Dr. Kroupa's Natural Health Hours 4-23-25 with Doc, Suzi, and Bill

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Speaker 3 (01:44):
I woke up the smoon and with the sundown shineing,
and I.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Found my mind in a brown paper peg. But then
I just.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Dropped in to see what condition my condition was in.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah my condition boy? All righty, welcome everybody
to Doctor Crouper's Natural Health Ours. That was our audience

(02:25):
and they've been a little liquored up since before the
show started. But we're glad you guys are here. Just
don't touch my scotch. We've got Susie on Skype, and
we've got our behind the scenes hiding away producer Steve
on Skype. But Bill had to play difficult and he's

(02:47):
on bluetooth on the phone. So but we're all here.
It is April twenty third, I think, and it's been
raining on and off here where I'm at. I don't
know about you guys. Has anybody else had rain?

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Yep? Kind about answer rain today?

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Oh well that's a little rain gonna make all the
stuff grow, so that'll be kind of nice anyway. Tonight
with guys, we're gonna touch on inversion tables, back pain, uh,
a little bit on why some people choose surgery unfortunately.

(03:35):
Some products that can help you heal, keep you well
and kind of maintain that health on a regular basis. Uh,
Susie and Bill, you guys can do this. Steve sent
me a joke today and I probably won't use it,
but it was really nice to hear from him. But anyway,

(03:58):
if you guys have jokes, our song requests to be
great to hear from you, let me know.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
And speaking of speaking of song request, doc the opening song,
none of the backup music or wow, Susy, what you hear?

Speaker 5 (04:19):
I think I heard the regular Okay, that's what I heard.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Bill's always gotta be different when it comes to electronics,
do you bet? Yeah, you just can't play well with electronics.
All right, that's weird. I'm glad you told me that.
I did not know what would do that. Maybe because
you're on the Bluetooth.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
I don't know, it's never done that before. But you're
probably right because you understand all this technical stuff and line.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, right, that's good. I I did good learning the
spreaker software, the Skype, the mixer, but it took a
lot of hours. That does not jump out at me
real easy like it probably does for Steve. And Susie's
pretty good with the technical stuff, but she's much more

(05:10):
artistic and that works really well with all of our
stuff and our web page and everything. If you guys
like to say hello, Susie and.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
Bill coed, good evening, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
How folks, we had something brand new, guys, that I
have never seen. When I go into speaker software, it
will tell me sourts this, and that usually means speaker. iHeartRadio, Spotify,

(05:48):
Google podcasts, all of them, and we've seen them all
at one time or another. But yesterday we had one
source that said testmotors dot com. I've never seen that.
I don't even know where it came from, but that's
kind of cool. So somebody's listening through Tesla motors dot com.

(06:13):
Never knew they even had that, so kind of cool.
We still have about eight nations listening to us. I
took a quick glance at that before the show started,
and don't think anything else. We've had about the same

(06:35):
number that show up that I can see of people
following us and listening. And I really like this rumble
place matter, whatever you guys call it. Susie and Steve
looks really cool. All right, so and I guess we're

(06:56):
live on there. I have to click this and see
there we go. I had to refresh the page and
it went live, So that's cool, all right. Well, one
of the reasons I brought up inversion tables is a
lot of times people get discompression from life, especially the joggers,

(07:19):
people on their feet all the time. As you get
a little older, people that work out too much and
lift too much, we get compressed. Kind of think of
it like an accordion, all closed up and press them down.
So if I get them in the office, I do.

(07:41):
And this is still kind of rare. People tell me
nobody does this, but I do this distraction relieve pressure
adjustment both from the feet, leg side and also from
the arm, hand, wrist, upper body, and I break all that.
And there have been times where people screamed because it

(08:05):
was so jammed up and inflamed, and when it broke free,
it hurt. And then when they got up it was like,
oh my god, I can't believe how good that feels.
And many times, well I should say not one time
in twenty six years or so, if somebody came to

(08:25):
me and said, they say, I need surgery, did they
need it? If I got to them first, Thank god.
I've had a few that I think they chose that
and never came back because that's what they wanted and
they had it in their mind they needed surgery. One

(08:47):
lady came to me, drove almost two hours to get here,
but she said her mother had been a patient many
years ago, and she came in and brought me heror
X rays and she said that I've been to five
doctors and they all say I need surgery. Well, we

(09:08):
did my adjustments. I check everything from head to toe,
no matter what the problem, and I did my break
that free from the feet and ankle side and from
the upper body side, and it broke free beautifully. It
had been jammed for a long time and if you
don't get that open, you can't heal it. It's all

(09:31):
mashed up. It just gets inflamed, and pretty soon you
get calcium deposits. And if you leave a joint in
the body closed up long enough with no motion, it
thinks you're not going to use it. So it brings
in the little older guy with the calcium and he
starts closing it up. That's why we need to keep

(09:51):
things moving. So anyway, we did the adjustment on her
and when she came in, she's what we call an
antalgic posture and a fancy way of saying, she's not
standing normal because she hurts. And every time I adjust them,
and it's so fun. After a while you get to

(10:13):
see this. They're getting up when we're done, and they're
expecting that pain they had when they came in the door. Well, luckily,
most all the time, that first visit is like a
miracle to them. Sometimes it takes a couple of visits

(10:33):
to really get it healthy. But in her case, she'd
been doing this for years and seeing five different doctors
and everybody said surgery. And when she stood up, she
had no pain, no nothing. And her question was, and
I hear this a lot, why didn't anybody tell me

(10:55):
that this could be done? And I said, well, one,
not many doctors do this anymore, I'm told And two,
there's a lot more money to be made surgery, operating room,
fill in the hospital, bed, medications, nurses in a hospital. State.

(11:16):
People are gonna make a lot of money if you
give into the surgery. So anyway, I hadn't seen her
for quite a while, and then she came in one
more time, and then she was going for a state
license in a particular field, and that was. One of

(11:38):
the reasons she had came to me was she could
not sit through the length of the original test, so
she had to hold off getting her license on this
state board. And that was why she had to stop,
because I can't sit long enough to take the test.

(11:58):
The pressure was too bad. So it was very fun
and I've got to see that many many times, and
I'd just been very fortunate that what I do works.
And I guess one of the reasons I know how
to do it is I had the same back problems.
So then what I tell people. They'll always say, well,

(12:22):
when should I come see you again? I said, I
don't know. I said, if you went to a management
system office, they'll tell you three times a week for
about six months. And I said, but that's not true.
I said, your body's going to tell you when you

(12:43):
need to get back in. But we need to do
things on the inside because what we did was only
fifty percent of the situation, and if we don't heal
the inside, nothing we do is going to matter on
the physical side. So one of the things I recommend
is an inversion table for home and some products so

(13:08):
we can deal with the acute situation. The inflammation, the swelling,
the damage, the soft tissue damage, and then that healed
the disk and all that area around there. So in
my office, I've got a heavy duty patient inversion table

(13:33):
because we've tried cheaper one years ago and a big
old boy got on it and it broke and he
went to the floor, which was only three inches further,
but it was still embarrassing. The ladies that I worked
with back then had found this inversion table and it
looked pretty good, so we tried it and it didn't work.

(13:55):
You need something in your home that you need to
decide are we going to let a bunch of people
use it or just my family, because that can differentiate
between how much money you need to spend. Do you
need one like for an office or one just for home.
So most of the cases they'd find Amazon and they

(14:20):
had a lot of them, and also Academy, the sports
store carried them for about one hundred bucks back then,
so that I would tell them, you get into version
table and it's got numbers on there for your height,
So if only you're going to use it, set it
for your height and forget about it. If you're going

(14:41):
to use it with somebody else, then you need to
change it or help them do it. But if you
set it for your height, you can lay down on it,
raise your arms up and it'll lower and then bring
your arms back and it'll come back. So it'll do that.
In in my office, what I do is I manually
lower them and bring them back, lower them, bring them back,

(15:05):
and I do that three times. And what we're doing
is we broke it free. We took all the pressure off,
and now the inversion table helps us stretch it out
and keep it decompressed. Then I always acutely recommend cataplex
ACP because it will help with inflammation, swelling, and soft

(15:29):
tissue repair. And then I either go to Ligaplex two
our Glucosamine Synergy, because glucosamine Synergy has a little bit
of lligaplex two, it has boswelia for healing and inflammation,
and it also has the glucosamine, so glucosamine hydrates. So

(15:55):
if you use these products, I've found that the end
side will heal very well and then I don't need
to see them very often. And some of the patients
would say, well, Doc, you fixed me up so good,
I'm not going to need to come see you much,

(16:16):
and I said, well, I know you're not used to that,
but in the real world, the doctor's job is to
fix it where you don't have to come in very often.
If you're only thinking about money, you would lie and
say three times a week for six months, which is
good for the doctor's office and very bad for the

(16:37):
patient and a nightmare with a lot of the insurance
companies nowadays. So if you get a home and version
table and you use it, like a lot of people
are on their feet all day, they do a lot
of bending. Maybe you're working in the garden, maybe you

(16:58):
work construction. Whatever you're doing is tough on your back,
especially as we get a little older. So you come
home and you get on that inversion table for a
minute or two. At least three or four times a

(17:19):
week every day is probably a little better, depending on
what you do and how bad your back is, and
you make sure to maintain that you're doing Glucosamine synergy
are Legaplex two, the cataplex ACP. I usually don't worry
about after we finish a bottle for a cute stuff.

