January 5, 2025 • 55 mins
Fresh off our sets at the Comedy Store and a one week rain storm we talk: Elvis/ Colonel Tom Parker, Tales From The Bus, Country Singers Wilding Out, Comedians doing good deeds, Hooters, All About MALLS, and much much more!
https://linktr.ee/DarrenCarter
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/darren-carter-pocket-party--3090090/support.
https://linktr.ee/DarrenCarter
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/darren-carter-pocket-party--3090090/support.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Dan Carter.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hello, It is good to talk to you because I
have admired your career for some time.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Oh thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
From beyond the grave.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
When I represented Elvis, I thought, now I need a
new talent, and I saw you with your flashlights a
wonderful thing, and now I will represent you from beyond
the gray.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
If this is the most exciting news I've ever had,
I can't wait to tell my wife and everyone else
that Colonel Tom Parker is going to be representing.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Me and the party star merchandise, party Starter. I haven't
made party Starter, toaster oven, anything in the kitchen. Party
starting is going to happen. We're gonna have stickers that
say I love Darren Carter, stickers say I hate Dan Catter.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
We're not going to be pushing a lot of volume,
I don't think, but maybe with your help things will change.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Well, you'd be surprised people are already asking just from
hearing about them people.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I've gotten three hundred emails. Where do I get my
eye hate Darren Carter's.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Oh geez, We're back, everybody. Another episode of the Pocket
Party podcast. If you are in the San Francisco Bay
area February seventh. I will be at the throck Morton
Theater in Mill Valley, Mill Valley, throck Morton Theater February seventh.
I hope to see you, and it'll be great to
see my Bay Area fans again. And here on the
(01:19):
line we have mister Mike Black.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Hello, Dan Cartera.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Hello twenty twenty three. How are you, my friend?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It is good to talk to you because I have
admired your career for some time.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Oh, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
From beyond the grave.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
When I represented Elvis, I thought, now I need a
new talent, and I saw you with your flashlights a
wonderful thing, and now I will represent you from beyond
the gray.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
If this is the most exciting news I've ever had,
I can't wait to tell my wife and everyone else
at Colonel Tom Parker or it's gonna be representing me.
He's gonna That's okay, man, I figure you know, I
know you get fifty percent? You get Do you still
work with that scale?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
It's a sliding scale. You get.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I get seventy five percent and all the fat off
of your bacon morning.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
That's cool. I'm into that, But what about the seventy
five percent? I mean it's it's I mean, I'm gonna
be honest. I'm not making Elvis Presley money right now.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Look, you have enough to feed your wife and child
and the rest goes to promotion. Oh, I make the
party starter merchandise. Party Starter. Ivn't met party startera toaster oven,
anything in the kitchen. Party starting is going to happen.
I'm gonna have stickers that say I love Daron Carter,
(02:45):
stickers say I hate Dan Carter.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
What if I gotta be honest with you. What if
the I hate Darren Carter sells more than I love
Darren Carter.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I make money either way. It's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
You mean we we make money.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I make lots of money. Yes, I will make all
the money.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I mean, I know I hate to keep saying this
Elvis thing, but I mean you might sell two I
hate Darren Carter stickers and one I love ar I
think we're not moving. We're not gonna be pushing a
lot of volume. I don't think. But maybe with their
help things will change.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
We'll go. You'd be surprised people are already asking just
from hearing about them. People. I've gotten three hundred emails.
Where do I get my hate.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Oh geez, wow, they have emails up in heaven. I
didn't know. That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Not in heaven, but they have them where I yes.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Okay, is that where we get all the spam from?
Does it come from down there?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Also, I'm sending all this spoull.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Oh whoa? Well, okay, do you mind? Uh? I got
to click over and see if I can get I
try to call Mike Black. Hold on is something? The
wires must have got crossed somehow.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yes, carry on, my boy, have a good.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Day, Thank you, thank you, bye bye. Hello is Mike
Black there?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah? Man, my phone got hacked.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Oh dude, I hate when that happens.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Hey, Colonel Tom Parker, Oh well.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Hey, if that's that's I'd love to have a conversation
with him, that'd be I love in the movie when
he was like you and I we had the same
we had children or something like that. Right.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
So Tom Hanks is a national trigger. Everyone knows that.
But he was just outstanding in that movie. Yeah, gosh,
I know, what a great performance. I like, you forget
that it's him for you think like, oh, they just
that's just Colonel Tom Parker.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
And I'd heard enough stories about Tom Parker, and I've
seen a few interviews to where I was. I bought
all into it with the accent. I guess people who
had never heard of him were like, what is he
talking weird for? But I'm like, yeah, it's a good idea.
It's a good representation of like, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
They did such a good job on that movie. Like
I don't care whether you like Elvis or hate him.
It's an interesting movie. It's really fascinating and he was
so great in that part. I'd heard all the like
different crazy stories about that guy. Uh, it's if you
really want to hear some great ones, watch that Tales
(05:19):
from the Tour Bus, the Mike Judge series. Have you
ever watched it?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
You gotta, I gotta find that on YouTube. Tales from
the Tour Bus.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I yeah, they're they're like little clips of it on YouTube.
I think you have to get like HBO Max or
something like that. It's worth it. Just go like the
next time they have a free trial. That's what everyone does,
you know, and just do the free trial and just
watch all of them m M. Because it's such an
amazing he gets like basically everyone who's still alive, Like
(05:52):
I think one whole season was like country and Western,
and one whole season was hip hop and anyone who
is still alive to tell the stories of these different people, Yeah,
he gets but then he it's Mike Judge, so he
animates the stories and it's cool. It's so amazing life.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, wow, I love.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Like the Jerry Lee Lewis one alone is worth the
price of admission because like he has one of the
guys that he uh, like, there's a band number that
he had that he shot because they got in an
argument and the guy's still alive and he's like, yeah
he shot man. Blah blah blah. You know, it's so nuts.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Those guys are crazy like that, you know they I remember, Uh,
what's that guy's name. He's a country singer. He's Willy's friend.
I'm just an old lump of cole. Billy Joe Shaver.
Billy Joe Shaver. I know Nor McDonald used to quote
him a lot and listen to him. And there's a
he actually shot a guy ina Waco, Texas. You know, yeah,
(06:56):
and uh, and I remember Willy made a song about
it or helped him ride or something like that, because
I Billy Joe Shaver had a song called I'm a
Wacko from Waco.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, I think I don't know if that guy's in
there or not, but yeah, that sounds really familiar.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Let me look it up real quick. Billy Joe Shaver
Waco shooting. Billy Joe Shaver found not guilty for shooting.
This is after after a three day trial.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Well, good for him, it's good. Oh.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Willy Nelson went to trial.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
He goes, I don't think Billy John would do anything wrong.
Whatever happened, I don't think it was Billy Jell's fault.
Willie Nelson said, yeah, oh wow.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Even Robert Davall was there. Yeah. Oh, here's what the
guy said. Here's what Billy Joe said said. This is
very country. I'm Billy Jo says. I'm very sorry about
the incident. Shaver said outside the courtroom. Hopefully things will
work out where we become friends enough so that he
gives him back my bullet. Damn wow. While the singer
(08:05):
pleaded self defense, claiming Coker stirred his drink with a
pocket blade, wiped it on Shaver's shirt and asked him
to come outside. I felt like he was gonna kill me,
Shaver testified, he was a big bully, the worst I've seen,
a big bad one, and I had been all around
the world. Wow, it's pretty interesting. Damn yeah, Shaver responded
(08:28):
to his Honky Tonk Texas draw. If I was a
chicken shit, I would have left. Yeah. Wow, you mightd
fight curse because there's some cursing in this article.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I'll be okay. I don't know about the listeners.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Shaver stopped into the Smoky Bar for a beer with
his former wife, Wanda. Shaver testified Coker was rude to
Wanda and told Shaver to shut the bleep up. After
the two went outside. Witness testified Shaver asked Coker, where
do you want it? Then I did a twenty two
pistol at Coker's cheek, pulled the trigger trigger, and fled
(09:05):
in his truck. When Shaver was asked on the stand
if he shot Coker because Shaver was jealous the victim
was talking Shaver's wife, Shaver laughed, I get more women
than a passenger train can haul. Oh God, maybe that's
why his ex wife now, yeah, oh yeah, he's got
that great song. Shaver's song Lived Forever was He's prominently
(09:28):
in Crazy Heart and Johnny Cash, Elvis Presley, and Bob
Dylan have recorded his music. Damn, that's hilarious. I'm going
to live forever. That's that song. I don't know if
you know. That's a good one, man.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
But yeah, that's a as the hell of a story.
But you gotta understand, in Texas, people shoot each other
all the time. It's a normal thing. It doesn't mean anything.
You can't tell you personally.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Yeah, they're like, hey, you know your mouth and off
you might you want me to introduce you to my
cord this whole puncher.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I remember my dad telling me about a relative we had,
like an uncle, and he was like, yeah, as your
uncle Lonnie got shot in the lung and I was like,
oh so he died. No, he lived another like forty years.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I know there's people that have testified and said this,
and also he admits it. Hank Junior used to get
so drunk on stage and put on a hell of
a show in the eighties. He would fire off like
a shotgun from the stage. Yeah, I don't know if
it's over the crowd's head. I don't know what that is.
I don't I wouldn't want to be a part of that,
to be honest with.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
You, you know, well you can still die exactly. It's
like they learned that a long time ago, that you know,
if you fire your pistols into the night sky, the
way gravity works is you know, equal and course that
bullet's gonna come down pretty hard.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I saw Hank Junior in an interview once and he said,
he goes, if you saw me in the eighties, you
might have saw me shooting the taking my pistol out
and shooting the monitor. Well, Hank didn't like the way
the monitor sounded clock clock, you know. Can you imagine
if we did that the comedy store or something, just.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Like nice almost like a couple of times he did
the opposite of a country singer, Like the sound system
wasn't working in the o R and he bought them
a new sound system. It's like, I hate this sound system.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Oh that's cool, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, that's man. I like hearing about that. Like Robin Williams,
there was I guess there was danger that the roof
was needed repair or something. And this was like maybe
two years before he passed on. He did like a
whole weekend at the store basically just to pay for it. Oh,
(12:01):
basically just to make sure that they were able to
replace the roof. I love hearing about stuff like that
when comics kind of like give back on places that
they work.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Immortally, especially when they can you know, it's uh yeah,
it's amazing. It's a you know, imagine if the power
you how great that would feel to be like like
Mike Black, you know, homecoming and then you go back home,
do a show. Let me keep the door. You raise
forty thousand for the local elementary school band or or
the you know what I mean, the high school play.
(12:31):
They can get some I don't know, you know, or whatever,
a wing of a hospital, you know's that's one of
my goals is to get to that level where we can.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Do that, you know, I am or like to keep
Hooters open, you know, something to.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Keep something able, to keep keeping open.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Something to really help help out the community. Yeah, you
know about all these young kids that are never going
to get to eat hot wings at Hooters. Yeah, I
saw that they were looking out for them.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
There was this girl that was trending on a recently.
She was a Hooters girl and she was saying how
much she made and on some days it was like
three hundred dollars in tips, and people were rethinking their
own careers. They're like, maybe I should go to Hooters
and be a Hooters girl. Like that's not you know,
especially if it's really busy and you're like, damn, I
mean like fifteen hundred this week.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Well yeah. On the flip side of that, they also,
for a long time they notoriously had the bandana requirement,
meaning if you could not tie a bandana around your waist,
you could not work at Hooters.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Damn, I wonder if I could do that. I don't know,
you know.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
They they had a male Hooters employee, oddly enough, didn't
get tipped as much.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
They're like, eh, you're good, You're good. I wouldn't that suck, Dude,
the one time we go to Hooters we get a
male employee, Yeah, like that would be Can we let's
just go to Buffalo Wild Wings?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
We uh, yeah, you may as well. At that point,
although like I really did. This sounds like I'm saying
I read Playboy for the articles, but I really will
say I did like the wings at Hooters. They were very,
very good wings.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You know, did you know my buddy Tuggy Toogi Jackson.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
That name sounds real, real familiar, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
The great guy. Awesome said to him. A really really
funny comedian. He was a for years. He was a
chef at Hooters. He always last and I called him
a chef. He was, But I knew him when he
I met him in La Joya down at the comedy store.
