Dr. Kroupa's Natural Health Hours 11-19-25 with Doc, Suzi, Bill and Producer Steve

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Speaker 2 (02:45):
Welcome everybody to Doctor Cooper's Natural Health Ours. We are
so happy to have the whole group back. Bill has
rejoined us after his vacation, and we've got Suzzy. We've
got Bill, and we've got producer Steve behind the curtain
and myself. We are all here. It is November nineteenth.

(03:06):
It is blown through like crazy, and it just amazes
me that it's already gone. Somebody said the other day
that Walmart wanted them to wear their trick or treat
outfit while they shop for Thanksgiving and Christmas. That's how
crazy things are that they're always worried about retail. But anyway,

(03:28):
we're all here. We're glad you're here. We had twenty
I think it was twenty six different nations last week
when I looked, so, we are so grateful. You guys
are tuned in, and let's go ahead, and Susie and Bill,
you guys would like say hello, go ahead, Susie.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
Good evening everyone, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 6 (03:51):
Any hooks all right?

Speaker 2 (03:53):
At Bill, we were talking last week. We ended up
and we didn't do it on purpose, but we had
a full music segment without our music man, and we
don't know how that happened, but we missed you. Everybody
missed you. So we're glad you're back. What we got

(04:14):
tonight before we jump into leukemia. And this week I
brought this up because of some things I saw posted
a couple things that just irritate me, and I guess
I need to vent a little bit. I keep seeing
people begging for our money on the news. Everybody wants

(04:39):
you to give to the charity, and unfortunately, I think
too many of these people running charities make a lot
of money. Point in case, there is a group that
wants to give the two different religious groups, and they
show these very sweet elderly Russian Jewish women in miserable,

(05:03):
horrible conditions and ask you to give a certain amount
of money every month, and they have to pay for
those commercials. Those aren't free. That costs a lot of money.
And at the end of the commercial, and I guess
you're not supposed to notice, it says, if you buy

(05:24):
a meal today, we'll send two. And I'm thinking, all right,
quit wasting your money on these stupid commercials and send
them a meal. You know, you're telling us buy one
and you'll send one. But are there some other ones
that they want to send you this nice quilt or

(05:46):
a gift box. So they're paying for commercials and to
send you all that stuff when they could just give
money and shut up. And you know, I have my
brothers in a wheelchair, so he gets a little bit
of my help. And I don't mind helping anybody that
needs it, but I don't think we need to be

(06:07):
doing TV commercials about it. And they all want to
pat themselves on the back, all these different companies. And
something else that really irritated me this week is these
companies that want you to buy from them because of
their color, are their gender which a lot of them

(06:30):
don't know today, or if they're a veteran, or their religion.
I care about none of that stuff. When it comes
to buying a product, I want good customer service and
a quality product at a fair price, and you'll get
my business. But I'm not going to shop with you

(06:52):
because of any of those other things. Have you You know,
I'm a veteran and I have never asked anybody to
give me anything because I was a veteran. And when
I was in the active duty Navy, I used to
give my two weeks notice on a regular basis because
I did not want to work there no more. But
it was a good experience and I'm glad I did it.

(07:14):
But that was the joke. We used to give a
two week notice on a regular basis. But just telling
me that you're a veteran, or you're a certain color
or a certain religion or your certain gender that we
should buy from you does not work for me. And
I may be in the small group. I don't know,
but that irritates me beyond belief that. The only thing

(07:37):
that irritates me more is in politicians that pretend that
they're doing stuff for us, And Bill put it best,
when they get elected, all they do is run for
re election after they get elected. All right, enough of
my rants. Is there anything you want to add to that?

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Oh, I couldn't agree more. And yeah, it's a rampant
people are struggling and then they're out there begging for
money and doing the uh. Oh, I'm kind of a
subtle guilt trip.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah. Every place I go, when you check out, now,
they want to know, do you want to give to
this charity? I tell them no. And then the people
like it Kroger that have that self checkout, I've told
the managers. I said, you know, if you guys were
paying us to use that or giving us a discount,

(08:36):
it would be different. But I'm not going to go
over there and use that and then you lay off
some checker because we're doing all the work for you
and we're not getting paid. That ain't happening, all right, Bill,
anything on that?

Speaker 6 (08:52):
Yeah, one of the questions I don't because I don't know.
You don't how often I answer my phone, so I
don't get calls anymore from people want money. But I
used to ask them what percentage of my donation would
go to administrative cost? Well, if I gave you one

(09:15):
hundred bucks and eighty bucks, I it's going to support
the administration of your charity. No, not going to do it.
But most folks had no idea how much of what
percentage of a donation to actually administering the charity, and
how much of it actually wound up in the pockets

(09:36):
or the hands of the people that they were trying
to support.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Oh yeah, and you know it's like the politicians. Everybody
thinks we're stupid. You know, they're on there paying for
a TV commercial and then begging for money. But they're
all getting rich. And when they admit that will send
one meal if you buy another one, well I'll just
send the first meal and shut up. You know, I

(10:02):
don't know. They drive me nuts. Producer Steve, anytime you
ever want to jump in with stuff like this, go
right ahead. You're most welcome, all right. Oh and one
last thing. I get these things all the time about
the sale ends tomorrow at midnight, and then the same

(10:24):
one will pop up next week. The sale ends tomorrow
at midnight. Give me a break, So I'm not buying
from those people. Okay, Well, leukemia. The reason this came
up is there's always people wearing a placard that says

(10:45):
I have this disease and you can't fix it, and
it's almost like they're proud. Sometimes maybe it gets some attention.
I don't know what's going on in their head. That's
more doctor Bill's department. But too many times you turn

(11:06):
on the TV and they will tell you if it
comes from the pharmacy, we can say we can cure
you with it, whether it's killing you or not. But
if it doesn't come from the pharmacy, you cannot claim
that it does anything. And we've read the labels on

(11:28):
the bottles of stuff many times and it always says
the same ridiculous stuff about this product is not intended
to cure, he'll help treat or anything. And the FDA
has not approved it. Well, that makes me always feel

(11:49):
better known the FDA has not got their hands in there.
But a lot of people see that stuff and so
they think there's nothing I can do. Leukemia is one
that I see pop up a lot and people saying,
you know, please pray for me, or we're doing a
GoFundMe or whatever, and it's for something like leukemia. And

(12:14):
there's a lot of things that have proved themselves over
the years. And in case anybody doesn't know, because Bill
reminds me from time to time, that sometimes I forget
to explain things that I'm thinking that maybe other people
didn't know what I was talking about. Leukemia is kind
of a blood cancer, and when they do a blood test,

(12:39):
if your platelets drop below I forget what the lab
number is, but it's like one hundred and fifty thousand
or whatever thing they're looking at, then they start thinking
you might have cancer. And the platelets are very important
so that we don't bled to death, so that we
don't cut and just keep bleeding, and they're very important.

(13:04):
You've probably heard of vitamin K very important to help
your blood clotting when platelet's very important. So what happens
with leukemia is a lot of people get this and
they do all them horrible treatments that I think are
worse than the disease. So one of the things I

(13:29):
like to tell people there was a doctor, see if
we have his name anyway, He lived in the Midwest,
and he had three children who got leukemia. And so
what he did is looked at vitamin T. And you

(13:55):
don't hear that ever, because the government didn't like the name.
But vitamin T is termites, that's where it comes from.
It comes from mealworms. So the first two there not
too many people are gonna want. I mean, if there

(14:15):
was nothing else, you might, but that's not what you're
gonna want. But fortunately for us, sesame seed which can
be made into an oil or a butter. It's got
the natural vitamin T. It's a good source for it,
and it's a good source of L cornatine, very good

(14:38):
though for thrombosite count leukemia, anemia, that kind of stuff,
any of the blood stuff, and conveniently comes in a
little capsule. Along with that, there are things like Dimex
which has proven very good, burdock complex, cat's claw, but

(15:04):
seed oil or the butter we know for a fact
this doctor had three children and what he did because
everybody said, you can't do nothing about leukemia unless you
go do all these radiations and chemos and all the
things that are going to destroy you. More so, what

(15:25):
he did he fed his three children six tablespoons that's
a lot of sesame seed butter every day. And the
brown sesame was effective in treating the leukemia. And he