(17:44):
And I'm not going to mention Susie's name, but a
couple of times I've said we need to get some
more ACP, and she still had it on the shelf
because she used it, got better and put it in there.
She's probably got a medicine cabinet like mine. But these
things will help you a lot. Now, I had a
young lady in my office and she let the back

(18:09):
thing flare up a few times, and she was doing
some things. I told her, you got to be careful
and you got to take the stuff for the inside
and make sure you don't do the bad stuff lifting
and doing things. She was doing a lot of heavy
lifting in her job. Well, she came in one time

(18:30):
they called me on a holiday and said she couldn't walk.
So I said, all right, literally walked away from the
table that we were eating and took care of her.
And she said to me, this has happened twice in
like three months. And I said, well, number one, you

(18:56):
need in version table at home. Number two, you're not
taking the products that I recommended, so it'll heal. And
I said, but if you go to the wrong place
and they make their living with the knife, they will
convince you that you need surgery and that never ends well.
Usually when you have the problem they will go in

(19:19):
and cut out the disk and fuse the vertebrae together.
Now you've lost range of motion and movement. And what
they have found is that the joint above and the
joint below the fusion tend to degenerate more rapidly, and
then they like to do steroids shots. So anyway, I

(19:40):
told her all this and she called me one day
and she said, I'd like to get an MRI on
my little back. What do you think? And I said,
that's a great idea. You'll see what I've been talking
about and then maybe you'll listen and let me give
you the products and get the inversion table. Well, she
never called me after she got the MRI, so I

(20:04):
know what happened. She went to an orthopedic surgeon. They
convinced her to cut and she probably did. And it's
so sad because she was young, but her job had
caused her a lot of pain and poor lifting and
sometimes working when you didn't have enough people. So I

(20:25):
know what they did and I've never seen it ever
do good. So but she never she never even called
me back. And I'm the one that spent two hours
setting up the MRI, so that was kind of disappointing.
But that's the only time I know that somebody chose
to do something else. I don't know for sure what

(20:46):
because she never called back. But everybody that we had
got to first never needed surgery and they did just fine. Susie.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
H Yeah, it's uh, it's brings up you know, some bad,
bad memories or whatever, you know, family member. That's all
I'm gonna say. I saw a picture. My sister in
law sent me a picture for you know.

Speaker 6 (21:20):
It was Easter.

Speaker 5 (21:21):
They were all standing there. They were all dressed up
and it looked like they were outside of a church
and at least it was a brick building and my
brother had a cane. So yeah, I'm not so happy.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah, it's always sad, especially when the alternative is so
much better, so much cheaper, and so much healthier. Bill,
do we lose? Bill shows that we still got him

(21:55):
on the phone? Bill? Are you there not anymore? You
heard what?

Speaker 7 (22:07):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah, he's calling him back. Hey, Bills, are you Bill?
We're not getting him for some reason. All right, guys,
sorry for this. We're gonna I'm gonna clear the bluetooth

(22:31):
out and bring it back up and see if that
fixes it.

Speaker 6 (22:35):
It had to be difficult, all right, Yeah, so we
don't have daddy.

Speaker 5 (22:50):
I guess I'm gonna say something. I just don't understand
what these orthopedics doctors say people to scare him so bad.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Well, they tell them, they tell them you it's not
going to get better. I've heard them tell people that stuff,
and that's what they believe because they're taught that what
we do. They don't know what we do, so they
don't know what to do, and it's it's sad.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
I don't want to know what you do because it
doesn't make as much money.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
All right, we'll calling Bill back. Let's see what happens.
I'm starting to take this personal. I'm going to need
a head doctor.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
I don't know if there's any hope for that.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
What happened, Bill, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
All of a sudden, you were talking about stairs, you're
taking a race? You Yeah, then that was it?

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (23:48):
And the clock was still running and the show, the
connection was still there.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
But yeah, it told me you were connected. So I
don't know what happened. All right, Well, I was going
to you to see if you had any comments of
what we just talked about.

Speaker 8 (24:05):
Oh yeah, no, I think again, you know, one of
the things that is such a contant with when you
talk about these kinds of things is really self awareness
of being aware of how you're doing and how you're feeling,
and what works and what doesn't, and uh, really really

(24:28):
be objective about our condition.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
And I think that's really important to keep hitting this.
So that was good.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, Well, you know, I have been blessed gallbladders and
any kind of surgery that had to do with spine
unless they had some horrible accent or something like that,
and then they've already had the surgery for I meet them.
But everybody that I got to first that gave us

(25:01):
a chance never needed the surgery and did just fine.
I had one gentleman that he'd get the feeling really good,
and then he'd go do too much and forget and
bend the wrong way and all that stuff. And one
day his wife pulled up with him outside and said, help,

(25:23):
I can't get him in. And he didn't have an appointment,
but he had been feeling real good, and she had
a list of honeydews about pulling some bushes out of
the ground, and instead of trying to dig them up,
he'd been over and tried to pull him up, and
the physics of that is as you pull up, compresses

(25:43):
the spine and lit him up and he could not walk.
So we got him in and we got him freed
up and he could walk again, and he was going
to take the products, but I said, you know what,
I'm not much for the test, but I think you
need an MRI and a current X ray so you

(26:07):
understand what's going on and maybe you'll quit doing these
things and get this healed up. So we sent him
and came back. I think he had five bulging disc
in his low back. Most people usually have L four
L five, maybe L five S one for the sacrum,

(26:33):
sometimes L three L four, but I had never seen five.
This poor guy's back was in bad shape. But we
got it turned around. He did well, and we just
had to get it to heel. I don't think she
was as big on the products because it wasn't covered
by insurance, so that was a problem. But that was

(26:55):
the most I ever seen, and he didn't need surgery.
And a lot of people think surgery is a quick fix,
but I've not seen at work. They usually have the
problem of the loss of movement, range of motion and
the degeneration above and below the discs that got removed.

(27:17):
So I don't think that's a good thing, and I
wouldn't want it done to me unless there was no
other choice. But luckily we've healed a lot of people.
We saw a lot of miracles, I guess, and the
ones that stuck with the products, and I would see
them every once in a while. But they got an
inversion table. That was a big thing. Almost everybody got

(27:41):
an aversion table. And I remember this gentleman, Danny. He
was probably mid seventies when I met him, and he said,
you know, you should have never told me about that
aversion table, because after you adjusted me and broke all
that free, I can get on there at the end

(28:02):
of the day and it really helps. I won't have
to come back in probably And I said, well, Danny,
that's what I'm supposed to do. I'm not supposed to
not fix you, so you have to keep coming back.
That wouldn't be very good. So it was pretty cool, Susie.
Anything before we get ready to.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
Go to break, you know, adversion to the cost of
the supplements, which in my opinion it's not that much,
is I don't know. I don't want to chastise anyone.
But I hadn't, virtually never, for a few times, even

(28:43):
thought about the cost. I mean, for many reasons. Uh,
you know. One of the number one reason is I
don't want to go to a doctor and sit for
an hour and wait to have, you know, be able
to sit in front of you know, the blessed and

(29:03):
kissing the ring for ten minutes, you know, for him
to throw out a dangerous pharmaceutical or I mean, I've
even had the steroid thing pushed on me before. I
mean I denied it. I wouldn't do it. That was
long before I knew you I know what it did
to my mother, and so it take me long to

(29:26):
you know, to wrap my head around something. But that's
the cost. I keep saying. You know how many times
a month do you go out to eat? You know,
how many vacations do you go on? You know how
many useless things do you buy full back a little
bit and buy your standard process that doc recommends.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, it really makes the difference. That One of the
things that I don't think people understand either is when
they come to me, I'm only using products that have
proved themselves. I'm not in sales. I'm in healthcare. I'm
not going to recommend something to you because I get
a couple dollars for it. It's not like the MDS

(30:13):
where you get five hundred and sixty dollars rebated back
from the pharmaceutical company for every prescription that you write
that is not a generic name, and they get a
lot of money. So people are so used to that
and their leary and a lot of times like I

(30:33):
had a guy not too long ago let him do
prostate surgery and I didn't find out till months later
because he's a friend and we all love motorcycles, and
we were talking. He told me what he went through,
and he said it was the most painful, horrible thing
he ever been through in his life. And I said,

(30:54):
why didn't you call me? He said, I don't believe
in all that stuff straight up. So he chose the
surgery instead. And it's just very sad. But if you
got an inversion table, ladies and gentlemen, you might you
might spend one hundred bucks or a little more. Nowadays,
I don't know what they cost anymore. Mine was more

(31:17):
than that because I bought an office type that's going
to be used a lot of times every week. But
the little bit of money you do spend on that
inversion table and the products will save you a fortune later.
And even more important than that, the pain. I know

(31:39):
the pain. I went six months where I couldn't stand
up straight. It hurts to sleep, It hurt to move,
it hurt. The only thing that felt good was a recliner.
Everything else I was miserable. So I know that pain
and that feeling, and that's how I learned to get

(32:01):
really good at fixing it. So all right, well we're
at break time. Bill, anything before.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
Break don't really wait?

