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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (01:58):
Will cook the smooth and with the sundown shining.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
And I found my mind in a brown paper peg.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
But then.

Speaker 6 (02:15):
I tripped on a cloud and fell to eight miles
high high.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
I tore my back on a jagged sky. I just
dropped in. See what condition my condition was in? Yeah, yeah,
my condition condition. Welcome everybody to Doctor Cooper's Natural hawth Hours.

(02:50):
Our full team is back together tonight. It is December
third already.

Speaker 7 (02:57):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Just the weather, it's been nice. We had a little
bit of rain here. Uh. And we're spread all over
the place. Producer Steve's out there somewhere in the Fredericksburg world.
Susie's out there in Harper Valley. Pta Bill says he's
somewhere between Houston and San Anton and he won't tell

(03:19):
us where. And I'm here in the Cypress area, which
is right tied to Houston, which I don't like. So
but we're all here tonight. We welcome all you guys.
Hope everybody had a happy Thanksgiving, and Susie and Bill,
if you guys like to say hello and just go
right jump in there, Susie.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Good evening everyone. Thanks for joining us, folks.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
It's so good to hear that voice back. Susie and
I did again our best without your Bill, but we
missed you, so it's nice.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Susie and I were just as Mark Mark Twain said,
there's no feeling quite reading is having been shot at
and missed.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
I like that. He's one of my favorites, one of
my all time. I read off most of his books too,
probably all of them. Susie and I were talking right
before we went on air, and Bill and Steve a
little bit about a company that we found that is
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(04:28):
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check them out. Susie, you were telling me right before
we went on that something wasn't sourdough.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Oh the cinnamon rolls. But I haven't looked at their
that quickly. I mean I saw cinnamon and bagels, and
then I saw, you know, cinnamon bread.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yeah, I'm looking here. I pulled it up while we
were getting ready to start to show, and I found
cinnamon sourdough. I don't know, it looks like a doughnut.
And then I found English muffins, so I don't know. Look,
I have to look at it closer, but I'm going

(05:14):
to try a few and I'll tell you guys on
air after we do that. Next week. Susie and I
were talking off air or earlier, and one of the
things that I was thinking about on Thanksgiving is I
like happy. I like to see families that can get

(05:37):
together and not have all the bickering and politics and
you know, a fun time. But it seemed like on
the news all they want to show us is the
places where the family got in a fight and four
people get killed and ten get wounded, And I mean,
what a horrible way to spend Thanksgiving. It's almost as

(06:02):
bad as Susie's football team winning and they keep winning. Susie,
damn them. I know you're celebrating and doing the cowboy
some kind of dance, but anyway, I just I love
seeing people get along and none of that fiction. Because
I remember growing up as a kid, Thanksgiving and Christmas

(06:26):
with our families was a lot of fun. It was relaxing,
that nobody argued politics, nobody shot nobody. We never even
heard of anybody shooting anybody or any of that kind
of stuff back then. So I wish the media would
show a little more of that and people would maybe

(06:46):
see the example of how a holiday could be. You
get together with friends or family or both or you know,
and it could just be enjoyable. It doesn't have to
be so stressful and horrible. But we don't see much
about that anyway. Before I go on sissy anything on that.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Yeah, they don't, uh, they don't want to expose and perpetuate,
you know, families. But as far as when we were kids,
we did shoot each other with catguns. Uh oh can

(07:36):
you hear me?

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Uh oh uh oh can you hear me?

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah, I'm here, yeah, can you Uh Do you have
good memories of that stuff?

Speaker 7 (07:46):
Bill?

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, pretty much. It was Uh, it was always a
good It was always a good time. I mean, people
came in from a couple of relatives who lived several
states away. We would all get together. It was it
was nice. But likes like Jesus is it's part of
a play. I think from what we was, you know,

(08:09):
I've been wanting to and I won't. I won't do it,
but I've been wanting to. On the morning news just
account how many murders they talk about, how many how
much violence. Yeah, that's all it is.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
They love it, and it saddens me terribly because I remember,
you know, as a kid, we had both grandparents and
the one set of grandparents on my mom's side, they
didn't drink. So we always went there in the morning
because nobody was going to be drinking for lunch or

(08:45):
before that. And then in the evening was the ones
that liked to watch football and have a few drinks
and have a nice time, and so that was a
different atmosphere, but nobody. Never do we have fights or
bitter political conversations or none of that stuff. It was

(09:05):
as fun and I thankfully have a lot of good
memories of that.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
So one of the one of the early Thanksgivings here
when I moved Texas, somebody started talking about politics and
I interrupted and I said, you know, we don't politics
at meal.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Oh good for you.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
That was the end of that.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah, I don't. I don't like to see people argue.
They always joke. If you want to talk about a
lot of politics at Thanksgiving, you'll make so many people mad.
You won't be buying many gifts for Christmas. But I
don't like that idea. But it's a good joke, all right. Well,
tonight we are talking about shingles, and shingles is in

(09:55):
the same family as herpees. Sometimes you hear the word
herpe zaster, simplex ones simplex to chicken pox. They're all
in that same family. And many years ago, it finally
came out that the chicken pox vaccine indirectly caused thousands

(10:22):
of people to get exposed to the chicken pox virus,
which is the one that gives you the pleasure of
having shingles. And at first they didn't want to admit
it back then, but I guess it finally got out
and they couldn't deny it no more. And what I see,

(10:43):
because I've seen a lot of shingles over the ears
in my practice, and what it usually was was people
that were, oh, i'd say fifty sixty and older. And
one of the reasons is as you got older, a

(11:05):
lot of these people were on a lot of medications. Unfortunately,
when they first come to me, and it lowers your
immune system, it weakens you so a little bit of stress.
And one of the things with shingles that I always
saw was something had stressed them, and when it stressed them,

(11:27):
they got this horrible rash, usually on the back, sometimes
on the side, but usually the back, and it was painful,
sometimes itchy, very uncomfortable. And everybody always said, when it
comes to herpes and chicken pox and shingles, that there

(11:48):
is nothing you can do about it. But I had
such fabulous success at making it go away that I
don't buy that for a minute. People would say, well,
it stays in you forever. Well, I didn't find that
to be true either. I figured out we treated a
lot of people and very very rare did I ever

(12:13):
hear about it again. So a little understanding is it's
caused by the herpes ostervirus. It is, they used to
say the scores of the older folks, and most people
have pretty normal recovery get over it, but some it

(12:33):
can linger. And a lot's got to do with stress,
and a lot how many vaccines and medications you might
have done in your life, especially the recents and anti
viral drugs do nothing. So about the only thing they
know to do is maybe give you a giant steroid

(12:55):
shot or something horrible like that, but it's the same.
Is the chicken pox virus that most people have when
they were young in the old days, and herpes one
and two. Herpes one is mostly of viral infection, if
I remember correct, it is the lips and two was

(13:18):
more sexual, but I may have the numbers backwards. It's
been a couple of days since I study that. And
with anything with any kind of herpes or shingles or
any of that stuff, your body burns up a lot
of calcium, so you need calcium, and you may have

(13:40):
a deficiency of calcium, which helped bring on this problem
with the shingles, and the onset of the virus sometimes
can leave a permanent scar. You can have some real
bad look at stuff. And herpes has a tough time

(14:06):
of manifesting itself in sores or shingles in a person
who has a strong immune system. But if your immune
systems are run down and you're stressed, it seems to
come and attack viciously. And when there's adequate ionized calcium
and the tissue. This is the important thing with a

(14:29):
lot of stuff in the body, is we need calcium
and the tissue. You know, when you get a fever,
the body pulls the calcium from the tissue and puts
it in the blood, and so when somebody gets a fever,
we give calcium because that helps. But you want to

(14:50):
make sure you've got good stomach acid, so you're breaking
down the foods and the nutrients properly. You want to
make sure you got good supplement and food of omega
three fatty acids, and you want to make sure you've
got good calcium. And we choose calcium lactate in my world,

(15:11):
and I've always chose calcium lactate, and calcium lactate is
also in conduplex, which is a wonderful thing, so you
could do that. And mentran has some calcium, so between
calcium lactate and mentran, that's very good to help you.
And what you're doing is you're making sure that you're

(15:35):
getting adequate ionized calcium and that that makes a big difference.
And if you have a deficiency in the proper stomach
acids and you have a deficiency in calcium, then you

(15:56):
need to do some supplementing and eat some foods that
has that kind of stuff where all milk is good,
it's got calcium and you need organic iodine in your
diet also. That's very important when you're dealing with this,
and it helps support the thyroid, glan and other systems.

