Dr. Kroupa's Natural Health Hours 10-1-25 with Doc, Suzi, Bill and Producer Steve.

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Speaker 1 (02:45):
Thank you? That was our audience, and they've been drinking
a little early. Welcome everybody to doctor Cooper's Natural Health Hours.
It is October first. The cold front is blowing through
right before I walked in here the outdoors sins or
in the sunlights at ninety nine, and I've thought about

(03:07):
getting my heavy coat, but I'll not worry about it
for a few minutes. We've got Susie Bill, producer Steve
behind the curtain all here tonight, and we got a
little theme song for each one of them that we're
gonna play, maybe kind of regular who knows. In case

(03:29):
anybody hasn't noticed your government shut down, and I'm sure
a lot of people are in mourning. But anyway, Susie
and Bill say hello if you'd like to.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Susie heeding, everyone, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Coops all right, and producer Steve You're welcome to jump
in anytime you ever lock But he's pretty busy back
there behind curtain. I was thinking tonight they keep saying
that all these people and all them protests are being paid,

(04:10):
and I believe that by now they know who that is.
And if they don't, they certainly could track it down.
I'm pretty sure they could figure out. They've said George
sorrows a lot. That would not surprise me one minute.

(04:30):
A lot of other people come to mind, but sorrows
to hear the most, and that all that is freeze
all of his money. That would tell you real quick.
But I think they can interview people and find out
the truth and that might change things just a little bit.
Tonight we're gonna touch on kind of the baby thing,

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and a lot of people say baby thing. Well, the
reason that came up is if you're married or not
and your wife or girlfriend or whatever she is, is
pregnant and they have a rough time. Guess who's going
to have a rough time with them, So there are

(05:19):
some things when they want to get pregnant that can
make it so much smoother and easier. While they're pregnant,
we can take care of a lot of issues that
normally make pregnancy rough and even having the baby. There
are a couple of tips that I learned from a

(05:39):
female doctor twenty six twenty seven years ago, and she
knew her stuff and she did what she talked about.
So we're going to cover prenatal what you need if
you want to get pregnant, helping both the husband and

(06:00):
the wife. And you know, I've been really lucky too.
Over the years. I've had a few people come to
me who wanted to get pregnant and they had tried everything,
and a lot of times it was just a simple
hormonal imbalance and they didn't have a lot of good

(06:23):
nutrition in their diet. They were trying to but a
lot of the food just was lacking. So I was
blessed with an opportunity to help. And each one that
came to me got pregnant, so that was pretty cool.
They were very happy, And like I said, we treated

(06:45):
the dad and the mom, not just one. Now, when
mom wants to get pregnant, and dad wants mom to
get pregnant and they're not getting pregnant. Oh my god,
this stress piles up in a hurry and they start
wondering which one of us has got the problem or

(07:06):
is it both, And then everybody wants to go get
tested and all that embarrassing, horrible kind of things you
got to do. But if we just start balancing stuff,
it works. And just like you know, when people are
having miscarriages and irregular menstrual cycles before they do all this,

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that's a key indicator that your body, the baby factory,
is not ready and we need to help. And like
I said, if you don't help and mom's struggling, whether
she's pregnant or not yet, or wants to get pregnant,
this can cause all the stress in the world and
everybody around the husband and the wife will so because

(08:01):
they're miserable and they're stressed. And when mom gets pregnant.
There's a lot of things that people think are normal
that are not that we can help with. So first off,
on prenatals, say mom wants to get pregnant, her and
dad are talking about starting a family. You need some

(08:24):
basic nutrition and there's several things that I recommend, and
then I'm going to give you a couple of key
ones that you could pick if you don't want to
take a lot or do a lot or spend more money.
But folic acid B twelve very important for neural tube

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production or growth or healing so that you don't have
neural tube deficits. Calcium lactate very important so that calcium
is assimilated into a mom and the baby that's trying
to grow. Biodent which is very important for the teeth,

(09:07):
and a lot of build bones, and good stuff like that.
Syro food which is like a multi vitamin whole food
kind of thing. It's got a lot of good stuff.
Ferro food for the iron, very important that they have
iron for building. A lot of the factors in the

(09:29):
pregnancy of the baby and the baby being growing inside
mama in muplex very important for mom and the baby
to have a strong immune system as that baby develops,
we want it to be healthy. Proteo food which is
the essential amino acids, and without the amino acids, we

(09:52):
don't have any protein, so that's important. And then neutromrror
is the amino acids from the whole food blex it's
got all the aminoescience. And then there's cataplex GTF that's
the glucose tolerance factor, so we don't have any blood

(10:14):
sugar imbalance. And then finally trace minerals BE twelve. That's
the icing on the cake, all the good minerals and
everything else put together. Quite it's quite a lot for
most people, but usually when they want to get pregnant,

(10:36):
they want you to help with everything you can. And
then I tell some people you could do just a
few of those like I would. I would say the
most important would be mbiplex folic acid B twelve. You
could probably pick catalin. It is a natural vitamin, mineral,

(11:05):
trace mineral, enzyme, everything. So there are ways to work
around this, but if you can and you will, doing
the ones I mentioned is fabulous. And before we ever
get to that part, I would make sure we were
doing simplex F for the women and SIMPLEXM for the men,

(11:30):
to make sure that we balance their hormones so that
mom can get pregnant and that the menstrual cycles are
regular so when mom starts to have the getting that
baby developing, there's no miscarriages or any of that stuff
because all the nutrition is there to help create that

(11:53):
baby and let it grow inside mom. If you do
all that and mom is trying to do pretty good
on her own, then you're gonna do real well now
once the baby's born, and in order for that baby
to be born. We are terrible in the Western world

(12:17):
of laying mama flat on her back and telling her
push well. Doctor Jeanie Ohm, many many years ago, I
took a seminar from her, and her and her husband
were both doctors, and they had a nurse maid and

(12:38):
they had the babies at home, and she said, the
most important thing you do for that mom when they're
having the baby is tilted down towards the floor. You notice,
and everything on this earth they have their babies and
they usually drop out. Well, in human world, we lay

(13:02):
the mom down. That's not natural. It doesn't make the
baby start gravitationally coming out. It just makes mom have
to push and strain and suffer. So you tilt mom
with her feet towards the floor, and the gravity itself
will assist with having that baby and she won't have

(13:25):
to do so much work and stress and pressing and pushing,
and it's better for baby and mom and everybody else
that's around there. And then once that baby's born, you
might need some formula depending on whether or not mom
can do breast food. But if she can do breast milk,

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that's the greatest, especially if mom's doing good things. But
if she can't develop breast milk, we do have some
things called i'm Marry PMG and this is basically the
protomorphagin for the breast to help stimulate and make let

(14:12):
it where mom can make the milk. And also you
need to make sure she's got the good fatty acids
and make sure she's got the good B vitamins. And
then if during the pregnancy mom's having a rough time
with morning sickness, are bloating or any of those problems,

(14:35):
well that's not normal, but we've made it normal in
the Western world. And usually if moms having morning sickness,
it's a digestion issue. It's a liver issue. Moms now
operating for two and everything in her body is being

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double dutied. So if we don't support the liver and
digestion and help mom deal with all that, then she
is going to have morning sickness. And when mom has
morning sickness, she suffers and everybody around her is suffering,

(15:19):
so we need to address that. And there's a lot
of things you can do. We can do, like if
mom's vomiting, foss food liquid helps af beta food which
is a liver gallbladder kind of thing, zipan which is
digestive enzymes and multizyme or ensicore which has got all

(15:40):
the important digestive enzyme stuff in there, and that'll help
her an awful lot and not have to have all
the morning sickness. If we do things right, the pregnancy
will be very smooth and Mom won't suffer. And then
if mom is tilted towards the floor at birth time,

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guess what, so much easier, so much less stress and
praying and pushing. Western medicine lost their mind when they
decided to lay women on their back and tell them
push to have a baby. They made it very difficult.
So basically, just to kind of touch on everything first,

(16:24):
if you want to get pregnant, we need to balance
the hormones. A couple of things that I like to
use are simplex F and M for the men, F
for the women. Get them on a good supplement like
cattle in emiuplex, make sure they've got all the nutrition

(16:44):
to trace minerals of things like that in their body.
Then when mom is pregnant, now we need to start
thinking about folic casts of B twelve, calcium, lack tape, biodent,
syril food, feral food with the iron emiplex again, proteo

(17:08):
food and nutramere both amino acids. Proteo food is the essential,
nutramire is all of them. And then the cataplex GTF
to help mom and the baby deal with glucose tolerance,
fector stuff and the trace minerals again. And then while
mom's pregnant, if she's got morning sickness, we need to

(17:31):
address it. It's not natural, it's not normal. It's the
body's chickensine light saying fix this, stop this. If mom's vomiting,
then we need to do some things like foss food,
liquid a beta foods ipan and these things are going
to be causing nauseousness and just weird, bad feelings for mom.