Speaker 2 (32:10):
All right, well, ladies and gentlemen, this is doctor Krupa's
Natural Health Hours. We've got Susie Bill, our producer, hidden
in the background, Steve and me and we will all
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All Right, we are back. Welcome back to doctor Croupus
Natural Health Hours. Susy. That's one time I don't think
you could say what did he do? She must have
done something. Anyway, we are back. We got Susie Bill,
myself our producer in hiding because I think Indiana wants him.

(35:42):
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(36:03):
need to get ahold of Susie Bill or myself, just
go to the website and you can contact us that way.
I mentioned a while back, I had a gentleman that
contacted me and said that he'd gone down the wrong
road and having issues with the family because they were
upset that he didn't do more of what they wanted.

(36:26):
And I explained everything to him, and I guess he
didn't like what I said. I don't know, and so
I never heard from him again. Very disappointing when that happens.
So you do the best you can. You try to
be honest with people, try to be respectful. And I

(36:48):
always try to talk to everybody like if it was
me the patient, and I figure that works the best,
but not always does that work very well? All right,
we got out. We got Steve's joke today that he
sent me. Said that a woman went to the doctor's

(37:09):
office and she was given six months to live and asked,
what you know, what do you recommend? And he says,
Mary an economist and moved to Idaho. And she said,
is that gonna take care of me? Fix me up?

Speaker 5 (37:30):
What?

Speaker 2 (37:31):
And he said, no, you're not gonna live any longer,
but it'll feel like an eternity. I changed a word
or two up because I had to remember it from
a text. But I thought that was kind of funny.
An economist in Idaho doesn't sound too exciting. And then

(37:51):
here we got one they say God has a sense
of humor, that God someone where. I don't remember if
this is a psalm or the Old Testament or what,
but anyway, it said God told man that there would

(38:12):
be a faithful woman in all the corners of the world.
And then God went and made the earth round. I
thought that was pretty good. Pretty good. Reminded me of

(38:34):
Bill Cosby and Noah when he kept raising hell and
complaining and finally God said, Noah, how long can you
tread water? That stopped that? All right, So Susie and
Bill go to you first. Susie, anything on any of
this stuff we talked about before we went to break No,

(39:02):
I mean no, you and Bill have started your own
evil union and you've just been doing that on purpose
to me. No, no, no, Bill, I know what you're
gonna say about my ask.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
Anyway, I'm gonna take a pass on it. But one
of the you know you said, this guy said that
he just didn't believe in you all that stuff, like
the stuff I'm assuming was the natural healthcare. And I

(39:37):
think that's a fairly common outlook about a lot of folks,
is that they're just very skeptical of of anything that
doesn't have the medical stamp of approval on it. And
it's so, as you said, you know, people have to
make up their own mind about this and they go

(39:57):
to their own place with it. But so it's discouraging.
But as you said, you know, we all have to
make our own choices. About that and decide how we're
going to live on lives.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Yeah, And unfortunately, for a lot of people, even the
ones that end up coming to me, a lot of
times I was their last hope. The next stop would
have been the guy at the martuary. They tried everything,

(40:34):
and then somebody told them about me. I had the reason.
I have patients all over the country, and a few
in Canada. Is some of them I met when they
were vacationing visiting family in the Houston Katie area. Some
of them from the radio shows that we've done for

(40:56):
a long time on several networks, and a lot of
times they'd already tried things everywhere and they just wanted
somebody to help and be honest and fair. And I've
been blessed with the ability to see a lot of

(41:16):
the good things happen. We always say the miracles because
the politics of all the craziness, but now those people
are still there years and years later. I was telling
Steve we talked off air a few days ago, and

(41:36):
there's somebody that remembers me from a show when I
was on American Voice, and they also remember me when
I was on Steve's show as a guest and also
he had me fill in one time when something came
up and they remembered us from back then, So they

(42:01):
may not listen to every network we're on or whatever's
going on, but they remembered and then they would call
and say, hey, what do you think I ought to
do about this? And that was always kind of cool.
And it's funny. Steve and I were talking, there's somebody
that we know that absolutely hates the digital world, the electronics,

(42:28):
cell phones, the computers, all that stuff. They hate it,
but they're doing their own show right now. And last
time I looked, all that stuff is electronic and digital.
So it's kind of funny. Sometimes you just have to
give in and you know, get past some of those

(42:48):
things that you hate. I know the person, and Steve
and Susie know them, so it's not surprise to us.
But I went and tuned in to check out and
just to see what they were doing and what kind

(43:09):
of stuff they were talking about. But it's really funny
when you have people that cannot stand cell phones and
computers and all that and then finally they cave in
and go do their own show. And you got to
use all that stuff whether you like it or not,
whether you're using it or the people at the station
are using it, you got to do it. So people

(43:32):
get hung up on things like that. People get hung
up on like that gentleman that told me. And this
was a good friend of mine, but I don't see
him that often. But we share the love of motorcycles
and we have some mutual friends, and just out of
the blue we connected. And that's when he told me

(43:55):
the most horrible, painful things he ever did was when
they did the prostate. And I said, man, all you
had to do was call me. There's no telling how
much help we could have been. And his exact words were,
you know, I don't believe in that stuff. Well I
didn't know until then how strongly he didn't believe. I mean,

(44:20):
he chose. He explained the pain to me, and he
said the doctor told him when they were doing something
with the prostate, that this is going to hurt a
little bit. And he said it was the most excruciating
pain he'd ever had in his life, and he'd had
a lot of pain in his life. So I'm always

(44:43):
surprised if people don't give you a chance to help,
because what are you going to lose? A few bucks
on some products that might work. A lot of times
people are doing things when I meet them that are
detrimental that absolutely work against what's going on. So if

(45:05):
I can get you in an inversion table and taking
a few products to heal, and then we cut back.
The way I've always tried to do it is in
the beginning when I meet people, they got a lot
going on, so you need a few more products to start,
and then as you're doing better, we'll cut that back.

(45:27):
Sometimes we got to kick it up. Sometimes there's things
that are still annoying and you've got to knock them out,
and then you can start backing up. And then once
you get better and better, then we all we have
to do is a few things to maintain it. But
sometimes things can be pretty annoying, pretty painful. Sometimes it

(45:49):
can be cognitive, it can be cancer, it can be
a stroke. It just depends. But it sure beats surgeries
and all the other things if you just give it
a chance, and then if you want to go do
whatever because you don't like whatever the results were, which

(46:09):
I've never had that happen. If we got a chance,
then you do what you need to do. But we've
been pretty blessed. Helped a lot of people, and a
lot of people told a lot of people years ago,
they used to try to get you to advertise on
all these things, and I tried a couple of them

(46:29):
and just wasted money. But what I noticed is people
start coming in. So and so said this, that's why
I'm here, and I'll never forget this wonderful lady one
of my patients. And he's no longer in the world, unfortunately,
he passed a couple of years ago. But he came

(46:52):
to me with plantar fasciitis, which is a fancy way
of saying the fascia on the bottom of your foot
is inflamed and spasming, and it is pulled tight and
you're miserable. And usually that happens because the joints are fixated,

(47:14):
and once they get fixated, they don't move right. And
then the muscles on the bottom of your feet and
the fashion that connects all that spasms and locks up
and it hurts bad. So what I would do, I
would get in there and adjust the feet and ankles,
and then I would take my thumb and it was terribly,

(47:35):
terribly painful sometimes and break that fascia up and then
I would do ultrasound, EASTEM and laser, and then I
would put them on some medications to heal. But just
breaking that up and healing it was a big deal

(47:56):
because the foot was fixated and it normally when you walk,
your foot kind of floats. The joints move well. Plantar
fasciitis is something happened. You stepped funny, You slept funny,
and the joints aren't moving, so everything locks up trying
to protect you, but it doesn't know when to let go,
and it hurts like hell. So this patient, he got better.