(16:18):
And once iodized calcium is ready for distribution out of
the bloodstream into your tissues, especially your skin. Now we're
going to need some cod liver oil. Sander process as
a great one with vitamin A and D and that's

(16:39):
an omega three fatty acid. Cataplex F is a standard
processed product and it's got omega three with prolamine iodine,
which is a good thing. And you're going to take
a lot in the beginning. You know, you might have
to take twelve to fifteen calcium loc take a day

(17:00):
for a little while. And cod liver oil. You can
get it into capsules and you can also get cod
liver oil uh in a liquid farm. And one of
the companies I remember from a long time ago was
a company called Nardic Naturals and you'll see them in
some of our literature. Because it's standard process. People liked

(17:23):
it too. And if you're on a lot of prescriptions,
they're weakened in your immune system. If if you're doing
all that and then you get stress on top of that,
oh boy, it's gone a kadie bar the door. So
and you got You gotta remember a few things good calcium, uh,

(17:46):
good omega, three fatty acids, good iodine, good digestion support.
And then some of the things that I go for
uh that you won't even find in the literature. Or
one of them is I found out a long time
ago that people that got herpes around the lips and

(18:09):
sometimes the sexual department. I found that neutramere by standard process,
which is all the amino sids, helped tremendously and sometimes
never came back ever again. But emuplex I would start
with myself immediately two of them three times a day,

(18:33):
cataplex F four of them a day, calcium lactate, and
you could be doing them anywhere from six to fifteen
a day, depending on what's going on and on the
MENI herb side, ikinesia, premium very important. And then things
like spleen and diimex and tuno omega. Those are good things.

(18:58):
So a lot of stuff can happen. You could be
very painful. I never had a younger patient with shingles,
but the younger people did get herpes, and so we
dealt with that, and always the calcium, your digestive enzymes,

(19:18):
the iodine, the omega three fatty acids, all very important
boosting your immune system. Keeping your immune system strong can
add off a lot. And then, like I said, neutrovir,
which is all the amino acids I found worked very well.

(19:46):
So that's something that we did. And I saw a
lot of this over the years, and always it was
somebody past fifty that was getting shingles, and then the
younger version. I would see Herpe's one, herpes two. Never
saw a chicken pox, so I don't know if if

(20:12):
anybody had it. We never dealt with it anyway, Susie anything.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
Yeah, fortunately I've never had that one, you know, miss
bubble girl here, but I remember my mother going through it,
and oddly enough, she claimed that the chlorine in a
swimming pool helped her to heal. I mean nothing, Harley

(20:44):
can live in chlorine, so.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
You might have helped externally.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Probably it. Yeah, there's no doubt that it's there.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
We go.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Can you hear me, Yeah, I can hear you. You can't,
Susie Bill, Am I breaking up?

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Okay? Can you hear me now?

Speaker 4 (21:04):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Yeah, Okay, it was it lit up funny color under
the mixer? Probably my fault. Anyway. I can see the
chlorine really doing a good job externally, but if you
don't deal with an inside, it's going to camp out
and wait for the next time your immune system drops
and you're stressed out. Yeah, but physically, yeah, that might

(21:29):
not be a bad thing at all, is to hit
it with some chlorine in the pool, so that that
would be pretty cool. And I found the amino acid
the amino acids in neutro mirror really worked well, especially
for the herpes one and two. And like I said,

(21:49):
I don't remember ever hitting anybody with chicken pox, but
a lot of shingles and quite a bit of herpie,
So that was pretty common bill any thing on this.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Now it was I remember kidding earlier people would get
these leashes around their mouth. Uh you know they really
say that back then there really wasn't anything that anybody
could do for it, so it just kind of it
was always there. And as you say, any kind of uh,

(22:29):
stress or change, even you know, change in the in
the seasons, which can be kind of stressful, would would
kind of have to have another flare up of this stuff.
So yeah, that the virus is always there. You never
get rid of it, just shut up and deal with it.
And that was how they how they managed. So it's

(22:51):
couldn't hear about this.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, that's something they always told me. Well, we were
told it doesn't go away. But I had very, very
good success. But most people never went to the kind
of doctor like me. They went to the mds. They
told them, we don't know what to give you. We
have some antiviral stuff, we can give you antibiotics, we

(23:15):
can give you a steroid shot, but they didn't know
what to do. And they always told them it's going
to be with you forever. But I haven't found that
to be true. I have seen the shingles and the
herpes completely disappear and stay gone and never anybody get
it again. So I don't think that's the case. I

(23:38):
think it's like any virus. If you're a good enough host,
it might wither back into its little box and hide,
but it's going to hang around because you're weak in
the immune system. Makes it an awful happy place to me.
But if your immune system gets kicked up and you

(23:58):
fight back, it's going to leave. And that's what I
have seen so I'm sure they would say, oh, no,
you haven't, but yes I have. People never had to
worry about it again when I've dealt with a lot
of them. So and that was a good feeling, because
when you see somebody that's got shingles or herpes, and
herpes is really embarrassing for people if they get it

(24:22):
on their lip. I mean, it's just it's so embarrassing.
They're worried that people are thinking the worst thing in
the world. And what I had to tell people was
probably every patient that ever came in the door at
one time or another had some form of that, and

(24:44):
it's fortunately for a lot of them it didn't break out.
But then what they notice is as you get older
and most people's immune system is weaker from medications, and
then you get stressed. Here it comes. So the thing
is like a gentleman, try not to stress out. Take
some natural things like men checks or mentrand or even

(25:08):
r checks, which is the strongest mineral tranquilizer to deal
with stress. Neverton Forte from medi herb. And then that
also is Roseanne, Rodeola and Chazandra, which is very good
for all that there's a Rodeola and Jencing also, but

(25:29):
Chersandro would probably do better when you're dealing with stress
and neverton Forte is a wonderful thing for just feeling good,
helping you deal with everyday life, because life can be
pretty tough, all right, Susie anything, we're getting close to
break time?

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yep, Bill, Yeah, as you were thinking about it, And
I hadn't thought about this for decades, But Jefferson Davis
of a Civil War had apparently very bad issues with herpes.

(26:12):
And I remember, even as a kid hearing a doctor say, well,
the problem with this kind of herpies, which was the
kind that was formed around your mouth, it will travel
up your sinuses and can ultimately wind up in your eyes.
And Jefferson Davis had that issue in his eyes. It

(26:38):
must have been horrible. Oh yeah, must be very peopful. Yeah,
And that's the only time I ever heard of it.
I never heard anybody else ever had that. One doctor said, yeah,
that's that's what it does. It goes travels up through
the sinuses and gets into your your your vision and
blah blah blah. I've never had anybody else say that.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
So who knows well, And it's very possible because there's
two types of pink eye that I've seen over the years.
One is viral and one is bacterial, and I would
think the viral one is probably very closely related and
even caused by the herpes virus. So if you don't

(27:20):
catch them and deal with them, what's that?

Speaker 1 (27:26):
I'm sorry? I was scurring my throat. I mostly have
herpies on my throat.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
I don't know, have you not missed them, Susie?

Speaker 4 (27:36):
No, right, exactly, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
So funny. Well, ladies and gentlemen, we got the bill
Max that will have our weekly topic and you won't
have to suffer through Susie and I trying to come
up with ideas. Bill. You know what she did to me.
She got on me for telling Blondo, so I didn't

(28:00):
do none, and she still came back with a whole
list of doctor jokes. It's just that's not right. It's
just not right.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
It may not be right, but it certainly Steve's fair.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, you two are always ganging up on me, and
producer Steve jumps in every once in a while, so
he started that.

Speaker 7 (28:22):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
I don't know if you guys have paid attention to
the place, Matt, but there's a section on there that
says music danger, music ahead, and mushy something and it's
kind of funny. I'll tell you what our our place
matts and the stuff you guys have put together I

(28:43):
think makes our show stand out on Rumble better than anybody's.
I mean, it just really has a good look. Did
you you did you get a chance to check it
out today?

