey in nineteen
seventy eight. He still talks about that concert. We'll tell
your dad thanks for coming, And I hope he's he
seems like a swell guy who have raised a kid like.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
You, And you know, he's making eye contact with them
and he's smiling, and he goes and then he'd offer
them a picture, you know, like when you meet someone famous,
you want a picture, Yeah, and you're afraid to ask.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Here we forget you're still nervous, and you're picture if
you want a picture, so he can show your dad.
Let's get a picture together. That's cool, okay, And we
walk another five feet. You know, hey, George Carlin, my
dad saw you in Paramus, New Jersey, you know, or
wherever a different plays or whatever, and a slightly different
story but all the same.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, that's amazing. Wow, your dad what does he do
for a living? He's a carpenter, cool man. That's awesome. Well,
tell me he raised a great kid. You want a
picture to get We walk another five feet. Hey, you're
George Carlin. And and that's how it was for him,
Like to get from from one place to the other
was like, you know what, I'm trying to rush to
(28:12):
get back up to the to get on the air.
But it must have took us like twenty five minutes
to walk two minutes because everybody knew George Carlin, and
everybody had some story that was vaguely about him, and
everybody wanted to tell it to him. And he showed
every single person the most unbelievable respect, didn't make them
(28:33):
feel rushed, looked them in the eyes, smiled widely, offered
them photographs. He understood what that moment meant to people
because it's the probably the only moment in their life
where they meet George Carlin, and he wanted that to
be a special moment for them. So, like, you know,
he didn't let anybody have a bad moment with George Carlin,
(28:53):
like this is your time that you meet George Carlin,
and wow, is he a nice guy? You know? And
he he was a terrific guy. Never knew such a
nice guy. And like he used to tell me, why
don't you call me more? I said, all right, I will,
but I wouldn't because I was nervous because I was
always like I'm gonna blow the friendship. You know.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah, you ever heard those stories like he would call
comics at our hotel room like if they were in
you know, just just you know, like if you guys
were like both at Lake Tahoe and he would, you know,
people answer their phone in their hotel room and George
carl would be on there and wish them luck, or
they talk about the show.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Have you heard that?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Those kind of stories.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
He left Lewis Black a voicemail. Lewis told me one
time he said that. He said, Lois, I saw your special.
It was very funny. I'm not gonna do anything to
help you. I just want you to know. Bo Bigelow,
very funny on comic is calling. Can I take it?
I think he's looking for me. Yeah, take a real quick, ye,
(29:50):
take it real quick. Yeah, all right, his phone call
is on there. Darren by the way, Yeah, let him
know he's being recorded. You're being recorded on the Darren
Carter podcast.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Oh my god. I don't even know what to say.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
I was not prepared for this at all.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
This is like that moment when you meet George Carlin.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, Bo, I'm joined a podcast with Danny.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
How are you tonight?
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I'm doing fantastic. You know, the show was it was interesting,
it was good. I'm I'm you know. The weather is
incredible right now. I don't even have to wear a jacket.
I can just feel the breeze. Hit my arm hairs
right now, and.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
It's my arm hairs. Bo I got a question.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
You you saw my show last night, fresh off the presses.
Anything you want to say about my show that you
saw last night?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Oh man, I can't get over how incredible to the
the voiceovers are for body movement.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
I would say, oh my gosh, that was incredible. You
you blew me away with that. You get these movements
with your body and you're like making the quick of
the neck as you move, and the you do of
the most amazing sound effects. Like I have a sound
effects app and it's not as good as you. Oh,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Oh you mean like whenever I act like I'm cracking
my back or my I go like this, I.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Go yeah yeah, yeah yeah. And the beat boxing, but
like I'd never seen you do that. You're you're doing
that like demonic voice and you're go into slow motion
with it. What are you talking about like that thing? Yeah?
That was amazing. That was just incredible. Yeah, thank you. So,
by the way, Darren, we're gonna have to wrap the podcast.
(31:30):
My wife is coming to the jeep right now.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Okay, take you by the ball and ask you one
last final thing.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Right now. Thank you Bo, Thanks Bo, Thanks Bo.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah guy, last thing as we go, I want to
say thank you for doing the podcast, thank you for
coming on. We'll do it again. I love just the
real quick the story about you would tell Jackie remember
when you got that gig at that Newberry festival or whatever.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I love the Westberry means. I love what he would
do this with you. You could get in the back, kylee.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Oh, his wife gonna get in the back of the car.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Lot a podcast in the front, but the back is
audience seating. We're gonna, we're gonna wrap it up.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I just want to hear this final story.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I love this story as my beautiful wife, Kylie Oil LaBelle,
who you can follow on x She's an amazing writer.