(48:22):
When I met him, he had a boot on it.
And in those days, the pediatrist put everybody in a
four hundred dollars boot and they walked around with that.
It didn't fix anything. It just made a few hundred
dollars for the pediatrist and it really didn't even give

(48:44):
any relief at all to the patient. And the problem
never got better from doing that. So they'd come in
wearing this four hundred dollars boot, and so we got
him better. Him and I became great friends. He used
to bring in tickets for sports that his company had,

(49:06):
and it was this really nice guy and one day,
this lady comes in and she said, he's my cousin,
and she said, he said he used to have plantar
fasci itis, but you helped him. And she said the

(49:27):
key thing in my sentence was he said he used
to have it. That's why I'm here. So I said, okay,
and we fixed her up. It wasn't a big deal,
and she couldn't believe it, and then she tells people.
So there was no reason to advertise. And then everybody
came to my office every visit. You were on the

(49:49):
inversion table, and so that pretty soon they start buying
inversion tables for home, and that helped them a lot,
and we carried back in those days. I had a
lot of products in the office, so when they came in,
I had what they needed almost always. Sometimes I might

(50:09):
have to order something, but I usually had it. But
they all got better and that was a lot of fun.

Speaker 5 (50:15):
So Susie, Yeah, I've done the planter of plant cark
goddess thing. I didn't even know what it was, and
I'm not think it was ten years ago, maybe twelve
years ago. And I had a little antique vintage store

(50:39):
and it had concrete floors and so I had gotten
a new pair of shoes out at Jacy Penny and
they were sketchers. And so after about three or four days,
I'm in so much pain I can hardly walk, and

(51:01):
so I'm I'm like soaking my feet and then I realized,
you know, there's there's this hump on the back of
my heel, and I'm like, what on earth is this?
I had no idea. I never had anything like it,
and so of course I got online and red but
this time I got the truth and so I ended
up getting this little ball and you know, just working

(51:26):
it on the instep and of course I had no idea.
Well you're so far away from me, and you know,
I think I had told you. But yeah, it does
seize up. So you know, there was There's been times
when I thought about, you know, head in your direction
and going, okay, fix this, but uh it really I

(51:51):
think it was after I jumped off the deck and
I kind of messed with my knee and so the
combination of the knee and the plant offacciatis was you know, problematic.
And so I grow this plant called comfrey, and so

(52:11):
I don't know if I'm stepping on toes for bringing
it up. But I mean, I think we ought to
try everything. And you know, since I can't just jump
in the vehicle that doesn't run and head down to you.
Last weekend I made some comfrey save. So last year,
throughout the girling season, I had continued to pick those

(52:35):
big old leaves and dry them and then put them
in a baggage. So I had a pretty good sized stash.
And so I dusted off a recipe that I had
had for a long time. I don't know if I
ever actually made it. And then it was just olive
oil and uh and and those leaves you just chop

(52:57):
them up and you put them in a bowl and
pour the olive oil on top. It needs to stay
below one hundred and forty degrees, so I just set
it on my keep warm burner. And so the next
day I strained off this oil and it was, you know,
a beautiful color. You know, it's kind of a dark

(53:20):
forest green. And then I put it back in my
bowl and added the right amount, which ends up being
one ounce of beeswax. And so then I poured that
into some little kins that I had And I'm going
somewhere with this, and y'all are going to believe it.

(53:41):
And so after it had set up and it's solidified,
it didn't take long. I got me a sock because
I know, okay, this is greasy olive oil, and I
put it all over my heel and the bottom of
my foot and then I put a sock on it.
And so for the first time in years, five years,

(54:05):
six years, there's no pain and I can flex my
ankle where it was it almost felt like it was
seized up. So of course my shoulder, you know, for
the same thing jumping off the deck, and I was like, huh, well, okay,

(54:26):
one treatment on my ankle on the plant, Profestiotis, and
I've got this result. I'm put on my shoulder, my bicep,
and I still am taking everything that you know you've
got me taking. I think my inflammation is a little

(54:48):
more exaggerated, maybe than a lot of patients. So I
just felt like I needed to do that. And the
celts are just amazing. I have virtually no pain in
my by set.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
And the reason that works is because you're dealing with
the inflammation. But if you get in there and adjust
that ankle and foot or the shoulder, it clears up
almost immediately, and then what you did would have been compensating.

Speaker 5 (55:28):
Fact your arm and I looked at him, I.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Said, no, yeah, well and and that's fine. Uh. The
problem is, just like with the foot, the the joints
locked up and that's why it spasms and it pulls
the Achilles tendon across the heel and if you let

(55:52):
it go long enough, you get a bone spur. So
what you did, in a roundabout way is you help
deal with that inflammation, and that stuff soaked in and
lubricated you a little bit. So you still need to
have the foot nkel adjusted and the shoulder adjusted, but
you helped it where it could move and relieved a

(56:13):
lot of pain by doing that. And that was a
pretty good idea.

Speaker 5 (56:16):
So well, the nickname for comfrey is knitbone, you know,
And before the Rockefellers ruined everything and made people say
I don't believe in that stuff, doctors were using that
stuff for sprains, infractures and even broken bones. Now I

(56:37):
don't think it's going to help a compound fracture, but yeah,
it's called nitbone. That's the that's the nickname for this stuff.
And they would just literally make a compress and put
it in the affected area.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Yeah, well, it's about the inflammation. Like I said, uh,
with with the people that I ran into, some of
them already were at the bone spur level, and so
what you did would still help with the pain and inflammation,
but it needed to be adjusted and free up the fixation.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
So yeah, I can agree with that. But going virtually
immobile in that and that ankle, to being able to
just like tirl my foot around like this never happened,
just blew my mind.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Yeah. Well, if I remember, didn't we teach your husband
a little bit of working on you too back then?

Speaker 5 (57:44):
Because I remember, Nicole, I don't remember. We've done the
leg part and that helps a lot.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Yeah, well, Comfrey is still used. It's a it's a
thing that's still out there and it's still used. So
you'll see comforty all right, Bill anything?

Speaker 4 (58:04):
Oh no, I In fact, I haven't heard of nitbo
for years, But early in college there was a place
in Saint Louis called the Missouri Botanical Garden, and they
had a large herb garden and offered a h three

(58:24):
or four sessions seminar on growing different herbs and what
what their use was, and and the nitbo was one
of those things. I haven't heard of that for well
a number of decades, but it was. Uh, these these
plants have been around for hundreds and hundreds of years,

(58:45):
and people have been using them for for healthier life,
for t taking care of problems, for taking care of
specific problems. And it's always nice to hear hear somebody
you come up with that again like that.

Speaker 5 (59:01):
You know the contrary, if you you can probably find
you know, root stock online. But the way I heard
it explained was you only have to buy a comfry
plant once. Uh, it's prolific. You know, not only does
it help in our bodies, but it's extremely helpful to
plant around fruit trees that includes pecan trees, and not

(59:27):
right up against it, but maybe about at you know,
the drip edge on a smaller tree, and you can literally,
I mean I need to do it to mine. Now
you can dig up the plant and then I could
probably get maybe four crowns out of it. But the

(59:49):
long roots, as long as you have about a two
inch segment of root, you could plant each one of
those two inch segments of roots and make new plans
and have more than you know what to do with.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Well, the thing is you got some relief, and that's wonderful.
And and by getting rid of the inflammation, you may
allow things to free up a little bit. If you
quit trying to jump off the deck and commit suicide slowly,
you wouldn't have that problem. But you know, we know

(01:00:27):
how you are.

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
I know I'll probably won't try that again.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
I hope not. And what was it? What was the
name you and Bill were talking about that Bill said
he hadn't heard of knit bone bone?

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
Yeah, k n I t is in ditting.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Nick.

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
They also called it bone set, knit bone, bone set, uh,
slippery root. There's a whole bunch of names for it,
but Comfrey is the one that I've heard the most.
So pretty cool. I'm glad it worked. I'll be sending
you a bill on the mail. Let's see here, all right,
it is break time, guys, So ladies and gentlemen. This

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Speaker 10 (01:03:39):
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(01:04:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
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Speaker 10 (01:04:06):
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Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Every time, and now I don't need no jail ever.
Because you had a bad day.

Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
You take him on down.

Speaker 10 (01:04:22):
Sang the side song just to tie it around you,
sag me dumb though you tell me, don't.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Lie, you buy got a smile you got.

Speaker 10 (01:04:32):
You have a bad day, You tun it dup by
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Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Me dof mine. You have a day, you had a
bad day.

Speaker 10 (01:04:57):
Well you need a blue sky.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
What she said, and I don't need enough care.