And it's just a funny guy. I'd always come to
the comedy shows and everybody would encourage him to be
a comedian, and he finally did it. And I mean
he used to work at like seafood restaurants and stuff.
(14:41):
And here's how much of a fan he was. He would, uh,
he knew who Mitsy Shore was and he wasn't even
a comedian. And so when Mitsy would come in, he'd
always like hook her up with extra stuff, and you know,
and he got into the Hooters world. And then then
then they got him to, uh, you know, open up
other restaurants or like, hey, we have a new one
in Seattle. Like they fly him up there to kind
of help train everybody. But he was a comedian. He
(15:02):
didn't really you know, the Hooters was just to pay
the bills. And then you know, he got a lot
of side projects from that, like because he was such
a such a likable fun I'm I'm talking about like
he was he still is, but he just doesn't live
in l a likable fun guy. Like we went to
a Toby Keith concert, No, we went to a taping
at Jimmy Kimmel Show. And uh so you got to
imagine this this big brother black dude with dreads but
(15:26):
with a cowboy hat. And when when Toby walked by,
everyone's waving and stuff, and then Toby and then Tugi's
like Toby and Toby stopped what he was doing over
and like shook his hand like Toby. I'm mixing the
names up Toby and Togi, but Tugi was just like
everybody loved Togi.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Man and and Toby liked took exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Was just a cool dude, like he had the hook
up on everything. And and yet for a while he
was working at the he worked at Santa Monica Hooters,
Pastadena Hooters, and then he worked at the Hollywood Hooters
or at Hollywood and Highland, and you know all the
different celebs that would pop in, you know, they knew
him from comedy, they knew him just he's just a
gregarious guy. I think that's the right word. Very friendly,
gregarious guy. And yeah, he's what he was got. We
(16:09):
got hooked up with like you know, hockey tickets and this,
that to this premiere and this and that and and
where am I going with this story? Oh yeah? So
he uh he it's like a hap, It's like a
Cinderella story. Man. He he uh started dating a Hooters
girl and that, which is kind of funny because he
(16:30):
wasn't really a big fan of the Hooters girls. Because
he got to really know him and he was like, man,
like you know, like you know, at the different stores,
like like sure they look good, and but he said
that you know, guys were constantly bringing them teddy bears
and this and that and gifts and and he kind
of saw the the you know, it's like behind the
scenes that maybe a strip club or something, you know,
(16:51):
like right, you're killing you guys, are you know? But anyway, so,
but but there were definitely some good Hooters girls, like
I remember one, uh yeah, I remember this.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
The Heart of Gold.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
The Heart of Gold. Yeah, this girl, I forget her name,
but I remember she She got out of Hooters and
became went to the police academy, became a cop. She
actually moved to Fresno, and I remember I went, I
did a show and she brought her son, and the
had like it was cool. I remember her because she
was a cool person. It was who wasn't just like
I am sexually. She was like actually, like, you know,
like cool, and she had a redheaded son. So I
(17:26):
was like, oh, it's so cool. I was a red
headed kid once, you know. Yes, So my point is, yeah,
he ended up being the cooked Hooters. He dated the
Hooters waitress. They fell in love, they got married, and
now I believe they have three beautiful children. They have
three kids, and they live in Pennsylvania and he's out there,
and yeah, there was a little Hooters Hooters history there. Tugi,
(17:49):
if you're listening, we love you. Come back to La.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
At least to I know.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
It was funny. He said that people call him all
the time and they never never, no one ever got
his name right. High is Turkey. There is cookie there, No,
it's Tugi t o O g A too GHI too Gi.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
But well, I'm sure he made wings for me at
some point, whether I knew it or not, because I
would go. I used to do a show out in
Santa Monica in a bowling alley with Craig Coleman and
Sally Mullins and a few other people throughout time. But
it was a block over was Hooters, and it was
(18:32):
the only thing open when we were done, so all
the comics would go to Hooters afterwards and they would
They treated us great. They were really nice. It was
a lot of fun. And one time the comedian Andrew Solmsen,
big guy, big into tech support, like really computer nerdy
(18:52):
sort of guy, and you know, I wanted to in
bite everyone and it didn't seem like his cup of tea,
but I thought, what the hell it's in And I
was like, Andrew, you want to come with us to Hooters?
And he was like, I've never been to a Hooters.
I would like to do a blog about that. Okay, sure,
you know whatever, come and have fun with the rest
(19:15):
of us. And so we start having wings and everything,
and he's having the just the time of his life.
He's never been to anything like this. And then you know,
I didn't think we had a shot with any of
the girls or anything like that, or even like the
single girls that were there. But you know, you still
(19:39):
want to look somewhat cool.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Halfway through eating, I'm not kidding, he whipped out what
I thought was his wallet and I thought, oh, he's
going to offer to pay in that suite. And he
starts unfolding it and keeps unfolding it, and the next
thing you know, he's got a computer right there at
the table that he it is unfolded and he starts
(20:03):
clacking away, typing this is me. And I was like, Andrew,
what are you doing? And he goes, I'm blogging about Hooters.
Like I said, I was like, you do that ship
at home? Put that away, right, we already look nerdy enough.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Just don't I'm blogging my experience.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I was like, this is not the time.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
That's hilarious because the first I thought, you said vlogging
like with filming it, which would be kind of weird too.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, you know, is writing a blog about it?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah, that's even more. Let me put on my writer's hat.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
But he's a really funny comic and a really sweetheart
of a guy. But I just that was the one
time that I kind of came down on him.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
That's funny. Whenever I would go whenever I would, you know,
when took he would say like, hey, swing by this one,
like whenever you know, San Diego or whatever. I'd walk
into the place with him. I always like to experience
more because people would they would just be themselves, you know,
like just regular people. Yeah. The one time I went
to Hooters without him, and it was in Sacramento and
a buddy of mine wanted to go, and I was touring.
(21:05):
I was at one comedy club. He was at another
comedy club, and he lives in Indianapolis, and he goes, man,
let's meet at Hooters.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Man.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
He goes, I got my I got, I got my passport,
and I need to go there and get my my
my Hooters passport stamped, you know, because I guess he
goes to different Hooters around the country. And I was like, okay,
so I remember we went to Hooters and but there
was just a bunch of alarms going off outside. Hopefully
you guys can't hear that, but.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I can't hear it.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
So we went to Hooters and it was a totally
different experience than what I was used to because usually
you go there and they're just regular and they're being nice,
and when you like a burger, Do you want fries?
You know, how's your day going? Just a normal experience.
This was more like, oh, there's four guys. We were
all the comics, and it was all the headliners and
the features, and the waitress was you know, came over
and really turned on the whole charm of you know,
(21:51):
with the little bubbly voice like, hi, guys, how's everything going?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
And yeah, dude.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
It was annoying as hell. I swear to got because
maybe because I wanted to catch up with my friend,
and she kept popping around like never mind me. And
remember she turned the barstool upside down and sat on
it and kind of straddled it and started rocking like
she was riding a bull or something, and she's like,
I've got a competition coming up this weekend. Never mind me,
(22:18):
I'm just gonna practice. You guys.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Jesus.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
It was like, leave us alone already. And then my
buddy wanted ranch dressing, and then she I didn't realize
that they up charged, so everything was like two fifty here,
two fifty there, dollars seventy five if you want this dollar,
and it was man, I was like, I do not.
This was not it wasn't fun. I was like, I
don't really like this. And then I remember that night
(22:42):
I went to Denny's after the show and the waitress
was probably twice her age and probably twice as heavy,
and uh, but I really enjoyed the experience a much
more because I think she was like a lot more genuine.
And at one point I had that like a sore
throat or something, and she honey, I got some lozenges,
would you lack one? And she gave me a loss
(23:03):
and it was just like, man, like this, I prefer
Denny's in the Hooters things I don't.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, that's that's when you realize you've matured a little bit.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah you're yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Let's talk about something. I do not want to do
a whole Hooters episode.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Exactly why exactly? Oh I got one for you. Can
I tell you this thing real quick. When you said
Robie Williams raised some money to put a new roof
on the on I almost said a new I almost
said Robbie Williams raised money to put a new roof
on Hooters. But yeah, on the comedy Store and they
(23:40):
h Dude, this rain is insane. Man, this is like
what we needed, but it just like didn't stop it.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I'm sick. If I hear one more person tell me
we need this rain, I'm gonna punch him right in
them mouth because we don't need it. A few farmers
need it, right, it's the rest of us. I don't
care about having a lot of rain. I don't want it.
I don't give it. Give my portion of rain to
(24:08):
the mart.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I'm like, you know what, let's let's do if you.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
And we don't, we don't get it anyway. It all
gets sold to Pepsi or does some other company anyhow.
So it's like, no matter how much we need it,
we still need it.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Right, yeah right, I think like Nestle or something. But
I know, uh yeah, here's here's how selfish i'm when
it comes to rain. I'm like, yeah, why couldn't it
rain like after hours, like you know, like like maybe
from like two am to like new.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Got to ruin the whole day every day for like
two weeks now.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I know, And I think we've had like this light
rain where you could still go out and do something
like you just you know, you park, you go to
the front door of a store. It doesn't really bug you.
This is like downpours of thunder and lightning. And here's
where it really hit home. Dude, we got uh we
got a leak in our living room. I don't know.
Did you did your place? Hold up?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
My place did?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, dude, we got this leak and it wasn't terrible,
but it was you know. We come back from the
farm and my son goes to place piano and all
the keys were like like making weird noises, and we're like,
what's going on? And we thought, well, maybe it's too
close to the window, like condensation, you know. So then
we bought a cover for the piano and luckily it's
(25:26):
covered over warranty and they'll they'll either replace or fix it.
But they uh so, the I noticed a little puddle
of water, like a very small like a tablespoon of
water was on the cover, and I told my wife,
I go, wow, this cover is good. It works. There's
there's water, and then she's like and then we both
look up and we discovered there's like dripping. It's like
(25:48):
drip drip. It wasn't condensation, it was an actual drip
and we're like, oh oh yeah. So then we had
the guy go on the roof, and then and then
they were telling us to like drill a hole and
and my wife looked it up and then said, yeah,
I take a screwdriver in poke hol. That way, at
least the water has some way to escape, it doesn't
spread out, and like your whole ceiling comes down, and yeah,
(26:10):
and then last night, get this. So my wife goes
to bed, my son goes to bed. So finally there's
no noise in the house, right, the TV's are off,
the computers are off. I take my headphones out and
I hear what I thought. I couldn't tell if it
was a completely different drip or if it was a
really loud clock, because I heard this really loud I heard,
(26:33):
and I'm like, damn, that clock sounds louder than normal.