(15:49):
saw it work. But nobody wants to talk about it
because it didn't come from the pharmacy. But it's been
in my notes I've known about it for over twenty
something heres twenty six maybe, And that cataplectx T that
they used to have, the government didn't like the name,

(16:11):
and I think they made them change it. I think
they had to call it complex or something. But the
government didn't like tea because they said there's no such
thing as vitamin T. But if you think about termites
and meal worms or sesame seeds, I think most of

(16:31):
us are going to choose sesame uh and the butter
or the or the sesame seed oil. Now standard process
has sesame seed oil in a caplet, and that's wonderful,
and that that is your vitamin T that the government

(16:52):
does not like. In fact, the government back then the
FTA said there is no such thing as vitamin T.
And the guy who was doing all this showed them
some of the references that acknowledged vitamin T going way
back and they said no, So they had to take

(17:16):
away the vitamin and put complex T. And there was
this silly stuff. But that's the problem with the FTA.
If it isn't from the pharmacy, you're in trouble. But
if somebody you know and love is dealing with the
blood cancer, leukemia, they're going to have a low platelet

(17:43):
count usually probably very high white blood cell count. And
for no reasons to none of us, because we don't
fully understand everything in the mechanism of something like cataplex t.
But that is a source of uh, the elk carnatine,

(18:05):
and it is very good to help when you've got
something like low low blood platelet count. And when this
doctor did it on his three kids, it worked six
tablespoons a day. Maybe he didn't have to do that much.
Who knows, maybe he was airing on the side of

(18:26):
these are my kids, and I don't want to lose them.
I don't know, But not a very glamorous treatment, especially
when you're talking about meal worms and termites. Plus the
pest control companies wouldn't like you going out there and
eating all the termites. They'd lose money. But uh, so

(18:48):
many good things and like and like I said, you
can you can look at a lot of reference stuff
and they've had success with leukemia on a lot of things.
You know, Dimax, burdox, cat's claw, all very important I

(19:09):
think on the media orb side. Now cat's claw and
burdock are on the media orb side, but I think
on the mediaorb side, they also used incinetia. Let me
take a quick look and I will tell you, but

(19:29):
the sesame seed, butter oil, the best of the best. Yeah, ikinesia, premium,
elothero at astragolus, and vitain ox. It was also things
that have proved their worth when you have something like leukemia.
So when you're told a diagnosis, don't wear the plaque,

(19:54):
don't put your white flag up and surrender and think
I got to do all these horrible, terrible treatments because
you don't. You have choices. The only difference between doctors
like me and those guys over on the other side
is I'm going to give you things that belong in
your body to help your body fight the battle. We're

(20:19):
not going to bring the enemy into your fort and
tell you they're here to help you. Oh and that's
kind of what they're doing. So but anyway, leukemia, big deal.
Can you imagine not having platelets and you're you're you
can't stop bleeding. I remember in the old days they

(20:41):
call people bleeders. Well, they probably had leukemia or some
other problem, or maybe they didn't have Vitamin kay. Vitamin
kay is another important thing to have to help your
blood clot So those are all important things, all right,
Susy anything.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Yeah, it's interesting. I mean I'm just kind of experimenting.
But if you type that in doctor that cured his
three children with sesame seed butter, nothing comes up.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Oh what a surprise.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
And you know, it's just sometimes it's interesting. Well it
ticks me off, but it's interesting to me to put in,
you know, a search criteria that they don't want you
to know and not come up with the appropriate answers results.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Well, the people that told us this were affiliated with
Standard Process going way back, so probably we could find
out from Standard Process who that was that way.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
I kind of remember a documentary about it.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Oh interesting, I have seen that.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
And I think that he he put that into like
maybe cottage cheese to make it easier to get down.
I don't remember. It's a long long time ago when

(22:31):
I saw something about it.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Interesting. And the L carnatine is important because it's a
it's derived from the amino acids like lysine and all that,
and they're very important. You need you need the protein
when you're fighting, and they produce a TV which is
your energy. So all that stuff's pretty cool bill anything.

Speaker 6 (22:58):
Yeah, while you were talking about bleeders, I hadn't thought
about it for years. But and I might be wrong
about this, but I remember as a kid talking to
people who were dealing with him ophelia, and that's what
they you know, if they got cut, they they couldn't
stop leading. And so these people who were opheliacs were

(23:22):
always very careful wherever they went. And I said, I
might be misremembering that that classification, but yeah, it's got
to be a tough way to go.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah, it sure is. And there, you know, a lot
of things come into play, and too many times you're
given a diagnosis and these people they're done for and
the testing and all this stuff. I talked to a
family member this week and they knew a friend that

(23:57):
was told he had cancer and they only did chemo.
They didn't do the radiation, and it took away all
of his senses. He has no taste, no, none of that.
He lost seventy five pounds, just not good. And my

(24:25):
comment was, I sure wish I could have helped because
I know the person and the person and the family said,
this person has a lot of money, but would not
spend a dime on supplements, but they'll go and let
them run all the tests and give them that kind
of treatment. And I've never understood that. I've had several

(24:49):
people close to me than know what I do and
know the successes that we've had, and still tell me
things like, well, you know, I don't buy all that.
That's why I didn't call you. I went and let
them cut my prostate out. Oh then I think, man,
i'd have tried anything before that. I don't know, Susie

(25:13):
said when she now.

Speaker 6 (25:14):
Doc I read an interesting uh maybe yes, send it
over to you, but an interesting essay about science and
the reliance, the cultural reliance that has been in built
into us that if something is scientific, it's true and

(25:36):
it's right, and that's what tests prove. And the point
of this particular essay was there have been a couple
of apparently very extensive studies and I don't even remember
for what, because it wasn't the point, that were generated
with artificial intelligence, and they were all phony and they

(25:57):
were done as a joke. But the scientific community bottom
will sale because they followed all those scientific protocols. And
it gets back to the old, very old disparity between
knowledge and belief, and if we believe in something, it

(26:20):
means that we just kind of accept it. It's sort
of a spiritual level, almost. But knowledge has to be
based on fact. And if you can manipulate the fact,
and we know about how studies do this, if you
can manipulate the facts, you can prove anything. When I
was a sophomore at undergraduate who I had to take

(26:43):
a course in symbolic logic, which is a very interesting
form of mathematics, and it's as simply as is able
to derive a mathematical formula to any argument, verbal argument, whatever.
You give all the aspects of a particular argument mathematical qualities,

(27:03):
and you can reduce it to our instructor proved mathematically
flawlessly that potatoes do not exist. Now, this was a
while back. With the kind of manipulation that has been
going on for decades, hundreds of years to prove almost anything,

(27:30):
you can prove almost anything. And if you have studies,
and if you have sources cited in your study, it
acquires a kind of credibility that is almost unbreachable. I
remember when I was in graduate school, a kid had
a and it was a masters thesis, which is not

(27:53):
quite as extensive as an adultoral dissertation, but it's nonetheless
it's a semi scholarly work. And his advisor rejected it
because there were not enough references, footnotes about where did
this come from? Where did you read this? Where did
this come So the guy went back and saulted it.
He just made up references, made him up success. This

(28:20):
kind of this kind of of scientific think of a
clean word exercise, and our belief in something that is
supposed to be scientific, except accepting it without question, without question,

(28:42):
no matter how much evidence there might be contrary to
whatever that assertion is, if it's scientific, has got to
be true. And I think that with the artificial intelligence,
and this is talking about in this essay, that the
manipulation of evidence is so endemic that the whole idea

(29:06):
of accepting scientific reasoning as a basis for anything is
really at question. I think that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
You know, AI or anything in the way of the
computer world only knows what somebody put in there. And
so if you're Google doctoring and you don't know any
real world stuff about what you're looking into, and you

(29:39):
find that you're going to find the science pharmacy slanted
bring you back over there way. No matter what, Google
got in trouble, and they probably did it again many times,
I'm sure, but they got in trouble for fixing it
where if somebody searched symptoms that you would end up

(30:01):
having the worst case scenario of that disease and you
needed surgery in the pharmacy, and they got fine millions
of dollars, but that didn't probably phase them, all right, Susie,
anything before we go to break yep, all right, yeah,

(30:22):
Bail's back. Well, we're glad you're here, Bill, And that
was some pretty good stuff. All right, Well, ladies and gentlemen,
this is doctor Cooper's Natural Health Hours. We just finished
talking about leukemia and some treatments that we know for
sure have worked. And maybe I'll dig into it and

(30:44):
try to find out who that doctor was. But anyway,
it is November nineteenth, and please listen to our sponsors.
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(34:47):
Natural Health hours. We were discussing leukemia and treatments and
the fact that there is a doctor that is referenced
that treated his three children with sesame seed butter and
all three of them had leukemia and all three got well.