So one time we're sitting at the aubum Pan. Aubum
Pan is like a chain of almost like a Starbucks
grade level chain in New York of French Ish themed
(32:31):
coffee shops, and Jackie was hysterically. He'd always be like,
I want you to meet me at the Oubbune Pen
at exactly two thirty and don't comet one, and don't
come it at two twenty and don't come at two forty,
because you know why you should come in to thirty
because at exactly to thirty they get rid of the
old pastries and they bring in new pastries. And you
could buy the same croissant that used to call your
(32:53):
cost you four dollars for fifty cents, and you have
to be an idiot to come five minutes early. It's
it's four dollars, and you just sit there for five
or four minutes. All of a sudden the price drops
the fifty cents. It's exactly the same croissant, and everybody
is and moron who comes in early. What I see
people I sit there and they buy it two minutes before,
and it's like unbelievable you're getting I'm getting the same
(33:15):
thing that that person just got for fifty cents, and
they spent four dollars on it. They got ripped off,
and that's why you got to beat me. Exactly at
two thirty they do the transfer of the pastries. So
it actually makes.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Sense no matter how much money you have. I mean
it just logically, he's making sense.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Well yeah, but you'd also like you'd always say to me,
you're a pason that never did anything for anyone. So,
what do you think about buying an old jewel coffee
at McDonald's today, I'm like thinking, why do I have
to buy you a coffee? But I would do it.
You know. It was always fun to go to McDonald's
with him. He loved mc He was obsessed with McDonald's.
And he'd always get recognized by black people at McDonald's.
(33:52):
And it was the thrill of his life that black
people knew about him. Yeah, because they'd always come over
and like, Yo, mister Mason, man, you the best, you
the man, mister may said Caddy Shack too, son, that's
that's my that's my so so he'd be like, thank
you very much. I can't believe it. I'm so happy.
I'm so thrilled to have a fan like you. And
then walk away. He goes, I don't know how they
know me. I don't know where they know me from.
I can't believe it. I don't know how I'm such
(34:13):
a hit in the black community. But he loved it,
and and he'd always get that kind of like love
it at at McDonald's. And he was also just obsessed
with McDonald I think he must have been invested heavily
in their stock, like he was always obsessed with how
McDonald's was doing and if they rolled down new products.
But that's not the story you want. The story's at
Albone Pan and he was playing the Westbury US Music
(34:35):
Fair that night.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
And I'm like, a big theater or something or something
nice club like that.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, No, it's like a it's like a venue. It's
it's a concert venue, you know. It's it's like a
you know, a much smaller version of the Hollywood Bowl
in Westbury, Long Island, I guess. And I just remember,
I'm like two years into comedy and he's like, I'm
playing at the west Where are you playing tonight? I'm like, oh,
(35:01):
I have a I was like so excited I had
a spotted stand up New York because that's a big
deal for me. I'm like, I'm at stand up New York.
All right, Okay, either where I am tonight? I'm at
the Westbury Music Fair? Oh great, yeah sure right. Look
at you. It's killing you with jealousy to know that
I'm at the Westbury Music Fair when you're at some
dinky little comedy club. I'm like, no, it's not I'm
(35:24):
you know, I'm happy for you. You're a legend. You're
a legend, You're a llegend. You think I don't know
that you're nauseous, you're sick about the fact that I'm
making a ton of money and I'm playing the Westbury
Music Fair and your career's going nowhere. In the meantime,
I'm a major sensation and I got massive amounts of
money and people coming out to see me tonight. You
think that I don't. You think I believe that you're
(35:45):
okay with this? And I go, no, I really am ok.
You're a liar. You're an unbelievable liar in it. You're
not even good at it. And I'll tell you something.
You start screaming at it.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
I get to recognize at McDonald's, I'm like, no, I really,
I really, you know, I'm really I think he was
kind of testing, you know, even though it was like joking,
and you know, to this day, I look back at
it and I think it was like a little.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Bit of was it a rash act test or whatever
you call it, I don't know, Yeah, yeah, I don't know,
just one of those tests where you just like wanted
to see, like, is this guy really jealous of me?
Like even a little bit, and like I think he saw,
Oh no, he's not, he's not.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
And then he's also kind of having fun with you
because it's so ridiculous, and.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
So yeah, it was. It was a bit, but it
was also there was a truth to it, like there
was I because I know him well and I knew
that there was Like it was a bit enough so
that you could say, oh, it was just a bit,
but there was also this like I'm just testing. I
want to know if this guy is sitting here and
he's jealous of me, or if he's like really my
friend and he's really in my corner and he and
(36:45):
he and he's happy for me.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Was there ever any opportunity did he have opening comics
that did he have opening acts like comedians would open
for him?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
No one opened for him. Yeah, you never had any
comics opening for him.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
That's weird, right, I guess when at that level, they
just get so they just the crowd wants to see
them do an hour.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
And plus Now I used to say, you're probably miserable,
but the fact that I don't take you to open
for me, but I'll tell you I'm sorry. I don't
take anyone to open for me. I don't like having openers.
I never liked having openers. I used to have openers.