And I'm like, uh oh, And I walk over and
I investigate, and sure enough, there was another spot that
the the roof was like the ceiling was leaking, but
that one we think was easy to fix. That might
have been like like an air conditioning or a heater
vent type of thing that might have been clogged or something.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
But yeah, you gotta get on anything water related. You
kind of got to yet, on it right away because
you don't want mold and all that stuff, you know.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah, I mean we've been using the blow dryer on
hot and stuff, trying to drive out and all that
good stuff. But uh yeah, and the roofers are coming
over to fix it, so hopefully, uh hopefully they'll do
their thing. I took my How about you, did you
have to drive anywhere in the rain.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah, a couple of times, but it really wasn't that
bad for me. There are a lot of people in
California that do not know how to drive in the rain,
and that's what makes it dangerous is the rain itself
is not so bad. It's the people freaking out about
the rain. Oh you know, dude.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
New Year's Eve, I had to drive from you know,
like the Burbank North Hollywood area over to Ventura and
on the freeway and that was like insane, man, it
was I'm going forty I don't want to go too fast.
But even on the freeway on the one on one, which,
by the by the way, this like they shut it
down last night. That's how flooded. The really the freeway
(28:03):
got flooded, like they shut it down both directions. So yeah,
there's definitely there was a couple of spots. As you're
on the freeway, you're seeing the car ahead you go
and water splashes up to the left and to the right,
like the water was pooling on a freeway, which normally
you wouldn't see that. You see you might see it
on a little back road or something. But I was like,
(28:24):
this is insane. So on New Year's Eve, I had
to drive in that kind of r and there's this
one part where you go downhill, like up by Cama Rillo,
and uh, you're looking at the guard rails and then
there's a point where there's no guard rail and the
way the rain starts going sideways and then there's diesels
all around you and water splashing from the northbound traffic.
(28:44):
But I'm on the slow lane. It's like, I was like,
I'm sorry, I'm gonna go slow. I'm not gonna you know,
you guys can go around. At one point I put
my hazard's light hazard lights on. It was going about
thirty five forty in the slow lane, and yeah, I'm
just like, it ain't worth it just to speed and
spin out. I've seen that before. It's it's it's ugly
when you see someone spin out.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, well you probably don't want to be on the
Preway at thirty or forty miles an hour, but yeah,
but yeah, in general, that's that is.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Oh yeah, well when I say thirty, because there's cars
that were going like fifty five, you know, they feel invincible.
I'm like, yeah, you got no, no, don't do that.
And then but I'll tell you one way that I
do feel a little invincible when it comes to the
rain is, uh I have I bought a raincoat a
few years ago. Like I never had a raincoat. Like
I have coats that would be water resistant and you
(29:36):
can be out, but they get wet. I got this
raincoat and uh, man, between the raincoat and an umbrella,
and then I went to Walmart and got some rubber boots. Man,
You're like, bring it on.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
And and it's always the thing that like once you
get all that sort of gear, that's when the rain
clears up, exactly, you know, once you have the full
suit of farmers.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yeah, I know. Like, knowing that the rain was coming,
I was like, I'm gonna go to like, you know,
running Canyon of Griffith Park. I'm gonna go out there.
But then when it was raining like cats and dogs.
I was like, I ain't gonna walk around and no
rain like that. That's just insane.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
No, that's crazy. You get struck by light.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Yeah, Like if it's a drizzle, I'm like, you know,
and if it's you know, you know what I mean,
like a drizzled and it's gone in thirty minutes, that
I could deal with, but not a real downport. We
ended up walking at the mall yesterday because I like
to stay active and get you know a little exercise.
So I took my son to the mall. We did
our exercise there, but I just dressed normal. I didn't
wear all the rain gear.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah. Yeah, you don't want to wear it in the mall.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Yeah, it's like clon.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
But yeah, what I've been doing is I'll go to
Frankenson's and just walk around and there and just you know,
do any shopping I want to do, but then just
kind of walk around the perimeter to get my steps
and stuff. You know.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
That's Frankinson's, that's the one you were telling me. It's
out in near Pomona.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I think, yeah, yeah, and that or I'll just go
to the mall, you know, and just do the same
sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Do you have a Do you have a couple of
different malls you're like going to.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Oh yeah. The problem is a lot of them are
outdoor sort of places, like Third Street Promenade or like
Century City. Uh, they're they're good malls, but they're outdoorsy malls,
and like Century City, the floor is like marble tile,
(31:41):
like smooth marble tile. I think gets wet. You're just screwed,
you know.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yeah, yeah, it's Uh, it was really fun hanging with
my son at the mall and even just seeing his
face light up when I suggested I go, hey, later,
I'm gonna go to the mall to get a little exercise.
You want to go with me? It's like yeah, you know,
because it goes your homework done. I mean, can we go?
It remind me of like growing up in the eighties,
like you know, you'd meet your buddies. That was a
big thing, the to go to a mall, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
And yeah, I'm very much of that generation where like
going to the mall was a big deal and it
was the big social thing. You didn't have like social
networks and stuff, so that was the best way to
meet people with similar interests with Like if you liked
video games, you literally went to the arcade to play
(32:30):
video games with other people. You know.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah, you had like the like you said they had
the outdoor I think the outdoor outdoor mall probably came first, right,
like those shopping plazas.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
But then like strip malls.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah yeah, but then when you got the indoor mall,
that was like.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Yeah, that was people. I think if you grew up
after the eighties, it's just not quite the same, you know,
like your experience with it isn't quite as enchanting, I guess,
you know, right, Like like we grew up in the
time where like department stores had coffee shops in them.
(33:10):
Oh yeah, remember.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
That, Like do they still have that, Like Nordstroms doesn't
they have Like don't they have like a coffee bar.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Now they'll have like the modified version of it. They'll
have like a Starbucks or something.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Oh, I see what you're saying, like a like a
Newberries or like a Woolworth's or something.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Yeah. Like back then though, you could have like it
was like having a Denny's inside of a store. You know,
they would have like counters where you could sit and
have breakfast. Or lunch or whatever, you know. Yeah, and
then you could shop and it was like back when
they did the whole Santa's Village at Christmas time where
(33:45):
it was like this huge, sprawling display, you know. And uh,
places like that always smelled like popcorn because they would
sell like popcorn at the they would have like old
snack area.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
You know.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
It was just a totally different experience than shopping is now.
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, when I was growing up, there was we had
two malls, and there was the Manchester Mall and the
Fashion Fair. Which one do you think was better?
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Manchester Mall sounds like it was better.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
See that might have been better like in the early years,
but I believe, but when I was growing up, fashion
Fair was the good one. Like that was like the
good mall. And now if you go by Manchester Center,
it's a I think they've converted into like adult schools
or something like adult education. Oh wow, Yeah, it's weird.
Growing up, it was like got Chalks and these different
(34:42):
department stores.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Our malls in Aurora, Colorado were all very lofty titles,
like well there was Aurora Mall. It's pretty normal. But
we had the Buckingham Palace Mall, we had Cinderella City,
which was two levels and the low were level of
Cinderella City was done to look like an English like
(35:05):
a British street, where it had like cobblestone and gas
lamps and stuff like that. And there was a place
in there called Nathan's Physical Whimsical and then they changed
the name to Fantastic and place for kids that had
(35:27):
what they boasted was the world's largest teddy bear, which
was sixty feet tall I believe, or it maybe thirty,
but it was huge to a kid, it seemed like
sixty feet and kids would always try and climate and
get hurt. And it had like a cave that you
(35:48):
could run around in. There was a room where they
had like glow in the dark panels and a black
light that would turn on and off, and you what
you would do is you'd run up to the panel
and make some sort of weird pose. Then the black
light would go off and you'd get away from it
and you would see your silhouette on the wall.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
So there was all sorts of weird cool shit, and
they had this kind of like air ducks but for
kids to play in that had like tunnels.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Oh, kind of like that movie die Hard.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Yeah, it was very similar to Diehard. You would crawl
around in these tunnels like forty feet off the ground
and and but they had like portals where you could
see below you and stuff like that. It was crazy wow.
And they had a ball pit.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
So I'm reading this. It says the first retail complex
to be promoted as a mall was in Paramus, New
Jersey's Bergen Mall Paramus There you Go. The center, which
opened with an open air format in nineteen fifty seven,
was enclosed in nineteen seventy three, and then that kicked
it off. It said in closed shopping centers spread across
(37:01):
the US at a rapid rate. By nineteen sixty, just
four years after Gruin's first there was there were four
four thousand, five hundred malls in North America, and by
nineteen seventy five there were sixteen four hundred shopping malls
in existence.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Okay, aside from the major stores like your Sears or J. C.
Pennies and all like that, what were some stores that
you like, you've toured around the world. We've both been
to one thousand malls easily. What are some of the
stores that you think it's not a mall. If they
don't have this place, I'll give you my first one. Okay,
(37:43):
that I would say, this is like number one if
your food court didn't have an Orange Julius. Yeah, it's
not a mall, right, you know.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Yeah you said I couldn't say department stores. But I'm sorry,
But if I always think Macy's for some reason, if
it has Macy's, I'm like, it's a really good it's
a it's a good mall.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
It's a mall. It's a mall. It's a it's a
real real mall.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
It's not like just a bunch of stories you never
heard of that are on their way out, you know,
like yeah, close out sale. You're like, and you know what, man,
I don't know what's going on with Macy's. But I
went to this one part of Macy's and I was like,
I told my son, do you think this stuff is
good or crap? Because it looked like a bunch of junk,
like you're it almost looked like you were in like
a what's it called Burlington coat factory or like a
(38:29):
ross right, like that kind of vibe, and and and
it looked kind of didn't look like a Macy's. It
looked kind of bad, but it was this one section
of Macy's and I looked up as we were leaving
that section, and and that section is called Macy's backstage.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I've been to Macy's backstage. Yeah, it's awful.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
You know what I'm saying. You're like, what the.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
It's all their clearance stuff just mush yeah, hushed together.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
It's like, you know, some lame Father's Day type gifts,
you know, and all that kind of stuff. You're like,
this is not Macy's. But yeah, man, they When we
walked around the mall yesterday, I noticed that Sears is gone,
bed Bath and Beyond is on its way out the door.
There's a few other places that you're like, what the
heck like, and yeah, you know, maybe because it was
a rainy day and we went on every single floor
(39:15):
we could find, the mall got really kind of boring
after about an hour, like like, wow, we keep there's
a lot of clothes thing. I mean, it's still open
enough to like there was some fun stuff in there,
but it got you know.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
But yeah, it's not quite It's nowhere near what it
used to be.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
There's no record stores, there's no bookstores. I used to
love the record stores was a great draw to the mall,
you know or bookstore.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Well yeah, yeah, like the Suncoast video that that used
to be fun, uh Sam Goody yep, you know they
used to have those Tower records. Yeah, tower records.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
What was the The restaurant in the mall wasn't a restaurant,
It was first cafeteria. Oh yeah, that was That meant
you were at a real mall. But that was like
for old people, but for kids. There was do you
remember around the corner?
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Mmm? No, I don't think we had that.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Round the corner was a burger place. But you had
a phone at each table. Oh cool, and you would
literally phone your order in.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Like they didn't want they didn't have waiters, and you
didn't go to the counter. They were like, no, sit
at the table and call us when you're ready to order.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
I saw something on Happy Days once which I thought,
you know, when you're a kid, you're like, that's the
TV is your window to what you think the adult
world will be like. And remember there was an episode
where they were at a diner like Mells or something,
and each table would have a phone and a phone
number and you could call like other tables and call
girls and be like, hey, we're table thirteen. How you
you know? But I never saw that in real life though.
(40:53):
I don't know if that was just a TV thing
or what.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
I think they had that at some places, but not Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Well, nobody was ringing my phone ever. My phone was
just not ringing.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yeah, that would suck. If you had been in a
place like that, your whole life didn't know it. You
were so not popular.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
I know that sounds like that kid off of what's
his name? Off the Simpsons, the guy that always has
his fingers known friends. Yeah, like, can you call my number?
I gave this girl my number and I don't think.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
My fav for me.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Yeah, yeah, it says. During the nineteen eighties, malls were thriving,
with large anchor stores attracting droves of shoppers year round.