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And again you go the wrong doctor. They're going to
tell you these are all normal things of pregnancy. No
they're not. We can do better. And then when it's
time to have the baby, tilt mom down towards the floor.
Let gravity help her once that baby comes out. Now

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we need to make sure that we have breast milk
and we can help mom with the memory PMG, the
omega fatty acids, and the B vitamins very important. And
if you need a baby formula because mom can't make
it her own milk for some reason, are something just

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to give mom a break from pumping constantly if she's
trying to store it in bottles. We use cyril food,
calcil food powder, and thymus, and that cyril food is
kind of a multi vitamin. The calcial food is going
to have the calcium potassium, a few other things that

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are pretty important in the bone world there, and then thymus,
which is from the thymus gland, which stimulates tea cells
to help fight infection. So that way you're giving the
baby all that. And they say in the first sharp
amount of time after birth, the colostrum is in mom's

(19:27):
breast milk and that is what's given the baby its
initial immune system and helping it fight. And then we
talked about this a couple of weeks ago. You can
do raw milk for your baby and goat milk seems
to be the one more closest to mom's milk. But

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you can do cow milk or goat milk, either one,
and that way you know your baby's getting nutrition. Because
some moms like to store a bunch of milk and
they're pumping all the time, sometimes they don't have enough
milk for the baby when the baby wants it. A
lot of stress, a lot of things going on. The
memory PMG will help a lot with mom having enough milk.

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I've been down that road before, so a lot of
cool stuff here. And the big thing and the reason
all this came up was even though the guy is
not pregnant, he's going through all this too, and so
is all the family. So the better it is for mom,
the smoother the pregnancy, the smoother delivery, and the healthier

(20:38):
the baby when it comes out and starts going down
that road, so much better for everybody. And a lot
of the things we do in Western world medicine just
don't make a lot of sense. I don't know going
how far back they learn to tilt mama down towards

(20:59):
the floor. But this doctor that I learned that from,
she did that with her babies, and a made a big,
big difference, all right, Susie, anything you might have had
a baby or two along the way.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
Yeah, And I'm not interested or capable of anymore. You know,
I wish I had known these things, probably would have
had at least on the first one, you know, less
less trauma, you know, placenta separation, you know, pretending like

(21:36):
the world was come to coming to a screeching hall,
talking about emergency c section and there you lay, you know,
on a gurney, absolutely helpless, and they can do whatever
they want to you. As a matter of fact, you know,
I ended up delivering just shortly after they you know,

(22:00):
gave me whatever it was to knock me out. And yeah,
I wish I had no dates, especially with baby number one.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Did they at least have the decency to put in
a zipper for the second one?

Speaker 4 (22:24):
They should have, considering he was nine pounds with two teeth.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Wow. Yeah, and Mom's I remember Genie Olm explaining it
to the audience, and she was telling us how tough
it is on moms and being a mom and having
the baby. She knew, But when you tilt mom towards
the floor, and when you've given mom good nutrition for
her and that baby life so much better. So many

(22:51):
problems like what you described are because they give pre
natal vitamins from the pharmacy hospital and they are terrible.
I probably said this before, but my oldest daughter, her
best friend's dad was a baby doctor, gynecologist, all that

(23:15):
good stuff. And she went to see him and he
gave her a bottle of the pre natal vitamins and
she didn't say nothing. And she brought them to me
and she said, this is what he gave me. Are
they good? And I looked at him and there was
nothing good. You might as well have just ate the

(23:38):
bottle of plastic. There was just nothing good in there.
And so I told her, I said, these vitamins are terrible.
You don't want to take this. I'll take care of
you if you want. Well, she is a little bit
of a fireball, and she took them back to him
and said, my dad said these are trash. And to

(23:58):
this guy's credit, he said, well, you know what, we
don't study that the hospital wants us to give them out.
He said, I don't know anything about prenatal nutrition. And
he said if my dad was a doctor and that's
the kind of stuff he does, i'd listen to him.
So she did after that and she had two kids,

(24:21):
and both of them it was smooth sailing Bill anything,
Oh you can't keep doing that, Steve. Can you do
a thing with his microphone? Where we shocking? I know,
I know there's things we can do, static elastricity, through

(24:44):
the air something. Bill, We will get your attention.

Speaker 6 (24:48):
Oh yeah, my attention. This is this is an area
that is tell him to be on my certainly.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Certainly you've been around women that went through all the
horrors of having a baby, and if they suffer, everybody
around them suffers.

Speaker 6 (25:06):
When when that starts to happen, Bill disappears.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Oh, Bell, I wanted to tell you you you were
talking about growing up at a time when you turned
off the light switch when you left the room, and
I said, you know, I got to do better than that.
So I decided I'm going to turn the lights off
while I'm in the room. What do you think about that?

Speaker 6 (25:32):
Well, I guess we could acknowledge that you've been in
the dark for a while, so that whoa.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
He was ready when I needed him to talk. All
I got was a no. But I put a couple
of one liners out there, and he was sitting at
the plate waiting on me. All right, funny stuff, funny stuff.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
No, I was you know, I was pretty much a
happy camper when when I was pregnant. You know, the
first one it took, I was past due date, so
that was that didn't make me happy. I was uncomfortable.
But you know, mentally, you know, I think I was fine.

(26:15):
Really and truly. I had more problems with post partum
than I did being pregnant. I mean, for one thing,
at least towards the middle of my first pregnancy, I
ate the right things like chocolate chip cookies with cottage

(26:37):
cheese on them, so that helped. Mentally. I wouldn't recommend
it because it was chips ahoy, you.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Know, but you got to remember, when you're pregnant, your
body is telling you things, and I'm I'm glad you
brought a postpartum depression. One of the things with that
is drenomene for the adrenals and Serruda plus very important

(27:08):
for post martem depression. We hit it real heavy, I
mean like ten drenomen in a day and one of
the seruda plus three times a day for postpartum and that,
and then sometimes you need to simplex f and kind
of just get things balanced back out. And that's again,

(27:29):
that's the trouble with Western medicine. We've got all these
stupid diagnostic things and numbers and insurance codes, but we
don't do anything to help on that side of the coin.
Whereas for me, I'm helping make sure that after the baby,

(27:50):
mama's not depressed, you know. And you gotta remember, mama's
depressed because she just had a baby. Her whole system
has went through a train wreck and everything's out of balance.
So the modern Western world says, oh, she has depression,
let's put her on a medication. Well she's breastfeeding. Well

(28:13):
the baby's probably depressed too, and they do silly stuff.
But if you do things like drenamine and stimulate those
adrenals again and then the seruda, which is so important
for circulation and healthy blood flow and everything, we get
mama back to feeling good. And again, the reason all

(28:35):
this came up this week is when somebody's pregnant or
wants to get pregnant and they have the morning sickness
or the depression afterwards, are they're forced to lay on
their back and push that baby out, which is stupid
beyond belief. Everybody suffers. I've seen and heard of many

(28:58):
cases mama wanted to kill everybody around her when she
was having the baby or going through morning sickness, or
trying to get pregnant. And oh, when they're trying to
get pregnant, it's it's really rough because both the husband
and the wife start wondering what's wrong with us, and

(29:18):
usually it's nothing. It's just out of balance. And you
can't give a lot of the things that the modern
Western world wants to give and expect for a healthy baby.
And then God forbid that they do all them shots
in the hospital. I'm so proud of a lot of
parents that I've talked to in recent years and aren't

(29:42):
letting them give the kids all them shots anymore. Good.
And that's a great thing.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
All right.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
So anything Susie for we get ready to go to
break or bill.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Well, like on my second he had call it for
like ten or eleven months. You add nine months of pregnancy, yes,
you add postpart of depression. A nine pound baby with
two teeth that went to the dentist the first time

(30:13):
when he was eight days old because the baby doctor
was freaked out, and then call it for ten to
eleven months. For nearly two years, I wasn't a normal person.
And so it's not just being pregnant and then going

(30:34):
through delivery and then depression afterwards. But what if you
end up, you know, with a ginormous baby like I had, we.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Call it, yeah, well call it if my memory serves
me right, is usually a B vitamin deficiency and that
would have been taken care of in the pre when
we were looking at the nutrition requirements for mama. So

(31:05):
that's another one of those things that everybody knows about colic,
but they don't do anything about it. So a lot
we can do a lot of things we've learned. Like
I said, I've been really blessed. I had three or
four couples over the years who wanted to get pregnant
and have tried everything else. Came to me and they

(31:27):
got pregnant, and it was so cool. They would send
me a picture of the baby and just good that
you got to play a part in that and everybody
was healthy. All right, Bill, anything else before we go
to break?