(35:08):
So we're going to try to dig into that a
little bit. But we are welcoming back. Susie Bill is
back with us, thank god, and we got producer Steve
over there behind the curtain. We were talking about Amazon
a little bit before the show, and I had to
tell this. There was a time that I had been

(35:30):
looking at buying. It was some kind of a drink
I forget, some type of soda coffee drink or something.
I don't know what it was. And it had been
a while I'd look at it, and then I had
never actually bought it because I was doing some other stuff,
and all of a sudden, one day there's a package

(35:50):
at the door. And I hadn't ordered anything, and nobody
ordered nothing for me. So I go get this package
and it's exactactly what I had been looking at. And
I guess, because I do buy from Amazon, and I
pay for their membership once to hear whether I like
it or not, they saw that and decided we're just

(36:14):
going to send it to him, and I thought that
was really nice. Trouble is, I didn't know who to
say thank you to, but somebody noticed i'd been looking
and they sent it to me. Anyway, and many times,
and then Susie and Steve can't say this, but many times,
and probably not even where Bill lives, I can order

(36:34):
something and sometimes it's here in two hours, a lot
of times the very same day or the next day.
That's one of the you know, I hate it because
it's crowded and horrible and everybody's jammed in the Houston
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(36:55):
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get order something and have it here the very same
day from Amazon many times, nobody else does that. All right, Susie,
Anything on leukemia or any of that stuff before we

(37:17):
move on? Did we lose did we lose her?

Speaker 4 (37:27):
I'm here, phone was breaking up.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Okay, we didn't.

Speaker 8 (37:33):
I didn't hear.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Did you hear, Bill?

Speaker 6 (37:36):
Nope?

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Okay, And at least it wasn't just me going crazy,
So I said, Susie, any anything before we move on?

Speaker 8 (37:45):
Nope?

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Okay, Bill.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
Yeah, I've had same day service from Walmart.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
That's cool. Yeah, I've never had that from them. And
they're not very far from me. Are they very close
to you?

Speaker 4 (38:04):
No?

Speaker 6 (38:05):
I don't know. I don't know. Apparently, but I don't
know where they would be.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
But apparently Okay, yeah, I know. Go ahead.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
People are reporting that there will be one at Walmart
targets another one that does it. There'll be one price
on the shelf, and then when you get up there
to check out, it'll be more. Oh that's not sometimes
five dollars more. And then you got to you got
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(38:41):
about mothers with kids, how about men who don't pay
any attention at all, just ring it up and pay
for it. But yeah, it's one price at the shelf,
and it's another price at the register.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
That's terrible, absolutely terrible. All right, Well, I guess with
this ride right into the funny joke section, and I
know you guys are dying for it. Bill missed it
so bad we had uh see. I could hear Bill
laugh and he probably fell over in his room. Anyway,

(39:17):
there was a couple of guys out playing golf, and
the one guy was probably in his forties and the
other guy was eighty one, and they're they're having a
great day he and the younger guy said that the
older guy gave him a lot of great advice on
everything from marriage to you know, in life, just a

(39:39):
lot of things. The whole time they played golf, and
they were coming up on the eighteenth hole, eighteenth green,
and just starting to wrap it up. Their eighteen holes
were over and it was time to make it to
the nineteenth hole of the bar, as we call it.

(40:00):
And the older guy told the younger guy, now, when
we get to the parking lot, don't talk to me
because my wife thinks I've been deaf ever since ten
years ago. You know that's funny. All right. Grandma called
Grandpa on the cell phone because he wasn't home, and

(40:22):
she said windows are frozen up and then won't open.
So Grandpa says, no problem, go in there, pour some
warm water and then lightly tap on the edges of
the window and everything will be fine. Grandma calls back

(40:43):
a little while later and she said, the computer's really
screwed up.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
Now.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Oh, because Grandpa didn't know that, she meant that kind
of window was frozen all right. Guy goes to the
doctor angry, furious. I mean, he is just beyond belief
mad because he had a vasectomy a few weeks ago.

(41:10):
And he goes into that doctor's office and he is
just stomping mad. He just furious. And the finally they
get him into a room because they don't want him
out in the waiting room that unhappy. And the doctor
comes in and says, what is the problem. And he said,

(41:30):
you told me that if I got a a sectomy,
I wouldn't have kids. He said that's correct. He said,
well I went home and they're still there, all right,
they'll I know you fell out of your chair. I
know you fell out of your chair. All right, we

(41:54):
got a news flash air.

Speaker 8 (41:55):
This just just in.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
A man is missing and Missssissippi after telling his wife
she was wrong, they're looking for him. So we'll let
that go, all right. And these are some of these
things I have to make up as we go. That's
why they're just so funny. If your bank charges you

(42:19):
a fee for not having enough funds in your account
every month, you might be a redneck. All right. Husband
comes home and he said, honey, what's for dinner tonight?
And the wife said nothing. He said, but honey, we

(42:40):
had that yesterday. She said yes. And I'm such a
good wife. I made enough for two days. Sissy. Have
you pulled that stunt?

Speaker 8 (42:53):
All right?

Speaker 6 (42:54):
All right?

Speaker 2 (42:55):
So there's a blonde and she is tired of the
blondes being picked on and acted like they're not smart.
So she decides, when her husband goes to work, she's
gonna paint the house and show him and everybody else
is how smart she is and what a good job

(43:16):
she can do.

Speaker 6 (43:18):
Well.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
When he comes home, the house has been painted and
his wife is wearing a big old raincoat and a
fur coat, and he said, honey, what are you doing?
She said, I painted the house. He said, yeah, it
looks really good. But why are you wearing two coats?

(43:41):
And she said because on the paint hands, silly, it
says better when applied with two coats. That's just good stuff.
I don't care what you say. That's just good, all right,
anything susy?

Speaker 4 (43:59):
Yeah, uh, doctor, doctor, I've got broccoli between my toes
I carried in my ear and surprise in my nose. Doctor.
It seems to me you're not eating properly. One more.
I like that, doctor, doctor. I can't stop singing. Delilah.

(44:21):
It sounds like you have Tom Jones syndrome. Is it common?
It's not unusual?

Speaker 8 (44:31):
I like that?

Speaker 2 (44:32):
And she's saying it Bill, you got any of your sleeve?

Speaker 6 (44:37):
Oh no, I know.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
There's a lot of pressure on you, guys because my
jokes are so good, and you wish you could tell
jokes like mine. But the any old joke will be fine.
We won't. We won't put you down.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
Well, if he can't, there's one more, all right, go
for it, doctor. I keep thinking I'm a dog. Will
sit down and tell me about I can't. I'm the
lad on the furniture.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
I like them. Why you got to pick on doctors.

Speaker 4 (45:10):
Because of blonde jokes?

Speaker 2 (45:14):
But I didn't make the blonde jokes up. I've made
up a few redneck jokes, but I didn't make the
blonde jokes.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
Didn't I didn't make up the doctor jokes.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Yeah, right, all right. So I've been watching politics a
little bit sadly, and I've come to the conclusion that
it's all bull and none of them truly care that
much other than getting rich. And I watched where they

(45:48):
have the Epstein files are finally going to be released,
and they had a very good point on almost every
news network admitted it that if there was something bad
about a Republican or the president, that Democrats would have
released it in the last four years. So that tells

(46:10):
me that there's probably stuff on the Republicans and the Democrats,
but they couldn't find nothing on Trump because that had
a little thing the other night and they were saying
that Trump, when he figured out about Epstein, kicked him
out of Marlago and wouldn't let him come back again.

(46:30):
And they said, well, there was pictures of Trump with Epstein,
and they said, yeah, in those days Trump was the
man that everybody wanted their photo with, and they wanted
to tell everybody they knew Trump and they were friends
and because he was your guy. But he didn't like
Epstein and he didn't go to Epstein's island. But they

(46:53):
listed on I saw a sheet today. I don't know
how true it was, but they listed a lot of
names of people went to that island. Bad news. But
then they had that what is her name, she's not
even she's in Congress but Pastric, I think. But she's
from one of the islands, so she doesn't get a vote.