Speaker 5 (28:54):
Bill?

Speaker 3 (28:57):
No?

Speaker 1 (28:57):
I did? I did turn my computer on.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
No so funny. All right, well we are at break,
ladies and gentlemen. This is doctor Krupa's Natural Health Hours.
We've got Susie Bill, producer Steve behind the curtain, and
myself and we will be right back. Please listen to
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We got winters, we got losers, chain smokers and boozersers, and.

Speaker 5 (31:23):
We got gets.

Speaker 8 (31:25):
We got backers, we got thirsty hitch hackers, and the
girls next door dress up.

Speaker 9 (31:34):
Black movie stars.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
Mm hmm. Other love this bark.

Speaker 8 (31:48):
We got cowboys, we got truckers, broken hearted boons and suckers,
and we got hustlers. We got fighters, early birds and
g nong.

Speaker 9 (32:03):
NDErs, and the bedrooms talk about their battle scar. I
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(32:25):
of place.

Speaker 5 (32:30):
Just walking through the front door.

Speaker 9 (32:34):
Puts a big smile on my face.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
It ain't too fall come as you are. I love
this farm.

Speaker 8 (32:54):
I've seen short skirts, We've got high ticks, collar boos
and ridden it.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
We got lovers, lots of lookers.

Speaker 8 (33:07):
I've even seen dancing girls and hookers. And we like
to drink on me from.

Speaker 7 (33:15):
A place job.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
This both.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
All right, We are back. Welcome back to Doctor Cooper's
Natural Healtheers. It is the third of December. Blows my
mind that time has gone so fast, too fast. Seems
like if you're waiting for something to happen, it takes
forever to get here. And if you don't want time
to go too fast, it blows by. So anyway, we've

(33:50):
got Susie Bill, producer Steve behind the curtain, and myself.
We are all back this week and we hope you
had a great Thanksgiving time. Sissy, anything on shingles, herpies,
chicken box before we move on.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
So, my brother used to struggle with like a He
called it a cold sore. It was all the time.
And that's the same thing.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Yes, same same family. Yeah, you're right, Bill anything, Nope, No,
Bill's back, Bills back all right, Well, I guess it's

(34:40):
that time for fabulous jokes and stories and things of
that nature. Sissy, Please tell me you don't have a
bunch of doctor jokes put in your suitcase there.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
I don't tonight, all right, because.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
I didn't come up with no blonde jokes. But I
thought about it, okay. So there was this old drunk
walking around and he happened to stumble by a lake
where a pastor was baptizing a bunch of people. And

(35:13):
he stumbled out into the water, and the pastor grabbed
him and said, have you found God? And then before
he could even answer, he stuck him underwater, held him
there a little bit and brought him back up, and
he said, have you found God? And the drunk said no,
So he stuck him back under again and brought him

(35:36):
back up. He said, have you found God? He said no,
And he put him through one more time, dunked him
under the water and held him a little bit longer,
and he brings me back up and he said have
you found God? And the drunk says, are you sure?
This is where he fell in.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
God?

Speaker 3 (35:59):
That was good that one, all right. They said that
medical science and technology have made such progress that there
is hardly a healthy human left on the planet. That's
that's what the western medicine does to you, all right.

(36:21):
Teacher asked the young boy, little Johnny, why are you
late for class today? He said, my mom and dad
were fighting, and the teacher said, that's got no reason
for you to be late. He said, uh huh. Mom
took one of my shoes and was beaten dad with it,
and I had to wait till she was done. I

(36:46):
love that. That was great, that was great. All right,
well we got here. Oh people, Now this you guys
can really relate to because you're strong. Coffee people. People
who drink coffee black more likely to exhibit psychopathic traits.

(37:10):
Bill's Ellie. People who order a quad shot non fat
vanilla soy, extra foam light whip, and a caramel drizzled
cup are likely to be their victims.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yeah, I like that. I like that a lot. Okay,
Grandpa's last words, are you still holding that ladder?

Speaker 7 (37:47):
I love it?

Speaker 3 (37:48):
I love it all right. Since the snow came, this
guy said, his wife keeps looking through the window and
he's trying to decide how much worse before he has
to let her in from the show So Funny, So Funny,

(38:13):
All right, Susie and Johnny, and I didn't pick the
name Susie, it just happened to be there.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
I have jokes.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Susie says, I'm going to get the boss to let
me off work early so I can go out and
enjoy this beautiful weather. And Johnny said, how are you
going to do that? She said, you just watched me.
So she goes over to one of the lamps and
hangs upside down, and the boss comes in and he
looks up and he says, Susie, what are you doing.

(38:46):
She goes, I'm a light bulb. He said, maybe you
need to take the rest of the day off, and
so little Johnny he starts following her out the door,
and the boss says, where you think you're going? He said, well,
I can't work in the dark. I love it. Okay,

(39:07):
this one's probably r rated, but it's funny. They said,
every young man gets married and because of all that passion.
When you're young and just getting to know each other,
you think you found yourself a nympho maniac. But after

(39:27):
a few years, the nympho leaves and you're stuck with
the maniac. That's good stuff. I don't care who you are,
all right, Susi, you got any No, Bill, you gotta
have some psychopath jokes or something, Bill, No, all right, Well,

(39:54):
then we talk a little bit about what's going on
in the world, because that's how I was thinking about.
I was watching where in Somalia, I mean Minneapolis, Minnesota,
they have been the mayor there gave a press conference

(40:16):
for the people of the Twin Cities basically but Minneapolis,
and he did it in the Somalia language. And then
Omar the woman who married her brother so she could
stay here, which should have never happened. She said, it

(40:41):
is always Somalia first, and America is a source of income. Money. Well,
just recently, and I'm sure everybody heard about this, they
found out that thanks to that quack governor and these
people in the little Somalia there, they've been defrauding the

(41:04):
government and an American taxpayer to over a billion dollars
in just the last year that they know about. And
it was going on during the phony pandemic. And what
they were doing was they were faking, treating and feeding

(41:25):
people to get all these funds, and then they were
all living high on the hog and getting cars and
jewelry and nice homes, and then they would send a
lot of money to two terrorist organizations back where they
were from. Now, to me, something really bad needs to

(41:48):
be done to these people, because you leave a war torn,
evil place like Somalia was. Of course Obama brought him over.
This may have all been planned. And then they get
here and they try to make Minneapolis like Somalia, and

(42:10):
they brag about Somalia being number one and America is
just the ATM. I think that's what Omar said, America
was the ATM. So to me, send them all back,
get rid of all of them. They don't deserve to
be here. They've ruined Minnesota. And that governor he tried

(42:31):
to make excuses saying, you're trying to blame one community. Well,
it's one community in particular, and it's mostly people from
Somalia that got caught. They've already arrested like eighty something
people and seventy eight of them were from Somalia. So
you don't got to be a rocket scientist to figure

(42:52):
out that there's some kind of a cliquish thing going
on there. And they're laughing in Americans while they live
like and queens and send their money back to terrorists,
which is what they said they fleed from. So I'm
wondering if Obama didn't bring him here and there wasn't
really a problem for him, and he was trying to

(43:14):
destroy America one city at a time.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
Susan, Well, you know you're you're pretty tight when you're
part of the Muslim brotherhood. So yeah, I heard today
that Mike Glenndell has filed to run for governor. Their

(43:41):
heads have to be exploding.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Yeah, they didn't like him at all, but he h
he's a pretty good guy. I think. Have you guys
seen this on the news bill? Have you seen it?