Speaker 6 (31:43):
Yep, let you go.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
All right, I'm working on that shocker thing. All right, Well,
ladies and gentlemen, this is Doctor Cooper's Natural Health Hours.
It is October first, and the cold front is blowing through.
It was ninety nine when I walked in here. That's
my censor out in the sun. So it is trying

(32:06):
to get rid of them dog days of summer, and
I'm ready for it to cool down. Just a little
bit would be nice. We haven't had any rain in
a while, so but anyway, we've got Susie Bill Steve,
our producer behind the curtain, and myself and we will
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All right, We are back. Welcome back to doctor Cooper's
Natural Health Doers. It is October first. The cool weather
is just blowing through. Got my jacket hanging over here
and needed it earlier. Got down to ninety nine and
we have got Susie, Bill and producer Steve behind the

(36:47):
curtain and we are all here. We were just talking
about having a baby and the mom and all the
things she goes through, and morning sickness and trying to
get pregnant and the prenatal vitamins that are needed before her,
and how to have the baby with mom delivering with

(37:11):
herself tilted down, letting gravity help. That's what inversion tables
are nice for. You could tilted to the floor and
a lot less stress. Susie brought up postpartum depression and colic,
things that we can take care of, but they don't.
Susie suffered for months with that stuff and shouldn't happen,

(37:33):
but it does because they weren't doing the right things.
So anything, Susie or Bill before we go on, Susie anything.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
No, I choose to forget those days.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Bill, how about you?

Speaker 6 (37:53):
No, h this is not part of my experience.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah, yeah, it's ah. It can be really rough. I've
known many a guy that got his head ripped off
because mama was going through hell. And you know, there's
so many good things we can do and make make
having your child a good thing and helping with every

(38:23):
part of that aspect. And like I said, that's why
this came up this week, because it affects everybody's life.
It's not just mom getting pregnant and the husband, the boyfriend,
the family, whatever is around, they're gonna go through some hell.
If mom's going through hell, she can't help it. They

(38:44):
don't know what to do, and it gets pretty crazy.
All right, what have we got tonight? Do we got
some jokes? Of course, we probably have some jokes. Grandpa
was a family service, big old family reunion, and he

(39:05):
looked really, really sad, and he was drinking heavy. And
one of the people there, one of his grandchildren, came
up to say, Grandpa, what's wrong? Why are you drinking
so much? And he said, look around you, I'm responsible

(39:27):
for all this.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
That.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
He wasn't too happy. All right. So you know, you
go to the gym and it seems like every machine
that you want to use is always taken. And I've
been telling them they need more vending machines, but they
don't listen. All right, guy says his wife, Babe, I

(39:59):
am really this made me think of you Susie, and
she looks at him kind of puzzled. She said, what
are you sorry about? He said, I'm just trying to
get ahead of it, because Susie guys. Susie has famously
said many times that she knows what we're going to

(40:21):
do wrong before we even do it. So poor Huntley
don't have a chance. All right, The lady says, honey,
we've been married fifty years. Shouldn't we kill a cow
and celebrate? And the old man says, it ain't the

(40:45):
cow's fault. We ought to kill your brother. He introduced us,
I like that one. And then the lady said, honey,
if I was to run away with your best friend,
what would you do? Women love those questions like that,
And he said, does it have to be my best friend?

(41:08):
She goes, what difference does that make? And he said, well,
I wouldn't have nobody to celebrate with funny stuff. Susie said,
I get some of them on the dark web? What
else I got? What else I got? Oh, if you

(41:30):
have ever gone to the family reunion to meet women,
you might be a redneck. And if you ever cut
your grass and found a car, you might be a redneck.

(41:53):
And then here was a guy. This guy, he thought
he did good. He went out and bought new beds,
and when they were going to sleep that night, his
wife gave him the dirtiest, most evil, angry look she
could give him, And him, being a typical guy, he said,

(42:13):
maybe she's mad because she wanted the top bunk. I
like that one. That was funny. Only a guy would
do that. All right, this blonde, no offense, Susy, but
you are a blonde. This blond bought herself an AM

(42:35):
radio and it was six months later before she figured
out it played in the afternoon. Also that one.

Speaker 6 (42:48):
I like.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
The blonde jokes are funny. I don't know who made
them up, but they're funny.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
That's why there's no such thing as strawberry blonde jokes.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
You're right, all right. There was a study done and
they said nine out of ten husbands say their wives
are always right. The tenth husband hasn't been seen since
they did the study. All right, that's that's some good stuff.

(43:23):
I don't care what you say. Uh funny stuff, all right, Susie.
Uh anything on pregnancy, prenatal afterwards, breastfeeding jokes, anything.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
Yeah, then you get to go through the teenage years.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yeah, I always said, once kids learned to talk, they
learned to talk back.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
Yes, standard process has to have something for.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
That, Bill, how about you.

Speaker 6 (44:01):
Yeah, it's a kind of I've talked a little bit
about this in the last thir or three weeks, but
a couple of people I know have the daughters who've
been married and they have all of a sudden, you know,
they've got they've got two or three kids, and the
kids are now six or seven or eight, and somehow
being a mom has changed. And you know, when kids

(44:25):
are little, you can pick them up and hold them
and all that's kind of fun. And then as you say,
you know, when they learn to talk, they talk back.
And I think it's kind of a generational issue that,
you know, the idea of being a mom and having
a little kid is great, but they don't understand that

(44:47):
that's a twenty year commitment and all of a sudden,
by year seven or eight and this isn't such a
great thing anymore, and they're not even halfway through. And
I think the realization of that is it's very difficult,
but it's I think it's a different kind of a

(45:08):
different kind of the part postpartum the structure. But it's
it's certainly an evident one, and I think it happens
a lot more than than we've we've realized before. But it's, uh,
you know, it's just a generational thing that I really
begin to see in the last three years. And uh,

(45:30):
it's I don't I don't know if it's a maturity problem,
if it's just kids have no idea what they're getting injury.
They want so hard to be a family and fit
into the dream, and then reality slaps them up alongside there.
It's just not an easy out. You know, you're going
to have kids, you'd better think it through before you

(45:53):
get to it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Well, you know what I've noticed too, And I had
this in that book, how the communist Chinese are ruling
our world. And they talked about going after the mothers
years ago and convincing them instead of being proud to

(46:19):
be a mom and a wife and doing all the
functions with your kids and you know, being a stay
at home mom. They went and they were working, they
sat on brainwashing them forty fifty years ago, even that
they were being abused and mistreated and kept out of

(46:40):
the real world because they had to be a stay
at home mom, and so they've been working on them
for a long time, and it seems like when moms
were home it might have been a little tougher for moms.

Speaker 6 (46:54):
I have a.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Feeling, but I think the kids did better. And I
think like with some of the homeschool sufflex as he
did and his homeschool families. I've talked to the fact
that mom or dad one of the parents, but in
most cases it was mom was more involved with their

(47:17):
school life and home and doing all the things with
them that they were closer. And the public schools were
under that same brainwashing trying to teach the teachers to
go more and more woke slowly over all these years

(47:38):
that I actually believe they created a lot of friction,
tell kids things like, you know, you don't tell your
mom and dad this when you go home, and they
created problems. So if you don't see your kids a lot,
and that school gets a hold of them, it can
be a lot of trouble what I've seen over the years.