(47:15):
She just gets to say I'm a representative and get
a check. And they had her caught with the emails
communicating with Epstein during a congressional hearing, and they just
kind of ignored it. They voted in the Congress in

(47:38):
the House of Representatives they were going to censure. Well,
three Republicans voted no and three Republicans voted present. Now,
I'm sorry. You make one hundred and seventy four thousand
dollars a year to represent people, and they did not

(47:59):
send you to Washington to go up there and say President,
you ought to be fired on the spot. And if
they start getting rid of some of that dead weight
up there. Maybe if there is more good people, we'd
hear from them and we'd see some good things happen.
I truly believe in term limits, but I don't think

(48:23):
elections mean much anymore. I think it did when Trump
ran because enough people were fed up, and he's more
businessman and less politicians. So I think that might have
made a big difference. But normally, just like this last election,
they voted for that Mandamy guy. And I did not

(48:43):
know this, Susie. You probably knew this bill. You probably knew,
but I did not know that. We had two or
three mayors once in Kansas. One was up in somewhere
in the West coast that were illegal immigrants who ran
for mayor and got elected. And and that what's that

(49:08):
woman's name? Uh, she married her brother to qualify as
a citizen omar and and and I don't think she's legal.
And she they had her on it. They played a
little thing the other night on the news where she said,

(49:28):
I am here. Now this is people that escape Somalia
because it was so terrible, But she said, I'm here,
and I've never told anybody any different. It's Somalia first
and then my district, and yet people voted for that.
So I just I think most people are at a

(49:52):
point where politics sickens them and it's it's becomes laughable.
The up with Epstein most amazing that he died in jail.
I still don't know about that. That doesn't set well.
But there's too many of these politicians that I truly

(50:13):
believe made money, Like they said that Dyspastric and a
Keem Jefferies were going to Epstein for donations of the
campaigns and invited to dinners with these people, and then
they all act like their saints. So it's pretty disgusting.

(50:37):
No wonder a lot of people don't get out and
vote anymore. They're just fed up and they really don't
think things are ever going to change. Susie.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
Oh, it's just disgusting. And that's one of the problems. Well,
you know, it's a double edged sword. If you don't
pay attention and if you don't vote, they vote dead

(51:09):
people vote, people vote multiple times and to the point
of bragging about it. And you know, one of my
big issues is with Trump of getting involved in our

(51:30):
state's elections by doing endorsements. You know he endorses Cornyn.
You know, he's endorsed other bad so called Republicans, and
so people will vote just because Trump said so, or

(51:53):
some other politician that they like endorses another bad politician. Well,
if they're going to endorse it, I'm going to vote. Okay,
I'll vote, and then for the rest of for two
years or four years, six years, whatever, I can just
not pay attention.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
You're probably right, you know. I like the idea of
term limits. I think it's stupid that we have senators
for six years and congressmen for two because that first year,
especially if they're new, they're just rearranging their office, and

(52:35):
as Bill said, they're having to spend all their time
campaigning because they're only there for two years. I think
that senators and representatives ought to have four year term
and after two four year terms, you're out, you're done,
new blood. I think that would solve a lot of problems,

(52:57):
because these senators have got it really made and it's
absolutely ridiculous that you're there six years and the congressman
only there two years.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
So we need to they won't. They're not going to
vote for term limits. Well, of course, not themselves. Better
than term limits is audit these so and so when
they get elected, audit them after they're out of office,

(53:31):
and look at the difference.

Speaker 8 (53:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Well, you know, to me, one of the the worst
things is going up there and acting like they're doing
stuff for us when they're just trying to get elected
and they they're above us.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
Like Greg Abbott.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:55):
Greg Abbott has got people convinced, and it's all over
social media that oh my gosh, what a hero. He's
put out a proclamation deeming Muslim Brotherhood and some other
Islamic organization terrorists. Well guess what he can't do that,
it's not in his purview. That's why it is only

(54:19):
a proclamation. And people are like, yay, Texas is deeming
these people as as terrorists. No they're not, No, they're not.
It's it's just for show. Just like all of a sudden,
Abbott's been there for eleven years and now all of

(54:41):
a sudden he wants to eliminate property taxes. Well that's
because he has a viable challenger with Doc Pete Chambers
in my opinion, and what's interesting is what talking points
Abbott is currently putting out right now, is Doc Pete

(55:04):
Chambler's mission statement.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Yeah, well, you know, to me, you should pay property
tax according to if you have one kid in school
a certain fee, if you have two or three or four,
and then once you don't have children at school, you
should not ever pay property tax again. And when your
home's paid off or you reach a certain age, they

(55:30):
shouldn't do that to you. It's a lot of corrupt,
evil stuff that happens to the rest of us. And
as you notice those guys, it wasn't that long ago
that Congress voted that if there's ever a government shut down,
we still get paid, but air traffic controllers and everybody

(55:50):
else didn't get a check. So there's a lot of
stuff and people are just fed up. I'm fed up.
I think they're amusing, they think we're stupid, and uh,
it's just sad bill anything.

Speaker 6 (56:08):
Yeah, well you get in to open a can of worms, sir. Yeah,
it's uh, they're they have developed the whole aspect of
covering your ass into a into an art form and uh,
no matter what they do, they've got a good justification

(56:29):
for doing it, and it is always in the best
interests of the American people. It's just just you know,
I was thinking about this guy in New York, the
new mayor of New York, and I thought, what a
what a brilliant political move it was to have him
be appointed and I'm not going to say he was elected,
but then to be appointed.

Speaker 7 (56:49):
To be mayor.

Speaker 6 (56:50):
Because he's so far out there, he's going to be
getting a lot of press and a lot of attention
while the chucky Schumer's and all the really bad guys
you're doing their really bad stuff and we'll never hear
about it. But as long as you got somebody like
Newshom and this guy in New York and a couple
of other ones who are collecting all the headlines and

(57:11):
being the focus of a lot of attention to these
other guys, are going to get away with everything.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
You're probably right. I saw something very funny. I think
it was on the news two nights ago. Man Nami
during his campaign, once it was pretty sure he was
gonna win, he told everybody stop giving donations. We don't
need your money. We've got it. Well the other night

(57:38):
he said, remember when I told you to stop sending money,
Well that period has ended. Now you can start sending
money again.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
Well, he was tackling it was so funny to him.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Oh yeah, he's just a piece of work. But you know,
you got to wonder, and I think you're right, Bill,
There's no way you can convince me that all those
people in New York voted for this man. Why would
you vote for our guy that promises everything is going

(58:14):
to be free when we all know it don't work.
Like right now, he's asking for money. But what happened
to everything's going to be free?

Speaker 8 (58:24):
And what is he?

Speaker 2 (58:25):
Thirty five years old? Maybe you know, and he's never
run anything. He used to be part of the Muslim
Brotherhood and that was tied to Obama crazy stuff. I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
Yeah, he's trust buy baby.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Yeah, but it's just there's no way that those people
voted for him. I don't buy that. All right, Well,
they is break time, Ladies and gentlemen. Bill, you got
something up your sleeve for a weekly topic.

Speaker 6 (58:58):
Yeah, we had a couple of things. I haven't decided
which one to do yet, and I'll get there by
the time we come back.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
All right, I'm sure it'll be great. We missed you
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Speaker 8 (01:01:43):
Hello. Hello, Have you been a hoorah?

Speaker 7 (01:01:52):
All those no?

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
No, no, no, no night.

Speaker 8 (01:01:57):
That's what I'd say.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
I tell you every day if you'd become that telephone.
Hey are you pad? Are you still the same?

Speaker 8 (01:02:22):
Don't you reasonist the things? I'm really not a dream.
I just can't believe.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
They all made Ooh.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Hey, yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:02:53):
You to this guy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Pun tied.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
I'm leaving child.

Speaker 8 (01:03:37):
Time.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
All right, we are back. Welcome back to Doctor Cooper's
Natural Hell Hours. It is November nineteenth, and we've got
Susie Bill's back, Thank goodness. Producer Steve behind the curtain
and all of you and twenty six nations, I believe
was the count. We are so grateful and anyway, it

(01:04:09):
is time for our wild Bill the head doctor is
as he named him a long time ago, to do
his weekly topic. So Bill, take it away.