Speaker 10 (01:05:11):
Take them up down, sing a sad song just to
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Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Sang it don though, Tell me all right we are back.
Welcome back to doctor Crips, not royal Towers. We have
got Bill's Weekly topic. So we're going to go right
to that because we're running a couple of minutes behind Bill,

(01:05:37):
Take it away, Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:05:42):
Once again, there was no backup music to these songs.
It reminded me that without a good backup band or
backup singers, most of these performers would never make it
because they've got terrible voices and they can't say, but
a good band will cover that up.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
That's really amazing. We've never had that happen before, and
I'm wondering if there's something that changed.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
I'm sure I did it because of technology, you know. Yeah,
I'm right with that guy who hates computers and cell phones. Young.
He's a good guy. Yeah, it's anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
It's funny when you get to a point in this
modern era where even if you hate all the electronics
and stuff, there's times when you're still gonna need.

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
It and you're stuck. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
You know, in the old days, you could pick up
the serious catalog and get anything you wanted. Hell, they
deliver a house. Now nobody does that. They tell you
go online, download her up. All right, take it away, Bill,
all right.

Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
This is something that came up in the last couple
of days and It's not really what I had intended
to talk about, but it's sort of related, and I'll
probably pick that up next week. But I was having
a conversation with a guy a couple of days ago

(01:07:16):
and he was telling me how much he hated research,
and I thought this needs to be talked about again.
We talked about it on the show some months ago,
but I think that we need to really understand a
little bit more about what that is. When somebody says research,

(01:07:39):
the first picture that comes to mind is a guy
in a lab coat sitting around with bubbles coming out
of bottles and tubes going all over the place, and
he's doing experiments, or is some guys messing around with
statistics and coming up with all sorts of ideas about
this and that, And well, yes, that's part of what

(01:08:01):
research is. That's really kind of on the edge. And
one of the things that I really was was came
came about from this conversation I had the other day
was just what what is research and what does it mean?
And basically, research is just the acquisition of knowledge as

(01:08:27):
a scholarly pursuit. We do we look at sources, we
develop some kinds of ideas about things. This particular gentleman
was talking about having read six different versions of the Bible. Well,
that's research. Why did you well, I'm sorry, I know

(01:08:52):
you wouldn't want me to use your name. Why did
Why did he feel that he needed to do to
read six versions of that was because he was comparing them.
That's what research is, look at We go back to
original sources, we look at things, we draw conclusions and
we say, hm, that's interesting. And I think most research

(01:09:15):
comes from people who have who are interested in a
lot of things. I know, and again it is a
real research is a scholarly, scholarly pursuit, and that's ideally
what people in colleges and universities do teach. But the

(01:09:38):
whole aspect of what do we do with all of
this once we get it, now, that's up to us.
I don't know. I mean when I mean, I've done
a lot of things that I've spent years researching particular
areas of linguistics or looking with manuscripts in the twelfth

(01:10:01):
or thirteenth century looking for particular things. Is it going
to change the world. No, But it satisfies part of
my curiosity. And I think a curious mind is something
to be treasured. So when this gentleman told me that
he had read six different versions of I thought that

(01:10:23):
that's great. That's just great, maybe because here's here's a
curious mind who's looking for something. And I think through research,
we don't always have a specific goal in mind, but
we're driven nonetheless to pursue it. Part of the difficulty

(01:10:44):
that I think those of us from an academic background
encountered was a thing called thesis driven research, which is
where you have a topic that you're trying to support
or trying to find some truthful and you will look
at almost any form of support for that as you

(01:11:07):
can find, as long as it supports your hypothesis. And
I think true research is just an open door. We
don't always know what we're going to find on the
other side of it, and I think that that's really
what draws the difference between our perception of research for

(01:11:27):
the white lab coats or people who do studies. And
I know I've talked about studies in my opinion of that,
but once more and certainly in the academic field, if
we read studies or psychological studies or psychiatric studies or
medical studies, they're usually written to get tenure, they're written

(01:11:49):
for academic stature, they're compared, and it's not always true.
I mean, they're probably not as often as I would
have imagined. But have a different take on what the
ultimate benefit and effect of research is. And as you've

(01:12:11):
often said, you know, we may not always like the
kind of statistical output that a lot of researchers enjoy,
but we always can pick up some stuff from that.
We can always learn from that, and so there is
a benefit from it, and I think there's there is
a place for that. I think when we begin to

(01:12:32):
rely too heavily on statistical interpretation, that then creates a problem.
Is my statistics instructor in college said, well, you know,
numbers don't lie. That's true. Numbers don't lie. It's just
the people that mess with them that lie, and they

(01:12:54):
try to prove a point and they try to make
the numbers fit something that they're trying to asserts as valid.
I have a problem with that. Academically, from a scholarly
point of view, I have a problem with that. I
think it's our job is scholars to present material, to
present things that we have found that are germane to

(01:13:19):
what we're after that, people will draw their own opinions.
And you know, I talked a couple of weeks ago
about patterns. This is part of the discussion I had
about the rituals and habits. But patterns, when we're doing research,
it's one of the things that we look for as patterns.

(01:13:39):
And I'm thinking again linguistic and certainly that's true musically.
If we're looking at a at a symphonic work, we're
looking for different kinds of structural patterns, of melodic patterns,
harmonic patterns that tie a peach together. What can we

(01:14:01):
what can we infer from that knowledge of those patterns?
Who knows? It doesn't matter, I uh as I say,
I kind of want to get into this a little
bit next week, because it's part of the process that
reading six different versions of the Bible have to do.

(01:14:23):
Is the recognition of patterns, linguistic patterns, Patterns that occur
or recur from translations or just linguistic problems or language
problems or the time cultural problems of time in which
the translation was done make tremendous differences in how we

(01:14:46):
use that That the knowledge of that research, of that
of that endeavor that scholarly endeavor? What do we what
do we do with that? Research doesn't shouldn't be really
provide answers. It should provide questions, It should They should
move us to ask more questions, It should move us

(01:15:08):
to wonder more about things. The point was brought up
in that conversation a couple of days ago, Well, how
do we know what to believe? Yeah, that's a good question.
How do we know what to believe? We didn't do
the research, We have to take somebody's word for it.
There is some very kinds of basic giveaways to determined,

(01:15:35):
hopefully the validity of relation of research. But ultimately, yeah,
what do we what? What do we believe? How do
we know? How do we know that what we're reading
or what we're what we're working with is trustworthy enough
to uh to take at base value? Tough question, and

(01:15:57):
I think this gets back to a very primal issue
of the difference between knowledge and belief. We struggle with
this duality every day of our lives. We do research
every day of our lives. We wonder about things, We
make up our mind about things, We look at for patterns,

(01:16:18):
we look at evidence in front of us, and we
kind of make decisions that's research. That's research. It's not
the formal, structural stuff that gets presented in a long paper,
but it nonetheless is the same kind of process. And
I think that we looking at the amount of information

(01:16:39):
that's available. And I've read a short say, I didn't
read the whole thing, but I read most of it.
A guy was talking about what a tremendous intellectual impact
social media has had on our ability to say to

(01:17:02):
social media, we can get answers to almost any question
in seconds, but we never think about it. And the
thing that struck me about having read six versions of
the White Bible, is it there's something to think about here.
This is this is a lot of food for thought,
and a lot of food for direction of our own

(01:17:26):
perspectives and our own way of living our lives, and
how that, how that changes things. If all of this
information is just available to us instantaneously, we never have
to think about anything. The danger is how reliable is
that information? Fifty percent reliable forty seventy two. Just because

(01:17:49):
it's on the Internet doesn't mean it's true, as Mark
Twain observed. And I think that remembering that we are
thinking individuals and we have the capability to reason and
the capability to find some sense of order within our life.

(01:18:16):
We need to cherish that, we need to develop, that,
we need to continue to use it, we change. I
certainly don't think the same way about things now that
I did thirty forty years ago, and we're i to
live another thirty forty years of God forbid, I'm sure
I wouldn't think differently about a lot of stuff at

(01:18:36):
that point. But the critical word there is think and
our ability to reason and our ability to think about
things and a sort of way through it. The answers
that we come up with today may not be the
same answer as tomorrow. That's fine, that's what it's supposed
to be. But it is the result of our process.