(48:00):
In that book, they brag about it. They say they
went after the moms, they went after the schools, they
went after the churches, and their goal was to slowly
destroy everything, but doing it very slow, like watching the
frog and the hot pot boil. So I think you're right, Bill,

(48:23):
about six or seven years they look around and thinking
you're still here. And you know, we've created a society
where we make mom feel bad, and I I'm hoping
that that's changing. But you know, there's so many broken
homes and in the inner cities they say one of

(48:47):
the worst things is the mothers have the kids and
the fathers are not around at all. That's tough. You
need a dad and you need a mom. I think
for a better home environment, there's things you learn from both.
And you learn a lot of things from your grandparents,

(49:08):
and they also support the family and help the kids
respect mom and dad. And I see a lot of
the public schools today, especially in these pig cities like
where I'm at, I don't think they're teaching the kids
the good qualities of moms that stay at home and
stuff that It's become very woke.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
Yeah, one of the problems right now is what I
think the term is. And someone can correct me if
I'm wrong, but it's along the lines of compassionate parenting.
And that's why you sit down and you reason with,
you know, a toddler or older you reason with to

(50:02):
correct bad behavior. And I'm sorry, you're not going to
reason with a toddler. You know, I didn't. I didn't
spank babies. Of course, I didn't spank. And when they
were like pulling up, you know, to the coffee table
or couch or whatever. But I did, you know, smack

(50:25):
the back of their hand lightly, like no, don't touch that,
you know. And so that's what I kind of liked
what Bill was talking about. You have to change as
the child grows. You have to change your techniques. It's

(50:50):
not it's a funny story, but it's not really funny.
So my son decided he was going to throw himself
in the floor and throw a I never did that,
my brothers, even my brothers never did that. I was
never around that. And I stood there and I thought, oh, hey,

(51:11):
o no. And so we were at home and I
told him no, you know, he couldn't do something or
just stop something. And he threw himself in the floor
in the living room and he started that crap, you know,
kicking the legs and slapping, you know, the hands on

(51:32):
the floor and I'm just going help me Jesus, And
the first thing that popped into my mind was to
do what he was doing. So I got down on
the floor and I started kicking my legs and slapping
my hands on the floor and pretend like crying, squalling

(51:55):
because he wasn't even really crying. And you know that
that was the last time that that kid ever did that.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
I love it. Yes, no, go ahead, No, I'm just
going to say, i's to tell my kids. When you're
a parent. First off, usually it's young parents, so you're
growing up, well, your kids are growing up, And I said,
you make a lot of mistakes. There's no rule book
on how to raise kids. Everybody thinks they know what

(52:27):
to do, but nobody does. And when you're young, you're
growing up with the kids and you're learning, and you
make mistakes. Sometimes you overreact and then you feel bad,
so the next time you don't react as much because
you felt bad from the last time, and you know,
maybe you're too strict or not strict enough. It's a

(52:50):
really tough deal. And especially if the kids are in
a public school in these giant cities where they've all
gone woke and they're teaching their kids not to tell
mom and dad stuff, and pretty soon the kids don't
respect mam and dad.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
So right now they don't. And it makes me think,
did all of these antifa and trans and burries that
identify as a cat and they must use a litter
box where they raised? Under compassionate parenting, I would say,

(53:28):
my kids are probably pretty lucky.

Speaker 10 (53:31):
You know.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
I would say, can I go to you know, spend
night with such and such, or go to so and
sell's party or you know, and I'd be twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
you know, sel fairly young, and my mother would say
no for some reason, you know that she didn't need

(53:52):
to explain. That's compassionate parenting. Sit down, let me tell you.
I'll want to explain my schedule and why you can't
go to this party. And my mother would always say,
because I said so and so I was watching and
I never no. I didn't like that. So I was
watching something and I don't remember, and it may have

(54:15):
been a sitcom and the kids are around the table
and they're not acting right, and you know, they're kind
of hypering out of control, and the parent, I think
it was a mother, said sit up straight, act right,

(54:39):
don't talk hateful, and a few more things, and she said,
this isn't a suggestion.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
So, yeah, we have to segue as we're as we're
raising kids. You know, I had four years and four
days between my two. I think personally that's too too
far out. It had its benefits and then it had
its drawbacks. So my daughter would be at school and

(55:17):
I still had my son at home. He was close
to getting into school but not yet. So you know,
I had and I used to think, why didn't we
wait until like our middle thirties or whatever to have kids?
And we were like twenty and and I think it's

(55:39):
great because my kids got grown up and out of
school and we weren't. We still weren't old fogies. But
my son, Yeah, we had problems from birth, Colleague, I'm
going to figure out how many ways I could throw

(56:01):
fits and then we uh, of course we would have
to go places and run run errands when he was
at work and Jennifer was at school. So we'd go
to the grocery store. Cot he'd be sitting up there
in the front, you know, the car, like where you
put the kids, and he would see something on the

(56:24):
shelf and he would want it. You know Apple Jacks
or candy bar or this or that. Well, that was
during that time of frame. You and I've talked about
it where I was ahead of the curb. I was
doing sea salt and I was doing olive oil, and
you know, I was finding sugar alternatives and getting dyes

(56:47):
out of food. You know, I was whole food cool
before uh you know most people I know. So he
was not say no, we're not getting that, we're not
getting that cereal. You can't eat that spag for you,
and he'd go with it, and I'd say, okay, let
me cut it out. This is you'll get one more warning.

(57:10):
And so he would go up it on something else
and I would take my cart to an employee and
I would apologize profusely and say, I told my son,
if he didn't change his tone, we were leaving and
I have to follow through on that, and I need

(57:31):
to take him out and deal with this, and I'm sorry,
I can't put everything up. And they smile real big
and go good playing, and I walked out. Well, of
course I'm going. I worked. My husband owns a swimming
pool business. I have, you know, a first grader, and

(57:52):
I really needed to get those groceries and get home
and get busy. But I had to make a point.
And it only took twice doing that, walking out of
the grocery store without his his fads, Mama approved fads
for him to quit that cup.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Yeah, it's it's a tough road, huh. I think being
a parent is very difficult, and you second guess yourself forever,
and everybody's got an opinion, but unless they're living in
your shoes, it really doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (58:30):
Well, I think I've talked to everyone out of contacting
you for you know, fertility help and prenatal help. But
the rewards are there too. The rewards are there when
you throw yourself in the floor and mimic the child

(58:51):
and he never does it again.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
I love that you didn't have to spank their butd
it's like you had to, you know, show your ass.
You know, one time you had to walk out of
the grocery store twice, But your kid learned to quit
arguing with you about you know, chunk food. And I
don't know, maybe that's I mean, I've seen people grab

(59:15):
their kids and smack the crap out of them, and
I thought it was a little easier because it worked
to just say no, really, then we're going home. We're
not getting any groceries them. I'm gonna have for dinner.
You're gonna have a oatmeal. Man.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Yeah, well what you did worked, thank god. Some people,
like I said, they're growing up. While the kids are
growing up, and they make mistakes and sometimes they overreact.
Sounds like you did pretty good. I'm sure I made
more mistakes. My biggest problem was when they became teenagers.

(59:54):
Oh my god, Right, that's when you start paying for
all your Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
But it's and it's funny. It's funny. Then, uh, and
do you do start paying for all your sins? And
that's that's where they growing up as a parent comes in.
You go back in your memory banks and you go, oh, please, Lord,
don't want get them be as wild as I was,
or you know, please let them be as you know,

(01:00:21):
respectful and you know, kind and compassionate. Respectful, kind and
compassionate doesn't really apply to teenagers, but it's possible.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Yeah. Well, I always said the greatest job a parent
has is to prepare their children to be in a
world where they're not loved like they are in their family. Right,
and if you if they're prepared for that, then you
probably did pretty good. Bill, How about you? This has
got to have a lot of things for you. I'm

(01:00:54):
sure you had many a parent come to you, even
if they didn't bring the kids with all kinds of troubles.

Speaker 6 (01:01:04):
Yeah. And as you you know, have have been saying,
it's just there's no answers to you know, there's there's
no book about how to do this.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
You just kind of have.

Speaker 6 (01:01:14):
To figure it out and realize that you're gonna do
better sometimes than others. And I kind of hope everything
works out. And uh, and just try not to hit them.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:01:28):
I always said, you know that the child parent relationship
changes dramatically when the kid gets big enough to hurt you.

Speaker 11 (01:01:36):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Uh, that's why you drag them behind the car until
you get tired.

Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
I'm just curious that Bill ever suggested to a parent, well,
if you're tired of the tantrums, get down on the
floor and have a tantrum with them and see what happens.

Speaker 6 (01:01:55):
No. I think that's great. No, I haven't ever heard
that before. My folks did have a close family friend
who was a physician. He's a surgeon, has three daughters
and the youngest one pulled the tantrum on and off,
and she was about five, I guess, or six, And
finally she was down on the floor, kicking, the screaming

(01:02:18):
and banging her head on the floor. And he just
grabbed her by the head, by the hair on the
back of her head and wrapped her head on the
floor real hard. And that was it. I never did
it again.

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She comes down from me up about.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
On a dark flat man.

Speaker 6 (01:06:04):
She rides.

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
On a pony she named Wildfire Whirlwind byes side.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
On a cold of breast canie.

Speaker 12 (01:06:39):
Oh, they say.

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
She did when the winter, when there came a killing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Frost and the pony she named.

Speaker 5 (01:06:55):
Wildfiree busted down stock.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
In a blizzard. She was doll. She ran gone.

Speaker 7 (01:07:18):
Gone w f cone.