Record stores were a mall mainstay during the eighties, the
food court became the place to refuel and hang out
with your friends in the eighties. Yep, here's all these
(41:52):
different questions. What was the golden age of malls? When
did mall start dying? All right, let's click that. When
when did mall start dying. Uh, oh, do you have
any guests? Guests? Do you have any guests? Do you
have a guest? On when mall started dying? Hello? Are
(42:16):
you still there?
Speaker 1 (42:18):
I would say ninety five?
Speaker 3 (42:20):
So according to this, yeah, that's that's it, says the
massive change, When did mall start? The massive change led
Newsweek to declare indoor mall format obsolete in two thousand
and eight. The year two thousand and seven marked the
first time since the nineteen fifties that no new malls
were being built in the US. Wow, I wonder what.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Eight seems a lot later than I expected.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
You know, it's no secret that online malls is becoming
increasingly popular, So people are just shopping online from the
comfort of their home, and such a wide range of
products available. But I still I still like to do
certain things, like you know what I mean, I do
like like the walking that they're walking inside. I like
(43:09):
being around, like being stimulated, you know, when I'm on
the road. I remember I used to love like during
the day, like I'm gonna walk around the mall because
sometimes you'll just see like like some kind of catchphrase
on a shirt and that may trigger an idea for
a joke. Or you may see, like I don't know,
there's something about all that stimulus that for me would like, yeah,
get something going. You know.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
A lot of it too, wasn't just like what you
were into, but seeing what other people were into and
like people watching and seeing like groups go into certain places,
you know, like all the goth kids go on a
hot topic, or all the nervy kids going to the shop,
and you know, it was like it was just interesting
to be aware of what other people were doing, you know,
(43:53):
all the stoner kids going to the record shop and stuff, you.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Know, right, you know. I remember I had this great
joke for a while, and it was because I was
in a mall and I saw Harley Davidson neck pillow.
There was like this Harley Davidson store, and when I
saw the neck pillow, that just triggered this idea of
like who would get that? And then I came up
with this great bit where I never would have if
I didn't go to the mall, you know what I mean,
because the idea that I was like, who has that?
(44:18):
At that? Maybe it's some guy who's like.
Speaker 5 (44:20):
Yeah, my wife she won't let me have a Harley.
But I get all the assissories. I got my Heart
Davidson belt buckle, my Harley Davidson motorcycle boots, and my
Harley Davidson Hypo wather Jennic double Deluxe All American Featherfield
neck pillow.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
I'll tell you who would have a Harley david pillow.
Speaker 6 (44:40):
Yeah, I'm Tahoe Joe with Harley Davidson neck pillows. Come
on down, put the code word party starter and you
get your Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
When he wasn't busy riding with the Hell's Angels, he
beats them.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Downtime, Yeah, some goose down time. Get it, folks, That's
hilarious downtime. Because I was like, it's funny. I did
ask my dad that once. I said, hey, because I
was performing in Lake Tahoe, and I said, hey, when
you guys would go to Lake Tahoe and your biker runs,
what hotel did you stay at? And he goes hotel
(45:16):
we would just bed down on the ground. Was about
the campfire. I was like, oh, yeah, that makes more sense,
Like you know, I remember he doesn't. Yeah, whenever I
was trying to the rest of it, Yeah, I'd ask
him stuff about Harley's and this and that, and he
was I guess, he goes, when we were doing it
was really outlaw back then, like in the sixties, and
he's like, now they got the Harley Davison watches and museums,
(45:39):
and you know, he just was like he said, it's
just a different animal than I guess back in the day.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Yeah. Yeah, it's like I think it's kind of like
anything else. It's you find a thing that you're passionate about,
right that you love, and you tell other people about it,
and you'd get them to love it too. Next thing,
you know, those people have told all their friends about
(46:05):
it and so on and so on, and it becomes mainstream,
and then the people that have any money to be
made and that thing are now marketing to those people
instead of you, And the next thing, you know, you're
kind of on the outside of this thing that you love.
For me, that happened with comic Con where I was,
(46:28):
I loved going to Comic Con, and it was when
I started going, it was really just me and you know,
a couple thousand other people that were into it, you know,
and then like Twilight and Iron Man hit around the
same time, and it just got monstrous after that and
(46:49):
just became too big to contain to the point where
most of those people that were coming up when I
was going to it would have a very very difficult
time getting in now, you know, like they'd be hard
pressed to be able to get tickets to go anymore,
you know, right, But it's the same with like the
(47:11):
super Bowl or Fashion Week or WrestleMania. Anything that gets
it just hits a certain level in the mainstream. Like
one day you're Bumpkin Activities. People might decide, oh, I
want to kick shit and smell a pig or whatever.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
I want to punch tires and yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
That sort of and all it takes is a couple
of celebrities tweeting about it. The next thing, you know,
you can't get into the Bumpkin Activities.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
You know, it's so funny that happens. It's like how
something just takes on. I remember when I had my
album out in twenty sixteen called The Party Continues, and
I got this bright idea to have stickers, and on
the sticker I'd put a QR code. At that time,
not a lot of people knew what QR codes were,
and it almost looked like I was just handing them
(47:58):
an advertisement, and they just didn't weren't interested in it.
And I remember I was talking to Dean del Ray
about that and he goes Man, He's like, yeah, it
looks like something. He goes jay z or somebody needs
to make something happen to where everybody knows what a
QR code is. Yeah, and uh. And then what happened
was the you know, twenty twenty hit and they went
to like touchless menus, and now everybody knows what the
(48:20):
QR code is, right.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
Yeah, It's like and now I know what it is.
I still am not wild about them, but I know
what they.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Are right exactly exactly. I'm not like, you know, it's
like that.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
I think that it's technology. They have to find that
threshold between uh, innovative and annoying. Yeah, you know, it's
it's a tough balance to figure out because like most
of the QR codes that I've ever scanned were just advertising,
you know, or just like something that, uh, you could
(48:58):
have done otherwise, you know, like just just scan our
QR code for the menu. The time you took to
print that up put on the table, you could have
just printed up a menu.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
Yes, if if I have that option of you know,
I'm like, no, just please just hand me a menu.
I don't need to scan the restaurants something to read.
Type in my email and so that I.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Can scan it to see something to read. Right, you know,
it's like when it's it's the redundancy that that I
don't care for.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
You know. Oh, here's what I want to say. There
was there's a country singer I really like pumpkin activity.
So we go another bump. His name is Tom T. Hall.
He's known as the Great Storyteller. Okay, I don't know
if you've ever heard any music by Timer.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
I couldn't tell you a song.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
One of his biggest hits. I'm sure your mom would know.
It's it's called I Love and it's the one that
went like you might know it went. It goes like,
uh love little baby ducks, old pickup trucks.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
I didn't realize that was him, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
He's great man. Okay. So one of the songs and
he wrote this at the height of the Malls. The
song was written in nineteen eighty six, and the song
is called Down at the Mall and it really you
know what I mean, It's like he just kind of
sums up what he saw to them all in nineteen
eighty six, and Harl'll read some of the lyrics. Mama
(50:24):
can't find a babysitter, so she drags the kids along.
There's a salesman with a quota to meet today or
he'll be gone. There's a mooney selling roses to a
baptist in the hall. You can see it all down
at the mall. There's a whino begging quarters, trying to
drown the past. A three year old at the pet
store with her nose against the glass. There's an old
(50:47):
man on a pension with his back against the wall.
You can see them all down at the mall. It's America.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
I don't think you can see a line, oh, begging
for change inside of them all.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
Maybe outside, yeah, yeah, well maybe yeah, you're right here,
yeah yeah, yeah. You don't really see that in the mall.
You see outside the mall.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
But that's kind of the whole point of the ball
is to not have.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
To do exactly, to kind of get away from those winos.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Uh, it's a I love this line. It's America in motion.
It's a portrait of the times where blue light special
heroes and a land where freedom shines. There's yuppies, guppies, puppies,
and a sale on basketball. You can find them all
down at the mall. Young couple stare at a wedding
ring they know they can't afford. There's an Asian refugee
(51:36):
with the big old ice cream store. A policeman buying
candy for a little child who's lost. You can see
it all down at the mall. There's a grandma shop
in early. I know, I can just hear you going bullshit,
none of this happened.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Yeah, I just there's a lot of it that.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
It's like, I don't really there's cops for people. This
is yeah, this is nineteen eighty six, so maybe back then,
cups are by ice cream for okay, there's a petal
buying ice cream. Yeah, no, here we go. There's a
grandma shopping early. There's there's a grandma shopping early there.
She's digging through the toys. Young girls at the record
(52:16):
store they're making eyes at boys. There's a weekend daddy
with the hardest, biggest Santa Claus. You can see them
all down at the mall. Oh, there's a weekend daddy
with the hardest Oh, I gotcha. He only gets the
boat the kids on the weekends because they're divorced. Yeah, eighties,
it's American motion. It's a portrait of the times. Blah
blah blah blah blah. I thought that was I love
(52:37):
that song. It's when I hear it, I'm like, oh,
it's so cool. It just pictures that that people watching
vibe you know.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
Yeah, Okay, Now, who was the biggest draw musical act
in the mall in the eighties.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
I'm gonna say we're doing Ninkovic.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
My guess would be two different.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
Yeah, it was Tiffany. Tiffany, Right, you're right, that girl.
She did a mall tour.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
It was a brilliant idea. It was made it the
smartest idea in the world.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
Oh my gosh, you're right, the the little red girl. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
Just the fact that we both know her name. I
this many years later.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
I'm gonna look up Tiffany mall tour. Yeah, Tiffany Maltour
nineteen eighty seven. Yeah, she began at June twenty third,
nineteen eighty seven, fifteen year old. Fifteen years old Tiffany
starts her mall tour. Wow. Oh, there's a picture of
her with the little red hair.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
Crazy. Yeah, I thought for sure you would know.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
Yeah, I was kidding. I was trying to be funny
with the weird al thing. I couldn't think of a
funnier thing.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
But yeah, weird all actually like that. That's not a
bad guess, like for that time period, right, if he
had played Malls, he would have he would assault the
fuck out of Tiffany.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
Yeah. Nineteen eighty seven, fifteen years old. I think we're
alone now. That was like our big hit. But yeah, well, Mike,
I got to get ready for a show. I got
to hop out there. Thank god the rain has rolled away.
Speaker 1 (54:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (54:13):
Thanks for taking a part of your day in joining
the Pocket Party podcast. And you guys check out Mike.
He's on Instagram and he's always posting fun stuff.
Speaker 1 (54:21):
Yeah, and I'll be announcing my model tours shortly. Yeah,
I know.
Speaker 3 (54:28):
That's awesome. Man. Hey, guys, thanks again for checking out
the Pocket Party podcast and Mike. Let's let's regroup and
do another one soon.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
Yeah, and remember to fall into the gap.
Speaker 3 (54:37):
Oh yeah, baby, I'll see you later.
Speaker 1 (54:41):
There.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
You got it, man, All right, bye, look at you.
You made it all the way through. By the way,
if you guys want to donate to the show and
help it move along. Go to Darrencarter dot com. Hit
that PayPal button. Also, I'm on Venmo and I'm on
the cash app. All the links are below, so check
out the links. And if you want to do something
just doesn't cost you a time, give it five stars
(55:03):
on Apple and give it a little review. And if
you really want to do something, it takes almost zero effort,
share the link and all your socials share the link.
Say hey, I like this podcast. It's good. And other
than that, you guys have a great day and we
will talk soon. Don't hurt nobody. Be careful. Get your
push ups in, man, I've been doing my push ups.
(55:24):
Even if it rains, I still get the push ups
and the sit ups in. And I'll tell you it
makes you feel good. All right, y'all have a great day.