Speaker 1 (43:55):
No? No, no, this is you know, this is This
is the time of year that I I really don't
watch the newsre.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Well, this caught my eye. I always watch a little
more right before we do the show, so that if
there's some topics like this, we can talk about it.
But I always had a bad feeling. The whole world
knew she married her brother. She shouldn't be here, And
to me, you shouldn't be allowed to be in any

(44:24):
kind of political position mayor or governor, or any of
those things. Senator Congress, if you're not born here, if
you're not an American citizen. I've never thought that was right,
especially when they come here and the mayor is giving
his address in Somalia. How about all the people that've

(44:52):
been in Minnesota all these years, all these generations of families,
all kinds of people, and we never seen anything like
this happen until Obama brought over the Somalis. I mean,
they got caught, and now we got California and several

(45:12):
other states refuse to show the government their books. So
there's probably a lot of feedback and scams. And I
don't know what you guys think, but I really believe
the reason they're raising hell about these drug boats that

(45:34):
are getting blown up is because I think that the
cartels have been working with a lot of these politicians.
That's how they all went from one hundred and seventy
four thousand that were being worth millions. And they don't
want to see it stop. They're not very happy that

(45:55):
before they could screw over the American taxpayer and tex
Us to death and they get kickbacks from all these
corrupt places. Very bad, Susie. Will you think.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
There's no doubt, you know when you look at everything
which is overwhelming. You know, they they won't do the
right thing about the Epstein files. Well, they won't release
any information about their sex abuse slush fund that you

(46:34):
know Congress has up there to to pay off you
know who whoever's been abused. Uh, it's it's a den
of vipers. I know that's cliche, but that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Well, I think you you uh gave them the benefit
of the doubt and and didn't say near as bad
as you could have.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
It's like James call me. He admitted that he released
information on one of those news interviews. I remember seeing
it a long time ago, and they said why, and
he said, well, I hoped that it will cause them
to look into it and be an investigation, and you know,
they were all I mean, I'm blown away at how corrupt.

(47:22):
I guess I've always known it, but now that we
know more, it just just blows your mind that it's
gotten this bad. We might as well have stayed tied
to England and the King the way it's worked out.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Bill, What you think, Yeah, I was thinking about it
the other day, and I think these people have really
gone beyond being corrupt. I think it's just simply degenerate.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
What are your friends up in Minnesota? Do they have
any interaction with the Somalia crap?

Speaker 4 (48:00):
No?

Speaker 1 (48:00):
No, But because you know, it's Democrat politics, and you know,
white people up there are just taking it up to
who who once again because it's all about votes.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Yeah, you know, it's really sad. I remember growing up
where I don't remember hearing any negative about any group
of people hardly at all, and it was okay to
be white. Now they act like if you're white. He
got all these white politicians and political crazies thinking that

(48:36):
they're going to make people like them by talking bad
about themselves. Us white people are the problem with white extremists.
I've you know, I've been around a little bit. I've
never met anybody that thinks like these idiots keep talking never,
So I think they they're just doing it because they

(48:58):
want to be patent on the back and they want
people to like them, and they don't care. Somebody said
the other day to me, there's no way they can
believe what they're saying, and I said, no, I don't
think they do. I think they say what they think
people want to hear in a particular group like the
far left, and then then they think they're making them

(49:22):
happy and they're going to vote for them, and the
only reason what's no go on?

Speaker 4 (49:29):
So I saw this video where this mother was very
upset that she was speaking before a school board, and
she was very upset that her daughter in and in
an English class was exposed to sexually oriented information and

(50:00):
also shaming white students for living on stolen land. So
what she said was, I was one of the parents
who opted out for and this is high school for
any of this this sexual education stuff. And it's not education,

(50:30):
it's indoctrination. It's exposing you know, kids to horrific things.
So to my point here, well, and she said that
the principal did. What they were doing was even though
she had opted out of the sexuality class, they transferred

(50:59):
this teacher into other classes like English. So if people
have their kids in public school, they're going to figure
out a way even though you opted out, to get
you in there. And I got to thinking and watching

(51:21):
how these school board members were acting, and I thought
to myself, there's a solution to this, and that is
there's no pay for being on the school board. There's
no pay for being a county commissioner. There's no pay
for being on city council. How about there's no pay

(51:45):
for being in the House or the Congress, and people
still look at me. Well, I don't talk about it.
But when I ran for commissioner and a friend wanted
me to meet her cousin, I mean, her uncle that

(52:05):
had been a commissioner for a long time. And so
we're sitting at breakfast and at a restaurant and he goes, so,
what's the what's the salary? And I looked at him
and I went, I don't know. I have I have
no clue. I thought I was just raising my hand
up to volunteer. And so he walked outside. He called

(52:29):
the Gillespie County court House and found out what the
salary was, and he came in and he said it
was fifty five thousand dollars a year, and I said,
I don't care. That's that's not why I'm running. So
imagine if you if you did not pay these people

(52:50):
for a school board or city council or a congress
critter or whatever, there wouldn't be all of this insane
money spent raised illegally, legally, whatever for campaigns Because they're

(53:17):
doing a volunteer job. They've got to really really want
to be there and serve their country. So no, I
guess that's why they haven't put me in charge of
anything political. I say, don't pay any of them.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
Yeah, well, I still try to get you to do
beer and pretzels back then, But that's another story. I
don't know about not paying anything. But I think you're
onto something if I remember correctly, in Washington and Franklin
and all those guys' time, they only got paid when

(53:53):
they were actually doing in service work, and the rest
of the time they didn't get anything. Jefferson warned us.
I remember seeing a thing he wrote. He said, once
these guys figure out they can vote themselves things, you're
in trouble. And that's what happened. And you know, I

(54:15):
look at them now, and they all live like kings
and queens, and I really, with all of my heart
believe they're getting kickbacks from a lot of places.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
So you know, they with what Jefferson said. You know
how in Texas when they want to amend the Constitution,
the resolution is you know, close to the House and
the Senate, and it passes, but then it's put before
the public for a vote, and of course we have

(54:48):
idiots voting, and so they passed all seventeen of these
amendments that was on our last ballot. So you know,
this is like peeling an onion. In order for these
people to become more powerful and more rich, you have

(55:09):
to make the general public more stupider. And yeah, I
just made up that word. And so you have to
ruin you have to ruin education from kindergarten on up
and then of course through higher education and tongue in cheek,

(55:32):
higher education, that's a joke. So make them stupid so
that they'll vote for everything we want. And so let
me get back on the rails. Wouldn't it be nice
if there was something in the constitution that if these
guys were going to wanted to vote for a raise,

(55:56):
it had to go before the people. If they wanted
to vote for whatever other perks, that had to go
before the people. If they wanted to upgrade from dollar
store toilet paper to uh, you know, premium toilet paper
has to go before the people. I'm being facetious, but

(56:19):
I don't think that you let the fox vote for
what goes on or how to get in the Hntinghouse.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
Oh I agree.

Speaker 4 (56:32):
I mean, how stupid are we?

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Yeah, well we've we've. What they did is they knew
people would get so busy working and raising families and
paying taxes that they wouldn't be able to keep up.
And that's what they did. I'll never forget. Nancy Pelosi
has gotten filthy, filthy rich. And she conveniently was always

(56:58):
ahead of the curve because she knew when they were
going to vote on something that it had to do
with the stock market and a company and whether it
was going to go up or down, and she controlled
that and then had her husband go and buy the stuff.
But they put Martha's Stewart in prison because somebody told

(57:19):
her I think this is going to be a good deal,
and they were looking to set her up and attack her,
and she didn't do anything wrong. It's like anybody if
somebody says, hey, I heard this particular company is just
starting up, but it could be a good investment. You
invest in it, no big deal. Well Martha did something

(57:41):
like that and they went and attacked her. But all
of them were doing it, and Pelosi. They said Pelosi
made like over four hundred million dollars on the stock
market better than anybody in the history. Unbelievable. And I'll
never forget. This is when I knew things were really

(58:03):
getting out of control. Was they asked her about that
big giant bill that was so thick you couldn't read
it in a month, And they said, what's in it?
And I'll never forget. She said, we have to pass
it to learn what's in it, And and she got
away with that. That's how bad we've gotten. We don't

(58:25):
have power of anything anymore. It used to be power
of the people, but we lost that bill. What about
you before we go to break Uh yep, oh no,
there he goes.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
I said, for years, I think that I think that
any governmental position note like for Congress or state, state
sentence or I should be volunteer. There should be you know,
if they want living. Of course they'll find a way
to jack that around. But you know, but no, there's
no end, no no trading. I think there's there's a

(59:07):
group in the Federal Congress is trying to get this
stock trading building that no no member of Congress, family, relatives,
any any blood association to that can can buy or
trade stock while that person's in office. Well, yeah, good

(59:28):
luck with that one. It's a great idea, but I
don't know if it'll make it. Well, I do know
it won't make it.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
They show the other night on the news what they
get when they retire one term and they have money
for life.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Poor Harry, everything that they you know, everything that they
had when they were an active member of even if
they're there for a month and quit thanks to Hillary.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
Oh yeah, it's terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Everything everything, well, poor.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Harry Truman, who I think was a good guy, and
I liked his political ideas because he said, if you
want a friend in Washington, you better get a dog.
When he left office, he didn't even get a ride
to this train station. He didn't get a retirement, he

(01:00:26):
didn't get nothing. And Dwight Eisenhower, who was taken over
after him, refused to even do the traditional breakfast with
the outgoing president and first lady. I never did like
Dwhite House anyway, but that's how bad Harry Truman was treated.