Speaker 11 (01:07:28):
Far.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
All right, we are back, Welcome back to Doctor Grouper's
Natural Health dours. It is October first, and we've got
Susie Bill and producers Teve behind the curtain. And Bill,
I take it you do have a weekly topic up
your sleeve.

Speaker 6 (01:07:52):
Yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Okay, Well, I'm gonna play this little clip for you,
and I hope it's uh where it can be on
said and heard. I think it just might. Let me
pull it up here. I remember you talked about it
when you liked that song. So let's see what we
can do.

Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
And this is it.

Speaker 11 (01:08:26):
So I face the final cushion, my friend, I'll make
a clue. I'll stayed my case of which I'm sut,
I've life, that's fool, I've shaveled each and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
And more once more. I did it all right?

Speaker 13 (01:09:05):
Bill?

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Could you pick it up?

Speaker 6 (01:09:08):
Uh? Yeah, Frank did it better.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Him? All right? My friend take it away.

Speaker 6 (01:09:20):
Yeah, it's kind of following right along. But this has
come up several times and I thought need to kind
of talk about a little bit. And it has to
do with music, because I haven't talked about music for
a for a while. But you know, you talk about
the pieces that I like are way too long to

(01:09:41):
have on the show, and otherwise that's so, you know,
we have this shorter pieces. So thinking about that, there
seemed to be essentially after after many years of dealing
with this essentially too types of music. There there's short

(01:10:02):
pieces and there's long pieces. And I can talk about
the short ones first because there were here them more,
but what to call them because they're essentially they're they're
folk music. They're a ballad type, like the piece that

(01:10:24):
you played right after the break, where there's a kind
of a narrative or a story that's being told, or
as in a couple of weeks ago, when you talk
about the Scotsman who fell asleep and was peered at
by some passing young ladies. Kind of humorous stories that

(01:10:47):
folk music grew into over the years, and and i'm
America particularly, but they grew into blues, into jazz, came
out of a much much African music that came over
with the trade back in the nineteenth century, but grew

(01:11:08):
into Negro spirituals, what we call Negro spirituals, I don't
know what they call them anymore, but a wonderful body
of literature of music and how that all played out,
particularly in the South, and became became jazz, that became
rock and roll, that became whatever we got. And we've
kind of gone full circle with the origins of that

(01:11:30):
with with rap, but which is not one of my
favorite the mediums, but there it is what what makes
the difference between these these short pieces of music and
the and the longer pieces. To talk about the short
ones for a little bit, because most of the short
pieces that we hear, that you play, that we hear

(01:11:53):
on the radio.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
Are our.

Speaker 6 (01:12:00):
Driven their songs. And you know, when we use musically
we use the words song. We're talking about a vocal piece.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
Song.

Speaker 6 (01:12:11):
The words song does not apply to instrumental pieces. Those
are instrumental pieces, Okay, they're not songs. Songs mean that
there's singing going on, there's a vocal aspect to it.
And then in particularly with pieces like Wildfire, there there
is a narrative. There's a sense of a very kind

(01:12:33):
of simple poetry involved a lot of times as if
the piece you played and I the refrain, where there's
a four or five line refrain that recurs three or
four times throughout the piece that's separated by a little
more narrative, and then then the refrain comes back, and
then a little more narrative and then no more refrain.

(01:12:56):
It's uh, you know, if you think back to the
childhood rhymes that we learned, like Twinkle Twink a Little
Star and things like that. Very I don't like the
word simple because it has a negative context, but very

(01:13:16):
clean and easy and uncomplicated kind of verse structure, and
that's really what short music is all about. And when
I was thinking about this, I realized, of course that
when I use the term short music and long music,
I'm talking about two ends of a spectrum, and there's

(01:13:38):
a whole lot of stuff that goes on in between there.
Because there are very serious composers Schubert, Schumann, most Art,
bad who wrote leader who wrote songs? Okay, they're usually
for piano accompaniment, but the primary difference is that that

(01:14:01):
were the kind of songs that we're hearing on the radio,
of the popular songs of folk music. So much of
the lyrics were made up simultaneously, and this is certainly
true with a lot of rock music. The lyrics were
made created simultaneously with the music part of it, with
the background, with the film and the music. The background

(01:14:25):
music is again fairly unsophisticated, three or four chords, because
the point of that that idiom is not the background music,
it's the words, it's the lyrics. People like Mozart and
Beethoven took existing poetry jill Man, Schubert, all all the

(01:14:50):
way up into the twenties sis where they used existing
poetry written by the poets and set them to music,
and the the meter of the the rhythm of the
poetry was subordinated to the music. They were they were

(01:15:13):
equal parts. And composers typically look at the voice as
an instrument, and singers will very often talk about their
voice as an instrument. They call it, well, my instruments
off today, and as opposed to popular music folk music,

(01:15:35):
where the lyrics are in the more important aspect, and
the musical background is is very simple, three or four chords,
mostly three and in terms of of our of the
theory that tonic dominant subdominant chords once fours and fives

(01:15:55):
in the scale, and the classical with term classical composures
had had a much greater harmonic vocabulary than we see
with popular music. All of which is to say that
one is not better than the other, it's just different.

(01:16:18):
The whole point of music is that it provides a moment,
maybe a brief moment, but a moment away. It takes
us away from our everyday nonsense and takes us to
a different place. And with with rock pieces or blues
or jazz or the spirituals, it's it is. It's a

(01:16:44):
place to regroup and to get aggressive, maybe recurring error
if we listen to the same piece over and over again,
but whether it's Beathoven or or Jimi Hendrix, the point
is that it takes us to a different place for
a bit. And again, you know, we're looking at the

(01:17:08):
at the folk music, and particularly thinking about jazz. So
many of the performers and I don't think that this
is so much true anymore, but I've been away from it,
so I can't really say for sure. But many of
the performers were classically trained. Very few, well that's just

(01:17:31):
make bit. Very few performers we were self taught back Okay,
that's not true of rawkers or so. But with jazz,
you know a lot of these folks. And I'm thinking
particularly of a fellow back in the sixties and seventies
named Olscar Peterson who was trained as a classic pianist,

(01:17:56):
but he was a superb jazz musician, and that's what
he is known for. Comedian. Just his saying just got
away from me. It'll come in a moment. Who's who's
made a couple of a couple of movies. A British guy,
when we talked about it before, he was trained at

(01:18:20):
Oxford as a as a classical pianist, and he was
he would occasionally do the concerts that way, but he
was he made his living being a comedian. Dudley Moore
and you know so. But these these kinds of guys
are kind of arty between a lot of the popular
musicians are self taught. They're good, they understand their medium.

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It's a different kind of it's just a different kind
of music. So I see you're looking at an analogy.
They're trying to think of a way to put this.
You know, if I think about another art form like
pay we have small paintings, and there may be paintings
in are twenty by thirty inches or thirty by thirty inches,

(01:19:10):
fairly small, some by much smaller called miniatures, and they
were maybe six by six inches as opposed to the
larger paintings. And they have one that came to mind
that I talked about this guy before, Monet, French impressionist
painter who did a series of paintings called water Lilies,

(01:19:32):
and the paintings are like six feet by six feet,
six feet by eight feet. They're huge. Well, there's a
tremendous about more detail in these large paintings. The structure
very generally is the same. You know, we have we
have the interplay of color, of shape, our usual rhythm,

(01:19:59):
but the conceptual issues of a large painting. And again,
I know I've talked about Jackson Pollock, whose paintings were
sometimes ten by fifteen feet. It's a whole different kind
of way of looking at things and it's not as
I say, one's not better than the other, is not

(01:20:21):
worse than the other. There are great artists and musicians
in either category, and there's a lot of bad ones.
Fortunately they're not so good. Composers and performers are kind
of drift away. We don't hear from them anymore. But
the great ones we do remember. Primary difference that popular

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music is essentially vocal music. When thinking about the good
song that you played, I guess it was last week
in a sense that mimics an instrumental We don't have
very many purely instrumental pieces. One of the ones that

(01:21:06):
came to mind was from the movie Deliverance. Overrated film,
but the movie Deliverance and the Dueling Band Goes Okay,
which was a back and forth on Yankee duodl was
really one of the most popular cure the instrumental pieces
of the last twenty years that I can recall. I'm

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sure they're more, but most of the popular music, the
folk type music, is vocal as opposed to the longer pieces,
and the longer pieces off what I call abstract music.
And I use the term because they are if they

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are written purely for it's kind of a circular problem
for music, that it's not to project a text, it's
not to project a message that has to do a language.
Spoken language. Music is as they will argue, it's their

(01:22:17):
own language, but it's really music for its own sake.
We look at Beethoven, we look at Mozart, or Ravel
or way back or way way, way through, and the
abstraction is that it takes us again to the same place.
It's a moment away or forty five minutes away, or

(01:22:41):
an out or away. It takes us to a different place,
and it's just done. It's done differently, and it's much
more complex than folk music. You know, a lot of
folk music was surely vocal. If you think back to

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you know what we really mused to all folk music,
and there was no instruments at all. It was just
people singing, a person singing or two people singing. Occasionally
there was a fiddle or maybe a flute or maybe
a clarinet accompaniment, but mostly a fiddle. And the whole point,
again was the verbal verbal message, the verbal rhythm, the

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verbal aspect of it. All classical music, there's a lot
of classical music that has voices in it, but it's
the voices are treated very differently in longer music. They're
they're treated more instrumentally than they are lyrically. Yeah, the

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words are there, the same words are there. But when
when a composer would set a poet a poet's work
to a piece of music, words became repeated, phrases became repeated.