Speaker 7 (55:31):
Everybody. Listen to Darren Carter. We all know he's the
party starter. So if you want to listen to a
podcast for free, and listen to the Pocket Party
Hello, Dan Carter.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hello, It is good to talk to you because I
have admired your career for some time.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Oh thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
From beyond the grave.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
When I represented Elvis, I thought, now I need a
new talent, and I saw you with your flashlights a
wonderful thing, and now I will represent you from beyond
the gray.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
If this is the most exciting news I've ever had,
I can't wait to tell my wife and everyone else
that Colonel Tom Parker is going to be representing.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Me and the party star merchandise, party Starter. I haven't
made party Starter, toaster oven, anything in the kitchen. Party
starting is going to happen. We're gonna have stickers that
say I love Darren Carter, stickers say I hate Dan Catter.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
We're not going to be pushing a lot of volume,
I don't think, but maybe with your help things will change.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Well, you'd be surprised people are already asking just from
hearing about them people.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
I've gotten three hundred emails. Where do I get my
eye hate Darren Carter's.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Oh geez, We're back, everybody. Another episode of the Pocket
Party podcast. If you are in the San Francisco Bay
area February seventh. I will be at the throck Morton
Theater in Mill Valley, Mill Valley, throck Morton Theater February seventh.
I hope to see you, and it'll be great to
see my Bay Area fans again. And here on the
(01:19):
line we have mister Mike Black.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Hello, Dan Cartera.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Hello twenty twenty three. How are you, my friend?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It is good to talk to you because I have
admired your career for some time.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Oh, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
From beyond the grave.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
When I represented Elvis, I thought, now I need a
new talent, and I saw you with your flashlights a
wonderful thing, and now I will represent you from beyond
the gray.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
If this is the most exciting news I've ever had,
I can't wait to tell my wife and everyone else
at Colonel Tom Parker or it's gonna be representing me.
He's gonna That's okay, man, I figure you know, I
know you get fifty percent? You get Do you still
work with that scale?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
It's a sliding scale. You get.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I get seventy five percent and all the fat off
of your bacon morning.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
That's cool. I'm into that, But what about the seventy
five percent? I mean it's it's I mean, I'm gonna
be honest. I'm not making Elvis Presley money right now.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Look, you have enough to feed your wife and child
and the rest goes to promotion. Oh, I make the
party starter merchandise. Party Starter. Ivn't met party startera toaster oven,
anything in the kitchen. Party starting is going to happen.
I'm gonna have stickers that say I love Daron Carter,
(02:45):
stickers say I hate Dan Carter.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
What if I gotta be honest with you. What if
the I hate Darren Carter sells more than I love
Darren Carter.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I make money either way. It's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
You mean we we make money.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I make lots of money. Yes, I will make all
the money.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I mean, I know I hate to keep saying this
Elvis thing, but I mean you might sell two I
hate Darren Carter stickers and one I love ar I
think we're not moving. We're not gonna be pushing a
lot of volume. I don't think. But maybe with their
help things will change.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
We'll go. You'd be surprised people are already asking just
from hearing about them. People. I've gotten three hundred emails.
Where do I get my hate.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Oh geez, wow, they have emails up in heaven. I
didn't know. That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Not in heaven, but they have them where I yes.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Okay, is that where we get all the spam from?
Does it come from down there?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Also, I'm sending all this spoull.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Oh whoa? Well, okay, do you mind? Uh? I got
to click over and see if I can get I
try to call Mike Black. Hold on is something? The
wires must have got crossed somehow.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yes, carry on, my boy, have a good.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Day, Thank you, thank you, bye bye. Hello is Mike
Black there?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah? Man, my phone got hacked.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Oh dude, I hate when that happens.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Hey, Colonel Tom Parker, Oh well.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Hey, if that's that's I'd love to have a conversation
with him, that'd be I love in the movie when
he was like you and I we had the same
we had children or something like that. Right.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
So Tom Hanks is a national trigger. Everyone knows that.
But he was just outstanding in that movie. Yeah, gosh,
I know, what a great performance. I like, you forget
that it's him for you think like, oh, they just
that's just Colonel Tom Parker.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
And I'd heard enough stories about Tom Parker, and I've
seen a few interviews to where I was. I bought
all into it with the accent. I guess people who
had never heard of him were like, what is he
talking weird for? But I'm like, yeah, it's a good idea.
It's a good representation of like, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
They did such a good job on that movie. Like
I don't care whether you like Elvis or hate him.
It's an interesting movie. It's really fascinating and he was
so great in that part. I'd heard all the like
different crazy stories about that guy. Uh, it's if you
really want to hear some great ones, watch that Tales
(05:19):
from the Tour Bus, the Mike Judge series. Have you
ever watched it?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
You gotta, I gotta find that on YouTube. Tales from
the Tour Bus.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
I yeah, they're they're like little clips of it on YouTube.
I think you have to get like HBO Max or
something like that. It's worth it. Just go like the
next time they have a free trial. That's what everyone does,
you know, and just do the free trial and just
watch all of them m M. Because it's such an
amazing he gets like basically everyone who's still alive, Like
(05:52):
I think one whole season was like country and Western,
and one whole season was hip hop and anyone who
is still alive to tell the stories of these different people, Yeah,
he gets but then he it's Mike Judge, so he
animates the stories and it's cool. It's so amazing life.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, wow, I love.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Like the Jerry Lee Lewis one alone is worth the
price of admission because like he has one of the
guys that he uh, like, there's a band number that
he had that he shot because they got in an
argument and the guy's still alive and he's like, yeah
he shot man. Blah blah blah. You know, it's so nuts.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Those guys are crazy like that, you know they I remember, Uh,
what's that guy's name. He's a country singer. He's Willy's friend.
I'm just an old lump of cole. Billy Joe Shaver.
Billy Joe Shaver. I know Nor McDonald used to quote
him a lot and listen to him. And there's a
he actually shot a guy ina Waco, Texas. You know, yeah,
(06:56):
and uh, and I remember Willy made a song about
it or helped him ride or something like that, because
I Billy Joe Shaver had a song called I'm a
Wacko from Waco.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, I think I don't know if that guy's in
there or not, but yeah, that sounds really familiar.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Let me look it up real quick. Billy Joe Shaver
Waco shooting. Billy Joe Shaver found not guilty for shooting.
This is after after a three day trial.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Well, good for him, it's good. Oh.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Willy Nelson went to trial.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
He goes, I don't think Billy John would do anything wrong.
Whatever happened, I don't think it was Billy Jell's fault.
Willie Nelson said, yeah, oh wow.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Even Robert Davall was there. Yeah. Oh, here's what the
guy said. Here's what Billy Joe said said. This is
very country. I'm Billy Jo says. I'm very sorry about
the incident. Shaver said outside the courtroom. Hopefully things will
work out where we become friends enough so that he
gives him back my bullet. Damn wow. While the singer
(08:05):
pleaded self defense, claiming Coker stirred his drink with a
pocket blade, wiped it on Shaver's shirt and asked him
to come outside. I felt like he was gonna kill me,
Shaver testified, he was a big bully, the worst I've seen,
a big bad one, and I had been all around
the world. Wow, it's pretty interesting. Damn yeah, Shaver responded
(08:28):
to his Honky Tonk Texas draw. If I was a
chicken shit, I would have left. Yeah. Wow, you mightd
fight curse because there's some cursing in this article.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I'll be okay. I don't know about the listeners.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Shaver stopped into the Smoky Bar for a beer with
his former wife, Wanda. Shaver testified Coker was rude to
Wanda and told Shaver to shut the bleep up. After
the two went outside. Witness testified Shaver asked Coker, where
do you want it? Then I did a twenty two
pistol at Coker's cheek, pulled the trigger trigger, and fled
(09:05):
in his truck. When Shaver was asked on the stand
if he shot Coker because Shaver was jealous the victim
was talking Shaver's wife, Shaver laughed, I get more women
than a passenger train can haul. Oh God, maybe that's
why his ex wife now, yeah, oh yeah, he's got
that great song. Shaver's song Lived Forever was He's prominently
(09:28):
in Crazy Heart and Johnny Cash, Elvis Presley, and Bob
Dylan have recorded his music. Damn, that's hilarious. I'm going
to live forever. That's that song. I don't know if
you know. That's a good one, man.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
But yeah, that's a as the hell of a story.
But you gotta understand, in Texas, people shoot each other
all the time. It's a normal thing. It doesn't mean anything.
You can't tell you personally.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Yeah, they're like, hey, you know your mouth and off
you might you want me to introduce you to my
cord this whole puncher.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I remember my dad telling me about a relative we had,
like an uncle, and he was like, yeah, as your
uncle Lonnie got shot in the lung and I was like,
oh so he died. No, he lived another like forty years.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I know there's people that have testified and said this,
and also he admits it. Hank Junior used to get
so drunk on stage and put on a hell of
a show in the eighties. He would fire off like
a shotgun from the stage. Yeah, I don't know if
it's over the crowd's head. I don't know what that is.
I don't I wouldn't want to be a part of that,
to be honest with.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
You, you know, well you can still die exactly. It's
like they learned that a long time ago, that you know,
if you fire your pistols into the night sky, the
way gravity works is you know, equal and course that
bullet's gonna come down pretty hard.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I saw Hank Junior in an interview once and he said,
he goes, if you saw me in the eighties, you
might have saw me shooting the taking my pistol out
and shooting the monitor. Well, Hank didn't like the way
the monitor sounded clock clock, you know. Can you imagine
if we did that the comedy store or something, just.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Like nice almost like a couple of times he did
the opposite of a country singer, Like the sound system
wasn't working in the o R and he bought them
a new sound system. It's like, I hate this sound system.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Oh that's cool, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, that's man. I like hearing about that. Like Robin Williams,
there was I guess there was danger that the roof
was needed repair or something. And this was like maybe
two years before he passed on. He did like a
whole weekend at the store basically just to pay for it. Oh,
(12:01):
basically just to make sure that they were able to
replace the roof. I love hearing about stuff like that
when comics kind of like give back on places that
they work.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Immortally, especially when they can you know, it's uh yeah,
it's amazing. It's a you know, imagine if the power
you how great that would feel to be like like
Mike Black, you know, homecoming and then you go back home,
do a show. Let me keep the door. You raise
forty thousand for the local elementary school band or or
the you know what I mean, the high school play.
(12:31):
They can get some I don't know, you know, or whatever,
a wing of a hospital, you know's that's one of
my goals is to get to that level where we can.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Do that, you know, I am or like to keep
Hooters open, you know, something to.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Keep something able, to keep keeping open.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Something to really help help out the community. Yeah, you
know about all these young kids that are never going
to get to eat hot wings at Hooters. Yeah, I
saw that they were looking out for them.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
There was this girl that was trending on a recently.
She was a Hooters girl and she was saying how
much she made and on some days it was like
three hundred dollars in tips, and people were rethinking their
own careers. They're like, maybe I should go to Hooters
and be a Hooters girl. Like that's not you know,
especially if it's really busy and you're like, damn, I
mean like fifteen hundred this week.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Well yeah. On the flip side of that, they also,
for a long time they notoriously had the bandana requirement,
meaning if you could not tie a bandana around your waist,
you could not work at Hooters.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Damn, I wonder if I could do that. I don't know,
you know.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
They they had a male Hooters employee, oddly enough, didn't
get tipped as much.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
They're like, eh, you're good, You're good. I wouldn't that suck, Dude,
the one time we go to Hooters we get a
male employee, Yeah, like that would be Can we let's
just go to Buffalo Wild Wings?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
We uh, yeah, you may as well. At that point,
although like I really did. This sounds like I'm saying
I read Playboy for the articles, but I really will
say I did like the wings at Hooters. They were very,
very good wings.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You know, did you know my buddy Tuggy Toogi Jackson.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
That name sounds real, real familiar, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
The great guy. Awesome said to him. A really really
funny comedian. He was a for years. He was a
chef at Hooters. He always last and I called him
a chef. He was, But I knew him when he
I met him in La Joya down at the comedy store.