Speaker 6 (01:04:24):
Yeah, I was part of a conversation a few days ago,
and by saying part of a conversation, i've I usually
just listen. I very rarely say anything. But it's just
part of my training as a therapist. I think to

(01:04:45):
just kind of listen and kind of watch the dynamics.
But excuse me. It began to address an issue that
you've talked about a couple of times, more than a
couple of times. I've talked about for more than a
couple of times. And it's kind of a consistent thing

(01:05:06):
between you're into the healthcare business of mine and and uh,
I don't I don't know about the pharmacy people, if
these people ever have come up with this, but I
had to do with with treatment and what what is

(01:05:27):
the question that I was asked a lot, and you
were probably asked more and I think I've even asked
you is how long do I have to keep taking
this stuff?

Speaker 7 (01:05:41):
How long?

Speaker 6 (01:05:42):
How long do I need to keep coming to see you.
How long do I need to keep coming to your office?
How long do I is it going to be before
I get back to my old self? And the only,
the only answer to any of those questions is it depends,

(01:06:03):
and it depends on a number of things. And thinking
about this and realizing that you know, you talked about this.
I've certainly talked about it, experience it. But in terms
of treatment, there they are basically three three different kinds

(01:06:25):
of people that come in the door. People with with
acute problems. There are people with chronic problems, and there
are people with lifelong problems. And I differentiate between chronic
problems and life long problems. But the acute, and certainly therapeutically,
most of the people I saw would be classified as

(01:06:48):
having an acute disorder of some situational issue. It came
up and knocked them off off track for a month,
six months, whatever, but a relatively short period of time,
and usually a very specific kind of issue, death in

(01:07:08):
the family, something traumatic happened, you know, the four if
I'll probably forget these by the time I get to it,
But the four most traumatic experience that we have in
our lifetimes are death in the family, marriage, divorce, moving
at a new job. All of those are tremendously disruptive processes,

(01:07:33):
even when they're even when they're well managed, they're very disruptive.
But those kinds of things can initially be described as
an acute issue. It's something that yeah, gave or take
treatment for six months, Okay, sometimes it's sometimes it's full weeks,
sometimes it's a year. But there there seems to be

(01:07:56):
a pretty clear cut the timeline involved these is a
chronic a chronic disorder, or a chronic whether whether it's
a chiropractice disorder or emotional psychological disorder. Gets a little
more complicated because the chronicity of some of these things

(01:08:18):
can be ongoing. It can be full time. Somebody's depressed
for a long long time. I've known people who were
depressed for years a long time. I've known people who
had kind of recurring issues with depressions. Is that constitute

(01:08:40):
or chronicity, Yes, it does. So there are some variations
with these kinds of things, and those are largely determinant
in how we focus on dealing with those those things,
those issues with you know, somebody's got a bad back
or a bad day. A lot of that can be

(01:09:01):
that can be mediated within a relatively short period of time,
dependent upon something that I think is very important and
don't and we don't often talk about it, but I
think that some of those things bad needs, bad elbows,
your pet dies, your mother dies. A lot of these

(01:09:22):
kinds of things can be can be sorted out in
a fairly in a fairly short time. And it depends
on the person is there's no no one size fits all.
It's just depends on on on the person's capability. And
this is I think the overriding determined at on how

(01:09:44):
successful the treatment is. It is it's a patient has
to be willing to undertake a change and b have
the capability or the ability to change, to be constantly

(01:10:04):
aware of what's going on with them, how they're doing
right there. A lot of people are willing, but they
don't have the capability. A lot of people are capable,
but they don't have the willingness. You talk about about
wearing a badge of honor for some terminal disease. Yeah,
that's a lot of people are very proud of the

(01:10:26):
fact that they're gonna die. Not a lot, I mean,
because we all are, right, but there's a drama of it.
There's this special fees that seems to go with having
some terminal illness that gives them a sense of being special,

(01:10:49):
and it's an odd thing. It gets into the fear
of wellness. It gets into well, you know, I can
get away with doing this. I don't have to do
this part of it. I think I don't have to
can I can pick and choose what I want to
do with my life because I'm going to die? Okay, Well,
how do how do we deal with that therapeutically? How
do you deal with that nutritionally? How do you deal

(01:11:13):
with it from a physical point of view? It's it's again,
it's the combination of these things that that really kind
of muddy the waters on one on one hand, but
on another hand, on the other hand, open up a
whole different perspective and looking at it. What Ral is

(01:11:34):
on was that, uh, the wife of one of the
people as part of this conversation with me. Then these
were people and I had not met. When they asked
what I used to do? I told them and the
woman said, oh, well, I've been in therapy for years,

(01:12:01):
And I said, well, yeah, where's your little placard? That says.
I've been in therapy for years, and as I began
to you know, my basic rule of thumb was that
if a particular issue came in my door, into my
office and it was not able to be resolved within
six months, there was a whole lot more going on
than what we used to call it presenting issue. If

(01:12:24):
somebody's depressed, and we began to make some headway with
dealing with that depression, but it kept recurring. It was
because there was a lot more involved than they first
wanted to share, wanted to bring into the conversation. And
I think this is You've talked about this a little bit,

(01:12:45):
and I've certainly experienced this too, that you know, the
patients tell us everything we need to know. No they don't.
They tell us everything they want us to know. With
a lot of folks, that takes out a fair amount
of time to lose them up and even to admit

(01:13:07):
to themselves that there's a whole lot more going on
to whatever has bothered them than they first wanted to
deal with and how to deal with that. So, when
somebody's been in therapy for years, you know, we've talked
so many times about how so much of this stuff
is definitional. How what do you mean by that? What

(01:13:29):
do you mean? What do you mean by therapy? What
do you mean by by it? Used to be as
somebody was in therapy for a long time, they were there,
you know, candidates for Freud. This is a loan. And
I'm not talking about people with obvious emotional difficulty. It's like,
you know, chronic schizophrenia or some of these very serious

(01:13:51):
behavioral disorders that require an institutionalization. That's a whole different ballgame.
I'm talking about folks that just come in off off
the And when somebody says, well, they've been in therapy
for years, there's two things going on here. Either the
therapist has found on an income source that's going to

(01:14:13):
be good. That's part of it. And the patient has
found somebody to talk to. It's almost become a friendship
and the relationship between At that point the therapist and
the patient really has lost any therapeutic focus except for

(01:14:34):
being able to talk to somebody. And I think a
lot of people who go to see the doctor every week,
whether they've got a problem or not, they do it
because of a social need. It's a socialization problem. People
who've been in therapy for years. It's a socialization issue,
which is fine because that's part of being part of therapy,

(01:14:58):
is well as being able to communicate, to talk about things,
to feel that as in so many friendships, there's a
comfortability factor there that's very healing. It's not always very therapeutic,
but it is healing, okay. And I think in looking

(01:15:19):
at the implications of those different kinds of categories of
acute issues, of chronic issues, of lifelong issues. Yeah, yeah,
we all have lifelong issues.

Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:15:38):
I don't know if we need to pay somebody one
hundred and eighty dollars every week to talk about it
for ten years. But if that's what makes you feel better, well, okay,
that's that's the point really of therapy, isn't it to
feel better? So, and it's the same thing with nutrition,
where you're trying to readjust a lifestyle to provide a

(01:16:01):
little consistency and a little feeling of moving forward. Is
not that they always need to feel better, is that
they kind of need to feel that they don't feel
bad anymore. And if they're taking supplements and they're really
moving towards that perspective of well being and that's part

(01:16:27):
of it. Things wrong with that, Whether in fact the
supplements are helping is almost irrelevant. What matters is that
they think they are. If somebody goes to therapy for years,
it's the perception that they're taking care of themselves and
they're working on things, and they have a resource to

(01:16:48):
go to unload stuff that's been bothering them. So again,
the definition, the definitionality of these various parts of our
of our health. If we need to be pretty clear
with ourselves what what we're doing and why. And it's

(01:17:09):
not that that one is wrong or right, it's just
that one is different from the other, just like we're
all different from each other. And I thought it was
an interesting conversation is just to listen to, because these
folks were very adamant about what they were doing. And

(01:17:34):
I thought to myself, well, you know, if you can,
if you can afford to pay us arapist a bunch
of money to go see them once a week, and
it makes you feel better what we go for it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (01:17:47):
I think my own personal perspective of that is that
if I'm not working on a specific issue that work,
we need to we need to redefine what we're doing
and our and our focus becomes different. We treat people
with an acute issue just as you do differently than