Speaker 4 (01:24:05):
The.

Speaker 6 (01:24:08):
Instrumentation of the voice was exampled, not only in textual changes.
They didn't add words, they just repeated words. But many
times just the vowel sounds or the consonant sounds of
the voice were what were important. The words were important,

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But how that sound that the human voice could make
in the vocalization of those words, That was the instrumentation.
You know, a clarinet has the capability, as knows, to
make many different kinds of sounds a trumpet does, the
violin does well. The human voice does too. And as

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they would set these things to music, these different different
lyrics to music, regulous poems or arts of the the
Roman mass, for the Anglican mass, whatever, how the sounds
produced by the voice were as important as the sounds

(01:25:14):
that the instruments made. Again, much more complex, the harmonic
structure was much more I don't particularly want to use
the word sophisticated, but I'm going to say sophisticated, much
more varied. It's the bigger painting. There's a lot more detail,
there's a lot more places to go with it. You know,
if you're cooking in a piece of music that's ten

(01:25:37):
minutes long, well minutes long, maybe fifteen minutes long, you
don't have the time to get into all the detail.
If you're looking at in a piece that's forty minutes
forty five minutes long, it's very different how pieces are
strung together. You know, Betho and you know I look

(01:26:00):
at we look at the symphonies, and we take the
fifth up up. Okay, that's the first movement. The second
movement takes that same ridden pattern. It is much slower
and it goes down dot com bought up dot dumb
but sagorhythm, different speed, different accent. It's a whole different thing.

(01:26:24):
But we at some level know that it's connected. Of course,
if you're a music student, you have to analyze the
work and look at it critically. You understand that at
about two minutes, but it's or maybe not two minutes,
but maybe one minute. But it's Still it's a very
different kind of approach, and it's it's a longer approach.

(01:26:45):
There's a longer moment away, and it's not for everybody.
Doesn't make it better, it doesn't make it worse. You know,
there's a lot of jazz that I just can't listen
to because it's boring. I find it. I shouldn't say
it's boring. I find it boring. I find it tedious,
I find it predictable, and it's uninteresting to me. Somebody

(01:27:10):
else might find those same pieces absolutely fascinating, and I think, again,
this comes back to we're all different. We all filter
everything through our own experience, whether it's hearing or visual,
or whether we actually have some kind of predisposition to
some kind of cultural hitting that we may not even

(01:27:32):
be aware of. All we all look at things individually
and independently, and that's the beauty of it. There's a
lot of rock that I don't like. There are some
fine pieces that we're prayed and were produced and still are.
I guess I don't listen to it anymore because I

(01:27:54):
can't hear it. But it has to do with my
own racial vocabulary and what we like or what we
don't like fluctuations and changes just says our own behavior.
Fluctuations change the short pieces of long pieces, abstract music,
functional music, and there's a whole lot of stuff in

(01:28:17):
between those two poles. The Broadway plays the musicals, some
fine time music came out of those things. Opera is
kind of a blend of all that stuff, just a
whole lot of crossover in there that's not one or
the other, and it's all basically again, an experience of

(01:28:42):
a moment away, of a moment to kind of regenerate,
to escape from our daily nonsense and to hopefully look
at things a little bit differently. But anyway, there we
goes so much for shorts and lungs.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
Good stuff. I love music, AllMusic, and I'm so jealous
of the people that can do all of it. It
just I love I just love it. But I'm I
don't understand how you can write a song that's to
me that's so cool, and those those great compositions that

(01:29:22):
are a couple hours long that you talk about, that's
some talent beyond belief. I think music is a really
cool thing and I wish I could have got more
into it as a young kid.

Speaker 4 (01:29:35):
So is he anything, no fabulous stuff like always.

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
Yeah, and music's been Bill's world for a long time,
so who better to talk about all those different things?
Because like that, I listened to a lot of stuff.
I even found a blues song today when I was
looking for music that I might play one of these

(01:30:04):
weeks that I liked. It was just different. Normally I
don't listen to much jazz or blues, but this one
grabbed me a little bit. That's the way music's been
for me. All Right, Well, I guess we're at break. Susie,
you got some recipes up your sleeve. I got one, okay,

(01:30:25):
that sounds great. And when we come back, we've got
a little clip for you too. Before we do, let
you do your things. So, ladies and gentlemen, this is
Doctor Groupa's Natural Health Hours. It is the October one
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Speaker 7 (01:31:57):
I don't believe it that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
No touch Hey ray, he show tell him who we are? Well,
we big rock singers. We got golden fingers and we're
everywhere we go out like us.

Speaker 14 (01:32:14):
We sing about beauty and we sing about you at
ten thousand dollars a show.

Speaker 13 (01:32:19):
Right, we take all kind of feels to give us,
all kind of frills, But the thrill we never know.

Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
It's a thrill that I'll get you when you get s.

Speaker 13 (01:32:30):
Bit your on the cover of the Rolling Stone, Rolling Stone,
I want to see my picture on the cover.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
Start born five five copies for my mother.

Speaker 14 (01:32:41):
I want to see my smiling face on the cover
of the Rolling Star, I said, very good idea.

Speaker 12 (01:32:52):
I got a freaky old lady mar Cruise on.

Speaker 4 (01:32:57):
My juice, I got my pool, great haired daddy.

Speaker 10 (01:33:02):
I'm driving my limos.

Speaker 14 (01:33:04):
And now it's all decide to blow our minds, but
our minds.

Speaker 7 (01:33:10):
Won't read it be blown.

Speaker 13 (01:33:13):
The blow that'll get your when you get sharp that
you're on the cover of the Rolling Stone.

Speaker 7 (01:33:19):
Rolling Stone.

Speaker 13 (01:33:20):
I want to see that peck just on the cover
five five comics froll O, mother Stone.

Speaker 14 (01:33:27):
Don't see my smiling face on the cover of the
Rolling Stone.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
And I don't have a rock rock all right? We
are back. And what's this mushy stuff I just read
over there? I don't quite understand that. Can you translate
that for me? Susy that song?

Speaker 4 (01:33:55):
I haven't heard that in forever?

Speaker 1 (01:33:56):
Yeah, that's what I'm looking in. Uh what do you
call it? The chat? And I saw musch of stuff?
I don't know anyway. We are back, Welcome back to
doctor Cooper's Natural Health hours. And I think our producers

(01:34:17):
teasing me a little and behind the curtain. But we
got Susie and this is the time of show where
we like to help her with the name of the
show because tequila and t for her just don't mix well.
So I'm pretty sure that the name of the show
is Radiating and discharging construction.

Speaker 4 (01:34:37):
It's close are it's renovation and design construction. We do
remodel and new construction. You can go to dot creeper
dot com. Go to the about page. Well down you'll
see a link that'll take you to our website and

(01:34:58):
we can be reached at a three zero three seven
seven two one three one.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
All right, well, we got a little clip for you
and then we'll jump right into your recipes because I
had to have a clip for you, so let me
see if I got it. Oh there it is.

Speaker 10 (01:35:25):
Drinking beer and cabaret and I having fun until one
night she caught me right, and now I'm on the run.
Lay that pistoo down. They lay that pistoo down. Pistoo
packing mama, Lay that pistoo down. She kicked down my
winds shoes. He hit me over the his seat, cushing

(01:35:49):
guide ins, I lie and we.

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
All right, we're back. Pistol pucking mama just they led
me to you, says he, yeah, take it away.