(01:00:47):
No pension, no nothing, And these people today are richer
than believable. All right, Bill, you got a weekly topic.
Makeup for all this hookie you played?

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
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To day that the hard headed cowboy road out of town.
He left his love sleep and slipped out without making
the sound. He liked where he'd been, but the winds
were calling his name. The hard headed cowboy won't let

(01:03:45):
his heart get in his way. What a little le
pack kept his back to the.

Speaker 5 (01:03:52):
Sun for a while.

Speaker 10 (01:03:57):
Suddenly he felt a little more free every mile.

Speaker 5 (01:04:03):
Herros had a note when she woke up, was all
that she found?

Speaker 10 (01:04:10):
Did that the hard headed cowboy rode out of town.

Speaker 7 (01:04:16):
Into the night.

Speaker 10 (01:04:20):
Heroes along till it is story.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Singing his song.

Speaker 10 (01:04:30):
That feeling he Gavessa'd never left saw that he wants.

Speaker 5 (01:04:40):
It's what he don't have.

Speaker 10 (01:04:45):
Days turned to each and he thought, he you'll after
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his mind. Now, chance of African her, He's sure regretting
in the hard headed cowboy road out town.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
All right, we are back. Welcome back to doctor Cooper's
Natural Health Tours, and we're going to go right to
the head, doctor Wild Bill himself. Bill take it away.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
Thanks. Well, yeah, it's been a it's been an interesting
months with uh technical issues and free time. But give
me a little time to think about some stuff. And
you know, I've talked about this before, but thought about
it a little more specifically this uh, this past couple

(01:05:49):
of three weeks, and I kind of wanted to revisit
a little bit. And that's you know, so so often
I've talked about things that are head having to do
with specifically with psychological things, emotional psychology or psychological emotionality, whatever,

(01:06:09):
and this is a little different, but but it's connected
and and that is is the whole area of poetry.
And I've talked a little bit about this before, as
I say, but something came up that really kind of
it got me restewing a lot about that, about so

(01:06:30):
much of that, but even even uh picking up a
book of poetry has the book has a very different
feel to it physically, a very different feel to it.
That's say a novel. Usually they're smaller books, but but

(01:06:51):
it's a whole different mindset when you start looking at
a book of poetry. So you know, the question is
what is actually a poem? And Webster says that it's
a it's a composition in verse. Okay, so what's verse?
It says it's a metric line of writing, and metric

(01:07:15):
meaning that it has meter like you know, Mary had
a little lamb bomp, but it has a certain rhythm
to it. That rhythm over the years has developed into
a lot of complexity, and we kind of got through
that and we got back to what they call our
free form by proprieting. But it's the time of the year,

(01:07:39):
and I think this is what kind of really triggered
it to was it's the time of the year when
we kind of become a little bit more aware of poetry,
although we don't always recognize it as that, but Christmas
carols are poems that are sung. We have course poems
like quite as a Mouse in the House, and the

(01:08:06):
Night before Christis and all of those kinds of traditional
poems that have been around for a while. They're fairly
classic styles there. You don't hear them in any other
time of year. They're very seasonal, and there's really no
other kinds of Carald types of poetry that exists in

(01:08:32):
in in other seasons. But in poetry, I said, you know,
if I've talked about this or four, poetry is it's
really a verbal art. It's meant to be read or
I'm sorry, it's not meant to be just read. It's
meant to be heard. It's meant to be spoken. The
songs that are really commusic they have meter they have

(01:08:58):
them to them a certain meat tool. The thing that
constitutes constitutes really has to do something I probably can
talk about a little bit next week, but it has
to do with with creative impulses and our need, our
need to do that that old it really is. Poetry

(01:09:25):
was probably one of the first forms of expression that
we as human beings, aside from speech had they were
there were rituals, there were chants, there were curses are
in poetry or are metered there it's a very special

(01:09:48):
and a very ancient form of communication, and in many
cases it's it's a very sacred form of communication. The
liturgies and in churches, particularly in the Catholic Church of
the Anglican Church, are essentially poems, and they carry a

(01:10:09):
weight and a significant set. It goes far beyond, as
I say, just conversational conversational speech. It's it's a very
different kind of feeling.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
It's a.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Gets into our psyche in a way that the only
other thing that I've really noticed that it kind of
puts us in that special place is looking into a fire,
if it's a fireplace or a campfire. People were drawn
to that. And when we when we watched that playing,

(01:10:46):
we weren't a different place. We go to a different time,
we drop out of the moment, and we're very much
in touch with ourselves. Much poetry does does the same thing.
And back when, as we call the oral tradition, which
was the way that information was passed before writing, before printing,

(01:11:10):
before the written word became available all history, information religion
was passed by word of mouth. It was passed orally,
they spoke it. And the ability of these people to
remember huge amounts of poetry. I know I've said that

(01:11:34):
the odessty homer Homer's Odesty, which is a very long
poem mtory thousands of lines, was was all performed. It
was all spoken from memory. It wasn't written, It was
spoken from memory. And to have the capability to memorize

(01:11:58):
thousands of lines of that particular poem there were others,
is the capability that we've certainly lost. I mean, so
having the printed word around in many ways limited our ability,
our mental ability or mental capability in ways that I
don't think is always recognize. It's just like I can't

(01:12:22):
imagine having a class in a college university and disallowing
the internet, disallowing phones in class. You ask the question
of class and somebody will look it up on their telephone.
That's stupid possessed on education, as Susan mentioned, to get

(01:12:43):
minuted to go about higher education, or that that's dropped
in a few notches. If we don't have to remember
anything because we can look it up, why don't we
just kind of wrap it up and call it a day, don't.
I don't have much hope and all that sort of stuff.
But back to what the poems poets use used words

(01:13:05):
just like painters use color, or musicians use sound, or
dancers use use movement. The way they the way they
move it's it's it's a very from a poet's point
of view, it's a very personal mode of expression, and
it's it's different from poets are different from writers. Poets

(01:13:32):
poets use very few words. Writers use a lot more.
Poets use a line of poetry. A writer in a novel,
for instance, we'll use a paragraph made up of many sentences,
does the same thing. But poets use their words more
carefully because the images that they are trying to portray,

(01:13:54):
trying to describe, trying to share a lot more thought.
If you're going to only use two, five, twenty thirty
words in line, it's a whole different thing than writing.
And he the thing that came came to mind was

(01:14:16):
if you look at the Christmas Carol and we say,
you know, silent night, Holy night, or as they stay
in Germany, she stealing not highly a NXT. It's it's
a very different thing to say silent night, holy night.
It's a different image than if we could say night
or cloudy knight or starfield night. The feeling of saying

(01:14:41):
silent night Holy Night forms an image in us. It's
a very almost primitive, ancient kind of connection that it
puts us in a very different place. And it's true
essentially of almost all of the Christmas carols and the
ones that we have in this there are many, many
more than we hear in this country, but we tend

(01:15:04):
to we tend to be limited to half a dozen
or so. But the images that we connect with, again,
this goes back thousands of years to that place where
we're kind of in a different spot at a different time. It's,

(01:15:27):
you know, any poem, it doesn't matter really what changes.
And there's all kinds of poems. There's there's funny ones,
there's there's body ones, there's glad ones. There are disturbing poems.
I remember reading over over my life several poems that

(01:15:47):
were deeply disturbing, and I remembered in for years I've
thought about them and how much how much they affected me.
A very short piece is very short pieces, but nonetheless
they were treminously impacting the way that we the way