(01:19:00):
That was That was really what that that conversation triggered
in me was a kind of revisiting the whole process
of of where do we go with research? Where do
we go with all this information that's out there. It's

(01:19:22):
I'm to the stage in my life when I prefer
to not venture into new areas a whole lot, But
I'm revisiting a great deal of things that I have
spent time in in my life. But I'm looking at
it very differently than I did when I came up
with the concepts initially. It's important to to like to

(01:19:47):
not let that curiosity die and to keep it, to
keep some some sense of looking for truth, whatever that is.
You know, truth is is a very culturally defined absolute.
It's a something that are is pretty much determined by

(01:20:10):
our own personal life experience as well as by our culture.
You know what what was accepted as truth thirty years
ago is maybe not so much now, And I think
that that's the way it should be. But nonetheless, it's
it's a process of, as you to use your word,

(01:20:31):
a cognitive process of taking a hard look at a
lot of this kind of stuff and and being okay
with taking a hard look at it because that's what
that's what thinking minds are supposed to do. That's what
research is all about. So, you know, I think a
doctor amount of research that you've done, and it may

(01:20:53):
not have been as formally structured as some might want
it to be here I think it should be. But
you've got years and years of experience. That's research. You've
got years and years of looking at how one activity
changes or causes another activity. It's research, and I think

(01:21:18):
that keeping that in mind as we're in the middle
of it is an important part of the process.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Funny, right, griggle, good stuff as always, and ladies and gentlemen.
He was being kind, but he was talking about me.
I have figured out from listening to him, and I
never thought about this before. But I've done a lot
of research. We all do, but it's usually because something

(01:21:47):
interests us, so we're trying to figure this out or
how to do this. And the reason I was so
negative on the way I thought about research was I
thought about like he said that, you know, we had
a class in medical school on research, and it was
during era. It was horrible, horrible, and then something happened.

(01:22:12):
You mentioned the paper on people's thesis. Well, I was
doing pre med at a junior college and we had
to write a paper, a research paper, and I guess
maybe this scarred me forever. I worked on it and

(01:22:33):
got it ready, and I would come straight from work
to the junior college on the nights I had classes,
and so I had my research paper done and I
walked in and I was the first one there because
I came straight from work, and I handed the professor

(01:22:57):
my research paper. Well, then everybody else finally comes into
class and he said, everybody got your papers done, and
it was oh no, and people moaned and groaned, and
he said, well, i'll tell you what. I'll give you
another week, but he kept mine. So now he's got

(01:23:20):
one research paper to grade for a week. And the
next week everybody turned theirs in and he gave mine
back and he wrote more on my paper than I wrote.
It was not a good experience. So I think that
stuck in my head. But Bill's right. I've read six Bibles,

(01:23:45):
different versions. I read the Koran. I read a fall
on Gong book because I had all these patients. I
read something on Hindu. I've read just about everything because
all these different patients from all these different religions came

(01:24:07):
to my office and they would bring up that subject
and we talk about it. So I read the books
because I was curious. But Bill, thanks to you making
me look at it different. I have to admit the
things I've researched were because I wanted. They were interesting,
and I was glad I researched them, And the best

(01:24:30):
research was reading.

Speaker 4 (01:24:33):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. It broadens a perspective and it makes
us look a little more deeply inside I never think
that's a bad thing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
No, it's good, Dan, And you're right, you definitely got
me to look at it differently, Cissy anything.

Speaker 5 (01:24:53):
Yes, you know, I went to school for you know,
interior Devine. I didn't have to write a thesis on
the interiage sign. Now, I did have to do a
very very very large project. So maybe it was just
a visual thesis. I don't know. Well, I think one

(01:25:13):
of the things that computers has done to a lot
of us, and I admit it is one of the
things I used to love to do when I had
time was just to the library and you know, they
had these wonderful little nooks and crannies, if you will,

(01:25:36):
where there was a big old leather chair and an
autumn and of course you could sit at the big
old oak tables. But I always liked to I had
a favorite corner, you know, that I would go and
I'll start you know, reading and researching, and that would
just okay, do a decimal cabinet here I come, because

(01:25:59):
it would just make me go down a rabbit trail
in so many different directions. But then you know, lo
and beheld. Probably about ninety eight they put a computer
in there and you could sign up for twenty minutes,
and so instead of going to the books, I was

(01:26:19):
going to the computer.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
Yep, and knowing you you were good at it right
off the bat.

Speaker 4 (01:26:31):
I think one of the really great experiences of a
lot of my university experience was going as as Susan
was saying, going to the library and walking down the
stacks of books and just picking one off the shelf
and looking at it. I didn't always know what I

(01:26:51):
was going to get into, but just to pull a
book off and start looking at it. I don't think
you can do that anymore. Yeah, I don't think they
got books.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
I don't know. I remember my first computer. It was
radio shack Tandy two thousand ssex was compared to today,
what a joke, But it was big time back then,
big time. All right, well we're close to break. Yeah.

(01:27:22):
You've definitely made me rethink research, bill, because it's a
whole different world when you stop and think that every
day is research. Reading the book is research. For me.
For a long time, I remembered that paper I turned
in that got graded only by itself, And then a

(01:27:44):
lot of times I thought about research with the very
boring some of those people like psychologists that are doing
research for companies and that that did not sound good
to me. But you're right. There's a whole other world
and I never really thought about it. So I thank

(01:28:07):
you for bringing that up and covering all that because
it's definitely interesting. All right, Susan, you've got some recipes
up your sleeve when we come back.

Speaker 5 (01:28:17):
I've got one. But I was doing some research.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
And see what you started to go.

Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
I was.

Speaker 5 (01:28:29):
At this particular website that's prlific for recipes, and I
was so shocked. I was insulted and just I mean
bewildered that I ran across a recipe for a sweet

(01:28:50):
tea margarita.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
All right, well, ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna go to
break uh this doctor Krupus Natural Health Hours April twenty third,
twenty twenty five, and we will be right back.

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Speaker 11 (01:30:20):
I remember walking around the Court Square sidewalks looking in
wins things I couldn't want. There's Johnson's hardware, Marm's jewelry, thely.

Speaker 7 (01:30:33):
King of the carry.

Speaker 11 (01:30:36):
They were the little man, a little man. I go
back now stores are empty set.

Speaker 2 (01:30:49):
The old coach signed.

Speaker 11 (01:30:50):
It in nineteen fifty ordered a black thing never existed,
were renovated and called the stoic disc.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
Goes a little man, There.

Speaker 7 (01:31:04):
Goes the little man.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
Now the course watt set the streets.

Speaker 11 (01:31:12):
People go around, but they sell the things about the
little man that built this town before the big money
shut him down.

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
To kill the little man.

Speaker 6 (01:31:28):
Off.

Speaker 11 (01:31:28):
The little man he pumped your gas and heat clean
your glass one the cool, rainy night. He fixture in
the flat new store came where you did yourself. You
buy a lot of tickets and food off the shelf.

Speaker 7 (01:31:48):
Forget the little man.

Speaker 11 (01:31:51):
Forget about that little man. He hung on there for a.

Speaker 4 (01:31:58):
Few more years. He couldn't sell slurtain.

Speaker 5 (01:32:02):
He wouldn't send a beer.

Speaker 11 (01:32:04):
Now the bank rents the station to a man down
the road, and they settle velvet elvins, the second hand clothes.

Speaker 7 (01:32:12):
Their does a little man.

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
There's another little man.

Speaker 3 (01:32:20):
Now the court square just down set.

Speaker 11 (01:32:23):
The streets if people go around, but they sell the.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
Thanks about the little man.

Speaker 11 (01:32:30):
It built this town before the big money shut him down.

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
All right, we are back. Welcome back to doctor Cruper's
Natural Health Dours. And we're gonna go help Susie with
the name of the company because she's drinking p Margarita's
or something. I know, she really confused me, so that
means she's probably a little too tipsy right now, so
we're gonna help her. The name of their company is

(01:33:02):
Rebuilding and Destruction.

Speaker 5 (01:33:06):
Susie, Well, generally it's ugly ran just we just didn't
rebuild it. But it's R and D. It's renovation and
design custom homes. You can go to Croup dot com,
go to the about page, scroll down, and that's three

(01:33:26):
quarters of the way, I think, And you can click
a link that will take you to our website and
we can be reached at A three zero three seven
seven two one three one?

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
Great bill. Did you have any music or just the words? Again,
just the words. I don't understand that. That's beyond my
that's very weird. Yeah, it's beyond my comprehension because it's
worked before when we did this, So I don't know.
Maybe our technicology.

Speaker 4 (01:34:00):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
Yeah, I can't imagine how.

Speaker 4 (01:34:04):
They can't sing worth it?

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
Damn, that's funny. All right, Susy take it away.