I got rid of the openers. The openers people come
to see me, and then I feel bad that I
should put up another person in front of them. What
am I too busy to come out on stage? What's
(37:22):
this idea that another person you paid a lot of
money to come and see me, and now I'm saying, here,
here's somebody else that's part of the time that you
paid for to see me, and now I'm giving you
someone you didn't pay to see, and now you got
to see this guy. And if that guy's not even good,
then I got to try and win the crowd back.
And if they're very good, then I got to try
and compete with that. I don't understand why anybody would
(37:43):
have an opener. It makes absolutely no sense to me.
If you come to see a Jackie Mason show, you
get Jackie Mason. What kind of an idea is that
you have to see somebody else? Why should you have
to see somebody else when you want to see this person.
If you go in to get a sandwich and you say, I,
what a turkey sandwich that they say, okay, fine, but
first have a two a sandwich. You know you wanted
to take your sandwich. Why do you have to be
forced to have another?
Speaker 1 (38:05):
I like traveling with friends though, man, I'd love to
get to the point where you could bring friends on
the road, you know what I mean, like other good
comments and make it a whole like you know, w'
you never take me anywhere? Well, I gotta get to
that next level. I see it in your own you're jealous.
I started parties. I don't need you. You shouldn't be
making out these parties. You're keeping up the whole neighborhood. Yeah, yeah,
you have to bring you on flashlight. I saw you
(38:26):
did out to Danny. You start, I use a flashlight.
Now you're using a flashlight.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
But no guy like this one went through so many
flash lights in his career. I know.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
All right, man, Danny, I want to thank you so
much for coming on and come back.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Okay, please, okay please? Yeah, and check out me and
Mark Shift's podcast, which Darren's been on. He was our
first guest. We kicked it off with him because he's
the best. He gets the party started. He got our
podcast party started. And you're going to be back on.
I talked to Mark Shift and and we're hoping to
have you on again soon. Thank you. It's called we
think it's funny and it's a great pie. I love
(38:58):
listen to your podcast. Thank you. Well, we're honored that
you listen to it here.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
I love how I say, come back on and go
come back do it to give me bum in his
uh jeep come back, I.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Do legendary jeep wrangler man. That's right.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
This is one of your dreams right as a young boy.
You want to have a jeep.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
This was my dream like I had. I had pretty
low goals. I've accomplished them already, and that's why I
am added to nothing else. You have to shoot high?
Why jeep? Why was that your goal? My uncle had
a jeep and I just I would see it was
the coolest thing I ever saw. And when I saw
him pull up in the jeep house, he never would
come over, but when he came over and he was
(39:35):
in that jeep, I was just like entranced with the jeep.
I just was like, it's the most perfect looking car.
And then the more I would find out about jeeps,
like I was like they could go over the curbs.
You don't have to worry about curbs anymore. Every other
car you have to worry about curbs. Why would anybody?
Then I'm like, the roof opens up. It's a convertible.
Why would anybody not want that? You know? And then
(39:57):
just everything about jeeps. I love the The air conditioning
is great in a Jeep. The heating is great in
a jeep. You know, you could go on road, you
could go off road, you could go four wheel, you
could drive in the snow.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
You might be one of those guys that, once you
like get a lot of money going, you might be
like collecting different types of Jeep.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
I would, I would. I would buy lots of different
I'd like a nineteen eighties Jeep Wrangler. I would buy
a new like the newest Jeep Wrangler, and like an
old classic Jeep Wrangler. Yeah, I would love. I love
Jeep Wranglers like and I don't. I'm not a car guy, like,
but I am a jeep guy. Like I don't really
care about Ferraris and Lamborghinis. And maybe if I had one,
(40:36):
i'd change my tomb. Maybe they're amazing to drive, but
I'm so happy with a Jeep, Like you could fit
so much. It's a giant box. The jeep, like you
could fit almost nothing doesn't fit in the jeep. So
that's cool, man. And I'm big and I fit in
the jeep. You know that's true. Your car should be
I'll close it with this. Your car. Your car is
(40:57):
like your clothes, you know, like you go around, you know,
like you put on a layer of clothes that you
feel represents you. So you're dress in your clothes, and
then you dress in your car like your car is,
you know, your clothes to the to the driving world.
And like, you know, I used to be in a
car that didn't it was It felt like I was
driving clothes that weren't my style. And then I finally
(41:20):
am you know, I'm wearing what I want to wear,
and you know, driving when I want to drive. I
like it. Get Podcast is brought to you by They
do break down.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Did you break down? Oh shitty, mumbled that part. There's
a reason we're part two.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Okay, just get this any movement. It's been for a week.
Here's the tow truck the podcast over.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
All, Right, guys, thank you so much for checking out
The Party Pocket Party Podcast once again, hit that link
buy me a coffee and leave some comments on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
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Speaker 1 (41:56):
God bless you guys, have a great rest of your day.
Thank you so much by everybody.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Listen to Darren Carter. We all know he's the party starter.
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