(01:18:08):
we treat somebody with a chronic issue. And we may
be doing the same the same manipulation, the same the
same theoretical approach, the same kind of of dealing with stuff,
but it acquires a different momentum and a different rhythm.
And I think as as a therapist, being aware of

(01:18:33):
that change of treatment rhythm, it makes a huge difference
in how I used to how I worked with a patient,
or what what we tried to accomplish, or how we
defined what those those treatment goals were. And they say,
the things that come up from from all of this
is that you know, patients had to be had to

(01:18:57):
be willing to try to change, and they had to
have the capability. They had to have the ability to
look at their life and say, well, this hasn't been
working and this is what I'm going to try and
see if this works. A lot of people don't want
to make that effort. It's a big effort. I get
that it's not it's not easy to say, you know,
you've been doing stuff maybe not quite the right way,

(01:19:20):
and that there might be other ways to do that.
You know, when when things get tough, we always go
back to the familiar. That's why you have such a
high recidivism. Right with alcoholism, things get tough, they go
back to what worked for before, whether it's whether it's
destructive or not. How do we have to develop the

(01:19:40):
capability to say, Nope, I'm done with this part of
my life and I'm moving forward. It's a difficult decision.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
I'll drink to that. I was thinking about how many
times I've seen the rich talk about how they're in
therapy forever and you need to go see my therapists.
I've been going there for years. I guess if you

(01:20:12):
have a lot of money, it's probably okay. You're just
paying somebody to talk to you. But I like your idea.
Six months you should have made some pretty good progress.
Unless you can't.

Speaker 6 (01:20:29):
Yeah, there's something else going on, you know. Yeah, you
know a lot of the things that we that come
up in our uh as adults, we're really imprinted on
us before we were three. And to somehow be able
to go back and eliminate the emotionality of your childhood

(01:20:56):
and look at at the behavioral aspects of of growing
up of your childhood in a in a kind of
a cold way. Oh it's not it ain't easy, magie,
and it's and it's uh. But I think I think
almost all of the stuff that we experiences as adults,

(01:21:21):
and the way we look at things, the way we
respond to things, can can be traced back to the
first five or ten years of our life.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
Wow, I didn't even think about that, Sizzy anything.

Speaker 4 (01:21:34):
I can't even remember being three.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
I can remember a little bit. But it's funny. My
brother will remember stuff. He'll say, you don't remember that, No,
like little little things that's stuck in his head. And
yeah it should have Yeah to me, it should have
been as important to us to him, I guess and

(01:22:00):
I di nenvert remember it. And then I'll remember the things.

Speaker 6 (01:22:04):
But doctor're all there. You just you just sealed them off.
And that's one of the things about long term therapy
is if you want to if you want to get
into that and get into long term therapeutic situation, yeah
you can. You can break those walls down. We never

(01:22:25):
know where that's going to lead.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
That's true.

Speaker 6 (01:22:29):
It's a risk, can lead to suicide, it can lead
to a happy life.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
And Susy, I'm thinking you might have never been three.

Speaker 4 (01:22:41):
That's the possibility, Sussy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
Have you got some recipes up your sleeve tonight?

Speaker 8 (01:22:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
I've got one, maybe two, depending on how quick I
get through it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
It doesn't it blow you, guys mind that we've got
like twenty six nations all of a sudden listening to this. Yeah,
I mean it's so cool and I'm so grateful for
all of them. Bill, did you get a chance to
listen to our music segment last week? No, I was.

Speaker 6 (01:23:20):
I was basically cell phone and computer free for five days.
It was great. I think I'm gonna shoot the goddamn things.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
Well. Susie brought up a couple of things that she
said Bill would understand. And what was it, Susy was
something about the key of some of the songs.

Speaker 4 (01:23:42):
Cole Leon slept since then.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
I hope, So anyway, she mentioned that you would know
the answer. It was some stuff about music and different keys,
and I always it blows me away. Somebody can walk
up and say we're going to do it in E.
And one patient told me they call that Nashville math

(01:24:08):
where they all that you know, these these four chords
are E and these four for A, And all I
know is the chord A and E and C and
G and I don't know what they're talking about. So,
but I do know that everything's in a key. I
guess the key depending on your voice.

Speaker 6 (01:24:29):
Phil, No, that has to do with range, but it
can also has to do with with key, depending on
if you're a soprano or a tenor, or a base
or a baritone. Uh that that more has to do
with range. But you know, there's a a tremendous difference

(01:24:50):
in sound between C major and E major and D major.
When you pick a pick a key to write a
piece in, it's not just it's just not whimsy. There's
a reason for it. One of Bock's favorite keys was
E flat. It has a very different sound E flat major.
It has a very different sound from E flat minor

(01:25:12):
or E major.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Yeah, I think, very different mood. That's so cool. I'm
just dazzled by the things they can do with music.
So I know I love music, but I don't fully
have a good grasp on how to write. I can
write words, I just can't put the music with it

(01:25:35):
for something reason. And you said something one time when
we were having trouble with our sound. And you said
some of these singers without the music are terrible.

Speaker 8 (01:25:48):
They are.

Speaker 6 (01:25:50):
And you know, a lot of the a lot of
the times you play a piece that was an old
piece from the sixties or seventies, and they, you know,
when they record a piece, very rarely do they have
the band and the vocalist being recorded all at the
same time. They separate it and they so they've always

(01:26:15):
got the instrumental part and it's on its own tape,
and they've always got the voice part and its own tape.
So when they remaster it, they just have to use
a different kind of musical background to or an instrumental
background to the voice. And that's why so many of
these redos of the old songs are so terrible. It's
because they're without the without the combination of the originality

(01:26:38):
of it all. It's just doesn't sound right. Maybe it
doesn't sound right because we grew up with it. But
you know, if they're doing an orchestral a symphonic piece,
they've got microphones all over that orchestra and they can
dampen out this instrument, or tune it or turn it
up a little more. You know, a lot of the
recordings that you hear of some funic music are basically

(01:27:01):
done in the studio later for the technicians. No musician
is present. The conductor and the technicians are redoing it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
Most interesting. All right, guys, Well, it looks like we're
at break time again. When we come back, we'll have
Susie's recipes and will help tekil the tea drinker with
the name of her company and bills too much. You
can't see the graphics. Some of the graphics are so

(01:27:33):
great that these guys who put together and Steve changes
I'm turning the show, so that's that's pretty cool. And
they got some mushy stuff in there. All right, guys,
this is Doctor Cooper's Natural Health Hours and Susie Bill
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Would sing, all right, we are back, Welcome back to
doctor Cooper's Natural Health Hours. Last week, the week before,
Susie got me thinking about some of the old songs
that we grew up with in groups and tonight, Susie,

(01:31:20):
did you recognize all three groups tonight?

Speaker 4 (01:31:24):
Dev Well, I know I know the last song that
you just played, but I can't think of the group.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
Okay, well the last one was Emerson lacoln Palmer.

Speaker 4 (01:31:35):
Okay, all right. I didn't listen to them much.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
No, I didn't either, but I remember that song Lucky Man.
That one stuck out.

Speaker 4 (01:31:44):
There's a little hippie fied, you know, maybe a little
bit before my time.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
Yeah, since you were never three.

Speaker 9 (01:31:51):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
And then the one before that was Electric Light Orchestra. Yeah,
and then the one before that was Bachman Turner Overdrive.
So anyway, it is that time, ladies and gentlemen, where
we're gonna help Sissy name her company because she gets
a little confused. And I know for a fact that

(01:32:15):
the name of the company is Rocky Roads and Dry
Dirt Gultous Construction.

Speaker 4 (01:32:24):
That's close. It's a renovation and design construction. We're located
in Texas hill Country and about an hour and a
half outside of Austin, an hour and fifteen minutes north
of San Antonio. And you can go to doccripy dot
com and scroll down about three quarters of the way

(01:32:48):
and you'll see a link that'll take you to our website.
We can also be reached at eight three zero three
seven seven two one, three, one excellent.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
This place, Matt for your segment is so awesome. It's
got tomato, scrambled egg, geez, carrot. I'm taking this with
mcmushy did this.