Speaker 6 (01:34:15):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:34:16):
I picked this one number one because I like it.
Number two because maybe the number one is because it
uses our steams cane pepper jelly. And I'll tell you what.
The more things you can do with that, the better
life is. And it's quick and it's easy and probably

(01:34:40):
y'all can do it. So you're going to preheat your
oven to three seventy five and then line a baking
sheet with parchment paper. I like to use the unbleached
partment paper So the very first ingredient is flour a
cup and a half, you know, be sure and you
use a good quality organic flour. You could use iron corn,

(01:35:04):
you could use your spelt flour, you could use any
ancient grain flour, just don't use the processed. A glass
of fate flour off the shelf, and then a half
a teaspoon of salt, quarter teaspoon of garlic powder, half
a cup of unsalted butter softened, and two cups of

(01:35:28):
sharp cheddar cheese, one egg yolk. I hate it when
it wastes the egg white butt. You know, you can
freeze those and use them. A tablespoon of water and
then three quarters of a cup of it, says hot
pepper jelly. But what we're recommending, because it's natural, because

(01:35:49):
it doesn't have bad ingredients and it's made with the
whole cane sugar, is the steams cane pepper jelly. I
can't get it in the grocery stores here now, I
haven't looked in a while at HV, but I can
get it off the Amazon, and it's it's reasonable. So

(01:36:14):
what you're gonna do, and these are called as i't
even tell you that cheesy thumbprint appetizers. You know, they
have like a thumbprint cookie. You know that you put
some kind of jam in the center of it, but
this is a savory version of that. And so in
a medium bowl, you're gonna lift together your flour and

(01:36:35):
your salt and garlic solvement. Set that aside. Then you're
going to in a larger bowl, beat your salt and
butter until it's creamy. Now you can do this in
your stand mixer as well, and then you're going to
add the cheddar, cheese, and nix until that's just well combined.

(01:36:59):
So you're gonna gradually add your dry ingredients to your
butter and cheese mixture and until it just comes together
as a dough. Then you're gonna add your egg yolk
and your water just till it comes together as a
really smooth dough and cohesive and it, you know, sticks together.

(01:37:22):
So you're gonna roll your dough into little one inch
balls and put them on your cookie sheet, spacing them
about two inches. And then you're gonna use your thim
with the back of a teaspoon to press a little
indentation into the center of each one of these balls.

(01:37:44):
And then You're gonna bake them for like ten to
twelve minutes and then let them cool for about five minutes,
you know, so they don't just break apart when you
try to, you know, put the A in it. So
then you're gonna put h I say jelly. I say
that loosely, but you know, the cane pepper jelly about

(01:38:11):
half a tea spin into each one of those little thumbprints,
and I'm just gonna let them cool a little bit
and then allow the jelly to uh to set up
some and then that's basically it. I'm looking to see

(01:38:33):
if it tells you how many it makes, it's got
to be quite a few. One thing that it does
say is that you can make these like a couple
of days in advance, like if you're gonna have you know,
party or you know, outdoor gathering. But I'm telling you

(01:38:54):
are between the cheese on this and the slight sweetness
of that pepper jelly, it's very satisfying. And like I
always did, I'm going to put this in the comments
section of today's show and so that you can refer
back to it. And so the only I guess, Renkle,

(01:39:18):
is that rumble doesn't let us put like a hyperlink
to where you could just go in there and click
on it and go to the website. But simple enough,
just you know, run your cursor over it, highlight it, copy,
and then paste it into a new browser window and

(01:39:39):
there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
Simple, simple, sounds good. I haven't been able to find
that jelly, but I do have the steam syrup, and
that's great.

Speaker 5 (01:39:51):
He didn't. Did you look on Amazon?

Speaker 7 (01:39:53):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
I didn't. I looked into stores. I thought I would
be there, but I never could find it, and I
never even thought about checking Amazon. But I will now.
So Bill, how about you? Can you make that snow?

Speaker 5 (01:40:13):
Oh? Come on now?

Speaker 2 (01:40:16):
Well, every time she says we can do it, I
know we can't, so I don't even worry about it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:22):
Yeah, exactly exactly. It sounds good though.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
It sounds good, Yeah, especially if she's making a forest.

Speaker 4 (01:40:32):
Exactly right.

Speaker 2 (01:40:35):
So it's I love that. Uh Stein's makes the syrup,
and these is the jelly, kind of spicy susy.

Speaker 5 (01:40:46):
Yeah, it's got jalapeno in it. And I'm putting a
link in uh the show comments good, let.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
Me see if it shows up on my screen. See,
I got a mixer. The phone, two computers all going
at once, and then and our producers probably got a
whole bunch more than that going on in the background.
It is location. Did you already put it in there, susy, Yeah,

(01:41:20):
I did. Let me refresh my screen, maybe it'll show up.
I noticed it doesn't do that. Yeah, there it is.

Speaker 5 (01:41:29):
Yeah, on this long link, I don't see the Normally,
if you just take the link from your search bar,
it's longer. If you use their share link is shorter.
And but I don't see there. There's sure.

Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
Well it's funny. I I couldn't even get it to
come up. But once you told me it was there
and I refreshed the screen, it showed up. So cool.
So Bill any anything on her thumb print, easy, spicy
jelly thing at all.

Speaker 4 (01:42:05):
But I really love it, really love it when you
guys talk my tech because I have no idea what
the hell you're talking about. It's great.

Speaker 2 (01:42:13):
I think you know a lot more than you let on.
I think you a lot more techie than you want
to admit. The things I will deny that, i'll deny that. Well.
The things that I know are from not having a choice,
like when I replaced the mixer. I had to go

(01:42:34):
and there's that word again, research, and I found like
online classes on how to run this mixer because it
had a lot of stuff. Uh that's probably something simple
for Steve, but for me, it was a new world.
And now Sussie's pretty good at all this, especially when

(01:42:59):
her create ative artistic mind needs to do something. She's
really good at figuring all the stuff out on the
tech side. So if you check out our have you
ever looked at our website? Bill?

Speaker 4 (01:43:14):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
Yeah, well she did all that.

Speaker 4 (01:43:18):
Two or three years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:43:20):
Yeah, she did all that. You ought to check it out.
It's updated. Uh, she's made changes along the way.

Speaker 4 (01:43:27):
So you know it said. The problem is is I've
gotten older, Doc, I've forgotten a lot of the bad
words that I really need to use when I use
a computer.

Speaker 2 (01:43:40):
How funny? All right, Well is he anything you want
to cover?

Speaker 5 (01:43:50):
Well, no, not really. I was looking. Uh I went
ahead one to the Steam's website and uh, you know
it's more money. It's fourteen for like a ten ounce.
But if you go to Steam's, I h say this,
it's twenty two dollars out but they say that it

(01:44:13):
includes shipping. But that's eight dollars difference, so yeah, go
to Amazon and get it now. I will say that
Stein's has a new product and it is the same thing,
steam Spicy King Pepper jelly ten ounce jar, but it

(01:44:34):
is called spicy.

Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
Well, I thought yours is already spicy, that you said
maybe this.

Speaker 5 (01:44:41):
One spicy year. It's got JL openions in it. That's so.

Speaker 2 (01:44:47):
Interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:44:51):
And this is a product of Louisiana, so there will
be the pair offfs unless you're going out Louisiana, which
I hope they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:45:02):
You know that, that's kind of funny you brought that up.
I didn't pay much attention to all that in the past.
I didn't understand what they were doing. But it's funny.
People are complaining that we were getting kicked in the
teeth with an eighty percent tariff and we were charging

(01:45:22):
twenty five percent, and people are mad thinking that that's
gonna hurt us to make them balance things out and
be fair. I don't understand what people think. I mean,
they were happy getting screwed regular when you buy a product,
that's terrible. I saw a thing today where they said

(01:45:46):
India charged us the highest tariff of anybody, So not cool.

Speaker 5 (01:45:55):
Now, if if Trump were to say, and of course
I'm against this because I'm all about you know, free
enterprise and limited government interference if any But if just
say that Trump said, okay, everybody who sells a product

(01:46:15):
in the United States has to discount it twenty percent,
they would be mad. If Kamala Harris said okay, we're
going to have price control. Everybody's got to discount everything
they sell twenty percent, there'll be celebrations in the street.