And it's just a funny guy. I'd always come to
the comedy shows and everybody would encourage him to be
a comedian, and he finally did it. And I mean
he used to work at like seafood restaurants and stuff.
(14:41):
And here's how much of a fan he was. He would, uh,
he knew who Mitsy Shore was and he wasn't even
a comedian. And so when Mitsy would come in, he'd
always like hook her up with extra stuff, and you know,
and he got into the Hooters world. And then then
then they got him to, uh, you know, open up
other restaurants or like, hey, we have a new one
in Seattle. Like they fly him up there to kind
of help train everybody. But he was a comedian. He
(15:02):
didn't really you know, the Hooters was just to pay
the bills. And then you know, he got a lot
of side projects from that, like because he was such
a such a likable fun I'm I'm talking about like
he was he still is, but he just doesn't live
in l a likable fun guy. Like we went to
a Toby Keith concert, No, we went to a taping
at Jimmy Kimmel Show. And uh so you got to
imagine this this big brother black dude with dreads but
(15:26):
with a cowboy hat. And when when Toby walked by,
everyone's waving and stuff, and then Toby and then Tugi's
like Toby and Toby stopped what he was doing over
and like shook his hand like Toby. I'm mixing the
names up Toby and Togi, but Tugi was just like
everybody loved Togi.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Man and and Toby liked took exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Was just a cool dude, like he had the hook
up on everything. And and yet for a while he
was working at the he worked at Santa Monica Hooters,
Pastadena Hooters, and then he worked at the Hollywood Hooters
or at Hollywood and Highland, and you know all the
different celebs that would pop in, you know, they knew
him from comedy, they knew him just he's just a
gregarious guy. I think that's the right word. Very friendly,
gregarious guy. And yeah, he's what he was got. We
(16:09):
got hooked up with like you know, hockey tickets and this,
that to this premiere and this and that and and
where am I going with this story? Oh yeah? So
he uh he it's like a hap, It's like a
Cinderella story. Man. He he uh started dating a Hooters
girl and that, which is kind of funny because he
(16:30):
wasn't really a big fan of the Hooters girls. Because
he got to really know him and he was like, man,
like you know, like you know, at the different stores,
like like sure they look good, and but he said
that you know, guys were constantly bringing them teddy bears
and this and that and gifts and and he kind
of saw the the you know, it's like behind the
scenes that maybe a strip club or something, you know,
(16:51):
like right, you're killing you guys, are you know? But anyway, so,
but but there were definitely some good Hooters girls, like
I remember one, uh yeah, I remember this.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
The Heart of Gold.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
The Heart of Gold. Yeah, this girl, I forget her name,
but I remember she She got out of Hooters and
became went to the police academy, became a cop. She
actually moved to Fresno, and I remember I went, I
did a show and she brought her son, and the
had like it was cool. I remember her because she
was a cool person. It was who wasn't just like
I am sexually. She was like actually, like, you know,
like cool, and she had a redheaded son. So I
(17:26):
was like, oh, it's so cool. I was a red
headed kid once, you know. Yes, So my point is, yeah,
he ended up being the cooked Hooters. He dated the
Hooters waitress. They fell in love, they got married, and
now I believe they have three beautiful children. They have
three kids, and they live in Pennsylvania and he's out there,
and yeah, there was a little Hooters Hooters history there. Tugi,
(17:49):
if you're listening, we love you. Come back to La.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
At least to I know.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
It was funny. He said that people call him all
the time and they never never, no one ever got
his name right. High is Turkey. There is cookie there, No,
it's Tugi t o O g A too GHI too Gi.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
But well, I'm sure he made wings for me at
some point, whether I knew it or not, because I
would go. I used to do a show out in
Santa Monica in a bowling alley with Craig Coleman and
Sally Mullins and a few other people throughout time. But
it was a block over was Hooters, and it was
(18:32):
the only thing open when we were done, so all
the comics would go to Hooters afterwards and they would
They treated us great. They were really nice. It was
a lot of fun. And one time the comedian Andrew Solmsen,
big guy, big into tech support, like really computer nerdy
(18:52):
sort of guy, and you know, I wanted to in
bite everyone and it didn't seem like his cup of tea,
but I thought, what the hell it's in And I
was like, Andrew, you want to come with us to Hooters?
And he was like, I've never been to a Hooters.
I would like to do a blog about that. Okay, sure,
you know whatever, come and have fun with the rest
(19:15):
of us. And so we start having wings and everything,
and he's having the just the time of his life.
He's never been to anything like this. And then you know,
I didn't think we had a shot with any of
the girls or anything like that, or even like the
single girls that were there. But you know, you still
(19:39):
want to look somewhat cool.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Halfway through eating, I'm not kidding, he whipped out what
I thought was his wallet and I thought, oh, he's
going to offer to pay in that suite. And he
starts unfolding it and keeps unfolding it, and the next
thing you know, he's got a computer right there at
the table that he it is unfolded and he starts
(20:03):
clacking away, typing this is me. And I was like, Andrew,
what are you doing? And he goes, I'm blogging about Hooters.
Like I said, I was like, you do that ship
at home? Put that away, right, we already look nerdy enough.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Just don't I'm blogging my experience.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I was like, this is not the time.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
That's hilarious because the first I thought, you said vlogging
like with filming it, which would be kind of weird too.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, you know, is writing a blog about it?
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah, that's even more. Let me put on my writer's hat.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
But he's a really funny comic and a really sweetheart
of a guy. But I just that was the one
time that I kind of came down on him.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
That's funny. Whenever I would go whenever I would, you know,
when took he would say like, hey, swing by this one,
like whenever you know, San Diego or whatever. I'd walk
into the place with him. I always like to experience
more because people would they would just be themselves, you know,
like just regular people. Yeah. The one time I went
to Hooters without him, and it was in Sacramento and
a buddy of mine wanted to go, and I was touring.
(21:05):
I was at one comedy club. He was at another
comedy club, and he lives in Indianapolis, and he goes, man,
let's meet at Hooters.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Man.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
He goes, I got my I got, I got my passport,
and I need to go there and get my my
my Hooters passport stamped, you know, because I guess he
goes to different Hooters around the country. And I was like, okay,
so I remember we went to Hooters and but there
was just a bunch of alarms going off outside. Hopefully
you guys can't hear that, but.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I can't hear it.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
So we went to Hooters and it was a totally
different experience than what I was used to because usually
you go there and they're just regular and they're being nice,
and when you like a burger, Do you want fries?
You know, how's your day going? Just a normal experience.
This was more like, oh, there's four guys. We were
all the comics, and it was all the headliners and
the features, and the waitress was you know, came over
and really turned on the whole charm of you know,
(21:51):
with the little bubbly voice like, hi, guys, how's everything going?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
And yeah, dude.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
It was annoying as hell. I swear to got because
maybe because I wanted to catch up with my friend,
and she kept popping around like never mind me. And
remember she turned the barstool upside down and sat on
it and kind of straddled it and started rocking like
she was riding a bull or something, and she's like,
I've got a competition coming up this weekend. Never mind me,
(22:18):
I'm just gonna practice. You guys.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Jesus.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
It was like, leave us alone already. And then my
buddy wanted ranch dressing, and then she I didn't realize
that they up charged, so everything was like two fifty here,
two fifty there, dollars seventy five if you want this dollar,
and it was man, I was like, I do not.
This was not it wasn't fun. I was like, I
don't really like this. And then I remember that night
(22:42):
I went to Denny's after the show and the waitress
was probably twice her age and probably twice as heavy,
and uh, but I really enjoyed the experience a much
more because I think she was like a lot more genuine.
And at one point I had that like a sore
throat or something, and she honey, I got some lozenges,
would you lack one? And she gave me a loss
(23:03):
and it was just like, man, like this, I prefer
Denny's in the Hooters things I don't.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, that's that's when you realize you've matured a little bit.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah you're yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Let's talk about something. I do not want to do
a whole Hooters episode.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Exactly why exactly? Oh I got one for you. Can
I tell you this thing real quick. When you said
Robie Williams raised some money to put a new roof
on the on I almost said a new I almost
said Robbie Williams raised money to put a new roof
on Hooters. But yeah, on the comedy Store and they
(23:40):
h Dude, this rain is insane. Man, this is like
what we needed, but it just like didn't stop it.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I'm sick. If I hear one more person tell me
we need this rain, I'm gonna punch him right in
them mouth because we don't need it. A few farmers
need it, right, it's the rest of us. I don't
care about having a lot of rain. I don't want it.
I don't give it. Give my portion of rain to
(24:08):
the mart.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
I'm like, you know what, let's let's do if you.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
And we don't, we don't get it anyway. It all
gets sold to Pepsi or does some other company anyhow.
So it's like, no matter how much we need it,
we still need it.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Right, yeah right, I think like Nestle or something. But
I know, uh yeah, here's here's how selfish i'm when
it comes to rain. I'm like, yeah, why couldn't it
rain like after hours, like you know, like like maybe
from like two am to like new.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Got to ruin the whole day every day for like
two weeks now.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I know, And I think we've had like this light
rain where you could still go out and do something
like you just you know, you park, you go to
the front door of a store. It doesn't really bug you.
This is like downpours of thunder and lightning. And here's
where it really hit home. Dude, we got uh we
got a leak in our living room. I don't know.
Did you did your place? Hold up?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
My place did?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, dude, we got this leak and it wasn't terrible,
but it was you know. We come back from the
farm and my son goes to place piano and all
the keys were like like making weird noises, and we're like,
what's going on? And we thought, well, maybe it's too
close to the window, like condensation, you know. So then
we bought a cover for the piano and luckily it's
(25:26):
covered over warranty and they'll they'll either replace or fix it.
But they uh so, the I noticed a little puddle
of water, like a very small like a tablespoon of
water was on the cover, and I told my wife,
I go, wow, this cover is good. It works. There's
there's water, and then she's like and then we both
look up and we discovered there's like dripping. It's like
(25:48):
drip drip. It wasn't condensation, it was an actual drip
and we're like, oh oh yeah. So then we had
the guy go on the roof, and then and then
they were telling us to like drill a hole and
and my wife looked it up and then said, yeah,
I take a screwdriver in poke hol. That way, at
least the water has some way to escape, it doesn't
spread out, and like your whole ceiling comes down, and yeah,
(26:10):
and then last night, get this. So my wife goes
to bed, my son goes to bed. So finally there's
no noise in the house, right, the TV's are off,
the computers are off. I take my headphones out and
I hear what I thought. I couldn't tell if it
was a completely different drip or if it was a
really loud clock, because I heard this really loud I heard,
(26:33):
and I'm like, damn, that clock sounds louder than normal.
And I'm like, uh oh, And I walk over and
I investigate, and sure enough, there was another spot that
the the roof was like the ceiling was leaking, but
that one we think was easy to fix. That might
have been like like an air conditioning or a heater
vent type of thing that might have been clogged or something.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
But yeah, you gotta get on anything water related. You
kind of got to yet, on it right away because
you don't want mold and all that stuff, you know.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah, I mean we've been using the blow dryer on
hot and stuff, trying to drive out and all that
good stuff. But uh yeah, and the roofers are coming
over to fix it, so hopefully, uh hopefully they'll do
their thing. I took my How about you, did you
have to drive anywhere in the rain.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah, a couple of times, but it really wasn't that
bad for me. There are a lot of people in
California that do not know how to drive in the rain,
and that's what makes it dangerous is the rain itself
is not so bad. It's the people freaking out about
the rain. Oh you know, dude.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
New Year's Eve, I had to drive from you know,
like the Burbank North Hollywood area over to Ventura and
on the freeway and that was like insane, man, it
was I'm going forty I don't want to go too fast.