Speaker 4 (01:33:13):
Yeah he did it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
Yeah, it's pretty good. It's pretty good. It's really cool,
all right, su is he take it away?

Speaker 4 (01:33:22):
Okay? So kind of keep him with our theme of
budget meals. I'm gonna keep that going tonight. And why
I don't ever mention sandwiches, not very often, but you know,
a good piece of sour dough bread in this case

(01:33:43):
for slices, this does yield to servings and it comes
in at a whopping dollar twenty five a serving. So
compare that to the junk at the drive through. So

(01:34:04):
that one of the other themes that we do on
this segment is, uh, make this stuff a little bit healthier.
And it cracks me up that it calls four slices
of white bread or sour dough bread. Let's stick with
the sour dough, a true real sour dough. Two to

(01:34:29):
four slices of ham, and I guess that just depends
on how thick it is, and two tablespoons of butter
and a tablespoon and mayo. And we all know that
you know, a good mayo is expensive. You can make
it yourself with simple ingredients and you can control you

(01:34:55):
know the ingredients, so simple simple preheat on low heat. Actually,
I'd like to do a grilled cheese in a iron skillet.
And so you're going to spread mayo on one side
of each bread slice and then you're going to add

(01:35:21):
this bread to to your skillet with the male side down.
Then you're going to add your cheddar cheese or American cheese.
And what's interesting about this silly recipe is that it's

(01:35:46):
not listed as an ingredient. Well, it's a grilled cheese.
Makes me want to send her an email, okay. And
so then you're going to grill the at if you will,
for like five minutes until you start seeing getting getting brown.

(01:36:06):
Then then you're gonna flip to the other side and
grill until it's a golden. Then then this is different.
Then you're going most people will would put the butter
on their bread and then and then grill it or
put it in their their skillet. This prompts you, if

(01:36:27):
you will, to put the butter on the top of
it and then serve it and so there are cheese options.
Of course, you can do cheddar, mozzarella, provolone, monterey jack,
which that's well, okay, pepper jack's my favorite, but you

(01:36:47):
know that'll give it a little bit of a bite.
And then you know, if it all possible, stick with
ham options that are uncured. And uh so that's uh,
that's all there is to that recipe. So I got
to thinking about the recipe and I thought, you know,

(01:37:12):
how much nice it would be. Okay, grilled cheese and
tomato soup. So this is a really really good recipe.
It's approved. I see no reason to change it unless
you want to do bone broth, chicken bone broth instead
of chicken stock.

Speaker 8 (01:37:32):
And so.

Speaker 4 (01:37:34):
Two tablespoons of olive oil, two tablespoons of unsalted butter,
and the olive oil just helps keep the butter from burning.
So a medium onion, and so about a cup diced up,
and then three garlic clothes minced, quarter cup of water,

(01:37:58):
teaspoons of sugar. Of course here we're going to use
raw whole cane sugar, two twenty eight ounce cans a
whole peeled Morzano tomatoes, and then one fourteen and a

(01:38:20):
half ounce container of unsalted chicken stock or bone broth,
and this gives you an option here to do the
vegetable broth. One and a half to two teaspoons of

(01:38:41):
kosher salt, eighth of a teaspoon which I say, a
quarter of freshly ground pepper, eighth of a teaspoon, a
crushed red pepper flakes. And if you like basil in
your tomato soup, which I don't know, they kind of
go hand in hand, a tea spin a dried basil,
and then you could use like some fresh basil if

(01:39:03):
you are so inclined to, you know, do it shifting
on style and put it on top and super simple,
just you know, in a sauce pan or a Dutch oven,
you heat up your oil and your butter, add your
onions until they get to be about translucent, which takes

(01:39:24):
about three or four minutes and over a medium heat,
and then you want to add in your your chopped garlic,
and you want to do that for about thirty seconds.
Then you're going to dissolve your sugar into your water
and add that to your pot, add your tomatoes and

(01:39:47):
your chicken stock, salt and pepper, and bring it to
a boil for like five minutes. This says to place
your tomato and onion mixture in a food process or
a blender, and it does say or hand blender. I
prefer the hand blender because I don't want all of

(01:40:07):
those extra things to wash. Then you're going it says
to run it through a seed. There's absolutely no reason
to run that through a seed. And then you're gonna
put in your red pepper flakes and basil and cook

(01:40:29):
it uncovered just a simmer. I would actually do like
a low simmer for fifteen to twenty minutes. And that's
all there is to that recipe. Now, well, one of
my little secrets that I like is soon as the
tomato soup is done, take it off the heat and

(01:40:52):
put some raw cream in it, you know, maybe a
quarter of a U and that just takes the flavor
to another level. And like always, I'm going to put
these at on the Rumble channel Doctor Krupa's Natural Health Hours,

(01:41:14):
both in the comment section and the chat section to
where you can refer back to them.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
Sounds good, that's popular. I'm not a big soup person,
but in my house, they love tomato soup with a
cheese sandwich.

Speaker 4 (01:41:36):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:41:38):
And a lot of times they put those French fried
onions that you get in the little container.

Speaker 4 (01:41:47):
Oh that's interesting, and put them on top.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
In fact, they did that with some potato soup also,
and they taste really good and most of the ingredients
are pretty good in that little French right onions. I
forget the name of the company that makes that.

Speaker 4 (01:42:06):
Well, Frenches is one.

Speaker 2 (01:42:08):
That's it. That's it.

Speaker 4 (01:42:12):
But there is a there's an organic one, and I
don't think your regular stores have it. I have seen
it at natural grocers.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
Okay, I've not seen that. But the other one, Yeah,
the other one's pretty good, not too bad of ingredients,
and uh, they're already fried in crisp. It's pretty good. Bill.
Have you ever tried the fried onions, uh, crisp whatever
they're called.

Speaker 6 (01:42:40):
Yeah, don't like them. Reminds me of it reminds.

Speaker 4 (01:42:45):
Me of.

Speaker 2 (01:42:48):
Well you get you take care of your leukemia.

Speaker 4 (01:42:52):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
They like them in my house. That's a that's a
big one, the fried onions. I used to like the
potato sticks, but they don't make them like they did
when I was growing up. Now they're all made with
junk oil like cotton and to the life of me.
I cannot figure out what genius decided to make an

(01:43:14):
oil from cotton for food when you don't eat cotton.
I mean, that's just maybe they were thinking cotton candy
and they got confused. I don't know, but I've never
I just can't. I don't get that. Why is there
foods that people are putting oils that are not a food?

(01:43:40):
Do you know anybody that eats cotton? I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (01:43:44):
No. So those crispy onions that I get are called Golden,
that's the brand, Golden Crispy Onions.

Speaker 2 (01:43:57):
Do they carry them on Amazon or Whole Foods anything?

Speaker 4 (01:44:02):
I'm seeing them on and it says it's non GMO
on the label. I'm seeing it at Walmart, but it's
a it's a stupid case of twelve. But I'll look.

Speaker 2 (01:44:18):
Yeah, I have to laugh too. I see a lot
of people advertising non gmo and that I see canola
oil are all natural and canola oil and you know
they've gotta know better. They have to know better.

Speaker 8 (01:44:35):
No, they don't.

Speaker 6 (01:44:38):
They don't.

Speaker 2 (01:44:40):
Words of wisdom from our head doctor, doctor Bill. Yeah,
you're probably right. I give them too much credit.

Speaker 4 (01:44:48):
So, yeah, I see them. I see them at Amazon.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
Oh good, and it's a pack of.

Speaker 6 (01:45:00):
Of two.

Speaker 4 (01:45:04):
I think, yeah, two pets.

Speaker 2 (01:45:10):
What's the name of.

Speaker 4 (01:45:11):
Them, Golden Golden Farms.

Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
Oh, okay, interesting, I'll have to check that out. Check
that out. Because they like them, I usually buy a
couple of the comes in kind of a I guess
it's a canned kind of container, but it's a different shape.

(01:45:40):
But they taste pretty good, so I don't mind buying them,
and they love it. They love the cheese sandwich and
I usually put a couple of different types of cheese,
butter the bread and not pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:46:00):
You guys, I've never thought of putting the uh the
French fried onions, you know, on top of it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
Yeah, it gives it, it goes well, gives it a
real good flavor. Now, I like raw onions on a
lot of stuff. But I'm the only one in the
house that's ever eaten raw onions. They won't touch them.

Speaker 6 (01:46:23):
You're just strange.