Speaker 2 (01:46:35):
Yeah. Well, right now, it's so silly. You know. I
didn't I didn't like a lot of many administrations. But
I'm not going to spend my time just trying to
post every negative thing I can or talk negative all
the time. Life's too short, and those guys change, and

(01:46:56):
it's all corrupt anyway, if you ask me. But what
I do like about Trump is so far he's trying
to do everything he ever said when he was campaigning.
I haven't seen that in my lifetime. And I cannot
believe all these partisan judges that are playing president, that

(01:47:17):
are trying to stop him every step of the way,
and every one of them is on the political left.
So politics just makes I think most people sick, and
I did hear a positive thing the other day though
that I liked. They said they're going to start investigating
with those people that have gone to Washington who were

(01:47:42):
average middle class and they're making less than two hundred
thousand a year, and all of a sudden, their net
worth a couple years later is twenty million. So we know.
Harry Truman said a long time ago, you show me
a politician who got rich in office, and I'll show

(01:48:05):
you a crook. And I'm sure he was right. So
but I don't have no use. I love it. These
people say, well, I'm moving out of the country if
so and so gets elected. Go how silly. I've traveled
all kinds of places, and as much as I like

(01:48:26):
some of them, none of them ever made me not
want to come home ever again. So if you want
to go somewhere, go, But like that lady I mentioned that,
I used to know. It is non stop negative posting
on social media. I can't imagine letting something eat you

(01:48:47):
up that much. I mean, God, your whole day is
ate up because you don't like Trump. Come on, oh
so sad? All right, Well we're at that time, guys.
We got a few minutes. Billy you got anything up
your sleeve you want to talk about. Yeah, if I

(01:49:10):
can quote quote Susan, Nope, oh god, it's not funny,
says it. Stop that you're encouraging him. You and him
have you and him have become corrupt. But we knew that.

Speaker 4 (01:49:27):
Well, I I got something that's probably going to get
me in trouble, but I'm going to do it anyway.
I was talking one of the things I like to
talk about with old guys. You know, they're they're sitting
around trying to remember when they had teeth, and they
tell stories and they talk about stuff that they did.

(01:49:49):
So I sung to this guy and I said, well,
I said, how old are you? I said, if you
don't mind, he said, well, I'm going to be ninety five.
And I said, well, you don't look like you're much
over eighty five. He said, that's what. That's why I
am eighty five. And he said, I'm planning on being
ninety five. And I said, what what is what? What

(01:50:11):
kind of goals you have for the rest of your time?
And he said, I want to live long enough to
be around when women stop wearing brawls again. All right,

(01:50:31):
that's a good goal.

Speaker 2 (01:50:33):
Yeah, you guys ever hear the comedian Ron White used
to be with Blue Collar Comedy. He was talking the
other day and he said he was was that Oh?
He said some friends of his wanted him to go
to a strip club with them, and he said, I

(01:50:55):
didn't want to go, but and he said, you know
how it is. If you've seen one woman naked, you
want to see more. And he was talking about them
not wearing bras and as they get older, and it
was really funny the guy. The guy was always smoking

(01:51:17):
a scar and drinking scotch. So you know, you can't
find much fault there.

Speaker 4 (01:51:26):
They die young.

Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
Well, I don't know how old he is now, but
I know the last time I saw him his hair
was white. So he's not a spring chicken anymore, not
a spring chicken.

Speaker 4 (01:51:40):
But it's fun to remember when we were.

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
Yes. Well, that's the thing about poor Susy. She keeps
talking about, you know, getting older, and then goes and
jumps off her deck and does all these things that
you could do when you're twenty five and probably not
even know you got hurt. That's a funny thing. As

(01:52:06):
you get older, the body let you know, you know,
like you might open the lid on something and it
hits your finger and you notice it a lot more.
I was talking with Susy one day and we said,
you drop something on the floor and you think to yourself,
how bad do I need that? Oh? You know, do

(01:52:26):
I have to go pick it up or not?

Speaker 5 (01:52:32):
For another reason, it's a test. I want to see
if my husband will pick it up. And he just
walked right past it, and I just roll my eyes
and I'm like, okay, I'm going to continue to leave
it there. Is she going to pick it up? Well,
next thing you know, a cat is playing with it,
So okay whatever. A friend of mine that I grew

(01:52:55):
up with and she lives u in Georgia. My mother
and her mother were best for so we hung out
a lot, and she was older than me, and she
put up something on Facebook and it was a video
and it was from nineteen seventy one and at the

(01:53:18):
high school. She went to the same high school I did,
but she was older, so I wasn't even there when
this happened, but after she posted it, I remembered it.
About two hundred students walked out of the school because
they were protesting, and they were protesting the dress coat,

(01:53:39):
and they wanted to be able to wear her words
were boy jeans. And then the boys wanted their hair,
you know, to be long. There was one guy who
had he was like carrot top. He had the reddest hair,
and the interviewed and it was so funny. His hair

(01:54:03):
was probably it was below his shoulders, and you know,
it looked he looked nineteen seventy one. But the other
thing that they were protesting was bras And when she
was interviewed, I wanted the Dallas news stations. She said,
you know, we just want to be free. I feel

(01:54:24):
like we're bound up. You know, sometimes it would just
be nice to be free. And I had forgotten that
there was that protest back then of the older kids
before I got there about you know not they didn't
want the girls to wear these jeans that were available
at the Army Navy store. They were called red snap okay,

(01:54:47):
and you know, maybe the Navy wore the these, but
they were the girls wanted them because they were super
low rise hip huggers. But the bell By rooms were
so big that you couldn't see your shoes, and so
they were trying to figure out a way to keep

(01:55:07):
the girls from wearing these, and it was hard for
them to say you can't wear jeans when the guys
wear jeans. So what they said was you can't wear
pants with a double seam on the outside.

Speaker 2 (01:55:21):
That was all jeans, so funny. Yeah, we called those dungaries,
those jeans that was very popular in.

Speaker 4 (01:55:31):
So.

Speaker 5 (01:55:32):
We used to be able to get them at the
Army Navy store not too far from from where we lived.
And I mean they were cheap and you could go
in there and get two or three pair, you know,
and you were good for the whole school school year.
But no, we called them red stamp.

Speaker 2 (01:55:49):
Yeah, and we all had long hair when I was
in a lot of us. Did I remember I got
a job in a grocery store and did like that
song kind of tucked up in my hat when I
went to apply for the job. Oh those were some days,
all right, guys, Well, I guess we're at that time.

(01:56:10):
Any last thing.

Speaker 5 (01:56:11):
Susie, Yeah, I almost think we should go back to
those times, you know, when all there was at high
school to worry about was whether or not you could
have long hair and wear jeans or not wear a bra.
And now you know, you would think looking at the

(01:56:34):
people that I graduated with with their long hair and
the way that they dressed, which was really it was
stylish and it was clean, and it was neat and
it was respectful. But you know, we were posts. At
least that class was not me so much. Was pretty
post you know, hippie era. And I don't know, it

(01:56:58):
wasn't such a bad bad time. You know, muscle cars,
no cell phones, no computers, cool clothes, long hair, come
like it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:09):
Yeah, I liked the days that when we grew up
and you didn't have all that stuff. It was I
think we had a better life growing up, more experiences.
All right, Bill, any any one last thing before we
wrap her up.

Speaker 4 (01:57:26):
I think you're absolutely right about experiences. I think we
had a we had a great time. It was. It
was a great time.

Speaker 2 (01:57:34):
Yeah. I can remember as a kid you went outside
winter or summer didn't matter, and you only came in
when you had to. There was no problem telling you
get off the computer or get off your game. Boy.
Everybody went out and we played football and rode motorcycles

(01:57:57):
and bicycles and it was fun. I'm I'm glad I
grew up before all that stuff. All right, Well, ladies
and gentlemen, we cannot thank you enough. We appreciate I
noticed that we had a lot of views on our
Rumble shows live, and we still got an awful lot
of views on the speaker side. It goes out to

(01:58:19):
a lot of places, so it's very cool. We're so
grateful all you people from all the different nations of
the world that have tuned in and listened to us.
We are humbled and honored, and it is our pleasure
to be here and hopefully entertain you and put a

(01:58:39):
smile on your face and give you some food for
thought and share some of the things that we've done
and recipes and ideas. And then, like I said, if
you need anything in the way of the tech stuff
where you're trying to do your own radio show and
you don't know where to start, calls Steve at eight

(01:59:01):
three zero nine nine eight four three eight one. If
you need Susie, Bill or myself, go to docgroupa dot
com and put on their contact us and they'll get
to us and we will get back to you. So
may God bless you all with health and happiness and

(01:59:22):
keep your lives peaceful, free and safe. That's so important,
and it is that time equally important for good Scotch,
good cigars, and good night.

Speaker 4 (01:59:36):
Good night.

Speaker 3 (01:59:37):
All seems the love I've known has always been the
most destructive kind. Yes, that's why now I feel so
open before my time, Yes today, When I was young.

Speaker 4 (02:00:01):
The taste of life was sweeper, has.

Speaker 2 (02:00:04):
Rain upon my tongue.

Speaker 3 (02:00:06):
I teased at length, as if it were a foolish game,
the way the evening breeze may tease a candle flame.
A thousand dreams I dreamed, the splendid things I planned.
I always built to last on weekend, shifting sand.

Speaker 2 (02:00:28):
I lived by night.

Speaker 3 (02:00:30):
And shunned the naked light of day. And only now
I see how the years ran away yesterday when I
was young, And so many

Speaker 10 (02:00:45):
For me songs and we're waiting to be sung, so
many pleasures,

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