But even on the freeway on the one on one, which,
by the by the way, this like they shut it
down last night. That's how flooded. The really the freeway
(28:03):
got flooded, like they shut it down both directions. So yeah,
there's definitely there was a couple of spots. As you're
on the freeway, you're seeing the car ahead you go
and water splashes up to the left and to the right,
like the water was pooling on a freeway, which normally
you wouldn't see that. You see you might see it
on a little back road or something. But I was like,
(28:24):
this is insane. So on New Year's Eve, I had
to drive in that kind of r and there's this
one part where you go downhill, like up by Cama Rillo,
and uh, you're looking at the guard rails and then
there's a point where there's no guard rail and the
way the rain starts going sideways and then there's diesels
all around you and water splashing from the northbound traffic.
(28:44):
But I'm on the slow lane. It's like, I was like,
I'm sorry, I'm gonna go slow. I'm not gonna you know,
you guys can go around. At one point I put
my hazard's light hazard lights on. It was going about
thirty five forty in the slow lane, and yeah, I'm
just like, it ain't worth it just to speed and
spin out. I've seen that before. It's it's it's ugly
when you see someone spin out.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, well you probably don't want to be on the
Preway at thirty or forty miles an hour, but yeah,
but yeah, in general, that's that is.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Oh yeah, well when I say thirty, because there's cars
that were going like fifty five, you know, they feel invincible.
I'm like, yeah, you got no, no, don't do that.
And then but I'll tell you one way that I
do feel a little invincible when it comes to the
rain is, uh I have I bought a raincoat a
few years ago. Like I never had a raincoat. Like
I have coats that would be water resistant and you
(29:36):
can be out, but they get wet. I got this
raincoat and uh, man, between the raincoat and an umbrella,
and then I went to Walmart and got some rubber boots. Man,
You're like, bring it on.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
And and it's always the thing that like once you
get all that sort of gear, that's when the rain
clears up, exactly, you know, once you have the full
suit of farmers.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yeah, I know. Like, knowing that the rain was coming,
I was like, I'm gonna go to like, you know,
running Canyon of Griffith Park. I'm gonna go out there.
But then when it was raining like cats and dogs.
I was like, I ain't gonna walk around and no
rain like that. That's just insane.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
No, that's crazy. You get struck by light.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Yeah, Like if it's a drizzle, I'm like, you know,
and if it's you know, you know what I mean,
like a drizzled and it's gone in thirty minutes, that
I could deal with, but not a real downport. We
ended up walking at the mall yesterday because I like
to stay active and get you know a little exercise.
So I took my son to the mall. We did
our exercise there, but I just dressed normal. I didn't
wear all the rain gear.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah. Yeah, you don't want to wear it in the mall.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Yeah, it's like clon.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
But yeah, what I've been doing is I'll go to
Frankenson's and just walk around and there and just you know,
do any shopping I want to do, but then just
kind of walk around the perimeter to get my steps
and stuff. You know.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
That's Frankinson's, that's the one you were telling me. It's
out in near Pomona.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
I think, yeah, yeah, and that or I'll just go
to the mall, you know, and just do the same
sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Do you have a Do you have a couple of
different malls you're like going to.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Oh yeah. The problem is a lot of them are
outdoor sort of places, like Third Street Promenade or like
Century City. Uh, they're they're good malls, but they're outdoorsy malls,
and like Century City, the floor is like marble tile,
(31:41):
like smooth marble tile. I think gets wet. You're just screwed,
you know.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yeah, yeah, it's Uh, it was really fun hanging with
my son at the mall and even just seeing his
face light up when I suggested I go, hey, later,
I'm gonna go to the mall to get a little exercise.
You want to go with me? It's like yeah, you know,
because it goes your homework done. I mean, can we go?
It remind me of like growing up in the eighties,
like you know, you'd meet your buddies. That was a
big thing, the to go to a mall, you know.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
And yeah, I'm very much of that generation where like
going to the mall was a big deal and it
was the big social thing. You didn't have like social
networks and stuff, so that was the best way to
meet people with similar interests with Like if you liked
video games, you literally went to the arcade to play
(32:30):
video games with other people. You know.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah, you had like the like you said they had
the outdoor I think the outdoor outdoor mall probably came first, right,
like those shopping plazas.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
But then like strip malls.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yeah yeah, but then when you got the indoor mall,
that was like.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Yeah, that was people. I think if you grew up
after the eighties, it's just not quite the same, you know,
like your experience with it isn't quite as enchanting, I guess,
you know, right, Like like we grew up in the
time where like department stores had coffee shops in them.
(33:10):
Oh yeah, remember.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
That, Like do they still have that, Like Nordstroms doesn't
they have Like don't they have like a coffee bar.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Now they'll have like the modified version of it. They'll
have like a Starbucks or something.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Oh, I see what you're saying, like a like a
Newberries or like a Woolworth's or something.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Yeah. Like back then though, you could have like it
was like having a Denny's inside of a store. You know,
they would have like counters where you could sit and
have breakfast. Or lunch or whatever, you know. Yeah, and
then you could shop and it was like back when
they did the whole Santa's Village at Christmas time where
(33:45):
it was like this huge, sprawling display, you know. And uh,
places like that always smelled like popcorn because they would
sell like popcorn at the they would have like old
snack area.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
You know.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
It was just a totally different experience than shopping is now.
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, when I was growing up, there was we had
two malls, and there was the Manchester Mall and the
Fashion Fair. Which one do you think was better?
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Manchester Mall sounds like it was better.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
See that might have been better like in the early years,
but I believe, but when I was growing up, fashion
Fair was the good one. Like that was like the
good mall. And now if you go by Manchester Center,
it's a I think they've converted into like adult schools
or something like adult education. Oh wow, Yeah, it's weird.
Growing up, it was like got Chalks and these different
(34:42):
department stores.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Our malls in Aurora, Colorado were all very lofty titles,
like well there was Aurora Mall. It's pretty normal. But
we had the Buckingham Palace Mall, we had Cinderella City,
which was two levels and the low were level of
Cinderella City was done to look like an English like
(35:05):
a British street, where it had like cobblestone and gas
lamps and stuff like that. And there was a place
in there called Nathan's Physical Whimsical and then they changed
the name to Fantastic and place for kids that had
(35:27):
what they boasted was the world's largest teddy bear, which
was sixty feet tall I believe, or it maybe thirty,
but it was huge to a kid, it seemed like
sixty feet and kids would always try and climate and
get hurt. And it had like a cave that you
(35:48):
could run around in. There was a room where they
had like glow in the dark panels and a black
light that would turn on and off, and you what
you would do is you'd run up to the panel
and make some sort of weird pose. Then the black
light would go off and you'd get away from it
and you would see your silhouette on the wall.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
So there was all sorts of weird cool shit, and
they had this kind of like air ducks but for
kids to play in that had like tunnels.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Oh, kind of like that movie die Hard.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Yeah, it was very similar to Diehard. You would crawl
around in these tunnels like forty feet off the ground
and and but they had like portals where you could
see below you and stuff like that. It was crazy wow.
And they had a ball pit.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
So I'm reading this. It says the first retail complex
to be promoted as a mall was in Paramus, New
Jersey's Bergen Mall Paramus There you Go. The center, which
opened with an open air format in nineteen fifty seven,
was enclosed in nineteen seventy three, and then that kicked
it off. It said in closed shopping centers spread across
(37:01):
the US at a rapid rate. By nineteen sixty, just
four years after Gruin's first there was there were four
four thousand, five hundred malls in North America, and by
nineteen seventy five there were sixteen four hundred shopping malls
in existence.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Okay, aside from the major stores like your Sears or J. C.
Pennies and all like that, what were some stores that
you like, you've toured around the world. We've both been
to one thousand malls easily. What are some of the
stores that you think it's not a mall. If they
don't have this place, I'll give you my first one. Okay,
(37:43):
that I would say, this is like number one if
your food court didn't have an Orange Julius. Yeah, it's
not a mall, right, you know.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Yeah you said I couldn't say department stores. But I'm sorry,
But if I always think Macy's for some reason, if
it has Macy's, I'm like, it's a really good it's
a it's a good mall.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
It's a mall. It's a mall. It's a it's a
real real mall.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
It's not like just a bunch of stories you never
heard of that are on their way out, you know,
like yeah, close out sale. You're like, and you know what, man,
I don't know what's going on with Macy's. But I
went to this one part of Macy's and I was like,
I told my son, do you think this stuff is
good or crap? Because it looked like a bunch of junk,
like you're it almost looked like you were in like
a what's it called Burlington coat factory or like a
(38:29):
ross right, like that kind of vibe, and and and
it looked kind of didn't look like a Macy's. It
looked kind of bad, but it was this one section
of Macy's and I looked up as we were leaving
that section, and and that section is called Macy's backstage.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I've been to Macy's backstage. Yeah, it's awful.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
You know what I'm saying. You're like, what the.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
It's all their clearance stuff just mush yeah, hushed together.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
It's like, you know, some lame Father's Day type gifts,
you know, and all that kind of stuff. You're like,
this is not Macy's. But yeah, man, they When we
walked around the mall yesterday, I noticed that Sears is gone,
bed Bath and Beyond is on its way out the door.
There's a few other places that you're like, what the
heck like, and yeah, you know, maybe because it was
a rainy day and we went on every single floor
(39:15):
we could find, the mall got really kind of boring
after about an hour, like like, wow, we keep there's
a lot of clothes thing. I mean, it's still open
enough to like there was some fun stuff in there,
but it got you know.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
But yeah, it's not quite It's nowhere near what it
used to be.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
There's no record stores, there's no bookstores. I used to
love the record stores was a great draw to the mall,
you know or bookstore.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Well yeah, yeah, like the Suncoast video that that used
to be fun, uh Sam Goody yep, you know they
used to have those Tower records. Yeah, tower records.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
What was the The restaurant in the mall wasn't a restaurant,
It was first cafeteria. Oh yeah, that was That meant
you were at a real mall. But that was like
for old people, but for kids. There was do you
remember around the corner?
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Mmm? No, I don't think we had that.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Round the corner was a burger place. But you had
a phone at each table. Oh cool, and you would
literally phone your order in.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Like they didn't want they didn't have waiters, and you
didn't go to the counter. They were like, no, sit
at the table and call us when you're ready to order.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
I saw something on Happy Days once which I thought,
you know, when you're a kid, you're like, that's the
TV is your window to what you think the adult
world will be like. And remember there was an episode
where they were at a diner like Mells or something,
and each table would have a phone and a phone
number and you could call like other tables and call
girls and be like, hey, we're table thirteen. How you
you know? But I never saw that in real life though.
(40:53):
I don't know if that was just a TV thing
or what.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
I think they had that at some places, but not Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Well, nobody was ringing my phone ever. My phone was
just not ringing.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Yeah, that would suck. If you had been in a
place like that, your whole life didn't know it. You
were so not popular.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
I know that sounds like that kid off of what's
his name? Off the Simpsons, the guy that always has
his fingers known friends. Yeah, like, can you call my number?
I gave this girl my number and I don't think.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
My fav for me.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Yeah, yeah, it says. During the nineteen eighties, malls were thriving,
with large anchor stores attracting droves of shoppers year round.
Record stores were a mall mainstay during the eighties, the
food court became the place to refuel and hang out
with your friends in the eighties. Yep, here's all these
(41:52):
different questions. What was the golden age of malls? When
did mall start dying? All right, let's click that. When
when did mall start dying. Uh, oh, do you have
any guests? Guests? Do you have any guests? Do you
have a guest? On when mall started dying? Hello? Are
(42:16):
you still there?