(01:16:08):
that I looked at things, the way that we look
at things. That poetry has an aura about it. It's
this different from prose, even even translations of poems, which
is a very difficult process. You know, what we say
in English in three or four words, if we translate

(01:16:30):
it to British English, or even to French or requires
many more words. Every language has its own contacts, its
own proximity, its own boundaries that really are are culturally defined.
And when we begin to try to bridge that cultural

(01:16:55):
that culturality, we really really get into things that are
very very difficult. But thinking back again to some of
the poems like Shakespeare for instances, or nineteenth century British poems,
like poets that the very complex forms of poetry, very structured,

(01:17:18):
very very tightly controlled in terms of of what how
the thing is put together and how it works. I mean,
most of them were rhyming poems. That's to my mind.
Fortunately we've kind of gotten away from that. It's more
free form poetry. In the last century. Actually it was

(01:17:41):
an American poet T. S. L. It was really important,
and beginning to break away from that highly structured, highly
controlled form of poetry, it became more as a free
form Rhyming was was certainly not an overwriting issue, but

(01:18:03):
the content and the context of of the free form
poetry became more intimate, more personal, more psychological, more introspective,
and with poets like EE Cummings and others, but he
was really the first one to do this. Poetry began

(01:18:24):
to be a to have a visual quality about it.
If you think about the poems that are printed in
a book, particularly classical classical poetry, there is very much
on the on the the left margin of the page,
and uh E. E. Cummings didn't use capital letters. The

(01:18:49):
lines of his poetry were all over the page, and
so it acquired a visual quality that kind of broadens
the whole, the whole concept. It's sort of like the opera,
you know, opera combines music, poetry and theater. It takes

(01:19:09):
these three disciplines and puts them all together. Well, a
lot of the free form poetry does the same thing
that this credded as the term implies, is a free
form a freeform experience. What brought all this on was
I just picked up a book that I hadn't looked

(01:19:30):
at for quite some time, a book of poetry by
a woman named and Sexton. And the book is called Transformations,
and it essentially is a poetic working of several of

(01:19:50):
the Grim Brothers fairy tales, a Grim's Brother's stories. Grim's
brothers were interesting guys in their own right because they
traveled around Germany and Eastern Europe, little towns, talking to people,
picking up folk stories. That's where Cinderella came from, us,
where rop Hunzel came from, where snow White came from.

(01:20:14):
All of these are folk stories. And these two guys
it traveled around for most of their life gathering these,
set these stories up and printing them. I don't know
how many of them. I was going to say that
the Grimm's brothers stories that they collected or two volumes.
I might be wrong about it. Certainly one fairly sizable

(01:20:34):
volume of folk stories. The sect and took these several
of these poems or stories rather and turned them into poems,
turned them into freeform poems. And and I don't think
I had ever before read the preface to this book.

(01:20:55):
And this is this is the point of all this,
that the preface was written by an American author called
Kurt Vonnegut. He wrote, I think I remember from looking
it up. I think he wrote fourteen novels, A Slaughterhouse five,
probably his most well known book, Cat's Cradle. And I

(01:21:20):
say the other ones were were not as well known.
But he was an interesting guy. He as I he said,
author in his own right, well known in the fifties
and sixties, and he was born in the twenties, was
in the Second World War, was captured by the Germans

(01:21:43):
in the Battle of the Bulge, and was imprisoned in
Dresden in Germany. And he was in Dresden when the
Allies firebomb the city, and he survived. A lot of
folks didn't. He survived. It was an left an intellimate

(01:22:03):
impression on his work. How could it not, But he
as a writer began to sort through all a lot
of this stuff. And really his Flower House five is
I think pretty much about that, about that that wartime
experience for him. Het taught English in colleges and and

(01:22:27):
this is what what caught me, what grabbed me was
in the in the preface to this Dan Sextant's book,
he said he quit teaching because he thought it was
so criminal to continue to explain art. Right on. I

(01:22:52):
couldn't agree with him more. We can't explain pieces of art.
How how we deal with a book, how we deal
with a movie or a song or a painting or
a piece. How do we explain that. You know, we
can teach we can teach theory, we can teach technique,

(01:23:14):
we can teach structure, but we can't teach spirituality. We
can't teach what this stuff means. Because what a book
or a painting means to me, it's totally unique. Nobody
else will look at it the same way entirely. Maybe

(01:23:36):
there's overlap, but it's a very personal kind of thing.
I was looking at pictures of Vanagat and I looked
him up online, and I think that that was pretty
adventure some of me to look something up on the internet.
But photographs of maybe half a dozen photographs maybe eight,
of him taking over his lifetime, and I was struck

(01:23:59):
by how much he looked. He reminded me of Mark Twain.
Maybe it was the kind of unruly hair and the mustache,
but very very strong resemblance. Except for his eyes. And
you know, as I think Shakespeare said, you know, the

(01:24:21):
eyes of the windows two our souls. But Vonaga's eyes
are what I call Bassett eyes, like a Bassett hound.
They're kind of baggy and big. Mark Twain's eyes are
like a ferret. They're both very introspective. They're both very aware,
they're very alert, but they're very different and so and

(01:24:46):
kind of thinking about that and begin to notice the
eyes of other people and how different, how different they are,
and what that actually tends to suggest about the personality
of of that person. How can you not teach art?

(01:25:08):
And I think well certently as a musician, the first
couple of years in school, we have to we literally
have to take pieces apart, pieces of music apart. They
do it in art school, they do it in English departments.
They dissect these things. And again it is more of
a theoretical structural context that it is a function one.

(01:25:34):
What we learn about dealing with the spirituality of a piece,
what does the piece mean to me? A piece of
art mean to me is something that we all have
to develop on our own. And I've never known and
it's a very private kind of process. I've never known

(01:25:54):
an artist, and I mean when I use the term artist,
I mean I mean writers, painters, musicians, sculptors, dances, whatever.
I've never known an artist who did not have a
particular work of art or several that they would never
talk about it. They were too important, they were too important,

(01:26:18):
they would never talk about. They may never even name them.
I had several pieces that I would never teach, I
would never talk about. If somebody would ask me about
a particular one of those pieces, I would always come
up with some quippy answer, but I would not talk
about it because it was too personal and too important
to be And we all have we all have that

(01:26:43):
where you don't have to be an artist just to
have those kinds of experiences, our life experiences. There are
things in our lives that we will never tell other
people about, that we will never share. As once I said,
you know, the only things in our lives that we
can truly call our own, our very own, are things

(01:27:05):
that we never share. If we share them, it's it's
almost a sacrilege. We've lost something if we share these
if we share these moments, because they will not be
understood the way that we understand them, and it destroys

(01:27:25):
them for us. So people, people in the arts have
these these resources that they will never talk about, but
they're always there and they're always functioning. And that that
that connection, that connection with that kind of spirituality, that

(01:27:46):
kind of identification, it really is is a process of
of their soul. It's what drives them, it's what keeps
them alive. And I think the fear is that if
they talk about them, that the will to survive, the
will to live, will die. And at some point I

(01:28:07):
think that I think that's quite true. We have that
same experience with Christmas carols, with Christmas poems, because they
will bring back parts of our childhood or growing up,
of experiences that we had decades ago that can be

(01:28:28):
as poignant and as powerful now as they were then,
and we can never we can never convey the importance
of those experiences to anybody else. They are truly our own,
and I think we need to understand that that's important,
and that that that's a good thing. It's like you
were talking about your childhood Thanksgivings and Christmas. There were

(01:28:52):
things about those those Thanksgivings and Christmas that were so
important to you that you can never talk about. And
that's fine. That's the beauty of it. That's what makes
us really who we are.

Speaker 3 (01:29:07):
But there you go, Wow, you're on a roll tonight,
Cisy anything, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
Snore?

Speaker 9 (01:29:22):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:29:23):
I just think it's deep, you know, of course, it's deep.
I just wish that I hadn't gotten you know, more
into two poetry. I was exposed to poetry probably in

(01:29:45):
sixth grade, you know, good old days, you know, when
we used to go, you know, to the school library
once a week, you know, and you could check out
as me books as you wanted, you know, And and
I I just remember seeing the cover of this book

(01:30:06):
and it said Robert Lewis Stevenson on it, and I
was like, okay, well that's interesting. And you know, the
the art work on the cover was got my attention.
And I remember I just I checked out that one
book and I read it, and I really read it.