Speaker 4 (01:36:05):
Okay. So I have talked about iron corn flour. It's
an ancient grain and it's it can be tricky, you know,
to work with because it's a little bit different, you know,
with your liquid to flour ratio than you know your
modern wheat flour. So I'd like to bring up a

(01:36:30):
iron corn specific recipe every now and then. And this
one's fabulous. I love this recipe and it is English muffins.
And so this is just plain English muffins. You could
add whatever you wanted. You could add you know, some
dried blueberries or dried cranberries, dried cherries even or you know, raisin,

(01:36:56):
raisin and cinnamon. But this is going to be your basic.
So three and a half cups of pink worn flour
and then a little extra for dusting, a teaspoon of
good Celtic sea salt, and then two teaspoons of instant yeast.

(01:37:17):
Then you got your wet ingredients. And just for those
who may not know, I like to draw my yeast
in the fridge. It just lasts longer. So a cup
of warm milk about one hundred and ten degrees two

(01:37:37):
tablespoons of butter melted a tablespoonful of honey or maple syrup.
I particularly like it with the honey, but either way,
and then you're gonna need one large egg. And of
course we all know English muffins have that texture to them,

(01:37:57):
and that's because of the corn meal, and so you
could use an English muffin pan, or you could just
use a cookie sheet and alignment with u porch paper.
So in a small bowl, you're gonna put your warm

(01:38:18):
milk in your honey and don't let it be over
one hundred and ten degrees and then you're gonna stir
it and you're gonna let it sit for like five
minutes and it'll become very frothy, bubbly, if you will,
because that yeast just begins to really feed on that

(01:38:38):
honey or maple syrup and then the dough. It's so simple,
Bill or Dot could do it. In a large bowl.
You're gonna mix together your your pine corn flour and
your salt, and then you're gonna add your yeast mixture,

(01:38:59):
you your melted butter, and then you're beaten egg, and
then you're just gonna mix this until it kind of
forms it'll be a sticky, sticky dough. Cover it and
let it rise for about sixty to ninety minutes and

(01:39:20):
till it about doubles, and then you're gonna shape your muffin.
One good thing to have is like a three inch
wide cookie cutter, and then you're going to press your
dough out to about three quarters of an inch and

(01:39:43):
then use that cookie cutter and you can put it.
Then you put your your muffins on your prepared baking sheet,
and then you're gonna sprinkle the corn meal on the

(01:40:10):
baking sheet, and then you're gonna let these muffins are
sat for about thirty minutes. I would I would cover
them with a clean kitchen towel, and then you'll have
to heat up an oven for this. So you could
use like a cast iron griddle or skill it and

(01:40:34):
then grease it lightly with butter and then put these
English muffins onto that hot surface and then cook them
about six to seven minutes per side, and and and
flip them gently to keep their shape. You could use

(01:40:59):
a spot well, you could use a you could use
a spatula and then and use the fork to kind
of keep it steady. Is what I'm trying to say.
And then if the if the muffins brown too quickly,

(01:41:22):
you can transfer them to your oven at three hundred
degrees for about five minutes to make sure that your
inside is well cooked. So you might go ahead pre
preheat that oven and be ready for it in case
you do need to to go ahead and put them
in there, and then you can serve them, you know,

(01:41:46):
put them on a wire rack and let them rest
for about ten minutes before you slice them so they
don't just fall apart because they're so fabulous. And then
you you can serve him right after that ten minutes
or you know, the leftovers. This makes about eight to

(01:42:08):
ten English muffins, so it says, and so your leftovers
you can always cut them and toast him in a
toaster or a toaster oven. And then it's pretty simple
to have fresh, quality, healthy English muffins.

Speaker 1 (01:42:29):
You think, Bill, by now we would have taughtter a
quit saying it's easy enough for us to make.

Speaker 6 (01:42:36):
I don't think that'll ever happen.

Speaker 1 (01:42:38):
Yeah, I think you're right. Well, let me do a
little clip for our producer Mushy, as he's noted in
the chat room. Real quick a little clip for him
so he don't feel left out. So just one second. Soyes,
your recipe sounded delicious. Now I'm hungry. All right, here
we go. This is for our producers. Steve, I.

Speaker 12 (01:43:43):
Astairs time tam sing all the time, I got basics.

Speaker 1 (01:44:21):
All right, we are back that I had to have
a little clip. I heard that today when I was
looking around, and I figured that was a song that
Steve would remember, and like, I think that was popular
around nineteen seventy, Black Seventh and Iron Man.

Speaker 4 (01:44:40):
So I get really tired of that mushy music. I
have to agree with Steven.

Speaker 1 (01:44:47):
That's all I need. What was mushy tonight? What was mushy?

Speaker 4 (01:44:54):
I'm being smart Aleck, that's thing.

Speaker 1 (01:44:57):
Yeah, I think I got I got all three of
them against me, Ladies and gentlemen. It's just not fair.
I'm sure I've committed a few million sins, but it's
just not fair. Oh all right, So anything susy that
you would like to throw out there, We've got plenty
of time.

Speaker 4 (01:45:17):
M Well, all I can say is if they want
to take your gull ladder called doc and don't let
them do it. She is.

Speaker 1 (01:45:34):
Telling you, because why.

Speaker 4 (01:45:36):
Sissy, Because your liver has to pick up the slack
and it wears it out.

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
But why, I guess my question was, what are you
trying to tell them that you've had that experience?

Speaker 4 (01:45:54):
Yes, I am.

Speaker 1 (01:45:58):
Yeah, We'll probably a whole show on that one night,
and let Susy tell you her story. Pretty interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:46:07):
I'm glad you see it is interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:46:11):
Well, yeah, I do. It's very common, a lot more
common than people would like to think. And it's because
of the system, the same system that lays a woman
down to tell her to push and push and push,
when you could tilt her towards the floor and let
gravity help. You got to wonder about modern Western medicine.

(01:46:37):
Somehow they missed the boat, but they know how to
count the money. There was a.

Speaker 4 (01:46:44):
There was this series on TV well and it was
I think out of Canada. It's about a bunch of daughters.
So I can't remember the name of it. But one
of the women went in was going into labor, and
she went outside and she spread her blanket out and

(01:47:07):
she had her help there and she did it I
guess Indian style, where she literally hugged a tree and
squatted and someone was there to be the catcher. And
I was like, hum, I don't think I could take

(01:47:27):
it that far.

Speaker 1 (01:47:29):
Yeah, that would be tough. But you know, when doctor
Genie Ohm taught us that all those years ago, it
made so much sense. And her and her husband had
done that at their home and had their children that
way made it so much easier, because the childbirth part

(01:47:54):
is rough, especially when you're laying flat on your back
and being told to push.

Speaker 4 (01:47:59):
Well, you try not to be a conspiracy theory theorist
and think, are they trying to set you up for
a difficult delivery so that oh my gosh, we've got
to do a C section.

Speaker 1 (01:48:15):
Yeah, either that or Bill Gates was involved and he
don't want you to having a bunch of kids. I
saw a show with him the other day and he
said that we really don't need people, We just need
a few for entertainment.

Speaker 4 (01:48:33):
And I thought, yeah, I would have something to say
to him, we need a few lefts like you. What
were your parents thinking?

Speaker 1 (01:48:42):
Well, evidently his parents must have taught him that stuff
and they must have believed. And I got the feeling
the way he was talking that he felt like the
rich elite were oded and Earth without the rest of
us on it.

Speaker 4 (01:49:00):
So I don't know such a statement coming from such
a but ugly man.

Speaker 1 (01:49:07):
Did you see the chat Room City?

Speaker 4 (01:49:10):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:49:10):
Iron Man from Black Sabbath falls into that category.

Speaker 4 (01:49:15):
No. I think if I can find someone who works
on computers, I might have to take mine to him.
I'm on my phone now, Oh thanks to producer Steve.

Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
Yeah, well you you might need to take him your
computer because last time it heated up just a little hot.

Speaker 5 (01:49:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:49:38):
I don't know if it's the battery or if it's
the after market slow boat from China charging cord.

Speaker 1 (01:49:47):
Now is yours Apple or Windows?

Speaker 4 (01:49:52):
It's an Apple, but I've got a Dell and it's ginormous,
and the guys used it for nothing but go pro editing,
and so you know it needed some big memories or
whatever it had to have. I would have to go

(01:50:13):
in literally and set up everything zoom, my recipe, side
my rumble, And for like three weeks I haven't really
felt like it. Yeah, I bet I'm probably gonna have
to do that this weekend. Just bite the bullet.

Speaker 11 (01:50:34):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:50:35):
I remember when my computer was dying and I had
back then we were using that other software for the show,
and I had to go put all that stuff back
in and set it all back up. It was a nightmare.

Speaker 4 (01:50:49):
Well this isn't as bad. But getting used to a
Windows machine to me is like trying to figure out
how left handed people do things, because for me, a
Windows machine is like a left handed gadget and Apple

(01:51:09):
is a common sense gadget.