Speaker 1 (42:18):
I would say ninety five?
Speaker 3 (42:20):
So according to this, yeah, that's that's it, says the
massive change, When did mall start? The massive change led
Newsweek to declare indoor mall format obsolete in two thousand
and eight. The year two thousand and seven marked the
first time since the nineteen fifties that no new malls
were being built in the US. Wow, I wonder what.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Eight seems a lot later than I expected.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
You know, it's no secret that online malls is becoming
increasingly popular, So people are just shopping online from the
comfort of their home, and such a wide range of
products available. But I still I still like to do
certain things, like you know what I mean, I do
like like the walking that they're walking inside. I like
(43:09):
being around, like being stimulated, you know, when I'm on
the road. I remember I used to love like during
the day, like I'm gonna walk around the mall because
sometimes you'll just see like like some kind of catchphrase
on a shirt and that may trigger an idea for
a joke. Or you may see, like I don't know,
there's something about all that stimulus that for me would like, yeah,
get something going. You know.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
A lot of it too, wasn't just like what you
were into, but seeing what other people were into and
like people watching and seeing like groups go into certain places,
you know, like all the goth kids go on a
hot topic, or all the nervy kids going to the shop,
and you know, it was like it was just interesting
to be aware of what other people were doing, you know,
(43:53):
all the stoner kids going to the record shop and stuff, you.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Know, right, you know. I remember I had this great
joke for a while, and it was because I was
in a mall and I saw Harley Davidson neck pillow.
There was like this Harley Davidson store, and when I
saw the neck pillow, that just triggered this idea of
like who would get that? And then I came up
with this great bit where I never would have if
I didn't go to the mall, you know what I mean,
because the idea that I was like, who has that?
(44:18):
At that? Maybe it's some guy who's like.
Speaker 5 (44:20):
Yeah, my wife she won't let me have a Harley.
But I get all the assissories. I got my Heart
Davidson belt buckle, my Harley Davidson motorcycle boots, and my
Harley Davidson Hypo wather Jennic double Deluxe All American Featherfield
neck pillow.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
I'll tell you who would have a Harley david pillow.
Speaker 6 (44:40):
Yeah, I'm Tahoe Joe with Harley Davidson neck pillows. Come
on down, put the code word party starter and you
get your Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
When he wasn't busy riding with the Hell's Angels, he
beats them.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Downtime, Yeah, some goose down time. Get it, folks, That's
hilarious downtime. Because I was like, it's funny. I did
ask my dad that once. I said, hey, because I
was performing in Lake Tahoe, and I said, hey, when
you guys would go to Lake Tahoe and your biker runs,
what hotel did you stay at? And he goes hotel
(45:16):
we would just bed down on the ground. Was about
the campfire. I was like, oh, yeah, that makes more sense,
Like you know, I remember he doesn't. Yeah, whenever I
was trying to the rest of it, Yeah, I'd ask
him stuff about Harley's and this and that, and he
was I guess, he goes, when we were doing it
was really outlaw back then, like in the sixties, and
he's like, now they got the Harley Davison watches and museums,
(45:39):
and you know, he just was like he said, it's
just a different animal than I guess back in the day.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Yeah. Yeah, it's like I think it's kind of like
anything else. It's you find a thing that you're passionate about,
right that you love, and you tell other people about it,
and you'd get them to love it too. Next thing,
you know, those people have told all their friends about
(46:05):
it and so on and so on, and it becomes mainstream,
and then the people that have any money to be
made and that thing are now marketing to those people
instead of you, And the next thing, you know, you're
kind of on the outside of this thing that you love.
For me, that happened with comic Con where I was,
(46:28):
I loved going to Comic Con, and it was when
I started going, it was really just me and you know,
a couple thousand other people that were into it, you know,
and then like Twilight and Iron Man hit around the
same time, and it just got monstrous after that and
(46:49):
just became too big to contain to the point where
most of those people that were coming up when I
was going to it would have a very very difficult
time getting in now, you know, like they'd be hard
pressed to be able to get tickets to go anymore,
you know, right, But it's the same with like the
(47:11):
super Bowl or Fashion Week or WrestleMania. Anything that gets
it just hits a certain level in the mainstream. Like
one day you're Bumpkin Activities. People might decide, oh, I
want to kick shit and smell a pig or whatever.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
I want to punch tires and yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
That sort of and all it takes is a couple
of celebrities tweeting about it. The next thing, you know,
you can't get into the Bumpkin Activities.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
You know, it's so funny that happens. It's like how
something just takes on. I remember when I had my
album out in twenty sixteen called The Party Continues, and
I got this bright idea to have stickers, and on
the sticker I'd put a QR code. At that time,
not a lot of people knew what QR codes were,
and it almost looked like I was just handing them
(47:58):
an advertisement, and they just didn't weren't interested in it.
And I remember I was talking to Dean del Ray
about that and he goes Man, He's like, yeah, it
looks like something. He goes jay z or somebody needs
to make something happen to where everybody knows what a
QR code is. Yeah, and uh. And then what happened
was the you know, twenty twenty hit and they went
to like touchless menus, and now everybody knows what the
(48:20):
QR code is, right.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
Yeah, It's like and now I know what it is.
I still am not wild about them, but I know
what they.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Are right exactly exactly. I'm not like, you know, it's
like that.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
I think that it's technology. They have to find that
threshold between uh, innovative and annoying. Yeah, you know, it's
it's a tough balance to figure out because like most
of the QR codes that I've ever scanned were just advertising,
you know, or just like something that, uh, you could
(48:58):
have done otherwise, you know, like just just scan our
QR code for the menu. The time you took to
print that up put on the table, you could have
just printed up a menu.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
Yes, if if I have that option of you know,
I'm like, no, just please just hand me a menu.
I don't need to scan the restaurants something to read.
Type in my email and so that I.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Can scan it to see something to read. Right, you know,
it's like when it's it's the redundancy that that I
don't care for.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
You know. Oh, here's what I want to say. There
was there's a country singer I really like pumpkin activity.
So we go another bump. His name is Tom T. Hall.
He's known as the Great Storyteller. Okay, I don't know
if you've ever heard any music by Timer.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
I couldn't tell you a song.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
One of his biggest hits. I'm sure your mom would know.
It's it's called I Love and it's the one that
went like you might know it went. It goes like,
uh love little baby ducks, old pickup trucks.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
I didn't realize that was him, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
He's great man. Okay. So one of the songs and
he wrote this at the height of the Malls. The
song was written in nineteen eighty six, and the song
is called Down at the Mall and it really you
know what I mean, It's like he just kind of
sums up what he saw to them all in nineteen
eighty six, and Harl'll read some of the lyrics. Mama
(50:24):
can't find a babysitter, so she drags the kids along.
There's a salesman with a quota to meet today or
he'll be gone. There's a mooney selling roses to a
baptist in the hall. You can see it all down
at the mall. There's a whino begging quarters, trying to
drown the past. A three year old at the pet
store with her nose against the glass. There's an old
(50:47):
man on a pension with his back against the wall.
You can see them all down at the mall. It's America.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
I don't think you can see a line, oh, begging
for change inside of them all.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
Maybe outside, yeah, yeah, well maybe yeah, you're right here,
yeah yeah, yeah. You don't really see that in the mall.
You see outside the mall.
Speaker 1 (51:06):
But that's kind of the whole point of the ball
is to not have.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
To do exactly, to kind of get away from those winos.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Uh, it's a I love this line. It's America in motion.
It's a portrait of the times where blue light special
heroes and a land where freedom shines. There's yuppies, guppies, puppies,
and a sale on basketball. You can find them all
down at the mall. Young couple stare at a wedding
ring they know they can't afford. There's an Asian refugee
(51:36):
with the big old ice cream store. A policeman buying
candy for a little child who's lost. You can see
it all down at the mall. There's a grandma shop
in early. I know, I can just hear you going bullshit,
none of this happened.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Yeah, I just there's a lot of it that.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
It's like, I don't really there's cops for people. This
is yeah, this is nineteen eighty six, so maybe back then,
cups are by ice cream for okay, there's a petal
buying ice cream. Yeah, no, here we go. There's a
grandma shopping early. There's there's a grandma shopping early there.
She's digging through the toys. Young girls at the record
(52:16):
store they're making eyes at boys. There's a weekend daddy
with the hardest, biggest Santa Claus. You can see them
all down at the mall. Oh, there's a weekend daddy
with the hardest Oh, I gotcha. He only gets the
boat the kids on the weekends because they're divorced. Yeah, eighties,
it's American motion. It's a portrait of the times. Blah
blah blah blah blah. I thought that was I love
(52:37):
that song. It's when I hear it, I'm like, oh,
it's so cool. It just pictures that that people watching
vibe you know.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
Yeah, Okay, Now, who was the biggest draw musical act
in the mall in the eighties.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
I'm gonna say we're doing Ninkovic.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
My guess would be two different.
Speaker 3 (53:01):
Yeah, it was Tiffany. Tiffany, Right, you're right, that girl.
She did a mall tour.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
It was a brilliant idea. It was made it the
smartest idea in the world.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
Oh my gosh, you're right, the the little red girl. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
Just the fact that we both know her name. I
this many years later.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
I'm gonna look up Tiffany mall tour. Yeah, Tiffany Maltour
nineteen eighty seven. Yeah, she began at June twenty third,
nineteen eighty seven, fifteen year old. Fifteen years old Tiffany
starts her mall tour. Wow. Oh, there's a picture of
her with the little red hair.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
Crazy. Yeah, I thought for sure you would know.
Speaker 3 (53:40):
Yeah, I was kidding. I was trying to be funny
with the weird al thing. I couldn't think of a
funnier thing.
Speaker 1 (53:45):
But yeah, weird all actually like that. That's not a
bad guess, like for that time period, right, if he
had played Malls, he would have he would assault the
fuck out of Tiffany.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
Yeah. Nineteen eighty seven, fifteen years old. I think we're
alone now. That was like our big hit. But yeah, well, Mike,
I got to get ready for a show. I got
to hop out there. Thank god the rain has rolled away.
Speaker 1 (54:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (54:13):
Thanks for taking a part of your day in joining
the Pocket Party podcast. And you guys check out Mike.
He's on Instagram and he's always posting fun stuff.
Speaker 1 (54:21):
Yeah, and I'll be announcing my model tours shortly. Yeah,
I know.
Speaker 3 (54:28):
That's awesome. Man. Hey, guys, thanks again for checking out
the Pocket Party podcast and Mike. Let's let's regroup and
do another one soon.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
Yeah, and remember to fall into the gap.
Speaker 3 (54:37):
Oh yeah, baby, I'll see you later.
Speaker 1 (54:41):
There.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
You got it, man, All right, bye, look at you.
You made it all the way through. By the way,
if you guys want to donate to the show and
help it move along. Go to Darrencarter dot com. Hit
that PayPal button. Also, I'm on Venmo and I'm on
the cash app. All the links are below, so check
out the links. And if you want to do something
just doesn't cost you a time, give it five stars
(55:03):
on Apple and give it a little review. And if
you really want to do something, it takes almost zero effort,
share the link and all your socials share the link.
Say hey, I like this podcast. It's good. And other
than that, you guys have a great day and we
will talk soon. Don't hurt nobody. Be careful. Get your
push ups in, man, I've been doing my push ups.
(55:24):
Even if it rains, I still get the push ups
and the sit ups in. And I'll tell you it
makes you feel good. All right, y'all have a great day.
Speaker 7 (55:31):
Everybody. Listen to Darren Carter. We all know he's the
party starter. So if you want to listen to a
podcast for free, and listen to the Pocket Party
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.