(01:30:29):
I probably read it four or five times, you know,
during that week in sixth grade. And I'm really kind
of surprised with the way that his poetry affected me
that that I didn't get into it more. But you know,
he's definitely not you know, oh, how would I say

(01:30:56):
this without being offensive? I don't guess he would fall
into the category of the classics, you know that the
he I really don't know how to explain it. But
there was you know, one poem I think it was

(01:31:17):
called the Swing, and that one resonated with me. But
that's about That's about as close as I ever got
to being just completely enthralled with poetry.

Speaker 3 (01:31:35):
Interesting, what's that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
I should have never too late to read a poem?

Speaker 3 (01:31:44):
Yeah, well, I love I told you guys before, I
can write songs, which is nothing but poetry, So easy,
But I don't know how to put the music with it.
But when you were talking, I was thinking of that
song some some people call it Vincent and some call
it Story Starry Night where Don MacLean was singing about

(01:32:06):
Vincent van Go and it made sense, like we you
were talking about, we all see something different in art,
so how could you ever teach that? And in that
song he said, now I understand what you tried to
say to me, which always meant to me that he
finally figured out what Vincent van Go's meaning was to

(01:32:28):
his art, and how you suffered for your sanity and
you tried to set them free and they wouldn't listen,
but maybe they'll listen now or something like that. Pretty
deep stuff, pretty interesting. But I love poetry, and like
I said, you can give me a topic and I

(01:32:48):
can come up with the words so easy. It just
comes natural. All right, guys, Well it is break time, Susy.
Any last thing before we go to break nope. All right,
well you got your recipes with scotch and them no scotch. Oh,
you were almost my first and favorite female co host

(01:33:13):
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I forget the name of the group or him. But anyway,
I heard that and this kind of was funny and
I like some of that. It just grabbed me. I

(01:39:10):
don't know, I can't explain it. Anyway, we are back
and it's the time of the show where we're going
to help Susy with the name of her company because
she gets a little struggling at this point. And the
name of the show I happen to know from facts
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Speaker 3 (01:40:06):
And ladies and gentlemen. If you put our website, you
will see a picture of the Lovely and Talented Pistol
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behind the curtain, not behind the curtain, standing next to
a sign that says Fredericksburg. So you get an idea

(01:40:26):
of what both of them are you've heard them talk, uh,
and that will be kind of cool. Bill's the only
one we don't have a picture of at the moment.
He's for some reason not letting us have one. He
may be wanted in several places, We're not sure. Anyway,
Susy take it away.

Speaker 4 (01:40:45):
Okay, Well, in our ongoing theme where we're not scrimping
a taste, but we are talking about budgets. And this
particular recipe comes in at a dollar seventy five ish

(01:41:08):
per serving, and this is four servings on this one,
and this is baked crack chicken, and so it is
prep time. It says it's like five minutes and cooked
time in twenty five minutes. So that's that's not bad,

(01:41:29):
you know, for working families. This also, I believe could
be prepped in advance. But it's five slices of thick
cut bacon and you cook it and then you crumble
it up. Hopefully you're using uncured bacon, you know, say

(01:41:56):
that bacon grease, four boneless and skinless chicken breast, four
ounces of cream cheese, four ounces of shredded cheddar cheese,
and then one ounce of dry ranch dress and mix. Now,

(01:42:19):
this one calls for the packet. And I've mentioned this
a few times. There's some really bad ingredients in that packet,
and so I did decide, you know, this time, to
go ahead and share the recipe that I use. And

(01:42:43):
it's really simple, and you just put it in a
mason jar, its shelf stable, and I will share this
recipe to the rumble channel of luck. I'm doing the
other one, the chicken one but a half a cup
of dried buttermilk powder, one and a half tablespoons not teaspoons,

(01:43:07):
tablespoons of garlic powder, one and a half tablespoons of
onion powder, one tablespoon of dried partially one tablespoon of
dried deal weed, and one tablespoon of dried chives, a
teaspoon of your good Celtic sea salt, and then a

(01:43:32):
half a teaspoon of black pepper. All you do is
mix all of that up together and then just store
it in a mason jar. So back to the cracked chicken.
So you're going to preheat your oven to four hundred
and you're going to season your chicken bread with some

(01:44:01):
salt and some ground pepper. And it basically it says
that this initial seasoning is crucial as it you know,
it infuses the chicken with flavor right from the beginning.
Then you're going to take and it doesn't say room temperature,

(01:44:22):
but I'm going to tell you do room temperature or
cream cheese and mix it with your one ounce of
ranch dressing and then until you get you know, get
well mixed, well incorporated. Then you're going to spread this

(01:44:50):
cream cheese mixture in the bottom of your casserole dish
and then you're going to add your your chicken in there,
and then you're going to add your crumbled up bacon

(01:45:11):
on top, and then the cheddar cheese, and then you're
gonna place this into a baking dish, which I've already said,
and then you wanted to get to an internal temperature
of one sixty five and that's standard for food safety

(01:45:35):
for poultry. And then you're going to serve it. I mean,
it's just that quick and easy. So you know, you
can add whatever side you know, spring mix salad, uh,
some good cherry tomatoes, some you know, fresh green beans,
whatever kind of a side you want. One of the

(01:45:58):
sides that was suggested was like a cucumber salad and
that would be uh fabulous yous of salt and pepper
and drizzled with some olive oil. Just keep it really simple.
And that is literally it for recipes tonight. No scotch.

Speaker 3 (01:46:20):
Sorry, well, it still sounded really good and the scotch
would go well with that.

Speaker 4 (01:46:30):
Salthy. So if you go over to Rumble and go
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will be both in the comment section and the chat
sception a section which you know there's there's each.

Speaker 3 (01:46:49):
Sounds good, build anything on that recipe.

Speaker 1 (01:46:55):
No, it did sound good, but whatever the things I
was kind of smiling about was so this must be
a Texas thing. I don't know, but I have never
heard anywhere else at home cooking the use of the
word sides sice, you know, like green beans or aside corns.

(01:47:19):
You know, I've never heard that before before I came
down here, and I don't hear very often, but it
just strikes me as kind of a funny term because
obviously it's a side dish, but they're never put in
side dishes. They are always put on your plate, So
why do you call them sides? Anyway? What would you

(01:47:40):
call it? I'd call it green beans or corn or
spiniti or whatever the hell it is. I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:47:50):
That's hilarious. Well, you know when you go to a
restaurant and you order your entree and the waitress says, well,
that comes with certain sides.

Speaker 1 (01:48:01):
Side? Yeah, yeah, so you are you?

Speaker 3 (01:48:08):
Well you should once.

Speaker 1 (01:48:09):
In a while.

Speaker 3 (01:48:10):
Uh, your own your own food is probably the reason
you've called me sick many of times. It could be probably.
So what are you saying? Is a Texas thing about sides?

Speaker 1 (01:48:25):
Well, well, I've never excuse me, I've never heard it used.
Might have accept at a restaurant or at loubis where
they want to know what sides do you want?

Speaker 3 (01:48:40):
You know, that's funny, but it was.

Speaker 1 (01:48:42):
It was just funny.

Speaker 3 (01:48:43):
Yeah, I never thought about it anywhere else. I can't remember.
I've been here so long. How though, it's hard hard
to differentiate. What I always wondered is why is French everywhere?
I mean, like entree, that's probably French genre. When I

(01:49:03):
was growing up, nobody ever said about your music genre,
unless maybe you were in the music field. I never
heard that. And now it seems like everybody wants to
use French words except me. I don't like the French
words and I don't like Roman numerals on my clocks,

(01:49:23):
even though they all have it.

Speaker 4 (01:49:25):
Well, I like French prize, you like.

Speaker 3 (01:49:29):
French what, oh I do too? I like them season.
I like a Cajun style. Oh so funny. But you know,
have you noticed that there's a lot of words, and
instead of just saying it in English, we've given it
a French name. Makes it sound.