Speaker 1 (01:51:11):
Yeah, well I've never used Apple, so I would it
would be the other way around for me. How about you, Bill?
Have you ever used Apple? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:51:20):
When I was living in Colorado, worked with a guy
who'd been in uh uh, the cryptology in the Navy.
We were talking about computers and he said an Apple.
Apple was really the only computer on the market that
any anything. Everything to do with Windows has just been

(01:51:41):
cobbled on to the original and it's just a mess.
It's just been change after change after change, and they
never really start over. They just keep adding stuff onto it.
But he said, Apple's got it really simple. And yeah,
I had an in California, had an Apple and it
works just fine.

Speaker 1 (01:51:59):
How about you, Steve, So, are you familiar with both
Windows and Apple? Are there?

Speaker 5 (01:52:11):
Bill?

Speaker 6 (01:52:13):
I'm here?

Speaker 1 (01:52:14):
I said, are you? Are you familiar with both the
Apple and the Windows? You've used both?

Speaker 6 (01:52:23):
Are you talking to Steve or me. I'm sorry you, Steve,
I was a said something. I haven't used Apple for years,
twenty years, but it was it was It was really
the first computer that I had any experience with. And
it was fine. It was fine. It just they just
didn't have a lot of the stuff that I needed.
They didn't have a they didn't have a good drafting program,

(01:52:45):
they didn't have a lot of stuff that at that
point I was interested in. So switched over the Windows.

Speaker 4 (01:52:52):
Yeah, and that's why, exactly why we got the Dell
for the GoPro editing. You know, you would have to
spend gosh seven or eight dollars on the big old
desktop Apple, I think to be able to do that
kind of stuff, and we just we couldn't do it. Well,

(01:53:13):
my Apple's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:53:16):
Well, what kind of stuff for you doing? Bill that
you did a lot of graphics?

Speaker 6 (01:53:22):
Uh, we used the autocab. Working for an engineering company,
I was.

Speaker 4 (01:53:26):
A Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:53:29):
I did a lot. I did a lot of drafting
for him, but primarily I was a drafting checker that
after that, after all the drawings were done, I went
to you and to make sure all the numbers added up. Right?

Speaker 1 (01:53:39):
Wow, is there anything you haven't done. I mean, I'm
not sure if you were running from the law, but
you've lived everywhere and done every kind of job I
can think of.

Speaker 6 (01:53:55):
I've never been in a septic business, eptic tank cleaning business.
I'm sure he dealt with enough my life.

Speaker 1 (01:54:01):
So you've done a lot of things. And in the
middle of all that music. Wow, pretty impressive. And then
you told me that you were the like the everything
at some friends hotel or something like that, you did everything.

Speaker 6 (01:54:21):
Oh yeah it was. I ran the maintenance end of
it for a season.

Speaker 1 (01:54:26):
Wow, I'm impressed. All right, guys, Well, anything else, Susie.
We've got a few minutes so you can close something out,
Producer Steve. If you wanted to jump in with any
comments on Windows versus Apple, jump right in. We'd love
to hear from you. I guess he's still tied up

(01:54:51):
back there feed and casts funny. All right, Well, anything
Susy for we start.

Speaker 6 (01:55:03):
Wrapping things up, seating cats.

Speaker 1 (01:55:11):
Yeah, she left us too, Bill. Anything you'd like to
close out, anything you'd like to talk about anything at
it all, anything, whether it's tonight or anything.

Speaker 6 (01:55:21):
Yeah. I came up a while ago. I had a
earlier in the week, A cat sitting in my lap
and jumped off, and it reminded me of a book
that we talked a lot about when I was a
sophomore in high school, and the book was called Revenge
of the Tiger by Claude Balls.

Speaker 1 (01:55:45):
Susie, you're back. Where were you? We're just talking to
you a minute ago.

Speaker 4 (01:55:49):
Well, you know, zoom is different on the phone than
it is on the computer. And I'm sitting here going, okay,
I can't get to you know myself. How do I
get to myself to unmute myself? And so I figured
it out that, yeah, I wasn't ignoring. I heard everything

(01:56:11):
else said, but.

Speaker 11 (01:56:14):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:56:14):
I don't have anything really to add other than thank
you for taking such good care of me.

Speaker 1 (01:56:24):
You're most welcome, But I think you give me a
lot more credit than I deserve. Bill, you didn't hang
up on me tonight. I'm really grateful.

Speaker 6 (01:56:35):
I sure can, Susie.

Speaker 1 (01:56:39):
Don't encourage him.

Speaker 4 (01:56:41):
That was pretty funny.

Speaker 1 (01:56:44):
Don't encourage him. Yeah, he's he's always got some quick
one liners. If you notice that he must write him
down during the week. But he's he's witty, kind of
quick comeback for a lot of things, and so does
our producer Buddy. He's got some funny stuff in the
jet room there. Kind of interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:57:06):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:57:07):
The last, the last thing I would have ever thought
was an adjective of mushy for any of the songs. Uh,
that's funny. And especially Black Sabbath. They were big when
probably I think, like in the seventies, I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 4 (01:57:30):
I never I never listened to that. Probably the most
I listened to has been probably the worst would have
been led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd.

Speaker 5 (01:57:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:57:48):
I remember. There was a lot of groups when we're
growing up, everything from the old rock and roll, like
the Animals and question Mark and the Miss Steians and
h the Beatles and the Monkeys, and I mean there
was a lot of groups. And I love all the

(01:58:09):
old Motown stuff that was great before we had rap.

Speaker 4 (01:58:15):
Yeah. I like Motown a lot, a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:58:18):
Of good stuff, a lot of armadizing. And I never
got into blues and jazz as much. I was down
in New Orleans one time and heard a lot of jazz,
and I think jazz and blues seemed to be kind
of close. I never was a metallica kind of guy, though,

(01:58:45):
So all right, Well, We're just about there, guys. Interesting,
show fun. I love the place.

Speaker 11 (01:58:55):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:58:55):
I don't know if you or Steve did it or both.

Speaker 4 (01:58:58):
But Steve did at this time, and I really appreciate him.
Flat For the last three weeks, it's been.

Speaker 1 (01:59:08):
Yeah, yeah, Susy died two or three times over the
last couple of weeks and we just told her walking off.

Speaker 6 (01:59:17):
But thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:59:18):
It looks it looks really cool. You guys must think
a lot when you do this stuff, though, because I
can't never tell which one of you did it. But
pretty interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:59:28):
That's scary, and I.

Speaker 1 (01:59:32):
Can't picture Steve doing one about prenatal all that without
looking at me like I was crazy. But like I said,
the main reason all that came up was from the
guy's point of view and the family point of view
of what the women go through, everybody else around them

(01:59:53):
goes through. So the happier we make mama or the
mama to be happier, everybody is going to be around them.
And unfortunately, with western medicine we don't address that stuff
very good. Hell, when we were kids, our mom smoked
and drank and we all turned out almost right. We

(02:00:21):
drank out of the water hose and you know, stayed
outside until we had to come in. We did a
lot of crazy stuff, all right, guys, Well, it is
that time of night. I am so grateful for producer
Steve Bill and Susy. Without them, this show would not
be anything like it is. We had I think nine

(02:00:43):
or ten nations listening to us, pretty good numbers people
all around the world. And every week I see a
different device that somebody listened on, and some of them
I have no idea what they are, but very cool
stuff and a lot of fun. We thank all of

(02:01:06):
you everywhere for listening. We're grateful, We're humbled, and I'm
sure you appreciate this team like I do. A great,
great group we got here and then everybody fits a
part of the puzzle as this works wonderful. So anyway,
may God bless you all with happiness, health, keep your

(02:01:28):
lives peaceful, free and safe. And as you know, it
is that time at my cuckoo clocks agree for good Scotch,
good cigars, at good.

Speaker 4 (02:01:42):
Night, good at all you're know everyone, God bless.

Speaker 15 (02:01:49):
Seems the love I've known has always been the most
destructive kind. I guess that's why now I feel so old.

Speaker 1 (02:02:00):
Before my time.

Speaker 15 (02:02:03):
Yester day, when I was young, the taste of life
was sweet as rain upon my tongue. I teased at length,
as if it were a foolish game, the way the
evening breeze may tease a candle flame. The thousand dreams

(02:02:26):
I dream'd, the splendid things I plann'd, I always built
to last on weakened, shifting sand.

Speaker 1 (02:02:36):
I lived by night and.

Speaker 15 (02:02:38):
Shunned the naked light of day. And only now I
see how the years ran away yesterday, when I was young,

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