Speaker 2 (01:46:25):
And it's and it's funny because they won't drink raw milk.
They don't want raw cheese, none of that stuff. It's
like it's taboo. So when I if I pour milk,
I said, well, I'm going to get the bad milk out.

Speaker 4 (01:46:43):
Oh wow, I didn't I know that I got Oh no,
it's probably about a year or so ago, and we
ran out of milk and it was like a day
or two, you know, before the Monday milk run. And

(01:47:06):
so I ended up getting some at natural Grocers. I
just got a cord. I think it's I don't remember
the name, milk milk King or milk King something like that.
And of course it says low heat pasteurized. Well it was,
you know, a better choice. It wasn't great, the better choice.

(01:47:28):
And so it was in the fridge and my son
got some and he poured a glass and he goes, oh,
this is awful. I can't wait till Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
Yeah, I tell you what, I'm spoiled. If I couldn't
get raw milk, there'd be some crocodile tears because I
love the raw milk. I love the raw cheese. And
anything that comes with from raw milk is better. I mean,
it's just got a better flavor. And I'm still blown

(01:47:59):
away that h GB and Sam's and I guess there's
some other stores. Kroger doesn't carry it. Kroger used to
carry squeezed orange juice unpasteurized, and they quit doing it.
Don't ask me why, but when you buy that, on
the back it pretty much said because we think you're

(01:48:21):
hy when you drink it because it wasn't pasteurized. But
we're going to sell it to you anyway. And it,
you know, the orange juice and all that stuff tastes
so much better. And I don't know why they don't
carry raw milk and grocery stores except maybe they're scared.

(01:48:42):
But it shouldn't be. All my point, there's no excuse
for it, because uh, people might know nothing about raw
milk versus pasteurized.

Speaker 4 (01:48:59):
That's that's not what it's about. It's big milk lobbyist. Okay,
we'll give you a check, mister rap, mister senator, if
you will keep voting no to raw milk.

Speaker 6 (01:49:12):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:49:13):
The last thing they want anyone to do is taste
for raw milk and figure out this is real food.
Oh my gosh, what have they been hiding? So it's
lobbyist money keeping them. There's been a bill sitting in

(01:49:33):
Representative or is it Senator. I can't remember cold cursed.
I remember her name, and I've said and talked with her,
and you know, I told Eddie Miller, they've got a
bill up there. You know, Eddie Miller is my milk farmer,
and he said to me, they'll never pass it. They'll

(01:49:56):
never pass it. So well, I guess you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
Yeah, well, you know, and some of that is the
bad name that milk got many many years ago when
the dairy farmers some of them ruined it for everybody
by not doing the sanitary things, and they ruined it,
and the government got involved, and it went downhill after that,

(01:50:24):
and then they came up with homogenized, which allowed them
to put all kinds of milk together of different quality
and get away with mixing bad stuff. No wonder I
drink Scotch.

Speaker 4 (01:50:42):
Well, nowadays it's the raw dairies that are cleaner, and
they're scrutinized so closely that people don't even understand. It's
the commercial dairies that tend to be nasty.

Speaker 2 (01:51:00):
Oh yeah, and thanks to pasteurization and homogenizing, you don't
have to really have standards. They're still selling junk. Now,
there are some It's funny because the milk I buy
because they won't drink. The one I like is organic milk.
But I laugh because they're calling it organic, that pasteurized

(01:51:22):
and it's homogenized, So to me, that's not organic or
not natural, you know. And I think about like the
orange juice. An orange grows on a tree and it
gets pretty warm weather, and if it needed anything in
the way of heat, summertime already provides that. It doesn't

(01:51:47):
need for you to go kill every good thing that
was left. Same with milk. So all right, well we're
just about out of time. Guys, Is he any last
thing before we wrap it up?

Speaker 4 (01:51:58):
No?

Speaker 8 (01:51:59):
Bill?

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
All right, Well, Susie and Bayl are both in the
no column again. You guys remind me of them. Congressman
that voted president. I hate that to me. As soon
as you said, as soon as you vote president, you
ought to be escorted out and fired. So shame on

(01:52:25):
them because that's not what they were sent there for. Well,
we we had a lot of fun that I built.
Thank you for coming back and picking us up because
Susie and I were doing our music thing actually turned
out pretty good. We didn't we didn't plan it. We
just started talking about songs and something about Susie and

(01:52:47):
that key thing I wish she could remember because we
wanted to ask you and I didn't remember, but something
about the music, the different key where you could hear
a song, and something was just off. I don't know.
We needed our music man. And then we got some

(01:53:13):
really cool graphics up here. Right now, I'm looking at
this bill. There's a picture of all kinds of foods,
and then there's a picture of all three of us
in the segment right now. But when you had your segment,
it had a different one, and I had one in Disse's.
And I'll tell you what the graphics and the place

(01:53:36):
mats as I call them on Rumble really make our
show stand out. We get a lot of listeners on
Rumble and that's pretty cool. So well, ladies and gentlemen,
I am just blown away that you guys take your
time all around the world to tune into our show.

(01:54:00):
We hope it's fun for you. You learn a little bit,
we entertain you a little bit, and we've got to
where we talk about just about everything. Whatever's going on
in the world comes up. And I don't know your
politics of everybody out there, but I think most people

(01:54:20):
in the world would agree that we want honest, decent
people representing us and doing what they're paid for and
not being bought by drug cartels. Are people like Epstein
and have them go there and do their job and
not be campaigning on their next election. So I think

(01:54:43):
that's a great idea that I had of four years Senate,
four years House, two terms and you're going, what do
you think, Susie?

Speaker 6 (01:54:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:54:55):
Absolutely, and audit does carpetbaggers.

Speaker 2 (01:54:59):
At Bell Do you like my four and four?

Speaker 6 (01:55:03):
Yeah, but I'd like to have you add no residual benefits?

Speaker 2 (01:55:09):
Yeah? I like that too. You know, I cannot believe
and this is where they think we're stupid, and nobody
talks about it unless you watch a good news channel
that brings it up once in a while. That they
vote theirselves that they don't have to get vaccines. They
vote they don't have to get that Obamacare. They vote

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that they don't that they get paid with the government
shuts down. That's a pretty good gig. And can you
imagine going home to your family and saying, I decided
I'm going to make money, but I'm not going to work.
You know, it's not right. And I feel sorry for
all the people that had to work without a paycheck

(01:55:51):
because most of us can't go very long without a paycheck.
There's not too many people I know that have enough
money that they can go through a couple of months
with no paycheck. And they said every single Congressman made
twenty thousand dollars in their paycheck while they were shutting

(01:56:14):
the government down.

Speaker 4 (01:56:16):
Very sad, and they and a lot of them got
that stinking payroll protection grant money.

Speaker 2 (01:56:29):
Oh yeah, I'm sure they're taking away during COVID. I'm
waiting to see if they're going to give us the
two thousand dollars they keep talking about. I don't like
them dragging it out forever. Just give us to day
of money. If you've got it, we can use it.
You don't need it, and if it came in tariff money,

(01:56:50):
we deserve it anyway, right, so we'll see. All right, Well,
ladies and gentlemen, it is that time of night. I
am so grateful for the team we have here, Steve,
the producer behind the curtains, Susie and Bill. If it
wasn't for them, the show would not be what it is,
And I am so grateful and blessed. We hope you

(01:57:13):
enjoyed everything. We're very grateful and humble that you tune
into us and give us a couple hours of your week.
And so may God bless you all with health and happiness,
keep your lives peaceful, free and safe. And it is
that time for good Scotch, good cigars, and good night.

Speaker 4 (01:57:40):
Yeah, good night at all, Good night everyone, God bless.

Speaker 5 (01:57:49):
Seems the love I have known has always been the
most destructive kind. Guess that's why now I feel so
old before my time. Yesterday, when I was young, the
taste of light was sweet as.

Speaker 2 (01:58:11):
Rain upon my tongue.

Speaker 5 (01:58:14):
I tease and light as if it were a foolish game,
the way that even breeze may tease a candle flame.
The thousand dreams I dreamed, the splendid things I planned.
I always built to last on weekend, shifting sand.

Speaker 2 (01:58:36):
I lived by night and.

Speaker 5 (01:58:38):
Shunned the naked light of day. And only now I
see how the years ran away. Yesterday, when I was young,
so lay happy songs,