Speaker 1 (01:49:51):
So much In all defense of the words were always there,
they were just in France. And I think that there's
a certain elite, uh feeling that Colinus was being able
to say or or any one of a number of

(01:50:12):
other things. And it just doesn't mean Jack, you.

Speaker 3 (01:50:17):
Sure know a lot of awful languages. You must have
majored in languages on the side or something.

Speaker 1 (01:50:23):
Well, you know that my favorite, my favorite language is
bad language.

Speaker 4 (01:50:30):
Well, you know, I was trying to learn French, and
so I had a French person suggest a program, you know,
that you could do online, and so I had my
study manual and then I did my my my practice
online and so it was of course she had to

(01:50:51):
have a microphone so that you could speak into this program.
And it was constant ya, I mean constantly. Sorry, we
can't understand that. And and so I'm just saying, if

(01:51:12):
you've got, you know, like me, a teeny tiny you know,
Texas accident, you're probably not going to be very successful.

Speaker 3 (01:51:20):
I was gonna say, there ain't no way that little
blonde Texas girl could ever speak French. They would pick
you out of the crowd from two miles away.

Speaker 4 (01:51:30):
Well, and to to answer your question about you know,
why do we say Entree and John Ryan what not?
Just remember six flags flew over Texas.

Speaker 3 (01:51:46):
Well, I don't care. I watched Married with Children and
the Great Albundy, The Great Albundy went up on the
mountain and talked to God and he came down. They said, oh,
what did he say? And he said, to be French
is wrong. I'll never forget that. That was so funny.

(01:52:14):
He was playing Moses. I guess he said to be
French is wrong. You know, when I was in the Navy,
every country we went to you could go over dressed
in civilian clothes except France. And their logic was that

(01:52:37):
the French didn't like us, So put on your dress
uniform and make sure that they all know you're US sailor.
And I thought, what genius came up with that. If
they don't like us, why don't we go over in
civilian clothes and make them wonder you know, tourists or

(01:53:00):
it was as stupid. It is the only country I
ever went to that they made us wear a dress uniform,
and every other country we could go, even in England.
I was in Portsmouth, England on Fourth of July weekend.
They don't celebrate, by the way, and we did not

(01:53:21):
have to dress up. In fact, the English people were
so wonderful. They showed up at the ship. They wanted
to take tours, and they wanted to invite us into
their homes for the weekend. It was a really cool thing.
But they have warm beer. I don't think I could
get adjusted to that, but I do like the chips

(01:53:45):
and fish and chips.

Speaker 5 (01:53:47):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (01:53:50):
So real quick, guys, we got a couple of minutes. Susie.
The best place you've ever been in America or otherwise.

Speaker 4 (01:53:59):
The best place? Hmm, yeah, I'm gonna say Steamboat Springs, Colorado. Mm.

Speaker 3 (01:54:17):
Interesting, you picked a blue Democratic state, but it must
have had something that left a good impression.

Speaker 4 (01:54:28):
That or cloud Croft, New Mexico.

Speaker 3 (01:54:37):
I've never been to either of those places. Bill, how
about you. You've been everywhere like a gypsy. Did we
lose him? I'm thinking we might have lost him.

Speaker 4 (01:54:56):
Susy, Yeah, I think so, because I'm looking and I
see I see Steve, and I see you and myself. Okay,
well at four minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:55:14):
Yeah we're okay. Uh. Bill's been everywhere. That's why I
was hoping to pick his brain on that too. I
really thought you were going to say someplace with German food,
like in Germany somewhere. You threw me a curveball, because
you're always talking about German food.

Speaker 4 (01:55:33):
My I mean, at the time, one of my favorite
places to go was probably, of course, I'm a kid
of Hamburg, and I don't remember the little town I've
told the story I think about. Of course, it was

(01:55:57):
near the military base, where at the time was while
if they intervewed, they can however you want to say it.
But it was like just a house. This family had
a restaurant and it was mostly you know, military families
that came there and ate and everything was so authentic

(01:56:19):
that probably well, there's not a place, not a place zero.
I hate to burst bubbles in Fredericksburg that tasted, which
is a German town which tasted anything like that, and
you know, the family's cat, you know, used to stroll

(01:56:39):
around and visit everybody, and you know people would give it,
you know, you know, a little bite of a venishness
lower sausage or whatever. But you know that was just
like comfort food, German style. But my favorite experience, I

(01:57:01):
don't know that I can say place, but my favorite
experience was going to the Frankfurt Zoo and that was
the only time I ever saw a black black panther.

Speaker 3 (01:57:13):
Oh cool. Yeah, the food, you know, and I think
Fredericksburg's changed because you had a lot of German settlers
and they probably had all the old tradition stuff. And
unfortunately your area up there with tourists has gone crazy,

(01:57:34):
and I'm sure that a lot of the old traditions
that were German got lost along the wayside. And that's
really sad because I bet you had really good German
food up there twenty five thirty years ago. Maybe going back.

Speaker 4 (01:57:51):
Further, well, yeah, and it's been a while. I don't
know Steven's eating there, and I think it's a German family.
But der Lindenbaum is on Main Street and it's a
very small kind of home style looking in place. But

(01:58:14):
I'm not going to name the names of the people
who buy their ingredients from Cisco. But all I can
say is der Lendenbond is probably the only thing really
authentic here anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:58:34):
That's good.

Speaker 4 (01:58:36):
Well, you know, when we first moved here, and you know,
my dad loved Fredericksburg and New Bronfolds in all of
this area. I remember there was a street vendor and
he would sell a broad Worst in a knockwurst with

(01:58:56):
if you wanted, you know, the hot German mustard, the
sauer kraut on a traditional role, broaching type role, and
it was like two dollars. And you know, I would
go to town to run errands and I cared nothing

(01:59:17):
about any restaurants. Drive through is whatever. I mean, we
didn't have water Burger back then. But now I park
my car and I walk over there to that street
vendor and I'd get me my two dollars brought Worst
with hot mustard in South Crowdon. I was a happy camper.

Speaker 3 (01:59:35):
Oh I am so hungry right now, right, Yeah, I
love all that stuff. Yeah, all right, well, I guess
we're at that time. So is he any last thing
you want to say for we wrap it up.

Speaker 4 (01:59:47):
Yeah, they shut that man down. But fast forward twenty
five years in the food trucks everywhere. That's all.

Speaker 3 (01:59:55):
That's terrible. That's what I loved. I haven't been to
Fredericksburg and a long long time, but lucky for me
and our family, and I think I was there twice.
It was before it went crazy, and you got some
great naval history there. One of the greatest admirals ever.

(02:00:18):
So that yeah, Nems he was. He was amazing. All right, Well,
ladies and gentlemen, we are so grateful for you being
here and listening to us. And we have such a
great team. We've got producer Steve behind the curtain Bill.
I think we lost him a moment ago, but he
was back in full farm tonight. Susie's always fabulous, and

(02:00:41):
I try to keep up with all of them because
they sure make this show wonderful. And we're so glad
that you guys tune in and listen. We've got so
many nations around the world and that it is just
an honor. So that time of night, since Susie made
me extremely hungry and she left out cold beer to

(02:01:02):
go with that, sausage. But anyway, May God bless you
all with health and happiness, keep your lives peaceful, free
and safe. And it is time for good scotch, good cigars,
and good night.

Speaker 4 (02:01:23):
You're not everyone, God bless.

Speaker 6 (02:01:28):
Seems the love I've known has always been the most
destructive kind. Yes, that's why now I feel so old
before my time. Yesterday, when I was young, the taste

(02:01:48):
of life was sweets rain upon my tongue.

Speaker 5 (02:01:53):
I teased at life.

Speaker 3 (02:01:55):
As if it were a foolish.

Speaker 5 (02:01:57):
Game, the way even breeze.

Speaker 6 (02:02:01):
Made tease a candle flame. A thousand dreams. I dreamed,
the splendid things I planned. I always built to last
on weekend, shifting sand.

Speaker 3 (02:02:15):
I lived by night and.

Speaker 6 (02:02:17):
Shun the naked light of day. And only now I
see how the years ran away.

Speaker 10 (02:02:26):
Yesterday when I

Speaker 6 (02:02:29):
Was young, and so many happy songs,
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